



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 13:33:00 EST

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From:         Judy <JBAYLISS@PSUHMC.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: psc

In-Reply-To:  Message of Fri, 31 Mar 1995 12:12:54 -0500 from

            <callowa3@PILOT.MSU.EDU>



Is there another, more common name some of us might know it by?  I, for one,

have never heard of it, and can't even hazard a guess as to what it is.

my layman medical knowledge is pretty varied!



Judy



On Fri, 31 Mar 1995 12:12:54 -0500 Cheryl Calloway said:

>Several weeks ago I attempted to post a message asking if anyone had any herbal

>suggestions for dealing with primary scerlosing cholangitis. To date, I have

>received no response - not even a question or statement saying no one has

>ideas.

>

>In case this got lost, or something, I'm trying again. Please feel free to

>respond to me directly.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Chere Calloway [callowa3@pilot.msu.edu]

>    psc

>ok





JBAYLISS@PSUHMC

JBAYLISS@PSUHMC.HMC.PSU.EDU

NHFK34A@PRODIGY.COM



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 1995 08:51:26 EST

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From:         Paul Schwartz <a0207006@DLEP1.ITG.TI.COM>

Subject:      Re: Black/green tea

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



On Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:20:27 -0500 Rick Scott wrote:



>Fellow cyberherbophiles,

>

>I've read so many conflicting reports on the benefit/harm of drinking

>black/green tea.

>

>* The caffeine in tea is about 50% that of coffee, so it's not nearly as bad

>as coffee.

>* Even this much caffeine, however, can overstimulate/drain the adrenals.

>* The caffeine in tea is water-soluble, therefore is purged more quickly

>than coffee's.

>* Black/green tea is full of bioflavonoids, which we all know are good

>(don't we?).

>* Black/green tea is full of tannin.

>  - Tannin is good (say some).

>  - Tannin is poison (say others).

>

>My question: Does 1 (occasionally 2) cups of strong black/green tea every

>day do more harm

>than good? My (possibly) negative symptoms: rare hyperstimulation,

>occasional slightly irregular

>heartbeat (which pretty much disappears when I stop the tea). My positive

>symptoms: the utter

>joy of a good cup of tea!

>

>I'd appreciate all of your comments/expertise.

>

>Thanks!

>

>Rick Scott

>

>

I have been drinking green tea for years with no observed bad effects.  I read/heard somewhere that it lowers the risk of heart attacks and/or strokes.



It IS very pleasing.



Paul :)`



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:25:18 +0200

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From:         joel tarnopolsky <msjtarno@PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL>

Subject:      uncaria tomentosa



I'm a medical doctor, at this moment I'm not subscribed to your list, but

I'm interested to ask about this herb named Uncaria Tomentosa, in English

is Cat's claw, I read in an article written by Phillip Steinberg in the

Townsend Letter for doctors.It's seems to have a big ptential for

different ailments. I decided to bring some samples to Israel, for some

patients but it's is retained at this moment by the health ministery.

If anyone has information about it I'll be glad to recieve it, I think

it's imported as a food product in USA, but they want here the relevant

documents. I'm treating at this moment a woman suffering from breast

cancer with multiple metastases that refused chemotherapy, she is

improving with a combined treatment,feels much better, and I want to try

this herb.

My second question is about a tour concerning tropical rainforest herbs

in Costa rica, anounced by the American Botanical Council, in 8/95. I

tried to contact them, if anyone has details about it I'll be glad to know.

please send to my e-mail because I'm not subscribed at this moment.

The third thing: we are having amazing results treating allergic rhinitis

with panthotenic acid(vit b5) 2 capsules a day. if anyone has the same

results please notice me.

                                     thanks all

                               Dr Jacubovich Ruben MD



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:02:31 EST

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From:         Carolyn McLaughlin <D700047@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: sprouting avacodo

In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue, 28 Mar 1995 02:06:02 -0500 from

            <geostar@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG>



Turn seed with pointed end down, insert wooden tooth picks around the center of

the seed to keep half the seed out of the water and the other half submerged in

water.  Set seed in the top of a jar of water that accomodates the seed size so

the point is in the water about and inch or more.  Just keep water level touchi

ng seed and set in a sunny window.  Eventually it will open and sprout.  Later

you can plant in the ground but it won't take frost so you may want to keep in

a pot.  Very attractive plant.  To get avacadoes, besides being a very long

time, you may have to graph with a fruit bearing tree.  Mostly, it is just for

appearance.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:29:03 -0600

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From:         Alissa Sorenson <sorenson@QNS.COM>

Subject:      Re: sprouting avacodo

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <HERB%95040123301472@VM.EGE.EDU.TR> from "Carolyn McLaughlin" at

            Mar 31, 95 02:02:31 pm



>

> Turn seed with pointed end down, insert wooden tooth picks around the center of

> the seed to keep half the seed out of the water and the other half submerged in

> water.  Set seed in the top of a jar of water that accomodates the seed size so

> the point is in the water about and inch or more.  Just keep water level touchi

> ng seed and set in a sunny window.  Eventually it will open and sprout.  Later

> you can plant in the ground but it won't take frost so you may want to keep in

> a pot.  Very attractive plant.  To get avacadoes, besides being a very long

> time, you may have to graph with a fruit bearing tree.  Mostly, it is just for

> appearance.

>

Thanks for this.  I have been trying to germinate avocado for about a year

now, with no luck.  A friend told me to do it just the way you've described,

but to keep the seed in the dark until it sprouts, and then give it sun.

What do you think about this?  Probably the reason its never worked for me?

(But it worked for her, continuously!)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:08:12 +0000

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From:         Jonathan Treasure <jtreasure@JONNO.DEMON.CO.UK>

Subject:      re psc

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



>Several weeks ago I attempted to post a message asking if anyone had any herbal

>suggestions for dealing with primary scerlosing cholangitis. To date, I have

>received no response - not even a question or statement saying no one has

>ideas.



can i suggest the reasons for this?

1. This list is  composed primarily of lay people with  interests in

various aspects of medical herbs, growing them, harvesting them, consuming

them for their health etc etc. and exchanging info on such matters. This is

NOT a list of professionally trained or qualified herbalists or

naturopathic practitioners, although a few lurk hereabouts. Ask medical

questions here at your own risk - would you ask at your local garden centre

or seed shop?

2. You have presented orthodox medical terminology for a condition which

you may or may not be suffering from. Most people here don't have a clue

about cholangitis, let alone whether it is due to sclerosis or not. In

addition - who says the diagnosis is corect anyway? You have not given your

symptoms, test or lab results, or case history. Differential diagnosis?

3. Herbal medicine is by definition wholistic, and does not simply use

plants as *natural* alternatives to  allopathic drugs.   There are herbs

that can be used to help with the pain of  cholangitis, but they are

ivariably used as part of a treatment protocol for the whole

hepatic-biliary axis, which surely must be in an imbalanced condition for

cholangitis - a resultant symptom - to occur. In turn , the approach would

depend on detailed consideration of your typology, history etc.

4. I would suggest you consult a naturopathic practitioner, or a medically

qualified herbalist,

the latter being hard to find in USA since they are not *legally*

recognised, if you are serious about addressing your condition with

complementary/alternative methods. The good people of this list should not

be expected to provide you with answers.

Jonathan Treasure



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 1995 20:51:38 -0400

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From:         "Michael A. Reynolds" <ak654@DETROIT.FREENET.ORG>

Subject:      Re: uncaria tomentosa

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



To anyone answering Dr. Ruben's questions regarding Cat's Claw

(u. tomentosa):



Please post your answers to the Herb list as well.  I, for one,

am also interested in this herb.



Thanks!



--

p

x



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:45:41 -0400

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From:         Cheryl Calloway <callowa3@PILOT.MSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: re psc

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <9504022105.aa12841@post.demon.co.uk> from "Jonathan Treasure" at

            Apr 2, 95 09:08:12 pm



Jonathan:



Sorry that my request was a source of such irritation for you. If more

information is needed, or no one was aware of herbal remedies which might be

appropriate, or wanted to suggest (as you did) a particular type of medical

practitioner, that's fine. My experience had been that the "good people of

this list" attempted to be helpful, and in my case, there was not even

acknowledgement of the request for assistance. So, I thought perhaps the

message had not been received.



Sorry to have been such a burden.



Chere Calloway



>

> >Several weeks ago I attempted to post a message asking if anyone had any herb

al

> >suggestions for dealing with primary scerlosing cholangitis. To date, I have

> >received no response - not even a question or statement saying no one has

> >ideas.

>

> can i suggest the reasons for this?

> 1. This list is  composed primarily of lay people with  interests in

> various aspects of medical herbs, growing them, harvesting them, consuming

> them for their health etc etc. and exchanging info on such matters. This is

> NOT a list of professionally trained or qualified herbalists or

> naturopathic practitioners, although a few lurk hereabouts. Ask medical

> questions here at your own risk - would you ask at your local garden centre

> or seed shop?

> 2. You have presented orthodox medical terminology for a condition which

> you may or may not be suffering from. Most people here don't have a clue

> about cholangitis, let alone whether it is due to sclerosis or not. In

> addition - who says the diagnosis is corect anyway? You have not given your

> symptoms, test or lab results, or case history. Differential diagnosis?

> 3. Herbal medicine is by definition wholistic, and does not simply use

> plants as *natural* alternatives to  allopathic drugs.   There are herbs

> that can be used to help with the pain of  cholangitis, but they are

> ivariably used as part of a treatment protocol for the whole

> hepatic-biliary axis, which surely must be in an imbalanced condition for

> cholangitis - a resultant symptom - to occur. In turn , the approach would

> depend on detailed consideration of your typology, history etc.

> 4. I would suggest you consult a naturopathic practitioner, or a medically

> qualified herbalist,

> the latter being hard to find in USA since they are not *legally*

> recognised, if you are serious about addressing your condition with

> complementary/alternative methods. The good people of this list should not

> be expected to provide you with answers.

> Jonathan Treasure

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:15:30 -0500

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From:         Al Clark <clarkja@NDLC.OCC.UKY.EDU>

Subject:      Re: uncaria tomentosa

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.bitnet@UKCC.uky.edu

In-Reply-To:  <199504030051.UAA05401@detroit.freenet.org> from "Michael A.

            Reynolds" at Apr 2, 95 08:51:38 pm



Here's a phone number I saw in an advertisment for anyone to call

to find out where the nearest store is located:  407-745-2917

Fax 407-745-3017.....They may have some literature???

Hope this helps. :-)







>

> To anyone answering Dr. Ruben's questions regarding Cat's Claw

> (u. tomentosa):

>

> Please post your answers to the Herb list as well.  I, for one,

> am also interested in this herb.

>

> Thanks!

>

> --

> p

> x

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:52:33 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: relief from muscle spasms

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VM.GMD.DE



I would suggest trying Cramp Bark (Highbush Cranberry, viburnum opulus). I

have used it for leg cramps and menstrual cramps with great success. I makes

a tea of the fresh bark, simmering for about 20 min. The dose is 1/4 cup

every 1/2 hr till symptoms disappear. It usually only takes 1 or two doses.

I drank a whole cupful the first time and just about slid off my chair.

I think dried in capsule form would do as well.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 21:06:24 +0500

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From:         Thomas Nelson <thomn@BEV.NET>

Subject:      Re: What is scullcap and Prickly Ash?

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU>



>Do you have a mail-order catalog? If so, please email.

>Thanks.

>

>--Erin Farquhar     Voice: 408-625-0978    Fax: 408-625-4082

>

Sorry, we don't do mail order (yet).  I can e-mail a plant list if

you're interested, but you'll have to come to Virginia to get

the plants.

Thom Nelson          *The Plant Plant*      >> Specializing in Herbs

thomn@bev.net        *Christiansburg, VA*   >> and Perennials



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 23:22:07 -0800

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From:         James Mally <jmally@CERF.NET>

Subject:      Re: Black/green tea

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>Fellow cyberherbophiles,

>

>I've read so many conflicting reports on the benefit/harm of drinking

>black/green tea.

>

>* The caffeine in tea is about 50% that of coffee, so it's not nearly as bad

>as coffee.

>* Even this much caffeine, however, can overstimulate/drain the adrenals.

>* The caffeine in tea is water-soluble, therefore is purged more quickly

>than coffee's.

>* Black/green tea is full of bioflavonoids, which we all know are good

>(don't we?).

>* Black/green tea is full of tannin.

>  - Tannin is good (say some).

>  - Tannin is poison (say others).

>

>My question: Does 1 (occasionally 2) cups of strong black/green tea every

>day do more harm

>than good? My (possibly) negative symptoms: rare hyperstimulation,

>occasional slightly irregular

>heartbeat (which pretty much disappears when I stop the tea). My positive

>symptoms: the utter

>joy of a good cup of tea!

>

>I'd appreciate all of your comments/expertise.

>

>Thanks!

>

>Rick Scott





Rick,



Green tea would be better for you than the black tea. The roasting process

which makes green tea black makes it somewhat more carcinogenic.



James Mally, N.D.





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:42:00 CET

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From:         Pek Linda <pek@NEPO1.IAEA.OR.AT>

Subject:      Help for hyperactivity



Does anyone know of a tea that would help a hyperactive 11 year old to

concentrate better in the classroom?

A very worried mother,

Linda at

PEK@nepo1.iaea.or.at



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:05:02 -0400

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From:         John Zullo <JSZullo@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



I know of a company that has an essential oil blend called "Peace

and Calming" that was formulated for hyperactive children. Anyone

interested in information can send me their postal address.



John Zullo

jszullo@aol.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 06:08:15 -0700

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From:         Phxhawk <phxhawk@INDIRECT.COM>

Subject:      Re: relief from muscle spasms

Comments: To: Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <01HOS9L55JFMHSMEC9@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



Anita, thanks for the info on Cramp Bark!!



__________________________________________________________________

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are

composed entirely of lost airport luggage."

                                          Mark Russell



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:38:39 EST

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From:         Alberto Dias <acpdias@CI.UMINHO.PT>

Subject:      Re[2]: sprouting avacodo

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



Put your seed in a solution containing 0.5 mg/l of GA3, for three to four days

in a freezer and then seed it.

I have been trying to germinate avocado for about a year

now, with no luck.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:10:25 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VM.GMD.DE



There's different degrees and types of hyperactivity, some are associated

with ADD and learning disabilities. My neighbor has had good luck with

some Homeopathic care. It seems that Food allergies and hypoglycemia are

strongly suspect in this problem. Get a good book about Natural methods

for allergies and follow the dietary instructions. Avoid food additives,

colors, sodapop, chocolate, milk, wheat, eggs and other such foods.

Get the book "Low Blood Sugar and YOu" or "Sugar Blues", you'll find them

enlightening. Avoid sugar like the plague. See that your child has a good

vitamin supplement, preferably with chelated vitamins. A detoxification

program is in order. There are some pretty good commercially available

herbal liver and blood cleansers available. YOu should really consult a

good Naturpath or Homeopathic Physician. There's no reason you should

suffer with this.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 23:29:46 -0500

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From:         Howie Brounstein <HOWIEB@DELPHI.COM>

Subject:      Re: relief from muscle spasms



I use Skullcap for relief of muscle spasms. I find it very effective for most

cases, especially mixed with Valerian. Skullcap seems gentler on your body

than the valerian. Valerian can upset soom tummies.





For Intense Spasms and Cramps

If taken in tincture form, you can hold the undiluted extract under your

tongue until the cramp or spasm stops. If possible.....it can taste strongly

to some. The alcohol in the extract will enter your body quickly.....along

with the constituents of the herb.





Of course, don't look for some herb to do ALL the work. You should at least

stop what you're doing (What were you doing, by the way?), relax, breathe slow

and deep, and consciously try to relax the muscle, while you're holding the

tincture in your mouth.



BTW, if these are re-occurring, check into why. Perhaps a mineral deficiency,

or something else. We need to remember to find out what is wrong before we

treat the symptom.



Howie B



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 1995 20:02:21 -0500

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 1995 06:47:17 -0300

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From:         Jose Carlos da Silva Costa <cscosta@OMEGA.LNCC.BR>

Subject:      Re: Re[2]: sprouting avocado

In-Reply-To:  <9503037969.AA796955241@gwccmail.ci.uminho.pt> from "Alberto

            Dias" at Apr 3, 95 04:38:39 pm



>

> Put your seed in a solution containing 0.5 mg/l of GA3, for three to four days

> in a freezer and then seed it.

> I have been trying to germinate avocado for about a year

> now, with no luck.

>



Have you tried it with plain potatoes and sweet-potatoes (petootie)

in simmilar conditions (half submersed in clean water) ?

They produce abundant leaves and are quite nice to look at.

All the best.



carlos





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:43:44 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Elena Arriaga <EARRIAGA@PBR322.BITNET>

Subject:      North-South America Conference



         The North-South America Conference on Biotechnology =20



                   Conference and Business Forum



                   Cuernavaca,  Morelos, Mexico

                     November 26 - 29, 1995



under the auspices of: The International Committee for

Biotechnology (COBIOTECH) / International Council of Scientific

Unions (ICSU) / Instituto de Biotecnolog=A1a  (IBT) de la=20

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:10:11 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Michael J. Smith" <msmith@OLDCOLO.COM>

Subject:      Thanks for muscle spasm advice

Comments: To: herb%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Thank you to all who sent advice on what I could do about my muscle

spasms.  I have tried all sorts of physical therapist, chiropractors, and

neurologists.  Seems I have permanent damage to a nerve root in my lower

back.  This causes pain and muscle "guarding".  Usually, I can handle it,

but sometimes the muscle spasms wake me up at night.  A speciall thanks

to Anita--I bought some cramp bark and I think its going to help.  Also,

when I was buying the cramp bark at the local herb store I was told that

ground cloves taken interanlly (gel caps) can really help with

neurological pain.  This seems to work for me--thought I'd pass it on.

Thanks again--Candice Smith



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:53:52 PDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         LEWINSON@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU

Subject:      opuntia



Dear netters:

Is anything known on active principles and/or uses of Opuntia spp?

Thank you,

Efraim Lewinsohn



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:32:00 GMT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Linda Fink <linda.fink@OREGON.COM>

Organization: Oregon Interactive

Subject:      Re[2]: sprouting avacodo

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



I was unsuccessful posting to this list last time, but I'll try again.

I am, however, very successful at sprouting avocados. Put them

in moist, sandy soil, flat end down, with about 1/3rd sticking out of

the dirt. Keep moist but not soggy. White mold may grow but just wipe it

off. Depending on the temperature, it may take a month for the shoot

to appear. Don't give up! Only if the seed shrivels should you despair.



Linda Fink in Oregon



>From: Alberto Dias <acpdias@CI.UMINHO.PT>

>To: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

>Date:         Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:38:39 EST

>Subject:      Re[2]: sprouting avacodo



>Put your seed in a solution containing 0.5 mg/l of GA3, for three to four days

>in a freezer and then seed it.

>I have been trying to germinate avocado for about a year

>now, with no luck.

---

~ OLX 2.2 TD ~



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:34:27 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         JUDY BAYLISS <JBAYLISS@PSUHMC.HMC.PSU.EDU>

Subject:      looking for program

Comments: To: HERB@TREARN.hmc.psu.edu



It seems to me, I've seen posts mentioning a PC program you can buy that's

like a comprehensive herb directory, tells what to use for what symptom,

etc.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?  Trying to help the owner of

a new health food store fill in the holes in his knowledge.  He has a lot

of books but would prefer something on his PC.  It would have to be available

on floppy, he doesn't have CD-ROM.  If someone could help me out with this

I'd really appreciate it.  We need the name of the program and an idea of

where to order it.



Thanks,



Judy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:32:38 +0300

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         HeK@HETTA.PP.FI

Subject:      Re: looking for program



>It seems to me, I've seen posts mentioning a PC program you can buy that's

>like a comprehensive herb directory, tells what to use for what symptom,

>

>Judy



Judy,

here's whats on the subject in the next version of the HerbFAQ (out in 2-3

weeks):

quote

==========

5.3 Good Shareware Herbprograms for the PC

-----

Go get these and choose for yourself.



----- CHANGED TEXT:

"Healing Powers of Herbs" by Klaus Hoferichter, found by ftp at

oak.oakland.edu (or mirrors) in /Simtel/msdos/food:

891879 Mar 15 18:00 herbp21.zip

Graphical DOS interface - mouse essential.



----- CHANGED TEXT:

"Herb Power v. 2.0", by Klaus Hoferichter, found by ftp at

oak.oakland.edu (or mirrors) in /Simtel/msdos/food:

795135 Mar 10 18:19 hph2.zip.

Graphical DOS interface - mouse essential.



----- ADDITION:

Demo of the "Herbal Browser", by Marvel C. Stalcup, found at

aol and compuserve:

demoherb.exe (self-extracting file, size 248436).

DOS -interface, mouse recommended but not essential.

Really jiffy jumping function, easy to browse.



----- ADDITION:

"Herbage for DOS v.1.0", by Tim Johnson, found by ftp at

oak.oakland.edu (or mirrors) in Simtel/msdos/biology:

205081 Feb 25 02:15 herbage1.zip.

DOS - interface, no mouse needed.

Nice 'export text' -function.



==========

unquote



All of these have more comprehensive versions you can order from the

respective authors.



In addition there are some CD-Roms about, but I haven't had time to

look at those yet. Any info I can dig up from archives on CD-Roms will

be included in the next version of the FAQ; if any other programs find

their way into afh, the herblist, or my email, and I have time to look

them over, AND they are good, they will be included as well.



Have fun,

HeK

--

Henriette Kress                       HeK@hetta.pp.fi

        Snow and sun today in Helsinki, Finland.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:15:45 CST

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Carla Freeman <cjfreeman@MAIL.MILLIKIN.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Thanks for muscle spasm advice

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>, HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



        Candice:  How often on the clove tabs should you take during

        the day?  My husband suffering from shingles and since

        involves the nerves maybe he could try this? Carla



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:27:33 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Mitch Stargrove <mitch@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Natural Medicine resources on the internet

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



PRESS RELEASE: NATURAL MEDICINE ON THE INTERNET



********************************

CONTACT: MITCHELL STARGROVE (503/228-6851), <mitch@amrta.org>



********************************

NATURAL HEALTH SERVICES AVAILABLE ON INTERNET.



Natural Medicine, Complementary Health Care And Alternative Therapies

http://www.teleport.com:80/~amrta



IBIS, the Interactive BodyMind Information System

http://www.teleport.com:80/~ibis



      AMR'TA, a pioneering organization that two years ago released

the most comprehensive data-base software package available in the

natural medicine field, has just opened three new health information

services on the Internet.

      The medical research and teaching organization now offers two

home pages on the World Wide Web providing a broad array of

information on natural medicine for both general and professional

audiences.  In addition, a new mailing list opens a fresh forum for

discussion among health professionals.

      The first website, "Natural Medicine, Complementary Health

Care and Alternative Therapies,"  is a place to access health

information as well as reference health organizations, medical

institutions and other health resources available on Internet.  The

site's Internet address is http://www.teleport.com:80/~amrta.

      The second website provides introductory information on the

pioneering AMR'TA software program, IBIS, the Interactive

BodyMind Information System.  That Internet home page can be

reached at http://www.teleport.com:80/~ibis.

      A third new service, PARACELSUS, is a mailing list aimed at

promoting communication, cooperation and exploration among

health care professionals. Subscription is limited to practitioners,

educators, researchers and students in alternative and conventional

medical fields. The list is intended to focus on interesting cases,

practical clinical pearls, recent publications, useful anecdotes and

medical news.

      "We all have unique experiences, different perspectives and

valid insights. No one has all the answers," commented Dr. Mitchell

Stargrove, Research and Education Coordinator of AMR'TA.

"We can serve our patients best and advance the evolution of the

healing arts and medical science best by working together, sharing

ideas and being willing to learn," the naturopathic physician continued.

      Those wishing to participate in PARACELSUS should send a e-

mail message to <Majordomo@teleport.com>, reading "subscribe

paracelsus". As part of the subscription approval process, send a

biographical note indicating training, practice and interests to

<paracelsus@teleport.com>.

      AMR'TA, the Alchemical Medicine Research and Teaching

Association, is a nonprofit institution formed by a group of health

professionals in 1987 to investigate natural medicine and provide

education integrating a wide range of therapies. In 1993  the

organization released the IBIS software package.  More than 100

medical professionals spent four years compiling and editing IBIS.

      The result is the most comprehensive software package

available in the natural health field. Hypertexted for easy and quick

cross-referencing, the 10,000-page data base covers 282 common

medical conditions, and offers treatments from more than 16

systems of conventional and natural medicine.  Among them are

acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine, homeopathy, naturopathic

medicine, psychospiritual approaches and various techniques of

physical manipulation and exercise.

      Medical professionals from across the world now employ IBIS.

Its users are represented in all regions of the U.S. and dozens of

nations, among them Germany, Brazil, Sri Lanka, China,

Egypt  and Saudi Arabia.  Both IBM-compatible and Macintosh

versions are available. IBIS is available only to health care

professionals; tools for the general public are in development.

      IBIS is published by GAIA Multimedia Inc.  In the U.S., IBIS

information is available toll-free at (800)627-6851

weekdays 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.

E-mail is for AMR'TA is amrta@amrta.org and for

IBIS is ibis@teleport.com.



*********************************



Blessings and Good Health,

Mitch Stargrove



      "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient

               while nature cures the disease."    - Voltaire



                                 Mitchell Bebel Stargrove, N.D., L.Ac.

AMR'TA: Alchemical Medicine Research and Teaching Association



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:39:47 -0800

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Thanks for muscle spasm advice

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VM.GMD.DE



Carla, for shingles, try capsicum in both capsules and ointment. Putting

tincture of capsicum on the shingles can help alleviate the pain.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:31:23 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Puanani DeLara <puanani@MICF.NIST.GOV>

Subject:      Roselle(hibiscus sabdariffa)



I am trying to locate a source for  Roselle(hibiscus sabdariffa).  I would

like to try and grow it over the summer. I need a source that will deliver

to the US. I know that Richters has it but they can't ship it to the US.

Thanks in Advance,

PJ











~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Puanani L. Delara

ext. 5284

email  delara@boulder.nist.gov



"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have

of it." -Thomas Jefferson

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 10:34:01 -0800

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: looking for program

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VM.GMD.DE



Dominion Herbal College has such a program. It's very comprehensive but

also expensive. The College address is 7527 Kingsway, Burnaby, BC, V3N1C1.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 22:00:11 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Michael J. Smith" <msmith@OLDCOLO.COM>

Subject:      dosage on cloves for pain

Comments: To: herb%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Carla:  It was suggested to me to take 2 "00" size tabs of ground cloves

2 or 3 times a day.  I only take them at night because that's when I

notice the pain the most.  Two seems to be working for me, although I was

told that the dosage is fairly flexible.  Hope that helps.



Candice Smith



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:02:46 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Steven Finkelman <slfink@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <2F7FE048@nepo1.iaea.or.at>



Steven Finkelman                |        FoxPro developer and designer

DATA/Massage                    |        of strategic tools

slfink@netcom.com               |



On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Pek Linda wrote:



> Does anyone know of a tea that would help a hyperactive 11 year old to

> concentrate better in the classroom?

> A very worried mother,

> Linda at

> PEK@nepo1.iaea.or.at

>

The standard mesical treatment for this is to give the child some form of

stimulant. There is a paradoxical effect in preadolescents where the

stimulant has a calming effect (I forget the name iof the drug).



I myself have had what's known as ADDHD (Atention deficite/ hyperactive

disorder) for many years.  I have just taken a course of boifeedback

treatments using the Lubar protocall, and it has helped me intensly.

It lasted a total of about three months,about two years ago and the

results are persistant, I can focus much better today (I spend hours at a

time writing computer programs, where before I could only spend five or

ten minutes at a crack and forcing myself to focus was very painful.)

Find a regestered biofeedback therapist in your area.  If you want I can

give you some addresses for some places to help you enquire further.



There are some few days when my attention wanders, I find coffee or tea

helpful.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:40:16 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         George Struk <geostar@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.3.89.9504052258.A29177-0100000@netcom2> from "Steven

            Finkelman" at Apr 5, 95 11:02:46 pm



The very first thing to look at in hyperactivity is diet. This is so

basic and it's increadible how often it is ignored. Drug pushers (aka

doctors) pump children full of Ritalin, Prozac, and other amphetimines

and that's their answer. The first thing to do is get off sugar,

caffeine, junk food, alcohol, and tobacco. The next step is herbs such as

Passion Flower, Hops, Valerian, minerals like Calcium and Magnesium,

possibly some amino acids, biofeedback,

meditation. As a LAST resort when all else fails drugs are an option.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:32:00 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Laura Dixon <LDIX7262@URIACC.URI.EDU>

Comments: To: herb@URIACC.URI.EDU



Hello, Dr. Carson.  This is Part I, #1 of Assignment #3, my message to you usin

g BITNET.  Hopefully the Gods will smile on me and it'll work.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:04:11 -0600

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Stacey Ward <wards@PLK.AF.MIL>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <199504060640.AA24446@dorsai.dorsai.org> from "George Struk" at

            Apr 6, 95 02:40:16 am



> The very first thing to look at in hyperactivity is diet. This is so

> basic and it's increadible how often it is ignored. Drug pushers (aka

> doctors) pump children full of Ritalin, Prozac, and other amphetimines

> and that's their answer. The first thing to do is get off sugar,

> caffeine, junk food, alcohol, and tobacco. The next step is herbs such as

> Passion Flower, Hops, Valerian, minerals like Calcium and Magnesium,

> possibly some amino acids, biofeedback,

> meditation. As a LAST resort when all else fails drugs are an option.

            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Your advice is excellent, but I would still caution against ever resorting

to Ritalin.  A young friend of my sister's family committed suicide while

on it -- shortly afterward, we became aware of studies linking Ritalin to

suicidal depression in teenagers.



Regards,

--

Ms. Stacey A. Ward

wards@plk.af.mil        "how can you start a revolution

                       if you won't walk on the grass?"







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 07:42:00 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Beth Cuculich <Beth.Cuculich@NCAL.KAIPERM.ORG>

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  The letter of Thursday, 6 April 1995 7:33am PT



Laura -



Was this message supposed to be broadcast to the whole Herb mailing list? :-)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:43:43 MDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Megan A Harris <JY20@UTEP.BITNET>

Subject:      help for scars



Hi,



I wonder if anyone can help.  I have noticed recently that whenever

I hurt myself, (cut, scrape, bruise) it takes a long time for me

to heal and in the case of the cuts I usually get a scar, even if

the cut is very small.



I feel some of this has to do with my poor eating habits, which

I am working on.  However, in the meantime, does anyone have any

advice to offer to help the me from scarring or to help the

scarring less noticeable?



I'd appreciate any comments or advice.  Sincerely, Megan



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:27:33 -0500

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Ann Torrez <atorrez@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <199504061504.JAA28900@ug1.plk.af.mil>



And the other side of the coin........without Ritalin my 11 year old

becomes so frustrated with his inability to focus that he does become

depressed.....we have been at this for a long long time and without

Ritalin we would not have been able to overcome the obstacles placed in

front of us........so very often (and documented) there is a family

history of bipolar depression.....this may in fact be the source of

stories like these.  The key here is A GOOD DOCTOR, which is difficult to

find.....Just my personal and direct experience.  Ann T



On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Stacey Ward wrote:



> > The very first thing to look at in hyperactivity is diet. This is so

> > basic and it's increadible how often it is ignored. Drug pushers (aka

> > doctors) pump children full of Ritalin, Prozac, and other amphetimines

> > and that's their answer. The first thing to do is get off sugar,

> > caffeine, junk food, alcohol, and tobacco. The next step is herbs such as

> > Passion Flower, Hops, Valerian, minerals like Calcium and Magnesium,

> > possibly some amino acids, biofeedback,

> > meditation. As a LAST resort when all else fails drugs are an option.

>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Your advice is excellent, but I would still caution against ever resorting

> to Ritalin.  A young friend of my sister's family committed suicide while

> on it -- shortly afterward, we became aware of studies linking Ritalin to

> suicidal depression in teenagers.

>

> Regards,

> --

> Ms. Stacey A. Ward

> wards@plk.af.mil        "how can you start a revolution

>                          if you won't walk on the grass?"

>

>

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:43:04 -0600

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From:         Stacey Ward <wards@PLK.AF.MIL>

Subject:      Re: help for scars

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <06APR95.11587106.0214.MUSIC@UTEP> from "Megan A Harris" at Apr

            6, 95 10:43:43 am



Megan:



First off, have yourself tested for diabetes sometime.  Not trying to frighten,

but it can account for both easy scarring and slow healing.  My Mom is a TypeII

diabetic, so I have to be concerned, too -- recently, while dealing with a

bout of depression brought on by my father's war with cancer (the tough old

salt won many battles, but finally lost the war Saturday, March 25), I began

developing some of the same symptoms you describe.  Thus, it was very

REASSURING to be tested for diabetes, and come up healthy!



That said, vitamin deficiencies can often cause this sort of problem.  Try

increasing your vitamin C, B complex, and E intake.  Also calcium.  Treat

any injuries topically with vitamin E as well, and aloe vera gel -- fresh if

possible, or purest green jelly from the store (NOT lotion).  Increasing your

daily water and juice intake is a good idea, as is reducing or eliminating

caffeine from your diet.  With any large scrapes or cuts, using L-lysine is

a good idea, too.



> I wonder if anyone can help.  I have noticed recently that whenever

> I hurt myself, (cut, scrape, bruise) it takes a long time for me

> to heal and in the case of the cuts I usually get a scar, even if

> the cut is very small.

>

> I feel some of this has to do with my poor eating habits, which

> I am working on.  However, in the meantime, does anyone have any

> advice to offer to help the me from scarring or to help the

> scarring less noticeable?



Vitamin E and aloe vera will also help reduce existing scar tissue.



Best wishes and good luck.



Regards,

--

Ms. Stacey A. Ward

wards@plk.af.mil        "how can you start a revolution

                       if you won't walk on the grass?"







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:07:17 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: help for scars

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <06APR95.11587106.0214.MUSIC@UTEP>



On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Megan A Harris wrote:



> I wonder if anyone can help.  I have noticed recently that whenever

> I hurt myself, (cut, scrape, bruise) it takes a long time for me

> to heal and in the case of the cuts I usually get a scar, even if

> the cut is very small.



Sounds like my blood-sugar (diabetes) problems - similar slow healing.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:27:44 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Old documents on grapevine

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



Last night I was researching microfilm for my genealogy and cme across

a surprising document. IT was a paper telling about a cure for dropsy

using grapevine. It said the patient had 4 gallons of water in her

abdomen and had had up to 26 gallons removed before in 4-6 gallon amounts.

He described using ashes of grapevine in wine and vapor baths to effect

a cure which he said took up to 3 months. The document was from a collection

of papers from New York in the early 1800's. If you're interested, I'll

copy and post the document. The handwriting was beautiful. It was written

by a Dr. Dunn.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:47:45 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Grapevine doc. from mid 1800's

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



      As to the Grapevine, I consider it one of the most valuable

medicines in the world for dropsy.  I cured a lady in Louisville

Kentucky (Mrs. L.) of this disease, whose case was considered

hopeless.  She had been tapped six times and twenty-six gallons

of water taken from her, averaging from four to six gallons at a

time.   Professor Gross and Dr. Richardson together with several

other medical gentlemen of great distinction, including

Professor Cobb, Dr. Knight, and Professor Meigs of Philadelphia,

were consulted in this case.



      At the time I was called to take charge of the case there was

apparently upwards of five gallons of water in the abdomen, and

it was only with the greatest care that she could be turned with

safety.  In three months the water had entirely disappeared, and

her general health was perfectly restored.



      This extraordinary and rapid cure was effected by one of the

most simple of nature's remedies,  the Grapevine,  aided by the

vapor baths.  The Grapevine was carefully burned into ashes and

administered in doses of a heaping teaspoonful three or four

times a day, in a wineglass of Madeira Wine.  The vapor bath was

used once every twenty-four hours.  Catawba Wine would be

equally as good or better.  This is the common Grapevine, found

growing wild in all parts of the country, as well as being

extensively cultivated in many places.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:12:38 -0400

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From:         Rick Scott <ricks@VIVANET.COM>

Subject:      Re: help for scars

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



If the slow/incomplete healing is new in your life, you might

want to ask your family doctor about it, since this could be

the result of an underlying condition.



A good comfrey salve and/or vitamin E oil rubbed into the

wound will help prevent scarring.



>Hi,

>

>I wonder if anyone can help.  I have noticed recently that whenever

>I hurt myself, (cut, scrape, bruise) it takes a long time for me

>to heal and in the case of the cuts I usually get a scar, even if

>the cut is very small.

>

>I feel some of this has to do with my poor eating habits, which

>I am working on.  However, in the meantime, does anyone have any

>advice to offer to help the me from scarring or to help the

>scarring less noticeable?

>

>I'd appreciate any comments or advice.  Sincerely, Megan



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:22:08 -0500

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

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From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: your mail

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.bitnet@GSUVM1.GSU.EDU

In-Reply-To:  <HERB%95040617271422@VM.EGE.EDU.TR> from "Laura Dixon" at Apr 6,

            95 09:32:00 am



>

> Hello, Dr. Carson.  This is Part I, #1 of Assignment #3, my message to you

usin

> g BITNET.  Hopefully the Gods will smile on me and it'll work.

>





--

Laura - somehow your message to Dr. Carson got posted to the whole Herb

List. What you see listed above is all that came through. So much for

Part I, ASsignment 3.



Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:36:00 CET

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From:         Pek Linda <pek@NEPO1.IAEA.OR.AT>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity



Many thanks to all who replied to my questions about hyperactivity. I would

thank you all personally but my mail program cuts off all the headers, so

unless you signed your message with an email address, I don't know who you

are. I'm off work until the 18th of April because of spring break and have

set the herb list to nomail in the meantime. Have a happy Easter everyone!

Thanks again,

Linda in Vienna



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 07:36:54 -0700

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From:         Phxhawk <phxhawk@INDIRECT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Old documents on grapevine

Comments: To: Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <01HP0OKF7WYUHSP1L9@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



I'd be very interested in seeing that paper!!



__________________________________________________________________

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are

composed entirely of lost airport luggage."

                                          Mark Russell



On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Anita F Hales wrote:



> Last night I was researching microfilm for my genealogy and cme across

> a surprising document. IT was a paper telling about a cure for dropsy

> using grapevine.

The document was from a collection

> of papers from New York in the early 1800's. If you're interested, I'll

> copy and post the document. The handwriting was beautiful. It was written

> by a Dr. Dunn.

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:56:18 -0500

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From:         Kay and Pete Hanson <kidkaos@USLINK.NET>

Subject:      Re: Help for hyperactivity

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>Many thanks to all who replied to my questions about hyperactivity. I would

>thank you all personally but my mail program cuts off all the headers, so

>unless you signed your message with an email address, I don't know who you

>are. I'm off work until the 18th of April because of spring break and have

>set the herb list to nomail in the meantime. Have a happy Easter everyone!

>Thanks again,

>Linda in Vienna

>



I know that this is not an 'herbal' rememdy, but having a son who is ADHD, I

figure I can talk with some experience. Our son was diagnosed at age 2 1/2 with

ADHD.  He was in early childhood Preschool, (we live in Minnesota) shortly

after the age of 3.  When he went to kindergarten we put him on 'drugs' but

found that other than maling him'quiet' for the teacher they had no other

effects (NOT TO SAY THEY DON'T WORK FOR SOME KIDS) but didn't work for ours.

(Yes he had a

milk allergy, and that slowed him down some)  But kids are born with ADHD, it's

like being born with redhair or green eyes, or whatever.  Some kids just

have it.  There are all kinds of theories, the latest being a chemical

imbalence in the brain, but in the 7 years we've followed the research,

there have been 5  different explanations for 'why.' people have ADHD,  The

simple truth is that

sometimes 'drugs' work, kids grow up and learn how to cope with some of it,

and there are going to be 'new' theories as to what causes it.

A few facts:

   Snart kids (usually boys have ADHD, girls have ADD) are prone to it.

    (one theory is it's linked to intelligence)

   If you have it, your children will probably have it.

   These kids tend to have Self-esteem problems because of the impulsiability

   Any attention is better than no attention, so reward the good.

   ADHD and ADD kids also have a good chance of having a learning

dissability,          so watch for any potential problems

   Placing the child in a classroom with 10 or 12 students is better than a

     crowded classroom



Now, kids can learn to live with the problem.  What worked for us when

ours was small was such simple things as : listen to calming music, playing

Nintendo

(a real help cause it teaches them focus and hand eye-cordination, this was

recomended by his councilor), computer-time, (ADD kids do better with

computers), Super-markets and shopping centers trigger an over load of

colors and sounds so remeber when the kid looses it it's not there fault.

Take time for yourself, you do better when you have control.  try only

changing one behavior at a time, focus on the one not everything that drives

you nuts.  Remember that it's not the kids fault, they would rather be

'good' also.  Time out is the recomended punishment, (the kid gets a minute

per year of age to sit

on a chair where they have to be quiet and good.)  Rewards work well, but

set the rewards where they can reach them.  Don't use rewards on eveything

or you'll

only get the kid to be good for a reward (did I mention thee kids are smart?)

  Read to them, they loke you to read, it helps them focus.  ROUTINE, they

need structure and routine.  NEVER give in on rules, next time they'll try

to see how long it takes for you to change your mind.  They are good at

piercing your emotions, they get a 'high' out of getting you out of control,

so you need

to find your triggers and don't let them rile you.

 There is a listserv and a newsgroup on Net for talking to others.  there are

lots of real-world support groups.  Also look into your school system and

see if they have a good 'program' for helping your child.  Counciling is

important, for the both of you.

My son also reacts positively and slows down with massage, we've worked on

simple meditation and studied tai chi.  He at third grade still has

problems, but has gone from being that 'kid who can't sit still.' to that

kid 'who's smart.'  After a reading problem in 1st and second grade he know

reads at a sixth grade level, and after almost failing math last year has

scored in the top 5% in math  for his age group.  He is learning how to live

with the ADHD.  Sure

he still can't sit still and has temper problems, but he is also learning

his own way of dealing with his 'hyperness' as he calls it.

Good luck, don't throw in the towel, and connect with other parents.

                                         Kay

                                    kidkaos@uslink.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:50:57 MDT

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From:         Megan A Harris <JY20@UTEP.BITNET>

Subject:      thanks for help



Hi!



I just wanted to thank everyone who answered my question regarding

scars.  I will try all the suggestions offered.  And, by the way,

I went today and was tested for diabetes.  It came out negative, so

that's a relief.  I'd been meaning to have the test done, and the

messages were enough to get me to do it.



Megan Harris

jy20%utep@utepvm.utep.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:13:03 +0100

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From:         Mary & Loren Testa <mtesta@MAIL.MOTHER.COM>

Subject:      oxygen therapy

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Dear herb list, Is anyone out there involved with using oxygen therapies?

Or is there a different list for this subject? I have questions, but don't

want to clutter up this list. You can email me directly at

mtesta@mother.com. Thanks, Loren



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:22:03 -0600

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From:         Jannell Shaw <Jannell.Shaw@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>

Subject:      free-radicals???



Hello everyone,

My friend and I just recieved a bunch of pamphlets from Nu Skin

International about their "Interior Design Nutritionals". Well, their

pamphlets are beatiful and they look like they're well backed up, but as

always I'm skeptical of herbal mixes and compound latin words when

translated mean very little.



Enough ranting, my question is about free-radicals. I am unfamiliar with

them, what they really are and what they do.



Nu Skin's definition is "A free radical is an atom or molecule that has one or more unpaired

electrons and is therefore unstable. Free radical reactions are

constantly occuring in the body."



Is this so bad? My understanding is that unstable electrons help to drive

intracellular reactions such as ATP synthsis and electron transport

chains. Any help with this at all would be helpful. Thanks in advance.



Jannell Shaw

Zone 4a



jannell.shaw@m.cc.utah.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:42:12 -0500

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From:         Bonnie Barton <bbarton@MAIL.COIN.MISSOURI.EDU>

Subject:      Sleep Problems

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        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950407131607.9823A-100000@u.cc.utah.edu>



Just wondering if anybody out there can help with a little problem I'm

having.  This case has some history on it so hold on.  Last October I

gradually started sleeping more than my normal eight or nine hours.  By

December I was seeping fourteen hours a day minimum.  Needless to say,

this was a cause for great concern.  All I wanted to do was sleep and it

was rare for me to have enough energy to complete even half of the

activitys in my very busy and moderatly stressful life as a graduating

senior in college.  I went to my mother's internal specialist, who after

a blood test or two, diagnosed me as having chemical depression due to a

decrease in production of neurotransmitters and placed me on prosaic.

Despite the bad rep of this drug I showed considerable improvement oer

the next three months with my sleep need decreasing to ten hours and only

rare occurences of insomnia and panic attacks ( both potential

sideaffects)  Three weeks ago I began sleeping more again while still on

medication.  The doc recommended that I get off the drug for a week or

two due to the possiblity that I had maxed out on it.  Although the

fatigue hasn't increased, it hasn't decreased either.  This brings me to

my question.  Do any of you out there know of any herbal remedy that may

help increase my energy level without causing any muscle tension or

insomnia?  I am currently on a general multi vitamin and tests for anemia

have come up negative.  Any help you can give will be appreciated.  My

email address is bbarton@ mail.coin. missouri.edu.  Thanks in advance.



Bonnie Barton



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 21:31:19 -0700

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From:         Steven Finkelman <slfink@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

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        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950407202800.21641A@bigcat>



This sounds like Seasonal affectiv sysnrome (SAD). the best help for this

is sunlight.  barring that 1-2 hours of full spectrum light first thing

in the morning, at least 6 40 watt tubes (I use 12) mo further than 3

feet away from you.



When I was origionally diagnosed with this I used prozak.  during the

darker months of winter.  It really helped.



Steven Finkelman                |        FoxPro developer and designer

DATA/Massage                    |        of strategic tools

slfink@netcom.com               |



On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Bonnie Barton wrote:



> Just wondering if anybody out there can help with a little problem I'm

> having.  This case has some history on it so hold on.  Last October I

> gradually started sleeping more than my normal eight or nine hours.  By

> December I was seeping fourteen hours a day minimum.  Needless to say,

> this was a cause for great concern.  All I wanted to do was sleep and it

> was rare for me to have enough energy to complete even half of the

> activitys in my very busy and moderatly stressful life as a graduating

> senior in college.  I went to my mother's internal specialist, who after

> a blood test or two, diagnosed me as having chemical depression due to a

> decrease in production of neurotransmitters and placed me on prosaic.

> Despite the bad rep of this drug I showed considerable improvement oer

> the next three months with my sleep need decreasing to ten hours and only

> rare occurences of insomnia and panic attacks ( both potential

> sideaffects)  Three weeks ago I began sleeping more again while still on

> medication.  The doc recommended that I get off the drug for a week or

> two due to the possiblity that I had maxed out on it.  Although the

> fatigue hasn't increased, it hasn't decreased either.  This brings me to

> my question.  Do any of you out there know of any herbal remedy that may

> help increase my energy level without causing any muscle tension or

> insomnia?  I am currently on a general multi vitamin and tests for anemia

> have come up negative.  Any help you can give will be appreciated.  My

> email address is bbarton@ mail.coin. missouri.edu.  Thanks in advance.

>

> Bonnie Barton

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 12:12:00 EDT

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From:         Jonathan McDonagh <MCDONAGH@MIDD.CC.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>

Subject:      Re: free-radicals???



In response on the question about free radicals:



That description is essentiall correct: free radicals are molecules containing

unpaired electrons.  Generally, they are thought to be very bad for the body

because they can destroy cells by initiating abnormal binding between DNA

molecules causing damage during cell division.  There are other mechanisms

as well, by which free radicals can be harmful at the cellular level as well,

most of which are poorly understood.  It is not clear how many free radicals

the body has the ability to with stand before damage occurs, but there

are several molecules that do have the ability to bind, and therefore,

deactivate free radicals, vitamin C-- ascorbic acid is an example.



As far as being part of the normal biochemical reactions in the body, free

radicals have little, if any part.  Those reactions that you mentioned, ATP

synthesis and hydrolysis, and electron transport, are extremely important

for bodily function, but all involve the transport or movement of two electrons

at a time which is much more stable than a free radical.  I do believe there

are one or two enzymes which do act via a free radical initiation mechanism,

which I can look up if you like, but in general, I think it is safe to say

that free radicals are harmful-- how harmful, we don't know, but harmful.



                                      -jonathan McD.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 12:23:47 -0700

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From:         Philip Miller <bodywise@REDSHIFT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

Comments: cc: paracelsus@teleport.com



>On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Bonnie Barton wrote:

>

>> Just wondering if anybody out there can help with a little problem I'm

>> having.  This case has some history on it so hold on.  Last October I

>> gradually started sleeping more than my normal eight or nine hours.  By

>> December I was seeping fourteen hours a day minimum.  Needless to say,

>> this was a cause for great concern.  All I wanted to do was sleep and it

>> was rare for me to have enough energy to complete even half of the

>> activitys in my very busy and moderatly stressful life as a graduating

>> senior in college.  I went to my mother's internal specialist, who after

>> a blood test or two, diagnosed me as having chemical depression due to a

>> decrease in production of neurotransmitters and placed me on prosaic.

>>      (more text deleted)

>> I am currently on a general multi vitamin and tests for anemia

>> have come up negative.  Any help you can give will be appreciated.  My

>> email address is bbarton@ mail.coin. missouri.edu.  Thanks in advance.

>>

>> Bonnie Barton

>>



Bonnie,



You may have already received the answer, but if not, the most logical

answer is Melatonin, 3mg to 9 mg at bedtime.  Your natural Melatonin

(secreted by the pineal gland) has been shown to be the primary regulator of

natural sleep rhythms and seems to peek at about 2 am in adults and 3 am in

older adults.  Taking this at night also seems to re-regulate your biologic

clock so that it has been used to moderate the effects of "jet lag."



I am not aware of any bad side effects, although certainly someone will find

some negative effects in the next few years.  For now it is thought to be a

powerful anti-oxidant, a very powerful anti-aging drug and possibly a

powerful anti-breast cancer agent.



Rather impressive for a small tablet that is taken sublingually at night and

is non-prescription at the present time.



A large volume of research data exists on this subject such as the following

(from MEDLINE):



AD  - Institute of Experimental Medicine, Russian Academy of Medical

Science, St. Petersburg.

AB  - Circadian (night), chronic administration of melatonin and

young-to-old pineal grafting into the thymus have provided evidence for the

existence of an endogenous, primary and central aging clock in the pineal

gland. The new model described here serves to definitely demonstrate that

the replacement of the pineal gland of an old mouse with the pineal from a

young, syngeneic donor mouse remarkably prolongs its life and, conversely,

the old pineal transplanted into a younger mouse will considerably shorten

its life span. Pineal cross-transplantation thus provides clear-cut evidence

for the central role of the pineal gland in the initiation and progression

of senescence. It offers a novel basis for interventions in the aging process.





Dr. Philip Miller



 ........................................

    The power is within you...

 ........................................



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:31:33 -0500

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From:         Patrick S Visniewski <blah@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>

Subject:      Re: free-radicals???

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On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Jannell Shaw wrote:



> Nu Skin's definition is "A free radical is an atom or molecule that has one or

more unpaired

> electrons and is therefore unstable. Free radical reactions are

> constantly occuring in the body."

>

> Is this so bad? My understanding is that unstable electrons help to drive

> intracellular reactions such as ATP synthsis and electron transport

> chains. Any help with this at all would be helpful. Thanks in advance.



um, well its not so bad if you don't mind the fact that free radicals

love to bind to DNA.  This tends to cause all sorts of inconviences like

mutations and misreading of the genetic material.

which can lead to things like cancer, malfuntiong cells, and death.



The biochemical reactions in the body are NOT driven by free radicals or

"unstable" electrons. The are various energetic and equilibrium concerns

involved.



Many of the reactions occuring in the body are specifically to get rid of

free radicals.



the viewpoint of a molecular biology student.



Pat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 18:02:18 -0500

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From:         Don Slish <SLISHDF@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>

Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA

Subject:      Re: free-radicals???



Date sent:  8-APR-1995 17:55:22



>Hello everyone,

>My friend and I just recieved a bunch of pamphlets from Nu Skin

>International about their "Interior Design Nutritionals". Well, their

>pamphlets are beatiful and they look like they're well backed up, but as

>always I'm skeptical of herbal mixes and compound latin words when

>translated mean very little.

>

>Enough ranting, my question is about free-radicals. I am unfamiliar with

>them, what they really are and what they do.

>

>Nu Skin's definition is "A free radical is an atom or molecule that has one or

 m

>ore unpaired

>electrons and is therefore unstable. Free radical reactions are

>constantly occuring in the body."

>

>Is this so bad? My understanding is that unstable electrons help to drive

>intracellular reactions such as ATP synthsis and electron transport

>chains. Any help with this at all would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

>

>Jannell Shaw

>Zone 4a

>

>jannell.shaw@m.cc.utah.edu







Dear Jannell,

      Most chemical bonds are made by two atoms that share a pair of

electrons, for example, a carbon atom (C) and a hydrogen atom (H) sharing

two electrons.  In the usual biochemical reaction, these electrons are

passed around in pairs, accompanied by the H atom.  This is how electrons

are taken from a molecule being used to make energy (eg. glucose) by NAD+,

and then passed to the electron transport chain to make ATP.  These

electrons aren't necessarily unstable, but are moving down an energy hill

from a high energy molecule (glucose) to a low energy molecule (water).

The energy released in the process is trapped and stored as ATP to be used

by the cell for metabolism.  These types of reactions are easy for the cell

to control.

      However, sometimes a molecule loses a H atom along with only one of

the two electrons form that bond.  This leaves a molecule with an unpaired

electron behind which is inherently unstable (a free radical).  This

molecule goes around looking for a H and an electron to steal from another

molecule so that it will return to stability.  But when it steals this H

and electron, the molecule it steals it from is then left with an unpaired

electron and it becomes a free radical.  This kind of chain reaction

stealing of electrons is uncontrollable and can wreak havoc on the organic

molecules from which cells are made.

      Free radicals are produced quite a bit in the body.  They are often

produced as side products of inefficient metabolism of fatty acids and

amino acids.  There is a cellular enzyme whose job is to neutralize them

(catalase).  A cell can become damaged when the amount of free radicals

being produced is greater than those being neutralized.

      I'm not sure how all this relates to skin care, but my guess is

that damage due to free radicals may be responsible for the skin's aging

(but I have no specific information relating to that).



Hope this was a help





Don Slish



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:53:28 PST

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From:         "FRED W. BACH , TRIUMF Operations" <music@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA>

Subject:      Re: free-radicals???

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



>Message-ID: <01HP3SL4SW029JNA97@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>

>Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 18:02:18 -0500

>From: Don Slish <SLISHDF%SNYPLAVA.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

>Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA

>Subject: Re: free-radicals???

>To: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

>

>Date sent:  8-APR-1995 17:55:22



[ snip ]



>        Free radicals are produced quite a bit in the body.  They are often

>produced as side products of inefficient metabolism of fatty acids and

>amino acids.  There is a cellular enzyme whose job is to neutralize them

>(catalase).  A cell can become damaged when the amount of free radicals

>being produced is greater than those being neutralized.



[ snip ]



>Don Slish



 Free radicals, and *charged* free radicals, are also produced by

 ionizing radiation.  In the skin, ultraviolet can do this.  That's

 what has happened when you get a sunburn.  X-rays do it, as do beta

 rays (fast electrons) and alpha particles (fast, naked helium

 nucleii) which are all given off by radioactive isotopes which

 decay.  Some give off one kind, some all three.



 Please note that I am NOT talking about microwaves or radio waves here.



 As Don mentioned, the body has protection (and repair) mechanisms

 to handle small amounts of this.



Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        | Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca

TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    | Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 6327/7333

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Damien says " If you don't STAND for SOMETHING, you'll FALL for ANYTHING "

These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.

They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 17:43:54 -0700

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From:         Phxhawk <phxhawk@INDIRECT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: Bonnie Barton <bbarton@MAIL.COIN.MISSOURI.EDU>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950407202800.21641A@bigcat>



Bonnie there is an excellent article in this month's "Natural Health"

magazine about the efficacy of flower essences versus Prozac.



__________________________________________________________________

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are

composed entirely of lost airport luggage."

                                          Mark Russell



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:06:54 -0700

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From:         Philip Miller <bodywise@REDSHIFT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



>On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Bonnie Barton wrote:

>

>> Just wondering if anybody out there can help with a little problem I'm

>> having.  This case has some history on it so hold on.  Last October I

>> gradually started sleeping more than my normal eight or nine hours.  By

>> December I was seeping fourteen hours a day minimum.  Needless to say,

>> this was a cause for great concern.  All I wanted to do was sleep and it

>> was rare for me to have enough energy to complete even half of the

>> activitys in my very busy and moderatly stressful life as a graduating

>> senior in college.  I went to my mother's internal specialist, who after

>> a blood test or two, diagnosed me as having chemical depression due to a

>> decrease in production of neurotransmitters and placed me on prosaic.

>>      (more text deleted)

>> I am currently on a general multi vitamin and tests for anemia

>> have come up negative.  Any help you can give will be appreciated.  My

>> email address is bbarton@ mail.coin. missouri.edu.  Thanks in advance.

>>

>> Bonnie Barton

>>



Bonnie,



You may have already received the answer, but if not, the most logical

answer is Melatonin, 3 to 9 mg at bedtime. Your natural Melatonin (secreted

by the pineal gland) has been shown to be the primary regulator of natural

sleep rhythms and seems to peek at about 2 am in adults and 3 am in older

adults.  Taking this at night also seems to re-regulate your biologic clock

so that it has been used to moderate the effects of "jet lag."



I am not aware of any bad side effects, although certainly someone will find

some negative effects in the next few years.  For now it is thought to be a

powerful anti-oxidant, a very powerful anti-aging drug and possibly a

powerful anti-breast cancer agent.



Rather impressive for a small tablet that is taken sublingually at night and

is non-prescription at the present time.



A large volume of research data exists on this subject such as the following

(from MEDLINE):



AD  - Institute of Experimental Medicine, Russian Academy of Medical

Science, St. Petersburg.

AB  - Circadian (night), chronic administration of melatonin and

young-to-old pineal grafting into the thymus have provided evidence for the

existence of an endogenous, primary and central aging clock in the pineal

gland. The new model described here serves to definitely demonstrate that

the replacement of the pineal gland of an old mouse with the pineal from a

young, syngeneic donor mouse remarkably prolongs its life and, conversely,

the old pineal transplanted into a younger mouse will considerably shorten

its life span. Pineal cross-transplantation thus provides clear-cut evidence

for the central role of the pineal gland in the initiation and progression

of senescence. It offers a novel basis for interventions in the aging process.





Dr. Philip Miller



 ........................................

    The power is within you

 ........................................



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:01:50 -0400

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From:         Gary Gorges <Gary_Gorges@MINDLINK.BC.CA>

Subject:      How can I use 'Curry Plant'



I just purchased several pots of the Curry Plant (Helichrysum

angustifolium) and wonder if it can be used in cooking (it really does

smell like curry).



None of my books list this plant and the info that came with it only

indicates that it can be used to repel moths.



Does anyone have experience with this plant?



Thanks,



gary_gorges@mindlink.bc.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:54:19 -0400

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From:         Debi Bliss <Debibliss@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: How can I use 'Curry Plant'

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



There really is no cooking value for the Curry Plant (so I've heard) but I

have also heard that you can use it in a pinch (when cooking) just to lend

the "smell".



But it is drought tolerant...........    :-)



Debi



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:22:42 -0500

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From:         "Fran E. Rich" <frich@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: How can I use 'Curry Plant'

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In-Reply-To:  <m0ry5zW-0003FYC@deep.rsoft.bc.ca>



Gary,

My sister-in-law stuffs curry plant in the cavity of a chicken before she

roasts it.



Fran



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:46:57 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@VM.GMD.DE



Have you been screened for Epstein Barr Virus?  There are two or more

varieties of this virus, one of which can cause the symptoms you describe.

Chronic fatigue syndrome is one caused by Epstein Barr Virus. Stay away

from Guarana and Ephedra (MaHuang) they can cause hypertension and other

problems you don't want. Guarana is pure caffeine (almost) and ephedra is

a very good herbal "antihistimine".  People frequently misuse these for

energy and weight loss. I wouldn't recommend it. Your condition may need

more than just a pickerupper. You need to fix what's wrong not just

address a vague symptom.  I would recommend seeing a good Homeopath.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:09:45 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Cocculus Palm

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



Does anyone have information on this plant, its medicinal uses, where it

grows, etc. Thanks.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:25:35 -0600

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From:         "cm23591@academia.swt.edu \"C.L. Mugrage\"" <CM23591@SWT.EDU>

Organization: Southwest Texas State University

Subject:      info.



Hi,

My name is Chris and I am posting for a friend that does not have internet

access. She wants some info. for her own use that I will print and forward to

her. I hope you folks don't mind the intrusion.



Her ?'s are:

1. Other than Black Cohash, what natural herb, plant or berry can be used by

post- hysterectomy women to replace estrogen therapy?

2. What natural ingredient can be used by ingestion for alleviating or

lessening pain without a narcotic effect?(ie. tumor invasion, degenerative disc

disease, residual effects from muscular polio, arthritis, inproperly healed

broken bones)

3. Other than "Healthy Healing" by Linda G. Rector-Page, what reference manual

would have the natural remedy, how to prepare it, how to take and for how long?

4. Can any of the natural remedies be used with any of the other natural

remedies without an adverse reaction that occurs in man-made remedies? Will

reference manuals caution about any incompatabilities?

5. Are there reference manuals of north american or native american natural

remedies?



Please direct your responses to my personal mailbox  CM23591@academia.swt.edu,

Thanx in advance.





-Chris Mugrage

San Marcos, Tx.

Southwest Texas State University



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:18:04 -0600

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From:         bruce bammes <bruce.bammes@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

In-Reply-To:  <01HP2KAMD386HSOK76@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



      I am not "correcting" anyone!!  I hope that I can educate.  If

you want to believe diffrently, it is OK with me.

      EBV seems to be associated with CFIDS, but does not cause the

condition.  EBV and other viruses may precipitate or exacerbate CFIDS,

but as far as I know they have not been shown to be the cause.

      Those of us who have CFIDS sincerely wish that the situation were

that easy.  Many, many very competent researchers have worked mega-hard

on the problem, and so far not much.

      I use herbs to help with the symptoms, but so far I have not

found much that is helpful beyond stimulents.  Valarian root is

incredibly good for the shaking and muscle spasams.  Golden seal helps

for a while.

      I personally believe the main culpret is a Prion agent.  This is

the protien-only infectious agent that causes scrapi in sheep, and is

suspected in Altzheimers(sp).

      Anita, you are right on however, when you suspect CFIDS for this

person.  I agree that it seems likely.

      I recommend that anyone who thinks that they might have CFIDS be

checked first for things like Diabetes and abcesses etc.  Then they

should subscribe to the alt.med.cfs list and lurk for a while.

      Please, please, and please do not take offense at what I have

written.        God Bless,  Bruce





Bruce Bammes--University of Utah--USA  Disabled Rights Activist

Bruce@mustard.com   I have Wheels and a dog                     __

Bruce.Bammes@m.cc.utah.edu  CFIDS Challenger  Mech. Eng. Student |

-----------------------------------------------------------------(X)\_



On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Anita F Hales wrote:



> Have you been screened for Epstein Barr Virus?  There are two or more

> varieties of this virus, one of which can cause the symptoms you describe.

> Chronic fatigue syndrome is one caused by Epstein Barr Virus. Stay away

> from Guarana and Ephedra (MaHuang) they can cause hypertension and other

> problems you don't want. Guarana is pure caffeine (almost) and ephedra is

> a very good herbal "antihistimine".  People frequently misuse these for

> energy and weight loss. I wouldn't recommend it. Your condition may need

> more than just a pickerupper. You need to fix what's wrong not just

> address a vague symptom.  I would recommend seeing a good Homeopath.

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:43:07 MESZ

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From:         Frank from Germany <komb@HP9001.RZ.FH-PFORZHEIM.DE>

Subject:      Re: Intercostal neuralgia

Comments: cc: komb@rz.fh-pforzheim.de

In-Reply-To:  <HERB%95032909054171@VM.EGE.EDU.TR>; from "shirley thompson" at

            Mar 28, 95 3:57 pm



>

> Gunther, I have tried to contact you concerning using the hydrogen Peroxide

> for osteoarthritis?  I was unable to send a message directly to you.  Have

> you found out whether Hydrogen Peroxide works on arthritis?  thanks

>

>  Shirley Thompson      User Service Center      Boise State University

>                     Dusthomp@Idbsu.Idbsu.Edu                            du

> Here's to it and to it again, if you don't do it, when you get to it,

> you may never get to it to do it again. . .

>



Dear Shiley,

please accept the appologies for the delay of my reply.

I got some answers to my inquiry on Hydrogen peroxide.

However, so far i do not have own experiences

and cannot explain how it works on osteoarthhritis.

If you would like to send to send a message to me please

send it to     komb@hp9001.rz.fh-pforzheim.de.

All the best best.

With kindest regards,

Guenther Frank

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:42:00 -0700

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From:         chelley maple <chelma@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      ma huang,gymnema,zinc mag sulfate



My friend and I share a couple of common problems which include painful

adhesions and the lethargy that a flare-up brings. She has been taking a

medication which she had to stop because it made her hyper. Lazy old sot

that I am, :}) , I immediately became curious. The ingredients are Ma

Huang, Zinc magnesium sulfate and gymnema silvestri. I have not heard of

any of these materials and am wondering if anyone has any info.

       Thank you

               Chelley



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:59:09 -0700

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From:         "Georgann K. Cunney" <curious@AIMNET.COM>

Subject:      Help

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <9504101702.ZM10880@tara.mfg.sgi.com>



I wonder if this will work.  I have tried to post some information to

this newsgroup (Medicinal and Aromatic Plants) and each time it is returned

to me.  I have tried the address above and several others.  So, I thought

maybe if I try the reply command I can get through.  Why am I having this

problem?  What is the secret??  Help.



This was my message from late Sunday night;



Hello everyone,



I'm fairly new to this group and the internet, its been just a couple of

weeks.  The discussions and all the information are great!

Thankyou.



This evening I met Michael Murray!  He had dinner in the restaurant where

I work.  I was so happy to have the opportunity by chance to meet and

talk with him.  I am taking herbal study courses at the California

Institute of Integral Studies.  David Hoffman is our instructor.  He is

excellent.  It is a special priviledge for me.  Among the expert

herbalist that come up in our discussions, Michael  Murray is referred to

often.  In fact we are using his book "The Healing Powers of Herbs" as

one of the text books in western phyto-therapy.  I have been very

interested in herbs most of my life, so it is exciting to be studying

about them more intensively.



Micheal mentioned that he is going to be giving a talk tomorrow (Monday)

night here in the bay area at the San Francisco Airport Marriott, so I

thought I'd post it to the newsgroup.  I hope to be there.  I think it is

7-9 o'clock in the evening.  Calling for info might be a good idea.



Sweet dreams,

Georgann Cunney

curious@aimnet.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:01:25 -0700

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From:         Dianne Gillard <phxhawk@INDIRECT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Help

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        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>This evening I met Michael Murray!  He had dinner in the restaurant where

>I work.  I was so happy to have the opportunity by chance to meet and

>talk with him.  I am taking herbal study courses at the California

>Institute of Integral Studies.  David Hoffman is our instructor.  He is

>excellent.  It is a special priviledge for me.  Among the expert

>herbalist that come up in our discussions, Michael  Murray is referred to

>often.  In fact we are using his book "The Healing Powers of Herbs" as

>one of the text books in western phyto-therapy.  I have been very

>interested in herbs most of my life, so it is exciting to be studying

>about them more intensively.

>

That's exciting about Hoffman being your instructor!! I heard the herbalist

I am apprenticed under talk about him. Have you heard or read any of

Michael Tierra's book "Planetary Herbology"? His is a Chinese Medicine

slant- includes the energies of the herbs, etc.



Glad you made it onto HERB!

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:14:04 CDT

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From:         "E. Sezonov" <z999046@MDACC.MDA.UTH.TMC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Are you'all saying that sleep problems can be the result of EBV or CFIDS?

Or did the conversations just wondered off from the initial topic?



>        EBV seems to be associated with CFIDS, but does not cause the

>condition.  EBV and other viruses may precipitate or exacerbate CFIDS,

>but as far as I know they have not been shown to be the cause.

>

>> Have you been screened for Epstein Barr Virus?  There are two or more

>> varieties of this virus, one of which can cause the symptoms you describe.





I am getting totally desperate with my sleep problem but I still haven't

seen a doctor.  I saw a psycologist w/ the hope of picking up some

hypnosis techniques but he just bawled me out saying I was too

permissive w/ my teenage son - which is often but not always the most

obvious reason for my not being able to sleep.



Thanks,

Erica



PS. I've tried all kinds of herbs and homeopatic remedies but sometimes

  (or often ~) nothing helps.  Sometimes aspirin helps when my legs

  get painful from the tiredness but aspirin is bad for my stomach.





> Stay away

> from Guarana and Ephedra (MaHuang) they can cause hypertension and other

> problems you don't want.



Good advise, I'll try that (Drinking Yerba Mate in the afternoons).



> address a vague symptom.  I would recommend seeing a good Homeopath.

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:14:20 -0400

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From:         Rick Scott <ricks@VIVANET.COM>

Subject:      Re: Help

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        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



I'm taking Michael Tierra's professional correspondence course in

planetary herbology. David Hoffman is also one of my favorites.

As is David Frawley.



>>This evening I met Michael Murray!  He had dinner in the restaurant where

>>I work.  I was so happy to have the opportunity by chance to meet and

>>talk with him.  I am taking herbal study courses at the California

>>Institute of Integral Studies.  David Hoffman is our instructor.  He is

>>excellent.  It is a special priviledge for me.  Among the expert

>>herbalist that come up in our discussions, Michael  Murray is referred to

>>often.  In fact we are using his book "The Healing Powers of Herbs" as

>>one of the text books in western phyto-therapy.  I have been very

>>interested in herbs most of my life, so it is exciting to be studying

>>about them more intensively.

>>

>That's exciting about Hoffman being your instructor!! I heard the herbalist

>I am apprenticed under talk about him. Have you heard or read any of

>Michael Tierra's book "Planetary Herbology"? His is a Chinese Medicine

>slant- includes the energies of the herbs, etc.

>

>Glad you made it onto HERB!

>>

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 08:41:30 -0700

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From:         Dianne Gillard <phxhawk@INDIRECT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Sleep Problems

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



My sleep problem was due to hormonal changes. St.Johnswort really worked

wonders for me. I heat up a cup of warm water and add the tincture to

that. Now, I sleep like a baby! Hope this helps!!

"Reality is just a collective hunch."

                               Lily Tomlin



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:55:20 -0700

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From:         "Georgann K. Cunney" <curious@AIMNET.COM>

Subject:      Re: Help and Herbal Teachers

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



This is a test.  I have not been successful at posting, they are being

returned to me.  Somehow though my last message got through to some, I'm not

sure how.  So what is the exact procedure for posting, the right adress

for the herb group?  Maybe this will get through and then I won't have this

question.  Otherwise I will try sending it in a reply.  Or is it when you

post, it gets sent to everyone except the personwho posts?  But that

wouldn't explain my postings being returned.



Dianne, Thanks for your reply.  Who are you doing an herbal study with?  I

know Michael Tierra's book "Planetary Herbology", I have a copy and have

used it quite a few times to look up information.  I like the concept of

his format integrating Western, Chinese and Ayurvedic herbalism.  I am

more familiar with Leslie Tierra's book, "The Herbs of Life". which I have

read cover to cover. It is a very good introduction to Chinese herbalism

and philosophy of health and healing.  I think one of the Tierra's will

also be teaching at CIIS (Calif Inst of Integral Studies) next fall. I am

learning or getting so much information right now I don't seem to have a

favorite book, except for one of David Hoffman's which we are using in

his class Western Phytotherapy,"Therapeutic Herbalism".  It is the book he

uses for his correspondence course in Phytotherapy.  I'd like to hear about

your program.



Rick, thank you also.  How did each of you receive my posting?  And what

is Michael Tierra's program like?  How would you describe it?  I think I

would miss the presence of an instructor.  They are an important element

for support and inspiration on top of the information and great stories

they provide.



Georgann

curious@aimnet.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:41:00 -0800

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From:         Tania Gutierrez ESD <GUTIERREZ@EDLANE.LANE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: ma huang,gymnema,zinc mag sulfate

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



Ma Huang is Chinese Ephedra.  It's a cold remedy, but is also a very strong

stimulant.



Tania



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 12 Apr 1995 02:43:03 -0400

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From:         George Struk <geostar@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG>

Subject:      CFIDS protocol

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950410125410.26859B-100000@u.cc.utah.edu> from

            "bruce bammes" at Apr 10, 95 01:18:04 pm



To Bruce and anyone else interested I've put together a program over the

years that has helped somewhat but by no means completely.



CFIDS prog:

Lysine

C (up to 15 grams a day)

B

DHEA

Kombucha

714-x

Oregon Grape, garlic, licorice, astragalus, dandelion

acidophilus

live foods

Carnitine

L-glutamine

Congaplex (Standard Process)

Co-Q10

Cat's Claw



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 13 Apr 1995 00:10:00 -0700

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 19 Nov 1995 13:56:43 +0000

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Jo Carby <9137613@LEWIS.SMS.ED.AC.UK>

Organization: Student Mail Service

Subject:      Research in Chinese Medicine



Hi,  my  name's  Jo  Carby  and  I'm  an  undergraduate  student  nurse

at  the  University  of  Edinburgh.



I'm  currently  writing  my  dissertation  on  Chinese  Medicine  and I  am

in  need  of  some  help  regarding  references.



Current  research   on  the  efficacy  of  Chinese  Herbal  Medicine   involves

isolating  'active  ingredients'  from  the  herbs.  However,  it  is

apparently

claimed  by  many  in  the  field  of  Chinese  Herbal  medicine  that  this

reduces the  efficay  of  the  treatment,  i.e.  the  herbs  need  to  be

administered  in  their  entirety,  often  as  an  ingredient  in  a  'recipie'

of

other  herbs.



What  I  would  like  to  ask  is  if  anyone  knows  of  any  research  done

that  supports  this  arguement,  or  indeed  contradicts  it.



Thanks  in  anticipation  of  any  replies,

Jo  (e-mail  address:   9137613@lewis.sms.ed.ac.uk  )



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 06:46:49 U

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From:         Arlene Havlark <arlene.havlark@ABLMAIL.DS.BOEING.COM>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 15 Apr 199

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



      Reply to:   RE>HERB Digest - 15 Apr 1995 to 16 Apr 1995



My partner suffered a serious injury to her arm when she slipped while

gardening and put her arm through a window.  The ulnar nerve and muscle

fibers were severed, and she lost a lot of blood.  She had emergency

micro-surgery, and is now on the mend.



She has "zinging", especially at night.  She describes it as if hitting your

"crazy" bone really hard.  She also has aching (like a toothache) in the arm.

Any suggestions for herbs to help calm the nerves to help her sleep, or to

help heal nerve and mucle?



Arlene Havlark

arlene.havlark@ablmail.ds.boeing.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:15:00 -0700

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From:         Beth Cuculich <Beth.Cuculich@NCAL.KAIPERM.ORG>

Subject:      Hyperactivity Help

Comments: To: Herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



Help!  Last week someone posted some suggestions on how to deal with

hyperactivity and I didn't listen to my intuition and save/copy it.  So, this

weekend I found out that they've just decided that my niece has ADD and I

don't have the information.  Could someone please send it to me or point me to

the person that posted it in the first place?I would REALLY appreciate it.



TIA,



Beth.Cuculich@ncal.kaiperm.org



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:23:00 -0600

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From:         Jannell Shaw <Jannell.Shaw@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>

Subject:      Acidophilus



Hello everyone,

This is a basic question. I have a friend who suffers from extreme

digestive sensitivities and constipation. She is also lactose sensitive.

We are thinking that acidophilus could offer a solution to part of the

problem. Could anyone give us some more information, or personal

experience using it?



Thank you.



Jannell Shaw



jannell.shaw@m.cc.utah.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:08:07 BST

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From:         Christopher Hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Nerve Damage



I have always found massage oils based on

St John's wort (Hypericum perf.) to be most useful.

Usually adding a liitettle lavender and/or

rosemary essential oil, according to indications.



Lavender is more soothing and Rosemary more stimulating

to hrealing.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:55:12 -0400

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From:         "Michael A. Reynolds" <ak654@DETROIT.FREENET.ORG>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 15 Apr 199

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Scar massage with a therapeutic oil can be a very effective

technique, but ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE PERMISSION FROM YOUR SURGEON

OR HAND THERAPIST OR  PHYSICAL THERAPIST OR OCCUPATIONAL

THERAPIST.  This kind of laceration needs some healing time

before massage can safely begin.  Let those sutured nerve ends

repair themselves a bit, first.



--

p

x



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:52:18 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: Acidophilus

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950417161735.6757B-100000@u.cc.utah.edu>



On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Jannell Shaw wrote:

> This is a basic question. I have a friend who suffers from extreme

> digestive sensitivities and constipation. She is also lactose sensitive.

> We are thinking that acidophilus could offer a solution to part of the

> problem. Could anyone give us some more information, or personal

> experience using it?



Seeing that the risk is so low, why not just try it (and then tell us how

it worked).



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:14:46 -0800

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         gisela hoschek <hoschek@JEEVES.UCSD.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 15 Apr 199

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>        Reply to:   RE>HERB Digest - 15 Apr 1995 to 16 Apr 1995

She has "zinging", especially at night.  She describes it as if hitting your

>"crazy" bone really hard.  She also has aching (like a toothache) in the arm.

> Any suggestions for herbs to help calm the nerves to help her sleep, or to

>help heal nerve and mucle?



I am also interested in any nerve-mussle tonic. My motor-nerves were

injured by a virus.



Gisela



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:46:43 +0200

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From:         Popowicz Alison <popowicz@SAPPEY.GRENOBLE.HP.COM>

Comments: To: compmed@wuvmd.bitnet, gfulmed@ndsuvm1.bitnet,

        glb-hlt@uicvm.bitnet, healr-l@gsuvm1.bitnet, inhealth@rpitsvm.bitnet,

        lasmed-l@taunivm.bitnet, medinf-l@dearn.bitnet, smdm-l@dartcms1.bitnet



Hello everyone,



(I apologise if you've received this message more than once - I've sent

it to several mailing lists!  Sorry...)



I'm trying to find some information for a guitarist who has cyst

problems with his wrists.  Apparently he has two types of

cyst - cysts that are "ganglion" and which are more-or-less

free within the tissue of the wrist, and another, more

problematic cyst which is actually within the bone of the wrist

itself. This cyst is causing a lot of pain. This is definitley

_not_ carpal tunnel syndrome - the cysts were identified by MRI.



Surgery has been suggested, but there is no guarantee that

it will be successful.  What is _does_ guarantee is a year

without touching the guitar - his livelihood!



It is possible that these cysts are the result of sporting

activity when he was younger.



If anyone has any suggestions, information about this

condition, alternative therapies, _anything_, please

could you let me know?



PLEASE COULD YOU REPLY DIRECTLY TO MY EMAIL ADDRESS, because I am

not a member of this list at the moment!



Thank you for your help,



Alison

alison_popowicz@grenoble.hp.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:51:48 EDT

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From:         Elaine Fasano <RFAS8815@URIACC.URI.EDU>



Hi,

 I am new to the list & I have some very basic questions. I have a

great interest in medicinal herbs but don"t know where to begin. Any-

one out ther have any suggestions as to how to get started, which

herbs I should start with, etc?

Thanks for any info you can offer.

Elaine Fasano

email address rfas8815@uriacc.uri.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:44:55 -0700

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Bob Gorga <bobg@ORO.NET>

Subject:      Re: HERB Digest - 15 Apr 199

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



re: Nerve Damage with external wound.



A compress of Comfrey leaf and root is both a soothing demulcent

and promotes the growth and repair of damaged tissue.



St. John's Wort can also be effective internally in tincture form

for nerve damage.  This is usually the first to try.

If the wound is closed the oil form can be applied.



Scullcap, Chamomile, Oatstraw tea are all relaxing as well as tonics

to the nerves.



Yarrow, hawthorne, ginger may be useful circulatory system tonics to

bring blood to the small capillaries of the area and help the body

do its own healing.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 1995 01:52:34 -0700

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



> Hi,

>   I am new to the list & I have some very basic questions. I have a

> great interest in medicinal herbs but don"t know where to begin. Any-

> one out ther have any suggestions as to how to get started, which

> herbs I should start with, etc?

> Thanks for any info you can offer.

> Elaine Fasano

> email address rfas8815@uriacc.uri.edu



Don't get overwhelmed with the multitude of herbal information available. Pick a

few herbs and learn them well.



Howie

C & W Herbs



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:14:03 EDT

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Elaine Fasano <RFAS8815@URIACC.URI.EDU>



I have discovered a product (Nature's Bounty) that is specifically for  women.



There are many but the one I am referring to is Feminine Support for meno-

pausal women. In addition to the various vitamins & minerals it is in a

base of Dong Quai,Sarsaparilla, Passion Flower & Spirulina. What do these

herbs provide & is itworth taking?



Thanks,

Elaine Fasano



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:57:43 +0200

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From:         "Dr. S. Shapiro" <toukie@ZUI.UNIZH.CH>

Subject:      Need Chinese names for med. plants



Dear Colleagues;



   If anyone can supply me with the Chinese names for the plants



                      Lonicera japonica Thunb.

                      Magnolia officinalis Rehd. et wils.



kindly contact me directly at



                      toukie@zui.unizh.ch





   Thanks in advance to all responders.





Sioncerely,



(Dr.) S. Shapiro

Zuerich



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:28:27 -0400

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Valerie Rankow <vrankow@LI.NET>

Subject:      Re: Need Chinese names for med. plants

Comments: To: "Dr. S. Shapiro" <toukie@ZUI.UNIZH.CH>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <9504200657.AA41299@rzurs10.unizh.ch>



>

>      If anyone can supply me with the Chinese names for the plants

>

>                         Lonicera japonica Thunb.

>                         Magnolia officinalis Rehd. et wils.

>

> kindly contact me directly at

>

>                         toukie@zui.unizh.ch

>

>

>      Thanks in advance to all responders.

>

>



The chinese transliteration for Lonicera japonica is Chin-yin-hua

The Chinese trasliteration for Magnolia officinalis is Hou-pu



according to _How To Treat Yourself With Chinese Herbs_.

by Hong-Yen Hsu (OHAI, 1993).



This is a very good introductory text on Chinese herbal remedies.



Valerie

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:54:21 +0800

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:07:01 +0200

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From:         Carlos Sinogas <sinogas@TPONE.TELEPAC.PT>

Subject:      Re: Nerve Damage

Comments: To: arlene.havlark@ABLMAIL.DS.BOEING.COM

Comments: cc: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



>

>She has "zinging", especially at night.  She describes it as if hitting your

>"crazy" bone really hard.  She also has aching (like a toothache) in the arm.

> Any suggestions for herbs to help calm the nerves to help her sleep, or to

>help heal nerve and mucle?

>

>Arlene Havlark

>arlene.havlark@ablmail.ds.boeing.com

>

Arlene,

I would suggest you to use an extract of hypericum perforatum, rosemary officinalis and camphor in olive oil for massage of affected region.

Carlos Sinogas



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:49:22 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "S. Fletcher" <fletch@RAIN.ORG>

Subject:      Beechwood Creosote

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:49:00 CST

>From: "Geiselman,Paula-Psych 2695" <geiselpj%pbrc@mhs.pbrc.edu>

>To: paracelsus@teleport.com

>Subject: Beechwood Creosote

>Sender: owner-paracelsus@teleport.com

>Precedence: bulk

>Status: O

>X-Status:

>

>Does anyone know anything about the use of beechwood creosote with

>Parkinson patients or anything as to where one could obtain beechwood

>creosote?  I have been told that it was used by dentists some years back as

>a temporary for a root canal.  I have heard that a dentist in Berkeley, CA,

>used it on a patient with Parkinsons disease and found serendipitously that

>it treated the motor problems.  It is my understanding that that dentist

>then tried using the beechwood creosote on three more Parkinsons patients

>and found each time that it treated the disorder.  Unfortunately, nobody

>seems to be able to find any now.  If you know anything about this, please

>let me hear from you.  Thanks, Paula J. Geiselman, Ph.D., Pennington

>Biomedical Research Center

>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~

Fletcher Information Services                  Informed Patient Services

                              fletch@rain.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:45:10 CET

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From:         "Dr. Horvath Geza" <HORVATH@KKI.DOTE.HU>

Organization: Dept. of Clinical Chemistry



does anybody know anything about the south american plant unan de

gato ? could you tell me its latin name ? or is it a drug? thank you

in advance!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:06:14 PST

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From:         "FRED W. BACH , TRIUMF Operations" <music@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA>

Subject:      Fine articles on Garlic available.

Comments: To: HOLISTIC@SIUCVMB.BITNET



Hi,



 There were two very good articles on garlic and its

 cancer-preventing properties on Usenet newsgroup

 alt.folklore.herbs.



 They are a little too long to post here.



 I'll send them on request.



Cheers,



Fred W. Bach  music@erich.triumf.ca

These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.

They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:13:59 -0400

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From:         Tina Portillo <THUNDRBLT@AOL.COM>

Subject:      HELP



I AM A 39 YEAR OLD SINGLE MOM W/2 SMALL CHILDREN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT I WORK

AT A NEWSPAPER FROM 4 TILL 12:30AM AND HAVE TO GET UP AT 6:50AM TO GET THE

KIDS TO SCHOOL. THAT'S RIGHT NOT ENOUGH SLEEP, EVEN IF I COME BACK AND GO TO

SLEEP I WAKE UP FEELING LIKE I HAVE A HANGOVER THE REST OF THE DAY. HAVING

SOMEONE COME IN TO HELP IS NOT AN OPTION (FINANCIAL) AND NEITHER IS THEIR

FATHER. WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT IS IF THERE IS ANYTHING HERBAL I CAN TAKE(IN

ANY FORM) TO HELP ME GET THROUGH THE DAY FEELING BETTER SO I DON'T TAKE THIS

OUT ON THE KIDS. WHICH I HAVE BEEN DOING. VITAMINS ONLY GO SO FAR. I'M SO

TIRED ALL THE TIME I HAVE A HARD TIME COPING WITH EVERYDAY LIFE. I'D

APPRECIATE ANY HELP POSSIBLE. THANKS, TINA



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:47:03 EDT

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From:         Elaine Fasano <RFAS8815@URIACC.URI.EDU>



I posted this earlier this week but I don't think it went through.

My question is about a product called Feminine Support by Nature's

Bounty. They have several but I am referring to the one for menepausal

women. In addition to the vitamins & minerals it is in a base of Dong

Quai,Sarsaparilla,Passion Flower & Spirulina.

What do these herbs do? Is it worth taking? Any info would be

appreciated.

Thanks,

Elaine



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:27:44 -0700

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From:         jstclare at CARET1 <jstclare@CCLINK.FHCRC.ORG>

Subject:      HELP

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



        Hi Tina!



        I have been in situations similar to yours - Yuck!  The

        thing I found gave me the most noticable improvement in

        energy is "Km", a yucky tasting but fabulous liquid herbal

        supplement made by Matol and sold by distributor.  (I can

        give you more info if you give me your email address - my

        mail system only shows the list address on messages from

        HERB.)



        Other supplements that people swear by are bee pollen,

        spirulina, ginseng, and a meat-free, whole foods diet a la

        John McDougall, Dean Ornish, Fit For Life, etc.  But I would

        suggest you research any of these things before you try

        them, because ginseng, as an example, in counterproductive

        for some people.



        I would definitely stay away from those ma huang/ephedra or

        "Pep" type products, because like caffine, they work for

        occasional use, but will turn against you with regular use

        (I've been there!).



        Good luck!  -  Janeira (jstclare@cclink.fhcrc.org)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:11:19 MDT

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From:         "Stephen Campbell @ Nmhu" <campbell_s@MERLIN.NMHU.EDU>

Subject:      new

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



any of  Michael Moore's books would be a good start, well versed in pharm

acognasy as well as folkloric use, & he's a user-friendly writer.

"medicinal plants of the mountain west"

"medicinal plants of the desert & canyon west"

"los remedios"



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:14:35 MDT

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From:         "Stephen Campbell @ Nmhu" <campbell_s@MERLIN.NMHU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Need Chinese names for med. plants

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



I've found MEDLINE to be very helpful as a source for this kind of info.

contact me directly for details.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:11:08 CST

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From:         "Davis Rhonda (davisr@nwrc.gov)" <davisr@OSPREY.NWRC.GOV>

Subject:      Listserv manager only -- signoff

Comments: To: maxlife@gibbs.oit.unc.edu



   I'm sorry to have to bother you like this but I need your help in

   signing off this listserv.  Our facility has been having computer and

   gateway difficulty and we have been asked to sign off all listservs.

   Please sign me off from your system, we have a gateway problem that

   prevents us from signing off from our facility.  The address you

   should be able to use should be: davisr@nwrc.gov or

   davisr@osprey.nwrc.gov.



   Thank you for your assistance and forgive me for this inconvenience.



   Sincerely,

   Rhonda Davis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:16:40 -0500

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Deborah Duchon <antdadx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: HELP

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.bitnet@GSUVM1.GSU.EDU

In-Reply-To:  <950421101358_91034143@aol.com> from "Tina Portillo" at Apr 21,

            95 10:13:59 am



I don't think there is any substitute for sleep.  You sound so stressed

out. Isn't there anything you can do about your schedule, like working a

day shift?  Anyway, I find that ginseng and bladderwrack help my

endurance. Maybe they'll help you, too. --





Deborah Duchon

antdadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Georgia State University

404/651-1038



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:38:58 -0500

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From:         ARENZA THIGPEN - ' ' - AKA 'ICE PHANTOM' <ATHIGPEN@TUSK.BITNET>

Organization: Tuskegee University

Subject:      Re: HELP



Hi Tina!



I know this might sound off the wall, but give them apples to eat.

I don't know how cool it is in your area, but a nice cool room with apples will

have them purring like kittens.



Good Luck!

Arenza  athigpen@acd.tusk.edu



P.S.  I love it when a plan comes together!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:18:53 -0600

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From:         Kathleen M Ford <kat@SELWAY.UMT.EDU>

Subject:      Southewestern Address

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <01HPLVMQZ4PY000H50@Acd.Tusk.Edu>



Can anyone give me the address for Southwestern Naturopathic School?

It would be appreciated.  Kat



Please respond to me personally I would rather not take up the groups

space and time.  Thanks Kat@selway.umt.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:51:10 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Paul Bergner <bergner@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Southewestern Address

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.ULT.3.91.950421161701.10245A-100000@selway.umt.edu> from

            "Kathleen M Ford" at Apr 21, 95 04:18:53 pm



>

> Can anyone give me the address for Southwestern Naturopathic School?

> It would be appreciated.  Kat

>

> Please respond to me personally I would rather not take up the groups

> space and time.  Thanks Kat@selway.umt.edu

>



Southwest College of Naturopathic medicine and Health Sciences

6535 East Osborn

Scottsdale, AZ  85251

602-990-7424









   Paul Bergner

   Editor, MEDICAL HERBALISM

   bergner@teleport.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:47:43 +0300

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      contents of herbfaq posted on AFH



Contents of the scientific -biased FAQ for Medicinal Plants on AFH,

Version: 1.01, Last updated: 20.4.1995



I've posted it to Alt.folklore.herbs yesterday. It's also available by

ftp at sunsite.unc.edu under

pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbs/faqs/herbfaq-1.AFH

and herbfaq-2.AFH.



==========

CONTENTS

-----

1.0 Introduction

2.0 Frequently asked questions

2.1 Valeriana/Valium

2.2 Yohimbe - ADDITION

2.3 Absinthe - ADDITION

3.0 Wonder medicines of the month - don't take these seriously:

3.1 Es**ac and Ko***cha

3.2 The Ming Dynasty Web site

3.3 These miraculous Algae - ADDITION

3.4 Really pushing it - Enrich Intl - ADDITION

4.0 Good Printed Sources

4.1 Good Books on Herbal Medicine for the beginner - CHANGED

4.2 Good Books for further studies - CHANGED

4.3 Good Magazines - CHANGED

5.0 Other sources

5.1 Napralert - online commercial database - CHANGED

5.2 Medline - online commercial database

5.3 Good Herbprograms for the PC - CHANGED

5.4 Good Herbprograms for the Macintosh - CHANGED

5.5 Herbal CD-Rom - ADDITION

6.0 Apprenticeships offered lately - CHANGED

7.0 Check these sites - CHANGED

7.1 Medicinal Herb Archives at sunSITE.unc.edu - CHANGED

7.2 Interesting WWW pages - CHANGED

8.0 Mailing lists

8.1 The Herblist

8.2 The Aromatherapy list

8.3 The Holistic list - CHANGED

8.4 The Ko***cha list

8.5 The Paracelsus Mailing list - ADDITION

8.6 The OrMed Mailing list - ADDITION

9.0 Related newsgroups - CHANGED

10.0 Herb Disclaimer - UNDER CONSTRUCTION

10.1 Pointer to contraindications file - ADDITION



==========



Having fun,

HeK

--

Henriette Kress                    HeK@hetta.pp.fi

      Sunny again in Helsinki, Finland.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 1995 15:09:37 EDT

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From:         Laurier Cote <cotel@GRICS.EDUPAC.QC.CA>

Subject:      INFO REQUEST ON CATAPLEXY



If there is someone who knows about a non-parmacological treatment for

cataplexy, please email me directly or leave your message to the list.

Your help would be very appreciated. Here is my full address:

Laurier Cote

p.o. box 2077 New Richmond (Quebec) Canada G0C 2B0

email: cotel@grics.edupac.qc.ca

Thanks! Laurier.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 22 Apr 1995 16:11:21 -0500

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From:         Algy Krebbs <sward@FRANK.MTSU.EDU>

Subject:      New Herb WWW page

Comments: To: Gardentalk <gardens-l@ukcc.uky.edu>



Fellow gardeners and herb enthusiasts,

 For the last couple of months I've been gathering URLs concerning

herbs and their uses.  I've gotten together about sixty links and compiled

them into one convenient page that I think is a good starting point for

anyone browsing the web in pursuit of this topic.  The address is:

     http://frank.mtsu.edu/~sward/herb.html

Please stop by and leave a note.  Suggestions are welcome.



Steve Ward



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:56:45 -0400

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From:         Nathan  Berger <Nansue@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Summer bumps!

Comments: cc: snberger@ix.netcom.com



Here's a strange one for you-- my wife gets little itchy bumps on her hands

every year in the spring, as soon as the sun gets stronger and hotter. They

appear filled with clear fluid, and each little bump will ultimately end up

with a small, red ring around it.



They last until the fall, when the sun is not as strong. Then they go away,

not to appear until the following spring. They are great fun :(



When she goes outside, she covers her hands with light cotton gloves, but it

sure would be nice if someone out there could suggest another solution!



Thanks, everyone for your help!!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:54:39 -0400

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From:         Michael Novar <mnovo@FREENET.SCRI.FSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Kombu

Comments: To: Harold Bucks <HBUCKS@DELPHI.COM>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <01HPM6ISJ28M96Y4PV@delphi.com>



Dear Harold

to get up to the minute info re Kombucha you can join the Kombucha list

      kombucha-request@shore.net

in the body type

      subscribe

      end



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Flask Bulletin - Orchid Planting Supply Catalog -via email - NATIVE

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On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Harold Bucks wrote:



> I would appreciate information on Kombucha tea also.  I'm relatively new

> and have seen references to it but do not know what it is.  Thanks.

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:49:29 -0800

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         gisela hoschek <hoschek@JEEVES.UCSD.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Summer bumps!

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



>Here's a strange one for you-- my wife gets little itchy bumps on her hands

>every year in the spring, as soon as the sun gets stronger and hotter. They

>appear filled with clear fluid, and each little bump will ultimately end up

>with a small, red ring around it.

>

>They last until the fall, when the sun is not as strong. Then they go away,

>not to appear until the following spring. They are great fun :(

>

>When she goes outside, she covers her hands with light cotton gloves, but it

>sure would be nice if someone out there could suggest another solution!

>

>Thanks, everyone for your help!!





I used to suffer from this affliction too for a few years during my late

teens and early twenties, diagnosed as heat rash. Medication I received,

didn't have any affect on it. I eventually outgrew it. That's my guess.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 04:32:51 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Elaine Fasano <RFAS8815@URIACC.URI.EDU>



I agree; it sounda like heat rash.  What my mother did for me when I

was a kid was to take baths in baking soda. It helps to relieve the

discomfort. Try it, it might help.



Elaine Fasano



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:26:00 PDT

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         vic hlushak <vhlushak@AWINC.COM>

Subject:      high blood pressure



My uncle has very high blood pressure.  Does anyone have any ideas for him?

I heard that lecithin is good for that.



Any help appreciated!



Vic

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:05:07 CET

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Dr. Horvath Geza" <HORVATH@KKI.DOTE.HU>

Organization: Dept. of Clinical Chemistry



could anyone tell me what are the main components of the extract of

uncaria tomentosa?

thanks in advance to all those who answer my question



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:30:36 CST

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         "Davis Rhonda (davisr@nwrc.gov)" <davisr@OSPREY.NWRC.GOV>

Subject:      Listserv manager only - signoff dilema



   Please take me off of your listserv.  I have tried to sign off before

   but there is something wrong with the gateway to my address.  Thanks.

   Rhonda Davis

   davisr@nwrc.gov or davisr@osprey.nwrc.gov or whatever you have me

   listed as there



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:42:27 CST6CDT

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Sandra Olson <SANDYO@CC1.UCA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Heat rash

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



> I agree; it sounda like heat rash.  What my mother did for me when I

> was a kid was to take baths in baking soda. It helps to relieve the

> discomfort. Try it, it might help.





I had this problem as a child, I got the bumps on the back of my

neck, and in my arm pits.  My mother used to use a powder recommended

by her pharmacist, a heat rash powder, Mexsana, I believe.  The

engredients I'm not quite sure of, but I think I remember them as

being Corn starch, and camphor.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sandy Olson

Acquisitions Assistant                "No one is

University of Central Arkansas        useless in this world

201 Donaghey St.                      who lightens the burdens

Conway, AR  72035-0001                of it for another."

sandyo@cc1.uca.edu                     Charles Dickens



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:30:29 CDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Shirley Bates <shirley@BATESX.CS.HOU.COMPAQ.COM>

Subject:      Re: Summer bumps!

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <950423085643_93051839@aol.com>; from "Nathan  Berger" at Apr 23,

            95 8:56 am



>

> Here's a strange one for you-- my wife gets little itchy bumps on her hands

> every year in the spring, as soon as the sun gets stronger and hotter. They

> appear filled with clear fluid, and each little bump will ultimately end up

> with a small, red ring around it.





I'm new to this list, but that sounds like an allergy to something that grows

from spring to fall.



My niece gets the same thing, but when they did an allergy test, it turned

out that she was allergic to just about everything that grows around her

house.



I consume bee pollen and locally produced raw honey.  This seems to help

me a great deal with my allergies.  I also get allergy shots on a regular

basis.  It seems the only thing that bothers me these days is mold spores.



Best of luck to your wife.



--

Shirley

shirley@batesx.cs.hou.compaq.com



                          &&&&&

                        &&&&&&&&&

                       &&|~_~_~|&&

                       &&(\0-0/)&&

                  ---ooOO--(_)--OOoo-------

                  |

                  | when i breathe in

                  |   i breathe the leaves

                  | when i breathe out

                  |   the leaves breathe me

                  | we are breath of life

                  |   each to the other

                  | both essential to the

                  |   whole

                  |

                  -------------jo mccormick



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:54:13 EDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Comments:     To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

            <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments:     Resent-From: Donna Hummel <DHUMMEL@PSUHMC>

Comments:     Originally-From: jstclare at CARET1 <jstclare@CCLINK.FHCRC.ORG>

From:         Donna Hummel <DHUMMEL@PSUHMC.BITNET>

Subject:      HELP



I used KM for about 1 1/2 years, then it seemed as if I'd reached a saturation

point and found all of my old syptoms reappearing.  Maybe I did something

wrong...I do know that when I first began taking it I felt wonderful though,

as I told one of my friend's, " I feel like I think I'm supposed to feel as a

real person".  I also began exercising, walking 20 - 30 miles a week at a good

quick pace.  As my daughter got older and more involved I eventually stopped

the walking because I couldn't find the time...may be when the KM stopped work-

ing too...



I would say that it's worth a try for you....

Good luck,

Donna





Donna Hummel                         Pennsylvania State University

Information Systems                  Milton S. Hershey Medical Center

dhummel@psuhmc.hmc.psu.edu



----------------------------Original message----------------------------

        Hi Tina!



        I have been in situations similar to yours - Yuck!  The

        thing I found gave me the most noticable improvement in

        energy is "Km", a yucky tasting but fabulous liquid herbal

        supplement made by Matol and sold by distributor.  (I can

        give you more info if you give me your email address - my

        mail system only shows the list address on messages from

        HERB.)



        Other supplements that people swear by are bee pollen,

        spirulina, ginseng, and a meat-free, whole foods diet a la

        John McDougall, Dean Ornish, Fit For Life, etc.  But I would

        suggest you research any of these things before you try

        them, because ginseng, as an example, in counterproductive

        for some people.



        I would definitely stay away from those ma huang/ephedra or

        "Pep" type products, because like caffine, they work for

        occasional use, but will turn against you with regular use

        (I've been there!).



        Good luck!  -  Janeira (jstclare@cclink.fhcrc.org)

    HELP                                                                    -0



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:23:47 -0400

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

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From:         "Michael A. Reynolds" <ak654@DETROIT.FREENET.ORG>

Subject:      Re: Fine articles on Garlic available.

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Please send me the two garlic articles.  Thanks!



--

p

x



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:48:53 -0400

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From:         Reference Librarian <MFRY@BROOK.EDU>

Subject:      benefits of Cayenne

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



I have just started taking a blend of cayenne and other herbs by Heart

Foods.  Can anyone on the list expound on the benefits of cayenne?

I don't know much about herbs.  Some background; my boyfriend went to one

of his company's sites in Georgia and the people there told him about these

herbs they were taking.  At first a few people where taking them but soon the

whole office was hooked.  They said they felt better than they had in a

long time and even looked better.  I've only been taking them for a few days

and they only thing I have noticed is a slight burning sensation in my

stomach and the feeling of being hungry all the time.  Thanks for your

insights.  By the way, it is the company's mildest cayenne blend.

Also any info about the company would be appreciated.



Mary Fry

MFRY@BROOK.EDU



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:33:55 -0400

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From:         Rick Scott <ricks@VIVANET.COM>

Subject:      Dittany of Crete

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



Greetings!



Does anyone have information on the herb Dittany of Crete (origanum dictamnus)?

Relatives recently went to Crete and brought me back some.

Fuzzy oregano/marjoram-type leaves with a minty, spicy taste.

I made a rather weak infusion (2 teaspoons/cup water), and the effects were

quite dramatic: relaxant, sedative, analgesic, somewhat euphoric. Produced a

slight numbness on my tongue.

What IS this stuff?

How closely related is it to oregano and marjoram?



Rick



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:27:06 MDT

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From:         Megan A Harris <JY20@UTEP.BITNET>

Subject:      Re[2]: Fine articles on Garlic available.

In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of MON 24 APR 1995 09:23:47 MDT



I would appreciate receiving the articles on garlic as well.



My email address is jy20%utep@utepvm.utep.edu



Thanks, Megan Harris



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:53:40 GMT

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From:         Resinfo <Resinfo@RESINFO.DEMON.CO.UK>

Subject:      Re: Summer bumps!

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



In message  <m0s3Rxt-0002KXC@batesx.cs.hou.compaq.com> HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de writes:

> >

> > Here's a strange one for you-- my wife gets little itchy bumps on her hands

> > every year in the spring, as soon as the sun gets stronger and hotter. They

> > appear filled with clear fluid, and each little bump will ultimately end up

> > with a small, red ring around it.

>



I think we should be careful about mixing heat rash/bumps up with the other

form of itchy bumps with "clear fluid".  This sounds very similar to something

I had till about the age of 45.  Not only did I get it on the hands but also

the feet.  I say feet, but strange as it may seem the left foot was often the

one to suffer...I'm right handed!  During the 'pollen season' has your wife

cut or grazed herself?  When this happened to me, the little bumps would

appear (very small) but en mass!



Solution!  Well if there was a herbal option I would have used it.  I tried

a number of anti allergy creams, but only one worked called Phenergan

which _was_ manufactured by May and Baker.  The story goes that it cost too

much to produce and there was insufficient demand.  There is an alternative,

I have not wish to attract the wrath of the list by putting forward the other

option, however if you approach a chemist and ask them to produce something

with a similar formula, your wife should feel a marked improvement within a

day or so and find they're gone within ten days.  Thereafter the moment

your wife senses they're coming back apply the cream again..it should stop

em in their tracks:-)



They used to annoy me beyond belief, so your wife has my full sympathy.  Oh,

and don't forget to read the labels instructions carefully...it was a _total_

answer for me, but your wife's allergy/skin sensitivity might be different

to mine!



mr t.a.t.

--

Resinfo in the U.K.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:28:09 EDT

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From:         Laurier Cote <cotel@GRICS.EDUPAC.QC.CA>

Subject:      INFO REQUEST



I would like to know if someone knows the secondary effects

of ANAPHRANIL and DEXIDRINE. Maybe those names are in french.

I don't have any compendium under the hand for now.

Thanks!

cotel@grics.edupac.qc.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:29:51 -0700

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Steven Finkelman <slfink@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      Re: your mail

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>

In-Reply-To:  <MAILQUEUE-101.950425110507.755@kki.dote.hu>



On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Dr. Horvath Geza wrote:



> could anyone tell me what are the main components of the extract of

> uncaria tomentosa?

> thanks in advance to all those who answer my question

>

the closest thing I can find is uncariae Ramulus et Uncus,

common name Gambir vine,





According the _Oriental Materica Medisa_ by HongYen Tsu it consists of

the following:



Rhynchophylline,

corynoxeine,

isorhynchophylline,

isocorynoxeine,

hirudutine,18

19-dehydrohirdutine,

dihydrocorynantheine

corynantheind

mitraphylline







HTH,



Steven Finkelman                |        FoxPro developer and designer

DATA/Massage                    |        of strategic tools

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 1995 09:56:41 MDT

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From:         "Stephen Campbell @ Nmhu" <campbell_s@MERLIN.NMHU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: good magazines

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de



journal of ethnopharmacology is available at most college libraries,

herbalgram is available by subscription from the american botanical council

in boulder, colo. they do have an e-mail address, i'll try to find & post

it later, the american botanical council is doing important & valuable

work; educating an increasingly broad base of people on the validity of

botanical medicine, encouraging world-wide research , lobbying on our behalf

in washington to protect our rights to choose. they also have a mind-boggling

"bookstore" of publications available by mail-order. i encourage supporting

them with your membership.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:46:28 MDT

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

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From:         "Stephen Campbell @ Nmhu" <campbell_s@MERLIN.NMHU.EDU>

Subject:      herbalgram

Comments: To: herb%trearn.bitnet@vm.gmd.de



I'm unable to find the American Botanical Council e-mail address, but they

can be reached at; 512-331-8868 fax 512-331-1924************

P.O. box 201660  Austin, Texas 78720********-

Herbalgram is (arguably) the best publication in the field.Every issue is

packed with information. Subscription also gives you access to literature

searches from their database, and information on schools, seminars, conferences

books, tapes, disks etc. The editorial staff includes; James A. Duke,

Norman Farnsworth, Varro Tyler, Andrew Weil, Rob McCaleb.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:23:53 -0500

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Liz Vose <liz@ERVOSE.MV.COM>

Subject:      Re: INFO REQUEST

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>I would like to know if someone knows the secondary effects

>of ANAPHRANIL and DEXIDRINE. Maybe those names are in french.

>I don't have any compendium under the hand for now.

>Thanks!

>cotel@grics.edupac.qc.ca



I found Dexedrine in my pill book. *Possible* side effects are

palpitations, restlessness, overstimulation, dizziness, sleeplessness,

increased blood pressure, rapid heartbeat.  *Less common* side effects are

euphoria, hallucinations, muscle spasms, tremors, headache,dryness of the

mouth, unpleasant taste, diarrhea, constipation, stomach upset, itching,

loss of sex drive, (rarely) psychotic drug reactions.  It states under

warnings that it is highly addictive and that one should not increase

dosage without doctors permission.  I guess it becomes less effective after

a while and people tend to take more, which is rather dangerous.



I did not find Anaphranil



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:40:29 -0400

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From:         Nicla Gargano <ngargano@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Carnations, cloves, clove oil... (fwd)



> I'm doing a linguistic study on the "Carnation", and have found numerous

> overlaps with the flower and the spice, especially in Europe, ie.,

> Italy and France. I am interested in digging into the history and

folklore , usage, etc., on the topic. Can anyone help?

> Any suggestions? Reading materials? Personal anecdotes?

>

> Your help is very much appreciated.

> Reagards,

> --

> Nicla A. Gargano

> University of Toronto

> Dept. of Italian Studies, Graduate Student

> E-mail: ngargano@epas.utoronto.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 08:57:06 +0200

Reply-To:     Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Antoni Konitz <akonitz@HYPNOS.CHEM.PG.GDA.PL>

Subject:      Re: INFO REQUEST

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.bitnet@plearn.edu.pl>



>I would like to know if someone knows the secondary effects

>of ANAPHRANIL and DEXIDRINE. Maybe those names are in french.

>I don't have any compendium under the hand for now.

>Thanks!

>cotel@grics.edupac.qc.ca



I found DEXEDRINE as one of the names od amfetamine sulfate.



ANAFRANIL (Geigy, Germany) is one of the names of CLOMIPRAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE

- antidepressant, chloro derivative of IMIPRAMINE. So side effects

should be close to parent compound IMIPRAMINE. Hope this helps.



akonitz@hypnos.chem.pg.gda.pl



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 15:44:56 -0500

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From:         Martin Dokupil <DOKUPIM@SCOBAB.COBLESKILL.EDU>

Subject:      INTERNSHIP



I am inquiring about availability of short term internship. I am

especially interested in the production and marketing of HERBS and

herbal products.



Please let me know by E-mail if you have internship opportunities.



Sincerely,



Martin Dokupil

Student - State University of New York, Cobleskill



*****************************************************************

e-mail   :     Dokupim@scobab.cobleskill.edu

address  :     Florence St.,Cobleskill, NY 12043, USA

tel.     :     + 518-234-0273

*****************************************************************



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:54:02 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: INTERNSHIP

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



>I am inquiring about availability of short term internship. I am

>especially interested in the production and marketing of HERBS and

>herbal products.

>

>Please let me know by E-mail if you have internship opportunities.

>

>Sincerely,

>

>Martin Dokupil

>Student - State University of New York, Cobleskill

>

>*****************************************************************

>e-mail   :     Dokupim@scobab.cobleskill.edu

>address  :     Florence St.,Cobleskill, NY 12043, USA

>tel.     :     + 518-234-0273

>*****************************************************************

>

>





11th Annual Apprenticeship Program 1995

Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc.



You Must Want To:



*Commit yourself to work hard. You can not break picking

appointments, and must reasonably plan to finish the

apprenticeship.

*Learn plant identification through keys and field

characteristics.

*Learn our wildcrafting methods, including a high regard

for the local ecosystems and the continuation of the stand.

*Find you own personal stands of medicinal and food plants.



Medicinal Herbs Covered in Depth:



Kinnikinnik     Valerian        Pyrola          Mullein



Skullcap        Oshala          Angelica        Yarrow



Ceanothus       Manzanita       Penstemon       Arnica



Pipsissewa      St. John's Wort Oregon Grape    Betony





      Apprentices will thoroughly explore many aspects of

these plants. We will  create useful herbal preparations with

them. Harvesting and processing a variety of roots, barks,

leaves, flowers, and seeds gives you a rounded view of plant

harvesting techniques. The program will cover many  more

medicinal, food, and poisonous plants that we don't harvest.

      Upon completion of the apprenticeship, you will be

able to identify, locate, harvest, process, and use a plant

you have never seen before.



Topics Covered:



Basic Botanical Terms

Plant Identification Through Keys: Practice is the only way

to master this skill.

Plant Identification Through Field Characteristics: Certain

plants are identifiable without a key by their unique

markings.

Family Identification: We will cover the major plant families

of the Northwest. This is a very useful plant identifying

skill.

Plant Pressing: This will be an optional activity.

Locating Stands of Herbs

Ecosystem Identification

Tending and Propagating Stands of Herbs

Forest Ecology

Wildcrafting: We will explore values and techniques for personal

and commercial harvesting.

Herb Quality

Cleaning and Processing Herbs: This is an essential  part

of plant harvesting. We will use all of the plants collected.

Apprentices will keep a complete selection of herbs.

Traditional Uses

Food and Spice Plants: This will include many a meal depending

on student interest.

Poisonous Plants: For safety, we will learn to identify poisonous

look-alikes of useful plants.

Herbal Preparations: We will discuss poultices, teas, tinctures,

oils, salves, facial astringents, and more. We will make many

herbal preparations in the field with fresh herbs. Apprentices

keep a complete selection.

Threatened. Endangered, Rare, and Sensitive Plants and Ecosystems



What to Expect:



One Day Picking Trips: In the spring term,  the weekly one day

trips in the Cascade Mountains will focus on identifying,

locating, and tending stands of herbs. We will harvest and

process some medicinal herbs and stop along the way to enjoy

food and spices plants also. We typically leave Sisters or Eugene

between 8 and 9 AM and return between 5 and 6 PM. Pack a good lunch.

Bad weather will not stop us from taking these trips.



Lectures: In the spring term, we will arrange weekly two hour

lectures to discuss each picking trip in detail and practice

plant identification. In the summer term, a series of six two

hour lectures on herbal preparations and medicinal uses will be

scheduled accordingly.



Overnight Trips: Similar to one day trips, but with a closer

feeling for the earth. We will go to some remote and powerful

places. There is one overnight in the spring term and four in

the summer term. Spouses and families can join us on some summer

overnights, with prior arrangements; however, they must provide

their own transportation. We generally car camp. Overnights count

as two single day trips.Cleaning and Processing: Apprentices

clean and process some of each of the plants gathered on the

picking trips. This is an important part of plant quality.



Instructor:



Howie Brounstein is the owner /operator of Columbines and

Wizardry Herbs, Inc. He has taught botany, herbalism, and

wildcrafting extensively over the past decade. He is also

active in locating rare, threatened, and endangered plant

stands.



Other Information:



Apprentice schedules will determine the times and days of

classes. The spring term  will consist of nine one day trips

and one overnight. We require a minimum of two trips

per month to continue as an apprentice. Three cancellations

without notice (no shows) are grounds for expulsion. Please

do not bring dogs on picking trips. Enrollment in the summer

term is based on the successful completion of the spring

term. It will consist of four overnight trips over a two

month period, or an overnight every two weeks. The summer

schedule will include a series of six lectures. We will award

a Certificate of Completion to those students who successfully

attend 80% of field classes and lectures of the entire program.

You will need to purchase A Manual of Northwestern Plants by

Gilkey and Dennis published by OSU Bookstores. This is sometimes

available used. We also require Medicinal Plants of the Mountain

West by Michael Moore, Museum of New Mexico Press.  Please be

sure to buy the orange book on the mountain west, not his newer

Medicinal Plants of the Pacific West.  Many pages of printed

material will be handed out, so a large 1"- 2" three ring

binder should be purchased. Plant presses are not mandatory,

but we urge you to use them for a more complete record of

the apprenticeship. Information will be available on how to

make them for almost no cost. You will need a knife or some

pruning shears, camping gear, and foul weather gear. Clothes are

particularly important. Rain pants, raincoat, a change of shoes,

and waterproof boots for walking in standing water or mud are

essential for comfort.



How to Apply:



This apprenticeship requires commitment and many hours of travel.

It is exciting and rewarding in many ways: however, it is also

hard work. It is not for everybody. Interviews will start in

October 1994. The total cost for the spring term is $535.00.

A seventy-five dollar non-refundable deposit is required to

hold your place. A seventy-five dollar discount will occur

for payment in full before the first picking trip. Financing, work

trade, and other trade options are available. If you own a

suitable vehicle, you can trade some of the cost of the

apprenticeship for its use on picking trips. Spring term will run

from April 1995 to June 1995. The summer term will cost $365.00

and will run from mid-July 1995 to the first week in September

1995. Successful completion of the spring term is a prerequisite.



For more information or to arrange an interview write

howieb@teleport.com or Columbines and Wizardry Herbs

at PO Box 50532, Eugene, OR 97759 or call (503)-465-9069.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:59:31 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: INTERNSHIP

Comments: To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list

        <HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de>



Dear Netters,



I am sorry if the last post seems an advertisement. I meant to send it

directly to Mary.

New mail software.



working in the woods now, but still quitly lurking,



Howie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:36:03 -0700

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From:         Colleen Haugen <chaugen@DIRECT.CA>

Subject:      Re: GET ME OFF THIS LIST NOW!!!!!!!!!

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>     I'VE TRIED EVERY COMMAND TO GET OFF THIS LIST.  MY FACILITY MANAGERS

>     WANT ME OFF THIS LIST NOW.  UNSUB RHONDA F. DAVIS

>



WoW, temper!, temper!.



We all got the same information when we joined the list that said how to get

off the list;

And I quote:

"You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF HERB" COMMAND TO

THE LISTSERV@VM.EGE.EDU.TR (or LISTSERV@TREARN.BITNET)." end quote.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 15:50:17 CST

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Subject:      Re[2]: GET ME OFF THIS LIST NOW!!!!!!!!!



   AND I'VE TRIED THAT AT LEAST FOUR TIMES!!  AND RECEIVED ERROR MESSAGES

   EVERYTIME STATING THAT ADDRESS IS NOT IN EXISTENCE.  ANY OTHER

   ADDRESSES I COULD POSSIBLY USE?  ANY GATEWAY PROBLEMS?  WHAT ELSE

   COULD POSSIBLY WORK??







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>     I'VE TRIED EVERY COMMAND TO GET OFF THIS LIST.  MY FACILITY MANAGERS

>     WANT ME OFF THIS LIST NOW.  UNSUB RHONDA F. DAVIS

>



WoW, temper!, temper!.



We all got the same information when we joined the list that said how to get

off the list;

And I quote:

"You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF HERB" COMMAND TO

THE LISTSERV@VM.EGE.EDU.TR (or LISTSERV@TREARN.BITNET)." end quote.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 20:51:07 +0000

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Sender:       Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@TREARN.BITNET>

From:         Elizabeth Scherbak <scherbak@STARSHIP.ATTMAIL.COM>

Subject:      Infertility



We have been trying to have a child for over 2 years.



I finally went to a fertility doctor and he found that my prolactin levels

were too high. Prolactin levels are controlled by the pituitary. The doctor

had an MRI done of my pitutary to find out if I had a pituiary tumor or my

pituitary was enlarged. Everything showed normal.



He suggested that the high levels are due to stress.



Yes, I have been under alot of stress for a couple years. I've started

some relaxation techniques but unfortunately, I've been dealing with

terminal cancer with my brother. Ironically, it would make him very

happy to have a niece or nephew and to see me become a mother.

And on a good note he actually seems to be getting better.



My progesterone levels are okay. Also my LH surge is okay - as monitored by

in-home tests. And my cycles are usually regular 28 -29 days.

My husband hasn't been tested for anything because the doctor

says with my prolactin levels so high there is no way I can get pregnant.



The doctor wants to put me on Parlodel - which is a drug that acts on the

pituitary and decreases prolactin production. However, the drug as

undesirable side effects and in higher doses has caused strokes,

heart attacks and seizures.



I'm looking for an herbal alternative. I've done database searches

of HERB and found about Vitex agnus chaste, Yams, and Red Clover.

However, I'm not sure if any of these will decrease my prolactin

levels.



Any suggestions ?



Thanks in advance,

Liz

Elizabeth Scherbak

escherbak@attmail.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Thu, 27 Apr 1995 20:28:41 -0400

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From:         Nicla Gargano <ngargano@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>

Subject:      Re: INFO REQUEST...Imiprmaine

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de

In-Reply-To:  <9504270657.AA10107@hypnos.chem.pg.gda.pl> from "Antoni Konitz"

            at Apr 27, 95 08:57:06 am



The side effects of imipramine (principally a "social anti-depressant)

is mild to heavy sedation, dry mouth, hesitation during urination,

blurred vision, light jerks...



If you need to know more let me know.

ngargano@epas.utoronto.ca









>

> >I would like to know if someone knows the secondary effects

> >of ANAPHRANIL and DEXIDRINE. Maybe those names are in french.

> >I don't have any compendium under the hand for now.

> >Thanks!

> >cotel@grics.edupac.qc.ca

>

> I found DEXEDRINE as one of the names od amfetamine sulfate.

>

> ANAFRANIL (Geigy, Germany) is one of the names of CLOMIPRAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE

> - antidepressant, chloro derivative of IMIPRAMINE. So side effects

> should be close to parent compound IMIPRAMINE. Hope this helps.

>

> akonitz@hypnos.chem.pg.gda.pl

>





--

Nicla A. Gargano

University of Toronto

Dept. of Italian Studies, Graduate Student

E-mail: ngargano@epas.utoronto.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:57:43 +0000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Infertility

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Elizabeth this is an extract from my book The Healing Garden Cipyright

Kangaroo Pree 1994

We would not have two daughters without Golden Seal

Hope thsi is hepful

Pregnant (How to become)

.i.Golden Seal; Root

If you have attemped all the tried, time honoured and tested ways of

becoming pregnant and checked out all the equipment with the doctor, you

might like to try some old American Indian Squaw herbs. These tribal women

were among the most intelligent and knowledgable herbalists around,

especially when it came to women's health problems. Modern herbalists claim

that golden seal root changes the viscosity of the vaginal mucous, making

it easier for the sperm to travel to the ova. We have had three friends try

this with success in two out of three cases so it is worth a try. Buy a

good quality fresh tincture and take as directed on the bottle.

Alternatively take a cup of golden seal Tea a day. Take for a few months

(see also aphrodisiacs). Golden seal has a (our daughters words) "truly

disgusting"  taste so you need to be keen and consistent

A valuable member of The Fragrant Garden staff had been trying to get

pregnant for some years.  After three months on the Golden Seal tincture I

had given her she became pregnant and resigned.  My wife, Jan, while

delighted at the success of the Golden Seal,was cranky that she would now

have to find a replacement. She announced in an uncharitable tone at a

dinner party, we both attended, that I had managed to get one of her best

staff members pregnant and now she would have to find someone else!  It

took some time to get people's jaws back off the ground.

Another herb that others have tried with success is .i.True Unicorn Root;.

Both golden seal and unicorn root can be purchased as a  tincture(alcoholic

extract) from a herbalist or naturopathic chemist.  They are not readilly

available and are probably best taken under supervision of a good

herbalist..



.i.Aloe Vera; (barbadensis)

James Duke quotes some interesting research on Aloe:

"Without commenting on the contradiction Rama noted fertility and

profertility reports.Alcoholic and water extracts showed 85% reduction in

fertility with experimental rats. But one compound with aloe as the main

ingredient suggested was useful in cases of infertility associated with

irregular menstrual cycles.  The same compound improved the fertility of

patients with functional sterility and improved their menstrual functions".



Obviously more work needs to be done but it seems Aloe Vera may promote

fertility where that infertility is caused by disturbed menstrual function.

Include some in your diet, if you fall into this category.



c.. Pregnant (How not to become)

The contraceptive pill was developed from sweet potato-like yams; it might

be advisable to avoid these if infertility is a problem but the research is

inconclusive.

Other foods that might adversely influence conception include soybeans,

peas and other legumes. Most legumes are rich in natural estrogens,which

might possibly act as natural contraceptives.  Peas seem to interfere with

the fertility of both men and women.

Crude .i.Cotton Seed Oil

Crude Cotton Seed Oil, which is used as a cooking oil, contains Gossypol

which is a very potent (efficacy of 99.07%) male anti-fertility agent. It

may also interfere with female fertility. Gossypol is also found in the

stem and root of the cotton plant.  Clinical tests on a male "pill" are now

well under way in China using various levels of Gossypol and studying its

side effects, which seem very few at this stage. Gerard, writing some four

hundred years ago seems to disagree however

"The seed of cottons tireth up the lust of the body by increasing natural

seed, wherefore it surpasseth."

Gerard 1636

.i.Marijuana ;(Cannabis sativa)

Researcher by Lewis and Elvin Lewis (15) suggest that Marijuana may cause

impotence and temporary sterility in men.

.i.Tumeric

In a recent study in China, extracts of the spice Tumeric, were shown to be

100% effective in preventing pregnancy in female rats (A Leung). Tumeric is

a spice commonly used in curries.

.i.Orange Blossom

At a conference recently, Gregory A'Kent the Australian Naturopath told me

that the U.N. had found that the common garden shrub Murraya paniculata

(Mexican Orange Blossom) was an effective "morning -after" pill. Apparently

a simple tea made from a sprig of this bush in hot water the morning after

intercourse can prevent pregnancy.



"The population of Tibet has remained stationary for the last 200 years and

the staple diet of the Tibetans consists of .i.barley ;and .i.peas;."

Dr. S.N. Santal 1949 quoted in Jean Carper





                              The Fragrant Garden

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do with plants and especially herbs; and who try to learn everything about

them. (Impossible!).



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:58:43 EST

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From:         Antonie Kotze <aak@RMBMAIN.RMB.CO.ZA>

Subject:      Berginia's medinical properties

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I heard that the Bergenia group of plants have medicinal properties.

Can anyone point me towards some references?



Antonie Kotze

aak@rmbmain.rmb.co.za



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:26:49 +0000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

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>I heard that the Bergenia group of plants have medicinal properties.

>Can anyone point me towards some references?

>

>Antonie Kotze

>aak@rmbmain.rmb.co.za



Can't find anything in fist six reference I've looked at. Any specific

type. What country is it native to? What family of plants?



                              The Fragrant Garden

                              25 Portsmouth Road

                                 Erina 2250

                              N.S.W, Australia



Adam Van Wirdum - usually blamed for most messages.(This is a disclaimer).

Michael Bailes  - Owner and usually author of most messages.



The Fragrant Garden is a nursery, bookshop display garden, apothecary, gift

shop, wholesaler and a collection of people who love all and everything to

do with plants and especially herbs; and who try to learn everything about

them. (Impossible!).



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:35:43 EST

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The full name of Bergenia:

BERGENIA CORDIFOLIA SAXIFRAGACEAE



Apparently (if I am not mistaken) it has its origins in northern parts of

Russia.



Antonie Kotze



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:57:53 -0500

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Subject:      internship



INTERNSHIP



I am inquiring about availability of short term internship. I am

especially interested in the production and marketing of HERBS and

herbal products.



Please let me know by E-mail if you have internship opportunities.



Sincerely,



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Student - State University of New York, Cobleskill



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Date:         Sat, 29 Apr 1995 01:24:06 -0400

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From:         George Struk <geostar@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG>

Subject:      variables

In-Reply-To:  <HERB%95042801532508@VM.EGE.EDU.TR> from "Brian M. Waters" at Apr

            27, 95 05:41:23 pm



>It is unrealistic to point to one small part





of a person's lifestyle and say it is the cause of anything.





Brian--

But those kind of studies are done all the time. For example: cancer

rates and gentetic mutation are around nuclear power plants accroding to

studies. Cancer rates are higher in flouridated water areas than in non-

accordingto studies. There are countless variables in life that you can

never eliminate in any study yet that doesn't stop drug companies from

studying individual drugs. And that's where medical "science" is

completely intellectually bankrupt. By trying to isolate one cause and

oen cure for an illness they miss the obvious fact that you can never

eliminate infinite variables.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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From:         adam <AMIS1630@URIACC.URI.EDU>

Subject:      assign #3

Comments: To: herb <herb@URIACC.URI.EDU>,

        Jim Salisbury <jsal0908@uriacc.uri.edu>,

        McAllister <dmca4742@uriacc.uri.edu>, Turo <stur7130@uriacc.uri.edu>,

        Michaud <kmic3940@uriacc.uri.edu>



conference message



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