



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:37:13 WST

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From:         Andrash Bodonyi <attila@EE.UWA.EDU.AU>

Subject:      Re: I'M OUTAHERE..**REFLECTIONS**



I am a "newby", but have experience in other groups. Let me make a suggestion

which based on the practice of some other similar mailing lists.



- If anyone needs answer to a QUESTION, or needs INFO about something, I

  think, still the best to post it to the mailing list.



- HOwever, the ANSWERS should go directly back to the POSTER's email address,

  and NOT to the mailing list.



- At the end the poster (who asked the question, or info) would post a

  SUMMARY back to the MAILING LIST, if appropriate.



- This summary could be ARCHIVED by the members "privately", or can be

  a basis of a FAQ, or if someone has some diskspace on an FTP server, it

  can be archived there (if it's worth, of course)



Also, I suggest to put down certain guidelines about using the mailing list.

This guide could be included in the info that one receives at signing up to

the list.



Just to think about it...



Andrash Bodonyi

attila@ee.uwa.edu.au



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 07:17:07 EDT

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From:         Judy <JBAYLISS@PSUHMC.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: Mosquuito plants

In-Reply-To:  Message of Wed,

              31 Aug 1994 20:28:47 -0500 from <ksoftley@NS.CCSN.EDU>



We have them along the cliff at our weekend place, where we sit in front

of a campfire just about every nite we're there.  I have them spaced about

4 ft. apart (9 of them).  Three weeks ago there were maybe a dozen of us

there, and the only ones complaining about the mosquitoes were those who

*always* get chewed up by them.  Everyone joked about two of the people

there being our 'mosquito control' because mosquitoes just love those

two, but it was the first time I'd ever sat out for 3 nites and didn't

have a single bite.  I didn't use any repellant, either did my husband,

we both sat within a couple of feet of the plants.  I'd have to say

they do work, but for those people with the particularly enticing

blood chemistry, nothing seems to work except the potent repellants.



Judy



On Wed, 31 Aug 1994 20:28:47 -0500 Kay Softley said:

>I would also like imformation on these plants.  Do they seem to help

>control insects?

>

>Kay

>    Mosquuito plants

>R92



JUDY



JBAYLISS@PSUHMC

JBAYLISS@PSUHMC.HMC.PSU.EDU

NHFK34A@PRODIGY.COM



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:20:07 -0600

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From:         Toni Hoberecht <thober@TURED.PA.UTULSA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Fo Ti (Michael Moore's version)

In-Reply-To:  <9409011021.AA07580@TUred.pa.utulsa.edu> from "Michael Moore" at

              Aug 31, 94 10:42:34 pm



Wow! Michael, I can't reply to you directly since your email

address wasn't evident, but your post on Fo Ti was riveting.

Please...send more of the same!



Toni Hoberecht

thober@tured.pa.utulsa.edu

Tulsa, OK



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:11:43 -0400

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From:         "Carl Strohmenger (HSC)" <cstrohme@COM1.MED.USF.EDU>

Subject:      Epstein-Barr

In-Reply-To:  <199409011358.JAA14300@com1.med.usf.edu>



Can anyone on the list help with an herbal treatment for Epstein-Barr?

Recently, I learned that two of my friends have been diagnosed with this

disease. They do not know each other, so I don't think we are dealing

with a little cell of the disease, just with 2 isolated cases.

They both are feeling very run-down, with no energy to do anything. Their

doctors cannot tell them how long, or if, a cure will result.

Any suggestions?

Another friend has Crohn's (spelling?) disease. She would appreciate any

advice as well.

Thanks.

 -Carl Strohmenger

cstrohme@com1.med.usf.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:42:16 -0400

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From:         NYS Equalization and Assessment <nyealib1@TRANSIT.NYSER.NET>

Subject:      Re: Fo Ti

In-Reply-To:  <9409010444.AA02898@transit.nyser.net>



Michael:

I'm delighted to hear that rumors of your death were greatly exaggerated.

Are some of these responses of yours the basis for a new book "The truth of

herbs: revealed" perhaps? If so, I'll buy it.

In the last slow days of summer, with our blessed politicians  lazing away

at Saratoga, I've had time to play with one of mainsteam medicine (JAMA

crowd) myth of the decade.  Anyone want to try regulation of inflammatory

fibrotic diseases (cancer, arthritis, and such) through autocrine secretion?

The basic concept is that the processes of inflammation, tissue repair,

and carcinogenesis involve related cellular elements and mechanisms.

Peptide growth factors to be specific.   I think this can be related to

herbals, ESSAIC got me started on this. The counterindication to use

sheep sorrel (uric acid?) in patients with arthritis set me to wondering

about the connection between cancer and arthritis I've noticed.  When I

see the two together, I've been very uneasy about the use of immune

stimulants, even after radiation, because I fear they will stimulate the

deviant process that initiated the pathology to begin with. There's a

proposal that failure of suppresor activity in T lymphocites may

contribute to the pathogenesis of  rheumatoid arthritis (Goto M et al.

Selective loss of suppressor T cells in rheumatoid arthritis patients. J

rheumatology 1986;13:853-7).



Not that I actually recommend any treatments to people myself, but I have

a friend...



Anyway, with everyone rushing to use the proposed immune stimulants

such as rishi (dare I say it) mushrooms, echinaciea, and such are they

stimulating or suppressing their disease?



Patricia Michel

Albany, NY

nyealib1@transit.nyser.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:50:47 +0300

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From:         Ellee Margileth <emargile@SOLAR.RTD.UTK.EDU>

Subject:      Slugs, Citronella, SAD, cheese, etc.



If these subjects are "dead", I apologize - I'm on the digest version.

Also, anybody who is not interested, hit your delete button now.  It is an

option we all have.



Subject: Re: Slugs in the herb garden



Renee, Slug control has been an ongoing topic on GARDENS

(gardens@ukcc.uky.edu).  There are several methods including the beer &

pouring salt on them (yuck).  It might be a good idea to join by sending a

message to listserv@ukcc.uky.edu and doing a database search or asking - it

is a very good, very friendly, very open list.  If you do use the tobacco

spray, be very careful as it can be toxic to many plants - especially your

tomatoes, peppers, etc.  That was discussed as recently as last week, I

think.  I'll look for that message & forward it to you.



Re: 'mosquito' plants/citronella plants.



Judy, These are a patented, hybrid type of scented geranium that are tender

perennials.  If you live where there are frosts, you should either dig it

up & bring it in or take cuttings.... or both just to be sure you have some

next year.  For what it is worth, I read somewhere that lemon thyme

actually contains more citronella than these geraniums & that they are

somewhat overrated for mosquito control.



Re: Cheese Recipes



Rhonda,  I for one would like your cheese recipe.  With cold weather

approaching I am running out of ideas for using up some of my culinary

herbs.  Some of the best vegetable dishes I've made this summer have come

from recipes off of the GARDENS list.  Some of the best gifts I have given

were from suggestions from this list last December.



Re: SAD



Erica,  There was a very interesting show that included this on Discovery

Tuesday night about the body & time. However, other than the light therapy

I did not hear any other suggestions besides including therapy (I missed

the first part).  They did say that 1 in 5 people are affected by SADS to

some degree and 1 in 4 of those are in need of the light therapy.  It was a

very interesting show.  Also, it is now a recognized form of clinical

depression.  Best of luck to you - I dread November through February &

Tennessee has very dreary, wet, extremely depressing winters.  (A friend of

mine has been helped by the lights quite a bit.)  I would also follow some

of the other suggestions for combating depression - a good diet, exercise,

etc.



ellee

emargile@solar.rtd.utk.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 19:03:26 -0400

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From:         Jane Segelken <jsegelke@CCE.CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      orris root



Can someone tell us how to take care of the orris root to dry it so it can

be used as a fixative in potpouri? We've read it has to dry for two years

and that the root has to be two or three years old before it is used . . .

but we need more details! Thanks!

Jane and Myra



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:32:39 GMT

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From:         Resinfo <Resinfo@RESINFO.DEMON.CO.UK>

Subject:      Re: I'M OUTAHERE..**REFLECTIONS**



Welcome to the Herb List Andrash Bodonyi:-)



One of the first things I was taught when joining Internet or *any* list

was to observe the general form/netequette before partaking. No point in

expounding further on these aspects, however suffice to say/write, old

timers (long term members of the list!) who happen to be in an ongoing

discussion can get pretty peeved if a thread is broken by a request for

recounting what had already taken place!



If one is new to a list, it surely is important to eaves drop first, that

can take a good week or so, and then [treading carefully:-)] having gauged

what is what, email one of the parties with caution! You are probably far

more likely to get a fair response! Would you stop in a street where a

heated discussion was going on and start questioning the various parties

concerned?



As you will have noticed *new* topics have been invited...besides there

are lots of other mushrooms one could talk about, strange that the others

have not been aired/discussed much...maybe it is a matter of what the

                                           o^o

others represent....have a happy cyberglide |

                                           <o>

Over to the herb list for further comments?



mr t.a.t.



--

Resinfo



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:11:21 EDT

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From:         Susan Hollick <HOLLICK@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>

Subject:      Essential Oils - Chemistry



Hello Kevin,



Regarding your request on information on the structure of essential oils.

I have some resources for you

1.  The Pacific Institute of Aromatherapy offers an international correspondenc

e course on Aromatherapy it is geared more to the chemistry end and describes

all you need to know about the structure and energy of essential oils.  The

materials for the course are available from The Pacific Institute of Aromathera

py P.O. Box 6723  San Rafael, California, USA 94903 T# (415) 479-9121.  I took

the course when Dr. Schnaubelt came to Toronto.  It is available in a seminar

format or by correspondence.  Books that are available on this topic are Ernest

 Guenther - The Essential Oils: Individual Essential Oils of the Plant Families

it is 6 volumes; M. Sainsbury - Aromatic Chemistry by Oxford University Press,

New York, Jean Valnet - The Practice of Aromatherapy by C.W. Daniel in the U.K.



On the internet there is a discussion group called Aroma-Trials Discussion List



To join send an e-mail message to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk with the message

sub aroma-trails Kevin Parker.



I wrote a reference guide on the Aromatherapy field called "The Aromatherapy

Guide"  - it covers training, resource materials, suppliers, associations,

trade magazines, etc.



I hope the information is helpful.



Susan (Hollick@admin.humberc.on.ca)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:07:11 -0400

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From:         "P. Divirgilio" <virgilio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Re: Epstein-Barr

In-Reply-To:  <94Sep1.154224edt.8818@ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca> from "Carl

              Strohmenger" at Sep 1, 94 10:11:43 am



>

> Can anyone on the list help with an herbal treatment for Epstein-Barr?

> Any suggestions?



 You can try two Chinese products for energy. Both are Ginseng based

 and one at least is used by the Chinese Olympic teams (so they say).

 One is Ching Chun Bao which comes in tablets and liquid (used by the

 Olympic team) and the other is Renshenfengwangjiang which is Queen

 Bee's Jelly or Royal Jelly with Ginseng. The second can be taken

 several times a day whenever you need a little energy (its sweet and

 goes well in tea).



> Another friend has Crohn's (spelling?) disease. She would appreciate any

> advice as well.



> Thanks.



 These are unfortunately not recommendations based upon personal

 usage. I have an extensive list of tonics etc based upon use with

 geriatic patients.



>  -Carl Strohmenger

> cstrohme@com1.med.usf.edu

--



Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio,  University of Toronto  virgilio@epas.utoronto.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 20:06:49 PST

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From:         "FRED W. BACH" <music@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA>

Subject:      Re: Epstein-Barr



>From:  MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET"  1-SEP-1994 12:41:14.65

>To:    MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET"

>CC:

>Subj:  Epstein-Barr

>

>From: "Carl Strohmenger (HSC)" <cstrohme@COM1.MED.USF.EDU>



>Can anyone on the list help with an herbal treatment for Epstein-Barr?

>Recently, I learned that two of my friends have been diagnosed with this

>disease. They do not know each other, so I don't think we are dealing

>with a little cell of the disease, just with 2 isolated cases.

>They both are feeling very run-down, with no energy to do anything. Their

>doctors cannot tell them how long, or if, a cure will result.

>Any suggestions?

>Another friend has Crohn's (spelling?) disease. She would appreciate any

>advice as well.

>Thanks.

> -Carl Strohmenger

>cstrohme@com1.med.usf.edu



   Someone else said that the Doctors were of little help.  They were right.

 For this, the Western Medical Priesthood is of little help as of yet. But if

 they listen, they might learn something. (please listen).



  I presume your friends' symptoms are similar to mononucleosis.  I had it

 really really bad!  For me, Vitamin A supplements (25,000 uints in a big

 SQUIBB multi-vitamin taken with food twice a day) were really really helpful.

 Also (but NOT at the same time) freshly squeezed lemon juice with all the

 pulp but no seeds in 1 glass of COLD Canada Dry Ginger Ale is amazingly

 helpful (the coldness and the Ginger Ale hide the sour taste and the ginger

 is good for a sore throat.  Quest Vitamins (Vancouver, B.C.) herbal formula

 Q21 (contents by request) is very helpful, IMHO, for viral infections where

 you get that chilled feeling.   Back in the years when I had mono and later

 when I had a relapse of what now can only be called EB syndrome (chills,

 fever, weakness, allergies, sleep problems, mouth sores, ear/nose/throat

 symptoms, headaches, aches&pains, fatigue and depression) the Q21 formula was

 not available.   Too bad for me.  I had to learn the hard way.



   It is commonly said that you can't get mono twice.  Yet my old doctor

 said he'd never seen any disease that you couldn't get twice.  The typical

 recovery time is 1 month off work/school, half days for 2 or three months.

 They say it takes 2 years to recover fully.  I think it is more like 7 years.

 YOU MUST NOT GET CHILLED, DEHYDRATED, OR FATIQUED, or else you will get a

 relapse.  Rest and fluids and vitamins are VERY important.  Shift work is

 a killer here, IMHO.



  I found that whole-body roll-up dry saunas were very very helpul.  This is

 an old amazing technique which can be dangerous if not properly done.  I am

 told by an old experienced physiotherapist that this treatment is *so good*

 that it is even effective for relief from syphilis symptoms.  Anyone know

 about this?  I would not know anything about syphilis, but the roll-up

 treatments were extremely and immediately effective for me for mono.



   Now I take daily Garlic, and Vitamin A, D, & E supplements with breakfast.

 I would recommend this to others.  I have had no relapses in about 15 years.



   My experience is a long story, but I have condensed my findings here.

 I sincerely hope it will help others.



  Regards,



 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca

 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 327/333

 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074

 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3

  Damien says " If you don't STAND for SOMETHING, you'll FALL for ANYTHING "

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.

 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:17:46 -0400

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From:         "P. Divirgilio" <virgilio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Re: Essential oil biochemistry.

In-Reply-To:  <94Aug31.192420edt.9627@ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca> from "Kevin Parker"

              at Aug 31, 94 12:00:22 pm



>

> > On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Kevin Parker wrote:

> >

> > > Greetings all,

> > >

> > > I would be grateful if someone could explain to me the biochemistry

> > > of essential oils - i.e. how, and why, they work.

> >

> > ** I have a suggestion for you -- Try going to the library before you post

> > requests that would be answered perhaps by a volume or two.

> > Rob

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===---

>  Fair point,  Rob - any pointers ?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Kev.

  In response to your request for bibliography, try looking at

  competitive binding and then look up genetic engineering to see how

  the different molecules are artificially bound in making synthetic

  genes. In the question of competitive binding, focus on cerebral

  chemistry where the binding is often a question of exactly one or

  two atoms difference. In order to unerstand the relationship between

  the plant essence and human serum chemistry look up the work by

  Andrew Hiatt and Julian Ma (Scripps Insitute La Jolla and Guy's

  Hospital, London). You might also want to check molecular farming in

  your catalogue particularly the work of McGregor, but it seems that

  you should know all of this! I could explain how we make synthetic

  antibodies and cultured RNA, but I think that we would be well

  astray of the list's purpose. I have a new list about to appear

  related to high tech and complementary medicine (phytomedicine

  included) but it will probably be fairly technical and no

  competition for herb. -- Paul

>

> ==========================================================

> KMP%university.offices@OX.AC.UK

> ==========================================================

>

--



Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio,  University of Toronto  virgilio@epas.utoronto.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 07:22:01 -0700

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From:         Heather J Hurlbert <hjh@PINE.CSE.NAU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 31 Aug 1994 to 1 Sep 1994

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              Digest - 31 Aug 1994 to 1 Sep 1994" (Sep  2, 10:41am)



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 1994 20:43:10 -0500

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From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Aralia

In-Reply-To:  <9408311610.AA16093@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> from "Carl Strohmenger" at

              Aug 31, 94 10:16:34 am



>

> Devil's Walking Stick, Aralia spinosa, is a member of the Ginseng Family

> that occurs in central Florida where I live. My Peterson's Field Guide

> warns that this species is poisonous, but that it has been used in folk

> medicine. The other 3 species in this genus: Hairy Sarsaparilla ( A.

> hispida), Wild Sarsaparilla ( A. nudicaulis), and Spikenard ( A.

> racemosa) don't occur in my area and are not listed as poisonous in the

> field guide.

> Can anyone give me more information about these species, especially A.

> Spinosa, the one found in my area?

>



 

--

Carl - I have a little experience with Devil's Walking Stick. It has a

fairly large range in the Eastern U.S. Fact is, it's toxic, edible, and

medicinal, depending on what part of the plant and what time of the year.

Interesting, huh?



1. Toxic.  The berries are toxic if eaten in quantity. The roots can

cause a dermatitis if handled too much.



2. Edible. Eat the young shoot in early spring. It's one of my favorite

plants because it's so unusual-looking. In the autumn, the whole green

top falls away, leaving only the devil's walking-stick part of the plant,

looking dead and ominous. In the spring, it puts up about 12 inches of

new growth. While it's still tender, it's edible, and not too bad, either

(raw or cooked).



3. Medicinal. This is the most complicated part of all.  In the Smoky

Mtns, a botany professor showed me why another name for the plant is

Toothache Tree. Mountain folk would cut a small piece of twig and place

it in their mouths next to whatever spot ailed 'em. It deadens the pain.

Really -- it has a strong numbing effect. A tincture can be made of the

berries for the same thing - it also works for muscle pain and arthritis.

In the S.C. low country, a "tea" was made of the root and drunk for

arthritis, rheumatism and backache. It was also drunk by men for potency.

The root was also cooked with blackroot (Pterocaulon pycnostachyum) and

red cedar twigs and the decoction taken for colds and asthma. Root boiled

with blackroot and young pine root and decoction taken effective for

relieving edema.



Sources: Peterson Guide to Medicinal Plants - Foster & Duke

        Folk Remedies of the Low Country - Julia F. Morton E.A. Seamann

Publishing CO., Miami. 1974. (Carl - Julia Morton is an esteemed economic

botanist out of the U of Miami. She may be retired by now, but it would

be worth checking out. She is/was the DIrector of the Morton COllectanea

there. She has written a slew of books on the wild plants of FLorida.)



 



Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 15:21:41 -0400

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From:         "P. Divirgilio" <virgilio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Re: Aralia

In-Reply-To:  <94Sep2.142526edt.8667@ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca> from "Deborah

              Duchon" at Sep 1, 94 09:43:10 pm



The discussion of Devil's Walking Stick is interesting. Although the

plant is not supposed to grow as far north as Toronto, we have two

huge ones on our front lawn. The greenish white flowers are just now

giving way to the purple berries. We also have a Tulip Tree which I

understand was used in First Nations' medicine in the Eastern States

like Pennsylvania. Does anyone know anything about the Tulip Tree? For

those who do not the tree, ours is now about 50-60 ft high and I

believe that it is a kind of popular which bares huge blossom of

greenish yellow and orange that look more like a lotus than a tulip. I

understand that the large centre stamen which looks like an artichoke

has medicinal qualities as well as the bark. Could someone give me

some more details about its uses?



 

--



Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio,  University of Toronto  virgilio@epas.utoronto.ca



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space.  Whenever you suggest that someone set their attributes a

certain way, bear in mind that some e-mail systems do not support all

the attributes.  Mine, for instance, doesn't recognize REPRO, and I

can't communicate at all with systems running Majordomo software.  In

the whole vast Internet there may be a handful of machines identical

to yours but there are zillions more that are different in arcane and

wonderful ways.  Let's all be tolerant out there:  we have to share

this world.

                                             Jenny



/s=J.WalkerLiddell/ou1=s26l07a@mhs-fsbo.attmail.com

"I live for my dreams, and a pocketful of gold."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 16:42:00 -1200

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Curtis Sandberg <Avenger@UWYO.EDU>

Subject:      Harvesting Herbs (HH)



I just started growing herbs in the house (just sweet basil, basil, and

spearmint so far).  They are all growing a lot.  Should I harvest the herbs

all the time or let them grow until I need them?  All of the herbs are now

flowering.  Is now the time to harvest?



BTW - What is the difference between sweet basil and basil?  The leaves on

the sweet basil are quite a bit larger than the leaves on the basil.



Curtis

AVENGER@UWYO.EDU



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 19:42:51 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Susan Hollick <HOLLICK@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>

Subject:      The Aromatherapy Guide



Hi Kev,



The Aromatherapy Guide is available from:



Vencom Publishing Inc.

24 Hanover Road, Suite 2205

Brampton, Ontario  Canada L6S 5K8

Tel and Fax (905) 799-2108



Price including shipping is $14.95 Canadian or $12.45 US funds

ISBN # 0969823401 -  59 pages  - 8.5 x 11 - Spiralbound

Listings and information include:  Canada, United States and United Kingdom



Two other reference sources I would highly recommend for persons interested in

the field of Aromatherapy are the following:



The Aromatic "Thymes"

75 Lakeview Parkway

Barrington, IL 60010 USA

Tel (708) 526-3318



Publisher - Pam Parsons, M.S.

The Midwestern Journal of Aromatherapy - published quarterly, consists of

practical tips from readers, indepth Essential Oil research, Aromatherapy

in Business, Contributions from top Aromatherapists, new products &

companies, etc.

Price $25.00 US a year



Aromatherapy, A Personal Journey Through Your Senses by Patricia Betty

ISBN 0964120542



Pat Betty is a practicing aromatherapist since 1977, opened the first

aromatherapy specialty business in New York City in 1980.  She is an

internationally recognized speaker, author and consultant in the United

States, Japan, Latin America and Canada.



Her book is available from:

E-Scentially Yours, The Aromatherapy Place

24 East 38th Street,  Suite 4B

New York, New York 10016 USA

Tel: (212) 545-0229



Aromatherapy is the use of highly fragrant concentrated extracts of plants

- essential oils - to cause subtle, or often dramatic changes within an

individual at all levels of his or her being.     By inhaling these essences

or massaging them into the skin, opportunities for enjoyment and healing

can occur physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.

Quoted from The Aromatic "Thymes" - Spring 1994.



   Sincerely,

   Susan (hollick@admin.humberc.on.ca)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:54:36 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: I'M OUTAHERE..**REFLECTIONS**

In-Reply-To:  <199409021226.AA11891@mail.crl.com>



> (Sorry, if it is a repost. I had doubt whether my mail reached the list



** This is the second time around...



> I wouldn't like any subject excluded.



** Well, I'm not too sure everyone agrees with you. "every" subject

doesn't  necessarily belong here.



Rob



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 23:04:06 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "P. Divirgilio" <virgilio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Re: Forwarded: Off-topic post about off-topic posts

In-Reply-To:  <94Sep2.181613edt.8707@ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca> from "Jenny Walker-

              Liddell" at Sep 2, 94 04:21:00 pm



I didn't understand your message. If I were sensitive, I think that I

would have been offended. Ours is a listserv compatible machine which

seems to communicate with all systems. I do recognize the address as

one with which we had problems before. I thought that I was continuing

the aralia, devil's walking stick line in my message. Your message

only puzzled me. Since we run 3 other lists and the site runs

thirty-eight or more, I don't think we're incompatible. I notice that

the Humber College post had no compatibility problem. I'll have to ask

them what system they are running. I red your message twice and am

hard pressed to figure out what your comments about tolerance mean. We

archived it anyway: someone will figure out what it means in a few

days. 3 readings is my limit. Is it the aralias or the tulip trees

which are intolerant? -- Paul.

--



Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio,  University of Toronto  virgilio@epas.utoronto.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 1994 21:21:07 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Epstein-Barr

In-Reply-To:  <199409021344.AA18610@mail.crl.com>



On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, P. Divirgilio wrote:



>  Olympic team) and the other is Renshenfengwangjiang which is Queen

>  Bee's Jelly or Royal Jelly with Ginseng. The second can be taken

>  several times a day whenever you need a little energy (its sweet and

>  goes well in tea).



** And that's about all it's good for is flavoring your tea. If you want

the effects of Royal Jelly then find a source for it <not in capsules but

raw> and find some Ginseng root. Capsules of either are frequently

adulterated with all sorts of low grade 'chaff' Y&S out of Sheridan, Illinois

produce raw Royal Jelly. Ginseng is available through Richter's at $110-

a kilo. <You can buy less>. Don't go out and purchase the 'name' of an herb

just because the package has the 'name' on it doesn't mean a thing. I have

produced my own Royal Jelly for about 12 years and have tried every type

of product to find it laughable. The same thing with the commercial Ginseng

capsules. The ad shows two elderly people jogging in the countryside. So, go

paste that picture on your refridgerator because it may do you more good

than the capsules. Putting something in capsules is a great ploy to use

all the inferior stuff they can pillage from the market. And that stuff

in the vials that is great to flavor tea with? It has more alcohol than

Royal Jelly.



----------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===---



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 3 Sep 1994 20:02:35 -0700

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 4 Sep 1994 10:43:17 -0500

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      Tulip tree

In-Reply-To:  <9409022203.AA06782@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> from "P. Divirgilio" at Sep

              2, 94 03:21:41 pm



Does anyone know anything about the Tulip Tree? For

> those who do not the tree, ours is now about 50-60 ft high and I

> believe that it is a kind of popular which bares huge blossom of

> greenish yellow and orange that look more like a lotus than a tulip. I

> understand that the large centre stamen which looks like an artichoke

> has medicinal qualities as well as the bark. Could someone give me

> some more details about its uses?> --

>

> Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio,  University of Toronto  virgilio@epas.utoronto.ca



--

Tuliptree, also known as canoewood and yellow poplar, is actually a

member of the Magnolia Family. Latin name is Liriodendron tulipfera.

It is the tallest hardwood in N. America, and can reach 200 feet in the

southern Appalachians. Due to its size and the qualities of its wood, it

was often used by Indians (and later, settlers) for making hollowed-out

canoes. Daniel Boone and his family set down the Ohio River in a 60-foot

tuliptree canoe.(Red Oaks and Black Birches by Rebecca Rupp).



I don't know anything about using the stamen as a medicine, but bark tea

was used for indigestions, dysentery, rheumatism, fevers, pinworms and in

cough syrup. Externally, as a wash on fractured limbs, wounds, boils,

snakebites.  Green bark was chewed as aphrodisiac, stimulant. Ointment

from buds used for burns, inflammation. Crushed leaves poulticed for

headache. (from Peterson Field Guide of Medicinal Plants by Foster &

Duke.)



Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:07:26 -0500

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Fran E. Rich" <frich@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Harvesting Herbs (HH)

In-Reply-To:  <199409022145.QAA15269@Paula-Formby.tenet.edu>



Curtis,



The basil and any other annuals you have should be harvested continually.

Pinch off all flowers and buds to prevent them from completing their

reproducting cycle and to make them bushier. Once they flower and produce

seeds their lives are over!



Mints can be harvested as needed.



Fran



On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Curtis Sandberg wrote:



> I just started growing herbs in the house (just sweet basil, basil, and

> spearmint so far).  They are all growing a lot.  Should I harvest the herbs

> all the time or let them grow until I need them?  All of the herbs are now

> flowering.  Is now the time to harvest?

>

> BTW - What is the difference between sweet basil and basil?  The leaves on

> the sweet basil are quite a bit larger than the leaves on the basil.

>

> Curtis

> AVENGER@UWYO.EDU

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:41:52 +0000

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Jenny Walker-Liddell

              </S=J.WALKERLIDDELL/OU1=S26L07A@MHS-FSBO.ATTMAIL.COM>

Subject:      Trying to clear up the confusion



My post was not about aralia, tulip trees (I've always found them

very tolerant) or the machine this list is run from.  It was also not

aimed at Paul!  It's my contribution to the discussion "what topics

do and don't belong on such-and-such list."  I've seen such

discussions crop up on several mailing lists, and someone always ends

up saying "If you don't like this topic that's what the delete key is

for."  This argument CAN be used to duck individual responsibility

for keeping one's posts in the ballpark of the list topic.  My

remarks about tolerance boil down to "Be neither insulting nor

hypersensitive."  Sorry for the confusion.

                                             Jenny



/s=J.WalkerLiddell/ou1=s26l07a@mhs-fsbo.attmail.com

"I live for my dreams, and a pocketful of gold."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 6 Sep 1994 23:02:10 BST

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Christopher Hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      tulip trees



Paul,

taken from Charlotte Erickson Brown, medicinal and other

uses of North American plants, pub Dover NY 1979......



Tulip tree (Liriodendron tulipfera fam. magnoliaceae)

    not a poplar.



Bark preferably the root bark.

A bitter tonic and febrifuge, likened to Quinine and

Gentian, used for chills, fevers, intermitant fevers,

worms, rheumatism, weak digestion and to restore general

health.

Also a nerve tonic used for hysteria and one reference

as a heart stimulant.

I don't suppose you will wish to cut your tree down,

...unless you want to make a canoe, the wood is very

tough and flexible and hence ideal for that purpose.



Failing that you could try the leaves as a poultice for

headaches or in an ointment for inflammatory skin

conditions. The flower buds are used for constipation.



My source is a book worth buying. It is endlessly

fascinating being a complete historical survey of herbal

writings. It only covers the eastern part of North

America.



P.S. for Rhonda, well having found a cure for your

headache I would like your recipe for herb cheese.



Christopher@gn.apc.org   London England.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 1994 02:52:53 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Equipment



HELP!!!



Can anyone help me locate a decent lab/chemistry equipment supplier?



After a recent household breakup I find myself resorting to gold coffee

filters, disposable coffee filters, pop bottles, etc for making

tinctures.  Its bad enough I have to drive out of state to buy ethenol,

sitting for 4-6 hrs pouring small drizzles of eth is just plain inhuman.



Thanx in advance.



 

--

.............................................................................

     aj682@leo.nmc.edu                Traverse City FreePort@

      Brian K. Koster                 Northwestern Michigan College

    >"BOOKS! I'd rather lend you my dog, he can find his way home."<



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:52:00 EST

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "DRCV06::GRAHAM" <GRAHAM%DRCV06.decnet@VAX3.DRC.COM>

Subject:      Re: Equipment.



I have found Carolina Biological Supply to be an excellent source of all

manner of lab equipment.  They won't sell you chemicals, don't even bother,

but if you act like any sort of a business, I do yeast research, they will

send you a very nice catalog and sell you all the lab stuff you can handle,

and their prices aren't outrageous, either.



They are listed in 800 directory, but I don't have their information here

at work.



Dan Graham



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:15:42 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "M. Umehara" <umehara@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

Subject:      Re: Equipment.



I have an old catalog for Carolina Biological Supply:

Burlington, North Carolina 800-334-5551

Gladstone, Oregon 800-547-1733



Mike U.

Internet: umehara@nadc.nadc.navy.mil



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:53:55 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Conrad Richter <71550.3411@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Herbletter 94/09/07 15:30 GMT



---------------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <71550.3411@compuserve.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue ID: 94/09/07 15:30 GMT



Content

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Drug Derived from Herb Used to Rob or Rape Victims

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

   TORONTO, Sept 7, Globe and Mail -- Thousands of people in Colombia have

been robbed or raped in the past two decades after being slipped the drug

scopalamine.  Often used as a treatment for motion sickness or Parkinson's

disease, the drug -- known locally as 'burundanga' -- can render a person

"disoriented and powerless to resist the criminal's orders," warns the U.S.

State Department; some people have emptied their entire bank accounts for

crooks.  Burundanga can be blown in a victim's face or offered in chewing

gum.  Victims rarely remember their assailants.  In rural Colombia, a tree

that supplies the drug is grown in front yards, as a warning.

   [The anticholinergic tropane, scopolamine, is also found in the European

herbs belladonna (Atropa belladonna), henbane (Hyoscyamus niger), mandrake

(Mandragora officinarum), scopolia (Scopolia carniolica), and stramonium

(Datura stramonium).  All are members of the potato family, the Solanaceae.

Scopolamine is an ingredient in over-the-counter sleeping pills like

Sominex. The Colombian tree mentioned may be a species of the tree daturas of

genus Brugmansia.  These small trees are closely related to Datura and are

widely used by aborigines from Colombia to Chile as ritualistic hallucinogens.

Another possible candidate is the Solanaceaeous tree, Culera Borrachero

(Methysticodendron amesianum), a Colombian tree with high concentrations of

scopolamine and a history of use in divination, prophecy and witchcraft. -CR]



----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 700 herb plants,

    seeds, and dried herbs.  Available for $2 ($4 outside N America).

    Order by email at 71550.3411@compuserve.com.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 1994 16:45:01 CDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Norbert Hoffmann <hoffmann@STOLAF.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbletter 94/09/07 15:30 GMT



Snip

>   TORONTO, Sept 7, Globe and Mail -- Thousands of people in Colombia have

>been robbed or raped in the past two decades after being slipped the drug

>scopalamine.

snip

>Scopolamine is an ingredient in over-the-counter sleeping pills like

>Sominex.



 

Correction: it used to be an ingredient 15 years ago or so until the

formula was changed - at least in the States. I thought this was very

unfortunate, since it was very effective albeit dangerous.

Is it still used in Canada?



Norbert



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 10 Sep 1994 13:17:39 GMT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         NEI BRITO <nei.brito%sec21@AX.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Pyrrolizidine alkaloids



I'm very interested, for a local Public Health project at

University of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to read comments or recent

references on Pyrrolizidine alkaloids,  VOD (veno-oclusive disease),

and chemical methods to detect or reducing N->O alkaloids.

 I would appreciate it and thank you very much in advance,

Nei Brito

Prof. of Pharmacognosy

Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro

POBOX 68048

21.944 - 000 Rio, RJ, Brazil



sec21!nbrito@ibase.org.br



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 00:05:42 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Conrad Richter (by way of eagle@netcom.com Eagle)"

              <71550.3411@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Herbletter 94/09/07 15:30 GMT



---------------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <71550.3411@compuserve.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue ID: 94/09/07 15:30 GMT



Content

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Drug Derived from Herb Used to Rob or Rape Victims

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

   TORONTO, Sept 7, Globe and Mail -- Thousands of people in Colombia have

been robbed or raped in the past two decades after being slipped the drug

scopalamine.  Often used as a treatment for motion sickness or Parkinson's

disease, the drug -- known locally as 'burundanga' -- can render a person

"disoriented and powerless to resist the criminal's orders," warns the U.S.

State Department; some people have emptied their entire bank accounts for

crooks.  Burundanga can be blown in a victim's face or offered in chewing

gum.  Victims rarely remember their assailants.  In rural Colombia, a tree

that supplies the drug is grown in front yards, as a warning.

   [The anticholinergic tropane, scopolamine, is also found in the European

herbs belladonna (Atropa belladonna), henbane (Hyoscyamus niger), mandrake

(Mandragora officinarum), scopolia (Scopolia carniolica), and stramonium

(Datura stramonium).  All are members of the potato family, the Solanaceae.

Scopolamine is an ingredient in over-the-counter sleeping pills like

Sominex. The Colombian tree mentioned may be a species of the tree daturas of

genus Brugmansia.  These small trees are closely related to Datura and are

widely used by aborigines from Colombia to Chile as ritualistic hallucinogens.

Another possible candidate is the Solanaceaeous tree, Culera Borrachero

(Methysticodendron amesianum), a Colombian tree with high concentrations of

scopolamine and a history of use in divination, prophecy and witchcraft. -CR]



----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 700 herb plants,

    seeds, and dried herbs.  Available for $2 ($4 outside N America).

    Order by email at 71550.3411@compuserve.com.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------



 

   David Eagle, DOM, LAc   -    Doctor of Oriental Medicine & Acupuncture

         ....................................................

                eagle@netcom.com  or  david@igc.apc.org

         ....................................................

        "Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty."

         ....................................................



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:54:07 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Amy Dean <ADEAN@EMUVM1.BITNET>

Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Subject:      Re: Epstein-Barr

In-Reply-To:  Message of Thu,

              1 Sep 1994 10:11:43 -0400 from <cstrohme@COM1.MED.USF.EDU>



A friend of mine's son and older daughter simultaneously came down with

mononucleosis when they were 16 and 13 respectively.  After recovery

from that, they had a recurrence which was identified as Epstein-Barr

by their pediatrician (apparently the same virus is active in both

cases).  The pediatrician's recommendation was to treat them with

Echinacea (for its immune system boosting and anti-biotic properties)

and garlic (anti-viral) as she knew of no allopathic treatment for it.

The son, now 18, has tested free of the virus.  Although the daughter

(15) still has the virus, her symptoms appear to be under control.



On Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:11:43 -0400 Carl Strohmenger (HSC) said:

>Can anyone on the list help with an herbal treatment for Epstein-Barr?

>Recently, I learned that two of my friends have been diagnosed with this

>disease. They do not know each other, so I don't think we are dealing

>with a little cell of the disease, just with 2 isolated cases.

>They both are feeling very run-down, with no energy to do anything. Their

>doctors cannot tell them how long, or if, a cure will result.

>Any suggestions?

>Another friend has Crohn's (spelling?) disease. She would appreciate any

>advice as well.

>Thanks.

> -Carl Strohmenger

>cstrohme@com1.med.usf.edu

>    Epstein-Barr                                                           R



Amy S. Dean



adean@titan.cc.emory.edu

adean@emuvm1.cc.emory.edu

(404)727-2767



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:55:56 PST

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "FRED W. BACH" <music@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA>

Subject:      Re: Epstein-Barr



>From:  MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET" 12-SEP-1994 10:21:21.41

>To:    MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET"

>CC:

>Subj:  Re: Epstein-Barr

>

>From: Amy Dean <ADEAN@EMUVM1.BITNET>

>

>A friend of mine's son and older daughter simultaneously came down with

>mononucleosis when they were 16 and 13 respectively.  After recovery

>from that, they had a recurrence which was identified as Epstein-Barr

>by their pediatrician (apparently the same virus is active in both

>cases).  The pediatrician's recommendation was to treat them with

>Echinacea (for its immune system boosting and anti-biotic properties)

>and garlic (anti-viral) as she knew of no allopathic treatment for it.

>The son, now 18, has tested free of the virus.  Although the daughter

>(15) still has the virus, her symptoms appear to be under control.

>

>On Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:11:43 -0400 Carl Strohmenger (HSC) said:

>>Can anyone on the list help with an herbal treatment for Epstein-Barr?

>>Recently, I learned that two of my friends have been diagnosed with this

>>disease. They do not know each other, so I don't think we are dealing

>>with a little cell of the disease, just with 2 isolated cases.

>>They both are feeling very run-down, with no energy to do anything. Their

>>doctors cannot tell them how long, or if, a cure will result.

>>Any suggestions?

>>Another friend has Crohn's (spelling?) disease. She would appreciate any

>>advice as well.

>>Thanks.

>> -Carl Strohmenger

>>cstrohme@com1.med.usf.edu

>

>Amy S. Dean

>

>adean@titan.cc.emory.edu

>adean@emuvm1.cc.emory.edu

>(404)727-2767



 

  I'm no doctor, but I had thie *really* bad at the age of 21.  I had a

  recurrence several *years* later.  (First in Edmonton, once in Vancouver).

  They say you can't get mono twice -- but my old doctor who has seen a lot

  says he's never seen ANY disease that you can't get twice!



 

  I'll tell you what helped me a lot.  First there are some rules:



     1.   Don't get tired.   Work/school half days for the first several

          months, or as you can without relapsing.  This time varies

          tremendously between patients from almost nothing to several

          months to most of a year.



     2.   Don't get cold (like all sweaty and then catch a chill in the

          cold air).  In this case, the symptoms of EB can be brought back,

          just as a chill precipitates a flareup of malaria for those with

          that disease.  This is about the WORST thing you could do for EB.



     3.   Don't get dehydrated at all!  Room-temp Water.  Diluted fruit juice.

          Watch out here, because TOO MUCH citric acid will make the mouth

          and throat sore.  I read recently of some research where too much

          orange juice had some interesting side effects.



     4.   Don't *just* lie around.  The lymph fluid in the body has no

          pumping system except for the muscles, and the lymph system is

          the one attacked by EB.  GENTLE EXERCISE! moving all muscles but

          never to the point of pain or exhaustion until you have recovered.

          Without this gentle exercise, you will get muscle cramps, and

          especially in the back.  But then again, you may cramp up anyway.



     5.   Don't allow yourself to get depressed, it's VERY easy to do with

          this disease beacuse it symptomatically resembles CFS (Chronic

          Fatigue Syndrome) and recovery is often so slow in some people.



     6.   Cut way down on Coffee and cut out all white sugar.



 

  These things are all good.  Now what to do positively:



 

      1.   Drink the juice of 1 whole small lemon each day.  You must

           keep all of the pulp and remove all of the seeds.  The lemon

           juice MUST be fresh squeezed.  If it's an hour old, squeeze

           some more.   In order to drink the lemon juice, hide it inside

           a cool glass of Canada Dry Ginger Ale.  It does a good job of

           hiding the sourness, the Ginger is thought to be good for the

           throat, stomach, intestines and immune system, besides relieving

           nausea.  Let the sugar in the Ginger Ale be the only white sugar

           you use.  Incidentally, Canada Dry is the very best Ginger Ale

           in the world, IMHO.  (Roll the lemons on a hard surface BEFORE

           squeezing them.  I like an ordinary glass lemon-squeezer.)



 

      2.   With breakfast, take a good multivitamin pill with plenty of

           Vitamin A in it.  As an alternative, there are fish-oil and

           other capsules.  I feel this is better (quicker) than getting

           it from beta-carotene, which stresses the liver to produce the

           vitamin A anyway.   I know it helped me way more than vegetables!

           Besides, when you have a really sore throat and EB, you can't

           swallow or digest foods as well.   Eat all the green leafy

           vegetables that you're supposed to eat.  Cut down on meat, and

           make any meat that you eat WELL cooked and chewed extremely well.

           The last thing you need is undigested meat protein getting all the

           way to the large intestine.



 

      3.   Sweating really really helps.  I found the dry saunas and the

           steam rooms to be priceless.  But -- do your best to avoid getting

           chilled afterward (lots of time to get dry and gently re-stabilize

           to room temperature).  DON'T DO THE SCANDINAVIAN TRICK OF RUNNING

           OUT FROM THE SAUNA INTO THE SNOW OR COLD WATER.  Cool off gradually

           and avoid any chill.  If you can feel the chill, it's too quick.

           (That snow trick doesn't *make* you healthy, it just *proves*

           you're healthy if you can do it.)



      4.   Along with #3, keep your body clean.  The skin breathes out toxins.



      5.   For exercise, try walking as much as you can without getting

           tired, chilled, or dehydrated.  Nothing strenous for the first

           several months.



      6.   In adults, one aspirin a day can do wonders to that little chilled

           feverish feeling you get (like the chills across the shoulders

           and down the back).



      7.   IF YOU GET SORE THROATS,  antibiotics help some people.  I prefer

           the herbal remedies.  Check out Golden Seal and QUEST VITAMINS

           formula Q21  (info on request).  No, I don't work for them and I

           get NO kickbacks.  This is just one heck of a good formula, IMHO.

           Covering the neck with Vick's Vapo Rub and wrapping it in a warm

           hand towel overnight is really really good for a sore throat that

           comes along with viruses.



 



    Recovery from this disease takes time, and mistakes set you back.

  Take it from a guy who knows this disease first hand, and who has beaten

  it twice.  You may find sore, swollen lymph nodes in the neck and under

  the arms and in the groin area for up to a year afterward.



 

   These are all my opinions and what works for me and my family.  We have

  learned these tricks down through the years and believe in them.  Your

  mileage nay vary (YMMV), as they say....  If you have special problems,

  like diabetes, for instance, your instructions will obviously have to

  be modified to suit your special needs.  I cannot speak for how the EB

  disease affects females during and after puberty, but there *must* be

  some special effect here on the menstrual cycle -- Obviously I have el

  zippo of personal experience in this case (my daughter was too young

  when she had EB).



 

   Hope that helps.  The intensity of this EB disease varies tremendously

  from person to person.  In some cases it is barely noticed as a cold.  In

  others, the kids swear that they are just about to die.  Your throat can

  get sooo sore that you cannot talk, and even swallowing saliva is very

  painful.  They used to prescribe aspirin for this, but they don't any more

  for kids because of Ryes Syndrome (sp?).  I know the suffering.  I was one

  of the latter really bad cases.  My daughter was close to being one of the

  former (just a little worse than a bad cold).  Of course, I was in my 20's

  and my daughter was only 10.  I had EB last about the time she was born.



 

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca

 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 327/333

 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074

 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3

  Damien says " If you don't STAND for SOMETHING, you'll FALL for ANYTHING "

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.

 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 08:46:44 EST

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         CFH200U@SHAKESPEARE.LIB.ODU.EDU

Subject:      Herbs for Liver and Gall Bladder



Dear Herb,



    Yahoo!  I'm so excited to have found this list.  I have been involved

with using herbal medicine for about fifteen years now.  I'm no expert, but

what I lack in knowledge I make up for in enthusiasm.

    Right now I'm trying to purify my liver and gall bladder with a

combination of diet and herbal assistance.  I opened my well-worn paperback

version of John Lust's "The Herb Book" and found rosemary, burdock,

chamomille, and fenugreek to be good hepatic aids...not a tasty combo, mind

you.  Does anyone have any suggestions for herbs that might be more potent

or suited for what I'm trying to do?  Thanks in advance,



Charlie Hillen, Library Assistant            "Never become irritable waiting

Old Dominion University                  for things to get better.  If you'll

cfh200u@oduvm.cc.odu.edu                 be patient, you'll find you can wait

                                         much faster."   --Unknown Author



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:56:50 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Mary F Leunissen <mleuniss@UOGUELPH.CA>

Subject:      Re: Herbs for Liver and Gall Bladder



Please post answers to  this to the list as I am also interested in liver

and kidney cleansing herbs. I have taken many drugs over the years for

migraine headaches, before turning to more natural aids, and I am

concerned about toxic buildup. Thank you.

                Mary L.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 08:21:00 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         CHRIS WIATROWSKI <christin@NEVADA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbs for Liver and Gall Bladder

In-Reply-To:  <199409141307.GAA12097@post-office.nevada.edu>



Milk Thistle or silymarin can help with liver problems.  I know that

there are other helpful herbs as well.

Hope this helps.

Chris Wiatrowski

christin@nevada.edu



On Wed, 14 Sep 1994 CFH200U@SHAKESPEARE.LIB.ODU.EDU wrote:



> Dear Herb,

>

>     Yahoo!  I'm so excited to have found this list.  I have been involved

> with using herbal medicine for about fifteen years now.  I'm no expert, but

> what I lack in knowledge I make up for in enthusiasm.

>     Right now I'm trying to purify my liver and gall bladder with a

> combination of diet and herbal assistance.  I opened my well-worn paperback

> version of John Lust's "The Herb Book" and found rosemary, burdock,

> chamomille, and fenugreek to be good hepatic aids...not a tasty combo, mind

> you.  Does anyone have any suggestions for herbs that might be more potent

> or suited for what I'm trying to do?  Thanks in advance,

>

> Charlie Hillen, Library Assistant            "Never become irritable waiting

> Old Dominion University                  for things to get better.  If you'll

> cfh200u@oduvm.cc.odu.edu                 be patient, you'll find you can wait

>                                          much faster."   --Unknown Author

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 11:09:14 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "M. Umehara" <umehara@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

Subject:      Re: Herbs for Liver and Gall Bladder



  Dandelion is helpful to aid the liver in general detoxification.

Silymarin, a milk thislte extract, is found to actually let the

liver regenerate itself, though this is a very long process (9-12 mo).

There are a variety of mixtures of variable potencies, some of which

are combined with dandelion and other nutrients.

  I've also been told by an oriental massage therapist that bitters are

good for the intestinal system which helps to take some of the pressure

off of the liver and gall bladder.  I've tried taking Swedish bitters

in capsule form and didn't experience any noticable change.  It is

possible that the bitters should be eaten with the food to increase the

saliva to aid digestion, but I have not found anything in any literature

at this time.



Mike U.

Internet: umehara@nadc.nadc.navy.mil



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:01:50 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Dehydrator for herbs



Hi everybody, I posted about a cheap dehydrator for herbs a few weeks ago

and it seems some people had an interest in one.



The dehydrator went on sale this week for $12.99 so I picked up 6 of them.

Two of them are already spoken for but if anyone else would like me to

send them one please e-mail me.



The cost is:

                 12.99  Dehydrator

                   .78   plus tax

                  5.45   Priority mail shipping 5lbs all zones (lower 48 U.S.)

                  1.75   insurance & certified

                ------

                $20.97



I'm asking for $22.00 even. I don't think $1.03 is to much to ask for gas

and time.



Mu apologies to anyone who might consider this a commercial blurb, that's

why I posted the price breakdown and the original store sticker is still

on the box.



Thanx



 



 

--

     aj682@leo.nmc.edu           |      Traverse City FreePort@

      Brian K. Koster            |     Northwestern Michigan College

      Holland, Michigan          |      Traverse City, Michigan

    >"BOOKS! I'd rather lend you my dog, he can find his way home."<



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:14:35 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Comments:     <Parser> W: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and

              ignored.

From:         Becky Bruner <ISRLB@EMUVM1.BITNET>

Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Subject:      Re: Wiretap Bill Alert

In-Reply-To:  Message of Fri, 09 Sep 94 16:09:02 EDT from <ADEAN@EMUVM1>



I think this is in reference to the 'clipper chip' stuff.  I don't recall

which particular branch is pressuring AT&T - I think it started with

Slick Willie in the White House.  I also don't think *all* phone

manufacturers have to use the thing - there's some kind of club

the gov't is holding over AT&T's head, to get them to include it.

Send Bert a note - he's kept up with the thing much more than I have,

so he'll have more current info.



Becky



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 14 Sep 1994 21:14:53 -0600

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From:         Patricia Esquivel <pesquive@CARIARI.UCR.AC.CR>

Subject:      ASP Interim Annual Meeting, San Jose, Costa Rica



                                                        September 14, 1994



 

Dear Colleague,



        The American Society of Pharmacognosy is pleased to announce its

1994 Interim Meeting, to be held in San Jose, Costa Rica on October 20-22,

1994.  The meeting will include both contributed paper sessions and a

symposium titled "International Property Rights, Natural Derived Bioactive

Compounds and Resource Conservation".



        The goals of this symposium are: (1) to recognize the interests of

developing countries in conservation and sustainable utilization of

biodiversity resources as a potential source of medicinal agents; (2) to

consider the wide range of policies on drug explorations now being

implemented in developing countries and how they contribute to the rational

management of biodiversity resources; and (3) to explore how the

appropiate use of intellectual property rights law and policy can lead to the

appropiate sharing of the benefits of biodiversity prospecting and further the

ultimate goal of biodiversity conservation and utilization.



        On the first day of this Symposium, speakers from developed

countries will outline their interests in exploration for new plant-derived

therapeutic agents and their concerns for biodiversity conservation.

Representatives of universities, large and small pharmaceutical companies

and governamental agencies will be among speakers.  The neccesity for

mechanisms to appropiately implement the rights of developing countries to

their genetic resources as an incentive to resource conservation, and legal

issues involved in the implementation will also be discussed.  Contributed

paper sessions will begin in the afternoon of the first day and continue

through the second day, concurrently with the Symposium.  A poster session

will be held on the first evening.



        On the second day, speakers from as many as 16 developing countries

will outline the regulations and policies currently in effect in their respective

nations, and their views on the ways in which these regulations will help

promote the rational and sustainable utilization, and the conservation of their

biodiversity resources.



        On the third day and final day, a morning round-table discussion will

allow free exchange of views among the varying interests at the Symposium.

The results of this discussion session will be summarized in a written

document by a small committee, which will include representatives of both

the developed and developing countries.  Symposium proceedings will be

published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology.  In the afternoon, tours of

INBio and the University of Costa Rica facilities will be offered, in addition

to tours of other locations of interest to ASP members.



        The Meeting will be held at the Hotel Herradura, located in the scenic

Central Plateau of Costa Rica, only a few minutes from Santamaria

International Airport.  The Hotel has full, air-conditioned facilities for

international meetings, including simultaneous translation (Spanish

translations will be offered for the English-language Symposium).  The

Hotel itself is a first-class venue which includes a casino, swimming poool,

sauna, golf and tennis as well as three restaurants.  Trips to many fascinating

locations in Costa Rica are available through a travel agency in the hotel.

San Jose boasts a mild, tropical-type climate: October is during the rainy

season, so umbrellas and raincoats will be needed.  The Caribbean coast,

[Ahowever, is dry during October, and can be reached in a few hours for eco-

tours and recreation before the meeting.  In San Jose itself, there are many

opportunities to enjoy cultural events, restaurants, nightlife and shopping.

English is widely spoken in the city and throughout the country.



        The Interim Annual Meeting will be held just after the Annual

Meeting of the Costa Rican Pharmaceutical Association.  Beginning on

October 24, two days after the end of this meeting, is the "Down to Earth"

conference of the International Society for Ecological Economics, also being

held at the Hotel Herradura.  We hope that persons interested in either of

these subjects will find it convenient to attend two meetings in succession.



        You will find registration forms enclosed in this packet.  For advance

registration, forms and fees should be sent to Dr. Gerardo Mora, Chair of

the Local Arrangements and Scientific Program Committees, at the

University of Costa Rica by July 1, 1994.  Forms for submission of

contributed papers and posters can be obtained from Dr. Mora and are due

by August 1, 1994.



        This should prove a fascinating and challenging meeting to all who

attend it.  I will look forward to seeing you there.



 

Sincerely,



Norman R. Farnsworth

Chair, Organizing Committee



 

AMERICAN SOCIETY OF PHARMACOGNOSY

INTERIM ANNUAL MEETING



Acomodations:



The Local Arrangements Committee has booked a block of 130 hotel rooms

at special conference rates at the Hotel Herradura for Meeting participants.

If more than 130 rooms are requested, the Hotel will arrange for rooms at

similiar rates in a neighboring hotel only 5 minutes walk from the

Conference Center.  Lower priced accomodations in San Jose are also

available; shuttle service will be provided to the meeting from the hotels

listed below.



You must book your hotel room with the Hotel Herradura on this

registration form in order to receive conference rates.  Rooms will be

assigned on a first-served basis.  The Hotel will send you a confirmation of

your reservation.



 

Room Type Desired: Special Conference Rates. Please check room type

needed.



        (  ) Standard



        Single or Double at US$80 per night plus 13.3% tax and gratuities



        (  ) Deluxe



        Single or Double at US$95 per night plus 13.3% tax and gratuities



 

Reservation Arrangements: Please check.



        (  ) If the room type I have checked is not available, please book me

             into the alternate room type.



        (  ) If the room type I have checked is not available, please notify me

             and I will make reservations elsewhere.



        (  ) Do not book me into the Hotel Herradura; I will make my own

             reservations elsewhere.



 

Dates: (Meeting dates October 20-22).  Please check nights desired:



        (  ) October 19                 (  ) October 21

        (  ) October 20                 (  ) October 22

        (  ) October 23



Room size needed: Please check room size needed.  Both Standard and Deluxe rooms

are available in Single and Double sizes.  Costs are the same whether Single or Double

are selected.



        (  ) Single                     (  ) Double



Alternate Hotels: Please make your own reservations with these hotels:



D'Galah Hotel; telephone (506)-234-1743, (506)-253-7539

Ave del Paraiso Hotel; telephone (506)-225-8515

Hotel Irazu, telephone (506)-220-1441; fax (506) 231-5834

Hotel Corobici; telephone (506)-232-8122; fax (506)-231-5834

Hotel Aurola Holiday Inn, telephone (506) 233-7233; fax (506) 255-1036

Hotel San Jose Palacio, telephone (506)-220-2036



 

American Society of Pharmacognosy

Interim Annual Meeting, October 20-22, 1994

Hotel Herradura, San Jose, Costa Rica



 

Registration Form



 

Send Registration Form to:

***********************************

Dr. Gerardo Mora

School of Chemistry

University of Costa Rica

San Jose, Costa Rica

Phone: (506)-224-8245

Fax.   : (506)-253-5020

email: gamora@cariari.ucr.ac.cr

***********************************



Name:_________________________________________________________________



Institution:______________________________________________________________



Address:_______________________________________________________________



City:__________________State/Prov.:_________________

Postal Code:__________________

Country:_______________Phone:_____________________

Fax:_________________________



 

Registration Fee:

        Late Registration (after July 1):    US$150.00           __________



        The registration for includes tickets for the banquet on October 21.

        Extra tickets may be ordered at a cost of US$ 30.00. Only 250 seats

        are available for the banquet, so be certain to order tickets now!



        Extra banquet tickets: US$30.00  Number of tickets:___  Ticket Total:_____

 

        Registration Total                                                   _____



        Please make payments in US$ to the American Society of Pharmacognosy



 

Contributed Paper and Poster Sessions:



        Contributed paper sessions will be held concurrently with the Symposium; the

poster session on the evening of October 20.  Forms for submission of abstracts for these

sessions may be obtained from Dr. Gerardo Mora at the address above.  Abstracts are

due July 15, 1994.



Side Trips:



        Side trips arranged by the Meeting organizers will be available on Saturday

afternoon, October 22 for a small fee.  Longer trips to various parts of Costa Rica are

available before, during and after the  Meeting through the Hotel Herradura travel

agency.



Other Meetings:



        Costa Rican Pharmaceutical Assn. Information: Dr. Richard Aguilar, telephone

        (506)-235-0276.

        "Down to Earth" Information: Dr. Charlotte Gyllenhaal, (1)-312-996-1870.



 

Tentative Symposium Information



October 20, 1994



Plenary Symposium Sessions:



Biodiversity prospecting and benefit-sharing: perspectives from the Field (D.D. Soejarto,

University of Illinois)

Drug discovery and development: the position of intellectual property rights (Michael

Boyd, U.S. National Cancer Institute)

Pharmaceutical company research: the experience of large companies (Robert Borris,

Merck; David Turner, Glaxo)

Pharmaceutical company research: the experience of small companies (Lisa Conte,

Shaman Pharmaceuticals)

Academic research: policies and practices (Steve Bertha, University of Illinois

Intellectual Property Office)

The rights of developing countries to plant genetic resources (Walter Reid, World

Resources Institute)

Legal issues in sharing the benefits of biodiversity propecting (Tom Mays, U.S. National

Cancer Institute)



Other Activities:

Contributed Paper Session (afternoon)

Poster Session (evening)



 



October 21, 1994



Plenary Symposium Sessions



Interests and Policies of Developing Countries Regarding Intellectual Property Rights for

Plant-Derived Drugs.



Elaine Elisabetsky, Brazil

Rosa Angela Calle V., Colombia

Luis Jose Poveda, Costa Rica

Victor Hugo Villacres O., Ecuador

B.N. Mehrotra, India

Henry Soelistyo Budi, Indonesia

Fong Joo Chung, Malaysia

Max Kuduk, Papua New Guinea

Domingo A. Madulid, Philippines

Mai van Tri, Vietnam

Johnson Jato, Cameroon

Rogasian L.L. Mahunnah, Tanzania



Other Activities:

Contributed Paper Session

Banquet



 



October 22, 1994



Plenary Symposium Session



Special Invited Lecture: Campothecin and Taxol: Discovery to Clinic (Monroe Wall,

Research Triangle)

Round-Table discussion moderated by Lisa Conte.  Panelists: Developed Country

Speakers.

Discussants: Developing Country Speakers.

Sympossium Summary and Conclusions (Ana Sittenfeld, INBio; D.D. Soejarto,

University of Illinois)



Other Activities:

Tours to INBio, University of Costa Rica, other locations.



 

Symposium Sponsors:

American Society of Pharmacognosy

University of Costa Rica

Instituto de Biodiversidad (INBio)

MacArthur Foundation

University of Illinois at Chicago



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 15 Sep 1994 22:54:26 -0700

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From:         Mitchell Bebel Stargrove <mitch@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Review of IBIS clinical software



Software Review



IBIS - Gateway to Health Knowledge



reviewed by Dr. Bob Sager



For the health practitioner today, there is an overwhelming amount of

information on a multitude of non-traditional or holistic approaches to

working with patients' illnesses.  The challenge is to find the information

quickly and keep it organized.  My office library just keeps growing and of

course I have to wade through it to find any material.



Recently a new piece of software appeared to make this task enjoyable and

much more effective. IBIS (pronounced 'eye-bis'), for Interactive BodyMind

Information System, is a collection of awesome magnitude.  The software

presents information on eight alternative approaches to 282 common

conditions, organized by body systems.  Although this is by no means

totally comprehensive, the 282 conditions do represent the most common

presenting problems in practice.



The treatments are organized into eight sections - physical medicine,

nutrition, Western botanicals, Chinese herbals, traditional Chinese

acupuncture, homeopathy, vibrational therapies, and psychospiritual

approaches.  Inside each of these sections there can be many subsections.

The vibrational area, for example, includes information on the use of

colors, music, Bach flower remedies, gems and crystals.



When you select a condition you then are linked to the data in each of

these treatment sections for that condition.  Clicking a button for

nutrition, for example, takes you directly to the nutritional treatments

for this specific condition. then you can select parts of the treatment

data presented and cut and paste to a report for your patient.  This report

can be personalized and then stored and/or printed.



For example, for someone with arthritis, I easily created a personalized

report listing dietary recommendations, acupuncture points, supplements,

physical therapy approaches and Chinese herbal suggestions.  This report

can be stored separately and used over and over.  I could not have

assembled this wide range of data, let alone create the report so quickly,

with any other resource available today.



To read indepth about any treatment you go to the overall Materia Medica

just by clicking on another onscreen button.  This is more than just the

homeopathic Materia Medica - all treatments are available in this section

with extensive references on which the data has been based.  Current texts,

journal articles, as well as time-honored sources have all been used to

support the information  on each treatment.



IBIS is the result of some 4 years of development by teams of health

practitioners in each of the major therapeutic fields.  The overall

organization and energy for the concept comes from AMR'TA - The Alchemical

Medicine Research and Teaching Association.  Updates and expansion of the

material are planned for the future and this database may eventually show

up an CD-ROM as it grows in size.



For the Macintosh this runs in HyperCard and occupies some 14 megabytes of

space on your hard drive.  It will run in either system 6.0.5 or system 7.

For the IBM user IBIS is available in a HyperPad program of similar size.

The IBM program runs in a standard DOS system and provides menu and button

controls

and can be mouse driven. An upgrade to run under Windows is coming later

this year.



These programs maximize the hypertext or linking between all the different

bits of data in the program.  I found the software very user-friendly and

easy to get up and running.  The manual is well-organized and also adds

some additional information on prescribing techniques. Support from AMR'TA

is readily available.  Plans are also afoot to launch a world-wide bulletin

board service for IBIS users.



And you can customize this program  and add your own links as well.  There

is space to create individual patients files to allow research to

accumulate on your treatments and outcomes.  In my practice I could create

patient files for each patient treated with a particular therapy and then

follow these patients, recording the results for future analysis.



This software belongs in the office of every practitioner utilizing

complementary or alternative medicine.  Anyone else wishing access to

information on indications, constituents, contraindications, side effects

and toxicity of various therapies would consult this software regularly.



Are there any shortcomings? Yes, because the overall organization is

related to 282 medical conditions, the homeopathic and traditional

acupuncture areas have been set to conform to these somewhat artificial

topics.  However, to compensate for this, when you look up the acupuncture

points for a condition they are organized according to the TCM model and

you can select points by further analysis of the other symptoms present.  I

use acupuncture extensively in my practice and base it on other models,

such as the French energetic system.  So the traditional model used here

stimulates me to think of other points.  Similarly, when looking for the

homeopathic remedies, I must elicit more information than just the simple

Western diagnosis to get maximum benefit from the software.  HyperCard and

HyperPad can be somewhat slow operating platforms when searching for data.

On the other hand there is no other database that can allow such incredible

cross-links in the database and also allow easy expansion of the

information with your own material.  I could easily add in the acupuncture

points that I would use to this software without disturbing the overall

design.

This version of IBIS is strictly a text-based information system. In the

acupuncture section pictures of acupuncture point locations would enhance

the software.  This is planned for future upgrades. CD-ROM storage would

add considerable storage power to this system in the future and also allow

for such graphic additions.



These are minor issues compared with the vast resource this software

represents in the healing world.  If you are looking for a major

information inventory on the healing arts, IBIS deserves your

consideration.



originally published in

Townsend Letter for Doctors August/September 1992



 

Bob Sager, M.D., is a former Board member of the American Holistic Medical

Association who includes homeopathy, acupuncture and other elements of

complementary medicine in his practice.



The preceding is a review of the initial version of IBIS 1.0 (for DOS );

IBIS - The Interactive BodyMind Information System - is a clinical database

and reference work for health care practitioners, students, educators and

researchers.

IBIS was produced by AMR'TA, a non-profit medical research and teaching

association.

The new IBIS 1.2 (for DOS) is just being released.

You can get more information about IBIS via email as <ibis@teleport.com> or

by calling 1-800-627-6851.

Demo disks are available.



Blessings and Good Health,

Mitch                                       "Every man and every woman

                                                     is a star."

(a.k.a. Mitchell Bebel Stargrove, N.D., L.Ac.)

mitch@teleport.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 05:17:35 +0200

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From:         Mick Youther <YODER@SIUCVMB.BITNET>

Subject:      herb buyers



Does anyone have a list of companies who buy herbs, besides the usual

ginseng and goldenseal collected in the wild?

                                  TIA,

                                    Mick Youther

                                    <yoder@siucvmb.siu.edu>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 09:42:45 -0500

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From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      HELP - hot peppers!

In-Reply-To:  <9409071554.AA23011@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> from "Conrad Richter" at Sep

              7, 94 11:53:55 am



We have an interesting problem here, and I thought maybe someone on this

list can help.  One of our grad students was cooking *hot* peppers last

night and got juice all over his hands.  They still sting, and they still

even taste of hot peppers even though he has washed and washed and

washed. Any suggestions??--



 

Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:13:11 EDT

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From:         "Charles F. Hillen" <CFH200U@ODUVM.CC.ODU.EDU>

Subject:      Rooting cuttings



Dear Herb,



          I have a general question, but I'm guessing you all might know as

well as anybody else.  When one is attempting to root a cutting, what are the

best conditions for the cutting?  I have heard only rumours about it and all

different kinds of people have varying stories.  I've heard to use only clear

glass in as much light as possible, opaque container/bright light, dark

container/little light, etc.  Can anyone shed light on the growth process, or

how this is best done in kind of general terms?  Thanks in advance for any

advice.



         Charlie Hillen

         Norfolk  VA (Zone 8, I think)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:01:11 -0500

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From:         "Stephen J. Marsden" <smarsden@OZARKS.SGCL.LIB.MO.US>

Subject:      Re: Rooting cuttings

In-Reply-To:  <9409191423.AA26490@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us>



You must know the requirements of the plant that you are rooting.

General instructions will get you now where.  Steve



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Charles F. Hillen wrote:



> Dear Herb,

>

>           I have a general question, but I'm guessing you all might know as

> well as anybody else.  When one is attempting to root a cutting, what are the

> best conditions for the cutting?  I have heard only rumours about it and all

> different kinds of people have varying stories.  I've heard to use only clear

> glass in as much light as possible, opaque container/bright light, dark

> container/little light, etc.  Can anyone shed light on the growth process, or

> how this is best done in kind of general terms?  Thanks in advance for any

> advice.

>

>          Charlie Hillen

>          Norfolk  VA (Zone 8, I think)

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 11:43:29 -0500

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From:         "A jester unemployed is nobody's fool."

              <STU_DRFULLER@JMUVAX.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!



>We have an interesting problem here, and I thought maybe someone on this

>list can help.  One of our grad students was cooking *hot* peppers last

>night and got juice all over his hands.  They still sting, and they still

>even taste of hot peppers even though he has washed and washed and

>washed. Any suggestions??--



Rule # 1 of Hot Peppers:  Oil and water do not mix.  It is the hot pepper

oil that is causing his hands to still burn.  I would try using a surgical

cleanser like Alconox(sp?) which will strip every ounce of oil from your

hands.  It can also be found in chemistry and bio labs.  Using chalk powder

like the kind that gmynasts use might also work.  Have him rub his hands

good in the stuff and wait a while for it to soak everything up.  Then

wash it off with a good dishwashing detergent.  This is expanding on the

home remedy of rubbing chalk on oil and grease stains.



Hope it helps!!



Deb



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:50:02 -0400

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From:         Lucy Doyle CFS <doyle@HAL.FMHI.USF.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!

In-Reply-To:  <199409191418.KAA09497@hal.fmhi.usf.edu>



One reason yogurt is almost always called for as a side dish to curries

is its superior, how shall I say, 'extinguishing' abilities. I have used

it successfully on my face when I was foolish enough to touch it after

making chili. It will take a little bit for it to work, but I have not

found better to reduce the fire.  In a pinch milk will do, but not as well.



Good luck.



Lucy.



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Deborah Duchon wrote:



> We have an interesting problem here, and I thought maybe someone on this

> list can help.  One of our grad students was cooking *hot* peppers last

> night and got juice all over his hands.  They still sting, and they still

> even taste of hot peppers even though he has washed and washed and

> washed. Any suggestions??--

>

>

> Deborah Duchon

> antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

> Georgia State University

> 404/651-1038

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:11:50 -0400

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From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Dehydrators



If anyone sent me any mail regarding dehydrators for herbs this week-end

you will have to re-send, the mailer was down here since Friday.



Thanx



 

--

     aj682@leo.nmc.edu           |      Traverse City FreePort@

      Brian K. Koster            |     Northwestern Michigan College

      Holland, Michigan          |      Traverse City, Michigan

    >"BOOKS! I'd rather lend you my dog, he can find his way home."<



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 12:44:09 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!

In-Reply-To:  <199409191608.AA19642@mail.crl.com>



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, A jester unemployed is nobody's fool. wrote:



> >We have an interesting problem here, and I thought maybe someone on this

> >list can help.  One of our grad students was cooking *hot* peppers last

> >night and got juice all over his hands.  They still sting, and they still

> >even taste of hot peppers even though he has washed and washed and

> >washed. Any suggestions??--

>



There are several things that work: Mrs. Stewarts Bluing is the best.

I used to grow Habanero peppers and would seed them so I know what

excruciating pain is....rub bluing all over hands and soak in lemon juice

then wash off and repeat.



 

---------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===----



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:47:40 EST

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From:         Karen Schwalbe <schwalbe@HOH.MBL.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!



Have him soak his hands in cold water as much as possible. A

friend did the same thing two years ago, and it took three days

before the stinging sensation went away



-Karen

schwalbe@hoh.mbl.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 14:47:01 PDT

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From:         Elena Victory <60363873@WSUVM1.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 16 Sep 1994 to 19 Sep 1994

In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue,

              20 Sep 1994 00:00:59 +0200 from <LISTSERV@VM3090.EGE.EDU.TR>



Dear Ms. Duchon,

     A Chemist I work with once told me that the juice from hot peppers was

fat and alcohol soluable.  He said that is why people like to drink tequila

after eating the peppers.

     If what he said was true, I would suggest that your employee wash their

hands with olive oil, or rubbing alcohol.

     Unfortunately I have no actual experience with this, but please write

back and let me know if it had any effect.



Good luck,  Elena K. Victory



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 20:02:40 -0400

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From:         Jane Segelken <jsegelke@CCE.CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      orris root - again!



Several weeks ago I asked about orris root . . . what to do with it to dry

it and get it ready for potpourri? No responses received . . . does anyone

know? Thanks . . . Jane



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 01:33:48 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!

In-Reply-To:  <199409192045.AA25491@mail.crl.com>



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Karen Schwalbe wrote:



> Have him soak his hands in cold water as much as possible. A

> friend did the same thing two years ago, and it took three days

> before the stinging sensation went away



 

** That's actually the worst thing you can do....try Mrs Stewart's Bluing or

soaking them ion Coca Cola <warm>. This from the hispanics who I hired

years ago to remove the seeds from my habanero peppers. Even with masks

and gloves they would get problems. They came from Modesto where a lot of

peppers are grown and also said it helps if you are aware of the nature

of peppers <g>.



---------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===----



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 01:40:24 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 16 Sep 1994 to 19 Sep 1994

In-Reply-To:  <199409192151.AA04054@mail.crl.com>



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Elena Victory wrote:



> Dear Ms. Duchon,

>      A Chemist I work with once told me that the juice from hot peppers was

> fat and alcohol soluable.  He said that is why people like to drink tequila

> after eating the peppers.



Hate to burst the bubble here but that is NOT the reason they drink

alcohol <G>. People like to drink Tequila...period. The peppers are

an accesorry not a necessity. Lemon juice and sour cream <yogurt tends to

be a little rare in pepper-land> was listed as the #1 and #2 aids to the

'recreational eating of hot peppers' in the Southwest Pepper Papers.



 

---------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===----



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 07:17:56 -0400

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From:         Lucy Doyle CFS <doyle@HAL.FMHI.USF.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Rooting cuttings

In-Reply-To:  <199409191503.LAA10329@hal.fmhi.usf.edu>



While I agree that you do need to know at least something about the

parent plant, there are some generalizations that are at least worth

trying if you can get no information.  Use the tender, green growing tip

of a branch--woody stems are very hard to root. Reduce the leaves to only

two or three and if they are large, cut them off half way.  Keep the soil

moist, not soppy wet nor dry and keep the air moist and warm.  If you

place it in direct sunlight you are liable to end up with steamed cutting

instead of new plant, if you place it in heavy shade there won't be

enough to feed the engines in the leaf that make roots, etc. Most green,

leafy, plants will follow these general rules, but some knowledge of the

parent will help these guidelines yield success.



Good luck.



Lucy.



On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Stephen J. Marsden wrote:



> You must know the requirements of the plant that you are rooting.

> General instructions will get you now where.  Steve

>

> On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Charles F. Hillen wrote:

>

> > Dear Herb,

> >

> >           I have a general question, but I'm guessing you all might know as

> > well as anybody else.  When one is attempting to root a cutting, what are the

> > best conditions for the cutting?  I have heard only rumours about it and all

> > different kinds of people have varying stories.  I've heard to use only clear

> > glass in as much light as possible, opaque container/bright light, dark

> > container/little light, etc.  Can anyone shed light on the growth process, or

> > how this is best done in kind of general terms?  Thanks in advance for any

> > advice.

> >

> >          Charlie Hillen

> >          Norfolk  VA (Zone 8, I think)

> >

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 07:56:25 -0500

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From:         Kathy Corcoran <kcorcora@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>

Subject:      Help with hot peppers

In-Reply-To:  <01HHBOSU34OO000CB4@crcvms.unl.edu>



Something that worked for me after working with habaneros, with hotest

pepper, is this:  wash hands with a good soap like Ivory, then rub

household bleach over your hands, follow this with a rinse of white

vinegar and rinse well with water.  Then apply lots of hand lotion!  It's

not gentle but the bleach dissolves the pepper and the vinegar neutralizes

the bleach.  Better than rubbing your eye after handling peppers.



 

* Kathy Corcoran                 Art Reference Library *

* kcorcora@unomaha.edu           Joslyn Art Museum     *

* (402)342-3200 ext.239 (V)      Omaha NE              *



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:16:05 CST

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From:         Angella Anderson <unicorn@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!



In Message Mon, 19 Sep 1994 09:42:45 -0500,

  Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU> writes:



>We have an interesting problem here, and I thought maybe someone on this

>list can help.  One of our grad students was cooking *hot* peppers last

>night and got juice all over his hands.  They still sting, and they still

>even taste of hot peppers even though he has washed and washed and

>washed. Any suggestions??--



Deborah,



I have read in several herb books that the only things that will neutralize

the capsaicin is either milk or beer.  Try one or both of these.  Hope it

helps.

*******************************************************************

   Angella Anderson             University of Illinois

   unicorn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     Services for Sensory Accommodations

                                1207 S Oak Room 131

                                Champaign, IL 61820

                                217-333-4604



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:04:34 -0400

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From:         Liz Linton <MELINTON@ALISON.SBC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HELP - hot peppers!



Try washing in alcohol--then soap and water. Alcohol breaks up the oil that's

causing the burn. Water alone or soap and water without a solvent (such as

the bluing someone else suggested) are completely useless.



Liz Linton     melinton@alison.sbc.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:12:03 CST

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From:         Carla Freeman <cjfreeman@MAIL.MILLIKIN.EDU>

Subject:      INDEX



          "index herb"



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 21 Sep 1994 08:11:00 GMT

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From:         NEI BRITO <nei.brito%sec21@AX.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Pyrrolizidine alkaloids



From: nei.brito@sec21.uucp



Dear Herb,



I would be very pleased to know of recent (1990-94) references or

comments on the toxicity of pirolyzidine alkaloids in any

other areas of academical work but Phytochemistry; which means:

botany, pharmacology, ethnobotany, toxicology, agriculture  reports etc.



They should occur mainly in Borraginaceae, Fabaceae and Asteraceae

  particularly in genus: Symphytum, Crotalaria, Senecio and Heliotropium

  and are highly hepatotoxic.



It's mainly for a small integrated project at Pharmacy School of Univ.

of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.



        Thank you very much in advance,



                                          Nei Brito



 * OLX 2.1 TD * ...RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 21 Sep 1994 08:29:21 PST

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From:         "FRED W. BACH" <music@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA>

Subject:      Re: Help with hot peppers



>From:  MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET" 21-SEP-1994 01:54:50.95

>To:    MX%"HERB@TREARN.BITNET"

>CC:

>Subj:  Help with hot peppers

>

>From: Kathy Corcoran <kcorcora@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>

>

>Something that worked for me after working with habaneros, with hotest

>pepper, is this:  wash hands with a good soap like Ivory, then rub

>household bleach over your hands, follow this with a rinse of white

>vinegar and rinse well with water.  Then apply lots of hand lotion!  It's

>not gentle but the bleach dissolves the pepper and the vinegar neutralizes

>the bleach.  Better than rubbing your eye after handling peppers.

>

>

>* Kathy Corcoran                 Art Reference Library *

>* kcorcora@unomaha.edu           Joslyn Art Museum     *

>* (402)342-3200 ext.239 (V)      Omaha NE              *



 



   Kathy:



   While I am sure that your remedy works, vinegar does NOT neutralize

   bleach.  It may assist in removing and de-odorizing bleach.  Actually,

   baking soda *neutralizes* bleach rather well.



   Mildly acidic things like vinegar, however, do tend to maintain the

   skin's natural pH.  Not only that, the acetic acid in vinegar also helps

   to dissolve oil-soluble things like the active ingredients in peppers.



   *****************



   I am going to recommend something that has NOT YET been recommended

   for the hot-pepper problem, but I think it should work.  That is:

   FAST ORANGE.



   Fast Orange is a product made from oranges.  The oil in oranges is

   particularly good at dissolving greasy oily things off the hands, such

   as after working on your car engine.  It is gentle on the skin, it works

   really quickly, is very pleasant, and washes off with warm or cold water.



   I'd give this one a try.  I use it all the time for dirty greasy hands.

   There are other products that are similarly based on oranges.  Read the

   instructions.  These products should be available in all good automotive

   stores.  Up here, Canadian Tire sells one.  You could try K-Mart.



 

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca

 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 327/333

 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074

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  Damien says " If you don't STAND for SOMETHING, you'll FALL for ANYTHING "

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.

 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.



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Date:         Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:41:05 EDT

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From:         Bonnie Wiseman <YE65@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      eye disorders



perhaps this thread has been on "Herb" before....but a friend of mine

wanted me to pose the question..Are there any natural remedies for

persons suffering with glaucoma/cataracts...such as the herbs

eyebright,bilbery, any successes with them?



Thanks, Bon



 

Bonnie Wiseman

Healthy Habits - Big Rapids Michigan

YE65@Music.Ferris.Edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:17:21 -0500

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From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Help with hot peppers

In-Reply-To:  <9409211717.AA21267@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> from "FRED W. BACH" at Sep

              21, 94 08:29:21 am



Thanks to all of you who sent hot pepper remedies. It was very

interesting. Brian, the student who burned himself, has tried several,

and says that none have worked so far. But now that it's been four days

since the incident in question, the pepper-juice burn in going away on

its own. Thanks again. --



 

Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 23 Sep 1994 01:15:00 -0500

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Grant E Rostig Dc (Grant E Rostig DC)" <grantr@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU>

Subject:      Natural Cures for Asthma?



Dear Asthma Sufferers and Others.



I am interested in information that you might generously

share with me about natural cures for asthma.  Please assume

that I know nothing about any cures.



I am interested in anything NATURAL that helps asthma: substances,

environment and exercises, etc.  Please let me know if you have

PERSONAL EXPERIENCES with the cure, and how it worked for you.  I

am collecting this information for a paper I am writing.



Are there archives with this information?



I am also interested in side effects / adverse effects of

over-the-counter and prescription medications.  I can not

use information about how well various drugs might work, because

that is not my topic.



Please e-mail me or post to this newsgroup.  Please note

that, there are some who attack (flame) people who write

postings about natural cures, so you may want to e-mail

it to me in private.



I will post a list of the cures to this newsgroup

when I have compiled them.



Very Best Wishes, and thank you in advance for you time.



Grant E. Rostig, D.C.        <grantr@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

Prevention and Wellness Clinic

291 Aurora Ave., St. Paul, MN 55103  (612) 222 3171

Chiropractic, Nutrition and Herbology.......Services and Products.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 23 Sep 1994 11:10:08 -0400

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From:         PORTNOY@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU

Subject:      Re: Natural Cures for Asthma?



Hi,



I'm sorry to write this post with this heading but I

cannot get into the list any other way.



I have a question for anyone out there.  Does anyone

know of an herb or natural treatment for an underactive

thyroid?  I have been told to go on synthroid but whenever



thyroid?  I have been told to go on synthroid but whenever

I take synthroid, I feel hyper.  I would rather try something

else.  This message got a little mixed up.  The line at the bottom

should go after "does anyone".  Thanks so much.



Please send message to me personally.



Portnoy@aesop.rutgers.edu



Paulette



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 24 Sep 1994 11:14:58 -0500

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From:         "Fran E. Rich" <frich@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Vetiver - Help



I have a rather large clump of Vetiver - it's over 5' tall. I know the

root of the vetiver is what's used, but beyond that I'm stumped. Anyone

with experience in growing the stuff and actually using it?



Thanks

Fran



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 24 Sep 1994 14:09:55 CST

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From:         dav01570@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU

Subject:      still an active list?



  Back online after summer vacation but haven't received any post from

Herb%Trearn.  I might have been removed from the list or the list may have

died.

  Is there anyone out there?

                                David



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 24 Sep 1994 17:39:29 CST

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From:         dav01570@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU

Subject:      Thanks (active list)



  Thanks for the responses.  This is one of the few listservs I subsribe to.  Good to know people are still around.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 24 Sep 1994 20:20:48 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

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From:         Mitchell Bebel Stargrove <mitch@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Natural Cures for Asthma?



Dear Grant, et al -

I know that when the people who make IBIS send out either a demo disk or

printed samples, the complete entry for "asthma" from all the various

modalities of treatment is a standard offering.

You might ask them for such info.

They can be reached at 503-228-6851 or <ibis@teleport.com>.

Thay are a non-profit group and usually quite generous with the info.

Best of luck.

There are many effective treatments.



Blessings and Good Health,

Mitch                                       "Every man and every woman

                                                     is a star."

(a.k.a. Mitchell Bebel Stargrove, N.D., L.Ac.)

mitch@teleport.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 05:40:12 -0400

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From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Your right...



....it is kinda quiet around here.



 

--

     aj682@leo.nmc.edu           |      Traverse City FreePort@

      Brian K. Koster            |     Northwestern Michigan College

      Holland, Michigan          |      Traverse City, Michigan

    >"BOOKS! I'd rather lend you my dog, he can find his way home."<



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 10:23:57 EDT

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From:         "R.M.K." <YE71@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      HOLISTIC newsgroup



A thousand pardons for this semi-related question, but...

     I know that a lot of people in this group also subscribe to the

HOLISTIC newsgroup...  I have not gotten one post from the Holistic

server for at least a week.  Would someone comment on this, or send me a

private note; I guess m,aybe I should just re-subscribe..??.



Thankx mucho.

Robert----Internet: ye71@music.ferris.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 10:31:15 EDT

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From:         "R.M.K." <YE71@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      Herbalist CD-rom.?



Has anyone heard of a CD called "The Herbalist," or something close to

that..?  Has anyone out there actually used a software program that is

beyond a beginners level..?. The IBIS program sounds very promising, and

I'm still looking forward for further info.  Comments are appreciated.



Robert.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 13:40:03 -0400

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Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was

              jrg8@POSTOFFICE.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU

From:         jrg8 <jrg8@CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?



Within the next couple of weeks we are organizing a smoking cessation

program. Various areas are already developped in accordance with

well researched interventions (ie. behavioral, relapse prevention,

nutrition, medical, etc).  We have less experience however in the

use of herbs (USA, China, India) for alleviating nicotine withdrawal/

cravings. Has anyone suggestions?



 

JR Gates



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 08:41:10 -1000

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From:         Shirley Frank-Hall <shirleyf@UHUNIX.UHCC.HAWAII.EDU>

Subject:      Immune system boosters

In-Reply-To:  <9409250929.AA25775@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>



While there isn't much going on I would like to ask for more resources to

further booster my immune system.  I use sun Chorella and echinecea

currently. Thank you in advance.  sfh



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Dr. Shirley L. Frank-Hall,D.Ac.,BSN

Internet:shirleyf@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

Graduate Student - University of Hawaii, School of Nursing

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 11:43:33 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?

In-Reply-To:  <199409251758.AA02999@mail.crl.com>



On Sun, 25 Sep 1994, jrg8 wrote:



> Within the next couple of weeks we are organizing a smoking cessation



** Magnolia is one thing you want to look up. Another powerful non-herbal

aid is Baking Soda. One half teaspoon in a half cup water will decrease

the urge due to the blood pH effect. There are other herbs, one

combination for tea is:



        Echinacea

        Peppermint

        Catnip

        Blue Vervain

        Valerian

        Slippery Elm



Magnolia however acts directly on the nicotine dependency and is powerful.

Two good herbs for nourishing and cleansing the lungs that you can use in

combination are Schizandra berries and fresh Sundew extract. Sundew <Drosera

Rotundflia> is found in a tincture in some of the better health food stores.

If you can't find it as a tincture by itself there are many child's cough

preparations <herbal> which have a significant amount of Sundew in it. As

long as you check the other ingredients it is OK to use that form.



 



> Has anyone suggestions?



** As far as stragtegy and smoking is concerned stay away from tobacco

   replacements and use the baking soda.



 

   nj



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:46:49 -0400

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From:         "Matthew Brown (SOC)" <brown@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?

In-Reply-To:  <199409251754.NAA06472@luna.cas.usf.edu>



On Sun, 25 Sep 1994, jrg8 wrote:



> Within the next couple of weeks we are organizing a smoking cessation

> program. Various areas are already developped in accordance with

> well researched interventions (ie. behavioral, relapse prevention,

> nutrition, medical, etc).  We have less experience however in the

> use of herbs (USA, China, India) for alleviating nicotine withdrawal/

> cravings. Has anyone suggestions?

>

>

> JR Gates



JR--



Michael Tierra (in *The Way of Herbs*) reports that lobelia "is smoked"

(he doesn't say how effectively this works) to aid in the smoking

cessation process.  He elaborates:  "It contains lobeline, which is

similar to nicotine but does not have the same set of effects.  Thus it

reduces the sensation of need for nicotine, but does not provide the

effects that lead to addictive smoking." (p.35)



Also, as an aid in relieving the stress associated with quitting smoking,

oats (Avena sativa) are useful -- they are high in B vitamins, Calcium,

Phosphorous, Iron and Silica as well as inositol.  Curtis and Fraser

(*Natural Healing for Women*) suggest using a tincture of oats for

treating addictions withdrawal:  10-20 drops in water, 3X/day, for up to

3 months.  Alternatively, one tablespoon of oats can be boiled in 1/2

pint of water and the liquid then strained and drunk (pp. 299-300).



Good luck with your program.



Laurie Brown



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:07:39 -0700

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Mitchell Bebel Stargrove <mitch@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herbalist CD-rom.?



>Has anyone heard of a CD called "The Herbalist," or something close to

>that..?  Has anyone out there actually used a software program that is

>beyond a beginners level..?. The IBIS program sounds very promising, and

>I'm still looking forward for further info.  Comments are appreciated.

>

>Robert.



 

The Herbalist by David Hoffmann is really quite excellent.

Hoffmann's work in general is quite good and this is a well-rounded

presentation.

The treatments, principles and materia medica are very well done and have

nice photos.

There are a few minor flaws in terms of spelling.

The interface is sometimes a bit flat.



The IBIS program is much more expansive in terms of treatment options.

  It has western herbs but also nutrition, Chinese herbal formulae,

acupuncture, homeopAthy, etc. and is huge with about 15 MB (no graphics).

It is also for professionals only.

Hoffmann's program is sort of in between the lay and professional level.

The two programs are complementary rather than competing.

Hoffmann has also become a major contributor - along with Terry Willard,

Michael Moore and Matthew Wood to the update of IBIS herb section now in

revision.

If you are waiting for an IBIS DOS demo disk I heard last week that it is

in the touchup stages and will be going out soon after much delay.

Essentially a small, understaffed, non-profit with no capitalization but

lots of enthusiasm and dedication. They may be slow but they always produce

something worth waiting for.

In case you need to contact them they now are email <ibis@teleport.com>.



Blessings and Good Health,

Mitch                                       "Every man and every woman

                                                     is a star."

(a.k.a. Mitchell Bebel Stargrove, N.D., L.Ac.)

mitch@teleport.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:40:05 -0700

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From:         Barbara Ross <ae553@LAFN.ORG>

Subject:      Herbalist CD-ROM



Robert and ...



I haven't used the product, but saw an ad for "The Herbalist" CD

-ROM ($99.95) for IBMPC's and compatibles by the author of "the

Holistic Herbal," David Hoffmann. To order call (612)931-9376.

No address given.



Have a great day!



Barbara

ae553@lafn.org



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:07:52 -0700

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From:         Barbara Ross <ae553@LAFN.ORG>

Subject:      Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?



JR Gates and...



In issue No. 60 Winter 1993 of "The Herb Quarterly" (ISSN0163-9

900) there is an article by Elizabeth Phillips -"Using Herbs to

Quit Smoking."  She recommends the following teas (4oz. teacup):



   1/2 tsp. chamomile                on arising

   1/2 tsp. valerian root            to relax



   1/2 tsp. licorice root            11 AM

   1/2 tsp. comfrey                  to aid withra withdrawal



   1/2 tsp. black cohosh             noon

   1/2 tsp. burdock root             to cleanse blood



   1/2 tsp. slippery elm  &          2:30 PM

   1/2 tsp. fenugreek                to clear lungs



   1/2 tsp. magnolia  &              4 PM

   1/2 tsp. peppermint               smoker's aid in quitting



   1/2 tsp. echinacea                6 PM

   1/2 tsp. echinacea                to boost immune system

  ( 1tsp. of echinacea need

  to activate something here)



She states "smoking lowers the immune system, and one tablet

daily of 500 I.U. vitamin C, one capsule of vitamine E, and one

tablet of godenseal (golden seal root) can be added, if desired."



Guess we need WORDS of CAUTION..if you are allergic to any plant

in the aster family do not use chamomile...if you have a heart

condition do not take licorice root or golden seal tablets...if

you have high blood pressure do not take vit E caps to boost

your immune system...if you have hypo glycemia substitute myhrr

for golden seal root...do not mix herbal remedy with prescription

or over-the counter medicines...do check with your doctor.



You can get back issues of "The Herb Quarterly", POBOX 689, San

Anselmo, CA 94960 for $6. plus 1.50 postage and handling.



Another remedy which Susan Weed recommends is Avena Sativa

(oatstraw tea) and sunflower seeds for six weeks prior to

quitting...helps the body to prepare to stop smoking.



Good luck!



Barbara (who wishes she could edit this)

ae553@lafn.org



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 19:22:02 -0400

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From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Immune system boosters



My first question would be which type echinacea are you using?  Store

shelves abound with echinacea in various forms.  Traditionally the

rootstock is the plant part used but due to its recent popularity the

herb has shown up in its place since the herb can be harvested at least

twice a year but the rootstock every other year.



In my experience (climbing into flame-proof suit) the root with herb

added is the best approach.  The herb by itself doesn't seem to have the

same 'kick' in my book.



Note however, that my main use of echinacea is its protective action of

the joint lubricants in addition to strengthening the immune system,

which in my case seems to 'smarten up' my overactive immune system thereby

slowing the damage caused by osteo-arthritis.



 

>

>While there isn't much going on I would like to ask for more resources to

>further booster my immune system.  I use sun Chorella and echinecea

>currently. Thank you in advance.  sfh

>

>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

>Dr. Shirley L. Frank-Hall,D.Ac.,BSN

>Internet:shirleyf@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

>Graduate Student - University of Hawaii, School of Nursing

>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

>

>



--

     aj682@leo.nmc.edu           |      Traverse City FreePort@

      Brian K. Koster            |     Northwestern Michigan College

      Holland, Michigan          |      Traverse City, Michigan

    >"BOOKS! I'd rather lend you my dog, he can find his way home."<



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:06:54 -1000

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

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From:         Shirley Frank-Hall <shirleyf@UHUNIX.UHCC.HAWAII.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?

In-Reply-To:  <9409252020.AA00830@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>



In my haste clean up my mailbox I deleted the message from jr8 regarding

his smoking cessation program.  I would really like to hear about the

structure of the proposed plan and the timetables you are implementing as

I would like to design one encorporating acupuncture as well.  I have

found a chinese patent formula: Bupleurum & dragon bone formula

recommended for smoking & alcohol withdrawal.

        Sorry to post to the list would like to further communicate in

private. sfh



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Dr. Shirley L. Frank-Hall,D.Ac.,BSN

Internet:shirleyf@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

Graduate Student - University of Hawaii, School of Nursing

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:18:02 -0400

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From:         "J. Dashiell" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

Subject:      smoking and herbal teas



Lobelia has been used to help withdrawal from smoking.

Additionally, cigarrettes made of rosemary;

sage, and coltsfoot have also been used to cleanse the lungs.

I'm not so certain of the cigarrettes effectiveness though.



for references see Gordon, Dorothy the book of herbs and

Kloss, Jethro back to eden.



jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:27:23 -0400

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From:         Bronwen Meikle <BMEIKLE@GC1.GEORCOLL.ON.CA>

Subject:      please help me signoff



I can't find the list address, could someone please help me signoff



thanks very much,

bronwen

bmeikle@gc1.georcoll.on.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:35:17 -0400

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From:         Sarah Bracken <sbracken@EMR.CA>

Subject:      Re: Smoking cessation and herbal TX efficacy?

In-Reply-To:  <9409260650.AB08892@emr1.emr.ca> from "jrg8" at Sep 25,

              94 01:40: 03 pm



I remember reading that Thyme and Ginger are both very good for this.

I am not sure of either quantities or proportions but one can make a nice

ginger tea by grating a bit of the root and steeping it in a pot of boiling

water (Can you tell I'm an amateur?!!)



Someone asked earlier for herbs to boost the immune system...

Whenever I feel a cold coming on I immediately take echinacea which you know

fights it off.  But whenever that isn't enough, I take a couple of capsules

of powdered thyme and fenugreek which stop it in it's tracks.



Take care,

Sarah



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:07:00 EDT

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From:         "David Ames, University Of Delaware" <David.Ames@MVS.UDEL.EDU>

Subject:      Vetiver - Help

In-Reply-To:  The letter of Saturday, 24 September 1994 12:17pm ET



Neat, vetiver.  I'd love to grow some.  Is it fragrant?  Get a bottle of the

essential oil and smell it.  It's very different and mixes nicely with other

oils.  Lyn Belisle will most likely grab this and be able to give you more

info. She's on this list too.



I use it in my bath with bergamot and whatever else strikes my fancy.  Clary

Sage is another odd but nice fragrance.  Susan.Ames



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 23:16:45 GMT

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From:         ARNAUD Ruben <arnaud@EERIE.EERIE.FR>

Subject:      How sleep....



HI!



I want to know herb in order to speel very good & quick when I am not tired.



Thanx



 



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 20:42:17 -0400

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From:         "s.i. sussman" <ssussman@JULIAN.UWO.CA>

Subject:      E Mail Jack Barclay

In-Reply-To:  <9409262259.AA12330@julian.uwo.ca>



Could someone send me Jack's email Thank you I apologize for taking up

space SS



Dr.Sam Sussman,                                 Sam Sussman

Director,Social Services,                       1532 Hillside Drive

London Psychiatric Hospital,                    London,Ontario,Canada

850 Highbury Avenue,                            N6G4M4

London,Ontario,Canada-N6A4H1                    Telephone and Fax-519-858-0023

Assistant Professor of Psychiatry,              (the above-RESIDENCE-)

University of Western Ontario                   or

Fax:519-455-9986(Canada country code first)     P.O.Box 612212,

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         Silvia Loomis <loomiss@BELNET.BELLEVUE.K12.WA.US>

Subject:      Unsubscribing to list



Greetings,



The  *best* way to communicate with Herb-L within my experiences has

been to use the following address:



LISTSERV@VM3090.EGE.EDU.TR



I have never personally seen it fail.



Good Luck,



Silvia Loomis

loomiss@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      tropical herb plants



  Help!!!



  I received 2 tropical herb plants last Thursday:



          Stevia ribaudiana (Sweetleaf)



          Pogostemon heyneanus (Patchouli)



  They were in sad shape when I opened the box, the stevia seems to

be recovering ..slowly.. but the patchouli is ..just..barely..there..



  Anyone have any advice?  The library and 3 bookstores had bazillions

of references on tomatoes and such but nada for tropicals.  My little

library covers - most - of the herbs I'm working with, but on

tropicals, again nada.



  And while I'm on the subject, any recommendations on a tropical

plant reference?  Good broad-based herb/flower reference?  During my

book-diving expedition I noticed many of the herbs I was hoping to

include in my 'greenroom' were conspicuous by their absence

(echinacea sp.<coneflower> , valeriana officinalis <valerian>).



Thanx in advance.



 



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 26 Sep 1994 23:07:46 -0500

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From:         Grant E Rostig DC <grantr@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbalist CD-rom.?



>Has anyone heard of a CD called "The Herbalist," or something close to

>that..?



Yes, I use it and find it helpfull and of high quality.



> Has anyone out there actually used a software program that is

>beyond a beginners level..?. The IBIS program sounds very promising, and

>I'm still looking forward for further info.  Comments are appreciated.

>

>Robert.

>

>

Grant E. Rostig, D.C.        <grantr@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

Prevention and Wellness Clinic

291 Aurora Ave., St. Paul, MN 55103  (612) 222 3171

Chiropractic, Nutrition and Herbology.......Services and Products.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:08:52 CDT

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From:         Nancy Feraldi <NGF334T@SMSVMA.BITNET>

Subject:      warts



I need to know herbal remedies for warts.  Someone recommended 3-in-1 oil,

but it is not working.  My son has 3 on his fingers on his right hand.  They

are in the way.  Thanks.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:11:24 EDT

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From:         "Marlene J. Stern" <mstern@LINDSAY.PRINCETON.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts



My daughter suffers from warts on her larynx and vocal cords

(recurrent respiratory papillomatosis) and underwent 11 operations

under general anesthesia in less than 9 months to remove them.  They

grew back as quickly as they were removed.  Long Island Jewish

Medical Center is doing a study using cabbage juice.  We began giving

our daughter 4-6 ounces of savoy cabbage juice daily and she went

into remission.  She has been in remission now with no surgeries for

2 years.We don't know for sure whether the cabbage has caused the

remission but we're not going to stop it.    We have recently come in

contact with a source to obtain the powder indole-3-carbinol which we

now add to apple of orange juice.  It is the indole 3 carbinol that

they feel has an effect on reducing wart growth.  An HPV specialist

we know began drinking cabbage juice after she heard about Lindsay,

and she said some warts she had on her hand became red and fell off.

This is all experimental research, but it might be worth giving it a

try since it's not harmful. Our Foundation's newsletter has an

article explaining the research.  Subscriptions to the twice yearly

newsletter are available for $15.00/yr.   Marlene Stern, Recurrent

Respiratory Papillomatosis Foundation, 50 Wesleyan Drive, Hamilton

Sq.  NJ  08690  609-900-0502.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         Bill Upton-Knittle <EIW8BUK@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts



> I need to know herbal remedies for warts.  Someone recommended 3-in-1 oil,

> but it is not working.  My son has 3 on his fingers on his right hand.  They

> are in the way.  Thanks.



Warts respond quite well to suggestion.



When I was in college and had a couple burned off, my about-to-retire older

physician told me "the way we used to get rid of warts in the old days":



They would blindfold the person, then stick a needle into the wart and at

the same time stick a wooden tongue depressor into a spinning fan. He said

they would then take the blindfold off and tell the person the wart would

shrink by itself and disappear within a week or so. (He told me it had

never failed)!



   Bill Knittle (eiw8buk@mvs.oac.ucla.edu)



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From:         Lesley Gibbs <GIBBS@MIDD.CC.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts



My friend told me that vit. E (break the gel capsule open, and

spread the oil on the wart) was supposed to work.

I have not tried this myself, but it doesn't seem

like it could hurt to try.  Perhaps covering

with a bandaid after applying would be useful, so

that the stuff doesn't stain.



Please let us know what works.

good luck,

lesley



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         "Betty G. Ash, CUER,

              University of Louisville" <BGASH001@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts

In-Reply-To:  note of 09/27/94 12:13



Marlene: Where do you get cabbage juice? Do you make your own with a machine?

Does any kind of cabbage work or only savoy?



Betty in Fern Creek



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:43:20 +0300

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From:         joel tarnopolsky <msjtarno@PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL>

Subject:      Re: warts

In-Reply-To:  <9409271414.AA42469@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il>



I read in one of the "Herbal Gram" magazine about avery good results with

sesame flowers tincture used locally. try it. good luck! Dr jacubovich

Ruben.



On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Nancy Feraldi wrote:



> I need to know herbal remedies for warts.Someone recommended 3-in-1 oil,

> but it is not working.My son has 3 on his fingers on his right hand.  They

> are in the way.Thanks.

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:01:36 EDT

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From:         "Marlene J. Stern" <mstern@LINDSAY.PRINCETON.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts



Betty,



We make our own cabbage juice with an inexpensive vegetable juicer

(we purchased a Braun for under $50).  Savoy cabbage has 10 times

more indole 3 carbinol than regular cabbage, so we use savoy.  We

juice about 4 or 5 heads at a time, freeze the juice into ice cube

trays, and when frozen put it in tupperware containers in the

freezer.  Whenever we give Lindsay orange or apple juice, we throw a

couple of cubes in.  She gets about 4 cubes a day.  Marlene



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 08:50:20 +1000

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From:         Petra Hinds <Petra.Hinds@ADMIN.UTAS.EDU.AU>

Subject:      Re: warts



>I need to know herbal remedies for warts.  Someone recommended 3-in-1 oil,

>but it is not working.  My son has 3 on his fingers on his right hand.  They

>are in the way.  Thanks.



Try the oil from lemon peel.  The aromatherapy type essence is good too but

using lemon skin and squeezing out the oil on to the wart works ok too. Its

good for cold sores too.



Petra



PS For warts on the bottom of your feet try tea tree oil.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:20:26 +0800

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From:         Tod Bjorkman <tbjorkm@NMA.MNET.USWEST.COM>

Subject:      Varicose Veins



Please Help!



        Does anybody know what herbs help varicose viens ?



        I was listening to a talk radio show and a caller

        was saying she had almost eliminated her vericose

        viens, but I didn't get the name of the herbs.



 

        Has anybody had experience with this ?



Tod Bjorkman

tbjorkm@nma.mnet.uswest.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:31:42 -0400

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From:         Maria Turco <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      Green Tea



   I'm very curious if there is a difference between Chinese and

Japonese `Green Tea'.



   I recently bought a tin of tea leaves from a chinese restaurant in

which the tea leaves are loose.  I think it also said "Special

Chunmee" on the tin.  When I made the tea though, it was more like

yellow-brown than green.  Yet I know that a friend of mine has a

Japonese Green Tea which is green.



   Can anyone explain this phenomenon to me?  If my Chinese Green Tea

is not stale, and is normally this color, please tell me.  Also, I am

interested in knowing what each is good for (the Chinese and Japonese

varieties), and any effects they may have on the body.



   Please advise and thank you in advance!

             - Maria

`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'

`' Maria A. Turco              Seton Hall Law School            `'

`' turcomar@lanmail.shu.edu     Newark, New Jersey              `'

`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:35:35 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Varicose Veins

In-Reply-To:  <199409272319.AA07720@mail.crl.com>



On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Tod Bjorkman wrote:



>         I was listening to a talk radio show and a caller

>         was saying she had almost eliminated her vericose

>         viens, but I didn't get the name of the herbs.



** Always a great source of medical and herbal knowledge; Talk Shows.

    Anyway, Bilberry, Huckleberry, and their leaves have been shown

    to be superior in dealing with varicose veins. Bilberry is easily

    accessed in capsules from most health food stores. They have many

    benefits besides the anti-varicosity but that is one aspect that

    I have seen to be dramatic.



Rob



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:41:02 -0700

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Green Tea

In-Reply-To:  <199409280028.AA16656@mail.crl.com>



On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Maria Turco wrote:



> interested in knowing what each is good for (the Chinese and Japonese

> varieties), and any effects they may have on the body.



** I wouldn't give my dog <if I had a dog> tea from China or Japan.

   Both spray incredible amounts of insecticides on their tea plants

   weeks before harvest. Also the teas of Assam and Southern Nepal

   practically enslave small children in the fields to pick the leaves.

   Many health food stores carry green teas that are a bit more....

   conscientiously grown and harvested. The active constituents of green

   tea, polyphenols, inhibit viruses, are natural blood thinners,

   have been shown to lower cholesterol and are very powerful anti-

   oxidants. But then again if you're imbibing high levels of DDT

   <still used in China> or etc <many used in Japan> then you'd be

   much better off playing Russian roulette with yourself.

   Find a good, organic brand <they _do_ exist> and stock up. The

   prices will go up. And they are already high for organic green tea.



   Check out:



                Wang, Z. H..; 1992: CANCER RESEARCH:52(march):1162-70

and

                Zhao, B..;

                Li, X.

                He, R.

                Cheng, S.

                Wenjuan, X.; 1989: CELL BIOPHYSICS:14(2):175



Available from American Institute of Research Archives



---



"Ever wonder why all the good research on herbs comes from elsewhere?"



                                                        -- Andy Rooney



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Green Tea

In-Reply-To:  <199409280028.AA16656@mail.crl.com>



Also don't forget; with all the pressure to get more harvest out of

the tea decks owners are more likely to use MORE chemicals to rid

themselves of any possible insect predation.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         "Brian K. Koster" <aj682@LEO.NMC.EDU>

Subject:      Help?!?!?



Can anyone give me the Internet address of our listowner?



I seem to have a problem with getting unsubscribed on a regular basis and

I would like to try and track down the problem.



Thanx



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      Brian K. Koster            |     Northwestern Michigan College

      Holland, Michigan          |      Traverse City, Michigan

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:01:56 EDT

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From:         Joe Hill <SBJHILL@ECUVM1.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: Green Tea

In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue,

              27 Sep 1994 20:31:42 -0400 from <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>



Green tea is supposedly very good as a cacer preventitive, people in Japan who

drank at least eight small cups per day had a much lower incidence of cancer. I

 don't know if there is any difference betwwen Japanese and Chinese tea, and I

am using a green tea sold by lipton's, Its much cheaper and readily available,

in the herbal tea section of my supermarket.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:29:14 -0400

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From:         Sarah Bracken <sbracken@EMR.CA>

Subject:      Re: warts

In-Reply-To:  <9409280309.AA06888@emr1.emr.ca> from "Nancy Feraldi" at Sep 27,

              94 10:08:52 am



 I have heard that applying Tea Tree Oil (an essential oil) is good as it is

 anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti- sometingelse!



 Sarah



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:13:48 -0500

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From:         Kay Softley <ksoftley@NS.CCSN.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts

In-Reply-To:  <9409281633.AA12572@ccsn.edu>



Can someone please give some more information on the Tea Tree Oil, would

we know it by another name.

Kay Softley

ksoftley@ns.ccsn.edu



 

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Sarah Bracken wrote:



>  I have heard that applying Tea Tree Oil (an essential oil) is good as it is

>  anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti- sometingelse!

>

>  Sarah

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         Melissa Haertsch <WHITTAKERS1@LION.UOFS.EDU>

Subject:      SIGN-OFF



SIGN-OFF HERB  WHITTAKERS1@LION.UOFS.EDU



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: warts

In-Reply-To:  <m0qpeCN-0005ruC@pacifier.com>



On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Nancy Feraldi wrote:



> I need to know herbal remedies for warts.  Someone recommended 3-in-1 oil,

> but it is not working.  My son has 3 on his fingers on his right hand.  They

> are in the way.  Thanks.



 

My copy of Richters herb catalog arrived as I saw this message ($2, via

richter@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca).  Pg 52 has PIG'S EAR (Cotyledon spp.),

"Excellent wart remedy, widely recommended even by medical doctors ..."

They sell seed, and don't say how long it takes to grow.



Jack vL



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From:         CAROL CROSBY <GRCC1@DIN.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts



You can find Tea Tree Oil in most health food stores in samll bottles.  It

costs about $5 or $6.  Several companies market it but it is always

labelled Tea Tree Oil and works wonders on infections, toenail fungus

and cuts - but I didn't realize it also helped cure warts!



Carol



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From:         Damaris Silveira Duarte <LYCHNOS@BRUFMG.BITNET>

Subject:      varicose vein



Tod,



    Good herbs to help varicose vein should be flavonoids rich. This kind

of substances is responsable by yellow and red colour in flowers and fruits.

So if you eat citric fruits, it will improve your veins.

    Some herbs are good:



                      Ruta graveolens

                      Rosmarinus officinallis

                      Polligonum acre and other species

                      Dimorphandra mollis



     There are a lot of other herbs. More informations, please, send me

private e-mail.

       But, BE CAREFUL!!!  These herbs can be dangerous.

       Ask your doctor before use, ok?



                                  Damaris

                                  Lychnos@brufmg.bitnet



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From:         Bonnie Wiseman <YE65@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      varicose veins



Altho I have not been using it long enough myself to notice a

difference, Centella Asaitica is supposed to "exert a normalizing action

on the metabolism of connective tissue." Also supposed to be beneficial

to reduce cellulite!!  Taken from Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine, Page

201.  Authors Michael Murray, N.D. and Joseph Pizzorno, N.D.  Bonnie.



Bonnie Wiseman

Healthy Habits - Big Rapids Michigan

YE65@Music.Ferris.Edu



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From:         Roger Claus <CLAUS@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>

Subject:      Aloe Vera



Does anyone know a phone number for Golden Aloe in San Marcos, CA

They put out Essence of Aloe Vera - IMHO the best- but are not listed

in the phone book.  Any info would be most appreciated.

Thank you

Ellen (claus) Koch



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From:         Debbie Adams <O1ADAMS@AKRONVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Submit



Please submit



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Date:         Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:41:16 +1000

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From:         Petra Hinds <Petra.Hinds@ADMIN.UTAS.EDU.AU>

Subject:      Re: warts



>You can find Tea Tree Oil in most health food stores in samll bottles.  It

>costs about $5 or $6.  Several companies market it but it is always

>labelled Tea Tree Oil and works wonders on infections, toenail fungus

>and cuts - but I didn't realize it also helped cure warts!

>

>Carol



As far a I have been told TTO cures only Planter warts as they are

apparently caused by fungus.  TTO is a great anti-fungicide.



Petra



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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: varicose vein

In-Reply-To:  <199409281923.AA04546@mail.crl.com>



You left out the only herb that is safe to take and has proven to reverse

varicosities in research; Bilberry <Huckleberry>. Vaccinium Myrtillus.

In 1993 there was published an interesting report on the effects of Biblerry

on venous disorders. "Vaccinium Myrtillus' anthocyanosides has proven a

consistency in increasing the acetylcholine-induced relaxation of isolated

coronary vessels" [Fitoterapia 1993:64:45-57] The good news here is that it

proves the efficacy of anthocyanosides in repairing capillary leakage and

improving and reversing varicose and "spider" veins BECAUSE of it's ability

to increase blood supply as well as repair the intergrity of the vesel walls.



Bilberry is also safe as a long term treatment.



Rob



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From:         Silvia Loomis <loomiss@BELNET.BELLEVUE.K12.WA.US>

Subject:      List Address



Some folks are having problems with the bitnet

address. Try :



                 listserv@vm3090.ege.edu.tr



for the usual subscribe/unsubscribe stuff.



Silvia

loomiss@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us



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From:         Charles Hillen <CFH200U@ODUVM.CC.ODU.EDU>

Subject:      Other name for Tea Tree Oil



Hi All,       In response to the lady that asked under what other name

Tea (or Ti) Tree Oil could be found, I'm writing to say it's Melaleuca

Oil (pron. mella-luka).  Melaleuca is the first part of the tree's

botanical name.  It's something like melaleuca alternifolia, I think.

Anyway, I heard it called Melaleuca Oil for a long time before I heard



Ciao,



Charles Hillen

cfh200u@oduvm.cc.odu.edu



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From:         "Sidney R. Smith" <smiths@FORD.AERO.ORG>

Subject:      Re: warts



I have also heard that this Tea Tree Oil has these qualities. Australia

is a common source of the product. A Utah, USA; company, Melaluca, has several

soaps and products based on it. If interested, I can get you more

details. Sid. smiths@ford.aero.org



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From:         Bonnie Wiseman <YE65@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      Re[2]: warts

In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of WED 28 SEP 1994 19:11:20 EDT



There are numerous other companies with products containing Tea Tree

Oil, Thursday Plantation, Dessert Essence, to name a couple. " The

Melaluca" company you mentioned is Multi level Marketing, if you're into

that, but they have good products ( a little pricey compared to the two

 I mentioned, IMO)



 



 



 

>I have also heard that this Tea Tree Oil has these qualities. Australia

>is a common source of the product. A Utah, USA; company, Melaluca, has several

>soaps and products based on it. If interested, I can get you more

>details. Sid. smiths@ford.aero.org



Bonnie Wiseman

Healthy Habits - Big Rapids Michigan

YE65@Music.Ferris.Edu



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From:         Maria Turco <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      warts



hello everyone!



I have an idea I have heard of from a couple of different places - to

rid oneself of a wart, simply crush a clove of garlic, apply to the

wart, and perhaps cover with a bandiad.  I hear that you are to leave

this on and it will blister, but the skin peels off and the warts

never return!



It's worth a shot - Good luck!



...Maria

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`' Maria A. Turco                    Seton Hall Law School  `'

`' turcomar@lanmail.shu.edu          Newark, New Jersey     `'

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From:         CFH200U@SHAKESPEARE.LIB.ODU.EDU

Subject:      Other Name for Ti Tree Oil



The name I always heard for Ti Tree Oil is Melaleuca Oil.  Whatever you call

it, it's marvelous stuff.



I have a question for the list.  I see several references to Wood Sorrel as

a beneficial herb, but not for it's larger relative, the Shamrock (also an

oxalis).  What gives?  Are shamrock leaves edible?  I bit into one and it

tasted sour just like regular wood sorrel.  I think the Shamrock leaves are

just perfect for garnishes but I don't want to poison anyone.



Charlie Hillen, Library Assistant            "Never become irritable waiting

Old Dominion University                  for things to get better.  If you'll

cfh200u@oduvm.cc.odu.edu                 be patient, you'll find you can wait

                                         much faster."   --Unknown Author



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From:         Woody McCandlish <MCCANDLISH%SMCCVA@SNYCENVA.BITNET>

Subject:      dioscorea



Does anyone know how I could get ahold of some dioscorea, "mexican yams"?

Is there an herb mail order catalog?                            woody



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From:         Karen McCandlish <MCCANDLISH%SMCCVA@SNYCENVA.BITNET>

Subject:      dioscorea, mexican yam



My apoligizes if this when to the list before.  I wasn't sure.

Does anyone know if there is a herb mail order catalog where I could get

a plant called dioscorea, or "mexican yam"?  Or is it illegal?

I've called the herb store in town and they don't carry it.

                                                K. McCandlish



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From:         "s.i. sussman" <ssussman@JULIAN.UWO.CA>

Subject:      Re: varicose vein

In-Reply-To:  <9409291545.AA12294@julian.uwo.ca>



So what do you do ???Inject into the veins take tablets ???SS



 



So On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Rob Bidleman wrote:



> You left out the only herb that is safe to take and has proven to reverse

> varicosities in research; Bilberry <Huckleberry>. Vaccinium Myrtillus.

> In 1993 there was published an interesting report on the effects of Biblerry

> on venous disorders. "Vaccinium Myrtillus' anthocyanosides has proven a

> consistency in increasing the acetylcholine-induced relaxation of isolated

> coronary vessels" [Fitoterapia 1993:64:45-57] The good news here is that it

> proves the efficacy of anthocyanosides in repairing capillary leakage and

> improving and reversing varicose and "spider" veins BECAUSE of it's ability

> to increase blood supply as well as repair the intergrity of the vesel walls.

>

> Bilberry is also safe as a long term treatment.

>

> Rob

>



Dr.Sam Sussman,                                 Sam Sussman

Director,Social Services,                       1532 Hillside Drive

London Psychiatric Hospital,                    London,Ontario,Canada

850 Highbury Avenue,                            N6G4M4

London,Ontario,Canada-N6A4H1                    Telephone and Fax-519-858-0023

Assistant Professor of Psychiatry,              (the above-RESIDENCE-)

University of Western Ontario                   or

Fax:519-455-9986(Canada country code first)     P.O.Box 612212,

Tel: 519-455-5110 ex.2244                       Port Huron,Michigan,U.S.A.

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From:         Bonnie Wiseman <YE65@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU>

Subject:      Re: dioscorea, mexican yam

In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of THU 29 SEP 1994 07:01:19 EDT



It's not illegal!  Several companies manufacture it.  I am familiar with

 three... Solaray, Enzymatic Therapy, Nature's Answer.



 



 



 



 

>My apoligizes if this when to the list before.  I wasn't sure.

>Does anyone know if there is a herb mail order catalog where I could get

>a plant called dioscorea, or "mexican yam"?  Or is it illegal?

>I've called the herb store in town and they don't carry it.

>                                                K. McCandlish



Bonnie Wiseman

Healthy Habits - Big Rapids Michigan

YE65@Music.Ferris.Edu



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From:         Lesley Gibbs <GIBBS@MIDD.CC.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>

Subject:      Re: warts

 

>I have an idea I have heard of from a couple of different places - to

rid oneself of a wart, simply crush a clove of garlic, apply to the

wart, and perhaps cover with a bandiad.<



I've done this.  It hurts.  The skin is burned by the garlic

and it feels like anyother burn you've ever had pretty much.

I got scared when I did this to myself, the skin did blister,

and eventually healed, and *several months later* that wart

did disappear.  Just figured I'd lend my experiential anecdote

to the thread.  BTW, I left the garlic on just overnight, I couldn't

take it any longer than that.  It is pretty strong stuff. L



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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Other Name for Ti Tree Oil

In-Reply-To:  <199409291743.AA28500@mail.crl.com>



On Thu, 29 Sep 1994 CFH200U@SHAKESPEARE.LIB.ODU.EDU wrote:



> The name I always heard for Ti Tree Oil is Melaleuca Oil.  Whatever you call

> it, it's marvelous stuff.



** It's not any better than cedar oil or a dozen other arbor oils. It's

another 'designer' herb foisted on people as an exotic by profiteers.

It's gone by three or four other names in the past ten years and was sold

for about $12- a gallon. Now it's put into tiny bottles with 'SouthWest'

decor and sold as something besides turpentine which it resembls in action.

Marvelous stuff? So is Walnut oil and it's ten times as effective as Tea

Tree oil for fungal infections, plus you can get a lifetime supply of it

for $30- <about a gallon>. Or St. John's Wort Oil? Now there's an herb you

probably crush everytime you go for a stroll in the countryside. Worried

about 'spider veins'? St. John's Oil is great for that as well as many other

skin injuries. And guess what? It's only about $12- for a half gallon.

I could go on but I feel I've made a case for researching your own herbal

remedies. If you let marketers package these exotic herbs for exotic ills

you'll end up waking up some morning rubbing some odd tasting stuff on

your gums and wondering what it is. Money well spent is on ONE book rather

than a dozen boxes of the latest foo-foo juice.            ^^^



 

> just perfect for garnishes but I don't want to poison anyone.



 

Rob



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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: dioscorea, mexican yam

In-Reply-To:  <199409291904.AA12068@mail.crl.com>



On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, Karen McCandlish wrote:



> My apoligizes if this when to the list before.  I wasn't sure.

> Does anyone know if there is a herb mail order catalog where I could get

> a plant called dioscorea, or "mexican yam"?  Or is it illegal?



** Dioscorea Villosa - Try Richter's -  (905) 640-6677  $58- per Kg



Rob



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From:         Rob Bidleman <robbee@CRL.COM>

Subject:      Re: varicose vein

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.3.88.9409291539.C27664-0100000@julian.uwo.ca>



On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, s.i. sussman wrote:



> So what do you do ???Inject into the veins take tablets ???SS



** When was the last time you heard of herbs being injected?

   If you're so imprisoned by seeing medication as either IV or

   capsuled/tableted by some manufacturer, then you could benefit

   from some updates.



> Dr.Sam Sussman,                                       Sam Sussman

> Director,Social Services,                     1532 Hillside Drive

> London Psychiatric Hospital,                  London,Ontario,Canada

> 850 Highbury Avenue,                          N6G4M4

> London,Ontario,Canada-N6A4H1                  Telephone and Fax-519-858-0023

> Assistant Professor of Psychiatry,            (the above-RESIDENCE-)

> University of Western Ontario                 or

> Fax:519-455-9986(Canada country code first)   P.O.Box 612212,

> Tel: 519-455-5110 ex.2244                     Port Huron,Michigan,U.S.A.

>                                               48061-2212

>

>



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Date:         Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:11:08 +1000

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From:         Petra Hinds <Petra.Hinds@ADMIN.UTAS.EDU.AU>

Subject:      Re: varicose vein



>On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, s.i. sussman wrote:

>

>> So what do you do ???Inject into the veins take tablets ???SS

>

>** When was the last time you heard of herbs being injected?

>   If you're so imprisoned by seeing medication as either IV or

>   capsuled/tableted by some manufacturer, then you could benefit

>   from some updates.



Another ever so positive and helpful remark from RoB.

Petra



My mum used to say if you can't say something nice then don't

say anything at all. - But she isn't here at the moment!



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On Fri, 30 Sep 1994, Petra Hinds wrote:



> >> So what do you do ???Inject into the veins take tablets ???SS

> >

> >** When was the last time you heard of herbs being injected?



> Another ever so positive and helpful remark from RoB.



** Here's another --  Read the post before you reply --



Rob



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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: dioscorea, mexican yam

In-Reply-To:  <m0qqQnm-0005s3C@pacifier.com>



Richters mail order catalog, pg 71, has WILD YAM which sounds like what

you may be looking for.  Also CINNAMON YAM, with edible tubers.

(905) 640-6677 or richter@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca



> My apoligizes if this when to the list before.  I wasn't sure.

> Does anyone know if there is a herb mail order catalog where I could get

> a plant called dioscorea, or "mexican yam"?  Or is it illegal?

> I've called the herb store in town and they don't carry it.

>                                                 K. McCandlish

>



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From:         Karen McCandlish <MCCANDLISH%SMCCVA@SNYCENVA.BITNET>

Subject:      muari puama



Does anyone have information on where I can order som muira puama?

The Herb store in our neighborhood just moved/went out of business?

                                                K. McCandlish



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Subject:      recipes for tempeh?



I am looking for recipes for tempeh, tofu and soybeans.  Would anybody

like to share some with me?

                                                K. McCandlish



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From:         Kevin Parker <KMP@UNIVERSITY.OFFICES>

Organization: University of Oxford

Subject:      Re: Other Name for Ti Tree Oil



Rob said :

> Money well spent is on ONE book rather

> than a dozen boxes of the latest foo-foo juice.



Pretty much EVERY  use that I have put Tea-Tree oil to  has been

"stunningly" successful - I say that reservedly, because it is so

difficult to identify the precise cause of a "cure". So far, a fairly

positive correlation - to the extent that I would certainly use it

( for myself ) for any overt fungal/bacterial/viral ( is that broad

enough :) ) applications. However, I have heard of many miraculous

claims for the pure essential oil that seem a trifle far fetched - it

would be very nice if they were all true !

You mention reference to good spending on one reference book;  with

the amazing fluctuation of research and opinions in this field, can

you recommend a definitive research article for Tea Tree oil that

you can apply a guarantee to before it is swamped by new

research, paradigms, etc.

I would also be interested to hear if anyone likes the smell of the

stuff - I hated it at first, but now  it has an appealing fragrance

to it. I am unsure as to whether this is due to a predominance of

different odoriferous constituents or due to my acclimatisation. Any

opinions anyone ?



Cheers,

Kev.



 



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From:         Sarah Bracken <sbracken@EMR.CA>

Subject:      Tea Tree Oil

In-Reply-To:  <9409292253.AA02589@emr1.emr.ca> from "Bonnie Wiseman" at Sep 29,

              94 09:42:02 am



>

> There are numerous other companies with products containing Tea Tree

> Oil...



Although no expert, I am aware of tea tree in two forms, one being an

essential oil, the other in a water based solution.  If someone was to use

it for "infection" on skin like acne, the essential oil would

seem the better candidate as it is both safe and effective in my experience,

when used in *moderation*.  I use the water soluble one, however, diluted in

water for a mouthwash and to clean my toothbrush.  I rememer how, after

having my wisdom teeth removed, part of my gums seemed to be infected.  I

rinsed with this solution and/or applied directly on gums (the water soluble

one) and the infection went away.



The reason I am babbling on like this is if one were to use it, do you think

one should be concerned whether the essential oil would be too strong

while the water soluble one too weak?  Any comments?



Sarah

sbracken@emr1.emr.ca



