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Date:         Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:26:48 -0400

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Subject:      Richters HerbLetter 95/09/02

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-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

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Issue ID: 95/09/02 20:15 GMT



Content

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1. Herbs Block Alcohol Absorption

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By Conrad Richter

   GOODWOOD, Sept 2 -- A series of chemicals extracted from plants have

been shown to block the uptake of alcohol into the bloodstream.  The

research results were presented at a recent meeting of the American

Chemical Society by Professor Masayuki Yoshikawa of Kyoto Pharmaceutical

University.  He reported that compounds called saponins found in several

different medicinal herbs inhibit alcohol absorption from the gastro-

intestinal tract in rats.  Animals fed a carefully measured doses of

herbs absorbed into the bloodstream only a quarter or less of the alcohol

compared to a control group of rats.

   Saponins are soap-like substances that have attracted increasing

attention from medical researchers.  Saponins are implicated in a wide

variety of biological effects including modulation of cholesterol and fat

uptake by Agave spp. used by the Masai in Africa and the adaptogenic

effects of ginseng used in the Orient.

   Among the several herbs investigated by Prof. Yoshikawa and his team

was the senega snakeroot (Polygala senega var. latifolia), a native of

North America where the native Indians used it as a diuretic, diaphoretic

(sweat inducer) and for respiratory conditions.  Yoshikawa identified

several senegasaponins and senegins that inhibit alcohol absorption.

   Similar saponins from the seeds of the common camellia (Camellia

japonica) and of horsechestnut (Aesculus hippocastrum) and from the bark

of the Japanese angelica tree (Aralia elata) were also shown have an

inhibitory effect.  These and related species are commonly used in

Chinese medicine for a variety of conditions but they were not known

particularly for their effect on alcohol absorption.



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   seeds, and dried herbs.  Order by email at catalog@richters.com.

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:19:36 +0000

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From:         NielsDamgaard <nielsd@POWERTECH.NO>

Subject:      Re: Tincture (How?)



>  Is there anyone on this list that would know how to make a tincture of

>walnut?



Yes, in Denmark is a group of people (in all 1000 !) in the Assiosation:

EDB (Ekspermenterende danske braendevinsAmasoerer =3D Eksperimenting danish

flowering alcohol Amateurs)

This Group has a dansish newsletter: "Bjesken" and have been dealing in the

buissines of flowering alcohol the last 20 years....



The recipe for using walnut:



Take 12 green walnuts to a bottle (in Denmark around 5. august). You must

be able easely to cut them with a knife. Cut them in smaal and drop them in

vodka (40-45 %)



Leave room in the glass for air (use a big glas) at shake the glass dayly

the first month. The liquid turn black (looks like dirty water). Put the

glass in a cool, dark place and forgt it for half a year. Drain the mixture

in a coffie-filter a store again the liquid for VERY long time in dark.



On happy day... when you can't resist to wait any more... (best after 5

years or more)... mix the concentrated liquid with vodka or another pure

alcohol around 35-40 %. Normaly my taste likes a mixture between 5 and 8

vodva to 1 part concentrate, but try yourself, what you like.



The final product should bee around 38% and some years productione is

better the others... just like good old vine !



EDB har a list of 300 plants good for tinkturs with names in latin,

english, German og the scandinvians languages in A5 book format and on disk

(MAC-DOS,WIN & OS/2)



Med venlig hilsen



Niels Damgaard, Oslo



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:49:46 -1000

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From:         PC Consultants <twheeler@MAUI.NET>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea questions



>how/where does one get the plants or seeds for the mint?  i have looked but

>have not found any.



I got my plant at the local garden center (a True Value)  I shouldn't have

thought mint would be tough to find. Try

Shepherd's Garden Seeds

30 Irene St

Torrington CT  06790-6627

or call

(203) 482-3638 (CT office)

(408) 335-6910 (CA office)





>Best places to grow? Sunny, Shade? Technically is it a weed and you don't

>have to worry that it will grow?



It's not TECHNICALLY a weed (true mint is MENTHA, of the family LAIATAE),

but it is relatively easy to grow.  Very invasive, however, so either have a

lot of room where you don't care what takes over, or plant it in a pot.



Mints like sun and lots of water.



Have fun, Martha



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:59:28 -1000

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From:         PC Consultants <twheeler@MAUI.NET>

Subject:      Re: gladstar



>I, too would like whoever has the info on the Gladstar Correspondence

>School to post the contact info (Email address?) to me, or, better yet,

>to the group. Thanks.





ROSEMARY GLADSTAR

BOX 420-W

EAST BARRE VT  05649



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:57:20 -1000

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Subject:      Re: Gladstar Correspondence school



>I, too would like whoever has the info on the Gladstar Correspondence

>School to post the contact info (Email address?) to me, or, better yet,

>to the group. Thanks.





Um, am I doing something wrong here?  I have posted the address about 8

times now.  When I use the REPLY function, I thought I was replying to the

group.  Am I actually replying to the individual who sent the original

message?  I'm still pretty uninformed on all of this.



Anyway, the address is:



ROSEMARY GLADSTAR

BOX 420-W

EAST BARRE VT  05649



Bye, Martha



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:06:34 -0400

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From:         Paula Heuschkel <Senequier@AOL.COM>

Subject:      vasculitis



Hello everyone.



My mother has been diagnosed with medium vessel vasculitis as well as

fibromyalgia.  She has been on prednisone, sometimes as much as 80mg a day,

for almost four years.  Now she is only on 8 mg/day. She also has

chemotherapy treatments once a month for this disease (vasculitis).  She's

tired of the chemotherapy and the side effects of prednisone.  She's gone

from being a healthy, vital woman in her early fifties to one who can barely

walk the block without help.  If you all have any suggestions, any herbs she

can ingest, drink, use as a liniment, etc.  I would welcome any help.



My mother is very discouraged with conventional medical treatments.  When I

told her about this list, she asked me to please ask all of you for help.



Thank you so much!!



Paula

Senequier@aol.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:34:05 -1000

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Subject:      Re: peppermint tea questions



>Martha

>Thanks-now I can drink my peppermint tea without worry-It grows all over my

>garden, hard to control it, glad to know I can drink it fresh.  I will look

>around for the seeds for the lemon you mentioned, sounds like a good combo.

>EM

>

Hi EM:



Hope you know you can NEVER control these mints!  Have you also tried useing

peppermints in things like tabbouleh and all sorts of other salads?  (Last

night I made a sauce w/yogurt/cilantro/onions/peppermint.  Yum!)



If you only want a little mint, maybe try digging it out NOW and replanting

some in a hanging basket do you only get just enough.  I drink the tea every

day, so I want a lot, but it is VERY invasive, so be careful.



Lemon balm (melissa officinalis) is also in the mint family, but it's not as

invasive and tastes wonderful and is good for your tummy too.



When you make tea with mints, you can put the whole stem in, you don't have

to be careful.



Bye, Martha



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:21:14 -0500

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From:         Elizabeth Trenchard <etrencha@SIRNET.MB.CA>

Subject:      stinging nettle tea



Can I stock up on stinging nettle now, to have a supply over the winter? If

so, how

would I dry it? Do I just hang it, or can I use my food dehydrator? Does

drying it

out decrease its potency in any way?



Questions, questions, questions!

Thanks in advance for the answers.





Elizabeth Trenchard

etrencha@sirnet.mb.ca



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* It is good to have an end to journey toward;         *

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*   but it is the journey that matters, in the end.    *

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:18:29 +0200

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From:         Gil Hardwick <gil@LANDMARK.IINET.NET.AU>

Subject:      "huai shan"?

Comments: To: phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



[INTERNATIONAL]



Is anybody able to identify the substance "huai shan", used in

Chinese traditional medicine?



Reference to it appears in the book _Fruit as Medicine_, by Dai

Yin-fang & Liu Cheng-jun, tr. Ron Edwards and Gong Zhi-mei. The

recipe is for a treatment for weak stomach and diarrhoea using

red dates (fruit of Zizyphus jujuba) as follows:



    Take 30 grams of red date, 30 grams of huai shan and two

    slices of fresh ginger. Add water, boil until cooked then

    mash and serve. Do this once a day for 10 days.





Please e-mail, thanks.



Gil



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Pests] are only there to attack what should be attacked because it

doesn't belong in nature. We see that nature is so organised that it

sends creatures in huge multiplicity to where something should be

got rid of.                                          Alex Podolinski



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:56:40 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: need a latin name for ceremonial sage



At 12:36 PM 8/27/95 -0500, you wrote:

>Hello,

>  I am having a lot of difficulty identifying the plant that Native

>Americans use for ceremonial purposes.  They call it sage (and yes I know

>what it looks like) but I can't find any   other names for it or it's latin

>name.  It is almost ready to harvest here in Minnesota.

>                                 Thanks in advance,

>                                        Kay

>

The common name Sage refers to a variety of unrelated plants, many of which

were used ceremonially. You've gotten 3 latin names so far, so how do you

tell now?



Sage - Salvia sp. is in the Mint Family (Labiatae) with square stems,

opposite leaves and two lipped flowers. If you have a Salvia, the leaves

will be in pairs on the stem, generally with wide leaves that are entire (no

teeth, lobes, serrations, or grooves along the edges of the leaf, just oval

shaped). This genus includes garden sage for cooking and white sage

(ceremonial) and black sage, purple sage, hummingbird sage, and innumerable

others. This plant is probably not growing wild in Minnesota.



Sagebrush (sage) - shrubby Artemisia sp.is in the Sunflower family. They

have woody stems and are bushes (shrubs) with often irregularly shaped

leaves. These plants have also been used ceremonially. The flowers are small

and yellow centered.includes silver sage.



Mugwort (Sagewort) herbaceous Artemisia sp. is related to the Sagebrush,

only it is not a woody shrub, it is an herb (botanically speaking, not a

tree or shrub). This are the plants used for dreams. The details of the

specific species of the Artemisias are complex and confusing.





Hope this helps some, many folks become confused with the common name "Sage".



Howie



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:39:20 -0400

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From:         MARIA A TURCO <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      HELLO! -Reply

Comments: To: asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU



Hello,



   I have been away from the list for a few months, so I don't know

if this has been discussed, but I was wondering if anyone has used

Evening Primrose Oil?

    I bought some, was using it, then I got headaches, but they

continued after I stopped taking the gelcaps so I don't think they

caused it, but what is is good for?  Are there any anticipated side

effects?



Incidently, does anyone have info on CoQ-10?



Thanks in advance!

    Maria

turcomar@lanmail.shu.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:45:05 -0500

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From:         ANDREW STRASFOGEL <astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV>

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply



My wife and I both have TMJ and had durable plastic "bite guards" made

to wear at night.  They cut down on the incessant teeth grinding and clenching

that (in my case) loosened teeth and led to severe gum and bite problems!

 This helps tremendously as I sent a week without it and immediately notices

jaw pain returning.  The cost is $250 - 500 but they last forever - also

called "night guard" by some.  GOod luck!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 13:26:47 -0400

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From:         Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM>

Subject:      No subject



Hi!

Where did everyone go?  I have a few qustions for anyone out there.  Can

anyone tell me how to best use my Anise Hyssop?  and I would like to know

more about Ginko, Gotu Kola and Dong quai.



Someone asked about Rosemary's classes you can write to this address for a

free brochure /class schedule:

Rosemary Gladstar

P.O. Box 420

E. Barre, VT 05649 or call (802) 479-9825.  I hope this helps.



                                                                     Barb in

N.H. :o)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 13:40:39 -0500

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From:         CATS! <curtz@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply

Comments: To: ANDREW STRASFOGEL <astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV>

In-Reply-To:  <s04c380e.028@wo0033wp.wo.blm.gov>



My daughter uses this device and it has done no good whatsoever.  I now

wished I had gotten a second opinion first.

sharon



On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, ANDREW STRASFOGEL wrote:



> My wife and I both have TMJ and had durable plastic "bite guards" made

> to wear at night.  They cut down on the incessant teeth grinding and clenching

> that (in my case) loosened teeth and led to severe gum and bite problems!

>  This helps tremendously as I sent a week without it and immediately notices

> jaw pain returning.  The cost is $250 - 500 but they last forever - also

> called "night guard" by some.  GOod luck!

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:10:55 -0400

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From:         Sam Mills <SMills1138@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: HELLO! (plus monarda)

Comments: To: asolovyo@indiana.edu



If anyone's there, here's my query: Can I drink tea made from my crimson

monardas (bee balm) for pleasure? What, if any, medicinal value does it have?

Thank you.



--sam



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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:15:44 -0400

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From:         MARIA A TURCO <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      vasculitis -Reply

Comments: To: Senequier@AOL.COM



I am not sure if this is true, but I heard that shark cartilage will

help most aches and pains that require cortisone shots - AND that it

will help with fibromyalgia.  My mother also has that but we have not

tried the shark cartilage yet - just heard about it 2 days ago.



Also, there is a new therapy for fibromy. that involves a deep and

very painful massage.



If anyone can reccomend anthing else for my mother's fibromyalgia,

please email me!



(hope this has been helpful!)

...Maria



Turcomar@lanmail.shu.edu



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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:17:13 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Lay of the nine herbs



From the Anglo-saxon Lacnunga as quoted in Ealanour Sinclair Rhode, The Old

English Herbals, pub Minerva 1922 and 1974. There is a recent paperback

edition.



The herbs are; 1. an unknown herb called atherlothe 2.Mugwort 3.Plantain

4.Watercress 5.Camomile 6.Stinging Nettle 7.Crab Apple 8.Chervil 9.Fennel.



These nine attack against creeping venoms.

A worm came creeping, he tore assunder a man.

Then took Woden nine magic twigs,

then smote the serpent that he in nine bits dispersed.

Now these nine herbs have power against nine magic outcasts,

against nine venoms and against nine flying things

and have might against the loathed things that over land rove.

Against the red venoms, against the runlan venom,

against the white venom, against the blue venom,

against the green venom, against the dusky venom,

against the brown venom, against the purple venom.

Against the worm blast, against the water blast,

against the thorn blast, against the thistle blast,

Against the ice blast. Again the venom blast.



If any venom come flying from the east, or any come from the north,

or any come from the south, or any come from the west, over mankind.

I alone know a running river and the nine serpents behold it.

All weeds must now to herbs give way.

Seas dissolve and all salt water when I this venom from thee blow.



* Worms are maybe better translated dragons. Dragons spit venoms, which

cause diseases.



     This chant reminds me of shamanic healing chants in other cultures,

with its emphasis on including everything, impressing the patient with your

all inclusive knowledge and secret knowledge.

     I would be interested in any comparisons people may come up with here.



There is also an implication that magical use of these nine herbs would

cure anything.... seems quite possible to me.



Christopher Hedley



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From:         Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: vasculitis

Comments: To: Senequier@aol.com



>>My mother has been diagnosed with medium vessel vasculitis as well as

fibromyalgia.  She has been on prednisone, sometimes as much as 80mg a day,

for almost four years.  Now she is only on 8 mg/day. She also has

chemotherapy treatments once a month for this disease (vasculitis).  She's

tired of the chemotherapy and the side effects of prednisone.  She's gone

from being a healthy, vital woman in her early fifties to one who can barely

walk the block without help.  If you all have any suggestions, any herbs she

can ingest, drink, use as a liniment, etc.  I would welcome any help.



>>My mother is very discouraged with conventional medical treatments.  When I

told her about this list, she asked me to please ask all of you for help.

@@ I also have fybromyalgia.  The only "conventional medical treatments" I

have used have been painkillers.  But that doesn't really do any good.

What I have found to help:

Magnesium - it apparently helps the nerve sheaths,

Effamol marine (available only outside of this country apparenltly)  but what

it is is Evening Primrose Oil and Fish Body Oils in a ratio of about 4:1  (4

- EPO, 1 - Fish Body Oils)

Yoga.  there are yoga tapes and yoga classes for "older" people,,, or those

not up to anything too strenuous.  This i have found to really help, as it

stretches out the muscles and gets the blood moving around again.

Massage helps a lot too.

And there is also this stuff i found in the mall one day:  It's called

"Theraputic Pain Rub"

distributed by Perfirmance Plus  1 800 537  7246

and it contains:

Active Ingredients:

Aesculus hippocastanum 6X

Arnica montana 6X

Belladonna 6X

Echinacea angustifolia 6X

Graphites 6X

Rhus tox 6X

Ruta graveolens 6X

Crotalus horridus 8X

Heloderma horridum 8X

Lachesis 8X

Naja 8X

ana



As I said,,, these things have worked for me.  They may not work for her.

 And I have no idea about medium vessel vasculitis, or whether any of the

above suggestions will not work with it.

Anyway, good luck,,, i hope this helps



Silandara



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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Gall stones



Bob,

a brief history of gall stones.



The liver produces bile. Bile consists of chloresterol, bile pigments from

broken down red blood cells and phospholipids. The gall bladdder holds on

to some of the bile against need. Bile is essential to fat digestion,

emulsyfying it... breaking the fat down into small enough globules for the

digestive enzymes to work on. If the bile is too thick or of unbalanced

constitution then gall stones may form.

Obvious causes include large transfusions of blood, various blood diseases,

the contraceptive pill and high blood choresterol. Most cases have no

obvious cause. They are commoner in women, native americans and obese

people.

Symptoms are the same as any upper abdominal problem- wind, bloating,

nausea etc. If the gall bladder is inflammed it is tender on examination.

Some people have recurrent gall bladder colic- a nasty pain coming in waves

and usually radiating to the tip of the right shoulder blade.



It is easy to investigate for gall stones, much easier than trying to get

to the bottom of why the patient has such a troubled digestion. Hence gall

stones are 'over diagnosed' and removed, often with only a temporary relief

of symptoms because underlying factors were not considered.

Good liver function is central to upper digestive health, as well as

reducing the risk of gall stones.

THE LIVER SHOULD ALWAYS BE TREATED WHEN THE PATIENT PRESENTS WITH SUCH SYMPTOMS.



Also, the stones can cause inflammation and blockage of the bilary tract,

which drains the liver, hence long standing cases can make the liver most

unhappy and a little love and attention is called for, even if the stones

are removed.



My favourite liver herbs are dandelion root and milk thistle seed. They

should be taken daily for at least 6 months. This will often clear up all

symptoms.

Sometimes a 'liver flush' is used. This involves stimulating the liver and

bile flow over a short period.

Prepare by taking lots of apple juice or by eating apples for a week or so.

Some practitioners recomend a few days eating nothing but apples.

The liver is then strongly stimulated with a variety of mixtures. I have

used half a cup of olive oil with the juice of half a grapefruit or lemon

mixed with 2 or 3 large cloves of garlic, crushed, taken first thing it the

morning and repeated for 3 or 4 days, or until something happens. This is

what Susun Weed, or anyone for that matter, would call heroic medicine and

it is not suitable for everyone. Which is why I advised doing it under

supervision. Whereas drinking those herbal teas for six months is well

tolerated, may well do the trick and is a safe 'home' procedure.



I trust this answers all your questions, and you havn't found it too much

like being taught.



Best wishes Christopher Hedley , who is, by the way, only a simple

herbalist and no MD.



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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Essiac Formula



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



Hello Herb Friends-



I have a very close friend who's father has battled cancer of the

esophagus for 2 years.  He just finished a round of chemo and radiation

and now has been told that it he has bone cancer.  They have said there

is very little they can do for him besides give him drugs to ease the

pain.



My friend heard of Essiac (I hope I've spelled that right), and they

purchased some over the weekend and his dad has been drinking the tea.

I was told the ingredients are,  Sheep Sorrel, Burdock Root, Indian

Rhubarb, and Slippery Elm.



It will cost his father over $100 a month for this tea and they are

wondering if anyone knew how to make it.  They have no idea how much of

each herb to use.  Also, they can find all the herbs locally except

Indian Rhubarb.  Does anyone know how they might obtain that?



Any additional information others might have is greatly appreciated.



Many thanks,



Kim Mayrose



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:32:43 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Article on Ginkgo Biloba (warning:Long)

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199508301645.MAA113657@tequesta.gate.net> on 8/30/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: It is also interesting that the tree, known for its longevity, is

: specifically noted to promote well-being in elderly subjects.



Not several 'elderly subjects' I know! This herb makes many people

--anxious--.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 04:32:21 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID

<Pine.OSF.3.91.950905133941.22015D-100000@Gayle-Gaston.tenet.edu> on 9/5/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: My daughter uses this device and it has done no good whatsoever.  I now

: wished I had gotten a second opinion first.

: sharon

:

: On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, ANDREW STRASFOGEL wrote:

:

: > My wife and I both have TMJ and had durable plastic "bite guards" made

: > to wear at night.  They cut down on the incessant teeth grinding

: and clenching > that (in my case) loosened teeth and led to severe

: gum and bite problems! >  This helps tremendously as I sent a week

: without it and immediately notices > jaw pain returning.  The cost

: is $250 - 500 but they last forever - also > called "night guard" by

: some.  GOod luck!



Anyone who has this kind of Liver Qi Stagnation, Liver Qi Invading the

Stomach Channel type of disharmony should strongly consider seeing an

acupuncturist. At the very least, consider if your body temperature seems

high to you--if so, if you get hot in closed rooms easily or dislike sun

exposure, etc., then eliminate all stimulants, get plenty of rest, and go to

bed early (herbal therapy can be attempted with Chih pai di huang wan,

available in Chinatown). If you have depression, sluggish, pent-up feelings,

anxiety, irritability, bloating, then embark on regular mild exercise and do

not skip or delay meals at all. Yoga and Tai ji quan are highly recommended

for either common branch of this complaint.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:18:11 -0500

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From:         Michael J PFafflin <Michael@MCS.COM>

Subject:      Herbal Ecstasy in the High Schools



Hello,

My daughter is the editor of her high school newspaper. They are going to

do an article on Herbal Ecstasy. It seems to be widely used at the schools.

I have seen threads somewhere before on the dangers of this herbal

concoction, but can't remember all the herbs. I know one is ephedrine (Ma

Huang), which I know can cause problems when abused, such as high blood

pressure, nervousness, and heart racing/palpitations.

Can anyone help with the other herbs in this formula and any other advice

on taking this product. I know the kids think the internet is "cool" and

might listen to "quotes from the internet herb mailing list"

Thanks in advance for the help.

Michael



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 02:15:55 -0400

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From:         Jim Mackey <BreederJim@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula



kim wrote:

>

>My friend heard of Essiac (I hope I've spelled that right), and they

>purchased some over the weekend and his dad has been drinking >the tea.

>I was told the ingredients are,  Sheep Sorrel, Burdock Root, Indian

>Rhubarb, and Slippery Elm.



>It will cost his father over $100 a month for this tea and they are

>wondering if anyone knew how to make it.  They have no idea how >much of

>each herb to use.  Also, they can find all the herbs locally



kim try this:

USE ONLY GLASS OR STAINLESS STEAL UTENSILS

12 liters distilled water ( 3.17 US gallons)

69 grams Burdock Root

56.7 grams Sheep sorrel powder

14.2 grams Slippery Elm bark powder

3.5 grams Rhubarb 9 my receipt calls for Turkey Rhubarb root powdered) I

think any rhubarb will do.



Boil the water;

add the herbs and continue to boil for 15 to 20 min.

let stand 12 hours

skim off the liquid leaving as much of the muck in the bottom of the pot as

is possible.

in wine makeing we call this step clearifing or racking the wine.

Bring the clear tea to the scalding point DO NOT REBOIL

Bottle in sealers

store in a cool dry place out of direct sunlight.

once open treat the tea like spoilable food keep it in the fridge.

take up to 2 oz twice per day, diluted with hot water

IF HE HAS A REACHING STOP TAKING THE TEA UNTIL THE SYMPTOMS GO AWAY.

restart at half dose. slowly increase to 4 oz per day.



I have been making this tea for 6 months now and there are several peole

using it. they all are feeling better.

Good luck



Jim Mackey

Doneright Kennel

Ont. Canada



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 08:30:45 -0400

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From:         Maureen Rogers <HERBWORLD@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: where to order herbs from



There are hundreds and hundreds of sources for ordering herbs and herbal

products Frontier, HerbPharm and  Horizon Seeds are all great sources but not

the only ones.  Anyone that wants the most complete reference book on herbal

sources email me your snail mail address and I'll send you information on

ordering the Herbal Green Pages that has over 5000 sources.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 06:37:14 -0400

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From:         Karen Mason <karen@GATE.NET>

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply



Chih pai di huang wan,

available in Chinatown).



where can I get this I am in florida. No Chinatowns around that I know of.

Some of you have mail order out there..do you supply this?



Karen Mason



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:55:18 -0400

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From:         "J. Keeler" <jkeeler@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Eyes

In-Reply-To:  <199508282218.RAA10656@jazzmin.vnet.net>



Another reason for black circles under the eyes may be a kidney situation.



Joyce in Vermont



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:20:48 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula

In-Reply-To:  <013.00840704.SCAY54A@prodigy.com>



On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, KIM MAYROSE wrote:

> It will cost his father over $100 a month for this tea and they are

> wondering if anyone knew how to make it.  They have no idea how much of

> each herb to use.  Also, they can find all the herbs locally except

> Indian Rhubarb.  Does anyone know how they might obtain that?



Whew!  Such a markup.



I buy mine at the local food coop for $12 bag dry mix, enough for a

gallon of tea, which lasts nearly a month.



The source is Troutlake Farms, in Troutlake WA (East of Vancouver WA, so

not in the 360/206 area code but in the 509 area code).  Try the old

555-1212 trick.  If I come accross the actual phone# I'll post it.

If you do, you post it.



They may not sell retail, but will probably be able to give you local

outlets.



Their included directions are for a maintenance dose, and should be

doubled for attacking an active cancer, if I've got it right.



Jack vL



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:42:26 -0500

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From:         Carolyn Anne Reid <careid@MED.CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      bolygolov or petroch



I'm forwarding this request to the list because someone might be able to

help with information on this herb. Please send replies directly to Bet

Ison:

b.ison@msuacad.morehead-st.edu



Thanks very much - - -

Carolyn



==============original request for information===============

I need information on a Russian herb "bolygolov".  In Armenian

it is called "petroch".  This is for a physcian who needs information

for a patient who is wants to use this for Ewing's sarcoma.

Does anyone know the scientific name for this herb?  I have exhausted

my meager resources on herbs (Martindales, Micromedex, Medline & other

Medlars databases and First Search databases).



Any help is appreciated,  thank you.



Bet Ison,  St. Claire Medical Center Library / Morehead, KY  40351

b.ison@msuacad.morehead-st.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:03:00 EST

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From:         "Laird, Becky L." <blh3@CIDDVD1.EM.CDC.GOV>

Subject:      Dandilion and iron content?



Good day all,

     I have a friend who is resticked in the amount of iron she can take. For

liver cleansing it has been suggested to her that dandiloin would help. She

is taking milk thistle now but she has hetatitis C and feels she needs to do

more. Soo does anyone know if dandiloin root have alot of iron in it. Also

does anyone have any other suggestions.  Thanks to all.



                                        Becky L.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:44:54 -0100

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From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      Re: stinging nettle tea

Comments: To: Elizabeth Trenchard <etrencha@SIRNet.mb.ca>



>Can I stock up on stinging nettle now, to have a supply over the winter? If

>so, how would I dry it? Do I just hang it, or can I use my food dehydrator? >Does drying it out decrease its potency in any way?



You can dry stinging nettle in two ways:

1) dry it as is, or

2) boil it for a short while (until ALL the stems are yellow).

Both are then dried in a bunch, or in a dehydrator, or whatever way you

like - version 2) has to be dried fast, so a dehydrator is OK, it's prone

to mold.



If you dry it asis at least the taste suffers, I don't know about other

potencies. I dry only when I know my freezer will be full with other

stuff; normally I just cut the preboiled stuff into very small pieces

and freeze that.

After it's dry crush it into powder and use. I put mine into stews,

mainly.



You can also dry the seeds. Get them from a stand with no creepy-crawlies,

dry any way you want to, unboiled.



HeK

--

Henriette Kress        HeK@hetta.pp.fi

          Helsinki, Finland.

    http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:04:20 -0500

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From:         Elizabeth Trenchard <etrencha@SIRNET.MB.CA>

Subject:      Re: HELLO! (plus monarda)



>If anyone's there, here's my query: Can I drink tea made from my crimson

>monardas (bee balm) for pleasure? What, if any, medicinal value does it have?

>Thank you.

>

>--sam

>



According to Rodale's Encyclopedia of Herbs, you can drink Monarda tea for

pleasure, as well as toss some of the flowers into salads for colour.



Medicinally, an infusion is recommended for coughs, sore throats, nausea,

flatulence, and menstrual cramps (is that sam for Samantha or Samuel?)



There are a few other uses noted in this book, of course with the clause

that none of this has been confirmed scientifically. I've never used it

myself, but I do have some growing. Maybe I should try it sometime. Does

it really taste good?



Bess Trenchard





etrencha@sirnet.mb.ca



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* It is good to have an end to journey toward;         *

*                                                      *

*   but it is the journey that matters, in the end.    *

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:17:53 EDT

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Essiac & Chapparal



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



To Jim Mackey-



>IF HE HAS A REACHING STOP TAKING THE TEA UNTIL THE SYMPTOMS GO >AWAY.



Thank you for the recipe.  I will pass this along.  If his Dad should

have a reaction, what type of reaction might he have?  Are there any

serious side effects reported with this tea?



>restart at half dose. slowly increase to 4 oz per day.



He's been on the tea for about 3 days now.  Does that mean he's past

the point of trouble with it?  Or might the symptoms show up later?



Thanks!



To Maria Turco-



> have you heard of Chapparal?



I have heard of Camp Chapparal in Oregon.  Are the two connected in

anyway?



> Any time there's a natural remedy, big Co's lose $ so they lobby to

pull it under >the pretense of it not being safe.



I hope we're not getting to the point of having 'garden police'.  Can

they eventually stop us from growing our own medicinal herbs??  I

shudder at the thought.



> I have an address at home that I got form this list some time ago of

a place in AZ, >I think, where you can order it from.



I would very much like that address if it wouldn't be too much trouble.



Thanks!



Kim Mayrose



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:49:21 -0300

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From:         Paul Stewart <stewart@CYCOR.CA>

Subject:      Re: Eyes

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.A32.3.91.950906095457.23902A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>



On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, J. Keeler wrote:



> Another reason for black circles under the eyes may be a kidney situation.

> Joyce in Vermont



Joyce:

        Could you please expound on this a little for all us "sunken-eyed"

souls out there?  What's the etiology?  What type of "situation"? Thanks.



Paul Stewart

Prince Edward Island

CANADA   <stewart@cycor.ca>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:35:22 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Eyes

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <Pine.A32.3.91.950906095457.23902A-100000@moose.uvm.edu> on

9/6/95, HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Another reason for black circles under the eyes may be a kidney situation.

:

: Joyce in Vermont



Although this is often said (it is a Macrobiotic belief), let's just note

that the bottom lid it the site of the beginning of the Stomach Channel in

the 'bioenergetic' theory of East-Asian Traditional Healing [the pupil is the

usual site of examining the condition of the Kidney].



The Stomach and its Channel are fundamental to good health. If your diet is

irregular, you skip and delay meals, eat fruit or fruit juice or desserts

with meals, coffee, or worry too much, you will weaken that Channels flow.

Once that occurs, the tissue along that Channel will sag. Darkness in that

sagging tissue is Blood Stagnation due to Qi Depletion.



Dampness, which can cause bags under the eyes for the very reason that the

Stomach can become soggy due to very weak Digestion (and lack of Kidney Yang

Fire in some cases), will cause large sacks under the eye, not sunken dark

circles.



Hope that helps refine the thinking some.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:35:38 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509061037.GAA21674@tequesta.gate.net> on 9/6/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Chih pai di huang wan,

: available in Chinatown).

:

: where can I get this I am in florida. No Chinatowns around that I know of.

: Some of you have mail order out there..do you supply this?

:

: Karen Mason



If indeed you are Hot, I can supply this mail order to you in concentrate

form (much better than the Chinatown stuff). If you can stomach the taste, a

bottle of powder will last a month, and costs $22 plus $3 shipping. Capsules

are more expensive, but are available. I send herbs all over the world to my

clients, so this is nothing difficult for me to do for you--



I do NOT advertise this service to my clients on the Internet, or in this

mailgroup (but you asked).



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:33:42 -0400

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From:         Jake Klamka <klamka@IO.ORG>

Subject:      Re: Herbal Ecstacy in High Schools



>My daughter is the editor of her high school newspaper. They are going to

>do an article on Herbal Ecstasy. It seems to be widely used at the schools.

>I have seen threads somewhere before on the dangers of this herbal

>concoction, but can't remember all the herbs. I know one is ephedrine (Ma

>Huang), which I know can cause problems when abused, such as high blood

>pressure, nervousness, and heart racing/palpitations.



Hi,



I have an add for this kind of Herbal Ecstacy, it came with a small

catalogue for rave (A type of music, kind of like dance) tapes. It is called

"Herbal Bliss" and these are the ingredients (as listed in the ad):



Guarana, Ma Huang, Ginger Root, White Willow, Cambogia Extract, Yucca

Extract, Ginko Biloba, Fo-Ti Extract, Hawthorne Berry Extract.



Please note that I'm NOT an expert in herbal combinations so I can't really

give you any more info either than what I have copied out of the ad. Also,

please note, I have never used this formula (or any other type of Ecstasy,

or any other "drugs" for that matter.) and I do not intend too.



Hope the info helps,



Jake Klamka

klamka@io.org



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:15:20 -0600

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From:         NAKAMURA TAMMIE K <nakamurt@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Article on Ginkgo Biloba (warning:Long)

In-Reply-To:  <4190896094.22642092@pop.com>



hello all.....



my system must have been down when this article was sent out-



I would really like to see a copy of this... would somebody mind

forwarding a cc to me?



thanks

Tammie



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:40:37 -0400

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From:         Valerie Rankow <vrankow@LI.NET>

Subject:      Re: TMJ - Reply

In-Reply-To:  <199509061037.GAA21674@tequesta.gate.net>



Hi Karen,



If you're not comfortable ordering a product from a person on our

non-commercial listserv, be assured that Chinese herbs are available in

many areas, not only "Chinatowns."  Specifically, some health food stores,

holistic health facilities, massage schools, acupuncture or oriental

medicine schools, and clinics often stock a variety of Chinese herbs.



Also, there are mail order sources for Chinese herbs, as other posters have

mentioned...



If you send me the name of the town you live in (use my e-mail, instead of

the list, if you'd like privacy), I'll see if I can find a local source.

Or you could look in your telephone book "yellow pages, (try massage

schools, holisti - , oriental - as headings" or call your local

library.



Best,

Valerie

           @>-->>--    @>-->>--    @>-->>--   @>-->>--   @>-->>--

    Valerie Rankow, Library Director                vrankow@LI.Net

    New Center For Wholistic Health Education & Research

    "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places

    where people sit in silence and that's been the main reason

    for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians." Monty Python

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



 On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Karen Mason wrote:



> Chih pai di huang wan,

> available in Chinatown).

>

> where can I get this I am in florida. No Chinatowns around that I know of.

> Some of you have mail order out there..do you supply this?

>

> Karen Mason

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:57:43 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      A good source of Chinese herbs

In-Reply-To:  <950906214920_12785454@mail06.mail.aol.com>



Someone from Florida asked recently where to get Chinese source. One place

in Florida that specializes in them is the Institute Herb Company. Their

number is 305-899-8704.



Ari



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:26:55 -0400

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Maureen Rogers <HERBWORLD@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula



Trout Lake Farm's phone number is 509-395-2025.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:18:48 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: catalog

Comments: To: Senequier@aol.com



>Michael--

>

>I love all your postings on the herb list.  I was wondering if The Fragrant

>Garden has a catalog?

Thanks for the vote of confidece Paula. There would be a catalogue if I

stoped playing on the internet.(!?)

 We are doing a quartely newsletter and are holding off on catalogues for

the moment.

The last plant catalogue was 50 pages and the next would be silly    and we

are no longer shipping plants because of the cost.

Our procduct catalogue is under revision as we have had to delete a lot of

products due to recession in Australia.

Our book catalogue is impossible to keep current so we are now doing

subject lists on various herbal and related categories.

Will send some samples in the snail mail.

Michael



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:19:17 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed



>

>how/where does one get the plants or seeds for the mint?  i have looked but

>have not found any.

Don"t grow mint from seed it is mostly very variable in flavour. Go to a

nursey and taste and smell till you find a nice one that has been

vegetativly propagated from selected stock.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:19:11 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea dry or wet?



>>WHENEVER possible, for teas it is usually best to use fresh herbs as opposed

>>to dry.  Herbs are generally dried for ease of distrubution/storage only,

>>not for any special effects it has on an herb



I have alwys promoted and believed this but was told i was wrong about

valerian root should be dried. No one has been able to give me a logical

reason for this claim yet.





Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 02:47:58 -0400

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From:         Jim Mackey <BreederJim@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Essiac & Chapparal



Kim

you wrote:

>

>  If his Dad should

>have a reaction, what type of reaction might he have?  Are there >any

>serious side effects reported with this tea?



Some people have reported stomach cramps and sometimes diarrhea. the symptoms

go away in time. It is the body getting rid of the built up toxins.



>He's been on the tea for about 3 days now.  Does that mean he's >past the

point of trouble with it?  Or might the symptoms show up >later?



I would suggest a week. if he has not had any problems by then then he will

likely be ok.



 wrote: " REACHING" for reaction. I'm not much of a speller LOL.



Please keep me updated on your Dads progress.



Jim Mackey

Doneright Kennel

Ont. Canada



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:13:26 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Tincture (How?)



>>  Is there anyone on this list that would know how to make a tincture of

>>walnut?

>

>Yes, in Denmark is a group of people (in all 1000 !) in the Assiosation:

>EDB (Ekspermenterende danske braendevinsAmasoerer =3D Eksperimenting danish

>flowering alcohol Amateurs)

>This Group has a dansish newsletter: "Bjesken" and have been dealing in the

>buissines of flowering alcohol the last 20 years....

>

>The recipe for using walnut:

>

>Take 12 green walnuts to a bottle (in Denmark around 5. august). You must

>be able easely to cut them with a knife. Cut them in smaal and drop them in

>vodka (40-45 %)

>

>Leave room in the glass for air (use a big glas) at shake the glass dayly

>the first month. The liquid turn black (looks like dirty water). Put the

>glass in a cool, dark place and forgt it for half a year. Drain the mixture

>in a coffie-filter a store again the liquid for VERY long time in dark.

>

>On happy day... when you can=B4t resist to wait any more... (best after 5

>years or more)... mix the concentrated liquid with vodka or another pure

>alcohol around 35-40 %. Normaly my taste likes a mixture between 5 and 8

>vodva to 1 part concentrate, but try yourself, what you like.

>

>The final product should bee around 38% and some years productione is

>better the others... just like good old vine !

>

>EDB har a list of 300 plants good for tinkturs with names in latin,

>english, German og the scandinvians languages in A5 book format and on disk

>(MAC-DOS,WIN & OS/2)

>

>Med venlig hilsen

>

>Niels Damgaard, Oslo



Here is somethingI have just written on homemade tinctures. I would be very

interested to get some info from EDB sounds like agroup I should belong to

MBTFG

 Medicinal "tipple"

Grandma had a lot more fun with her herbs than we do today.  Somehow herbs

have developed a "healthier than thou" morality in our generation. Some

people think herbs should only to be taken by vegetarian, new age health

nuts.  Herbs can be just as unhealthy and as abused as other food or

medicine.  In the past many herbal remedies were made into potent alcoholic

brews.  Alcohol is a good way of preserving the medicinal benefits of

plants. Many alcoholic drinks  and liqueurs were originally designed as

herbal medicines. Gin is an arthritis/gout remedy based on Juniper Berries,

a herbal kidney stimulant. Alcohol is a good "solvent" for the medicinal

properties of most herbs. While distilling your own (as grandpa did) is now

illegal (the government loses out on its taxation), infusing herbs in

alcohol is a pleasant and interesting way to preserve them. Any spiritous

alcohol can be used: gin, vodka, whisky, brandy.  If you are using nice

flavoured herbs like lemon balm you might like to use a neutral flavoured

spirit such as vodka. A good arthritis tipple can be made from the

Australian wild herb "Gotu Kola" and/or the common garden plant "Feverfew"

Pick a goodly bunch of these and steep in a bottle of brandy for a week.

Strain the herb if you wish and drink a nip occasionally, as necessary.

You can add spices, nice flavoured herbs, sugar or anything  as Mary

Poppins says to "help the medicine go down".

A nip, up to three times a day, is the usual dose for herbal tipples.

Tipples are not suitable for children. these (the toipples)  are usually

too strong, the spirits  burn them (the children)and they (the tipples) are

strongly alcoholic.  The normal precautions with all alcoholic beverages

should be observed.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:14:24 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: HELLO! (plus monarda)



>>If anyone's there, here's my query: Can I drink tea made from my crimson

>>monardas (bee balm) for pleasure? What, if any, medicinal value does it have?

>>Thank you.

>>

The red form is the nicest for tea, mixed with TEA is gives an earl grey

flavour.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:14:17 CDT

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From:         Mary and Amani Jacobs <U45301@UICVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Alternative Cancer Treatment Information

Comments: To: HOLISTIC LISTSERV <holistic@siucvmb.bitnet>,

          LONGEVITY LISTSERV <longevity@trearn.bitnet>



From time to time I post a note to these groups

to ask people if they want a copy of my post

on alternative cancer treatments.  This file is

about 4000 lines and consists of information I've

saved over the years from various Internet lists

such as HOLISTIC and HERB.  If you would like a

copy, send me *e-mail* and I will send it to you.



DO NOT post a request to the list.  Send *e-mail* to me!

Again, look at where your response is going and DO NOT

send any requests to the list.  Send *e-mail* to me

privately.  Thanks.



Mary

______________________________________________________________________

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:22:23 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed

In-Reply-To:  <199509070719.RAA20830@oznet02.ozemail.com.au>



On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Adam Van Wirdum wrote:

> Don"t grow mint from seed it is mostly very variable in flavour. Go to a

> nursey and taste and smell till you find a nice one that has been

> vegetativly propagated from selected stock.



But ... check with the nursery folk.  They may use some nasty spray you

wouldn't want to sample.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:26:45 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea dry or wet?



>I have alwys promoted and believed this but was told i was wrong about

>valerian root should be dried. No one has been able to give me a logical

>reason for this claim yet.

>

>

>Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

>Australia.



Around here there is mixed opinions on fresh vs. dried valerian. Certainly

the constituents are different after the drying process. Personally, I stick

with fresh valerian in all cases, tinctures and teas. There is a possibility

of valerian addiction in dried valerian, but the amounts one would need to

take are well beyond the sane dosages (ounces of tincture a day for months),

and so I don't discount dried valerian use. I guess it comes down to

availability and personal opinion.

Howie B

Columbines and Wizardry Herbs

Eugene, Or USA



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:30:43 -0100

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From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      Rowanberries



(I edited this - one of the nice parts of archiving a list. HeK)



This year is BIG in rowanberries over here, the first good year

in 3 or 4. So if it's a good rowanberry year where you live too

here's some tips:



You'll find rowanberries on trees called Sorbus aucuparia. They

make good-tasting jelly, or juice, or jam, if you know the

tricks. (You have to treat Aronia melanocarpa berries the same way,

and you can use rowanberry recipes for Aronia)(Aronia isn't bitter,

it has no true taste. Well not a good one anyway, without the

tricks).



By itself it's very bitter, but here's the tricks:

1) pick from the right tree. In an abundant rowanberry year

(like this one) you'll have plenty to choose from; taste a berry

from each likely-looking tree and pick your lot from the least

bitter. In a non-abundant rowanberry year you won't find anything

to pick anyway as the birds are faster than you in the forest. And

just forget about picking in the city. Even if there always are

lots of berries you don't want them.

2) freeze the things (after cleaning them of course) (cleaning

meaning getting rid of stems and bad berries and leaves) (you'll

have to clean them better for jam - no stems at all - but jelly

and juice can take a few stems. Just get those bad berries out).

24 hours freezing is enough to make them a lot less bitter.

3) add some apples to your jam / jelly / juice raw materials. They

add some more sweetness / mellowness to your end product.

4) add some cointreau, or good gin, or good whiskey to your

end product before putting the lids on. One tablespoonful per

pint jelly, jam or juice will do it.

If you leave out nr. 4 you'll never get rid of your jam; if you

don't you'll have to stand guard to get some yourself. ;)



If you don't like freezing (point 2), you can also put the things

in vinegar for 24 hours. As I don't like vinegary taste in my

jam I haven't even tried it.



And of course you can eat the things raw, but who would? Yech.

They just taste bad, they're not poisonous raw either. Remember

to pick the berries from a rowanberry tree, not from some

red elder (Sambucus racemosa) or such.



HeK

--

Henriette Kress        HeK@hetta.pp.fi

          Helsinki, Finland.

    http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:29:45 EDT

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From:         charles ferris <ferrisw@VORTEX.ITHACA.NY.US>

Organization: The Total Perspective Vortex BBS, Ithaca, NY

Subject:      source of chinese herbs



There is a Chinese herbalist that also sells chinese herbs and mixes via

snail mail.

Dr. Jin Fang

104 Pine View Terrace

Ithaca, N.Y.  14850

voice phone: 607-272-4262

fax phone : 607-272-1310

jinfang@aol.com



She knows her herbs.  She is also trained in Western medicine.

Excellent prices.



--

charles ferris - ferrisw@vortex.ithaca.ny.us

The Total Perspective Vortex BBS, Ithaca, NY



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:58:35 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: bolygolov or petroch

Comments: To: b.ison@msuacad.morehead-st.edu

In-Reply-To:  <v02130502ac736eca2be0@[140.251.2.202]>



On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Carolyn Anne Reid wrote:



> I'm forwarding this request to the list because someone might be able to

> help with information on this herb. Please send replies directly to Bet

> Ison:

> b.ison@msuacad.morehead-st.edu

>

> Thanks very much - - -

> Carolyn

>

> ==============original request for information===============

> I need information on a Russian herb "bolygolov".



Dear Bet and HERB subscribers,



"Bolygolov pjatnistyj" (lit. "spotted headacher") is Conium Maculatum,

i.e., Poison Hemlock (the famous poison that was used to execute Socrates).



Here's what an herbal encyclopedia edited by A.M. Grodzinsky has to say

about it: "It is used as an anesthetic, expectorant and hemostatic agent,

as well as in the treatment of breast cancer and uterine fibromyomas, for

the regulation of menses, constipaiton, rheumatism and gout. In

homeopathy it is used as a medicine for benign tumors."



Not bad.

I have a bunch of Russian herbals here (from all parts of the former

Soviet Union), so don't hesitate to ask me Russian-related questions!



Ari Solovyova



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:34:27 +1000

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From:         ousl@NET-VMS.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU

Subject:      VALERIAN DRIED

In-Reply-To:  <199509070719.RAA20810@oznet02.ozemail.com.au>



On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Adam Van Wirdum wrote:



> >>WHENEVER possible, for teas it is usually best to use fresh herbs as opposed

> >>to dry.  Herbs are generally dried for ease of distrubution/storage only,

> >>not for any special effects it has on an herb

>

> I have alwys promoted and believed this but was told i was wrong about

> valerian root should be dried. No one has been able to give me a logical

> reason for this claim yet.

>



        Michael, - Fresh Valerian root is narcotic - the dried root is not.



Sharon B.L.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:23:48 EDT

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



Dear Jack-



>Whew!  Such a markup.



>I buy mine at the local food coop for $12 bag dry mix, enough for a

gallon of tea, >which lasts nearly a month.



Wow!  That is sure quite a difference.  My friends live in Oregon, and

were told by people there that the Essiac tea sells for $1000 in parts

of California.   It seems to sell for the same here in Iowa as it does

in Oregon. Does anyone know if it really does cost that much in

California????  If so, YIKES!



Thanks!



Kim Mayrose

West Des Moines, Iowa  USA



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:34:51 +0200

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From:         "Sherfield, Norman" <nsherfield@MILBANK.COM>

Subject:      Article on Ginkgo Biloba (warning:Long)



     Hello.... I am new to the list and also would be interested in seeing this

     Article if someone could send it directly to me.  I have recently started

     taking Ginkgo twice daily for about a month now and the most obvious change

     has been a complete lack of desire for coffee.  I used to drink a couple of

     cups a day and a cappacino and now have no interest in drinking coffee at

     all.  I decided to try it because I had heard it was used in Europe for

     helping Alzheimer patients and because my father died at an early age from

     Alzheimer I thought I might try some preventitive things at this point.  I

     am 45 years of age at this time.  Please send the article to my email

     address and thank you in advance.



       Norman D. Sherfield

       Land that Shakes

       nsherfie@milbank.com





       !!!!!!!

       <o> <o>

          ^

         +++





       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

       +  What is originality?  To see something that  +

       +  does not yet have a name, that cannot yet    +

       +  be named, though it is there for all to see. +

       +  For most people, a thing has to have a name  +

       +  before it even becomes visible.  Original    +

       +  people have generally also been the namers.  +

       +  ___________________________________________  +

       +  Nietsche, The Gay Science                    +

        /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:23:54 EDT

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: Garden police



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



>         Dearest Kim,

>         There are those who might say that the opium poppy and

possibly

> even hemp might have medicinal uses, and I don't know about the

former,

> but I do know that growing the latter is now illegal in many

backwards

> countries, like the USA and Texas.

>         Peace!

>         David Roland Strong

>         Austin Texas

>         david306@clubhouse.email.net

***********************************************************************

************************

Dear David-



Okay okay, you got me on that one!  <VBG>  What I'm really worried

about is someone telling me I can't grow my own Echinacea for medicinal

purposes, or even Peppermint, Sage, etc., which I use for both culinary

and medicinal purposes.  Is there a real threat that this might

actually happen?  I sure hope not.



To Bess-



Thank you for sending the Essiac info on the web and the newsgroup.  I

wasn't able to get on the web yesterday (it kept telling me that I had

the wrong address), and I was very grateful that you did it for me.



To everyone that responded, a very heartfelt thanks from me to you.

My friend was very impressed with all of the information I have

received for them thus far, and asked me to extend their thanks as

well.  It never ceases to amaze me, how generous all of you are in

sharing your knowledge and resources.



My most sincere thanks,



Kim Mayrose

West Des Moines, Iowa  USA



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:16:03 -0400

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From:         Frances Kostrzebski <fkostrze@CCE.CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      Tea used to cut fat/lower blood pressure



Has anyone heard of this recipe for tea that is supposed to burn up fat

(actually losing weight) and lower blood pressure?

        1 cup honey, 1 cup apple cider vinegar, 6-7 cloves of garlic

   Put mixture thru blender and refrigerate for five days.  First thing

   in morning (before eating/drinking anything) take 2 teaspoons every

   morning.



Thank you.  Have a good day.  Fran



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:13:57 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula



>-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

>

>Hello Herb Friends-

>

>I have a very close friend who's father has battled cancer of the

>esophagus for 2 years.

 Comfrey and violet tea could help this.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:41:00 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Fragrance of 19th Century Drugstores



>I am working on a display of herbarium sheets and specimens of

>medicinal plants. I would like to have the museum smell of an

>authentic aromatic essence. Any candidates?

>

>Thank you,

>

They probably would have smelt like amixture of valerian and spices??



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:41:21 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Trigeminal Neuralgia



>I have used local remedies of creams based on Lavender and Rosemary.

>The simple way is to add 12 drops of each of the essential oils to any

>good, gentle skin cream.

>Local remedies often make all the difference in treating stubborn complaints.

>

>Christopher Hedley

try also fresh lemon balm tea.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 12:41:32 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Eyes



>        This may sound like a stupid questions, but it has me somewhat

>perplexed.  I have recently noticed black circles under my eyes, I know I

>will be immediately assaulted with responses on fatigue, stress, etc..

>and I would like to clear that up immediately.  I do yoga, am a

>vegetarian, and excercise regularly, it is not stress or fatigue.  I

>believe I am missing a nutrient of some kind.  I should be getting enough

>iron and protien with my diet, does anyone know what else this might be a

>symptom of?  Feel free to email me privately in regard to this.

>

Some call them allergy shiners.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:02:38 +0000

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From:         jonathan treasure <jtreasure@JONNO.DEMON.CO.UK>

Subject:      re herbal ecstasy



A pal of mine who has laboratory facilties in the UK  (being in the

tincture production business) has had a look at the UK version of Herbal E.

Perhaps most worrying is that the Ma Huang is contained as powdered extract

form. This is highly concentrated and he computed it at 5-600mgm per

capsule. Around here the kids are taking up to dozen caps at a time - that

constitutes a massive dose of pseudoephedrine and other alkaloids which

speeds up BOTH the heart rate and contractility -extremely bad news for

anyone with undiagnosed hypertension, arrythmias etc.  6 grams is way way

over recommended weekly dosage in the UK Schedule 3 which classifies MH as

a restricted herb. This is a silly and potentially dangerous dose -

especially since the capsules are circulated with the  cache of being

"safe" ie being herbal. But then - I seem to remember ingesting a lot

worse, along with many of my contemporaries, when I was a young foolish

etc etc teenager.....



I do not know if the UK and USA versions of herbal E are the same. True Ma

Huang ( E.sinensis) is rather more potent than some of the native US

Ephedras ( Mormon Tea etc)  so generalisations are probably not valid even

if the weights, mixtures and capsule sizes etc may be the same.



More information  would be useful - anyone?



jonathan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:25:34 -0400

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From:         Maryn Mckenna <AJCMARYN@AOL.COM>

Subject:      ma huang/tcm use

Comments: To: paracelsus@teleport.com



hallo all -



i'm writing an article on ma huang's use in American-market herbal stimulants

(from Herbal Ecstacy to Up Your Gas, etc.). one of my contacts mentioned to

me that ma huang is frequently used in TCM herb formulas, but couldn't say

what its purpose is in those formulas.



can anyone familiar with East Asian herbology throw light on this please?

private reply would be fine.  thanks.



m.a.j. mckenna

the atlanta journal-constitution



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:07:37 -0400

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From:         Valerie Rankow <vrankow@LI.NET>

Subject:      Re: essiac

In-Reply-To:  <199509071432.AA17229@personal.eunet.fi>



The URL for the Sumeria site with information on Essaic

and other alternative health topics has changed.

The new URL is:



http://lablinks.com/sumeria/health/essiac2.html





Best,

Valerie



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:08:48 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Richters HerbLetter 95/09/08 19:00 GMT

Comments: To: herb-list@richters.com



-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue ID: 95/09/08 19:00 GMT



Contents

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Some Patients Better Off Not Taking Drugs

2. Oregano Hair Detangler?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Some Patients Better Off Not Taking Drugs

------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Conrad Richter

   In two articles appearing yesterday and today in the Toronto Globe and

Mail, Wallace Immen reports that commonly used drugs can have unintended

effects that may actually exacerbate the illness being treated.

   Migraine sufferers may be impeding the brain's own ability to kill pain

when they overuse pain remedies containing codeine and ASA.  According to

Dr John Edmeads, neurologist and chief physician at the Sunnybrook Health

Science Centre in Toronto, constant use of these medications can reduce

production of the body's natural pain killers leaving patients with a

daily, grinding head pain.  As many as 40 per cent of Canadian migraine

sufferers may be suffering from medication-induced headaches from both

prescribed and over-the-counter drugs.

   Studies show that stopping the drugs can relieve the daily headache,

although stopping is not easy because of withdrawal symptoms.  Six months

after withdrawal, about 70 per cent of patients report that they are able

to cope without painkillers.  Debilitating migraine attacks can be

controlled with other forms of medication or by controlling "triggers" such

as foods, hormones, stress and sleep disorders.  Migraine sufferers are

often advised to stay away from foods that contain monosodium glutamate,

tyramine (found in chocolate, cheese and yogurt), histamine and nitrates.

   As one doctor once put it, pain killers, like ASA, don't really solve

problems, rather they poison the body's ability to sense pain.  If there

is pain there is an underlying reason for it and pain killers should not

be used to mask the problem.  Typically, herbalists and other alternative

health care givers look deeper for the source of pain and seek to alter

the body's functioning so that pain does not arise.

   Sufferers of rheumatoid arthritis also develop problems from regular

use of drugs to reduce swelling.  One-quarter of patients develop ulcers

from the use of common anti-inflammatory drugs like ASA, ibuprofen and

others.  A large international study involving nearly 9,000 arthritis

patients who took daily inflammatory drugs showed that serious upper

gastrointestinal complications such as bleeding and perforation could be

reduced 40% by administering an artificial prostaglandin.  Prostaglandin is

a natural body substance that is involved in a myriad of functions in

cells and tissues.  One of the natural prostaglandins, E-1, has a powerful

anti-inflammatory effect, and is known to regulate the immune system, lower

blood pressure, and inhibit cholestrol synthesis.  PGE-1 however is normally

produced in the body where it is needed and then quickly destroyed.

   The body's prostaglandin production can be boosted by natural means.

Evening primrose oil works by supplying the body with one of the major

precursors of prostaglandin, gamma linolenic acid.  The body is able to

utilize GLA to manufacture PGE-1 where it is needed.  A large body of

evidence exists now to suggest that evening primrose oil can treat a host

of diseases including diabetes, cancer, and premenstrual syndrome, and

it may well be useful in cases of rheumatoid arthritis.



------------------------------------------------------------------------

2. Oregano Hair Detangler?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Jackie White

   KANSAS CITY, Sept. 7, Kansas City Star -- Do you sometimes get the

urge to just trot into the kitchen and whip up, er, a little winkle lotion?

   Philip B., a Los Angeles hairstylist who markets beauty products,

contends you can mix up a batch of treatments somewhere between the fridge

and the butcher's block.  He tells you how in a new book, Blended Beauty:

Botanical Secrets for Body & Soul, published by Berkeley's Ten Speed Press,

$24.95 (U.S.).

   He uses herbs, fruits, vegetables, baking soda and eggs for such things

as Creamy Cucumber Facial Cleanser, and Rosemary Milk Tonic for feet.

   Home-brewed beauty concoctions are not new.  Almost everyone knows about

cucumbers to reduce swollen eyes, oatmeal masks and milk baths.  But

Vegetarian Refried Beans Hair Masque, with sweet potatoes and brussel

sprouts?

   He says he was inspired especially by a food tour with chefs to Italy.

He began to add food to his products and found how to "nourish the exterior

and awaken the senses."



------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 730 herb plants,

   seeds, and dried herbs.  Order by email at catalog@richters.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:15:30 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      re Eyes



on 6 Sep Paul wrote,



>: Another reason for black circles under the eyes may be a kidney situation.

>

>Although this is often said (it is a Macrobiotic belief), let's just note

>that the bottom lid it the site of the beginning of the Stomach Channel in

>the 'bioenergetic' theory of East-Asian Traditional Healing [the pupil is the

>usual site of examining the condition of the Kidney].



I have never found any relationship between dark circles under the eyes and

the condition of the kidnies, it does seem to be more a matter of life

style and diet. Bags under the eyes are more likely to be kidney related,

especially in children. * Treating ourselves on the basis of one symptom

only is not a good idea.*



I have noticed that discolouration under the eyes can be difficult to

shift, even when the person takes their lifestyle in hand, probably because

the skin is very thin here. In such cases a mild chamomile or elderflower

cream will often be found helpful.



By the way Paul, thank you for the details of Long dan Xie Gan Tang.



Christopher Hedley



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:18:25 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Valerian, fresh or dried ?



Valerian is best as a fresh plant tincture.

Such a tincture has a much higher amount of the essential oil, which makes

it more generally acceptable.



However, fresh and dried plant tinctures are two different things and may

be quite different in their effects. A little experimentaion may be called

for.



Christopher Hedley



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:41:20 -0800

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From:         "Lorraine Wilcox L.Ac." <lwilcox@WAVENET.COM>

Subject:      Re: ma huang/tcm use

Comments: To: AJCMARYN@aol.com, paracelsus@teleport.com



At  2:25 PM 9/8/95 -0400, AJCMARYN@aol.com wrote:

>i'm writing an article on ma huang's use in American-market herbal stimulants

>(from Herbal Ecstacy to Up Your Gas, etc.). one of my contacts mentioned to

>me that ma huang is frequently used in TCM herb formulas, but couldn't say

>what its purpose is in those formulas.



Ma Huang is used in common colds of the cold type, asthma and cough, and

occasionally for acute edema above the waist. In Chinese terms it is acrid,

slightly bitter and warm, goes to the Lung and Urinary Bladder and releases

the Exterior, causing a strong sweat. It descends and disperses Lung Qi and

promotes urination when edema is caused by an External factor. It is only

used in Excess conditions. It can causes excessive sweating (its root stops

sweating), and raise blood pressure. It is a potent herb, not to be used

lightly. It can cause harm when improperly used and products like Herbal

Ecstacy are irresponsible.



>can anyone familiar with East Asian herbology throw light on this please?



You can call it Chinese medicine now that Paul is gone.



*****************

*L  Wilcox L.Ac.*

*****************

*     4 9 2     *

*     3 5 7     *

*     8 1 6     *

*****************



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:10:41 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Purple loosestrife



I have been reading about this most interesting herb. It has many beneficial

properties and was used with great success during the Cholera epidemics in

England, 1848, 52-3,1864 and 1868. It was called the "soverign remedy" for

cholera. However, it has had some bad press lately. It seems to like wetlands

and has a tendency to drive out some native species.  For this reason it

has been purged in the United States. It seems a shame that its bad habits

will doom it as a useful healing herb with myriad uses and proven

efficacy in many ailments.  What do you suppose could be done to keep this

plant from becoming extinct in the US and Canada and how could we rein it

in to prevent it from destroying species in wetlands? What a dilemma.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:17:00 EDT

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From:         Rick Nott <ricknot2@OEONLINE.COM>

Subject:      Tung Shueh Pills Question?



I think this product has tiger bone or ? in it.



I am looking for information on Tung Shueh Pills from Taiwan originally made

by Ta Ang Pharmaceutical Company.



Thanking you in advance,



Rick Nott



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:52:15 -0500

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From:         Elizabeth Trenchard <etrencha@SIRNET.MB.CA>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed



Keep in mind that true peppermint (M. piperita vulgaris) is sterile, and

does not produce seeds. Quite often, different mints are sold by seed as

"peppermint". True peppermint can only be propagated by vegetative methods

(cuttings). So if you want

peppermint, buy a plant from a reputable garden center, or take a cutting

from one

that you know for sure is peppermint.



Bess Trenchard





etrencha@sirnet.mb.ca



********************************************************

* It is good to have an end to journey toward;         *

*                                                      *

*   but it is the journey that matters, in the end.    *

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:44:55 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: re herbal ecstasy

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <9509081458.aa07178@post.demon.co.uk> on 9/8/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: I do not know if the UK and USA versions of herbal E are the same. True Ma

: Huang ( E.sinensis) is rather more potent than some of the native US

: Ephedras ( Mormon Tea etc)  so generalisations are probably not valid even

: if the weights, mixtures and capsule sizes etc may be the same.

:

: More information  would be useful - anyone?



I see no reason to imagine that they would be using anything other than

Chinese ephedra in the product here in the States.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:44:06 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: re Eyes

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <v01510101ac767e4541a0@[193.37.35.129]> on 9/8/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: I have never found any relationship between dark circles under the eyes and

: the condition of the kidnies, it does seem to be more a matter of life

: style and diet. Bags under the eyes are more likely to be kidney related,

: especially in children. * Treating ourselves on the basis of one symptom

: only is not a good idea.*



The misunderstanding is that the Kidney in East-Asian traditional healing

systemes is a much larger Organ that includes the brain and spine and several

other organs. So Kidney functions as a codeword meaning something like 'basic

vitality.' This is what you are saying, and it is not out of harmony with the

traditional saying. Nonetheless, the 'frontal' system of vitality represented

by the Stomach (and related organs) is more the issue here, than the 'rear'

system of vitality represented by the Kidney (and related organs).



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:43:44 GMT

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: ma huang/tcm use

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509090056.RAA24508@wavenet.com> on 9/8/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >can anyone familiar with East Asian herbology throw light on this please?

:

: You can call it Chinese medicine now that Paul is gone.



Where did I go?



Healing isn't properly referred to as medicine. Is Taijiquan medicine? Not in

the opinion of most users of that word. In addition, China is a geographical

entity now that it wasn't then. For much of the history of this system of

healing, the south was NOT a part of China. Certainly, at the time of the

origination of the system, there was nothing like the China we know today. In

addition, I believe it is appropriate to honor Korea, Japan, and Northern

Vietnamese additions to the system.

So we can refer to it as Chinese medicine to be simple, but I don't think it

is wrong to try and adopt a system of nomenclature that allows East-Asian

traditional healing to be compared with Navajo traditional healing, or with

any other traditional healing system.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com



--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:28:41 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Purple loosestrife



Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU> writes:



> I have been reading about this most interesting herb. It has many beneficial

> properties and was used with great success during the Cholera epidemics in

> England, 1848, 52-3,1864 and 1868. It was called the "soverign remedy" for

> cholera. However, it has had some bad press lately. It seems to like wetlands

> and has a tendency to drive out some native species.  For this reason it

> has been purged in the United States. It seems a shame that its bad habits

> will doom it as a useful healing herb with myriad uses and proven

> efficacy in many ailments.  What do you suppose could be done to keep this

> plant from becoming extinct in the US and Canada and how could we rein it

> in to prevent it from destroying species in wetlands? What a dilemma.



Most people are surprised to learn that purple loosestrife has very

potent hypoglycemic and hepatoprotective properties.  Simple alcoholic

extracts were demonstrated to have these effects on laboratory animals

a few years ago.  For example, animals treated with carbon tetrachloride,

a compound very damaging to the liver recovered almost completely when

treated with purple loosestrife.  In animals treated to induce diabetes,

purple loosestrife brought blood sugar down to normal.



I agree with the above writer that we have a dilemma here.  In fact, I

would go one further and say that the plant has been unfairly maligned.

It has been in North America for over 100 years.  But it seems to be

getting out of hand only in the past few decades.  How much of its

spread is really the result of a damaged ecosystem in which the ability

of native species to compete has been impaired by pollution?



Conrad Richter



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:41:58 -0400

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From:         MaryEllen Drewes <SunnyMED@AOL.COM>

Subject:      A Little Story



A Peppermint Success Story



I have a friendship that has recently developed with a woman that works here

in The Arcade, a historical building in Downtown Cleveland.



Annie is a lady who lives alone with a few cats and a large garden, where she

grows many vegetables and herbs - especially tomatoes, hot peppers and mint.

 She started bringing me things from her garden; I think the gifts started

 because I showed an interest in her and her cats (which she gives "human

vitamins" to - "just half a tablet!") and I don't think that she has many

people that she calls "friend."  (And because she seems to feel sorry for me,

since my husband and I live in an apartment in the heart of downtown and have

no access to gardening land of our own.)



She first brought us a whole shopping-bag full of dried peppermint, from last

year's crop (and says she'll be bringing in her second cutting/drying from

this summer.)  At her encouragement, I started making tea from it, as well as

seasoning food and hanging it just for decoration in the kitchen.  We have

really enjoyed drinking the tea and the nice taste that it has added to

yoghurt sauces and salads.



Then tomato season started hot and heavy a few weeks ago.  Tomatoes arrived a

few times a week from Annie, as well as from my parents, who live out in the

'burbs.  I have had more fresh and home crafted foods this summer than I have

had for many years.  What a treat it has been!



I have tried to reciprocate her kindness with chamomile oil and bath gels,

but she could only use so much of that; if I gave her one of these each time

she brought me goodies, she could probably go into business selling them!

 So, just this week, I baked her a loaf of bread - my goodness, you would

have thought I had brought her the moon!  She had to tell me all that she had

eaten with it and how much she loved it.



It was really heartwarming to be able to share a hobby with Annie as I

suspect it was for her to share with me.  Baking bread is therapy for me, as

it is for many, so it was a joy to be able to share it with someone who

really appreciated it.  It has proven to me once again that sharing food can

truly build a tie that binds two hearts.  And an experience that I hope can

continue.



Here's to sharing,

MaryEllen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:15:07 -0400

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From:         Maureen Rogers <HERBWORLD@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: where to order herbs from



Barb,  email your snail mail (USPS) address to me and we'll get information

out on the Herbal Green Pages (the ultimate herb resource guide), our trade

journal The Herbal Connection and the upcoming conferences we're having in

Ohio and New Mexico.  Anybody else is welcome to request it as well.



Maureen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:24:24 +0200

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From:         Radek Kastan Novotny Ok 6D6C76 <novotny@DALE.UEK.CAS.CZ>

Subject:      Re: need nomail information

In-Reply-To:  <950830234105.884e@mln.lib.ma.us> from "Enid Hart Boasberg" at

              Aug 30, 95 11:41:05 pm



Hello,

        write  SET HERB NOMAIL



when you come back just write SET HERB MAIL



                                        byr Kastan





From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:06:29 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      re a little story



Thank you MaeryEllen for your story...



One note, your friend should not give human vitamins to cats. Vitamin C,

for example can be poisonous to cats- they make their own and could easily

overdose.



Perhaps you could repay her kindness by locating a source of vitamins

especially formulated for cats.



Christopher Hedley.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 10 Sep 1995 15:43:21 EDT

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From:         janet melton <JEMELT0@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

Subject:      "Virtually Wild" Ginseng



    Hello to All!  I am coordinating the AppalFor- Appalachian Forestry

project/gopher, dealing with alternative forest products such as ginseng,

mints, mushrooms, etc.  I have been presented a question which I'd like to

pass along, in hopes of receiving some outside input from anyone who would

like to help me out a bit.  The question deals with whether or not it is

sound practice to plant ginseng seeds in the wild here in Appalachia using

Canadian ginseng seeds.  The question reads as such:

"In Kentucky, seed producers use seed from Canadian stock and sell it to

Kentucky growers who sow it in the wild (under a forest canopy) and call it

'Virtually Wild' Ginseng.  Is this a good idea?  Please discuss."

Although the seeds from Canada are the same as the native Kentucky ginseng,

some folks feel this is not sound practice, that it is not a good idea to

introduce foreign seed that is adapted to a different environment, slightly

different genetic makeup, etc.  Others believe this practice is perfectly

fine.   I would like to know how interested readers feel about this issue,

and welcome all comments from those who wish to help me answer this question.

I look forward to hearing from you, and thank you for your time!

-Janet Melton

email=  jemelt0@ukcc.uky.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:31:04 GMT

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From:         Viper <viper@ONEOTA.COM>

Subject:      boneset/reliability of information on lists



NOTE: This message was originally addressed to HOLISTIC@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU

      and was forwarded to you by VIPER

                          --------------------

Hi folks! A couple months ago I posted a question here about a friend of

mine who had fractured his hip.  Someone responded saying to use the

herb "boneset".  He has been taking it every day since then.  I just

assumed it was appropriate; after all, if an herb is called boneset then

it must be for broken bones, right?  I have since learned from a

well-respected herbalist and from a book that boneset has no effect on

bones.  It is a diaphoretic--it makes you sweat; it is for fevers.  The

book said that the reason it is called boneset is because it was used to

treat what they called "breakbone fever".

    A. Never just accept the information you get on these lists!  Look

     another source or opinion.

    B. Does anyone else know either about the effects of boneset on bone

     tissue, or of another herbal aid to bone healing?

    C. Is there an indirect way that a diaphoretic such as boneset

     actually can help heal bones, maybe because it stimulates

     circulation or something?

Thanks for your help!!!

Violet



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:51:21 -0400

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From:         V Jain <vineet@HOTSEAT.ATT.COM>

Subject:      Ayurvedic Medicine



Hello,

        India has a great tradition and wide wealth of natural herbs (Ayurvedic

medicine) similar to china. However, I find that most of the products in US

and also discussion on this list is around Chinese herbs only. Can someone

throw some light on it. Whether India herbs are inferior or are they just

neglected over here in US. Just curious.

-vineet.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:55:13 -0400

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From:         J B Segelken <jbs11@CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      nettles vs stinging nettles



Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between nettles and stinging

nettles? I've been in search of stinging nettles for sinus problems and

have found nothing that includes the words "stinging." Thanks in advance!



Jane

jbs11@cornell.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:11:14 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: bolygolov or petroch



Conium Maculatum is extremely poisonous.  There are much safer herbs to

use.  I would advise against using this herb for anything.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:37:02 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Re: nettles vs stinging nettles

In-Reply-To:  <v02120001ac79aa6fcaa5@[132.236.171.37]>



On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, J B Segelken wrote:



> Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between nettles and stinging

> nettles? I've been in search of stinging nettles for sinus problems and

> have found nothing that includes the words "stinging." Thanks in advance!



Same thing.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:01:10 -0600

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From:         bruce bammes <bruce.bammes@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>

Subject:      Re: boneset/reliability of information on lists

In-Reply-To:  <9509102005088877@oneota.com>



        I do not know about any herbs that aid in healing a bone

fracture, but I know that micro currents of electricity have been shown

to increase the rate of bone growth.  Osteoporosis is also aided by these

small electrical currents.

        Bone is natually piezeoelectric (electricity caused by the

compression of a crystal) and small electrical currents are produced

within bone as a natural stimulation to bone growth.  Exercise places

stress on bones as well as muscles, and causes the little natural

currents to kind of "tone up the bones".  If these currents could somehow

be induced in a healing fracture it could speed up the ossification

process.  Many devices to do this have been invented and tried.  I do not

know at this time if any have been used successfully.  You might

investigate however.

        This treatment might even be considered natural since it is just

augmenting a natural process??





Bruce Bammes--University of Utah--USA  Disabled Rights Activist

Bruce@mustard.com   I have Wheels and a dog                     __

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:41:14 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Essiac Formula



I have a friend that has been taking  Essiac for several months for cancer

of the colon. He recently went in for a checkup and had the best one yet.

It is working but slowly. Another acquaintance in Texas gave his grandmother

who was in the terminal stages of ovarian cancer, 200-300mg of grapeseed

pycnogenol. When she went in for her chemotherapy to be readjusted they

could find No trace of the cancer and a lesion on her lung had dissappeared.

This was in a period of just a few months. She had been sent home with

90 days to live. She is now touring the US in a new motorhome. It is my

opinion that a combination of these two remedies would eliminate cancer

as a threat in 99.99% of cancer cases.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:18:32 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: boneset/reliability of information on lists



Boneset is one of my favorite herbs for flu. I can't imagine it would

hurt someone using it for bones and might help circulation. I think that

the herb to be recommended woul be "knitbone" or Comfrey. You can see that

knitbone and boneset could be confusing names. They are completely different

herbs. I have also noticed that many herbs are called be the same name

but are different plants. It is important to try to know the latin or

scientific nomenclature for a plant. It helps clarify the probper plant.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:31:37 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: re herbal ecstasy



I read recently that Mormon tea (ephedra) has little or no ephedrine making

it a totally different product than chinese ephedra ( Ma Huang).



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 21:39:01 -0100

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From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      Re: "Virtually Wild" Ginseng

Comments: To: janet melton <JEMELT0@UKCC.uky.edu>



>The question deals with whether or not it is

>sound practice to plant ginseng seeds in the wild here in Appalachia using

>Canadian ginseng seeds.



>Although the seeds from Canada are the same as the native Kentucky ginseng,

>some folks feel this is not sound practice, that it is not a good idea to

>introduce foreign seed that is adapted to a different environment, slightly

>different genetic makeup, etc.  Others believe this practice is perfectly

>fine.



My choice would be local seeds, if they are at all obtainable.

This because there just might be something in that local stock that we

don't yet know about. Like subspecies, or chemotypes, or even species,

that might get wiped out if foreign seeds were introduced.



HeK

--

Henriette Kress        HeK@hetta.pp.fi

          Helsinki, Finland.

    http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 21:38:44 -0100

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From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      Re: boneset/reliability of information on lists

Comments: To: Viper <viper@oneota.com>



>A couple months ago I posted a question here about a friend of

>mine who had fractured his hip.  Someone responded saying to use the

>herb "boneset".  He has been taking it every day since then.  I just

>assumed it was appropriate; after all, if an herb is called boneset then

>it must be for broken bones, right?  I have since learned from a

>well-respected herbalist and from a book that boneset has no effect on

>bones.  It is a diaphoretic--it makes you sweat; it is for fevers.



>    B. Does anyone else know either about the effects of boneset on bone

>      tissue, or of another herbal aid to bone healing?



From my files:



Boneset - Eupatorium perfoliatum, Eupatorium cannabinum

Purple boneset - Eupatorium purpureum

Comfrey, Boneset, Knitbone - Symphytum officinale



Meaning you have to know the latin name, as comfrey poultices have

been used for broken bones (and bruises, and cuts, and similar things)

for ages. Get qualified medical advice if you have a broken bone.

And ask your local herbalist before using these, as they might

not be appropriate for your case:



  Fresh root comfrey poultice:

Get your fresh root, peel it, beat it to pulp, add hot water to

get a thick mash. Smear on a clean piece of linen, apply. Renew

every 2 to 4 hours.



  Fresh leaf comfrey poultice:

Get your leaves, mash them up, apply. Add hot water if you wish.



  Dried root comfrey poultice:

Get your roots, peel them, split them, dry them.

They're prone to mold, even while you're drying them, so look

them over now and then. Discard moldy pieces.

After they're dry (meaning unbendable) make as small-grained

a powder as you can out of those root sticks.

In time of need, take 2-4 tablespoons of the powder, add boiling

water until you have a thick mash. Smear still warm, on a clean

piece of linen and apply. Renew every 4 hours.



(Did you notice? There's some good ways to get rid of your

aggressions in above how-tos)  ;)



  Comfrey roots, internally:

Internally the root is a laxative, a gargle, a mouthwash, a

whatever else, but not good for broken bones.

Anyone know about comfrey roots and their carcinogenity?



HeK

--

Henriette Kress        HeK@hetta.pp.fi

          Helsinki, Finland.

    http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:03:32 -0400

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From:         MaryEllen Drewes <SunnyMED@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Tea used to cut fat/lower blood pressure



Fran-



I have not heard of the tea to which you refer but it has been my experience

that eating some foods and not eating others can help. (I know that sounds

logical, but be patient and read on).  My husband and I made a switch to a

more "Eastern" diet for a while and the pounds started to melt off (about 2

lbs/week).  We drastically cut our fat intake - cooked with very little oil -

and ate at least one of these per day: daikon radish, shitake mushroom,

barley and a few others that escape me right now.  Be aware though, that it

is possible to experience some cold/flu type syptoms during the first few

weeks, due to the body's releasing some of its stored toxins.



Good luck!

MaryEllen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:20:39 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      re Stinging Nettles



on 11th September Jane wrote...



>Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between nettles and stinging

>nettles? I've been in search of stinging nettles for sinus problems and

>have found nothing that includes the words "stinging." Thanks in advance!



Its easy..

stinging nettles are the ones that sting !



Seriously, you are probably talking about the same thing but it is always

best to make sure, as the recent Boneset & Comfrey corespondance showed.

Always check with a local expert, or look the plant up in a couple of

picture books, remembering to make a note of the 'latin' botanical name as

well.

Stinging nettles are Urtica dioica or Urtica annua, they sting and have

small green flowers in little bunches.

Some people quite enjoy the sting, most people try to avoid it and a few

have a severe reaction and should stay away from it.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:49:49 -0400

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From:         Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Hops



Hi!

Does anyone have a tea recipe for Hops?  :o]

Barb in N.H.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:59:50 -0400

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From:         Cunegonde@AOL.COM

Subject:      Re: Treating fractures with herbs



Thyme does not heal all wounds.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 20:39:33 -0400

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From:         JASMINE <m_irons@ALCOR.CONCORDIA.CA>

Subject:      Re: Introduction and a question

In-Reply-To:  <950911194934_16607922@emout04.mail.aol.com>



I am very new to this list - just discovered it a few hours ago.  I used

to be a an avid herbalist, that was when I had the space and the light.  Now

I am reduced to one pot of strawberry mint and a parsley.  I am interested

though in finding out about a herb that works as an appetite suppressant.

I was told by someone to put a couple of slices of eggplant in say one

litre of water and conmsume that throughout the day.  I havent gotten

around to it mainly because I'd rather have something in a tisane than

plain water.  Any suggestions?  Jasmine



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 20:42:12 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Richters HerbLetter 95/09/12

Comments: To: herb-list@richters.com



-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

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Issue ID: 95/09/12 00:00 GMT



Content

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1. Foreigners Love Chinese Herbal Doctor, Locals Ignore Him

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By Mark O'Neill

     BAISHA VILLAGE, China, Sept 8, Reuter -- Patients from as far away as

Germany and Argentina flock to the makeshift clinic of Chinese herbal doctor

He Shixiu.  Locals shun him as a quack.

     Foreign visitors arrive at He's home in this remote village in a rugged

corner of southwestern China by taxi and on mountain bikes, equipped with fancy

cameras and travelers checks.

     Local farmers dressed in grubby blue Mao suits give He a wide berth,

preferring to frequent the three doctors of Western medicine and the 10

"barefoot doctors" in the district.

     As a result of relentless self-promotion and inclusion in popular tourist

guidebooks published abroad, He's dark and cramped three-room clinic in a

rickety wooden house has become an essential stop for foreign travellers.

     Most stay in Lijiang, a popular tourist destination four miles away in the

southwestern province of Yunnan.

     He says he owes his fame to a lifelong study of herbs, his knowledge of

English and a fascination in the West for natural medicine.

     "When I was studying in Nanjing University in the late 1940s, my health

began to deteriorate and I started to seek treatment for myself," he said in an

interview in his clinic, filled with sacks and bottles of powdered herbs.

     "My father had some knowledge of herbal medicine. Overall, I have studied

2,000 herbs and use several hundred in my treatment," he said.

     After returning to his native village in 1953, He started to treat

patients. His work was discreet because in those early, radical days of

communist rule he was designated a "class enemy," son of a rich peasant who also

ran a small business.

     In the ultra-leftist 1966-76 Cultural Revolution, He's house was ransacked

and he was forbidden to practice. He was finally rehabilitated in the late 1970s

and opened a private clinic in 1985.

     Since then, He has received 50,000 patients from 80 countries, said his son

He Shulong. who has studied traditional Chinese medicine and plans to succeed

his father.

     Among the illnesses he treats are are bronchitis, asthma, coughs, stomach

ailments, rheumatism and ulcers.

     Visitors are served herbal tea in a room scented with He's collection of

grasses and leaves.

     He lives in a district whose 10,000 residents are from China's tiny Naxi

minority and in a village that has changed little in the last 30 years, with no

running water or private telephones.

     He does not demand money from patients but asks them to donate what they

want. He declined to give his income.

     His neighbors watch with a bemusement tinged with envy at the stream of

foreigners.

     "My estimate is that he has more than $12,000 in bank accounts in the names

of his family members," whispered He Huan, 58, squatting at the front door of

his small grocery shop down the street from the clinic.

     Local people prefer to turn for help to doctors of Western or Chinese

medicine, considering their treatment more effective, said He Huan, no relative

of the herbal doctor.

     Another reason locals do not consult He is for fear of contracting AIDS

that may have been imported by the foreign patients, he said.

     He said he has seen some AIDS patients and gave them herbal remedies, but

did not know how effective these would be.

     One of the district's three doctors of Western medicine is Shao Guangming,

41, who works out of a small room, its ceiling papered with newspapers, opposite

He Huan's shop.

     He Shixiu has had no training in Western medicine and so could not be

considered a doctor in a formal sense, Shao said.

     "Local people regard the whole thing as ridiculous," Shao said, adding that

He's self-promotion was unChinese. "Foreigners think too highly of him."

     While Shao buys costly Western medicines, He uses herbs he grows himself or

picks locally, Shao said.

     That means He's costs are low but his fees from foreigners are higher than

those Shao receives from his Chinese patients, said the Western doctor, who

earns $48-60 a month.

     He says the money is not his goal. "I will go on working until I die."



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:28:06 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: bolygolov or petroch

In-Reply-To:  <01HV55P1KYEE8WW5LX@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



A great many herbs in each of my herbal reference books are described as

poisonous, and some as extremely poisonous. In particular, most of the

herbs that exhibit anti-tumor effects seem to be poisonous. A knowledgeable

doctor's supervision is recommended for all those herbs.



Should all of them be simply avoided, even when they possess unique

healing properties?



Ari



On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Anita F Hales wrote:



> Conium Maculatum is extremely poisonous.  There are much safer herbs to

> use.  I would advise against using this herb for anything.

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 08:13:22 -0400

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From:         pasull <pasull@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      Herb for bladder infections



I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone know of

an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking antibiotics

numerous times a year.



Thanks in advance!!!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:54:45 -0400

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From:         "Claudette A. Aras" <Carras@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: bolygolov or petroch



in re Ari Solovyoya's editorial question:  >>Should all of them >(poisonous

herbs) be simply avoided, even when they possess >unique healing properties?

    that's why we've always had shamans and medicine men who know how to play

with that kind of fire.  The rest of us however, as Anita cautioned, are

better staying away from the more 'powerful' herbs like Conium maculatum, and

very cautious about ALL of its potent & healing umbeliferae look-alikes.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:07:44 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: bolygolov or petroch

In-Reply-To:  <950912105442_17136195@mail06.mail.aol.com>



I agree completely. :-)

Ari



On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Claudette A. Aras wrote:



> in re Ari Solovyoya's editorial question:  >>Should all of them >(poisonous

> herbs) be simply avoided, even when they possess >unique healing properties?

>     that's why we've always had shamans and medicine men who know how to play

> with that kind of fire.  The rest of us however, as Anita cautioned, are

> better staying away from the more 'powerful' herbs like Conium maculatum, and

> very cautious about ALL of its potent & healing umbeliferae look-alikes.

>



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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:05:42 -0400

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From:         "lanmail.shu.edu (MARIA A TURCO)" <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      help- Q's



Hi everyone,



I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for pain in the joints.

Also muscular pain as well.

     I was involved in 3 car accidents in one year, I have a disc

herniation and bulge in my neck, with much pain which I am told is

muscular, but there is nothing we can do about it.

     I also hurt my knees and wrist in another accident, they say

there is only inflamation, gave me anti-inflamatory drugs, and 10

months later I still have pain.

     Someone told me shark cartilage would help those pains - a

panacea huh?  Has anyone heard of this use of shark cartilage?

     Also, I understand that one type of SC has been approved by the

fda but I don't know the trade name - what type is better?



All comments and suggestions are welcome!

    Maria



turcomar@lanmail.shu.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:30:04 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections

In-Reply-To:  <199509121213.IAA10074@zork.tiac.net>



Hi,



What I know of is:



1) Cranberry juice (MUCH better fresh than bottled) -- on empty stomach,

in small doses, as much as possible.

2) Birch leaves and buds, fresh or dried, 2tbsp. per 2 cups of boiling

water, let stand for an hour, strain, drink all of it in small doses

throughout the day.

3) Sweet Flag (Calamus) root, 1 tbsp. per cup of boiling water, boil for

15 minutes (in a steamer or double boiler), drink in small doses on empty

stomach.

4) St. John's Wort and Yarrow (Milfoil), 1 tbsp. per cup of boiling

water, let stand for an hour, strain, drink in small doses on empty stomach.

These two herbs may be poisonous if drunk in large doses; but the dose

that I mentioned is innocent; I myself used them many times in this dose.



All these things kill bacteria, reduce inflammation, and promote the flow

of urine. You may also want to consult "The Herb Book" by John Lust; it

has a long list of herbs for most common diseases. (Or any other herbal.)



Regards,

Ari





On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, pasull wrote:



> I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone know of

> an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking antibiotics

> numerous times a year.

>

> Thanks in advance!!!

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:31:17 -0400

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From:         Zhomankenh@AOL.COM

Subject:      Re: Introduction and a question



 Munch on Fennel seed, helps to suppress appatite. :o)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:25:44 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



I have had the same problem in the past butr have not had a recurrence

since doing the following: Drink sugar free cranberry juice daily, take

2-8 mg vitamin C daily -- 2 for maintenance, 8 for healing-- eat 2 slices

garlic daily -- use echinacea, goldenseal root and cayenne pepper daily

for at leat 30 days, longer if symptoms recurr. Discontinue echinaceA,

goldenseal and cayenne when symptoms disappear. Another herb that is useful

to add would be infusion of Yarrow. Drink warm in the evening, cold in the

morning.  Drunk cold Yarrow's benefits are aimed at the liver and will tone

and cleanse it. Drunk warm, it is diffusive and diaphoretic, helping to remove

toxins and inflammations.  Yarrow is one of those herbs that can be beneficial

in myriaD afflictions. If you could call any herb a "cure all", I would say

Yarrow should be on the list.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:03:27 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: boneset/reliability of information on lists



Tests were done giving rats comfrey comprising 30% of their entire diet.

Results indicated that this brought about cancer. However, othere tests

done indicated that use of comfrey (the whole plant) in more conservative

doses gave the exact opposite results.  I got this information from

A New Age Herbal.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:57:57 +0200

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From:         Mario Panzarola <svppb@KRENET.IT>

Subject:      Saw Palmetto, where in Italy ?



        Hi!

        One friend of mine needs Saw Palmetto Extract. Can anyone give me

the address

of a source, here in Italy?

        Many thanks in advance.



        Mario Panzarola

        svppb@krenet.it



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:24:33 EDT

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



> I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone

know

> of an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking

> antibiotics numerous times a year.

>

> Thanks in advance!!!



Hi-



I know that taking Echinacea and drinking cranberry juice has worked

wonders for me.  Is your friend male or female?  It may help reduce the

number of bladder infections each year to get at the cause of them.  If

it's a woman, emptying the bladder before and after intercourse (are we

allowed to say that on this list?) can help, as well as wiping front to

back.  Also, if this is a woman, have her use a hand held sprayer after

intercourse to wash germs away from the urethra.   Flush bacteria out

of the bladder by drinking enough water.  Empty bladder completely.

This may sound strange and I can only speak for women, but when you

think you have emptied your bladder, bend over and push forward over

your bladder area.  Then stand up, sit down and repeat the above

process.  I am always amazed at just how much more there was still

left.  Have him/her avoid holding a full bladder.  She/he should

urinate at least every 3 hours.



Other suggestions would be to wear cotton-crotched underwear, and not

to use bubble baths or harsh soaps.  They can irritate the urethra and

set you up for an infection.



BTW, the Echinacea will work as an antibiotic and the cranberry juice

makes the urine less acidic so it causes less burning upon urination.



Most people don't have to do all of the above to avoid bladder

infections, but if your friend is having them that frequently, he/she

might want to try all of them.  I usually only get them when pregnant,

so have not had to use ALL the above methods.



Hope this helps.



Kim Mayrose



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:26:57 +1000

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Re: boneset/reliability of information on lists



>NOTE: This message was originally addressed to HOLISTIC@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU

>      and was forwarded to you by VIPER

>                          --------------------

>Hi folks! A couple months ago I posted a question here about a friend of

>mine who had fractured his hip.  Someone responded saying to use the

>herb "boneset".



the lesson is actually always use botanic names boneset can be a few herbs.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322

     E-Mail:  adamtfg@oz:email.com.au Orders: frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:27:09 +1000

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Re: re a little story



>Thank you MaeryEllen for your story...

>

>One note, your friend should not give human vitamins to cats. Vitamin C,

>for example can be poisonous to cats- they make their own and could easily

>overdose.

>

>Perhaps you could repay her kindness by locating a source of vitamins

>especially formulated for cats.

>

>Christopher Hedley.

my vet also told me that human painkillers could be also poisionious to

cats. (they make their own and or have higher pain tollerance)

MBTFG



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:27:03 +1000

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Re: VALERIAN DRIED



>On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Adam Van Wirdum wrote:

>

>> >>WHENEVER possible, for teas it is usually best to use fresh herbs as

>>opposed

>> >>to dry.  Herbs are generally dried for ease of distrubution/storage only,

>> >>not for any special effects it has on an herb

>>

>> I have alwys promoted and believed this but was told i was wrong about

>> valerian root should be dried. No one has been able to give me a logical

>> reason for this claim yet.

>>

>

>        Michael, - Fresh Valerian root is narcotic - the dried root is not.

>

WHY?



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:32:07 -0400

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From:         mberg <allyoop@USIT.NET>

Subject:      Solutions



I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea from mild to severe.

 I have found many herbs listed as treatments for this, such as blackberry

leaf, fennel seed, ginger ,sheperd's purse, etc. Can anyone recommend one

of these or another? I would probably have to use extract drops and hide

the herb in her food. I have already eliminated all dairy from her diet and

that has not helped. I have now begun to experiment with other things in

her diet, but in the mean time we need some relief.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:49:52 +0000

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      re Bladder infections



Also Uva ursi = bearberry leaves and garden thyme and... sensitive bladders

will benifit from regular use of a soothing, demulcent herb such as Mallow

or barley water.



St John's wort is not poisonous. Large doses cause a photosensitive

reaction in cattle, ie. a nasty rash only brought out by strong sunshine.

There are reports of humans with HIV having such a reaction when given

large doses of an extract of the herb, but we are not talking concentrates

here.



Yarrow is not poisonous, in theory it could cause a photsensitive reaction,

but I have never come across this. Pregnant women should avoid large doses,

except with expert advice.



There is much misinformation about, concerning herbal toxicology and very

little hard data.



Your friend should also find out why they get recurrent bladder infections.



Christopher Hedley



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:42:14 -0500

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From:         ANDREW STRASFOGEL <astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV>

Subject:      Solutions - Reply



I am by no means an expert, but natural foods that I have used for diarrhea

include apples and chamomile tea (in moderation).   Also, chewing whole

peppercorns is effective for stomach cramping and nausea.  I assume you

have had your daughter tested to rule out any possible serious causes of

her diarrhea.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:07:00 -0800

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From:         Tania Gutierrez ESD <GUTIERREZ@EDLANE.LANE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: re a little story



I don't know about the vitamins, but aspirin will kill cats.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:50:40 -0600

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From:         Puanani DeLara <puanani@MICF.NIST.GOV>

Subject:      Re: solutions



you wrote:

I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea from mild to severe.

 I have found many herbs listed as treatments for this, such as blackberry

leaf, fennel seed, ginger ,sheperd's purse, etc. Can anyone recommend one

of these or another? I would probably have to use extract drops and hide

the herb in her food. I have already eliminated all dairy from her diet and

that has not helped. I have now begun to experiment with other things in

her diet, but in the mean time we need some relief.



One thing you might try (And you won't have to use drops) is Poi, my son

couldn't get enough of it when he was young, I started him on it around 6

months. It contains lots of vitamins and is very good for babies (have you

ever seen a skinny Hawaiian baby?...no!)

One day my son was very constipated so I following my Southern mom's advice

I gave him prune juice, since the juice was sold in those small baby food

jars I thought (new mom mistake) it would be ok if he had the whole jar, BIG

mistake, REALLY BIG mistake... Called my dad after two days of REALLY BIG

mistake and he went out and brought back Poi, the Poi had things back to

normal by night fall!!!

Poi is a Hawaiian food that is made from the Taro plant, you should be able

to find it in a shop that sells oriental type foods in the freezer section,

directions for cooking should be on package. It is also very good for big

people too although my boyfriend says to him it tastes like paste, to me it

is sweet and good on everything.

Aloha,

 Puanani



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         christopher hedley <christopher@GN.APC.ORG>

Subject:      Infant diarrhoea



Have you tried carrot juice ?



Christopher Hedley



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         ANDREW STRASFOGEL <astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV>

Subject:      Acupouncture for hearing loss



A month ago I broadcast an appeal on inner ear hearing loss and received

a response concerning the effectiveness of acupuncture, together with the

name of a practitioner in Ithaca, NY.  Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted

that response.   Could the person who repled last time re-send that message,

and could anyone else send me the names of acupuncturists or other traditional

healers who have had success in treating inner ear (low frequenc ) hearing

loss?  Preferably someone within a reasonable radius of Washington, D.C.

 Thanks!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Susan Gallant <susang@CLARK.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Solutions

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> I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea from mild to severe.

>  I have found many herbs listed as treatments for this, such as blackberry

> leaf, fennel seed, ginger ,sheperd's purse, etc.



An old remedy that my mom used for the children during flu season and

which I continue to do so with mine, is to peel and grate an apple.  Let

the grated apple sit in a dish until it turns brown, (about 10-15 min).

It's not much to look at, but the flavor is still good.  Serve it like

applesauce which most babies like. The important factor is that the grated

apple must be brown or it will not work for diarrhea.  Do not add any

sugars to it as sugars tend to cause diarrhea.  Apples are a good cheap

food to have in the home and should be eaten regularly year 'round.  Hope

this helps.



Susan



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From:         Sam Mills <SMills1138@AOL.COM>

Subject:      diarrhea II

Comments: cc: allyoop@usit.net



It's very important to get some friendly bacteria into her intestines. I see

where you've eliminated dairy but this may not have been the cause of the

diarrhea, particularly if she has been taking any antibiotics (which kill off

intestinal bacteria and set the stage for chronic diarrhea).  The easiest way

to get them into her is lots of yogurt (made with _live_ culture, not the

sugary "Yoplait" kind), and acidophilus milk instead of plain milk. If milk

really is out of the question, get a bottle of pure acidophilus culture from

the natural foods section of your nearest supermarket or from a health food

store. It comes in flavors that may be appealing to her. Get several

tablespoons into her tummy every day--mix it with food if you like, just

don't heat it or the bacteria will die. Alternatively, and if your little

girl will go for it, the same bacteria can be had from fresh miso--stir a

spoonful into soup (after removing the soup from heat); mix a spoonful into

peanut butter when you make a sandwich.  Lack of this beneficial bacteria is

most often the cause for these things--replace it and your child will bloom.



(A quick "herbal" remedy for acute diarrhea that can be life-threatening is

cinnamon tea ["Bring 2 cups water to a boil; add 1/4 teasp. (1/8 teasp for

babies) cinnamon and a dash cayenne and simmer 20 minutes. Cool, strain, sip

as needed."

(from Joy Gardner, _Healing Yourself_, p. 19.)]. But the foregoing should

take care of the long-term situation.)



--sam #%)



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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed



Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> writes:



> >Keep in mind that true peppermint (M. piperita vulgaris) is sterile, and

> >does not produce seeds. Quite often, different mints are sold by seed as

> >"peppermint". True peppermint can only be propagated by vegetative methods

> >(cuttings). So if you want

> >peppermint, buy a plant from a reputable garden center, or take a cutting

> >from one that you know for sure is peppermint.

> >

> Peppermint will grow freom seed but is variable.



I am afraid that this last statement is not correct.  What is offered for

sale as "peppermint" seed is, in fact, an inferior type of spearmint,

Mentha spicata.  The usual strain offered has a strong "menthol" flavour,

so it may resemble peppermint in odour; but the vegetative and floral

characteristics all point to M. spicata.



The first comment is correct -- true peppermint is a sterile hybrid and

unless someone goes through the trouble of crosspollinating the putative

parent species, you won't get true peppermint seed.



Conrad Richter



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-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

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Issue ID: 95/09/12 22:30 GMT



Content

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1. Tibetan Anti-Fatigue Herb to Help Chinese Divers

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    BEIJING, Sept 11 (Reuter) - In the 1996 Olympics, China's divers may no

longer suffer the effects of exhaustion caused by a tight schedule, thanks

to obscure Tibetan herbs, according to a southern Chinese newspaper seen in

Beijing on Tuesday.

     Chen Yiming, chief coach of China's national diving team, is mixing up

a fatigue-relief tonic with extracts from Tibetan herbs, Guangzhou's

Yangcheng Evening News reported.

     Chen plans to test his potion on divers in competition next May and to

begin regular use at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta, it said.

     As a diver-turned-coach, Chen has been working on his own anti-fatigue

formula for 30 years in the belief a swift recovery from physical fatigue

helps produce the best performance.

     Chen visited the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, in July and met traditional

Tibetan herbalists who introduced him to 10 herbs believed to have properties

to relieve exhaustion, including four to rebuild body strength and others to

ease mental strain.

     Chen reassured the newspaper that the herbs contained no form of

stimulant.

     A stream of Chinese athletes has tested positive for performance-

enhancing drugs in international competition in recent years, including seven

swimmers banned after the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games.



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   Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 730 herb plants,

   seeds, and dried herbs.  Order by email at catalog@richters.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------





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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Ian Lloyd <illoyd@DUNCAN.ISLAND.NET>

Subject:      Re: re a little story



>>Christopher Hedley.

>my vet also told me that human painkillers could be also poisionious to

>cats. (they make their own and or have higher pain tollerance)

>MBTFG

>

Tylenol(R) is toxic to cats, I believe. Ask your vet.

Ian Lloyd, Pharmacist

"I do it to try to end the suffering...

and I do it for the Nobodies."

Alan Grant, Batman:Shadow of the Bat #13



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Rene Burrough <100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      COMFREY ROOT TOXICITY



Comfrey is the victim of a bad press, inaccurate reports, and four true cases

of toxicity which in themselves are not straight forward, but suggest

overdosing on comfrey. Governments in the UK & Australia have restricted the

uses of comfrey root or banned the plant respectively.



The problem is two fold: firstly there are two "comfreys" and reference to

them is often casual.  Regular, common, medicinal comfrey is Symphytum

officinale.  Russian comfrey, the great compost heap maker, is Symphytum X

uplandicum. Medical herbalists in the UK, from whose written reports I am

extrapolating, point out that Russian comfrey was probably the herb used in

the toxicity trials yet regular comfrey is also restricted or banned.



Secondly,when the toxicity tests were done in the late 70s, a chemical

constituent called pyrrolizidine alkaloid was isolated, extracted from

<comfrey> leaves & injected into baby rats at what many medical herbalists

consider an "unrealistic level". In other words far more comfrey than a human

would eat to get such a toxic level of <PAs>. Also baby rats are smaller than

humans; they do not have the same metabolism as humans; and an isolated

chemical injected outside the rat's stomach wall is not the same as a human

eating leaves with many chemical constituents and digesting them normally. A

chemical in isolation will cause different reactions from a group of chemical

constituents containing that one as well.



To digress, but to explain, I hope.  Aspirin is a synthesized chemical,

acetylsalicylic acid, based on a real life plant constituent found in

meadowsweet & willow.  Aspirin can cause ulcerations of the stomach lining;

meadowsweet has a soothing, gummy constituent called mucilage which lines the

stomach, preventing erosion of the stomach wall but allowing the anti

inflammatory properties of the salicylates of the herb to be utilized.  OK?



So -- the bad guys in <comfrey>, the <PAs> were isolated & did bad things.But

that too must be qualified.



The early research, late 70s, concluded that these <PAs> do indeed cause liver

damage in humans. Medical herbalists would point out that Pyrrolizidine

alkaloids can cause obstructions of the veins in the human liver, known as

hepatic veno-occlusion, but <were not shown to cause liver cell adnormalities>

and that the level of alkaloids in comfrey was too low to <cause specific

damage to liver ciruclation>  in any case.



And finally, is comfrey carcinogenic?  The carcinogenic alkaloid has been

identified as symphytine which apparently is about 5% of the total alkaloids

in comfrey.



The original, often cited report was written by Culver et al in 1980. There

have been many criticisms since of the research itself; how the scientific

testing was conducted, which comfrey was really used, etc. What I found most

interesting was the tumors in all but three of the rats were benign -- out of

three groups of 19-28 rats and 3 groups of 15-24 rats. <And the three

malignant tumors were of low malignancy>.  There were clear cut cases of liver

damage.  That's in rats.



There are four cases involving humans which due implicate comfrey. One

involved a woman who was finally diagnosed as having veno-occlusive disease &

did consume a quart of herbal tea/per day that contained comfrey. A second

case involved a boy with Crohns disease who was treated with conventional

medicine for some time before going over to comfrey root & acupuncture. The

long running malnutrition may have weaken the liver predisposing it to the

venal obstruction problem. Comfrey root was blamed.  The drugs were not

considered as possibilities. The third case involves a woman who overdosed: 10

cups of comfrey tea a day & handsful of comfrey pills. After 9 years, she had

serious liver problems. The fourth case became a fatality.  A vegetarian,

given to specific food binges for weeks, took an unknown amount of comfrey for

flu like symptoms possibly over a period of four months. The particulars of

his case are blurred. All cases involve comfrey; in at least three, there are

suggestions of overdosage or abuse of the plant.  WHICH plant, I don't know.



There are also disagreements about the efficacy & safety of leaves vs root.

Some studies show the leaf to be almost alkaloid free -- thus safe. The UK

finally restricted the internal use of comfrey root...saying that there are

still too many unanswered questions.  Most medical herbalists I know will

politely to vigorously disagree, but the law restricts the root. At least

externally the root's OK here & the leaves can still be used as tea or

poultice.



I'm sorry this is so long, but bear with me one more paragraph, please.

I must credit Penelope Ode, MNIMH, former Editor, writing in Herbs, the

British Herb Society magazine & Margaret Whitelegg, MNIMH, whose paper for the

National Institute of Medical herbalists to the UK government in <Defence of

Comfrey> was later published in the European Journal of Herbal Medicine. Both

were published in 1993.I cannot do justice to their articles so briefly, but I

do hope I have fairly sumarized their writings. Any misstatements, confusion

of explanations here are mine.



Rene Burrough



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:39:38 EDT

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From:         Rene Burrough <100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herbs for Pets



Sam Mills mentioned a while back that you're interested in discussing herbs

for pets. I have two cats & use two herbs exclusively. They may be pretty,

pure bred burmese, but they're also tough little fighters for territory &

prey.  So there are gouges, serious wounds, pecks, claw marks, fur caught on

nails, barbed wired from fences, etc. and regular mucky, sometimes infected

eyes from pollen, fights, dust, life.



Chamomile tea - either made from dried flowers and just boiled water for a

cup's worth & cooled or

chamomile tincture - 5 drops in just boiled water inslightly more than a cup's

worth & cooled.

Chamomile can then be used as an eye wash or to clean any -  repeat - any

wound & will aid in the healing.



For slow healing wounds, I use sage tea. Known properly as purple or red sage.

Made from either the herb or the tincture the same as chamomile. Sage is

brilliant when the wound simpley won't close and hold...despite stitches in

some cases.  Same holds true  for humans.



And my cats like the taste of these two herbs. I should say will tolerate the

taste and the smell and neither herb will hurt them when they lick it off.

Chamomile is a soothing digestive & antiseptic; sage is very antiseptic and

cooling.  So it's safe doctoring all ways round.



ps: when using the dried herb in making an eyewash, for cats or humans, make

sure the tea is strained very carefully or use teabags or a teacaddy.



Rene Burrough



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



>I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone know of

>an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking antibiotics

>numerous times a year.

>

You might like to try wearing sandalwood essential oil as a perfume. it is

a urinary tract antiseptic.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

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  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."

William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 04:13:13 -0400

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From:         Enid Hart Boasberg <CONMAIL17@MLN.LIB.MA.US>

Subject:      Re: diarrhea in a toddler



To the mom with the eighteen month old daughter with diarrhea-are you giving

your child a lot of juice?  This can cause diarrhea.  Dehydration is a worry

if it is constant and severe.  What does your pediatrician say about cause?



 -Enid



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 06:21:57 GMT-5

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From:         "Daniel T. Earl" <EARLD@MEDSERV.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU>

Organization: ETSU Libraries

Subject:      Re: Solutions



The pectin in the apples that was suggested is a good means of

controlling some kinds of diarrhea. Another treatment might be rice

water (adding too much water to rice, cooking the rice and decanting

off the fluffy water, cooling it and then drinking that). Rice water

has been used for YEARS for treatment of diarrhea.







Daniel T. Earl, D.O.

Department of Family Medicine

East Tennessee State University

Johnson City Tennessee



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 14:09:38 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509121213.IAA10074@zork.tiac.net> on 9/12/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone know of

: an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking antibiotics

: numerous times a year.



Chronic bladder infections usually have some lifestyle errors driving the

pattern. While taking Cooling, Bladder-Coursing herbs like cornsilk or water

plantain, it is critical NOT to drink coffee, alcohol, other stimulant drinks

(and all drugs); to NOT skip or delay meals; to get plenty of rest; and to

hydrate intensively (drink PLENTY of water).



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 20:14:27 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: help- Q's

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <s0556a4d.012@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU> on 9/12/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Someone told me shark cartilage would help those pains - a

: panacea huh?  Has anyone heard of this use of shark cartilage?



Shark cartilage is a product that should not be supported. Sharks are an

important link in the biosystem of the sea, and too little is known about

their populations to support weakly prospective use of products that involve

their wholesale slaughter.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:30:54 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: solutions

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509132049.OAA27221@central.bldrdoc.gov> on 9/13/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Called my dad after two days of REALLY BIG

: mistake and he went out and brought back Poi, the Poi had things back to

: normal by night fall!!!



The Japanese approach is kudzu. In either case, starches like this will

normalize non-pathogenic diarrhea (especially if charred first).



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:30:25 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: diarrhea II

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <950913202439_18608303@emout04.mail.aol.com> on 9/13/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: (A quick "herbal" remedy for acute diarrhea that can be life-threatening is

: cinnamon tea ["Bring 2 cups water to a boil; add 1/4 teasp. (1/8 teasp for

: babies) cinnamon and a dash cayenne and simmer 20 minutes. Cool, strain,

sip

: as needed."



Cold forms of diarrhea, perhaps. But for dysenteric Hot types, such an herbal

combination could be disastrous.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:30:41 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <013.01191994.SCAY54A@prodigy.com> on 9/12/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Empty bladder completely.

: This may sound strange and I can only speak for women, but when you

: think you have emptied your bladder, bend over and push forward over

: your bladder area.  Then stand up, sit down and repeat the above

: process.  I am always amazed at just how much more there was still

: left



You may have a partially prolapsed bladder, or an anatomically (naturally)

tilted (retroverted) bladder. This kind of practice shouldn't be necessary

(or at least not amazing).



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:57:59 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Lagenaria vulgarius l.

Comments: To: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



15 Sep 95 ref 5091503.



Subject: Lagenaria vulgarius l.



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

etc.



Regards,

---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:34:22 -0700

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From:         April Hoskins <ahoskins@MAIL.CALYPSO.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herbs for Pets

Comments: cc: 100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM



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omega sun.



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ounce sizes and is ideal for dogs, cats, and birds, as well as horses and

other large animals.



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:59:32 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Trichosanthes kirilowii

Comments: To: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



15 Sep 95 ref 5091504.



Subject: Trichosanthes kirilowii



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

etc.



Regards,

---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:53:04 -0400

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From:         Deb Phillips <ARmidwife@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Acupouncture for hearing loss



In a message dated 95-09-13 19:38:20 EDT, astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV

(ANDREW STRASFOGEL) writes:



>A month ago I broadcast an appeal on inner ear hearing loss and received

>a response concerning the effectiveness of acupuncture,



My son has totally lost hearing in his left ear.  He has been to the

accupuncturist twice now and we see no benefits.  I am sure it will take

longer than this but how long.  Anyone have an idea?  He is also taking

chinese herbs and lots of vitamins as recommended by the naturopath.



Deb Phillips

Licensed Midwife



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:55:36 -0500

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From:         Liz Vose <liz@ERVOSE.MV.COM>

Subject:      Re: Solutions



The thing that always worsens my IBS is grease or fat of any kind.  Another

is fresh citrus.  Another is wheat and bran.  You are doing the correct

thing by checking things out one at a time. Keep up the good work.



Liz



>I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea from mild to severe.

> I have found many herbs listed as treatments for this, such as blackberry

>leaf, fennel seed, ginger ,sheperd's purse, etc. Can anyone recommend one

>of these or another? I would probably have to use extract drops and hide

>the herb in her food. I have already eliminated all dairy from her diet and

>that has not helped. I have now begun to experiment with other things in

>her diet, but in the mean time we need some relief.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:00:38 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Vfclura aurantiaca

Comments: To: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



15 Sep 95 ref 5091505.



Subject: Vfclura aurantiaca



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

etc.



Regards,

---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:41:48 -0500

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From:         deborah lynn kasarda <dkasarda@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Solutions

In-Reply-To:  <01BA810B.C9A3F9A0@bway-slip55.dynamic.usit.net>



On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, mberg wrote:



> I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea from mild to severe.

>  I have found many herbs listed as treatments for this, such as blackberry

> leaf, fennel seed, ginger ,sheperd's purse, etc. Can anyone recommend one

> of these or another? I would probably have to use extract drops and hide

> the herb in her food. I have already eliminated all dairy from her diet and

> that has not helped. I have now begun to experiment with other things in

> her diet, but in the mean time we need some relief.

>

  I'm not sure if you have talked to a doctor or pharmacist yet but if

not, an important thing to be aware of with severe diarrhea is

dehydration.  If your daughter's diarrhea is constant she is constantly

losing fluids.  Therefore it is crucial to replace these fluids and

electrolytes.  I don't know of any natural or herbal electrolyte replacers

(if there are any) but Pedialyte or a similar brand is what is generally

recommended in pharmacies.  I don't have a baby but I have heard that

mashed bananas are good for diarrhea.

Good Luck,

Deborah



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:46:52 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Trichosanthes kirilowii

Comments: To: phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk, Paul_Iannone@pop.com

Comments: cc: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



On 9/14/95 at 3:59 AM, phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk wrote:



: Subject: Trichosanthes kirilowii

:

: Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

: family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

: etc.



Common Chinese herb. Trichosanthes is a Gourd (Cucurbitae). Any Chinese

herbal will supply information.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:57:04 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Solutions



For children (I have 5 of them) I have used Slippery Elm, which is soothing

to the digestive tract and healing. It needs to be given frequently in

cases of severe diarrhea.  I would suggest every 2 hours. It can stop diarrhea

immediately.  For less severe diarrhea, i simply fed them blackberries or

blueberries. You might also geve her camomile tea to calm her system.

You should have her seen by a doctor to make sure she is not dehydrated.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:20:14 GMT

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From:         John Wilkinson <JOHN11@MDX.AC.UK>

Organization: Middlesex University

Subject:      PhD student wanted - funding available



I Have funding for a full time PhD student at stlg6,500 per year for

three years. Applicants should send their cv as an e mail (not as an

attached file) to me immediatley. Only outstanding students should

apply.

First or upper second class undergraduate degree in chemistry

with experience in organic chemistry., phytochemistry plant extraction

etc . reply ASAP.



I am still accepting applications for PhD position  in the growing,

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:03:48 +0200

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From:         Manish Ved <manish.mcomp@AXCESS.NET.IN>

Subject:      Info



--------

Hello to all of you out there. I am seeking psytochemical, pharmacotlogical,

clinical and other data pertaining to the barks of the following:

1 Ficus religiosa

2 Ficus glomerata

3 Ficus bengalensis

4 Infectoria

5 Albizia - Lebbeck.

Thanks in advance.

Shruti Ashar

c/o Manish Ved

manish.mcomp@axcess.net.in

Bombay - INDIA.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:59:50 CST

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From:         Carla Freeman <cjfreeman@MAIL.MILLIKIN.EDU>

Subject:      MIGRAIN HEADACHES



          I thought I save all the migrain headache information

          recently discussed.  Can anyone offer me some info?



          cjf



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:24:49 -0500

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From:         "R.M.K." <iss@RCI.RIPCO.COM>

Subject:      flowering THYME



Everybody was delighted this summer... about a month ago, that a huge

patch of flowering thyme <common Thymus vulgaris> appeared in my folks

lawn.  I suggested the lawn not be mowed, so the flowering thyme could

produce seed.  There was no lack of willing pollinators... the patch was

inundated with many species of bees... especially Halictid <sweat> bees.

The whole project seemed promising, except that here it is, six weeks

later, and not a single seed has been formed... only a few of the last

waning flowers remain on the tops, which are beginning to dry out.



Anybody familiar with thyme setting seed..??... does it have 'sterile'

years where seed is not produced..?.



thankx for any comments........  Rob.



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From:         Donna Hoff-Grambau <dhoffgr@EDCEN.EHHS.CMICH.EDU>

Subject:      Re: flowering THYME



I live in the country on 20 acres of land, much of it seeded with

flowering thyme, yet I have never seen the thyme set seed as it were.

It spreads through runners - not the appropriate term, but it spreads

nonetheless.  It is all over my yard and is eminently mowable.  I

do all the time.  I have oregano all over the yard as well as several

varieties of mint and mow them also with no loss of vigor - in fact

increased vigor - or plants.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:39:54 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Kalanchoe

 

I bought a Kalanchoe plant at the grocery store the other day. I understand

it is a Hawaiian plant. Is anyone familiar with this plant? Does it have

any medicinal or edible uses? Any Hawaian ethnobotanists out there?



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:26:59 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Acupouncture for hearing loss



What is the cause of the hearing loss and what damage is there to the ear?



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:24:55 EDT

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



Dear Paul-



You wrote:



> You may have a partially prolapsed bladder, or an anatomically

(naturally)

> tilted (retroverted) bladder. This kind of practice shouldn't be

necessary

> (or at least not amazing).

>

> --Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com



Nope, my bladder is just fine.  I learned this technique from our local

midwifery group.  They have taught this to many of their mom's, and

apparently it is not uncommon for a woman to void, and actually have

not completely emptied her bladder.



Kim Mayrose



Happiness is not having what you want

Happiness is wanting what you have



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Mowable Herbs



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



 > I live in the country on 20 acres of land, much of it seeded with

> flowering thyme, yet I have never seen the thyme set seed as it were.

It

> spreads through runners - not the appropriate term, but it spreads

> nonetheless.  It is all over my yard and is eminently mowable.  I do

all

> the time.  I have oregano all over the yard as well as several

varieties

> of mint and mow them also with no loss of vigor - in fact increased

vigor

> - or plants.





I found this post very interesting.  I had read ages ago about an herb

(or possibly a group of herbs) that one could grow underneath a swing

set.  It was suppose to be thick and very soft (for those nasty

landings), but easily tolerated mowing.  I don't remember if it was

Thyme, Mint, or Oregano, but it could have been.  We'd like to put

something like that around a trampoline and under the swing set.



Any other suggestions out there?



Thanks,



Kim Mayrose



Happiness is not having what you want

Happiness is wanting what you have



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:41:15 -0500

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From:         CAROL CROSBY <GRCC1@DIN.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



I know that Burpee and other companies sells clover - which I love.



Carol



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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:56:52 EDT

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From:         "Czekalski.E" <e.czekalski@MA02Q.BULL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



Hello Kim and all,



It might have been chamomile that you heard about.  I read a few days ago that

there are two kinds but the one I grew in Michigan (moved away last year) made a

fairly thick mat and smelled great when it was crushed.  I don't know how well

it holds up to traffic, though.



I'm putting stepping stones and ground cover between the raised beds that I'm

starting in Boston suburbs.  I started some wooley thyme, seedum (hens and

chicks) and chamomile between the stones.  However, I planted my tomatoes so

close that I won't be able to tell you if anything survived until after frost.

I have to squeeeeeeeeze between the beds and dance over/under branches full of

green tomatoes to pick the ripe ones.  (You can tell I'm not really complaining)



I would be interested in other suggestions for what I can try between the

stepping stones, too.



Esther

e.czekalski@bull.com



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Subject: Mowable Herbs

Author:  SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM at SMTPlink-USIS1

Date:    9/15/95 12:24 PM









I found this post very interesting.  I had read ages ago about an herb

(or possibly a group of herbs) that one could grow underneath a swing

set.  It was suppose to be thick and very soft (for those nasty

landings), but easily tolerated mowing.  I don't remember if it was

Thyme, Mint, or Oregano, but it could have been.  We'd like to put

something like that around a trampoline and under the swing set.



Any other suggestions out there?



Thanks,



Kim Mayrose



Happiness is not having what you want

Happiness is wanting what you have



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Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:57:15 -0400

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From:         Amelia Carr <acarr@ALLEG.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



  Unfortunately, bees like clover, too, so I wouldn't want to put

it under a swingset where kids would be playing.

  I'm making a slow move toward turning my lawn into a non-lawn.

I've found that pennyroyal mows well, and smells wonderful.  Thyme

doesn't seem to mind being walked on, either and would make a soft

cushion for falling on.    I've also let portions of my yard be

taken over by that weed we call "plaintain" around here, and find

that its holding up well, even (especially) in this dry summer.

  I'd love to increase my list of mowable herbs, too!



Amelia Carr

acarr@alleg.edu



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From:         Greg Holbron <HOLBRON.GREG@DEPS.PPL.COM>

Subject:      Re: COMFREY ROOT TOXICITY



Received from Rene Burrough 9/15/95.



>>Comfrey is the victim of a bad press, inaccurate reports, and four true

cases

of toxicity which in themselves are not straight forward, but suggest

overdosing on comfrey. Governments in the UK & Australia have restricted the

uses of comfrey root or banned the plant respectively.



The problem is two fold: firstly there are two "comfreys" and reference to

them is often casual.  Regular, common, medicinal comfrey is Symphytum

officinale.  Russian comfrey, the great compost heap maker, is Symphytum X

uplandicum....



Rene Burrough<<



Rene,



How can I tell which type of comfrey I have growing in my garden?  The plant

was a start from some friends who don't know it as anything but plain old

comfrey.



Thanks,

Greg Holbron

Holbron.Greg@deps.ppl.com





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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:31:18 +0000

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From:         MARTIN <LEEUWEN@ELENOV1.AUCKLAND.AC.NZ>

Organization: University of Auckland

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



Hi  I am new on this net  and do not  know what was discussed before

and do not know either if the following was mentioned before

a very hardy ground cover  became very popular in the Netherlands 15

years ago the heather they are strong  woody and  there are many

varieties with different colours. and  once a year you can cut them

back.

Martin van Leeuwen





Martin van Leeuwen

University of Auckland

School of Engineering

Junior/Senior Laboratories

Phone +64 9 3737599 ext 8496

fax +64 9 3737466/ 3737461



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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Info

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509142240.AA27631@tigger.jvnc.net> on 9/15/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Hello to all of you out there. I am seeking psytochemical,

pharmacotlogical,

: clinical and other data pertaining to the barks of the following:

: 1 Ficus religiosa

: 2 Ficus glomerata

: 3 Ficus bengalensis

: 4 Infectoria

: 5 Albizia - Lebbeck.

: Thanks in advance.

: Shruti Ashar



I think it would be vastly more  interesting if people would say WHY they

want information as well.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Acupouncture for hearing loss



In message ID <950914155304_99527592@mail04.mail.aol.com> on 9/14/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >A month ago I broadcast an appeal on inner ear hearing loss and received

: >a response concerning the effectiveness of acupuncture,

:

: My son has totally lost hearing in his left ear.  He has been to the

: accupuncturist twice now and we see no benefits.  I am sure it will take

: longer than this but how long.  Anyone have an idea?  He is also taking

: chinese herbs and lots of vitamins as recommended by the naturopath.

:

: Deb Phillips



What is the diagnosis? What are the herbs?



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:59:37 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Kalanchoe

In-Reply-To:  <01HVAPPFV9DI8WY3II@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



This is from my Ukrainian herbal encyclopedia, "Likarski Rosliny", Kiiv,

1989, ed. by A. M. Grodzinsky. The juice of Kalanchoe pinnata (or

Bryophyllum pinnatum, B. calycinum) has strong antiseptic and

antiinflammatory properties, accelerates the epitelization of necrotic

tissues, heals wounds, ulcers, burns, abscesses. It is widely used in

surgery, stomatology, gynecology ophthalmology. Very low toxicity. Before

preparing juice, keep the plant in a dark place at 4-5 degrees Celcius for

a week. In folk medicine it is also used as a treatment for nose bleeding

and varicose veins.



Another book (by I. Akopov) notes that the K. leaves contain many

flavonoids, tannins, polysaccharides, some magnesium, calcium, copper,

manganese and aluminum.



Ari Solovyova



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:41:03 -0700

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From:         April Hoskins <ahoskins@MAIL.CALYPSO.COM>

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



>I know that Burpee and other companies sells clover - which I love.

>

>Carol

Would like to have the group's opinion as to proper intake of wheatgrass and

the experiences with taking algae.

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From:         "Claudette A. Aras" <Carras@AOL.COM>

Subject:      cough syrup



Greetings.  Can anyone recommend a superwhammie cough remedy they've tried

and found efficacious?  So far I've collected yarrow, horehound, & mullien,

all of which should be great, but in what proportions?  And what other

ingredients might be added to up the potency?  Thanks in advance.  carras.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 1995 09:20:09 -0400

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From:         "Sage McKenzie." <TXSage@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Solutions



>I have an 18 month-old daughter with constant diarrhea.........



When my first child was about that age he had diarrhea. I tried scraped

apple, mashed ripe banana, burnt whiskey (my grandfather's home remedy --

burn the alcohol out of a jigger of whiskey and mix with a little sugar and

water) When I took him to the pediatrician, he asked me if I was giving him

vitamins with iron in them and I told him I was. It was the iron in the

vitamins that was causing the problem. I stopped the iron and iron rich foods

and the diarrhea stopped.



TXSage@aol.com



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Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 1995 11:30:49 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Trichosanthes kirilowii



"Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU> writes:



> Subject: Trichosanthes kirilowii

>

> Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

> family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

> etc.



Curcubitaceae (gourd family)



Used in Chinese medicine -- abortifacient, promotes menstruation,

expectorant, antitissive among other uses and properties.



Recently subject of studies as a possible anti-HIV agent.



Conrad Richter





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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: cough syrup



There's a native recipe locally called "Haida cough syrup". Folks are vague

on how its prepared but I know at leat two ingredients are Devils' Club,

(Oplopanax Horribilis) and Liquorice Fern (Polypodium Gly cy rrhiza). I

do know thatChewing on the peeld rhizomes of P. Glycyrrhiza and Polystichum

Munitum gets rid of tickling dry coughs almost immediately. I use them

on occcasion.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 16 Sep 1995 16:25:50 EDT

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From:         Rene Burrough <100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Re: COMFREY ROOT TOXICITY



Greg,

I'm kinda sorry you asked that question, cause I ain't no botanist.  However,

I have Lawrence Hills' book on Comfrey.  He is the closest UK equivalent to

the Rodales I that I know of. And I have my Mother's old copy of J I &  Robert

Rodale's Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening. So being basically bi-lingual (an

American living in the UK for many years now), I shall try to work out what

these two comfreys look like.



Russian Comfrey, Symphytum X uplandicum, is described as a <perennial fodder

crop> on both sides of the pond. In the States, it's also known as Quaker

comfrey or Prickly comfrey --  which may actually be another comfrey [S.

asperum ] & truly a fodder crop only. Comfrey has a deep, powerful root system

- so it's good for breaking down heavy clay & will happily grow on poor soil.

The Rodales do not not mention the medical comfrey, Symphytum officinale, at

all.



Lawrence Hills did extensive research into the breeding, strains, & uses of

Russian comfrey. But he only included one line drawing. That shows Russian

Comfrey as a triangular shaped bush; very heavily leafed at  ground level; too

many really...serious middle age spread!!! Then flower stems also heavy with

leaves & all narrowing into a fat point.  Sort of overweight compared to the

only photo I've got of the entire Common Comfrey plant. [Most of the herbals

concentrate on isolated flower stalks.] The Common Comfrey is narrow at the

base; you can actually SEE the thick stalks at ground level before the long

leaves & flower stems.  It's vertical growth. A very trim plant - compared to

the chunky Russian drawing .



The flowers of the Common Comfrey seem to grow out of the leaf axil [angle

between thick stem stalk & leaf stem] on a short stem.  The flowers on the

Russian comfrey may be fatter - or maybe there are more of them - and on

longer stems.



For a proper botanical description: Common Comfrey, Symphytum officinale, is

also a member of the Borage family. A perennial, 12-48"(30-120cm) tall. It has

large 12" or 30cm long leaves in a lanceolate shape. Rough to the touch,

covered with short sticky hairs. Thick stems. Upright plant. Flowers are mauve

or white, borne in cymes [broad inverted cone-shaped flower cluster in which

the central flowers open first] on forked stalks above the top leaf, each

stalk supporting short one sided racemes of pedicillate [short stalk holding

flower] bell-shaped flowers. The root is thick, quite short & very branched

from the crown. Its greyish with a white-cream core.  Habitat on moist banks,

fields borders, ditches & pond sides.



The only real difference I can see in the various herbals & gardening books

I've got -- and of course nothing was shot for comparison -- is that the

flowers grow more closely to the main stems on the Common Comfrey whereas

they're a bit more flopped out - away from the stems on the Russian Comfrey.

And if you don't have both in your garden, you may never know.



If it makes you feel any better:  the type I have is allegedly Russian comfrey

-- the flower description does match -- although it's much taller.  Russian

comfrey, according to the Lawrence Hills research folk, doesn't spread the way

common comfrey can. Well, my comfrey is very  promiscuous and couldn't care

less where it grows.



Rene Burrough



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Date:         Sun, 17 Sep 1995 14:00:08 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed



>

>> >Keep in mind that true peppermint (M. piperita vulgaris) is sterile, and

>> >does not produce seeds. Quite often, different mints are sold by seed as

>> >"peppermint". True peppermint can only be propagated by vegetative methods

>> >(cuttings). So if you want

>> >peppermint, buy a plant from a reputable garden center, or take a cutting

>> >from one that you know for sure is peppermint.

>Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> writes:

>> Peppermint will grow freom seed but is variable.

>

>I am afraid that this last statement is not correct.  What is offered for

>sale as "peppermint" seed is, in fact, an inferior type of spearmint,

>Mentha spicata.  The usual strain offered has a strong "menthol" flavour,

>so it may resemble peppermint in odour; but the vegetative and floral

>characteristics all point to M. spicata.

>The first comment is correct -- true peppermint is a sterile hybrid and

>unless someone goes through the trouble of crosspollinating the putative

>parent species, you won't get true peppermint seed.

>Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> writes:

Peppermint does grow from seed- I have done it -but the question is why

would you want too? Best flavour is obtained by selection and smelling. The

one now selected and grown commercially in some areas may now be sterile.

There are enormous differences in peppermint oil styles throughout the

world perhaps in part due to this selection of cultivars.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

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sees."

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Subject:      Chinese herbal database



Can anyone on this list help this person pls?



Chinese herbal databaseHi folks,

Today I was sifting trough some old Chinese journal articles and noticed that

in l980 a project was begun in Hong Kong of translating 1860 chinese herbs

into english and entering them onto an IBM database. It was named CCMD

Computerized Chinese Medicine Database.

Has anyone on the list any idea if this exists? and how to access it? It

sounds very exciting.

Carolyn Dean MD



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Chinese herbal database

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509170400.OAA29685@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> on 9/17/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Can anyone on this list help this person pls?

:

: Chinese herbal databaseHi folks,

: Today I was sifting trough some old Chinese journal articles and

: noticed that in l980 a project was begun in Hong Kong of translating

: 1860 chinese herbs into english and entering them onto an IBM

: database. It was named CCMD Computerized Chinese Medicine Database.

: Has anyone on the list any idea if this exists? and how to access it? It

: sounds very exciting.

: Carolyn Dean MD



There is a very large list of 'Chinese Medical' terms, including herbs,

available. I have seen (but not purchased as of yet) the printed list (it is

supposedly available as an IBM database, as you say). It runs, single-spaced,

to about twelve-hundred pages. One drawback--no Pinyin. It is characters and

English translation only.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From:         Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM>

Subject:      St.Fiacre



Hi!

I have this statue of St. Fiacre in my herb garden.  I've been told that he

is the patron st. of herb gardeners and that he was a rebel monk.  Does

anyone know where I could find out more info. on him?  He looks like Santa in

the winter.  Thank-you. :o]  Barb



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From:         List Cheryl Goers <CATHRINA@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: St.Fiacre



Barb;

       In the book Saints by author elizabeth hallom, St. Fiacre is listed as

the patron saint of Gardners, hosiers, and cab drivers. The book says Fiacre

was a mysogynistic Irish hermit who left his homeland in search of greater

solitude in France. St. Faro, Bishop of Meaux, gave him land for a hermitage

in nearby Breuil and here Fiacre created a garden; instead of using a plough

he turned the soil with his staff, and unaided he cleared the ground of trees

and weeds. His skill as a horticulturalist is the reason he is the patron

Saint of Gardeners.

      Fiacre attracted many disciples. He also established a hospice where he

sometimes miraculously cured those who were sick. His healing miracles

continued after his death. His association with french hackney carriages is

an accident; when cabs first appeared for hire in 1620, they were known as

fiacres because their stand was near the Hotel Saint-Fiacres.

      One of Fiacre's legends records that he was of royal birth, and that he

refused his ancestral crown, preferring solitude to worldly greatness.

       Fiacre was reported to have died in 670; His feast day is the 30th of

August. Fiacre is also invoked against hemorrhoids, by sufferers from veneral

disease. Fiacre's emblem is a spade.

       I hope this helps.



                                                            Cathrina@aol.com



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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Diarrhoea in small children Warning



The following extract is frm The Healing Garden by Michael Bailes Copyright

Kangaroo Press 1995

.Diarrhoea

(Children under three MUST be referred to a physician as there is danger of

dehydration)

Do not treat diarrhoea as a minor ailment in children. It is one of the top

ten killers of Australian children. The problem is dehydration. If the

diarrhoea is severe or prolonged, get medical help especially for young

children. The situation can become quite critical very quickly, within a

few hours.

For mild Diarrhoea, Slippery Elm can be used. Slippery Elm powder gives

form and bulk to the stools, "mopping up" excess fluid! It is essential

that lots of liquids are taken to avoid dehydration. Even more so if

.i.Slippery Elm; is being taken. The first symptom of dehydration is a

headache and dry lips. One of the best remedies for mild diarrhoea and

dehydration is Chicken soup.This replaces some of the salts lost with

dehydration. .i.Camomile; and .i.Mint tea; with a little .i.honey ;is

helpful. It is OK for the child not to eat, but do be careful that they

have adequate fluids. Do not give Cola soft drinks such as Pepsi and

.i.Coke;. These contain lots of caffeine, a diuretic which will worsen the

problem.

Another simple remedy is carrot soup or pureed carrots.

Rice water is also an gentle old country remedy. It is just the water left

from boiling rice. It can be sweetened with .i.honey;. It has a soothing

and anti-inflammatory effect on the stomach and intestines.

Eating .i.bananas ;is also helpful.

Check out food allergies or food intolerance (like gluten sensitivity).

Allergies often run in families and there can be hereditary factors

involved. If bowel movements are always watery-diarrhoea your body could be

trying to get rid of foods it cannot tolerate or digest.





Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 17 Sep 1995 08:53:35 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Re: peppermint tea seed



Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> writes:



> Peppermint does grow from seed- I have done it -but the question is why

> would you want too?



Are the flowers in dense spikes and leaves petioled?  Or, are the spikes

interrupted and leaves sessile or nearly so?  The "menthol" strains

of Mentha spicata that are commonly sold as "peppermint" are definitely

sessile and would yield viable seed.  They have fooled countless people

both in the horticultural industry and the consumer market.  I still see

these rogue "peppermint" plants at otherwise respectable nurseries

throughout North America.



The true peppermint strains are sterile hybrids between M. aquatica and

M. spicata.  Even if someone had the time and energy to crosspollinate the

parents the viability of the seeds would probably be quite low and

in any case selective breeding would be required to get something

resembling the type variety.



Conrad Richter



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: cranberry juice



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



> Hi Kim Mayrose,

> I saw your response containing the note aboaut cranberrey juice.

Cranberry

> juice accually makes your uring MORE acidic.  Cranberries  contanin

> phenolic acid which can not be metabolized by the body and is  passed

into

> the urine.  Thereby making it hostile to bacteria, which  don't like

acid

> conditions.

>

> ttyl

>

> --

> charles ferris - ferrisw@vortex.ithaca.ny.us

> The Total Perspective Vortex BBS, Ithaca, NY





Hello Charles!



Yes, I have read that cranberry juice will make your urine more acidic

in some resources, but in others I have read the opposite.  I have to

go by what works for me, and the cranberry juice does seem to

anesthetize the urethra (at least in my case).  It's something I can't

explain, but it works for me and several other women I know that have

tried it.  Go figure!



Take care,

Kim Mayrose



**********************************************

Happiness is not having what you want

Happiness is wanting what you have

**********************************************



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 01:10:31 EDT

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From:         KIM MAYROSE <SCAY54A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Re: Mowable Herbs



-- [ From: Kim Mayrose * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --



>   Unfortunately, bees like clover, too, so I wouldn't want to put it

under

> a swingset where kids would be playing.

>   I'm making a slow move toward turning my lawn into a non-lawn. I've

> found that pennyroyal mows well, and smells wonderful.  Thyme doesn't

seem

> to mind being walked on, either and would make a soft cushion for

falling

> on.    I've also let portions of my yard be taken over by that weed

we

> call "plaintain" around here, and find that its holding up well, even

> (especially) in this dry summer.

>   I'd love to increase my list of mowable herbs, too!

>

> Amelia Carr

> acarr@alleg.edu





Good thinking about the bees!!  I hadn't thought of that and am

grateful that you did. How many mowable herbs are there out there that

I could use under the swing set and around the trampoline that bees

would stay away from?  Or might there be some kind of herbs I could use

as a natural bee repellent that I could grow in conjunction with clover

and other herbs?



Thanks!



Kim Mayrose



**********************************************

Happiness is not having what you want

Happiness is wanting what you have

**********************************************



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 08:02:48 EDT

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From:         BOB SCOTT <URWD77A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Herbs in walkway



I'd like to use herbs as a pathway between our gardens(HERB GARDENS

of course). What  would be a sweet smelling hardy herb? I gather

Thyme might suffice, but which thyme? Carawy Thyme is very pleasent

but would it handle the everyday traffic?



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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 13:08:18 -0400

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From:         Sam Mills <SMills1138@AOL.COM>



t Endangered Species Act



This may be of some interest to list members.

--sam

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From:   spencer@QNET.COM (Spencer Phillips)

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To:     BIOSPH-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (Multiple recipients of list BIOSPH-L)

Date: 95-09-17 22:29:24 EDT



September 15, 1995



Dear medical professionals and health care advocates,



We are in the midst of a great national debate over whether to continue

the commitment of the Endangered Species Act to protect the world's plants

and animals.  What is often lost in this debate is the fact that species

conservation is important to human health.  For example, more than

one-third of the prescribed drugs in the United States are derived from

plants and other natural products.  Yet, only five percent of plant

species have been studied with any thoroughness to assess their medicinal

value.



My work as a pediatrician has given me first hand experience with the

wonders of nature's pharmacy.  I have witnessed children diagnosed with

fatal diseases grow healthy thanks to medicines that have been derived

from the wild.  Three years ago, one of my patients, a young girl named

Jackie Buckley was diagnosed with leukemia.  Jackie is now six years old

and is in remission thanks in part to Vincristine, a drug that was

originally derived from the rosy periwinkle plant in Madagascar.



My experience has led me to become involved in an effort to help defend

the Endangered Species Act.  The ESA is the best tool we have to protect

species of imperiled plants and animals The Act is also a model for

international conservation efforts.



Unfortunately, the Endangered Species Act is now itself in danger.  Some

members of Congress would weaken the Act in a way that would eliminate

many of the most important protections for species that could provide

tomorrow's most important medicines.



Please join with me in an effort to communicate to the Congress and the

American public the importance of protecting species to human health and

the value of a strong Endangered Species Act.  Please indicate your

willingness to sign your name and/or the name of your medical practice or

medical association on to the enclosed letter to Congress.



Additionally, please note whether you are interested in speaking on the

importance of the medicinal value of plants and at one of several press

events scheduled throughout the country this fall.  Your participation is

greatly appreciated.



Sincerely,



Kevin Browngoehl, M.D.

Drexel Hill Pediatric Associates

Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania



-----------------------------------------------------------------------



Petition from medical professionals and health advocacy organizations to

Congress



We are writing to urge you to support a strong Endangered Species Act.

What is often lost in the debate over species conservation is the value of

species to human health.  For example, more than one-third of the

prescribed drugs in the United States are derived from plants and other

natural products.  The medicines of tomorrow are being discovered today

from nature, both abroad and here in our own country.



The Endangered Species Act is the best tool our nation has to protect

species of imperiled plants and animals.  The Act is recognized world wide

for its effectiveness in conserving biological diversity.  We ask your

support for protecting our current and future sources of medicinal

products.  The Endangered Species Act protects all of us.



Sincerely,



(To date, nearly 800 medical professionals, and 100 local, regional, and

national medical associations and health advocacy groups have signed on to

the petition.)





Please indicate if you would be willing to add your name to this petition.



Reply by e-mail to jim_waltman@tws.org



Please indicate your name, title (M.D., etc.), address (at least city and

state), phone and e-mail address.



Also, indicate the name of your practice or organization if we can add it

to the petition.



Also, indicate if you would be willing to attend or speak at a local media

event on the medicinal value of species.



Thanks for your support!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:54:46 -0300

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From:         Paul Stewart <stewart@CYCOR.CA>

Subject:      Re: cranberry juice

In-Reply-To:  <013.01470255.SCAY54A@prodigy.com>



> Cranberry

> > juice accually makes your uring MORE acidic.  Cranberries  contanin

> > phenolic acid which can not be metabolized by the body and is  passed

> into

> > the urine.  Thereby making it hostile to bacteria, which  don't like

> acid conditions.

> Yes, I have read that cranberry juice will make your urine more acidic

> in some resources, but in others I have read the opposite.  I have to

> go by what works for me, and the cranberry juice does seem to

> anesthetize the urethra (at least in my case)...it works for me and

several other women



        Wasn't there a posting to this list in the past two months

concerning a substance in cranberry that actually affects the ability of

the bacteria to adhere oto the mucous membranes of the urinary tract,

allowing them to be flushed out? Anybody recall this?...I have erased the

posting.

My Virtual 2 cents.

Paul Stewart

Prince Edward Island

stewart@cycor.ca



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Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 13:06:23 CST

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From:         Carla Freeman <cjfreeman@MAIL.MILLIKIN.EDU>

Subject:      MIGRANE HEADACHES



          I've lost my recent postings on migraines.  Can any one help

          me with information on relieving them.



          Also, I would like to know if my posts are making it through

          to the list.



          cjf



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From:         lesley ann jones <LAJONEZ1@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

Subject:      Herbal Birth Control



I have found this information very useful.  This is the only form of birth

control I presently use and I am very happy with it.  I'm not necessarily

suggesting anyone try this -- use your own judgement.



WILD YAM; BIRTH CONTROL WITHOUT FEAR



Copyright 1986 by Willa Shaffer



The information contained in this book is in no wise to be considered as

prescription for any ailment.  The prescription of any medication should be

made by a duly licensed physician.



Published by:

Woodland Health Books

P.O. Box 1422, Provo, Utah 84603

Printed in the U.S.A.



(transcriber's note:  if you find this book helpful, please consider sending a

donation equal to the cover price of $2.95US to the author, Mrs. Willa Shaffer,

P.O. Box 2322, Bay City, Texas 77414)





WILD YAM: BIRTH CONTROL WITHOUT FEAR



        My first love is my practice as a Lay Midwife.  I now have one

hundred and fifty babies to my credit.  (The last baby on this total was

born only a few hours before this was written!)  Out of these one

hundred and fifty births, I delivered a set of twins and was a

participant in the birth of triplets.



        When I see girls walking around with a ten month old baby on

their hip and another one that is apparently due any minute...I want to

hand them Wild Yam and say "plan your babies".



        I am constantly confronted with problems caused by birth control

pills that doctors continue to prescribe daily.  With such horrible side

effects as cancer, birth defects, pain and general suffering, I should

think that contraception at these costs are too high to pay!



        Before I get my dander up, let me tell you about how I became

involved with my research of Wild Yam as a contraceptive.  Around the

years of 1976 or 1977, I read a magazine article in _The_Herbalist_.  I

remember only that it had a picture of a winding vine on the front

cover.  The article was very informative and told of Wild Yam's

wonderful properties, especially when used as a contraceptive!  I was so

excited that I gave it to others to read and in all the passing around,

it somehow was lost.  All the ladies who had heard of the herb wanted me

to obtain it for them.  I did a lot of searching but I could never

locate anyone who sold it.  I was also unable to find the issue of

_The_Herbalist_ that contained the information about Wild yam's value as

a contraceptive.



        I found a source for Wild Yam in July of 1981, and I lost no

time in rounding up the ladies who were interested in testing this herb.

Since July of 1981 I have tested this herb, as a contraceptive, on

approximately 75 women.  Out of the original 75 women who began testing

this product there are still 56 women who are using it as their sole

form of contraception.  Out of the 19 women who are no longer taking it,

three women decided to have a baby and intentionally became pregnant.

Six of these women forgot to take it or did not take it as I directed.

I did have one woman, the mother of five children, who got pregnant even

though she says she took the Wild Yam religiously.  The other ten women

who are no longer involved in the research dropped out for unrelated

reasons and I do not know about them.  But ladies!  A birth control with

no known side effects and obviously boasting a terrific success rate.

As to the one failure, the lady herself had this statement to make:

"Every time my husband just hangs his pants on the bedpost, I get

pregnant!"  From this comment I judged that she wasn't too surprised.

There are always a very few women, you probably know who you are, who

will get pregnant with any contraception except abstention.  These women

must look forward to large families or a tubiligation.



        The ages of the women tested ranged from 17 to 47 years of age.

The women involved had zero to six children each.  The races of the

women tested so far have included Caucasian, Negro and Latin American.

The ladies' ages, number of children and races seem to make no

difference in the performance of the herb.  With the one exception it

has proved one hundred percent effective.



        A very important finding is that in the four years I have been

testing this contraceptive I have had absolutely NO reports of side

effects nor have I observed any detrimental effects on my own.  I

repeat, there has been no evidence of weight gain, swelling, cramping or

hormone change associated with this herb.  These unpleasant side effects

are commonly associated with prescription birth control pills, along

with more serious and devastating side effects, some of which we have

already mentioned.  What we have is a choice between a drug that is

infamous for its adverse effects on the user and a new, but very

successful, natural herb that accomplishes the desired birth control

with no side effects.  Hard choice?



        Let me return to the subject of the actual research and how it

developed.  When the herb became available I had no idea in what doses

to recommend it.  I remembered from what I had read that you should have

the herb in your system for quite a while before it could be relied on

as a successful contraceptive.  I did not remember how long.  Dr.

Malstrom had a standard dosage of two capsules, three times a day,

recommended on the label.  These were two problems that had me

concerned.  You see, when you're a midwife and you recommend a

contraceptive, if it fails...they will never believe that I wasn't just

trying to drum up new business.  If this were to happen I don't think I

would have remained very popular in a town of only 18,000.  I knew that

in order for prescription birth control pills to be effective, the

doctors recommend that they should be taken at least a month in advance.

I felt that should be sufficient so I advised starting Wild Yam four or

five weeks in advance.  I tested this theory on four consenting women.

Three out of the four were protected, one found herself pregnant.  I

decided to double the time needed before the Wild Yam could be relied on

as a complete contraceptive.  All the girls tested on this procedure

were safe.  My recommended dosage is three capsules in the morning and

three capsules at night.  I have had some of the girls reduce the dosage

to two in the morning and two at night.  As of this time, the reduced

dosage has still proven itself one hundred percent effective.  however,

I cannot recommend this.  If you want to be completely safe, stick with

the recommended dosage.



        Not only have I found this contraceptive to be free of harmful

side effects, but due to the wonderful calming and healing properties

found in Wild Yam, many of my ladies have found themselves in much

better health than when they began taking it.  Not only does this herb

appear to be a new revelation in birth control, it has many uses that

have been recognized for many years.  Wild Yam serves to normalize

erratic menstruation.  It relieves cramps associated with menstruation.

It is a great relief to sufferers of morning sickness and is very

effective in controlling nausea that is not related to pregnancy.  Wild

Yam has also proven to be beneficial to ulcer patients and even relieves

gas pains.



        I have been asked, "Just what does Wild Yam do to the body to

prevent impregnation?"  Since my research has been limited to the

results only, I really do not know what occurs to prevent pregnancy.

The women still maintain a normal monthly cycle.  There is no evidence

of change in their individual cycles or menstruation.  The women all

still ovulate at the appropriate time.  I can only make an educated

guess, from my research and studies, as to what actually happens.  I

believe that the Wild Yam causes the eggs to become sterile.  The woman

still ovulates (produces eggs); however, when these eggs unite with

sperm they are not productive.  Another beneficial thing about htis type

of birth control is that when the women decide to get pregnant, they

have quit taking the herb and within one to two months they are

pregnant.  The birth control pills that are available by prescription

have been accused of causing permanent infertility in some of the women

who use them.  On the other end,  your chances of becoming more fertile

after taking commercial birth control pills for a short time increase

dramatically.  This is fine if you were taking the birth control pills

to increase fertility.  Most women are not searching for increased

fertility when they are shopping for the best birth control.  Whether

you use Wild Yam or another form of oral contraceptive one rule holds

true:  YOu must take them as prescribed.  You cannot go away for the

weekend, forget your birth control and "make up for it" by taking twelve

capsules when you return home.  If you miss, protect yourself with

another method until you are sure you are safe again.  I would like to

relate a couple of stories of my experience with Wild Yam.



        A friend of mine was selling herbs for me a few years ago.  A

Spanish lady came to her and told her that she wished to purchase Wild

Yam to use as a birth control.  My friend explained to the woman that

she must use other means to protect herself for two months before

relying totally on the herb.  My friend knew the importance of these

instructions and went to great detail to explain the procedure.  To make

a long story short -- in two months I was confronted by a hysterical

pregnant woman.  She was 36 years old and her husband was 47.  They did

not want another baby at their age.  To add to the problem, her husband

was unemployed at the time.  After a time, things did improve somewhat

for them, but in all it was a very bad time.  Her husband was adamant

about not keeping the baby. It seemed that the only answer to their

predicament was to put the baby up for adoption.  As time went on, the

father calmed down and they decided they could keep the child.  They

then found out that the child was actually twins!  A girl weighing four

pounds, ten ounces was born first.  Forty-five minutes later she was

followed by a brother weighing four pounds, twelve ounces.  The twins

arrived four weeks early, but everything went fine.  Did I forget to

mention that this noble mother's youngest child before the twins was 17?

After the births, we started talking about Wild Yam.  She could not

understand why it had not worked on her, when always before it had

proven so effective.  In trying to find the answer to her question, I

asked her how long she had employed extra protection before relying on

Wild Yam alone.  Her answer was, "What do you mean by protecting?"  She

really did not understand what we meant by protecting.  I was finally

able to explain to her what the procedure should have been and she then

realized why the Wild Yam had not worked for her.  At least

understanding the blunder left her with a better impression of the Wild

Yam.



        A lady came to me one day seeking help for problems with her

menstruation.  Her problem was that she was almost always menstruating.

She would menstruate for 12 to 14 days, stop for seven or eight days and

then repeat the cycle.  She had been suffering from this for two years

and was very anemic.  The doctor that she consulted told her that she

was probably going through menopause and that there was nothing wrong

with her.  He had taken her off birth control pills a year before

because she was suffering from severe side effects from taking birth

control pills for a long time.  When she came to me for help she was 42

years old and terrified of a "Change of Life" pregnancy.  I gave her

Wild Yam, naturally, for contraception.  I had to try several herbal

combinations for her menopause problem before I settled on the most

effective for her.  I chose the combination herb, SFC for her problems.

SFC contains Blessed Thistle, Golden Seal, Red Raspberry, Squaw Vine,

Ginger, Cramp Bark. Capsicum, Uvaursi, Marshmallow Root, Lobelia and

False Unicorn.  All women's systems and problems are different and

sometimes experimentation with combination herbs are necessary to

acheive the desired effect.  Her sister decided to take Wild Yam too.

It, and the other herbs, have worked very well for both of them.  The

woman who was 42 continued taking the Wild Yam successfully until she

went through the change two years later.  Her sister is still taking the

herb.  She remembers her herbs and takes them faithfully.



        Here is a short but enlightening story.  One of my ladies went

on vacation and forgot to take along the Wild Yam.  You guessed it ...

pregnant!



        One young woman came to me to ask about Wild Yam so she could

start taking it before the wedding.  I gave her the warning that she

must take it for at least seven weeks before the wedding for the herb to

be effective.  Shortly after that she rushed in to buy Wild Yam.  They

had changed the wedding date to just four weeks away.  They gambled and

it didn't work.  She got pregnant.



        I have had several that took it two full months before their

marriages and they have all had complete success.



        On eof my girls took Wild Yam for two months before her wedding.

She did not become pregnant and continued using Wild Yam for her birth

control for a year and one-half.  At the end of this time, they decided

to have a baby.  It took only 45 days for her to become pregnant.  They

had a beautiful baby girl last year.



        One lady buys the herb by the pound, mixes it with water and

drinks it.  There are a variety of ways to use it, but the most

important thing to remember is that it works.



        Can you imagine the change it would cause if Wild Yam were to be

used on a large scale?  So many severe problems caused by the

controversial birth control pills would be extinct.  Let's all pray that

people become more aware of safe herbal remedies and preventatives that

are available.



        John Heinerman states in his book that recent clinical evidence

has shown that when the extract of Mallow Flower was administered to

dogs (which have male reproductive organs that are anatomically similar

to men), it causes substantial infertility by inhibiting the production

of spermatozen in the testicles.  Now, if I could only get my hands on

some Mallow Flower.....



        If you have enjoyed or just learned something from this little

booklet, keep your eyes open.  By this time next year I hope to have

completed my full size book entitled "DIARY OF A COUNTRY MIDWIFE".  It

will contain a complete history of my years and experiences, plus many

humorous accounts of selected memorable incidents in my life.  This book

will not only be a tale of midwifery, but will include many herbal

remedies, preventatives and herbal recipes that I have collected

throughout my life.  Not to mention a little bit of good old common

sense applied to real life.  By the way, besides the title on the future

book, they may also have my name, Willa Shaffer.



        I love to receive mail from people who want to know more about

herbs, midwifery and reflexology.  If you have any questions or anything

you would like to tell me, write me.  Address all mail to:  Mrs. Willa

Shaffer, P.O. Box 2322, Bay City, Texas 77414.  I will respond to any

sincere correspondence.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:12:42 GMT+0530

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Root Account <root@FRLHT.ERNET.IN>

Organization: Foundation for Revitalization of Local Health Traditions,

              Bangalore.

Subject:      Reg. Chinese medicine database



Hello :



There is a traditional chinese medicine database established since

1980 at the The chinese University of Hong Kong. The contact address

is :



            Dr. W.K. Kan

            Associate Director

            Chinese Medicinal Material Research Centre

            Shatin, NT

            Honk Kong.

            Tel. (852) 609 6140

            Fax. (852) 603 5440



As of Jan 1995, they have 12,000 citations recorded in their database.



Sorry, I don't have their Email address.



Incidentally I work for an organisation which is involved in setting

up an Indian Medicinal Plants distributed databases network called

INMEDPLAN. I will be glad to provide you with more information if you

are interested.



Kindly let me know of similar projects in Australia/NewZealand.



Regards,

Ravi. <ravi@frlht.ernet.in>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:06:49 +1100

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From:         "Hoschke, Andrew AH" <hoschke.andrew.ah@BHP.COM.AU>

Subject:      Australian Herbs



Recently someone replied to the list stating "It's best to use local herbs"

(sorry I didn't  catch the name). I have always felt this, but I am unable

to find any information or suppliers of local east coast Australian herbs.

Could anyone help. Thanks in advance.



Andrew



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 18 Sep 1995 18:54:24 -0700

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From:         Kim Patten <pattenk@COOPEXT.CAHE.WSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



At 05:40 PM 9/14/95 +1000, you wrote:

>>I have a friend who gets many many bladder infections.  Does anyone know of

>>an herb/combination of herbs that would help rather than taking antibiotics

>>numerous times a year.

>>

Cranberry juice has been proven to help in several recent research programs.

Kim Patten

Washington State University Long Beach Research and Extension Unit

Rt. 1, Box 570, Long Beach WA 98631

phone and fax 360-642-2031

e-mail pattenk@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:20:14 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Rhodiola heterodonta??

Comments: To: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk

Comments: cc: HOLISTIC%SIUCVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu



19 Sep 95 ref 5091902



Subject: Rhodiola heterodonta.



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name, common name and any references to its use in folk medicine,

aromatherapy etc. It may be related to Rhodiola rosea(Sedum rosea) but I

am particularly interested in any Phytochemical database info which might

differentiate this species from other known Rhodiola species.



Regards,

---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:41:08 GMT

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From:         Viper <viper@ONEOTA.COM>

Subject:      echinacea



NOTE: This message was originally addressed to HOLISTIC@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU

      and was forwarded to you by VIPER

                          --------------------

Recently I saw a bunch of people talking about how everyone says that

you should only use echinacea for a few days then take a few days off so

your body doesn't develop a tolerance to it which makes it useless.  A

very experienced herbalist I met at Herb Fest in Norway Iowa (which was

fantastic, by the way) told us that it's a bunch of nonsense.  Your body

does not develop any kind of tolerance to echinacea.  You don't have to

take a break from it.  In fact, when people use it they probably don't

use enough of it, but on the other hand, people may be using it far too

often (i.e. when it won't do any good).  Echinacea is an immune system

booster, which means it will help you fight off illness *if you have an

intact immune system*.  If your immune system is already compromised,

echinacea won't help, in fact it may put more of a burdern on an already

overloaded system.  Hope this helps, and don't take _my_ word for it,

but try to find good information and not just go by what everybody says,

even if everybody is saying it!

Vi



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:12:35 -0400

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From:         Shirley Traite <traite@SDAC.HARVARD.EDU>

Subject:      Intro and question re: Aloe



Hello All!

This is my first posting to this list. I've been lurking for just

about a month now and I am finding everything quite interesting.

If experience is any indication I will probably mostly lurk but

you will most likely hear from me from time to time.



I've been growing and using herbs for over a decade but have only

in the past year and a half felt confident enough to use them

medicinally.  I am learning a lot from you all!  Thank you so much.



I have a few questions I thought someone might be able to help me with.

They concern the aloe plant. (Sorry I don't have the latin name here at

my work place.)  The first (two part) question I have is:  Does anyone

know how to store the extracted juice/jelly from the plant?

Additionally, how long  will extracted juice/jelly last?

My second question is in regards to propagation.  I've noticed that

my aloe plant (currently about 2.5 feet  tall) is growing babies at it's base.

Can I safely just dig them up and stick them in moist soil in another pot?

(I did that with one baby about 3 weeks ago but it hasn't developed

roots yet.)



Thanks so much!

------

Shirley Traite                           |Harvard School of Public Health

Statistical Programmer                   |Blg 1, Rm 1204 677 Huntington Ave

Center for Biostatistics in AIDS Research|Boston, MA  USA 02115

Dept. of Biostatistics                   |traite@sdac.harvard.edu





From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 11:38:21 -0400

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From:         mberg <allyoop@USIT.NET>

Subject:      Migranes



My Mother and brother both suffered for years from severe migranes that

would last for days and cause nausea.After several doctors and many drugs

they saw an allergist and sure enough, their migranes were triggered by

chemicals in certain foods. I cannot remember everything on their lists (

which were long) but they both had some common items to avoid. Caffine,

chocolate, fermented foods/ pickled foods,red wine and raw onions. I know

that I cannot drink red wines, eat horseradish or eat raw honey or I will

get a bad headache. Perhaps your doctor will refer you to a good allergist,

I hope this helps.



        While I'm here thanks for everyones' suggestions about my daughters

diarrhea. She has seen her doctor and tested negative for parisites.  He

recomended finding the culprit(s) in her diet on my own before we see an

allergist. I cannot get her to eat much shredded apple, the yogurt made

things worse, I could not find Poi ( I live in the country- no asian

groceries). She loved blackberries this summer when they were fresh , but

won't eat them now that they've been frozen. She will eat bananas and does

not drink all that much juice during the day, 6-8 oz in a whole day watered

down each time. I have slippery elm powder on it's way ( how much should I

give her?). For now the relief has been rice water. It has not dramatically

changed things, but we no longer have puddles on the floor. I give her two

oz of it mixed with one oz of pear or apple juice twice a day. Should I

give her more? Her appetite has dropped off and she isn't eating any

vegtables now, mostly rice and ricebased products. I will try to start

introducing other food back in this week( one at a time).

        thanks, Alison



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:17:27 -0500

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From:         Liz Vose <liz@ERVOSE.MV.COM>

Subject:      Nice little herb book for identification



Please do not *flame* me if this has already been mentioned but I just

bought a little book titled "Herbs" from Eyewitness Handbooks by Leslie

Bremness who lives in Suffolk, England.  It is published in the US by

Dorling Kindersley Publishing, Inc., 95 Madison Avenue, New York, NY 10016.



Each herb is photoed (not drawn), plus the family, species, local name,

habitat, and parts of the plant used is listed in little borders around the

pictures.  Each picture has a small text of what it is, it's uses, and any

special remarks.



The beginning part of the book tells generally about different parts of an

herb and how to use each part.    It tells how to make tea, tinctures, ect.

The main part of the book is divided into sections: Trees, Shrubs,

Herbaceous Perennials, Annuals and Biennials, Vines, Other Herbs.  The

index seems very easy to use to find the plants needed.



I had to share my excitement of finally finding a smaller book that I can

carry around outside and has real photos.  This book was $17.95.  I have

several other large herb books that are much more detailed but are no

convenient to carry around outside.  I would never use this book for the

very last word on anything but it is a very good starting point.



Liz in Maine (Zone 5)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:21:47 -0400

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From:         /Jennifer North <JNWildflwr@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herb for bladder infections



Chronic bladder infections are usually a symptom of candida, which is

scientific jargon for excessive yeast overgrowth.  There are many things that

can be done for this condition, but it must be taken seriously.  Candida can

make women miserable for a lifetime.  The first thing is that yeast feeds on

sugar.  Refined and natural sugars.  She should stay away from juices (except

cranberry), refined sugar products, dried fruits, etc.  She should drink A

LOT of water, all the time.  She should always take a good multivitamin,

1,000 m of vitamin c, and most importantly take acidophilus everyday.

 Acidophilus is the culture that makes yoghurt.  She should take it in

powdered or capsule form three times a day.  Scince this is a chronic

problem, she should continue even after the infection is gone.



THese dietary changes should be long-term for her.  When the candida is in

check, she can go back to MODERATE sugars, but always accompany it with the

acidophilus.  She should also stay away from fermented products (incl.

alchohol) when she has the infections.  One last point.  Antibiotics destroy

the positive flora in the intestine, which is what destroys excessive yeast

and keeps it in check.  Therefore, the antibiotics may kill the bladder

infection, but it will only serve to compound the underlying problem, causing

the infections to become a permanent and annoying part of her life.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:47:00 EST

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From:         "Laird, Becky L." <blh3@CIDDVD1.EM.CDC.GOV>

Subject:      asthma?



 Good day all,

     I think I remember some discussion on herbs that help asthma but I

didn't save it. I now have a friend that has a neice that is 6 years old who

has asthma. I know about most of the foods she should avoid and I thought I

remembered some thing about lobeilia but I can't recall for sure. If anyone

has any suggestions it would be appreciated. Thanks for your time..



                              Becky L.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:18:00 -0800

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From:         Greg Holbron <HOLBRON.GREG@DEPS.PPL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herbs in walkway



In response to:



>>Subject: Herbs in walkway



I'd like to use herbs as a pathway between our gardens(HERB GARDENS

of course). What  would be a sweet smelling hardy herb? I gather

Thyme might suffice, but which thyme? Carawy Thyme is very pleasent

but would it handle the everyday traffic?<<





Roman Chamomile is a perennial herb that can stand foot traffic, spreads

easily, and smell nice when you walk on it.  It has the added benefit of

providing flowers for tea during most of the spring/summer/fall.  Foot

traffic will keep it worn down so that you won't have to clip it except on

the edges.  It will spread by seeds and runners.  a clump here and there

along the path should fill in easily in a year.



The problem with creeping thymes in a path (lavender, mother, caraway,

wooly, etc.) is that they don't stand up to more than occasional traffic.

 In my experience, wooly thyme is the most durable, and it has the

characteristic thyme scent when walked on.  Thyme is effective when grown in

between steeping stones on paths.  Traffic will keep it worn off the ares

most used and lend an overgrown look to the areas little used.



Organic Gardening magazine has had several articles in the last year about

low/no mow ground covers, including herbs.  I could provide the issue

numbers/dates if any one would like.



Good Growing,

Greg Holbron

Holbron.Greg@deps.ppl.com

 ----------



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:46:58 -0400

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From:         Rick Scott <ricks@VIVANET.COM>

Subject:      Gum pocket

Comments: To: HERB%TREARN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de, aromatherapy-l@netcom.com



I just found out I have a small gum pocket behind my last upper molar (Yuk!).

The dentist said to clean the pocket daily with a pointy rubber tip (the kind

you can buy in the drug store). When I asked if I could do anything else to

help the healing process, he said Listerine couldn't hurt.



Any advice on how to heal my pocket?



Thanks in advance,



Rick





From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:27:02 -0300

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From:         Paul Stewart <stewart@CYCOR.CA>

Subject:      Re: Gum pocket

In-Reply-To:  <9509191732.aa21203@vivanet.vivanet.com>



On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, Rick Scott wrote:



> I just found out I have a small gum pocket behind my last upper molar (Yuk!).

> The dentist said to clean the pocket daily with a pointy rubber tip (the kind

> you can buy in the drug store). When I asked if I could do anything else to

> help the healing process, he said Listerine couldn't hurt.

> Any advice on how to heal my pocket?

> Thanks in advance,> Rick



Rick:

        Here's the scoop from my dad, a dental surgeon for over 30 years.

The pocket is staying flaccid because of a chronic low-grade infection of

bacteria that don't need much oxygen (anaerobes) This probably smells

like hell sometimes too!

        To tighten up the elastic tissue in the gum, you need to take the

inflammation down. Buy a water pik and irrigate the pocket with warm salt

water (1 tbsp in 3-4 cups warm water), 2-3 times /day, especially before

bed. In a week you should see lots of improvement. And, no matter how

tempting, don't usse picks or fingernails to dig the pocket clean.

Secondary infection will be sure to result. If you can't afford a water

pik, use a syringe (no needle!) or large eye-dropper. Rinsing vigorously

for at least 1 minute will do it too. No offense to your DDS friend, but

mouthwashes used excessively will reduce the "good" bacteria in the mouth

and dehydrate the inflamed tissue, slowing healing and begging for more

infection, since the natural bacterial flora of the mouth prevent decay-

and disease-causing bacteria from spreading. Good luck, and tell me how

it goes.



Paul Stewart

Prince Edward Island

CANADA   stewart@cycor.ca



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 18:59:15 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Richters HerbLetter 95/09/19 23:00 GMT

Comments: To: herb-list@richters.com



-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue ID: 95/09/19 23:00 GMT



Contents

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Now is the Time to Harvest Roots to Make Home Remedies

------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Conrad Richter



   [This article will appear in the Kanada Kurier weekly

   German language newspaper on October 5.]



GOODWOOD, Oct. 5, Kanada Kurier -- Fall is my favourite season.

With cooler nights our world will soon become colourized.  A

brilliant last flash of colour before bedding down for the winter.



For herbs with medicinal roots, now is the time to collect herbs

like ginseng, valerian (baldrian), and comfrey (beinwell).

Research at the University of Quebec has shown that medicinal

roots reach their largest biomass and highest potency in October

and November, well after the above ground parts have declined

with the killing frosts.  Like their colourful arboreal cousins,

herbs are programmed to withdraw nutrients from the leaves and

stems and store them in the roots for the winter.



Ginseng is so synonymous with China that few know that it is

native to Canada.  In fact, ginseng was the first plant-based

export from North America -- collected by the Six Nations Indians

and exported to China on ships by the Jesuits.  Four centuries of

collection have virtually wiped out our wild stands, but in

cultivation it is now the largest herb crop in Canada -- nearing

$100 million in annual sales.  While claims of ginseng s

medicinal value have been slow to gain to acceptance in Canada,

converts are quick to tell you one billion Chinese cannot be

wrong, and indeed with the rise of the Chinese economy and

purchasing power the demand for Canadian ginseng is exploding.



Ginseng can be grown in most any shaded garden: its modest

demands are 70% shade and a well-drained, rich soil.  Otherwise

it is fairly simple to grow -- the stratified seeds are planted

in the fall where they will germinate next spring, and three or

four years later they are ready for harvest. Resembling a pale

carrot, the root can be chewed raw, preserved in syrup, or dried.



What can ginseng do?  Research is proving many of the old claims

once dismissed by in the West.  For example, research at McMaster

University in Hamilton has shown that ginseng can enlarge blood

vessels and increase blood flow.  For men suffering impotence

from reduced from clogged arteries in the penis, ginseng can

help.  As my mother once put it, with a twinkle in her eye,

ginseng makes you feel better, and if you feel better everything

works better.



Valerian is well known among Germans.  In Germany baldrian

tinctures are widely available in apothekes for their mild

sedative value.  Easy-to-grow, the tall perennial will grow in

full or part sun, sending up sprays of white flowers 1.2 meters

high in summer.  Unlike chemically-based sedatives, valerian

roots are not addictive and are not known to have serious side-

effects. Valerian is not a "knock-you-out" sedative, but many

find it calms the system enough to induce good sleep.  Roots can

be used in tea but the flavour and odour is off-putting (except

to cats, strangely enough), so the best way to prepare it is to

make an alcoholic tincture which will keep for years.



Comfrey is a marvelous healing herb.  Beinwell can promote fast

healing in damaged tissues and bones, and we have many confirming

reports from our customers. Unfortunately, it has been the victim

of a medical witch-hunt and Canada now prohibits the sale of

comfrey remedies.  The decision to ban comfrey was based on a few

laboratory studies that showed animals fed diets very high in

comfrey, damage to the liver can follow.  A few isolated human

case studies seemed to suggest the same, although in each case

comfrey was consumed in absurdly high amounts.  In the 1960s and

1970s it had become fashionable to eat comfrey leaves or drink

the root tea regularly because the plant is high in vitamin B12

and protein.



In fact, comfrey has been used safely for at least 1000 years,

but it was never taken as a nutritional supplement.  It was used

externally as a poultice or ointment to treat ulcers, skin

diseases, strained ligaments, and broken bones.  Internal use was

confined to short term problems like bleeding ulcers.  The roots

and leaves contain a soothing mucilage and an interesting

compound called allantoin.  Allantoin is a cell-proliferant that

promotes cell division necessary for rapid healing.  It is a

natural human hormone, otherwise found in pregnant women,

presumably to promote rapid growth of the fetus.



Comfrey is a deep-rooted perennial, easy to grow and very hardy.

It will survive in most gardens in Canada in full sun or part

shade, but before planting be sure of where you want it to grow

because it can be hard to remove.  It is easy to use: just

macerating a few fresh roots and applying as a poultice to

wounded tissues will work wonders.  To preserve comfrey for later

use, roots can be sliced and dried, or prepared fresh in

ointments made from petroleum jelly and beeswax.



------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 730 herb plants,

   seeds, and dried herbs.  Order by email at catalog@richters.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------



RICHTERS HERBS                     | Info:                 info@richters.com

Goodwood, ON  L0C 1A0, Canada      | Catalog Requests:  catalog@richters.com

Tel +1-905-640-6677  Fax 640-6641  | What's New for '95:    new@richters.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:58:37 -0500

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From:         lisa freeman <lifreema@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      cough syrup (fwd)



I understand Butcher's Broom is fantastic.  I've stored it but haven't

needed it yet.



---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:15:39 -0400

From: Claudette A. Aras <Carras@AOL.COM>

To: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR>

Subject: cough syrup



Greetings.  Can anyone recommend a superwhammie cough remedy they've tried

and found efficacious?  So far I've collected yarrow, horehound, & mullien,

all of which should be great, but in what proportions?  And what other

ingredients might be added to up the potency?  Thanks in advance.  carras.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:53:20 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: cough syrup



Claudette,



Have you tried:



A tea of



Mullien - great Lung herb should always be in a mixture for the lungs, helps

stop coughing when the lungs are infected or imflammed, but lets you cough

if you need to.



Osha - by far the best herb for the throat, with upper espiratory properties

also. Unfortunately, the ingredients are not very water soluble, so you'll

have to add tincture.



An expectorant with a light hand - not too much Coltsfoot ot Horehound, it

may make you cough too much.



Perhaps something soothing and tasty like Licorice, or even hibiscus, or if

by chance you have fresh lemon grass growing in your yard (don't we all?),

use that too.



Perhaps even some calming herb like skullcap or a yummy Pedicularis. After

all, these herbs are for spasms ... and coughing is bronchial spasms.



After straining, add an equal amount (or more) by volume of honey. This

won't satisfy the US Dept. of Agriculture's definition of syrup (65% soluble

sweetener I believe), but it does just fine, and is plenty sweet. Store in

the refrigerator.



And go ahead and add that Yarrow if you want, but don't boil., just steep.



Just a few suggestions,



*****************************************************************************

Howie B

C&W Herbs, Inc.

Eugene, Or USA



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."

*****************************************************************************



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:11:08 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: echinacea



I recently read that  Edchinacea is boosted by pairing it with wild indigo.

Nerver tried this but it sounds interesting.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:04:17 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbs in walkway



I'd suggest wooly thyme. Very hardy and smells good.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:17:46 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Migranes



Slippery elm can be prepared as folows.

Cut 1 oz Slippery Elm Bark into small

pieces about as thick as a match and 1/2

 inch long, add pinch Cayenne, a slice

of lemon and 1-2 tsp honey.  Pour on 1

 pt. boiling water. Cover and stand till

 cold.  Let patient drink the wole of it

 in the course of the day. It can be

strained or not.  Good for consumption.

or gruel prepared thus:

Mix 1 1/2 tsp powdered bark and 1 tsp

sugar to a paste with cold water. Care

 must be taken to beat out all lumps.

 Have 1/2 pt. milk on the stove and as

milk reaches boiling, stir in the Elm

mixture.  Keep stirring 5-10 seconds,

pour off and drink warm.  A dash of

cimmamon may be added or nutmeg.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 00:45:01 -0700

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From:         Frank Brown <BROWNF@SONOMA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbs in walkway



I prefer chamomile, for blissful scent. Also stands up to trampling and

is low-maintenane (maintenance).



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 07:38:09 -0400

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From:         "John S. Zullo" <jszullo@SOHO.IOS.COM>

Subject:      John Easterling Article & Interview



I have a short article by John Easterling on Una de Gato (Cat's Claw) and an interview with John Easterling and

Dr. Eric Innes on cassette. They discuss the herbs of the Amazon Rainforest, including Una de Gato. Any interested,

please email me directly, and I will email the article back to you. Send me your postal address if you would like a

free cassette tape.



Regards,

John Zullo

jszullo@soho.ios.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 06:50:10 -0500

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From:         "R.M.K." <iss@RCI.RIPCO.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herbs in walkway/ mow



To: HERB@trearnpc.EGE.EDU.TR

Subject: Re: Herbs in walkway/ mowing herbs



 BOB SCOTT <URWD77A@PRODIGY.COM>  wrote:

|

|I'd like to use herbs as a pathway between our gardens(HERB GARDENS

|of course). What  would be a sweet smelling hardy herb? I gather

|Thyme might suffice, but which thyme? Carawy Thyme is very pleasent

|but would it handle the everyday traffic?

|



there is an excellent article & chart in the current <Aug-Sep'95> 'Herb

Companion' magazine... on pathway/ crevice/ wall herbal groundcovers.



FOR WALKWAYS are listed: Roman Chamomile, Corsican mint, golden

moneywort, minature/pink creeping/red-flowered/& woolly THYMES, Greek/&

Woolly YARROWS.



also listed are herbal varieties for walls & edges + much on cultivation

and landscaping... might be worth picking up a copy.



Rob.

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:25:54 -0400

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From:         Amelia Carr <acarr@ALLEG.EDU>

Subject:      Unused seeds?  Question for Richter's



        This question may be directed specifically toward Conrad

Richter, but I'd like the input of the entire list.

        I find myself with unused packets of seeds packaged for

1995.  Some of these represent my own miscalculations or changes of

plans, but some arrived in the mail as free samples, gifts, etc.

Some of these are, in fact, Richter seeds.

        What is the best thing to do with them?  What's the best

storage method and what are the probabilities of germination next

year?  Is it really possible to plant them or sprinkle them on the

ground now, to duplicate natural re-seeding efforts (as a friend

suggested to me)?



Thanks,

Amelia Carr

acarr@alleg.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 17 Sep 1995 23:13:56 -0400

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From:         "Joyce M. Schertz" <JoyceMS@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: cough syrup



Try making and drinking "Boneset" tea. It will knock out a cold.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:47:47 -0400

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From:         MaryEllen Drewes <SunnyMED@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Aloe



Regarding aloe extraction:



You can put whole leaves in the blender and puree.  It will be good, kept

refrigerated, for at least a month.   For a cough suppresant and to open

congested chest:  Take a liter of honey, the juice of 6 lemons and one liter

of aloe puree. Mix and drink (from a cup, since it is too slippery to stay on

the spoon) about an ounce in the morning and evening.



To your health!

MaryEllen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:05:17 -0400

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From:         Joanna Bartlett <joannab@FREENET.SCRI.FSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: echinacea

In-Reply-To:  <9509190305109657@oneota.com>



I have be told/taught also that Echinacea does not help a compromised

immnune system.  Such as that with CFIDS - Chronic Fatigue Immune

Dysfunction Syndrome.  It stresses the system further.

Just adding my two cents.



Sil

<smile>



On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, Viper wrote:



> NOTE: This message was originally addressed to HOLISTIC@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU

>       and was forwarded to you by VIPER

>                           --------------------

> Recently I saw a bunch of people talking about how everyone says that

> you should only use echinacea for a few days then take a few days off so

> your body doesn't develop a tolerance to it which makes it useless.  A

> very experienced herbalist I met at Herb Fest in Norway Iowa (which was

> fantastic, by the way) told us that it's a bunch of nonsense.  Your body

> does not develop any kind of tolerance to echinacea.  You don't have to

> take a break from it.  In fact, when people use it they probably don't

> use enough of it, but on the other hand, people may be using it far too

> often (i.e. when it won't do any good).  Echinacea is an immune system

> booster, which means it will help you fight off illness *if you have an

> intact immune system*.  If your immune system is already compromised,

> echinacea won't help, in fact it may put more of a burdern on an already

> overloaded system.  Hope this helps, and don't take _my_ word for it,

> but try to find good information and not just go by what everybody says,

> even if everybody is saying it!

> Vi

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:34:36 -0500

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From:         lisa freeman <lifreema@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      essential oils



This may not directly relate to the practice of using medicinal herbs,

but does anyone out there know the proper procedure for extracting

essential oils?  They are very costly per ounce, depending on which ones

you buy.  I'd love to find out how to just do it myself.



Thanks



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 19 Sep 1995 21:18:19 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Richters HerbLetter 95/09/19 REVISED

Comments: To: herb-list@richters.com



-----------------------   Richters Herbletter   ------------------------

   Published by:     Richters, Canada's Herb Specialists

                     Goodwood, Ontario L0C 1A0, Canada

   Editor:           Conrad Richter <conrad@richters.com>



                     *** Trial issue: feedback welcome ***

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue ID: 95/09/19 REVISED

(Replaces previously sent issue; corrects grammar.)



Contents

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Now is the Time to Harvest Roots to Make Home Remedies

------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Conrad Richter



   [This article will appear in the Kanada Kurier weekly

   German language newspaper on October 5.]



GOODWOOD, Oct. 5, Kanada Kurier -- Fall is my favourite season.

Our forests will soon be colourized, a brilliant last flash of

colour before bedding down for the grey winter.  This is the time

to collect herbs with medicinal roots, like ginseng, valerian

(baldrian), and comfrey (beinwell).  Research at the University

of Quebec has shown that medicinal roots reach their largest size

and highest potency in October and November, well after the

above ground parts have died down with the killing frosts.

Like their colourful arboreal cousins, herbs are programmed to

withdraw nutrients from the leaves and stems and store them in

the roots for the winter.



Ginseng is so synonymous with China that few know that it is

native to Canada.  In fact, ginseng was the first plant-based

export from North America -- collected by the Six Nations Indians

and exported to China on ships by the Jesuits.  Four centuries of

collection have virtually wiped out our wild stands; but in

cultivation it is now the largest herb crop in Canada -- nearing

$100 million in annual sales.  While claims of ginseng's

medicinal value have been slow to gain to acceptance in Canada,

converts are quick to tell you that one billion Chinese cannot be

wrong, and with the rise of the Chinese economy and purchasing

power the demand for Canadian ginseng is climbing.



Ginseng can be grown in most any shaded garden: its modest

demands are 70% shade and a well-drained, rich soil.  Otherwise

it is fairly simple to grow -- the stratified seeds are planted

in the fall where they will germinate next spring, and three or

four years later the roots are ready for harvest. Resembling a

pale carrot, the root can be chewed raw, preserved in syrup, or

dried.



What can ginseng do?  Research is proving many of the old claims

once dismissed by in the West.  For example, research at McMaster

University has shown that ginseng can enlarge blood vessels and

increase blood flow.  For men suffering from impotence caused by

clogged arteries to the penis, ginseng can help.  As my mother

once put it, with a twinkle in her eye, ginseng makes you feel

better, and if you feel better everything works better.



Valerian is well known among Germans.  In Germany baldrian

tinctures are widely available in apothekes for their mild

sedative value.  Easy-to-grow, the hardy perennial will grow in

full or part sun, sending up sprays of white flowers a meter high

in summer.  Unlike chemically-based sedatives, valerian roots are

not addictive and are not known to have serious side-effects.

Valerian does not knock you out; rather, it calms the system

enough to induce good sleep.  It can be taken as a tea but the

flavour and odour is off-putting (except to cats, strangely

enough).  The best way to prepare it is to make an alcoholic

tincture which will keep for years.



Comfrey is a marvelous healing herb.  Beinwell can promote fast

healing in damaged tissues and bones, and we have many confirming

reports from our customers. Unfortunately, it has been the victim

of a medical witch-hunt and Canada now prohibits the sale of

comfrey remedies.  The decision to ban comfrey was based on a few

laboratory studies that showed animals fed diets very high in

comfrey suffered liver damage.  A few isolated human case studies

seemed to suggest the same, although in each case comfrey was

consumed in absurdly high amounts.  In the 1960s and 1970s it had

become fashionable to eat comfrey leaves or drink the root tea

regularly because the plant is high in vitamin B12 and protein.



In fact, comfrey has been used safely for at least 1000 years,

but it was never taken as a nutritional supplement.  It was used

externally as a poultice or ointment to treat ulcers, skin

diseases, strained ligaments, and broken bones.  Internal use was

confined to short term treatments for problems like bleeding

ulcers.  The roots and leaves contain a soothing mucilage and an

interesting compound called allantoin.  Allantoin is a cell-

proliferant that promotes cell division necessary for rapid

healing.  It is a natural human hormone found in pregnant women,

presumably to promote rapid growth of the fetus.



Comfrey is a deep-rooted perennial, easy to grow and very hardy.

It will survive in most gardens in Canada in full sun or part

shade, but before planting be sure of where you want it to grow

because it can be hard to remove.  It is easy to use: just

macerating a few fresh roots and applying as a poultice to

wounded tissues will work wonders.  To preserve comfrey for later

use, roots can be sliced and dried, or a convenient ointment can

be made from fresh macerated roots, petroleum jelly and beeswax.



------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Richters Herb Catalogue: 100 pages, colour, over 730 herb plants,

   seeds, and dried herbs.  Order by email at catalog@richters.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------





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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:16:34 -0400

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From:         "Claudette A. Aras" <Carras@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: cough syrup



wow Howie - muchas gracias for the superior recepie.  It's exactly the kind

of reply I was hoping for when I posted my query:  something complete

w/herbal explanations, specific directions for preparation, etc.  And it's

exactly the high quality info I've come to expect from you.

   Guess what, I made up a batch and it even tastes good!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:17:06 EDT

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From:         BOB SCOTT <URWD77A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Tumors in the liver(carcinoid)



A friend of mine  has been diagnosed with tumors in the

liver(carcinoids), he'sat his wits end as to what to do. The Drs.have

said surgery will help ,but they give him 5 years of life after the

surgery. Does anyone have any recomendations? Perhaps he can see a

good herbalist. He lives in Endicott,NY which is about 70 miles South

of Syracuse, appreciate any help andI'll pass on the information.

                      Thanks in advance for any info.



                        Bob Scott  URWD77A.prodigy.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:12:20 +0900

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From:         Darryl McGrath <danmac@GOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Esential Oils



>From:    lisa freeman <lifreema@INDIANA.EDU>

>Subject: essential oils



>but does anyone out there know the proper procedure for extracting

>essential oils?  They are very costly per ounce, depending on which ones



Hi Lisa,



This 'recipe' was given to me by another member of our list who is

unfortunately no longer on the list. It's for mint oil, but the process

would probably work for other herbs as well. I haven't had time to try it

yet, but why don't you give it a try and let me know how it goes?



Here is the recipe for mint oil:



Loosely pack the aerial parts of the plant at the bottom of a large canning

pot (stainless steel) The pile should be about 4 inches high. Place a wire

rack (or other support) on top of the mint pile--make sure that it doesn't

touch the pile. Cover the mint pile with water. Place a bowl on top of the

rack. Cover

the pot with the lid UPSIDE DOWN. AS the water begins to boil, fill the inverted

lid with ice cubes. The oils vaporize and condense when they make contact

with the cold lid, dripping from the low point of the inverted lid into the

bowl. Accordingly, some moisture will also condense but the oil (being

lighter) floats. The oil will keep indefinately if refrigerated.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 1995 17:27:45 -0600

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From:         Michael Adams <micadam@BENTLEY.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Esential Oils



>This 'recipe' was given to me by another member of our list who is

>unfortunately no longer on the list. It's for mint oil, but the process

>would probably work for other herbs as well. I haven't had time to try it

>yet, but why don't you give it a try and let me know how it goes?

>

I tried this with some spearmint from my yard. The kitchen smelled

wonderful as this was going on, but I may have missed something here

because I ended up with a bowl of water (maybe distilled water). There was

no oil on the top, no aroma to it, nothing. I even boiled this water for a

while to reduce it and see if the oil would concentrate, but it didn't.



It was almost worth the work just for the beautiful aroma of the mint, though.





======================\/======================

Michael Adams

Writer/Editor, University News & Publications

University of Northern Colorado, Greeley, Colorado 80639

micadams@mail.UnivNorthCo.edu



If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 1995 20:33:17 -0400

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From:         Laura Formholtz <Cupid999@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Australian Herbs



Andrew,



   Don't know if you got the info on the Austrailian herbs, but I use one

called Melaleuca in the form of an oil.  It's in my cleaning products,

personal products, pharmaceuticals.  It's relatively inexpensive to buy these

products direct from the company at wholesale too.



Laura



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 1995 17:47:58 -0400

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From:         MARIA A TURCO <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Aloe -Reply

Comments: To: SunnyMED@AOL.COM



Hi everyone!



Regarding aloe, I saw a post that reccomended putting a whole leaf of

aloe in a blender - YUCK!



I have been going to Aruba for 18 years, I have used alot of aloe.

There I found very large and thick leaves.  If you cut it and squeeze

it - the smell is reminiscent of bad body oder, or cambell's chicken

soup!  The stuff that stinks is the yellow liquid that oozes from the

green leaves.  Wrapped within the green leaf is a clear jelly.  This

stuff has almost no odor.  I do not know if I am missing out on any

important properties by avoiding the green part, I do not know how

long it is good for.  Here's what I do know...



If you cut off a leaf at the base, then cut at one of the edges up

along that edge to the tip, then cut accross to the other edge (to

remove the strip that is flat), then you have a ) ?curved shape

filled with the clear jelly.  If you take the Jelly out of the leaf,

it is hard to break the big glob into a liquid so I always took a

spoon and scraped it (that makes it liquid) and let it drip into a

jar or bowl.



My aunt in Venezuela takes a mayonaise jar, fills it with the aloe,

and screws it into her blender in place of the glass pitcher (take it

apart, you should be able to do that), then she blends it.  In a

regular pitcher blender it is difficult to break into a liquid

because there is too much room and the aloe chunks get away from the

metal at the bottom of the blender.  You also loose alot that way.



Sorry if this was hard to understand, but it is hard to explain

without being able to draw it!   flat part?  I)  ?curved part (a

cross section of the leaf)

 

Hope this is helpful!



Maria

(turcomar)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:24:08 -0400

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Unused seeds?  Question for Richter's



Amelia Carr <acarr@ALLEG.EDU> writes:



>         This question may be directed specifically toward Conrad

> Richter, but I'd like the input of the entire list.

>         I find myself with unused packets of seeds packaged for

> 1995.  Some of these represent my own miscalculations or changes of

> plans, but some arrived in the mail as free samples, gifts, etc.

> Some of these are, in fact, Richter seeds.

>         What is the best thing to do with them?  What's the best

> storage method and what are the probabilities of germination next

> year?  Is it really possible to plant them or sprinkle them on the

> ground now, to duplicate natural re-seeding efforts (as a friend

> suggested to me)?



For most seeds, storage in cool and dry conditions is best.  Seal opened

and unopened seed packets in a plastic bag and store in a fridge.  It is

important to keep the seeds dry so it does not hurt to add a silica gel

packet before sealing.



Please note that this is a generalization: some species (not many) actually

prefer to be stored at room temperature, some must be stored wet, and

many will store perfectly well without significant loss of viability for

several years in a cool, dry cupboard or drawer.  Basil seeds, for

example, will last 5 years without much loss, but anise and caraway lose

viability within a year.



The business of sowing now outdoors is recommended for perennial and

woody plants that require a freeze and thaw cycle to break dormancy.

This is a specialized area and requires specific knowledge of the

species you are working with.  For example, angelica needs a cold

stratification of 7-8 weeks for optimum germination, but if they are

sown outdoors in fall they will germinate next spring.  It is important

to realize that most of the common culinary herbs do not exhibit seed

dormancy, so fall sowing does not confer any special advantage, and in

fact, in the face of choking weeds it is probably better to wait till

next spring when you will be more attentive to the little seedlings.



Conrad Richter





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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:28:45 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Maclura aurantiaca

Comments: cc: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



22 Sep ref 5092203



Subject: Maclura aurantiaca



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

phytochemical. One reference locally mentions Maclura in a discussion of

mulberry related species  and its use in herb medical extracts using

fruits of this species.



Regards,



---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:39:26 -0400

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From:         MaryEllen Drewes <SunnyMED@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: essential oils



There are a few different things you can do but the simplest would be to

infuse a vegetable oil with the botanical material of your choice.  I say

this because most essential oils are very powerful and so should be used in a

"carrier" oil anyway.



Put the herb in some good cold-pressed almond, grapeseed, apricot kernel or

vegetable oil of your choice. Leave for 24 hrs, then pull out the botanical

material and put in fresh.  Repeat for 2 or 3 weeks, depending on how strong

a concentration you want.  Then make sure to keep this in a cool place, away

from strong light, to keep it from oxidizing and USE IT (don't keep it too

long, it will go rancid.  You might as well get as much benefit from it as

possible, rather than saving it for a special occasion.)



Enjoy your experiment!

MaryEllen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:09:46 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Gum pocket



Make an infusion of Gold thread or goldenseal root and Myrrh. Wash your

mouth out and rub area with cotton swab soaked in the infusion. It won't

hurt if you swallow some of the infusion.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:59:11 -0700

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From:         N Bhatia <nbhatia@UCDAVIS.EDU>

Subject:      Trichosanthes kirilowii

Comments: To: clr@dunyo.tashkent.su



---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:59:32 +0500

From: Charles L. Rudd <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

To: Multiple recipients of list HERB <HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR>

Subject: Trichosanthes kirilowii



15 Sep 95 ref 5091504.



Subject: Trichosanthes kirilowii



Can anyone help me identify this Central Asian Plant? I need to know

family name and any references to its use in folk medicine, aromatherapy

etc.



Regards,

---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan





Hi

 I got a posting that you were interested in Trichosanthes kirilowii



Well here goes



Its from the family Cucurbitaceae. There appear to be atleast two varieties

of Trichosanthes kirilowii. One from China is often referred to as the

Mongolian

Snake Gourd or the Chinese Cucumber (I've read both names). The other is

a Japanese variety which is often designated as Kitam but from what I've

read there is considerable confusion and although we've tried to sort the

confusion the insides of plant systematics are little beyond our current

capabilities.



Medicinal Properties:

Traditionally root tubers of Trichosanthes kirilowii have been used in a

Chinese remedy called "Tian Hua Fen" which has been used an abortifacient.

As part of a screening process I think by the American Cancer Society it

was found that extracts of the tubers possess anti-HIV properties. In the

early 80s

research by H.W.Yeung and colleagues in Hong Kong identified a protein

Trichosanthin (a Ribosome inactivating protein) to be the active ingredient

of "Tian Hua Fen" and in 1989 Mike McGrath and colleagues published a paper

decribing the anti-HIV properties of Trichosanthin. Trichosanthin made it

through phase I/II clinical trials but fairly reliable sources say Genelabs

the company who was conducting the trails was unable to proceed for lack of

funds. So there it stands.

        There have been a number of other compounds found from these plants

like the Cucurbatacins and Brynolic acid and I think they appear to be

active biologically.

I've little knowledge of herbal uses of the plant as I'm researching the

ribosome inactivating proteins from Trichsanthes kirilowii. If you do I

would be interested to hear of them



Hope the information helps



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 19:17:34 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Trichosanthes kirilowii

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509221650.JAA11485@franc.ucdavis.edu> on 9/22/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Traditionally root tubers of Trichosanthes kirilowii have been used in a

: Chinese remedy called "Tian Hua Fen" which has been used an abortifacient.



Tian hua fen --means-- Tian hua root tubers. It is not the name of a

'remedy.'



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:13:48 -0700

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From:         N Bhatia <nbhatia@UCDAVIS.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Trichosanthes kirilowii



>In message ID <199509221650.JAA11485@franc.ucdavis.edu> on 9/22/95,

>HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

>

>: Traditionally root tubers of Trichosanthes kirilowii have been used in a

>: Chinese remedy called "Tian Hua Fen" which has been used an abortifacient.

>

>Tian hua fen --means-- Tian hua root tubers. It is not the name of a

>'remedy.'

>

>--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

>--



Paul is right about the name



However I quote from a paper titled "Minireview: Trichosanthin, a protein

with multiple pharmacological properties" by Pang-Chui Shaw et. al in Life

Sciences Vol 55, pp 253-262,1994 ; as follows



"Tianhuafen(THF) was mentioned in Compendium of Materia Medica written by

Li Shizhen in the late 14th century as a drug to reset menstruation and

facilitating the expulsion of retained placenta"



The Chinese have used THF for a long time in the powdered form to induce

abortion.





"Faring thee well now,Let your life proceed by its own design,Nothing to

tell now,Let the words be yours I'm done with mine" Robert Hunter



Nishant Bhatia

Chemical Engineering & Materials Science

UC Davis

Email:nbhatia@ucdavis.edu

PH:916 752 5325   FAX: 916 752 1031



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 17:26:15 -0400

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From:         MaryEllen Drewes <SunnyMED@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Aloe -Reply



Whoops!  Sorry about that!



I forgot to mention the step before whirling everything the blender.  You do

need to peel the aloe before pureeing it.  Thanks for catching that

ommission, hopefully before anybody used the recipe.



MaryEllen



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 22 Sep 1995 17:28:39 -0400

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From:         "George N. Allen" <gallen@CPCUG.ORG>

Subject:      Devil's Club



        I am seeking something to eradicate or at least diminish a sugar

craving. A friend has recommended Devil's Club -- oplopanax horridus.



        However, I don't find anything about it in the couple of books I

have.  Does anyone know what it does?



        Thanks.



        George Allen

        gallen@cpcug.org



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 01:23:50 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: Devil's Club

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <Pine.SUN.3.91.950922172430.16083A-100000@cpcug.org> on 9/22/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: I am seeking something to eradicate or at least diminish a sugar

: craving. A friend has recommended Devil's Club -- oplopanax horridus.



Sweet cravings result from improper lifestyle. Why not eat regular, warm

meals, no desserts or fruit, no coffee, and get plenty of rest for a week,

rather than seek an herbal solution?



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 15:45:43 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Herbs in walkway



>I'd like to use herbs as a pathway between our gardens(HERB GARDENS

>of course). What  would be a sweet smelling hardy herb? I gather

>Thyme might suffice, but which thyme? Carawy Thyme is very pleasent

>but would it handle the everyday traffic?

very few take constant traffic. Chamomile might be best or put groundcovers

between pavers. caraway Thyme looks abit thin on the ground usually. Any

other matting thyme would be best. Keep them well drained.





Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 15:45:16 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Intro and question re: Aloe



>I have a few questions I thought someone might be able to help me with.

>They concern the aloe plant. (Sorry I don't have the latin name here at

>my work place.)  The first (two part) question I have is:  Does anyone

>know how to store the extracted juice/jelly from the plant?

Lasts about a week in the refrigerator. use glass jar

>Additionally, how long  will extracted juice/jelly last?

>My second question is in regards to propagation.  I've noticed that

>my aloe plant (currently about 2.5 feet  tall) is growing babies at it's base.

>Can I safely just dig them up and stick them in moist soil in another pot?

You probably have Indian Aloe with orange flowers. Put babies in own pot in

spring. splitting at cold times of yaer not as successful.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 16:52:07 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Australian Herbs



>Andrew,

>

>   Don't know if you got the info on the Austrailian herbs, but I use one

>called Melaleuca in the form of an oil.  It's in my cleaning products,

>personal products, pharmaceuticals.  It's relatively inexpensive to buy these

>products direct from the company at wholesale too.

>

>Laura

See also this new list on oz herbs :

ausplants@iinet.com.au

MBTFG



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 16:53:03 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant



>I am very new to this list - just discovered it a few hours ago.  I used

>to be a an avid herbalist, that was when I had the space and the light.  Now

>I am reduced to one pot of strawberry mint and a parsley.  I am interested

>though in finding out about a herb that works as an appetite suppressant.

>I was told by someone to put a couple of slices of eggplant in say one

>litre of water and conmsume that throughout the day.  I havent gotten

>around to it mainly because I'd rather have something in a tisane than

>plain water.  Any suggestions?  Jasmine



Try Fennel flowers and seeds.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 08:03:04 EDT

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From:         Rene Burrough <100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Re: Tumors in the liver(carcinoid)



Bob Scott:

There's a Dr Yin or Dr Jin who practices in Ithaca, NY. And was described as

an herbalist, I believe. I saw her name on this list or the NatMed forum of

CompuServe & only paid attention because I  graduated from Ithaca a hundred

years ago.



Maybe this will twitch someone else's memory for the proper name & address.



Rene Burrough



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 10:10:55 +0900

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From:         Darryl McGrath <danmac@GOL.COM>

Subject:      Comfrey: Russian or not?



Could anyone tell me if there is any significant difference between comfrey

and Russian comfrey in terms of medicinal and culinary uses?



TIA

Darryl



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:53:42 -0400

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From:         Lesley Gibbs <GIBBS@MIDD.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>

Subject:      mushroom: Grafola Frendosa



Hello,

I'm looking for information regarding the use of the mushroom,

Grafola Frendosa in the treatment of tumors.  If anyone has

such information, I would be most grateful to receive it.

Thanks, Lesley



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 22:30:49 +0000

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Comments:     Authenticated sender is <mpinkney@saturn.execulink.com>

From:         Mary Pinkney <Mary.Lee.Pinkney@SATURN.EXECULINK.COM>

Subject:      Re: Herb Catalogues?



> >>Can someone please refer me to any companies that put out catalogues for

> >>herbs?  Thanks....

>

Richters Herb Catalogue 1995

Goodwood, Ontario

L0C 1A0    Canada

Phone: 1-905-640-6677

E-Mail Address:  orderdesk@richters.com

2nd E-Mail Address:   info@richters.com  (For info on doing business

with Richters)





--Richters has a wonderful and most informative herb catalogue!  For

two years in a row I have ordered plants by phone and they have

arrived by courier to my door in perfect condition!!!  They send

plants worldwide!!!   Early last spring my husband and I drove to

their location and got to walk around their large greenhouse and I

purchased about 20 more herb plants.  Richters is great!!!    I also

believe that they deliver to Australia and New Zealand.  Great

company!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 05:02:59 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: mushroom: Grafola Frendosa

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <950923215342.2c442@midd.middlebury.edu> on 9/23/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: Hello,

: I'm looking for information regarding the use of the mushroom,

: Grafola Frendosa in the treatment of tumors.  If anyone has

: such information, I would be most grateful to receive it.

: Thanks, Lesley



I believe that would be Grifola.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 02:33:24 -0400

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From:         "Dr. Sussman" <aa062@INFO.LONDON.ON.CA>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds

In-Reply-To:  <968032255.43804663@pop.com>



I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

. Many thanks -SS



Web site:-   http://info.london.on.ca/~aa062/Profile.html

Dr. Sam Sussman,                         Dr. Sam Sussman,



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 09:47:38 -0400

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From:         "T. L. Rutter" <EnigmaServ@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds



Fennel seeds are excellent when used in Spaghettie Sauces. It gives it that

distinctive flavor. My last girlfriend was married to a chef and he showed

her how to make spaghettie sauce, professionally. And in it, he put Fennel

Seeds, just a little bit will do.





T. L. Rutter



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:06:01 -0400

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From:         Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM>

Subject:      dandruff



A plea for help as this is driving me nuts:

I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

of/remedy dandruff.

i've tried using the commercial products (Selsun blue, Head and Shoulders,

Scalpicin, even the Neutrogena products) and not only do they not work that

well, but they seem to damage my hair.  It's down past the middle of my back

now,,, with a strong temdency for split ends as I abused it quite severely a

couple of years ago.

My head starts to itch and flake the second day after I wash it (if I wash it

at night, which i usually do,, other wise it's the next day).  It's really

really annoying (it's doing it right now),, and I also don't much care for

having snow all over my shoulders. <smile>

So, in conclusion, any help will be appreciated.  I have heard of something

that will help.. like wetting your hair and heating up 4 tablespoons of Olive

oil and spreading that on your scalp,. or making a tea of Basil and rinsing

your hair with that (at least, i think it was basil,,,,,,)

Thank you



Sil



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 14:49:33 -0400

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From:         "Sherwood S. Tucker" <DDS1@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: dandruff



I had tried all products as you have apparently done.  I found that the only

thing so far that has consistently woirked day in and day out is , beliebe it

or not, AMWAY dandruff shampoo and conditioner.  I have used it for over 10

years and it keeps the stuff down.  I use it every morning in the shower.

 Give it a try.



dds1



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 17:29:34 -0400

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From:         Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Bergamot



Hello!  A friend of mine has Bergamot growing in her yard and would like to

know if when making tea do you use leaves and or flowers?  What could she add

to the tea?

Does anyone know what herbs to use for Asthma?

Thank-you for all the information I have recieved or will recieve!!!!!!!!

Barb



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 17:43:32 -0400

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From:         JASMINE <m_irons@ALCOR.CONCORDIA.CA>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.3.88.9509240212.A13934-0100000@info.london.on.ca>



On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, Dr. Sussman wrote:



> I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

> . Many thanks --------->





I posted an enquiry as to what herb could be used as an appetite

suppressant. Chewing on fennel seeds was suggested.  I haven't yet tried it

because the thought of chewing on these seeds do not exactly whet my

appetite.



If anyone else has any other ideas I would be greatful.



Thanks and take care.

Jasmine



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:40:42 -0400

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From:         Cunegonde@AOL.COM

Subject:      Re: Dandruff



The best dandruff control I've found is clipping my fingernails really short.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 23 Sep 1995 18:35:17 -0400

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From:         Conrad Richter <conrad@RICHTERS.COM>

Organization: Richters Herbs

Subject:      Bergamot



Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM> writes:



> Hello!  A friend of mine has Bergamot growing in her yard and would like to

> know if when making tea do you use leaves and or flowers?  What could she add

> to the tea?



Both the leaves and flowers can be used.  The flowers, of course, add

nice colour.  Some say that the flowers have a more delicate flavour,

and of the various varieties, the red bergamot is the creme-de-la-creme.



Conrad Richter



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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:13:54 -0400

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From:         "Sage McKenzie." <TXSage@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Dandruff



I am almost reluctant to admit this, but in the interest of being helpful, I

will. I use Hartz Mountain Dog Shampoo, active ingredient coal tar (orange

bottle). One can buy coal tar shampoos, but they cost about three times as

much as the Hartz Mountain. The main problem with a coal tar shampoo is that

my hair smells like a freshly paved road for a day or two.



Sage

TXSage@aol.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:33:13 -0500

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From:         Ari Solovyova <asolovyo@INDIANA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Dandruff

In-Reply-To:  <950924211352_28193353@emout04.mail.aol.com>



Don't use any commercial shampoo. Use castile soap or egg (rub it in your

scalp, leave there for an hour, covered with a bag or a towel, then rinse

with vinegar water). Here are three good old remedies for dandruff (rub

in your scalp, and leave there for at least 1 hour): grated onions or

garlic; burdock root decoction; rosemary oil.



Ari Solovyova



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Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:07:54 -0500

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Subject:      cleansing herb before surgery



Hello, Since subscribing I have enjoyed every reading.  My Mother is having her other hip replacement surgery at the end of October.  What herbal tea could she be sipping prior to surgery for cleansing her system.  Please advise and thank you very much



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:53:23 +0500

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From:         "Charles L. Rudd" <clr@DUNYO.TASHKENT.SU>

Organization: Dunyo

Subject:      Hippophae rhamnoides - Oil Separation Technology

Comments: cc: Phytopharmacognosy@mailbase.ac.uk



25 Sep 95 ref 5092501



Subject: Hippophae rhamnoides - Oil Separation Technology



This question is primarily for John Wilkinson  but  maybe  other

members of  the  list   can help find references or  sources  of

information.



Hippophae  rhamnoides  (Seabuckthorn)  oil  is available   as  a

commercial product mainly from China and  Russia. The technology

of separation is quite  different  in China  and Russia and  the

purity, quality and chemical compositions are different.



The   Russian  method    used  and  described  in   the  Russian

Pharmacopea involves the use of a carrier oil such as  olive  or

sunflower oil at temperatures below 60 C to separate the H.  oil

from the fruit pulp or crushed seeds. As  as result the finished

product is  typically  a mixture of  two  oils  and  quality  is

difficult  to control.  There  is   as well  opportunities   for

adulteration since  dilution   of  the  rich H. oil with cheaper

carrier oils has strong profit motives.



The Chinese method is not well documented  in western liturature

but we have information that oil is separated from  the pulp and

seed using  cold  extraction centrifuge methods. The  Chinese H.

oil quality, as seen by  our  laboratories,  is higher than  the

Russian  H. oil.   No  carrier oils  have  been detected  in the

samples we have seen and the carotene, Vitamin C,  E  and  Fatty

Acid contents are higher then samples we have  seen from Russian

suppliers.



I would like to find more information about  Chinese  separation

methods   and  any    other  relative   quality   and  technical

characteristics  which   could    help   objectively    evaluate

differences in Russian and Chinese H. oils and determine valid

production cost differences.



Regards,



---

Charles L. Rudd <clr@dunyo.tashkent.su>

Interconcepts Incorporated (USA)  Fax: 7 3712 56-6180

Central Asian Research Center     Tel: 7 3712 39-1302, 39-1453

Ul. Shpilkova 5 Tashkent 700031 Uzbekistan



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sun, 24 Sep 1995 17:13:48 EDT

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From:         MJY0000 <MJY0@ECC.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: Dandruff

In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of SUN 24 SEP 1995 18:00:39 EDT



According to the book, Natural Prescriptions by Robert M. Giller,

it is suggested to follow a yeast-free diet for about a month to see

if it reduces your dandruff symptoms.

 

This means giving up many popular foods, which include:



  - All sugars and sweets

  - All foods and beverages that contain yeast, such as bread and

    other baked goods, cheese, vinegar, soy sauce, fermented

    condiments such as olives and pickles, and all wines and

    alcoholic drinks.



While this may help - it won't happen overnight.  It may take about

a month to see results.  In the meantime, use an antidandruff

shampoo with zinc pyrithione (ZPT) as the active ingredient.





Mike Yurche



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:09:21 -0400

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From:         Marin Perusek <mperusek@FORD.COM>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds



On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, Dr. Sussman wrote:



> I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

> . Many thanks --------->





Chewing on fennel seeds is also a very good way to relieve gas.





Marin

mperusek@ford.com



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From:         ANDREW STRASFOGEL <astrasfo@WO0033WP.WO.BLM.GOV>

Subject:      Re: dandruff - Reply



No problem with this approach.  If the product works, why shouldn't people

pay for it?   Please note that Laura's message came in response to a query,

and was not an unsolicited pitch to sell something.



>>> Laura Formholtz <Cupid999@AOL.COM> 09/24 1:36 pm >>>

If I told you that I actually sell a product that helps my dandruff problem,

would we have anything to talk about?  Lots of times people won't investigate

something if the word "sell" is attached, but everything people use was

sold by somebody right?  If you'd like to have some info about the Natural-based

shampoo I use and "SELL", drop me a line.

Glad to help where I can.



Laura



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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:53:36 -0400

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From:         Dave Campano <davecam@BBSONE.COM>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery



Hello, I have done research on an amino acid called L-Glutamine. It is used

by many doctors in TPN solutions to speed up the healing process after

surgery. I take it in a free form(Twin Lab)capsule and get many benefits

from it. Go to your local bookstore or health food store and get all the

info you can on this! Dr. Colgan has wrote about this amino in "Muscular

Developement". Also try to read "Muscle Media 2000" and try to get the back

issues of these two important magazines for further info about Glutamine!

Good Luck: Dave Campano(davecam@bbsone.com)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Karl Hancock <karlhank@XMISSION.COM>

Subject:      Masai Diet



This is from National Geographic, October 1995, Geographica section.



Masai Diet Wards Off Heart Disease

Milk and meat meals of the Masai of Kenya and Tanzania would terrify an American fearing cholesterol and heart disease.

Yet Masai cholesterol levels are one-third lower than the U.S. average, and heart disease is almost unknown.  New research

offers a clue: Masai also eat a soup laced with a bitter bark and roots that contain cholesterol-lowering substances called

saponins.

"Masai don't worry about cholesterol; it's a nonissue to them.  And they love fat," says Timothy Johns of McGill University in

Montreal.  Supporting his findings, studies show that urban Masai without access to the bitter plants do develop heart disease.



--------

A couple of questions:



Does anyone out there know anything about the Masai diet?  Is it high in fat and other bad things?

What is the plant that provides this bitter bark and roots?

What are saponins and what other plant material contains them?





Karl

Nature's Source



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:38:05 PDT

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From:         J Wamil <JCWAMIL@SCIENCE.WATSTAR.UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.3.88.9509240212.A13934-0100000@info.london.on.ca>



On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, Dr. Sussman wrote:



>

I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

> . Many thanks -SS



Hello there.  One message said that fennel seeds and flowers could be

used as appetite suppressant.  Hope this helped.



------------------------------------------------------------------------------

J Wamil



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From:         John LoConte <JLoconte@PACTIDE.NOAA.GOV>

Subject:      Re: fennel seeds



     I've got fennel growing in my yard, and was wondering at what point is

     it best to harvest the seeds which are just beginning to form. thanks.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:38:50 +0200

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From:         Lise Andersen <lise@MEDCHEM.DFH.DK>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery



>Hello, Since subscribing I have enjoyed every reading.  My Mother is having

>her other hip replacement surgery at the end of October.  What herbal tea

>could she be sipping prior to surgery for cleansing her system.  Please advise

>and thank you very much



I think that it will not be adviceabel to drink herbal the berfore surgery

- you may not dirnk or eat 24 h before.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:24:17 -0500

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From:         "Fran E. Rich" <frich@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Dandruff

In-Reply-To:  <24SEP95.18608463.0015.MUSIC@ECC>



Well, personally, I think I'd rather have dandruff!  :-)



On Sun, 24 Sep 1995, MJY0000 wrote:



> According to the book, Natural Prescriptions by Robert M. Giller,

> it is suggested to follow a yeast-free diet for about a month to see

> if it reduces your dandruff symptoms.

>

> This means giving up many popular foods, which include:

>

>   - All sugars and sweets

>   - All foods and beverages that contain yeast, such as bread and

>     other baked goods, cheese, vinegar, soy sauce, fermented

>     condiments such as olives and pickles, and all wines and

>     alcoholic drinks.

>

> While this may help - it won't happen overnight.  It may take about

> a month to see results.  In the meantime, use an antidandruff

> shampoo with zinc pyrithione (ZPT) as the active ingredient.

>

>

> Mike Yurche

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:12:53 -0700

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From:         Paul Bergner <bergner@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Re: Masai Diet

In-Reply-To:  <Chameleon.4.00.950925082329.karlhank@karl> from "Karl Hancock"

              at Sep 25, 95 08:14:21 am



>

> This is from National Geographic, October 1995, Geographica section.

>

> Masai Diet Wards Off Heart Disease

> Milk and meat meals of the Masai of Kenya and Tanzania would terrify an American fearing cholesterol and heart disease.

> Yet Masai cholesterol levels are one-third lower than the U.S. average, and heart disease is almost unknown.  New research

> offers a clue: Masai also eat a soup laced with a bitter bark and roots that contain cholesterol-lowering substances called

> saponins.

> "Masai don't worry about cholesterol; it's a nonissue to them.  And they love fat," says Timothy Johns of McGill University in

> Montreal.  Supporting his findings, studies show that urban Masai without access to the bitter plants do develop heart disease.

>

> --------

> A couple of questions:

>

> Does anyone out there know anything about the Masai diet?  Is it high in fat and other bad things?

> What is the plant that provides this bitter bark and roots?

> What are saponins and what other plant material contains them?

>

>

> Karl

> Nature's Source

>



Have you ever seen pictures of the Masai. Meat, fat, and bitter herbs

notwithstanding, there is no obesity there, probably because there is a

tremendous amoutn of physical activity. The photos I have (taken in a

Masai village last month, show the people looking hungry if anything. and

urban Masai may be missing the activity and the spare diet as much as the

bitter herbs. The closest thing American couch potatoes will find for a

panacea for heart disease is garlic, which reduces atherosclerosis by

three different mechanisms. Even better than that, though, would be to

fast regularly (even if you eat meat at other times) and stay in the same

kind of physical shape the Masai do.



Paul Bergner

Editor

Medical Herbalism



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         "Laird, Becky L." <blh3@CIDDVD1.EM.CDC.GOV>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery



>Hello, Since subscribing I have enjoyed every reading.  My Mother is having

>her other hip replacement surgery at the end of October.  What herbal tea

>could she be sipping prior to surgery for cleansing her system.  Please

advise

>and thank you very much





You can use burdock root tea as a blood cleanser, milk thistle to cleanse the

liver, Psyllium husks to cleanse the colon both before and after the surgery.

Afterwards will help her shead the aniesthia. Also she might need some

acidophilus afterwards to help with colon flora since they usually give

antibiotic after that kind of surgery. There is a wonderful product I hae

used that will do all this and more in 1 pill if you would rather it is

called super cleanse made by natures secret. I think you can get it at any of

the places you get herbs and health foods. Hope this helps and very good luck

to your mother.



                         Becky L.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Bob Carter <bcarter@AWINC.COM>

Subject:      Re: dandruff

In-Reply-To:  <950924120600_27828436@emout05.mail.aol.com>



Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM> wrote:



> I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

> of/remedy dandruff.



> Sil



Rosemary is supposed to be good.  I use a Rosemary shampoo and rinse that seems

to help me.  As well, Kombucha tea, both taken internally and put on your scalp

is supposed to help alleviate dandruff.



Good luck, I hope you find relief soon!



Bob



   ____________________

  |                    |

  |     Bob Carter     |

  |  bcarter@awinc.com |

  |____________________|



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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:35:56 -0400

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From:         "Maxina A. Gohlke" <bj979@YFN.YSU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: dandruff



>I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

>of/remedy dandruff.



Continue to use a coal tar based shampoo like selsun blue, but do not use

any conditioner. Instead, rinse with a solution of 5 parts water to 1 part

vinegar to restore the hair's original PH.

Internally take lecithin, fish oil, evening of primrose oil and vitamins

A & E.

The supplements should begin to show results after a week of use. You

can then switch to a mild shampoo.

Continue the vinegar use.



Maxina







--



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Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:55:54 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Buying and selling



It is disturbing to me the knee jerk reaction of some when discussing

merchandising products. Recently a posting to this list was full of expletives.

and vile feeling toward someone who offered a product to help another netter.

There is a general fear of being percieved as a money monger as a result.

However, I'm sure it didn't start there. There is a feeling perpetuated

by news media and some in others who would vilify anyone wanting to make

money for whatever reason. WHY? What is the matter with wanting to make money

and maybe even in the process aid someone else? What's the matter with

waNTING TO make money? Is there anyone who couldn't use some more? The world

revolves around money and lack of it can bring many disadvantages.

I have children I would like to recieve higher education. It costs money.

I have a home which is in need of repair. It costs money. I see nothing

inherently wrong with wanting and needing money. Why should someone by

vilified for having it either. If a person wants to improve their situation,

and does something about it. What's so terrible about that person.

Most of the postings on this list that have some reference to selling are

almost always someone trying to both help others nd MAKE A LITTLE MONEY in

the process. I can't see anything terrible in that either and I applaud them

for trying.

If respect to MLM or network marketing, most folks involved in these

enterprises want to take every body with them as they "get rich". What's so

wrong with that? They also, for the most part, really believe they are

helping people in the process. Isn't that what we wish all marketing really

was?

I don't want this list to become a free-for-all advertisement list but

if a person responds to an asked for request, I see nothing wrong with

someone saying something about a product with which they are familiar.

After all, how can we know about that which is available without advertising?

I say, go ahead and provide information. I am capable of deciding if it's

something I need or not. But at the saME  time, be courteous and brief.

Long postings, especially when not requested are irritating.

There will always be some who have more or less in the way of money. That

doesn't make anyone worse.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:14:05 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Devil's Club



I am familiar with Devil's Club. It grows wild everywhere around this part

of Alaska. The natives use it as a spring cleansing tonic and it is used in

many other remedies. It appears to be tonic and alterative (blood cleansing)

It is also hypoglycemic. It reduces blood sugar. I doubt if this would

diminish sugar craving. Sugar craving is a symptom of other aliments and

until the problem is identified and dealt with nothing will cure sugar

craving. The problem could be yeast infection or perhaps low blood sugar.

I'm sure there are other possibilities. A friend of mine gave me something

sold through Sunrider that is supposed to kill chocolate craving but that

can mask a real problem such as magnesium deficiency. It's important to

find the problem and deal with it not just mask a symptom.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:24:31 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds



I have used fennel in teas for colds with cough.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         "Laird, Becky L." <blh3@CIDDVD1.EM.CDC.GOV>

Subject:      Re: Fennel seeds



I know of its use to improve digestion and soothes the stomach.

                                                  Becky L.

-------------------------------------------------------------

I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

. Many thanks -SS





From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:46:34 -0400

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From:         Susan Oneppo <LovesToken@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Dandruff



I have been lurking but decided to throw 2 cents in here.

I am a Dog Groomer and I always advise my clients not to use human shampoo on

their pets because the pH is different.  I would give you the same advice.



If I was to use a pet shampoo on myself, I would go for the one of the all

natural Melaluca (?) shampoos.



Sue



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         MARIA A TURCO <TURCOMAR@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU>

Subject:      SUGAR CRAVING



 Hi - this is in response to the posting on devil's club - have you

tried cromium picolinate for the sugar cravings?



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:20:15 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Australian Herbs



There's an article on Melaleuca in the Vegetarian times this month. It seems

that is is documented to be sntiseptic and has some healing properties. THe

claims of antifungus are not  fully substantiated according to the article.

It also stated that most cosmetics whic include melaleuca contain less than

10% and would not be therapeutic. It seems that it must contain greater than

10% melaleuca oil to be effective.  I have used it in creams to prevent

spoiling and molding.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Enid Hart Boasberg <CONMAIL17@MLN.LIB.MA.US>

Subject:      ? echinacea tea



Does drinking echinacea tea confer any health benefits?  I have been told

that if you are taking echinacea for a health problem that you shouldn't

take it for longer than 2 weeks.  What about tea?  Can you drink it as

often as you want?  Is it's action antibiotic or antiviral?



 TIA,



 -Enid    eboasberg@mln.lib.ma.us



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Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 06:48:17 -0500

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From:         "R.M.K." <iss@RCI.RIPCO.COM>

Subject:      Re: fennel



To: HERB@trearnpc.EGE.EDU.TR

Subject: Re: fennel



"Dr. Sussman" <aa062@INFO.LONDON.ON.CA>  wrote:

|

|I remember a posting about fennel seed. Can anyone tell me about its uses

|. Many thanks -SS

|



Fennel is the International Herb Association's choice as the 1995 plant

of the year.  There is a decent 8-page article in 1995-#4 issue Herb

Companion on varieties/cultivation of fennel.  It is a prime plant to

cultivate if you are interested in attracting butterflies to your

garden.



trivia: King Edward of England & his household were reported to have

consumed 8 pounds of fennel seed every month..!!.



General uses of fennel <from 'Herbage' database>:





FENNEL (Foeniculum vulgare)





HAS BEEN USED TO TREAT

(1) abdominal cramps. (2) colic: Severe abdominal pain caused by

spasm, obstruction, or distention of any of the hollow viscera, such

as the intestines. Often a condition of early infancy, colic is marked

by chronic irritability and crying.(3) gas: Flatulence.(4) intestinal

ailments. (5) kidney ailments. (6) liver ailments. (7) stomach

ailments.



REPORTED ACTIONS

(1) carminative: Induces the expulsion of gas from the stomach and

intestines.(2) diuretic: Tends to increase the discharge of urine.(3)

hallucinogen: Induces hallucination.(4) intestinal aid. (5) stomachic:

Strengthens or stimulates the stomach.



NATIVE RANGE

Mediterranean



Generally used to flavor licorice powder. Helps kill appetite when

dieting. 5-20 drops of Fennel oil can cause epileptic-like convulsions

and hallucinations. Constituents in the oil are toxic to liver and

harsh to kidneys. Normal amounts as used in flavoring are apparently

safe.



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From:         Laura Formholtz <Cupid999@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Australian Herbs



Very interesting article on Melaleuca.  My grandfather used it on his fungus,

as did my aunt, with no results, so I think it's interesting that they

haven't proven it for fungus yet.



Even though I do purchase Melaleuca products, I'm sure some of them won't

work for everyone nor will everybody even like them, but for the most part, I

enjoy the laundry detergent, dish soap, bath gels, vitamins, antioxidants,

tooth polish, access bars, fiber bars, and breath spray.



Laura



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:37:45 -0400

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         "Sherwood S. Tucker" <DDS1@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Masai Diet



In a message dated 95-09-25 11:33:20 EDT, you write:



>

>Does anyone out there know anything about the Masai diet?  Is it high in fat

>and other bad things?

>What is the plant that provides this bitter bark and roots?

>What are saponins and what other plant material contains them?

>

>

>Karl

>Nature's Source



And don't forget that Masai are WARRIORS.  They probaly run the equivakent of

a marathon every day for the fun of it.  They burn the fat and cholesterol

for energy and it doesn't get stored.



dds1



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:52:56 -0400

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From:         J B Segelken <jbs11@CORNELL.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Tumors in the liver (carinoid)



I just started going to Dr. Jin Feng in Ithaca (NY), who I think is who

Rene is referencing. So far it appears the herbs and accupuncture are

helping my sinus problem.



Her phone is 607-272-4263.



Good luck . . .



Jane



>Bob Scott:

>There's a Dr Yin or Dr Jin who practices in Ithaca, NY. And was described as

>an herbalist, I believe. I saw her name on this list or the NatMed forum of

>CompuServe & only paid attention because I  graduated from Ithaca a hundred

>years ago.

>

>Maybe this will twitch someone else's memory for the proper name & address.

>

>Rene Burrough

>

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:52:08 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: dandruff



Some native Americans used to rub the berries of Devil's club or Doe fat

on their scalps to produce shiny healthy hair and wscalp. I havn't tried it

but I know some Haida women who swear by it. They do have very shiny and

healthy looking hair.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:10:29 PDT

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         J Wamil <JCWAMIL@SCIENCE.WATSTAR.UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject:      Re: dandruff

In-Reply-To:  <950924120600_27828436@emout05.mail.aol.com>



Hey there.  Rosemary is a good cure for dandruff.  You can use an

infusion as a hair rinse, or macerate 15g of the herb in 250mL ordinary

shampoo for about two weeks before using.  Add stinging nettle to the

rinse as a circulatory stimulant and cleansing tonic.



Hope this helps.



Jules



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 09:10:41 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Echinacea



For the question on Echinacea. Eit is Alterative (IE. Blood Cleansing) and

Antiseptic. It is used largely for blood impurities both internally and

externally. I use it when colds go to a secondary infection. It is said to

boost the immune system which would go along with its being Alterative.

There are disputes as to whether or not consistent use of the herb causes

it to become less effective. My own thoughts on this are that as long as the

body needs its properties, it will use them. As the body gains strength it

uses it less. I have never prescribed or used it for long periods. It has

never seemed necessary. I don't believe in ceaseless medication. When the

need is gone I don't continue its use. The only things I take on a regular

basis are nutrients such as vitamins and minerals and boiflavonoids.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:59:10 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery



A fast is a wonderful way to cleanse the body. By this I mean an incomplete

fast using liquid. A complete fast would be nothing at all. There are

several suggested fasts in books I have read. I used an apple juice fast

once. For 5 days I drank only fresh extracted apple juice. One could use

one of many juicers such as Acme or Omega which extract the pulp. I drank

every 1/2 hour about 1-2 cups apple juice. It was reletaively painless.

Drinking something like spirulina once or twice a day will help nourish

cells.  There are other fasts out there that may do well for this.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Tue, 26 Sep 1995 19:00:34 -0400

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From:         "F. Alex Hamill.User." <Leaflight@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: ? echinacea tea



For anyone taking herbal preparations, it is necessary to remember that any

beneficial effects are chemical (except for the comfort and relaxation

offered by using beautiful plants rather than little embossed pills which

cost 2.00 a piece!), and when using chemicals it is ALWAYS better to use

caution.  All of our currently prescribed medicines have, at least as a

component, a compound which is or used to be plant-derived, with the sole

exception of Lithium.  74% still use the real thing, at least in part of

preparation or synthesis.  So, whatever reservations one has about taking

those 'nasty synthetic drugs', would be wisely transferred to those 'lovely

naturals'.

Just as an example, Comfrey (Symphytum) and hybrids is rich in hepatotoxic

pyrrolizidine alkaloids,  yet it is still consumed in salads, teas, and

herbal preps.  The highest levels occur in the roots, but these capsules of

root are still available and widely purchased as digestive aids, et al.

 Ridker et al in Gastroenterology (1985;88:1050-4) reported a case of hepatic

venocclusive disease associated with the consumption of comfrey, and Germany

has banned its sale.  Germander, Jin Bu Huan, thread-leafed groundsel,

skullcap, coltsfoot, heliotrope, all are high on the list of ones to look out

for, as there is published evidense in major medical journals of toxicity.

 Even old friends like rosemary, which we use in sauces, mint, nutmeg, and

cloves can be toxic after long term use.  (For a good article, see Annals of

Internal Medicine, 15 July, 1992  Vol 117, Number 2, "The Myth of Beneficent

Nature: The Risks of Herbal Preparations".)



As for Echinacea, I have never read anything that would hint at toxicity, but

that doesn't mean that it's not!  I myself take a capsule of the ground root

every day, and have for several years, without any obvious adverse reactions.

 I'm coming to learn that the only totally benign and problem-free product is

ground pepper corns!!!! It's sad to me, I'd love to replace much of western

contemporary medicine with greenery, but it's just as complicated, if not

more.



Good luck!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:15:58 -0400

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From:         "Sherwood S. Tucker" <DDS1@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery



In a message dated 95-09-25 12:57:27 EDT, you write:



>Subj:  Re: cleansing herb before surgery

>Date:  95-09-25 12:57:27 EDT

>From:  lise@MEDCHEM.DFH.DK (Lise Andersen)

>Sender:        HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

>Reply-to:      HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR (Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion

>list)

>To:    HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR (Multiple recipients of list HERB)

>

>>Hello, Since subscribing I have enjoyed every reading.  My Mother is having

>>her other hip replacement surgery at the end of October.  What herbal tea

>>could she be sipping prior to surgery for cleansing her system.  Please

>advise

>>and thank you very much

>

>I think that it will not be adviceabel to drink herbal the berfore surgery

>- you may not dirnk or eat 24 h before.

>

>



Not so... If one is to have Genersal Anesthesia in a hospital then the order

is NPO (nothing by mouth ) after midnight. Some surgery is scheduled for 7am

so this would be 7 hours minimum and i believe the anesthesiologists like

more.  Ambulatory anesthesia is done in a short saty unit or dental office.

In this situation they Oral surgeon likes nothing to eat or drink for 6-8

hours before.



dds1



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:49:03 -0600

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From:         "Diane E. Emery" <emery@BCM.TMC.EDU>

Subject:      sleeping aids needed



Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post so I hope

this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal medicine and I

find it fascinating. My question for now is about my fiance. He has been

having trouble sleeping the last couple months, he says he is woken up

frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to sleep for hours, only to be

woken up again by another dream. Do any of you have any herbal therapies he

could try? I have a limited supply of herbs right now but if there are some

fairly common ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time

putting something together. Thanks you for your help!



Diane

emery@bcm.tmc.edu



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:06:39 EDT

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From:         Mother of Shiva <LAJONEZ1@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: cleansing herb before surgery

In-Reply-To:  Message of Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:07:54 -0500 from

              <HOWSER@UTARLG.UTA.EDU>



Let's see if this mail gets through. <sigh.>  Barbara:  you might want

your mother to drink some Gingko Biloba tea before hip replacement

surgery.  I don't know about artificial body parts, but Gingko helps the

body to accept organ transplants.  It might help to keep her body from

trying to 'reject' the hip as a foreign object.  Just a thought.



lesley ann jones



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:25:04 -0100

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From:         Henriette Kress <HeK@HETTA.PP.FI>

Subject:      Re: herbal dangers, symphytum and stuff

Comments: To: Leaflight@aol.com



>For anyone taking herbal preparations, it is necessary to remember that any

>beneficial effects are chemical (except for the comfort and relaxation



Have a look at the medicinal herbfaq, found eg. my WWW page. There is an entry

on general safety and dangers of herbs, and an entry on carcinogenity of

Symphytum (comfrey), pulled from this list 2 weeks ago.

 

>As for Echinacea, I have never read anything that would hint at toxicity, but

>that doesn't mean that it's not!  I myself take a capsule of the ground root

>every day, and have for several years, without any obvious adverse reactions.



Oh well. You should not take any herbal (read anything) for more than 3 weeks

in a row unless needed. Take a break on the Echinacea - why do you eat it anyway?



> I'm coming to learn that the only totally benign and problem-free product is

>ground pepper corns!



What makes you think they are totally benign and problem-free?

(Strange thought - picking pepper as a benign product... ever had some in your

eyes?)



Henriette

--

Henriette Kress        HeK@hetta.pp.fi

          Helsinki, Finland.

    http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:13:00 EST

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         "Laird, Becky L." <blh3@CIDDVD1.EM.CDC.GOV>

Subject:      sleeping aids needed



>>>Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post so I hope

this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal medicine and I

find it fascinating. My question for now is about my fiance. He has been

having trouble sleeping the last couple months, he says he is woken up

frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to sleep for hours, only to be

woken up again by another dream. Do any of you have any herbal therapies he

could try? I have a limited supply of herbs right now but if there are some

fairly common ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time

putting something together. Thanks you for your help!



Diane

emery@bcm.tmc.edu



   ********



Hi,  the ones I know of are valerian, skullcap, kava kava and chamomile taken

as a tea or tincture.



                                   Becky L.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:49:27 -0700

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From:         Jack van Luik <jackv@PACIFIER.COM>

Subject:      Juicers

In-Reply-To:  <01HVQ5P0JPFSHSJXWF@ua.acad1.alaska.edu>



On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Anita F Hales wrote:

> one of many juicers such as Acme or Omega which extract the pulp. I drank



We recently bought one that works well, but discards the pulp (carrots)

for around $80-90.  Would like to keep the pulp with the juice.



Has anybody experimented with mixing the pulp (or some) back with the juice?



Looked at the ads for the Vita-Mix for over $400, but the pulp isn't that

dear to me.



Jack vL



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 02:49:50 EDT

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From:         Rene Burrough <100735.543@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      Re: Comfrey: Russian or not?



Darryl McGrath:



I have always regarded regular comfrey as the medical plant & Russian comfrey

as the compost maker & fodder plant. As medical herbalism is my avocation and

not vocation, I call only repeat what I have learned in courses and what my

herbals say. Symphytum officinale is the medical herb.



Russian comfrey is high in potash & the leaves can be used in potato trenches

before planting the chitted tubers; as a mulch for tomatoes -- a high potash

feeder -- especially, or made into a liquid feed by soaking the comfrey leaves

in a vat of water for a longish period.  The smell is a little strong, but it

a good natural fertilizer.



As for eating comfrey, there are those who would question the wisdom of that.

It can certainly be prepared as spinach. But I wouldn't abuse the herb by

having a comfrey leaf only diet. I think any unbalanced diet in unhealthy.



Rene Burrough



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:36:13 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      1996 Herbalist Apprenticeship Program



Dancing the edge of netiquette yet again ...... If you are not interested in

this, just delete. This is more for information than an ad, we have many

more applicants than spaces already. Howie





*****************************



12th Annual 1996 Apprenticeship Program

Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc.



You Must Want To



*Commit yourself to work hard. You can not break

 picking appointments, and must reasonably plan to

 finish the Apprenticeship.



*Learn plant identification through keys and field

 characteristics.



*Learn our wildcrafting methods, including a high

 regard for the local ecosystems and the

 continuation of the stand.



*Find you own personal stands of medicinal and

 food plants.



Medicinal Herbs Covered in Depth



Achillea millefolium, Yarrow

Angelica genuflexa, Angelica

Arctostaphylos sp., Manzanita

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi, Kinnikinnik

Arnica mollis, Arnica

Artemisia douglasiana, Mugwort

Artemisia tridentata, Sagebrush

Berberis nervosa, Oregon Grape

Ceanothus sp., Ceanothus

Chimaphila umbellata, Pipsissewa

Hypericum perforatum and formosum, St. John's Wort

Ligusticum grayi, Oshala

Pedicularis groenlandica, Elephant's Head Betony

Pedicularis racemosa, Parrot's Beak Betony

Penstemon sp., Penstemon

Pyrola sp., Pyrola

Salix sp., Willow

Scutellaria galericulata, Skullcap

Valeriana sitchensis, Valerian

Verbascum thapsus, Mullein



     Apprentices will thoroughly explore many

aspects of these plants. We will  create useful herbal

preparations with them. These herbs were intentionally

selected to provide an accessible medicine chest and

an herbal basis for further learning. Harvesting and

processing this selection of roots, barks, leaves,

flowers, and seeds gives you a rounded view of

different plant harvesting techniques in a variety of

ecosystems. The program will cover the details of

hundreds many more medicinal, food, and poisonous

plants that we don't harvest.



    Upon completion of the Apprenticeship, you will

be able to identify, locate, harvest, process, and use a

plant you have never seen before.



 Topics Covered:



*Basic Botanical Terms



*Plant Identification Through Keys: Practice is the

 only way to master this skill.



*Plant Identification Through Field Characteristics:

 Certain plants are identifiable without a key by their

 unique markings.



*Family Identification: We will cover the major plant

 families of the Northwest. This is a very useful plant

 identifying skill.



*Plant Pressing: This will be an optional activity.



*Locating Stands of Herbs



*Ecosystem Identification



*Tending and Propagating Stands of Herbs



*Forest Ecology



*Wildcrafting: We will explore values and techniques

 for personal and commercial harvesting.



*Herb Quality



*Cleaning and Processing Herbs: This is an

 essential part of plant harvesting. We will use all of

 the plants collected. Apprentices will keep a

 complete selection of herbs.



*Traditional Uses



*Food and Spice Plants: This will include many a

 meal depending on student interest.



*Poisonous Plants: For safety, we will learn to

 identify poisonous look-alikes of useful plants.



*Herbal Preparations: We will discuss poultices,

 teas, tinctures, oils, salves, facial astringents, and

 more. We will make many herbal preparations in

 the field with fresh herbs. Apprentices keep a

 complete selection. The retail value of these

 preparations exceeds the tuition of the

 Apprenticeship.



*Threatened. Endangered, Rare, and Sensitive

 Plants and Ecosystems



What to Expect



     Class sizes are small, generally five apprentices

per field trip. Carpooling is encouraged and arranged.



Spring Term



Field Trips: This term consists of nine weekly one day

field trips in the Cascade Mountains. These focus on

identifying, locating, and tending stands of herbs. We

will harvest and process some medicinal herbs and

stop along the way to enjoy food and spices plants, but

the majority of the harvesting will occur in the summer

term. We will meet at New Frontier East, 24th and

Agate, and leave Eugene between 8 and 9 AM. We will

return at approximately 6 PM. Do not make

appointments for after the field trips as we may wish to

remain in the woods longer for hot springs, swimming,

changing flat tires, and other unforeseen exciting

experiences. Pack a good lunch. Bad weather will not

stop us from taking these trips. The term will finish with

a tenth trip, the spring overnight.



Lectures: In the spring term, we will arrange weekly

two hour lectures to discuss each picking trip in detail

and practice plant identification.



Summer Term



Overnight Trips: This term consists of four overnight

field trips, one approximately every two weeks. These

are similar to one day trips, but with a closer feeling for

the earth. We will go to some remote and powerful

places. We will use the botanical and ecological skills

learned in the spring term to locate and harvest

medicinal and food plants. We generally car camp.



Lectures: A series of six two hour lectures on herbal

preparations and medicinal uses will be scheduled

accordingly.



Instructor:



Howie Brounstein is the owner /operator of

Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc., and coordinator

of the Central Oregon Plant Show.  He has taught

botany, herbalism, and wildcrafting extensively over

the past decade. Active in locating rare, threatened,

and endangered plant stands and other conservation

efforts, he is currently participating in a rapid biological

inventory of a remote ecological reserve in Southern

Chile.



What Extra Equipment Will You Need?



Spring Term



*A Handbook of Northwestern Plants by Gilkey and

 Dennis, OSU Bookstores. This is sometimes

 available used. Please obtain this book early, as it

 becomes nearly impossible to find in March, and

 will require special ordering from local bookstores.



*Medicinal Plants of the Mountain West by Michael

 Moore, Museum of New Mexico Press.  Please be

 sure to buy the orange book on the mountain west,

 not his newer Medicinal Plants of the Pacific West,

 which is used in the summer term.



*A large 1"- 2" three ring binder for the many pages

 of printed material that will be handed out.



*A knife and some pruning shears for harvesting. I

 suggest  ratchet - type pruning shears for chopping

 roots; they prevent blisters.



*A hand-lens (loope) or magnifying lens for plant

 identification.



*Foul weather gear. This is exceptionally important,

 and includes rain coat, rain pants, rain hat, change

 of shoes, and waterproof boots for walking in mud

 and standing in 6" of water.



*Plant presses are not mandatory, but we urge you

 to use them for a more complete record of the

 Apprenticeship. Information will be available on

 how to make them for almost no cost.



Summer Term



*Flora of the Pacific Northwest by Hitchcock and

 Cronquist, University of Washington Press. This

 book is expensive; looking in used bookstores and

 garage sales during the spring is recommended.



*Medicinal Plants of the Pacific West by Michael

 Moore, Red Crane Books. Unfortunately, this book

 so recently published is out of print already. We will

 keep you advised as to future reprints.



*Camping gear. We will be car camping, so bring all

 the camping gear necessary for your comfort.



Extra Expenses



*You will be making a variety of herbal preparations,

 so be prepared to buy gallons of alcohol, a gallon

 of sesame or olive oil, and a few cases of wide

 mouth mason jars (1/2 pints, pints, and perhaps a

 few quarts).



*Carpooling expenses



Upon Completion of the Apprenticeship and

Further Study



     Apprentices are from diverse backgrounds and

take this course for a variety of reasons. They are

health professionals, students, herbalists, survivalists,

and folks who know nothing about plants or nature but

want to. What you take with you from this

Apprenticeship depends on what you're looking for and

what you put into it.



     We will award a Certificate of Completion to

those students who successfully attend 80% of field

classes and lectures of the entire program. You will

NOT be able to use this to start practicing naturopathy

or diagnosing and prescribing. This is not a skill easily

obtained in a few month's study.



     This Apprenticeship has been used for biology

or botany credits in State Universities or High Schools.

Arrangements need to be made by you with your

school. Some apprentices have secured botanical jobs

from the US Forest Service and Oregon State

University. College requirements are often waived in

entry level positions in lieu of the experience of the

Apprenticeship. Anyone seeking to become a

naturopathic health practitioner needs to know where

plant medicines come from (not the health food store)

and develop personal associations with the plants they

prescribe. Most naturopathic schools lack wildcrafting

courses. This Apprenticeship is an ideal first year

introduction to herbal medicine.



     Not everyone will become naturopaths,

botanists, or disappear into the forests to live on wild

foods. Most continue to harvest and make yearly

batches of extracts for themselves and their families.

Everyone will, however, define their relationship to

nature in a way that will last a lifetime.



Other Information



     Apprentice schedules will determine the times

and days of lectures. There will be one weekend and

two weekday groups per week, each identical in

material. Apprentices will be able to schedule one of

these days even with a weekend job or Monday to

Friday 9 to 5 employment.



     We require a minimum of two trips per month to

continue as an apprentice. Two cancellations without

notice (no shows) are grounds for expulsion. Please do

not bring dogs, friends, or a rushed attitude on picking

trips.



How to Apply



     This Apprenticeship requires commitment and

many hours of travel. It is exciting and rewarding in

many ways; however, it is also hard work. It is not for

everybody.





     Interviews will start in September 1995. The

Apprenticeship will fill up very quickly as there are only

15 spaces available. Interviews last about two hours

and are required. It is important that prospective

apprentices understand what the Apprenticeship

involves.



     Spring term will run from April 1996 to June

1996. The total cost for the spring term is $600.00 for 9

field trips, 1 overnight field trip, and 10 lectures. A one

hundred dollar non-refundable deposit is required to

hold your place. A seventy-five dollar discount will

occur for payment in full before the first picking trip.

Financing, work trade, and other trade options are

available.



     Enrollment in the summer term is based on the

successful completion of the spring term. It will run

from mid-July 1996 to the first week in September

1996, and consists of 4 overnight trips and 6 lectures.

The cost is $400.00.



     For more information or to arrange an interview

write Columbines and Wizardry Herbs, Inc. at PO Box

50532, Eugene, OR 97405 or call (503)-465-9069,

email howieb@teleport.com, or visit the Web Page at

The Herbal Hall,

http://www.crl.com/~robbee/apprent.html.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:55:43 EDT

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From:         charles ferris <ferrisw@VORTEX.ITHACA.NY.US>

Organization: The Total Perspective Vortex BBS, Ithaca, NY

Subject:      tumors in liver/Dr Jin



The chinese herbalist that lives in Ithaca is Dr Jin Fang.

her address is:

Dr. Jin Fang

104 Pine View Terrace

Ithaca, N.Y.  14850

voice phone: 607-272-4262

fax phone : 607-272-1310



e-mail is: jinfang@aol.com



ttyl



--

charles ferris - ferrisw@vortex.ithaca.ny.us

The Total Perspective Vortex BBS, Ithaca, NY



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:17:53 -0500

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From:         CATS! <curtz@TENET.EDU>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed

In-Reply-To:  <v01510100ac8f211b301a@[128.249.6.145]>



Try Valerian Root.  Also if you are not off milk products, I love warm milk.

I also found that when my daughterbegan her teens that she couldnt sleep.

Dr. Lendon Smith in Feed your kids right recommends calcium supplements;

they worked great!   If this is not a long term problem try Valerian Root.

sharon



On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Diane E. Emery wrote:



> Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post so I hope

> this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal medicine and I

> find it fascinating. My question for now is about my fiance. He has been

> having trouble sleeping the last couple months, he says he is woken up

> frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to sleep for hours, only to be

> woken up again by another dream. Do any of you have any herbal therapies he

> could try? I have a limited supply of herbs right now but if there are some

> fairly common ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time

> putting something together. Thanks you for your help!

>

> Diane

> emery@bcm.tmc.edu

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:22:24 CDT

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From:         Shirley Bates <shirley@BATESX.CS.HOU.COMPAQ.COM>

Subject:      Re: 1996 Herbalist Apprenticeship Program

In-Reply-To:  <199509271836.LAA00929@desiree.teleport.com>; from "Howie

              Brounstein" at Sep 27, 95 11:36 am



Anyone know of any programs like this in the Houston, Texas area?



--

Shirley

shirley@batesx.cs.hou.compaq.com





From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:44:47 EDT

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From:         Mother of Shiva <LAJONEZ1@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed

In-Reply-To:  Message of Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:49:03 -0600 from

              <emery@BCM.TMC.EDU>



My favorite sleep remedy is a tea made of equal parts valerian root,

catnip and hops (make sure your hops flowers are fairly fresh - they

lose potency fast).  Do not attempt to drive your car or operate heavy

machinery after drinking this tea!



lesley ann jones



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:23:39 -0400

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From:         "F. Alex Hamill.User." <Leaflight@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



And BE CAREFUL WITH SKULLCAP!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:24:11 -0400

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From:         "F. Alex Hamill.User." <Leaflight@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



The good old standby is VALERIAN ROOT  (Valeriana officinalis).  The plant is

fairly rich in alkaloids and glycosides, and the oil (compound within) is

similar to valium...though the alkaloid content is only 0.1% (primarily

chatinine and valerine.)  The volatile oil (which would be what you're

interested in) consists of formic, acetic, butyric, and valeric acid esters

of borneaol, as well as pinene and camphene.  It's listed as a relaxant and

mild tranquilizer.

I'm not suggesting or proposing any use here, just so we're clear!  Wouldn't

want to be responsible for some bizarre reaction or adverse

event...understand that these are chemicals, and potent!

Recommended by my book is to steep covered for 20 minutes in cool water, 1

tbls of macerated (cut finely with scissors) fresh root per cup of water, and

this supposedly equals a 10 mg Valium.  Hmmm.

The Internist's Compendium of Patient Information, however, states that most

insomnias are related to behavioral rather than medical problems.  One

example is Conditioned Insomnia.  One must take care NOT to associate bedroom

stimuli with FRUSTRATION or SLEEPLESSNESS.  The normal bedtime procedure must

trigger a positive attitude to sleep.  Rx may take time and effort, but here

it is:

NO DAYTIME NAPS

EXERCISE REGULARLY

GO TO BED ONLY WHEN SLEEPY

IF SLEEP DOES NOT COME QUICKLY, GET UP

FATIGUE LEADS TO RAPID SLEEP ONSED

BED BECOMES ASSOCIATED WITH GOING TO SLEEP QUICKLY



warm baths before bed, avoiding alcoholic drinks in late afternoon, cut back

on coffee and tea, no large meals late in evening or heavy, fatty foods

before bed, go for walk before bed, don't use your bedroom as place of work,

etc. are also recommended.



Hope there's luck.





Try John Lust's The Herb Book for some good teas for sleep...



Good luck!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:30:59 -0400

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From:         "F. Alex Hamill.User." <Leaflight@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: herbal dangers, symphytum and stuff



Yes, that's a fact, table-pepper in the eyes is painful!  I am rightfully

corrected!  But I was mainly referring to adverse events associated with

normal use ( i.e., a few shakes on the mashed potato now and then).



And the general use of it as a part of my daily regimen?  Well, this will

sound silly, of course, but I have seemed to always be a bit prone to the

normal cold or flu turning into the run-of-the-mill sinusitis, then right on

in to bronchitis.  Always the physician placed me on an antibiotic (which I

have no disagreement with in theory, but the road was difficult...all that

coughing and wheezing and missing classes!)  Well, a friend told me to try

this pill-a-day of garlic extract and echinacea.  Well, coincidence

probably/maybe (who knows?) but my yearly bouts with even the common cold

have been ended completely.  I have not been ill in any way (aside from a few

headaches...two or three per year maybe)  for the last 3, actually 4 now,

years.  Related to the herbs?  Placebo effect?  Combination?  Well, I'll find

out one of these days when I forget to pick up the new bottle of vitamins and

herbal extracts!!!  If I fall ill, I'll know!



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 04:09:16 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <30691613@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> on 9/27/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >>>Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post

: so I hope this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal

: medicine and I find it fascinating. My question for now is about my

: fiance. He has been having trouble sleeping the last couple months,

: he says he is woken up frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to

: sleep for hours, only to be woken up again by another dream. Do any

: of you have any herbal therapies he could try? I have a limited

: supply of herbs right now but if there are some fairly common

: ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time putting

: something together. Thanks you for your help!

:

: Diane

: emery@bcm.tmc.edu



Does he drink cofffee?



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:21:18 +0100

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From:         James Morley <jm12kg@LION.RBGKEW.ORG.UK>

Subject:      Plants to predetermine sex of unborn children

In-Reply-To:  <k4o4BD1w164w@vortex.ithaca.ny.us>



I have received an interesting enquiry which unfortunately I have no

information on, either in our own databases or in our library.



Have plants ever been used in an attempt to predetermine the sex of

an unborn child?



Thanks in advance for any information that anyone may have.



James



--------------------------------------------------------------

James Morley                           J.Morley@rbgkew.org.uk

Centre for Economic Botany

Royal Botanic Gardens                    Tel. (0)181 332 5719

Kew, Richmond                            Fax. (0)181 332 5278

Surrey   TW9 3AE

UK                          WWW  http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/ceb

--------------------------------------------------------------



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:25:58 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Australian Herbs

Comments: cc: ausplants@iinet.com.au



>There's an article on Melaleuca in the Vegetarian times this month. It seems

>that is is documented to be sntiseptic and has some healing properties. THe

>claims of antifungus are not  fully substantiated according to the article.



Rubbish. The oil is one of the strongest fungacides on the planet and well

documented see the recent work of Lyall at Macquarie University, among

others



>It also stated that most cosmetics whic include melaleuca contain less than

>10% and would not be therapeutic. It seems that it must contain greater than

>10% melaleuca oil to be effective.



10% is an awful lot of Tea Tree oil. Depends on what you want it to do.

Why do articles on herbs always make these silly, global, unsubtansiated

generalistions that are stated as if they were holy writ?



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:26:32 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: dandruff -reply



>Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM> wrote:

>

>> I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

>> of/remedy dandruff.

>

Dandruff is a fungus. It can be controlled by most fungacides eg  essential

oils (Rosemary, lavender Tea Tree etc), zinc, (calcium?), olive oil, (take

a spoonful of Virgin a day); selenium/sulphide or Nizoral (usually

available only via doc's prescription). Low sugar diet may also help.  See

my book The Healing Garden for more info.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:26:43 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Comfrey: Russian or not?



>Darryl McGrath:

>

>I have always regarded regular comfrey as the medical plant & Russian comfrey

>as the compost maker & fodder plant.

Both are medicinal

Threre are many varieties of comfrey, including ornamental ones.

There are also many cultivars of Russian comfrey. See the work of Lawrence

Hills and HDRA in England for more detail.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:26:37 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Bergamot



>Barb W Bush <Apaulo111@AOL.COM> writes:

>

>> Hello!  A friend of mine has Bergamot growing in her yard and would like to

>> know if when making tea do you use leaves and or flowers?  What could she add

>> to the tea?

>

>Both the leaves and flowers can be used.  The flowers, of course, add

>nice colour.  Some say that the flowers have a more delicate flavour,

>and of the various varieties, the red bergamot is the creme-de-la-creme.

>



I prefer the red flowering -lots more bergamot orange style flavour-

variety not the pink which is usually the only one available from seed?



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:27:12 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Wax Coated Fruits & Vegetables/pomander making

Comments: To: Holistic Discussion Group

          <HOLISTIC%SIUCVMB.BITNET@metro.ucc.su.oz.au>



One of the lesser known problems with wax is pomander making.

Yes pomander making!

Many of my customers had tried to make pomanders but within days the orange

had gone moldy.Thus destroying hours of work and alot of expensive spices

 As I grow my own oranges I never had this problem. The oranges must have

been very old and as soon as the skin (and wax coating)was pierced by the

cloves they decomposed rapidly.

I wonder what the nutritional implications of all this are?

I know vitamin C is lost rapidly, even in freshly squeesed juice.

 What about oranges many months Years? old?



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:27:30 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: Tincture (How?)



>>  Is there anyone on this list that would know how to make a tincture of

>>walnut?

>

>Yes, in Denmark is a group of people (in all 1000 !) in the Assiosation:

>EDB (Ekspermenterende danske braendevinsAmasoerer =3D Eksperimenting danish

>flowering alcohol Amateurs)

>This Group has a dansish newsletter: "Bjesken" and have been dealing in the

>buissines of flowering alcohol the last 20 years....

>

>The recipe for using walnut:

>

>Take 12 green walnuts to a bottle (in Denmark around 5. august). You must

>be able easely to cut them with a knife. Cut them in smaal and drop them in

>vodka (40-45 %)

>

>Leave room in the glass for air (use a big glas) at shake the glass dayly

>the first month. The liquid turn black (looks like dirty water). Put the

>glass in a cool, dark place and forgt it for half a year. Drain the mixture

>in a coffie-filter a store again the liquid for VERY long time in dark.

>

>On happy day... when you can=B4t resist to wait any more... (best after 5

>years or more)... mix the concentrated liquid with vodka or another pure

>alcohol around 35-40 %. Normaly my taste likes a mixture between 5 and 8

>vodva to 1 part concentrate, but try yourself, what you like.

>

>The final product should bee around 38% and some years productione is

>better the others... just like good old vine !

>

>EDB har a list of 300 plants good for tinkturs with names in latin,

>english, German og the scandinvians languages in A5 book format and on disk

>(MAC-DOS,WIN & OS/2)

>

>Med venlig hilsen

>

>Niels Damgaard, Oslo

could you please send more info on this association?



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:26:49 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



>Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post so I hope

>this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal medicine and I

>find it fascinating. My question for now is about my fiance. He has been

>having trouble sleeping the last couple months, he says he is woken up

>frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to sleep for hours, only to be

>woken up again by another dream. Do any of you have any herbal therapies he

>could try? I have a limited supply of herbs right now but if there are some

>fairly common ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time

>putting something together. Thanks you for your help!

>

>Diane

>emery@bcm.tmc.edu

Is he taking a vitamin B supplement? Sometimes these can promote dreaming.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:27:36 +1000

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From:         "by way of adamtfg@ozemail.com.au"

              <schlecmf@ESVAX.DNET.DUPONT.COM>

Subject:      Information on Hibiscus Species

Comments: To: ausplants@iinet.com.au



     With regard to the request for ways to find information on specific

HIBISCUS species, The World Wide Web (WWW) offers some choices for acquiring

this information.  Any standard Web-Browser, such as the free Mosaic or the

commercial Netscape will provide access to these sources.



     In one example, the USDA offers free access to a variety of databases,

and the homepage for this service is:

"http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300/index.html".



     Specifically, there is an Ethnobotanical database and a Phytochemical

database, as described below:



     Browsing the Ethnobotanical database for the Genus Hibiscus references

thirty-three genus/specie combinations, including two spellings of Hibiscus

rosa-sinensis (which you explained was not of interest to you), and one listing

for Hibiscus sp.  Each listing is a hypertext link, and clicking on it will

bring up a new page containing more hypertext links to common names and to

ethnobotanical uses.

     The Hibiscus page can be found at: "http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300/cgi-

bin/dbrun/ethnobotdb?find+Genus+%22Hibiscus%22".



     Browsing the Phytochemical database for the Genus Hibiscus gives two

"hits", Hibiscus rosa-sinensis and Hibiscus sabdariffa.  For the latter, it

gives a common name as Roselle, and a lengthy list of the known chemical

constituents.  This page can be found at: "http://probe.nalusda.gov:8300/cgi-

bin/dbrun/phytochemdb?find+Taxon+%22Hibiscus+sabdariffa%22".



     I can also pass along the address for a WWW page which gives "WWW Sites

of Interest to Botanists", the many entries of which could be scoured for other

sources of information of the type requested.  This page can be found at:

" http://meena.cc.uregina.ca/~liushus/bio/botany.html".



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:37:39 -0400

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From:         "F. Alex Hamill.User." <Leaflight@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: mushroom: Grafola Frendosa



Please check the spelling of Grafola Frendosa.  I have found no reference to

Grafola in the NAPRALERT database of natural products, at least not that

precise spelling.  Also check common name(s) and other homonyms, I'll see

what I can find.



Alex



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:00:27 -0400

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From:         Rob carsello <RCarsello@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant



 I am interested

>though in finding out about a herb that works as an appetite suppressant.



I sell a product that is a combination of herbs that does a very good job at

reducing the appetite.



Rob Carsello 312-641-8974

EMail  RCarsello@aol.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:11:42 -0800

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Juicers



cHECK second hand stores and garage sales. I got a VitaMix for $50 and

an Acme juicer for $10 at garage sales. I'm not proud.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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Subject:      Re: SUGAR CRAVING



To get off the list just send to listserve@trearnpc.ege.edu.tr and put

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

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From:         Anita F Hales <JSAFH@ACAD1.ALASKA.EDU>

Subject:      horseradish and pollution



I just read in National Wildlife magazine that it has been discovered that

horseradish enzyme peroxidase added to peroxide will cause phenols in

wastewater to precipitate allowing them to be removed by filtration. They've

also found that potatoes and radishes have some similar possibilities.

I guess my Grandmother was on to something when she told me that cooking

potatoes in old oil will remove the rancid taste and smell. It will even

remove fishy taste from oil in which fish has been cooked. There's

frequently something behind "Old wives tales".



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:32:48 -0600

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From:         "Diane E. Emery" <emery@BCM.TMC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



>In message ID <30691613@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> on 9/27/95,

>HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

>

>: >>>Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post

>: so I hope this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal

>: medicine and I find it fascinating. My question for now is about my

>: fiance. He has been having trouble sleeping the last couple months,

>: he says he is woken up frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to

>: sleep for hours, only to be woken up again by another dream. Do any

>: of you have any herbal therapies he could try? I have a limited

>: supply of herbs right now but if there are some fairly common

>: ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time putting

>: something together. Thanks you for your help!

>:

>: Diane

>: emery@bcm.tmc.edu

>

>Does he drink cofffee?

>

>--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com



Yes, he does, but only in the morning. At night (occasionally) he will have

one beer (homebrewed-lots of hops). I have heard of using hops as a sleep

aid, do they work if alcohol is present too?





Thanks for your help.



Diane

emery@bcm.tmc.edu

>--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:04:45 -0700

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From:         Howie Brounstein <howieb@TELEPORT.COM>

Subject:      Careful with Skullcap



At 12:23 AM 9/28/95 -0400, you wrote:

>And BE CAREFUL WITH SKULLCAP!

>



 I have never seen a bad reaction to Skullcap, except perhaps the toxicity

scare that came from impure skullcap cut with another toxic herb. Using

wildcrafted and organically grown skullcap that was definately pure

skullcap, I have heard of only one person whose body didn't react well to

its effect, just yesterday as a matter of fact. Although I'm sure not

everyone's chemistry or constition suggests

 skullcap use, I have seen many more people react adversely to valerian root.

I feel Valerian should be used very carefully the first time someone takes

to to see if they're

"allergic" or have the wrong constition. I wouldn't put skullcap in this

category.



Of course, we should all be careful of where we get our herbs, and should

firmly trust the knowledge and integrity any wildcrafter or company that

distributes wild herbs.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:33:19 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: dandruff -reply

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <199509280826.SAA25503@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> on 9/28/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM> wrote:

: >

: >> I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

: >> of/remedy dandruff.

: >

: Dandruff is a fungus.



Hmmm. Who was just talking about gross generalizations?



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:32:20 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <950928090026_111508250@emout04.mail.aol.com> on 9/28/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: I am interested

: >though in finding out about a herb that works as an appetite suppressant.

:

: I sell a product that is a combination of herbs that does a very good job

at

: reducing the appetite.



Then shame on you! The proper balancing of health automatically moderates

appetite. Using herbs that suppress appetite by other means is abhorrent to

real herbalism. Appetite problems are almost ALWAYS due to lifestyle errors,

dietary errors, NOT something that needs herbs to fix.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:31:54 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed

Comments: To: Paul_Iannone@pop.com



In message ID <v01510103ac909a5750e9@[128.249.6.145]> on 9/28/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >In message ID <30691613@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> on 9/27/95,

: >HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

: >

: >: >>>Hello all. I am fairly new to the list and this is my first post

: >: so I hope this works!! I am just starting to learn more about herbal

: >: medicine and I find it fascinating. My question for now is about my

: >: fiance. He has been having trouble sleeping the last couple months,

: >: he says he is woken up frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to

: >: sleep for hours, only to be woken up again by another dream. Do any

: >: of you have any herbal therapies he could try? I have a limited

: >: supply of herbs right now but if there are some fairly common

: >: ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time putting

: >: something together. Thanks you for your help!

: >:

: >: Diane

: >: emery@bcm.tmc.edu

: >

: >Does he drink cofffee?

: >

: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

:

: Yes, he does, but only in the morning.



Yes, and has he been getting sufficient sleep for the months prior to his

recent problem? Been under much stress?



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:38:26 -0400

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From:         conrad@RICHTR.UUCP

Organization: Fax Your Resume / Please Don't Email

Subject:      JOB OPPORTUNITY: Grower/Manager Wanted



Message-Id: <95Sep28.204359edt.249911-1@mail.uunet.ca>





Experienced grower required for head grower/manager position at a

leading potted herb greenhouse operation near Toronto, Canada.  The

successful candidate will have proven horticultural skills and

management experience in herb, potted plant or bedding plant production.

University level training in horticulture is a must.  Expertise or

interest in non-chemical production methods a definite plus.  This

position is open to citizens of any country, but first preference

will be citizens of Canada.  Fax resume and salary expectations

in confidence to +1-905-640-6641.



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:24:30 PDT

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From:         "Theresa Williams (Echo News)" <v-twill@MICROSOFT.COM>

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant



Garcinia cambogia is a currently popular

----------

From: Rob carsello  <RCarsello@AOL.COM>

To: Multiple recipients of list HERB  <HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR>

Subject: Re: appetite suppressant

Date: Thursday, September 28, 1995 9:00AM



 I am interested

>though in finding out about a herb that works as an appetite suppressant.



I sell a product that is a combination of herbs that does a very good job at

reducing the appetite.



Rob Carsello 312-641-8974

EMail  RCarsello@aol.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:06:05 +0100

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From:         James Morley <jm12kg@LION.RBGKEW.ORG.UK>

Subject:      Organic Essential Oils

In-Reply-To:  <m0sxYUj-0001AzC@golden.ripco.com>



Has anyone come across any literature examining the potential

differences, both in quality and efficacy, between organic and

non-organic essential oils.  There have been a lot of claims made about

organic oils, but can these be substantiated?



Many thanks



James Morley



--------------------------------------------------------------

James Morley                           J.Morley@rbgkew.org.uk

Centre for Economic Botany

Royal Botanic Gardens                    Tel. (0)181 332 5719

Kew, Richmond                            Fax. (0)181 332 5278

Surrey   TW9 3AE

UK                          WWW  http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/ceb

--------------------------------------------------------------



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 00:21:25 -0400

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From:         "Sherwood S. Tucker" <DDS1@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Negative ions



I am looking for info about negative ion generator.



dds1



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:21:24 +0100

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From:         James Morley <jm12kg@LION.RBGKEW.ORG.UK>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed

In-Reply-To:  <30691613@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov>



I've just seen in The Pharmaceutical Journal a report of a paper in the

Lancet (1995, 346:p701) in which the researchers showed that in

psychogeriatric patients lavender oil was as effective as regular

hypnotics (temazepam 10mg, promazine 25mg, and chlormethiazole 192mg).



This wasn't a clinical trial but the researchers call for larger,

controlled studies.



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James Morley                           J.Morley@rbgkew.org.uk

Centre for Economic Botany

Royal Botanic Gardens                    Tel. (0)181 332 5719

Kew, Richmond                            Fax. (0)181 332 5278

Surrey   TW9 3AE

UK                          WWW  http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/ceb

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From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 07:45:20 -0500

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From:         Jaime Delgado <jdelgado@PI.PRO.EC>

Subject:      HELP: RESPIRATORY INFECTION RESEARCH



HELLO



We are getting into research on RESPIRATORY INFECTION ACUTE IN CHILDREN

UNDER 5 YEARS.  Please if somebody knows about plants or alternative methods

to prevent and treatment, please tell us.  This is a public health

undertaking to work on suburban areas in developing countries.



Thanks in advance.



Jaime Delgado

FUNDACION ARMONIA PLANETARIA

jdelgado@pi.pro.ec



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:50:40 -0600

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From:         "Diane E. Emery" <emery@BCM.TMC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



>In message ID <v01510103ac909a5750e9@[128.249.6.145]> on 9/28/95,

>HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

>

>: >In message ID <30691613@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> on 9/27/95,

>: >HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

>: >

<snip>

 My question for now is about my

>: >: fiance. He has been having trouble sleeping the last couple months,

>: >: he says he is woken up frequently by dreams and doesn't fall back to

>: >: sleep for hours, only to be woken up again by another dream. Do any

>: >: of you have any herbal therapies he could try? I have a limited

>: >: supply of herbs right now but if there are some fairly common

>: >: ingredients I could find I wouldnt mind spending the time putting

>: >: something together. Thanks you for your help!

>: >:

>: >: Diane

>: >: emery@bcm.tmc.edu

>: >

>: >Does he drink cofffee?

>: >

>: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

>:

>: Yes, he does, but only in the morning.

>

>Yes, and has he been getting sufficient sleep for the months prior to his

>recent problem? Been under much stress?

>

>--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

>-



Oddly enough, his stress and sleepless nights ended just before this

problem arose when he passed his qualifying exams (he is a grad student).

Do you think it could be some sort of delayed response to the stress?



Thanks for the help!



Diane



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:32:45 EDT

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From:         BOB SCOTT <URWD77A@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Phone #



Does anyone have the phone # of Int'n  Herb Growers Assoc.

                                                          Thanks

             Bob Scott URWD77A@prodigy.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 15:06:04 -0400

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From:         "George N. Allen" <gallen@CPCUG.ORG>

Subject:      devil's club



Thanks to those who responded to my query concerning the use of Devil's

Club for reducing sugar craving. I have taken the advice and am now

researching magnesium deficiency and several other avenues.

        One post suggested using chromium picolinate. There have been

recent poon the holistic list that new research has found this

substance to be toxic and people are being advised against its use.

Sorry, I don't have the references, as they got lost in the flood of

paper that inundates my office.



                        George



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:48:36 -0400

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From:         Susan Oneppo <LovesToken@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Juicers



I have an Omega juicer that I love!  Usually I put the pulp onto the compose

heap but on occassion, (depending on the veggies used) I have used the pulp

as a base for vegetable soup stock.



Works well.



At one time, I had also looked at the Vita-Mix.  While extremely tempting,

seeing that it can make soft serve ice cream or hot soup, I decided to get

some more software with the money instead.



Sue

LovesToken@aol.com



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:20:11 -0400

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From:         John Boik <JohnBoik@AOL.COM>

Subject:      new book



Greetings!  My name is John Boik.  I am a licensed acupuncturist in Portland,

Oregon.  I just joined your list and am looking forward to reading the posts.



I am pleased to announce the completion of my new book "Cancer and Natural

Medicine: A Textbook of Basic Science and Clinical Research" (see its web

page at "http://www.teleport.com/~ormed" for more details).  I would like to

offer a free copy of the book to a list member who is willing to post a

review.  I would like to find someone who:



1)  is without strong biases either for or against alternative medicine,

2)  is a medical professional (preferably an open minded oncologist) or is a

lay person who is comfortable with moderately technical writing, and

3)  is someone with good writing skills (and preferably experience writing

book reviews).



If you are interested in this offer, please send me an e-mail providing a

very brief description of your professional background, writing experience,

etc., and let me know what other cancer or health-related lists or newsgroups

you may belong to.  Also, feel free to send an e-mail if you have questions

that the home page didn't answer, or you just want to say hello.



Thanks,



John Boik  (johnboik@aol.com)



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 05:52:00 GMT

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From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



In message ID <v01510100ac91c5b4e196@[128.249.6.145]> on 9/29/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >: >Does he drink cofffee?

: >: >

: >: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

: >:

: >: Yes, he does, but only in the morning.

: >

: >Yes, and has he been getting sufficient sleep for the months prior to his

: >recent problem? Been under much stress?

: >

: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

: >-

:

: Oddly enough, his stress and sleepless nights ended just before this

: problem arose when he passed his qualifying exams (he is a grad student).

: Do you think it could be some sort of delayed response to the stress?

:

: Thanks for the help!



ABSOLUTELY! The development of insomnia is hardly ever a short-term matter.

Slowly, over several months, certain essential energies are depleted, until

finally the Spirit can find no rest. The answer is NOT sleep herbs! It is

elimination of causes (going back to early bedtimes, no use of stimulants,

afternoon naps as needed, warm, nourishing diet [no fruit, fruit juice,

desserts, or frozen treats], mild exercise, and herbs to build the factors

that were depleted). For that analysis, an acupunturist could be handy.

Generally, Chinese ginseng, taken in the morning, is the main herb of choice.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:31:13 +1000

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



>The good old standby is VALERIAN ROOT  (Valeriana officinalis).  The plant is

>fairly rich in alkaloids and glycosides, and the oil (compound within) is

>similar to valium...though the alkaloid content is only 0.1% (primarily

>chatinine and valerine.)  The volatile oil (which would be what you're

>interested in) consists of formic, acetic, butyric, and valeric acid esters

>of borneaol, as well as pinene and camphene.  It's listed as a relaxant and

>mild tranquilizer.

I havent found the oil has the same relaxing properties as the plant.



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:31:30 +1000

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From:         frgntgar@OZEMAIL.COM.AU

Subject:      Herb Confrences Australasia

Comments: To: ausplants@iinet.com.au



I just received some info on the following which may be of interest:

"Phytotherapy International Confrence of Plant Medicine

Auckland New Zealand April 12-14 1996

detaILS MEDI HERB AUST 61 76 614900"

And:

 NAAA gerneral meeting and 1 day seminar Royal Botanic Gardens Sat 14

October 1995 Details NAAA 02 2116452



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 17:56:31 +1000

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From:         Adam Van Wirdum <adamtfg@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>

Subject:      Re: dandruff -reply



>In message ID <199509280826.SAA25503@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> on 9/28/95,

>HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

>

>: >Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM> wrote:

>: >

>: >> I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

>: >> of/remedy dandruff.

>: >

>: Dandruff is a fungus.

>

>Hmmm. Who was just talking about gross generalizations?

>

>--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

Paul do you work at being irritating or does it come naturally?

I am sorry  I have forgotten its name. I havent got that sort of memory.

Do you need it or are you just being smart?



Michael Bailes.  The Fragrant Garden 25 Portsmouth Road  Erina 2250 N.S.W,

Australia.

Telephone local  Fax: 043 65 1979  Voice 043 67 7322 Freecall 1800 815772

Telephone overseas Fax: 61 43 65 1979  Voice  61 43 67 7322  E-Mail:

frgntgar@ozemail.com.au

  "The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others  only

a green thing that                stands in the way. As a man is, so he

sees."  William Blake 1757-1827



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 08:38:05 -0400

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From:         "Sherwood S. Tucker" <DDS1@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant



In a message dated 95-09-29 14:49:30 EDT, you write:



>

>Then shame on you! The proper balancing of health automatically moderates

>appetite. Using herbs that suppress appetite by other means is abhorrent to

>real herbalism. Appetite problems are almost ALWAYS due to lifestyle errors,

>dietary errors, NOT something that needs herbs to fix.

>

>--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com



Gee Peter, I wish we all could be PERFECT and not need ANY herbs!

 Unfortunately, I am not and there are times that herbs come in handy.  I am

a weakling when it comes to Chocolate Sorbet or Chocolate anything for that

matter.  I have been losing weight and am now down to 203 from 230.  This has

been (IMHO) due to using DHEA and a product that contains Chromium

Picholinate.  Maybe it is a placebo effect -  maybe the who knows. Anyway it

has helped.   The problem is that these last 15 pounds are a grind and I wish

I could just drop them ass easily as the first 25!  Maybe some wonder herb i

will find.



Anyway, I really appreciate someone like you who has a VAST store of

knowledge and wisdom and is willing to share it but don't be so harsh - it

makes people shy away from posting things that are of interest to weakings

like myself! 8=)



dds1



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Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:23:08 -0400

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From:         Jenny Kendall <ZENOMIND@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: sleeping aids needed



Hello,



Diane said:



>Do you think it could be some sort of delayed response to the stress?



I'm a rank beginner here, but this has happened to me, and to others I know.

 My husband is a light sleeper by nature.  The other day he told me he had

not been sleeping well, but he didn't mind it, because his sleeplessness was

induced by dreaming.  I wonder if your fiance might not need his dreams more

than sleep for the time being -- to make up for his previous need to

concentrate on the workaday world?   I've found my dreams were trying to tell

me something I couldnt' seem to hear during the daytime.



Of course, if his sleeplessness persists, then I've found that a cup of a

simple herbal tea, either chamomile or one of the commercially obtained

'sleepytime' types of tea, followed with 10-15 minutes of a quiet meditation

(a guided meditation such as one that Thich Naht Hahn provides in 'The

Blooming of a Lotus' is a great way to get started or refreshed on

meditation).



I'm new to the list, embarking on a self-study course of herbalism, after

years of enjoying the horticultural, culinary and aromatic benefits of

herbing.   From here in rural Madison County Iowa -



Jenny Kendall

Not Fade Away Farm

1275 Hogback Bridge Road

Earlham, IA  50072



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:14:16 -0400

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              <HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR>

Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Marty Bodine <EZBO@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: devil's club



In a message dated 95-09-29 16:26:41 EDT, you write:



>        One post suggested using chromium picolinate. There have been

>recent poon the holistic list that new research has found this

>substance to be toxic and people are being advised against its use.

>Sorry, I don't have the references, as they got lost in the flood of

>paper that inundates my office.

>

>                        George



Does anybody know where information about this can be found, or whether its

really so?



MB



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:38:23 GMT

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: dandruff -reply



In message ID <199509300756.RAA07375@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> on 9/30/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >In message ID <199509280826.SAA25503@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> on 9/28/95,

: >HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:

: >

: >: >Joanna Bartlett <AzureOtter@AOL.COM> wrote:

: >: >

: >: >> I would appreciate any info anyone may have on how to control/get rid

: >: >> of/remedy dandruff.

: >: >

: >: Dandruff is a fungus.

: >

: >Hmmm. Who was just talking about gross generalizations?

: >

: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

: Paul do you work at being irritating or does it come naturally?

: I am sorry  I have forgotten its name. I havent got that sort of memory.

: Do you need it or are you just being smart?



Michael, I'm sure you have inadvertently misunderstood some data that came

your way. Dandruff is NOT =fungus. There are many causes for dandruff. If you

can demonstrate this tidbit is true, I owe you an apology--but I doubt it.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:08:06 GMT

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         Paul Iannone <p_iannone@POP.COM>

Organization: DigitalPopcorn Online Services

Subject:      Re: appetite suppressant



In message ID <950930083804_113031845@mail04.mail.aol.com> on 9/30/95,

HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR wrote:



: >Then shame on you! The proper balancing of health automatically moderates

: >appetite. Using herbs that suppress appetite by other means is abhorrent

to

: >real herbalism. Appetite problems are almost ALWAYS due to

: lifestyle errors, >dietary errors, NOT something that needs herbs to fix.

: >

: >--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

:

: Gee Peter, I wish we all could be PERFECT and not need ANY herbs!

:  Unfortunately, I am not and there are times that herbs come in handy.  I

am

: a weakling when it comes to Chocolate Sorbet or Chocolate anything for that

: matter.  I have been losing weight and am now down to 203 from 230.

: This has been (IMHO) due to using DHEA and a product that contains Chromium

: Picholinate.  Maybe it is a placebo effect -  maybe the who knows. Anyway

it

: has helped.   The problem is that these last 15 pounds are a grind

: and I wish I could just drop them ass easily as the first 25!  Maybe

: some wonder herb i will find.

:

: Anyway, I really appreciate someone like you who has a VAST store of

: knowledge and wisdom and is willing to share it but don't be so harsh - it

: makes people shy away from posting things that are of interest to weakings

: like myself! 8=)



There is a vast difference between 'harshness' and wisdom, no doubt. It is

very harsh on your body to suppress your appetite. Rather, you should

moderate your imbalances!



Eating fruit or fruit juice daily, or eating desserts within an hour of

meals, or skipping and delaying meals, or drinking coffee because you don't

rest enough, or not getting mild exercise daily--these are the things that

make your appetite swing--and they can, and should, be avoided. That is

wisdom as it affects diet. Use of herbs to press the body further is not

wise, and it avoids the real issue.



DHEA and Cr picolinate are NOT herbs, so that part is moot. DHEA is

potentially imbalancing stuff, though.



--Paul  ||  p_iannone@pop.com

--



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 14:28:57 -0400

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         "J. Keeler" <jkeeler@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>

Subject:      Re: devil's club

In-Reply-To:  <950930111415_33088902@mail04.mail.aol.com>



I too need to know immediately if chrominium picolinate is toxic because

it was prescribed by a hospital full-fledged M.D. just this week for me.

Also, I have several friends who have been on it long term and also

started this week.  It was prescribed to me by an endocrinologist (head

one) who said it will prevent me from going into full fledged diabetes.



PLEASE CLEAR UP THIS MATTER IMMEDIATELY--WHERE IS THE RESEARCH THAT

INDICATES THAT THIS IS TOXIC OR IS THIS JUST ANOTHER SCAM TO KEEP PEOPLE

FROM USING HERBALS?



Joyce in Vermont



On Sat, 30 Sep 1995, Marty Bodine wrote:



> In a message dated 95-09-29 16:26:41 EDT, you write:

>

> >        One post suggested using chromium picolinate. There have been

> >recent poon the holistic list that new research has found this

> >substance to be toxic and people are being advised against its use.

> >Sorry, I don't have the references, as they got lost in the flood of

> >paper that inundates my office.

> >

> >                        George

>

> Does anybody know where information about this can be found, or whether its

> really so?

>

> MB

>



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 14:32:38 -0400

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Sender:       HERB@TREARNPC.EGE.EDU.TR

From:         "J. Keeler" <jkeeler@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Chromiun Picolinate TOXIC or not?

In-Reply-To:  <950930111415_33088902@mail04.mail.aol.com>



This is Joyce in Vermont.  I just posted in haste a reply to the post

that Chrominium Picolinate has been found to be toxic.  I mentioned

something about is this a scam to scare us to stop using herbals.   I

know that chromiun picolinate is not an herb, so please do not slam me

for that one.  However, it is something that naturopathic healers and

herbalists would recommend.



Joyce in Vermont



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:24:34 -0400

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From:         mberg <allyoop@USIT.NET>

Subject:      Re; Chromium Picolinate



Interesting that Chromium Picolinate should come up in disscussion now. My

sister has been taking this for wieght loss and has just asked me to ask on

the list if any one has had the side effects that she has. About eight

hours after taking it, if she exersises or gets her heart rate up doing any

thing, she gets hives down her hips and thighs. She stopped taking it and

the hives stopped. She has been off for ten days and is now going to start

agian to see if the hives occure again. She doesn't " do herbs " so we

don't think it's a bad combination of chemicals. Perhaps it's a combination

of something she eats?

                                        Thanks

                                                Alison



From a@b.c Sat Jan 01 16:46:16 1994

Date:         Sat, 30 Sep 1995 14:45:00 PDT

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From:         Ray Grout <ray_grout@SUNSHINE.NET>

Subject:      vitamix-weight-heart



Hello

another newcomer here.



I've missed most of the discussion about Vit-A-mixeres.Could anyone

summarize the jist of the discussion for me?I'm about to succumb to

advertising and purchase a vit-a-mix , even though I feel they are highly

overpriced and that it will, for me, be a sacrifice financially to do it...I

live in such a small area that garage sale possibilities are remote.Anyone

know of someone who wants to sell one for about $250?



Re: weight loss and herbs

I too am VERY interested in hearing of any success stories and what worked.

I have found in nearly impossible, for years,  to lose weight. Recently,  to

my amazement,  I have had some success (15 lbs lost)  but it hasn't

continued;  so I am both encouraged and discouraged. Any suggestions would

be welcome.



Re: heart health and herbs

We use cayenne pepper, hawthorn, Q10, alfalfa, garlic, ginger, etc. Are

there other supplements-herbs- that are effective for post by-pass surgery

and stroke survivers who use a blood-thinner drug??



looking forward to resposnes. Thanks!

Joan



