

From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: James.Steigelmann@capncc01.ssw.abbott.com (Jim Steigelmann)

Date: 31 Jul 1996 21:22:18 GMT



In article <4tjj17$ral$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, 

74163.2126@CompuServe.COM says...

>

>I would love any suggestions you have for carpel tunnel. I have it 

>pretty bad from working as an head teller on a computer for 6 1/2

>years.  Even now that i am going to school full time I had to buy 

>a tape recorder to tape lectures because the hand that is affected 

>the most is my writing hand and after a class or two of note 

>taking my wrist pains or awful.  Thanks! 

>

>                                        Patty



Patty,



I had developed pre-carpal tunnel tendonitus while working as

a programmer analyst.  The corporation sent me to Loyola (an

exceptional hospital/school in Chicago).  The doctor created

a wrist brace/half cast out of a moderately light-weight plastic.

It completely immobilized my wrist, but I could use it and still

work.  After 3-4 months, the tendonitus, the wrist pain, and the 

numbness in my fingers went away.  Not only that - It also 

*permanently* corrected my typing posture.  (I also *very* highly

recommend the Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard - it has completely 

eliminated my sore sholders and arms by allowing them to be in a 

more natural position.)



Best of Luck.







-- 

---------------

Jim Steigelmann

----------------------------------------------------------

The opinions expressed are my own and do not represent the

opinions of my employer,  my boss,  the state  of Illinois,

the government  of the United States  of America, or of the

world in general...

-----------------------------------------------------------





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: semerson@teleport.com (Steve Emerson)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 06:00:05 GMT



CTS is often over-diagnosed, i.e. misdiagnosed.  Often this

problem is nerve entrapment somewhere above the elbow or myofascial

pain syndrome.  It is usually caused by muscle spasm and/or poor

circulation, and just plain overuse.



1. Do what you can to improve diet and nutrition.  Be sure

you are getting enough calcium, potassium, magnesium,

B vitamins, and vitamin C.

2. Take breaks and physically get up and move your body parts.

3. Believe it or not, your mental balance is crucial

in this area.  Neurotransmitter imbalances can cause both

muscle spasm and circulatory problems.  If you tend to be

a wired, anxious person, try a relaxing herb such as valerian

root.  If you tend to be a bored, fatigued, or depressed person,

try a stimulant like gotu kola and ginseng (this contains

a steroid however).

4. Don't type in a slouched posture.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:50:08 GMT



semerson@teleport.com (Steve Emerson) wrote:



>CTS is often over-diagnosed, i.e. misdiagnosed.  Often this

>problem is nerve entrapment somewhere above the elbow or myofascial

>pain syndrome.  It is usually caused by muscle spasm and/or poor

>circulation, and just plain overuse.



>1. Do what you can to improve diet and nutrition.  Be sure

>you are getting enough calcium, potassium, magnesium,

>B vitamins, and vitamin C.

>2. Take breaks and physically get up and move your body parts.

>3. Believe it or not, your mental balance is crucial

>in this area.  Neurotransmitter imbalances can cause both

>muscle spasm and circulatory problems.  If you tend to be

>a wired, anxious person, try a relaxing herb such as valerian

>root.  If you tend to be a bored, fatigued, or depressed person,

>try a stimulant like gotu kola and ginseng (this contains

>a steroid however).

>4. Don't type in a slouched posture.



As a medical transcriptionist I've typed literally millions

(maybe even billions!) of characters, yet I've never had

CTS.  I think the reason is that I have my chair as high as

possible, and position my keyboard as low as possible.  This

posture keeps my wrists and the carpal tunnel area  at a

more natural and relaxed angle.  



Let me know if this helps!



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: semerson@teleport.com (Steve Emerson)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 16:44:34 GMT



kevin@earp.richwood.oh.us wrote:

: Hey, wait a minute.  I just found this newsgroup, and I have carpal

: tunnel something awful, even after one operation two years ago.  Could you

: repeat the advice, please?  Thanks.



Consider the possibility that you never had CTS, or that you maybe

had CTS PLUS a nerve impingement problem somewhere between the

elbow and the neck.  Consider researching Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.



Do you have a problem with muscle tension in your neck/shoulders/

breasts?



--

semerson@teleport.COM  Public Access User -- Not affiliated with Teleport



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: MPACORD@gnn.com (MICHAEL ACORD)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 16:47:57



Carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) is a condition in which the space surrounding 

the median nerve, bounded by the flexor tendons of the fingers and wrist on 

the "bottom," and the transversal carpal ligament on the "top" is decreased,  

through edema, muscular hypertrophy, or other condition.  It is characterised 

by pain, numbness, or tingling in the first two and one half fingers, and the 

thumb.  Other signs may by atrophy or weakness.  Diagnosis is usually best 

made on the basis of history and physical examination, and is felt to be 

confirmed by electrodiagnostic studies (usually nerve conduction velocities, 

or "NCV's.")  However, approximately ifteen percent of patients with 

surgically "proven" CTS may have completely normal NCV's.  Nothing else 

qualifies.

Michael P. Acord

mpacord @gnn.com

macord@kpscal.org





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:32:39 GMT



dajejajo@aol.com (DAJEJAJO) wrote:



>have it, but I do know that the Shaklee form is the most pure.  



At this point in the herbal trades...MOST all herbs are checked and

rechecked..those from reputable companies are.  I would be very

doubtful if the larger companies would carry lousy products.  Look at

their assays on whichever herb you want.  Look at how they do

business.



The herb business is a (I think this is the right figure, or close

anyway), $55 million...business.  So...lets stop this bickering over

whose product is more pure.   OR..if you are STILL worried about

it...muscle test for purity for  your body.



That statement just 'got' me! <g>











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for carpel tunnel or pre-carpel tunnel?

From: Jany Mitges <mitgesj@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA>

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:48:30 -0400



In my experience, if your carpel tunnel has been diagnosed as carpel 

tunnel, the most effective means of dealing with this is reduced stress 

on the area to relieve the pressure on the nerve, to sleep with a brace 

used for this and acupuncture is highly effective.  If it has not been 

diagnosed but is presumed because of the type of pain, numbness you are 

encountering, it is not carpel tunnel but a problem you could be having 

starting from your c 4-6 of your spine, as I recall, or from shoulder 

problems etc.  Best to get it assessed with an EMG to know where to go 

from there.  Herbs I believe can help reduce inflammation that is 

experienced but cannot fully mend the pinching of the nerve if it is 

actually carpel tunnel.



This is just my opinion based on personal experience with a number of 

climbers and athletes who have and do not have carpel tunnel and 

experience the same pains.



Hope it helps.









On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 JWell@cwo.com wrote:



> dajejajo@aol.com (DAJEJAJO) wrote:

> 

> >have it, but I do know that the Shaklee form is the most pure.  

> 

> At this point in the herbal trades...MOST all herbs are checked and

> rechecked..those from reputable companies are.  I would be very

> doubtful if the larger companies would carry lousy products.  Look at

> their assays on whichever herb you want.  Look at how they do

> business.

> 

> The herb business is a (I think this is the right figure, or close

> anyway), $55 million...business.  So...lets stop this bickering over

> whose product is more pure.   OR..if you are STILL worried about

> it...muscle test for purity for  your body.

> 

> That statement just 'got' me! <g>

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Rachel Gholson <rgholson@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: lemonbalm uses?

From: Shannon Brophy <shannon@yoga.com>

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:45:46 -0400



Rachel Gholson wrote:

> 

> I have recently begun an herb garden. Brought lemonbalm because I can

> always remember it as part of the gardens of my youth, at home and at

> houses of cousins in the deep south (US). I don't know why it was there

> though.



I have heard of using it for a headache, as it effects the nerves. It is

also for PMS tension and menstrual tension and depression. It can be

given to children and infants when cold, fever of flu approach. 

-- 

Shannon Brophy, midwife

_____________________________________________________________________

 For information on Yoga, Massage and Bodywork, and Natural Healing  

               or to browse Holistic Products to order

      visit the Roots & Wings Website at http://www.yoga.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: lemonbalm uses?

From: Blaise@mhv.net (Blaise Schatzel)

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:18:37 GMT



Shannon Brophy <shannon@yoga.com> wrote:



>Rachel Gholson wrote:

>> 

>> I have recently begun an herb garden. Brought lemonbalm because I can

>> always remember it as part of the gardens of my youth, at home and at

>> houses of cousins in the deep south (US). I don't know why it was there

>> though.



>I have heard of using it for a headache, as it effects the nerves. It is

>also for PMS tension and menstrual tension and depression. It can be

>given to children and infants when cold, fever of flu approach. 

>-- 

>Shannon Brophy, midwife

>_____________________________________________________________________

> For information on Yoga, Massage and Bodywork, and Natural Healing  

>               or to browse Holistic Products to order

>      visit the Roots & Wings Website at http://www.yoga.com



I have used lemonbalm tea very successfully in treating headaches, and

when mixed with an equal amount of catnip, I have used it as a muscle

relaxant.



I have also found that it is not as affective when dried.



PS. catnip and lemmonbalm tea can be a very strong seditive in some

people. Not dangerous, but strong.













From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: echinacea and goldenseal

From: tina dodge <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 31 Jul 1996 21:47:34 GMT



iuse echinacea and goldenseal when i have a cold or if i feel a sore 

throat coming on. does anyone know if these herbs also kill intestinal 

yeast...do they upset the intestinal flora...do they kill lactobacillus 

also?  i get reoccuring yeast infections, and trying to try various cures 

as well as eliminate various contributors.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: tdmodol@pacbell.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: echinacea and goldenseal

From: @uwec.edu

Date: 1 Aug 1996 05:12:48 GMT



I use these for the same thing and have had great success. Unlike 

antibiotics, these herbs are supposed to boost your own natural imune 

system, not kill off everything.



Bill



cookliwj@uwec.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.aromatherapy,aromatherapy@idma.com

Subject: Leftover Bruise

From: Karen.M.Chan@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen M Chan)

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:15:32 -0700



This year's softball season has been really rough on me.  TWICE already

I've been hit by line drives from the hitter while pitching, plus various

muscle pulls, getting hit by bounced balls or uncaught throws...  I know,

I know... maybe I should learn to catch the silly thing or learn to get

out of the way more alertly.  Anyway, I took a line drive on the left hip

on May 2, and one on the right hip July 15.  I used a salve by Frontier

Herbs that contains St. John's Wort, Arnica, lavender, and some other

stuff on the second bruise.  The first one, well, let's just say I wore it

proudly like a war wound.  (I've never said I was completely sane or

bright, okay??)



Anyway, the second bruise is now gone, the first is long gone, but for

both bruises I still have some skin discoloration.  Nothing that looks

like a bruise, just like I have dirt on me.  They're round, and

softball-impact-place-sized.



Can anyone suggest anything that might safely eliminate the discoloration,

or should I just wait and the coloring will fade away by itself?  I've

never had any leftover coloring like this from any previous bruises

(softball-caused or otherwise), and it's baffling me.



Thanks,

Karen



-- 

Whatever Happens... Smile!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.aromatherapy,aromatherapy@idma.com

Subject: Re: Leftover Bruise

From: (Lee)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 14:24:47 GMT



There is some kind of "gel" available in the refridgerator section of

most health food stores that really worked for me once,  unfortunately

I can't quite remember the name of it (I'm a big help!) but the people

in the store should be familar with it if you inquire about it.

"Elder...." something I think....



Lee    





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.aromatherapy,aromatherapy@idma.com

Subject: Re: Leftover Bruise

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 00:41:49 GMT



Karen......

	The best solution for dark bruises that have significant black & blue

is an applciation of crushed plaintain leaves mixes with a little oil

or water. Make a compress out of this and apply it daily. Plaintain

will break up the clotted blood under the skin tissues and dissolve

them leaving a cleared area in just a few days.

	For new bruises, apply mullein flower oil at least 3 times a day. The

black & blue will never appear. This is great for preventing bruising.



Hope this helps,   John      Eden's Emporium







Karen.M.Chan@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen M Chan) wrote:



>This year's softball season has been really rough on me.  TWICE already

>I've been hit by line drives from the hitter while pitching, plus various

>muscle pulls, getting hit by bounced balls or uncaught throws...  I know,

>I know... maybe I should learn to catch the silly thing or learn to get

>out of the way more alertly.  Anyway, I took a line drive on the left hip

>on May 2, and one on the right hip July 15.  I used a salve by Frontier

>Herbs that contains St. John's Wort, Arnica, lavender, and some other

>stuff on the second bruise.  The first one, well, let's just say I wore it

>proudly like a war wound.  (I've never said I was completely sane or

>bright, okay??)



>Anyway, the second bruise is now gone, the first is long gone, but for

>both bruises I still have some skin discoloration.  Nothing that looks

>like a bruise, just like I have dirt on me.  They're round, and

>softball-impact-place-sized.



>Can anyone suggest anything that might safely eliminate the discoloration,

>or should I just wait and the coloring will fade away by itself?  I've

>never had any leftover coloring like this from any previous bruises

>(softball-caused or otherwise), and it's baffling me.



>Thanks,

>Karen



>-- 

>Whatever Happens... Smile!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: natural way to raise blood pressure?

From: cuncaphe@isd.net

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:52:15 -0600



There are a few herbs that work to normalize blood pressure like

cayenne, blue cohosh and vervain.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats claw ? Different name ?

From: pambergin@aol.com (PamBergin)

Date: 31 Jul 1996 20:37:22 -0400



My daughter has Crohn's disease and was in and out of the hospital for the

past several years; was on every expensive medication the doctors could

think of.  Has been on cats claw since Feb. and has a MARKED improvement. 

However needs to take a high dosage for the effect.  Anybody else usings

it for Crohn's?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: Megan O'Shaughnessy <megan@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:26:05 -0700



Matt wrote:

> 

> Some friends of mine and I are interested to hear from anybody who has

> successfully managed to rid their house and cats of fleas, without using

> industrial chemical pesticides.

> 

> We are looking for some sort of herbal solution that could be prepared at

> home. One clue so far is that Geraniums (I think...) naturally contain

> pyrethrins, ie. chemicals toxic to insect nervous systems.

> 

> Surely mama nature's got the answer?



Boric acid, or pennyroyal. I'm not sure about boric acid, but keep

kids/pets away

from the pennyroyal plants.



-M



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: alford@vnet.ibm.com (Jack Alford)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 18:24:47 GMT



In <838597950.1516.0@spherica.demon.co.uk>, mrr@spherica.demon.co.uk (Matt) writes:

>Some friends of mine and I are interested to hear from anybody who has 

>successfully managed to rid their house and cats of fleas, without using 

>industrial chemical pesticides. 



For a multi-step flea-banishment program, see http://www.whitehawk.com/dirtdoctor



BTW, it's pyrethrum daisies, not geraniums, that are the source of pyrethrum.



Regards,

Jack Alford

Austin, TX







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 2 Aug 1996 01:45:03 GMT



I have used a No-Poison FLEA-FLEA Pet Spray (that's the name) it's made 

by Safe-Life Sytems Co. from Calgary Alberta.  It has a citrus extract in 

it.  I found it at the pet supply store.  It worked well. Also, Brewer's 

Yeast sprinkled in the cat's food, and a eucalyptus collar might help.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: buckwheat@hnehealth.com (Cap'n Buckwheat)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 02:38:29 GMT



drh92@aber.ac.uk (DANIEL ROBERT HOLDSWORTH) wrote:





>In article <4tj1di$r5h@ccnet2.ccnet.com>, T E I X E I R A <teixeira@ccnet.com>

>writes:

>:Cedar chips,  Garlic,  Borax baths,  brewers yeast.  Keep the dirt wet.  

>:Give the dog a bath once a week.  If all else fails, shoot the dog.  d8->



>Feed the dog a Juvenile Hormone mimic in it's food. Juvenile hormone really

>fouls up the life cycles of insects; flea larvae feed on the droppings of the 

>adults.



Where do you find this hormone product and what is it's brand name?

Thxs



Cap'n Buckwheat

>So, feed the dog juvenile hormone, and spray the stuff all over the house. Once

>you've done that, no insect will be able to grow from a larval form to adult

>breeding status in that house, including cockroaches.



>Apart from that, you could try rotenone based flea killers, like derris dust. 

>this isn't all that toxic to dogs, and decays away rapidly. (For that reason

>it is the pesticide of choice when I have to destroy a wasp nest; you can be 

>very generous with the stuff and know it will not pollute the environment.)



>Finally, if all else fails, use standard non-organohalogen flea killers.





>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>     -//-//-_ 		

>   +>\        --__	Slower than a speeding Landrover 110.   Much slower.

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>     -\\-\\--		drh92@aber.ac.uk  (Dan Holdsworth)

>       *  *		Old Chinese Curse: May you live in Interesting Times

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: kerrif1900@aol.com (KerriF1900)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 23:06:54 -0400



I've been using an odor-free garlic tab a day to keep fleas away.  You

know, the kind we buy for ourselves at the health food store?  My dog

doesn't seem to mind and has not been physiologically affected.  No Fleas

at all!!  Of course that after breakfast belch is sort of foul in close

range -  despite the odor free claim.

All the best,

Kerri



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 04:05:41 GMT



The most important aspect in any sort of herbal systemic flea controll 

system is to not wash the animal often if at all!



Jim:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: Donna Whitty <donnaf@oscar.teclink.net>

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:18:36 -0500



> 

> Boric acid, or pennyroyal. I'm not sure about boric acid, but keep

> kids/pets away

> from the pennyroyal plants.

> 

> -M

> 

Isn't that backwards?  I know that you should keep pets and kids away 

from boric acid, but Pennyroyal plants?  How is this harmful?



We make up a solution of pennyroyal essential oil heavily diluted with 

water and spray around the patio or camp site to keep down insects.  It's 

fairly effective, but have never heard of it being harmful.



Peace, and Hope,



Donna Frances

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: "unk." <jgarrett@radware.net>

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:58:05 -0500



Are you sure about keeping cats away from pennyroyal?  Some of my cats

take naps in the pennyroyal plants I have been letting them to help keep

the fleas away. I-d hate to think I've hurt them in any way.



> Donna Whitty <donnaf@oscar.teclink.net> wrote in article

<Pine.SOL.3.91.960808131415.29429A-100000@oscar.teclink.net>...

> > 

> > Boric acid, or pennyroyal. I'm not sure about boric acid, but keep

> > kids/pets away

> > from the pennyroyal plants.

> > 

> > -M

> > 

> Isn't that backwards?  I know that you should keep pets and kids away 

> from boric acid, but Pennyroyal plants?  How is this harmful?

> 

> We make up a solution of pennyroyal essential oil heavily diluted with 

> water and spray around the patio or camp site to keep down insects. 

It's 

> fairly effective, but have never heard of it being harmful.

> 

> Peace, and Hope,

> 

> Donna Frances

> > 

> 

> 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: varnall@aol.com (Varnall)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:05:59 -0400



A few drops of citronella in my dog's shampoo helped, along with more

frequent bathing.   Also the more you vaccuum your house, the more it

helps.   If you put a flea  collar or some flea powder in the bag of your

vaccuum cleaner, the vet told me, you keep the vaccum bag from being a

nice warm place for more fleas to breed.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Matt <mrr@spherica.demon.co.uk>

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: "NightOwl (Sandi Drosdeck)" <sdd@si1.dod.gov.au>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 11:29:56 +1000



Matt wrote:

> 

> Some friends of mine and I are interested to hear from anybody who has

> successfully managed to rid their house and cats of fleas, without using

> industrial chemical pesticides.

> 

> We are looking for some sort of herbal solution that could be prepared at

> home. One clue so far is that Geraniums (I think...) naturally contain

> pyrethrins, ie. chemicals toxic to insect nervous systems.

> 

> Surely mama nature's got the answer?



Pennyroyal oil worked when I used it on my cats.



Sandi and the cats

(Zeppelin, Popov, Ekaterina and Pie)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: afelson@rainbow.rmii.com (Adam Felson)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 14:43:37 GMT



Get a flea comb and comb the fleas of your kitty every time you let him

in.  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.parasitology

Subject: Re: Flea banishing: is there a chemical-free way?

From: Edwards.Farleigh@btinternet.com (Janice Edwards)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 15:29:51 GMT



Lavender and mint leaves in the dog bed, lavender in ranse water of bath 

helps. Terebinth (essential oil)  good luck, Jan

In article <4tj1di$r5h@ccnet2.ccnet.com>, teixeira@ccnet.com says...

>

>Cedar chips,  Garlic,  Borax baths,  brewers yeast.  Keep the dirt wet.  

>Give the dog a bath once a week.  If all else fails, shoot the dog.  d8->

>

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cartilage restoration

From: sellers@psyber.com (Best Sellers)

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:09:57 GMT



Krispin Sullivan <krispin@crl.com> probably had a good

reason for writing:



>Excellent results with C 1,000-4,000 mg per day, unflavored gelatin 

>(Knox is ok but expensive) 2 tablespoons twice a day and a good 

>multi-mineral (cal-mag and all other RDA minerals) plus 6 mg boron.  May 

>take several months depending on current condition.  Adding (3) capsules 

>of regular strength cod liver oil increases efficacy.



I'd say that Kris[in has a fairly good start here, but there

are three things to be aware of:



1)  There are 70 minerals that have diseases linked directly

to their lack.  "Cal-mag and all other RDA minerals plus ...

boron" simply aren't enough.  (Ask yourself why dog food has

40 minerals added, rat chow has 28, but infant formula has

12, at best.)



2)  Tablets of any kind are unlikely to dissolve in the

stomach.  Test yours.  If it won't completely dissolve in

vinager within 30 minutes, it won't dissolve in your stomach

at all, and will end up in your sewage system intact.  



3)  Even if the tablet dissolves, the minerals may not be

readily absorbed in your system.  Your body absorbs

elemental minerals at no better than 12% (5% if you're over

40 or so).  Chelation improves this to about 40%.  On the

other hand, you will colloidal minerals (extremely fine

particals with a negative electrical charge suspended in a

liquid) at well over 90% (many cite 98% as the rate).  

______

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of 

opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. (1777)



I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of 

tyranny over the mind of man. (1800)  Thomas Jefferson



Whenever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found 

state education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure 

implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery. (1874) 

Benjamin Disraeli



Le





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cartilage restoration

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:22:00 -0600



This doesn't deal with knox gelatin, but I've heard that glucosamine 

sulfate (sp?) is very useful for rebuilding cartilage. Enzymatic Therapy 

makes a product called GS-500 that I've heard a lot of good things about.



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Heater <heater@spieg.interealm.com>

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cartilage restoration

From: Bob Holcombe <bob@tcac.com>

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 00:39:27 -0700



Heater wrote:

> 

> I sent an e-mail response, but in case I sent it to the wrong

> person...please post a copy of the gelatine formula to either this group

> (I'm sure many would benefit) or e-mail me a copy...THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH

> Heater@nexus.interealm.com

> 

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Heather Timmons

> 



I am getting reports back from people I know who have just started on a

formula that is supposed to have helped "thousands" of people. My friends

have been on it a few weeks and say their arthritis is getting better. One > >lady 

said her knee pain stopped in 10 days!

I understand it won't work in 15% of the cases.

As of today I can add another friend to the list. He says his back injury

from years ago is improving after just 4 weeks on this.



Gelatin (cartilage) gives the body the raw material to

rebuild the deteriorated cartilage. Calcium rebuilds the bone at the joint.

Other minerals in the formula also help the body repair itself.



Here's the recipe I assume you asked for.



DR. WALLACH'S TWICE-A-DAY RECIPE



        *To rebuild cartilage

        *To remineralize osteoporotic bones



A SIMPLE AND HIGHLY EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR:

        "Bone-To-Bone" Arthritis

        Degenerative Arthritis

        Osteoarthritis

        Osteoporosis

        Bell's Palsy

        Spinal Stenosis

        Vertigo

        Sports Injuries

        (Over 140 other conditions can also be treated with this simple

        twice-a-day recipe)



1.  To 5 to 6 oz. of calcium enriched Minute Maid orange juice...



2.  Add the contents of two 1/4 oz. envelopes of unsweetened, unflavored

    Knox gelatin... or take 4 gelatin capsules each time.



3.  Add 1 oz. liquid plant-derived colloidal Mineral Toddy containing

    all 72 minerals plus 1 oz. Total Toddy formula containing 16 vitamins

    and 18 free Amino Acids in a 60% Mineral Toddy base.



4.  Stir or shake vigorously and drink immediately.



5.  Also twice a day take 2 to 3 flax seed oil capsules which contain the

    3 essential Fatty Acids (EFA) to complete your intake of the 90

    nutrients every human body needs EVERY DAY!



* Find the answer to your health problems in the following books:

        Let's Play Doctor and RARE EARTHS

        by Dr. Joel Wallach, B.S., D.V.M., N.D.



The formula is from the DEAD DOCTORS DON'T LIE tape by Dr. Joel Wallach and has 

been proven by Harvard Medical School.

In Harvard's test, 29 arthritis patients who had tried every medical treatment and 

were facing joint replacement surgery, agreed to wait 90 days more and try this 

formula. It worked for 28 of the 29 patients. In 10 days their pain and 

inflammation were gone. In 30 days they could open a pickle jar that had never 

been opened. In 90 days they had maximum return of function.



Hope this helps,

Bob





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: PMS

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 1 Aug 1996 04:18:17 GMT





Kent and Kat Dyer <kdyer@nash.tds.net> wrote:

>What does menopause have to do with premenstrual syndrome?

>

>Kat



Menopause and PMS are the same in terms of hormonal changes.  Many women 

describe perimenopause (the years of transition before the hormone levels 

have stabilized) as having PMS 3 weeks a month or all the time.  They 

share the decrease in estrogens and the changes in *ratios* of the 

various hormones.



The suggestion that you read Dr. Lee's book is great - I heartily agree.



dn



gprell@compuall.com (George Prell) wrote:

>Kat - Dr. Lee's book is 372 pages (with 96 references from the literature)

>and has an excellent description of the female reproductive system 

>starting with puberty.  The title is really not inclusive enough.  In his 40 

>year practice, he found that some women had anovolatory cycles due 

>to stress and excess estrogen in pre-menopause. He was able to treat 

>PMS and many other bad effects of "estrogen dominance syndrome" 

>by having women take NATURAL progesterone supplements during the 

>later part of their cycle when progesterone should be produced by their 

>ovaries after ovulation.  Low progesterone levels were associated a much 

>higher incidence of cancer in a 20 year study done at Johns Hopkins 

>reported in 1981. I really can't do this book justice - you have to read it 

>for yourself.  

>









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: newflesh@digital.world

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Wanted: Natural Soap

From: @uwec.edu

Date: 1 Aug 1996 05:06:17 GMT



Here is a basic soap recipe I adapted from one I found on the web (Walton 

Feed page, I think).



10 cups rendered beef fat (quite often free at butcher shop)

12 oz Red Devil lye

2 pints rain water



In an enamel ware or stainless steel pan melt fat and bring to 125 

degrees F.

In another stainless steel pan put 2 pints of rain water,slowly mix lye 

into water,use wooden spoon or stick to stir with).

Allow lye water to cool to 95 degrees F.

When the fat and the lye are at the right temp, slowly pour the lye into 

the fat, stir slowly for 10 to 20 minutes. Then pour soap into a mold for 

overnight (plastic dishpan works well). I put a folded towel under the 

pan and a couple around it then put a piece of cardboard on top to hold 

the heat.

About 24 hours later cut the soap with a knife and take it out of the 

dishpan. Set the pieces apart so that air can get to each bar. Put in a 

warm dry place for 2 or 3 weeks to cure, then put in a plastic bucket 

with lid to store it.



I just made my second batch using the above recipe, makes a white, mild 

soap. I use it for washing my hair and bathing. I like it unscented. One 

thing I noticed is that when I wash even an old colored garment (jeans, 

T-shirt, etc.) that has been washed many times, color bleeds out.



Cost was about 2 dollars for the lye, fat was free, made a bunch of soap.



Bill



cookliwj@uwec.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Wanted: Natural Soap

From: MARGIE KRICK <mk95528@navix.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 06:59:35 -0700



Hi;



Get yourself six pounds of potash, four pounds of lard and one-quarter 

pound of pine resin. Break up the resin, mix all the ingredients together 

and let the batch set for five days. Then put the whole schmeer into a 

10-gallon cask of warm water and stir twice a day for 10 days. That's all 

there is to it.

Maybe split this up a little and use a five gallon plastic bucket instead 

of looking all over for a ten gallon cask. 



Margie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Wanted: Natural Soap

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 17:44:42 GMT



Get "The Natural Soap Book", ISBN 0-88266-888-9. You'll find lots of 

recipes for vegetable-based soaps (no animal products). Easy to make, 

and pretty much foolproof (if you follow the directions).



Here's an important tip: Use weights and not volumes to measure your 

fats, water & lye. Using volume can throw off the proportion so that 

you will use too much lye and your soap will be very harsh. 



Good luck! Feel free to email me if you have more questions: I'm 

making a bunch of test batches, I've calculated amounts to fill a 9" 

x 9" baking pan (about 12 small soap bars to give away for people to 

test).



Linda

gladius@portal.ca







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Wanted: Natural Soap

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 96 05:35:31 GMT



I forgot to tell you the author's name: it's Susan Miller Cavitch. 

It's a great book!



Linda



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Wanted: Natural Soap

From: vwinter@aol.com (VWinter)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 04:48:13 -0400



There is a new book out called "Soaps, Shampoos, and Other Suds" by Kelly

Reno, that may be helpful...:)

Susie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anybody ever hear about this? (Blue Green Algae)

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 07:01:10 GMT



In <4tmi4p$n35@news.internetmci.com> catcagle@TurboNet.com (Cathleen

Cagle) writes: 

>

>laura@isp.nwu.edu (Laura Bryannan) encrypted:

>

>>Any green food will be healthy and healing to the body. 

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

>ANY green food??  I seem to remember Esta being blasted not that long

>ago for not citing references, warnings, recommended doses, etc.  

>

>Let's see, what green "foods" can we think of that are TOXIC?!

>

>Just because it's "natural" doesn't mean it's healthy/good for

>you/non-toxic!

>

>Regarding the "Super Blue-green Algae," I've read some of the reports

>on it (not the advertising hype).  It's not something I would

>willingly ingest.  

>

>Cat

>

Can you tell me what reports you've read?  Do you know of any homepages

on Blue Green Algae?  I have a friend who's going to go into it and I

am looking for information of any kind.  Thank you. 



Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anybody ever hear about this? (Blue Green Algae)

From: gb6@aol.com (GB6)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 06:02:53 -0400



I took that about 4 years ago, and I felt like I wasted my money.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Johnny's Selected Seeds Open House

From: johnnys952@aol.com (Johnnys952)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 07:02:52 -0400



If your planning to be in Maine on August 10 you are invited to join our

open house in Albion at the farm! Speakers will include Rob

Johnston,Johnny's founder & CEO, Eliot Colemam, Barbara Damrosch, Authors

and TV personaities, and Deb Soule, herbalist and owner of Avena

Botanicals. For details see our web site at:http://www.johnnyseeds.com or

write to us at staff@johnnyseeds.com.

Hope to see you there!l



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: James di Paulo <jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Acacia Sassafras Extract

From: Jim Almon <aroma@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 11:26:59 +0000



James, I am confussed about your saying sassafras being banned by the 

FDA, we stock and sell openly the raw herb cut/sifted and powderized.

Please let me know more about this being banned as my suppliers no 

nothing of this either. Thanks for you time

Jim Almon/owner

Aromatherapy Bath & Body

http://home.earthlink.net/~aroma/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Acacia Sassafras Extract

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 1 Aug 1996 18:52:14 GMT



In <32009483.1751@earthlink.net> Jim Almon <aroma@earthlink.net>

writes: 

>

>James, I am confussed about your saying sassafras being banned by the 

>FDA, we stock and sell openly the raw herb cut/sifted and powderized.

>Please let me know more about this being banned as my suppliers no 

>nothing of this either. Thanks for you time



I have no first hand information (from the FDA), however, quoting from

"Herbs that Heal" by Michael Weiner, Ph.D. (ISBN No. 0-912845-11-2)

published 1994;` on page 290, second paragraph...  Out of context, OK,

the thing is way too long to type it all in... 



"In the early 1960's it was found that safrole, when fed to rodents in

their diet, resulted in liver damage, and more specifically, liver

cancer, in a high percentage of animals. This caused the U.S. Food and

Drug Administration to phrobit the sale of asfrole containing

materials, such as Sassafras root bark, for use in foods and flavors.

However, despite an official ban, Sassafras root and root bark remain

an item of commerce in the United States and is still widely used."



Notice it says FOR USE IN FOODS and FLAVORS, nothing about uses such as

aromatherapy, herbal medications, etc. I recently, no a couple of years

ago, bought a small bottle of "Gumbo File" (ground sasafrass leaves for

use in making chicken and shrimp gumbo) in the grocery, but who knows

how many years it may have been there. <smile>



That is the only reference I seem to have handy. I suppose one could

check the FDA web pages, http://www.fda.gov/  (I think.)



Hope this helps, BTW... what the hell IS ACACIA SASSAFRAS EXTRACT,

anyway????   <smile>



James









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Acacia Sassafras Extract

From: jgetting@ix.netcom.com

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 96 15:29:07 GMT



You can still sell the herb, however, I believe the safrole has been leached.  

I don't like the cut root that I've been able to buy because of this. "The 

U.S.Food and Drug Administration lists sassafras oil as unsafe because of 

determinations that the safrole in the oil is a potential carcinogen."  I 

reference Reader's Digest "Magic and Medicine of Plants."  The book has a 

copyright date of 1986.  The book also states, "Because of the designation as 

"unsafe," the bark is no longer sold or used commercially, nor should it be 

used by anyone."  My son used to dig me some Sassafras root and I used it to 

make the best tea.  I've bought the cut root at Whole Food, here in Austin, 

Texas, however, much of the taste is gone, and there is a statement of some 

sort as to the oil being removed, I believe.  I haven't bought it in awhile, 

except to use in potpourri.



Carolyn,

just an old Texas Gal.



-----------------------------Reply Separator---------------------------------

On 8/1/96 6:26AM, in message <32009483.1751@earthlink.net>, Jim Almon 

<aroma@earthlink.net> wrote:



> James, I am confussed about your saying sassafras being banned by the 

> FDA, we stock and sell openly the raw herb cut/sifted and powderized.

> Please let me know more about this being banned as my suppliers no 

> nothing of this either. Thanks for you time

> Jim Almon/owner

> Aromatherapy Bath & Body

> http://home.earthlink.net/~aroma/







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Acacia Sassafras Extract

From: mrr@spherica.demon.co.uk (Matt)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 02:18:00 GMT



In article <32009483.1751@earthlink.net>,

   Jim Almon <aroma@earthlink.net> wrote:

|James, I am confussed about your saying sassafras being banned by the 

|FDA, we stock and sell openly the raw herb cut/sifted and powderized.

|Please let me know more about this being banned as my suppliers no 

|nothing of this either. Thanks for you time

|Jim Almon/owner



Dear All,



I have also heard that Sassafras products are banned from distribution in 

Britain, due to liver cancer reports by the US FDA. It was previously used in 

a tonic by a famous London herbal shop, who were forced to stop including it 

for this reason.



So what's the fuss about?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sinus Problems

From: Jim Tudor <jtudor@sprynet.com>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:33:08 -0400



Optahealth wrote:

> 

> In article <4ru1iv$1qn@juliana.sprynet.com>, jtudor@sprynet.com (Jim

> Tudor) writes:

> 

> > have a terible time with sinus problems. I have been told that I am

> >allergic to my two cats.

> >I have been taking a good herble multi vitamine now for 3 weeks.

> >Any suggestions would be helpfull.

> >

> >

> 

> I too am allergic to cats among other things. I am currently getting

> allergy shots from my immunologist. These can take a long time to be

> effective and success varies with the person. Also taking extra vitamin C

> can be helpful, I personnaly take 2000mg divided in two daily doses. It

> also may help to see if your thyroid is functioning properly by taking

> your temperature at least 3 times a day including just as you wake up and

> before you go to bed. Anything under 98.0 might indicate poor thyroid

> function which can affect allergies. Hope this helps. Feel free to e-mail

> with questions.

> 

> Jeff Yentzer

> Optimum Health Newsletter

> http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



Jeff

	I have really noticed a big difference since I started to use American

Ginseng 550 mg. I still sneeze and have some sinus problems, but only

about 5% of what I was experiencing.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sinus Problems

From: Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM>

Date: 6 Aug 1996 02:14:09 GMT



Jim,



   I tried to post before but did not finish my message.  I too am 

allergic to cats and a whole multitude of other thinks.  I have 

heard that garlic pills help a little from a friend of mine.  Also 

I have noticed that if i bath my cats at least once or twice a 

month and brush them a few times a week it really helps. 



Patty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sinus Problems

From: Jim Tudor <jtudor@sprynet.com>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 09:48:01 -0400



Patricia Turrell wrote:

> 

> Jim,

> 

>    I tried to post before but did not finish my message.  I too am

> allergic to cats and a whole multitude of other thinks.  I have

> heard that garlic pills help a little from a friend of mine.  Also

> I have noticed that if i bath my cats at least once or twice a

> month and brush them a few times a week it really helps.

> 

> Patty



Thanks Patty



	I have been taking American Gensing for the past month, and I can

hardly believe the difference. My Sinus problems are down by 90%



Jim



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Treatment for Gout

From: Nathan Schwartz <schwartz@startext.net>

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:37:39 -0500



Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I 

am  seeking something that will reduce the symptoms over time, but if 

there is such a thing, I'd like to find a way to significantly reduce either 

the pain or the swelling quickly.



I appreciate any help offered.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: eee@netcom.com (Mark Thorson)

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:38:13 GMT



In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.960801073421.6077A-100000@lepton>,

Nathan Schwartz  <schwartz@startext.net> wrote:

>Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I 

>am  seeking something that will reduce the symptoms over time, but if 

>there is such a thing, I'd like to find a way to significantly reduce either 

>the pain or the swelling quickly.



Colchicine from the root of the crocus has long been used as

a treatment for gout, however I wouldn't self-medicate with

that because of possible toxic effects.  I've had gout lots

of times, and I would suggest 1) eliminate meat, cheese, and

eggs from the diet, and 2) drink lots of water, eat lots of soup,

etc.  Most important is to take action early, at the first sign

of gout.









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: Jinjer <cuncaphe@isd.net>

Date: 11 Aug 96 20:23:52 GMT



Another possible herb to try is the common landscape plant called snow 

on the mountain. This is a ground cover that is often varigated white 

and green but is sometimes solid green. It is a member of the parsley 

family and puts up an umbrell shaped flower head in late spring. An old 

name for it is goutweed or bishop's weed (since bishops so often had 

gout).







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:12:34 GMT



Nathan Schwartz <schwartz@startext.net> wrote:



>Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I 

>am  seeking something that will reduce the symptoms over time, but if 

>there is such a thing, I'd like to find a way to significantly reduce either 

>the pain or the swelling quickly.



>I appreciate any help offered.



Drink a tea made with uva ursi and goldenrod or dandelion

root; also  chapararral (if you can find it) two tablets

every three to four hours.  20 drops of echinacea tincture

are said to easy the pain and will clean the kidneys,



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: vandy@avana.net (Vandy Terre)

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 17:53:05 GMT



On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:37:39 -0500, Nathan Schwartz

<schwartz@startext.net> wrote:



>Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I 

>am  seeking something that will reduce the symptoms over time, but if 

>there is such a thing, I'd like to find a way to significantly reduce either 

>the pain or the swelling quickly.

>

>I appreciate any help offered.



Have you tried eating raw cabbage?  That was a middle ages cure for

gout.  Gout is usually caused by too high protein diet.  Adding

vegetables high in bulk and low in protein should reduce symptoms,

IMO.



Do you have access to any herbals?  The public library usually has a

few available.  If all else fails, I have the web address for my

wholesale book supplier.  They may be able to help you contact a book

store in your area.  I will do mail order if there are  no stores in

your area.  I do not do much mail order business, by choice at the

moment.



Vandy Terre

vandy@avana.net

Georgia, USA



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: vandy@avana.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: Wolfgang Schmidt <wschmidt@awinc.com>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:44:40 -0700



Vandy Terre wrote:

> 

> On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:37:39 -0500, Nathan Schwartz

> <schwartz@startext.net> wrote:

> 

> >Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I



> Have you tried eating raw cabbage?  That was a middle ages cure for

> gout.  Gout is usually caused by too high protein diet.  Adding



I looked into my reference library and the best I could come up with is

"Ground Elder" (Aegopodium podagraria) also called Goutweed.

In ancient times this herb was used for gout. The name comes from

"aigos" meaning goat in Greek and podos which is foot in Latin and

podagra which is also Latin and stands for gout.



Hope you are successful with this stuff. - For immediate pain relief

check the home page in my signature.



Good Luck



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Treatment for Gout

From: Gina Brown <jpink@flash.net>

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:16:44 +0000



Nathan:



I drink an aloe vera and herb drink. A friend of mine started his mother 

drinking it everyday along with a product called Muscle-eez which helps 

with swelling and pain. (she may have used that for something else, I'm 

not sure). He said she doesn't have severe pain anymore and that she 

doesn't have periods where she can't get out of bed anymore. You might 

give it a try. Call 817-467-2269 for information on the drink and the 

Muscle-eez.



Gina



Nathan Schwartz wrote:

> 

> Can anyone suggest an effective herbal treatment for gout.  Of course, I

> am  seeking something that will reduce the symptoms over time, but if

> there is such a thing, I'd like to find a way to significantly reduce either

> the pain or the swelling quickly.

> 

> I appreciate any help offered.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: new to the group

From: "richard or heather rudnicki" <rudnicki@inav.net>

Date: 1 Aug 1996 15:23:40 GMT



i also just got into herbs, and  learned about valerian on this newsgroup a

few weeks ago.  i tried it as a tea in the evening and managed to quit my

tylenol pm habit.  i'm happy with it.  smelly, though.  try it with mint. 

or maybe get capsules.



heather      



Judy <Glamdais@pop3.cris.com> wrote in article

<31FF0090.6C71@pop3.cris.com>...

> Hi All--

> 

> I'm just starting to explore herbs so I was really glad to find this 

> group.  I can already tell I have a lot to learn!

> 

> I would like to hear about experiences with valerian root.  This has been



> recommended to me for anxiety and insomnia.  From what I've read it seems



> safe and non-toxic and lots better than taking a benzo drug.

> 

> Any experiences?

> 

> Judy

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: spastic colon

From: gdes5@aol.com (GDeS5)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 11:49:08 -0400



peppermint and lemon balm helps calm the digestive system



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: spastic colon

From: Gina Brown <jpink@flash.net>

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:24:57 +0000



I drink an aloe vera and herb drink that's the best thing I've tried for 

my spastic colon. I don't have any problems anymore! I can eat whatever 

I want. It also healed a stomach ulcer some years back.



I order the drink mail order: 817-467-2269.



GDeS5 wrote:

> 

> peppermint and lemon balm helps calm the digestive system



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any herbs that will repel mice?

From: gdes5@aol.com (GDeS5)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 11:49:25 -0400



Try southerwood, tansy and when all fails I use a small amount of mothball

crystals which works well- not the best eviormental choice but effective.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any herbs that will repel mice?

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 00:33:59 GMT



Deborah (deerfld@sover.net) wrote:

: I hate to kill the poor little critters, but might have to put out the

: ol' Decon...any natural ideas?

: Thanks

: Deb

: 



Snakes are quite effective.  I have put several black racers in my 

basement and crawl-space.  I have not seen a mouse since.



Jim:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any herbs that will repel mice?

From: T E I X E I R A <teixeira@ccnet.com>

Date: 2 Aug 1996 16:09:05 GMT



This is not an herb......but if you put steel wool in the areas that mice 

get in the will stay away.



DT







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: odco@xmission.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any herbs that will repel mice?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 17:43:16 GMT



Deb,

Please don't use the decon...I lost a really great Tom cat like 

that...he ate a mouse that some one had fed decon to  and died a 

horrible death....why dontch get a cat or two??







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Poison Ivy Cure?

From: gdes5@aol.com (GDeS5)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 11:49:46 -0400



fresh jewelweed applied directly works well. You can also use a blender

and freeze into cubes and use as needed.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Poison Ivy Cure?

From: Spijder <spijder@mail.snet.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:51:18 -0700



I myself (extremely allergic) have a system that works amazingly well... 

If I know that I have touched, brushed up against or otherwise gotten too 

close to poison ivy, I immediately wipe the area off with crushed 

jewelweed stalk, I haven't had a poison ivy blister in 4 years.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cedar Berries

From: MARGIE KRICK <mk95528@navix.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 09:31:30 -0700



> >What do cedar berries do?

> 

> Cedar berries are supposed to be good for the pancreas, and can help

> diabetics.

> --

> Trip Martin   | Harry Browne, libertarian for president

> tm@squonk.net | http://www.harrybrowne96.org/



I have heard that raw string beans is good for this too! I suppose 

juicing you could really get and amount.









margie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,sci.med

Subject: Re: Zapper Tips

From: cfbd@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite)

Date: 1 Aug 1996 19:35:29 GMT



turf (turf@mindspring.com) wrote:

>In article <4tion6$ekd@orm.southern.co.nz>, cfbd@southern.co.nz says...



>>So are there any controlled studies with positive or negative results ?

>>The Zapper is clearly something that can be scientifically tested and

>>evaluated.



>You are absolutely correct.  And I would undertake those tests.

>I kinda doubt I could talk a pharmaceutical company, the AMA, 

>or the (US) government into financing  me.  Will you?



Regrettably I have only resources available to finance the proverbial

Church Mouse.



I would have thought some University might be interested on a limited

scale because the Zapper is something that can be readily evaluated

in controlled conditions by scientific methods.



However, if Zappers do actual harm to users then I can see there

would be a reluctance to put them to the test.



Bye,



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Zapper Tips

From: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:34:50 -0700



Stephen Dunn wrote:

> 

> In article <4tk66f$1jp4@mule2.mindspring.com>,

> turf <turf@mindspring.com> wrote:

> :In article <4tion6$ekd@orm.southern.co.nz>, cfbd@southern.co.nz says...

> :

> :>So are there any controlled studies with positive or negative results ?

> :>The Zapper is clearly something that can be scientifically tested and

> :>evaluated.

> :

> :You are absolutely correct.  And I would undertake those tests.

> :I kinda doubt I could talk a pharmaceutical company, the AMA,

> :or the (US) government into financing  me.  Will you?

> 

> Actually for cancer, you don't need randomized studies as cures can easily

> be documented and do not occur at an appreciable rate in the abscence of

> effective treatment. Too bad Hulda's documentation of her cases in the

> "Cure for All Cancers" is so pathetic that no reasonable informed reader

> could give them ANY credence. But maybe you can do better - and it could

> be done without a lot of money as a start, as many patients under

> oncological care recieve follow-up studies which would document regression

> of cancer should such occur. The only problem is that it would not be

> ethical to have patients take this treatment as primary care since there

> is no evidence for it at all - except perhaps for patients who have

> elected to have no treatment because no conventional treatment exists.



I know of such a patient.  One of the phlebotomists who used to draw my blood

while I spent 4 mos. in ICU has had cancer that was diagnosed 4 years ago.

She has had chemotherapy without sucess and now has chosen no treatment,

except for surgery to remove malignancies.  Any mfr of a Clark or Beck device

who wishes to have it tested can email me.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Zapper Tips

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 20:02:30 EST



Zapper Tips



Brian McInturff (turf@mindspring.com)                     30 Aug 96



From "Topics in Modern Naturopathy", copyright 1996





Here are the quick and dirty instructions for getting the most out

of a zapper:  



---------------------------------------------------



USE SALTWATER to wet the paper towels around the 

handholds. Don't let them dry out during zapping.



CONNECT PINS 1 AND 8 correctly on the 555 chip if you 

build your own zapper.



DON'T just zap across the hands. Occasionally zap across 

the feet and from hand to foot.



-----------------------------------------------------





The zapper is a circuit described by Hulda Clark in "The 

Cure for all Diseases."  It is a simple 555 timer circuit 

powered by a 9V battery. Clark states that the zapper is 

effective in killing bacteria, parasites, fungi, and 

viruses in the body.  According to her:  It causes no 

damage to the body.  It does not work well in cavities, 

like under some teeth and in nasal passages, nor in the 

contents of the stomach and intestines.  It does not work 

inside the body's cells, since it does not harm them. Any 

viruses or fungi which are inside will not be killed, so 

daily zapping is necessary to catch any that may be 

released from the cells, as well as any that may not be 

reached in the intestines. 



Clark gives idiotproof instructions the zapper 

construction in a shoe box using $20 worth of Radio Shack 

parts.  There is no soldering or electronics knowledge 

necessary for construction.



She also gives the schematic in "The Cure for all 

Diseases", BUT IT IS DRAWN INCORRECTLY, with the battery 

upside down and one of the capacitors shown the wrong 

value.  Following or reading the idiotproof instructions 

and parts list will indicate the correct value for the 

capacitor and the polarity of the battery.  The idiotproof 

instructions are correct.  



If one follows the schematic given in the book, the 

connections for the power and ground on the chip ARE 

ASSUMED.  You must connect pin 1 to ground and pin 8 to 

the SWITCHED rail.  Do not connect pin 8 to the positive 

terminal of the battery or power will be applied to the 

chip even when the zapper is off.



Radio Shack once carried 555 CMOS chips but no longer 

does.  The TTL ones they do sell are acceptable, but it is 

better to use a CMOS 555.  Call electronic supply houses 

to find one.  TTL chips are rated for a power supply of 

only 5 volts, but since this is a linear chip, it will not 

burn out using a 9V supply.  The TTL 555 will cause the 

battery to deplete faster since it consumes more power than

a CMOS.



Super-high brightness LEDS consume less power than the 

low-power Radio Shack LEDS and are brighter.  Although 

they can be hard to find, they are rarely as expensive as 

the specified Radio Shack parts.  



In "The Cure for all Disease", Hulda Clark specifies 3/4" 

x 4" copper pipes for handholds.  1" diameter copper pipes 

are available at some building supply stores, like Home 

Depot, instead of the 3/4" pipes. Although it is 

expensive, 1" pipe is much more comfortable to hold, and 

provides a larger surface area, decreased resistance, and 

more current.  For a 1" pipe, put a 1.25 x 10/24 SS bolt 

through one end to attach the alligator clips.  Cut it to 

5" instead of 4" for those with large hands.



Bob Beck (of high-voltage HIV "zapper" fame) specifies 

homemade electrodes on the wrists or ankles as being most 

effective in getting rid of HIV in the blood.  My research 

and experimentation shows that copper handholds are most 

effective in decreasing body resistance to the current, 

and therefore more current flows.  It may not flow as well 

through the blood with this method, but could work better 

in the interstitial fluids in the body, as well as through 

the bones.  I think the best method probably uses both of 

these techniques.



Hulda Clark specifies to use copper handholds. Her 

instructions are to zap for 7 minutes, wait 20 minutes.  

This kills any larger parasites like worms in the body 

according to her, as well as any free bacteria, viruses, 

and such.  Then on another 7 minutes followed by another 

20 minute break.  This is to kill any bacteria and viruses 

which were inhabiting the body of the larger parasites.  

Then a final 7 minutes on.  This mops up any viruses which 

were inhabiting the bacteria.  This is a total of 61 

minutes.  It is necessary to do this daily for at least a 

month to clear chronic pathogens.  The body's cells are 

not harmed by the zapper, so any viruses, fungi, and such 

which are inside the cells will be gotten eventually.  

Afterwards, zapping once a week is all that is necessary 

except in the case of serious disease, where Clark 

recommends daily until better since it is so easy to pick 

up parasites and other pathogens.  NEVER zap for only one 

7 minute session.  Always do the full regimen of three.



There are a number of places that sell the zapper on the 

net.  I found them by doing a websearch on "zapper".  They 

state that the zapper is for experimental purposes only 

and not for use on humans.  The FDA allows one to build 

medical devices for oneself or research legally.



As soon as one completes building or buying a zapper, 

bring it and a multimeter to have it tested on an 

oscilloscope.  I have an old, cheap Radio Shack multimeter 

that cost $15.  Home Depot sells one for about $11.



An electronics shop that fixes TVs, computers, stereos, 

etc, would have a scope.  Call and make sure they won't 

charge more than a few dollars to display the output of 

the circuit.  It should take two to three minutes.  Ensure 

that it produces a square wave of 0 to [7.5 to 9] volts at 

15 to 45 KHz (nominally 30K but a wide range is okay and 

the tolerance of cheap electronic parts at Radio Shack 

will lead to a good bit of variance).



Just after that, put the multimeter on VDC and measure the 

output. Note it by writing it on the bottom of the 

zapper.  Then, measure on Vac and note that value, too.  

The positive (red) lead of the multimeter must be attached 

to the positive output of the circuit to read correctly.  

When the positive lead of the zapper is determined, it is 

best to mark it (+) and the other (-) to facillitate 

further checks, and perhaps for other reasons.



My cheap multimeter reads 4.5 VDC, and 8 Vac for the output 

of a zapper I built.  A good multimeter, like a Fluke, 

would read differently for volts AC, more like 0.25 to 

0.50 Vac.  As long as the output checked out correctly on 

the oscope, there are no correct values, just what the 

particular multimeter reads.  This is for comparison, and 

can tell one when the output degrades or ceases.  Of 

course, the same multimeter must always be used.  This 

will not tell if the output is still producing a square 

wave, but is a very good insurance measure since it is 

very unlikely that it will still produce output at the 

same AC and DC levels if something goes wrong.



Check with the multimeter once a week across the 

handholds.  Ensure that the voltages are at least 60-75% 

of the original values.  If it is less, change the 

battery. Especially in the homebuilt version, checking 

with a multimeter weekly is crucial.  Even if the output 

LED is lit, this is not a 100% guarantee that there is 

output at the handholds.



Most zappers sold on the market now, like the most popular 

one made by Sota Instruments, come with a battery low 

light.  When the battery voltage drops below a certain 

level, like 6V, the light comes on and one should replace 

the battery.  HOWEVER, this does not ensure that there is 

voltage on the handholds.  There could be a break in a 

lead wire, for example.  So, if one does not have a 

multimeter to check the output, touch the copper pipes to 

either side of the tongue weekly.  It will feel 

unpleasant, like touching a 9V battery to the tongue.  



If one is building them, one could do as I do and use a 

passive output checker (built onto the same board).  It is 

a circuit separate from the zapper proper composed of a 

zener diode, a standard diode, and a resistor attached to 

conductive board standoffs and a second LED.  Then, the 

output pipes or clips or pads can be touched to the board 

standoffs which protrude from the back of the case to 

perform a battery level check (use a 5V or so zener), as 

well as to ensure output.



Paper towels should be used to cover the handholds when in 

use.  Using copper pipes with more than one layer of wet 

paper towel around them for handholds is less effective.  

Clark instructs to use a single strip of wet paper towel 

wrapped around the handholds, but I have noticed that some 

people ignore the single layer advice and wrap a lot of 

paper towel around the handhold.



One can check the resistance through multiple and single 

layers of paper towel wet with tap water.  It is quite 

high, depending on the mineral content of the water.  For 

my tap water supply, with two layers of thick paper towel 

(like Bounty), the resistance is over 50K.  Double that 

for two handholds to 100K, and the amount of attenuation 

of the current from the zapper is extreme.  Thin paper 

towels like Viva have much less resistance when wet.



Distilled water has a much higher resistance than tap 

water, so is much worse to wet the handholds. Grasping the 

copper handholds directly is not recommended by Clark 

because of the potential to absorb the metal through the 

skin.  This also leads to variable resistance since it 

depends on the salt and moisture present on the palms.  

Clean, dry palms would not be very good in transmitting 

the current.  Callouses on the hands further diminish the 

transmission of current.



I recommend adding potassium and sodium salts to the water 

used to wet the paper towel to increase effectiveness.  

Use 2 tablespoon or more Morton Lite Salt per 16 oz water 

(use less water and salt if the solution will only be used 

once).  Add an ounce of vodka for a disinfectant if 

desired.  Always, keep the paper wraps wet during the time 

the zapper is being used.



It is also effective to zap across the feet.  This can be 

done in a number of ways, including using EKG/ECG/TENS 

pads or modified ESD wrist straps.  I have seen the pads 

at health care products stores. Good ESD wrist straps are 

available at finer electronics or computer stores (not 

Radio Shack which only sells crappy ones).  It is best to 

zap across the feet with the copper pipes, however.  This 

can be done by wearing rubber "flip-flops" and placing the 

wrapped pipes between the feet and the flops.  This 

prevents the saltwater from getting on the floor, as well 

as current shunting.



ESD straps could be made into decent electrodes for the 

zapper.  3M makes good ones that cost $10 each and are 

convenient since they have a coiled, soft cord with an 

adjustable elastic band.  Two, of course, are necessary.  

It is necessary to remove the 1M or so resistor that is 

built into the straps.  It might be hard to even determine 

where the resistor is.  On the 3M straps, it is molded 

into the snap portion.  To use these, it would be 

necessary to drill out the resistor and fill with solder, 

egs.  Then, there are metal pads against the skin.  Since 

it could be over the wrist, this is better than dry copper 

pipes in the hands, but still not good.  Putting the 

salted tap water on the wrist with these make a good 

conductor into the body, but leach some of the metal.  

Best would be to dip a gauze pad into saltwater and place 

that between the strap plates and skin.



There are a number of different TENS pads.  Some look like 

a rubber sheet, some have leads attached, some are glued, 

some are plain. Some are disposable and come in sheets of 

100.  None of them are cheap, but the nice ones will last 

for months if reasonable care is taken.



Preglued TENS pads can be used. No saltwater or gel is 

needed since the glue stays moist.  They can be applied 

anywhere on the body.  If the pads have pigtail wire 

connectors, and pins can not be found for the pads with 

leads, then it is necessary to cut the lead and strip it 

to attach the alligator clips.  Looping the bare wire and 

strapping down with electrical tape could make a nice loop 

with no bare-ended wires to poke for a good place to 

attach clips.  Or attach a lug connector on the wire to 

make connection easier.  When the glue loses stickiness, 

the pads can be moistened (some with water, some with 

[grain] alcohol]).  If the glue is totally gone, or was a 

non-glued pad, they can be held in place with a wrist 

sweat band, tape, or velcro.



TENS pads have high resistance, though.  It is best to use 

the copper pipe for the three 7 minutes sessions, and only 

use the TENS pads for special purposes, during the 20 

minutes breaks, although it is acceptable to use the 

copper pipes for seven minute sessions at the beginning 

and end of the hour, and the pads the entire time in 

between.



The best TENS pads to use are plain black rubber with no 

glue.  Place a saltwater-soaked gauze pad (or cloth) 

between it and the skin, then tape it down, or use a sweat 

band or other elastic material to hold in place.  If one 

could not hold handholds for whatever reason, this would 

be a good solution.  Use for one hour straight instead of 

the three 7 minute sessions.



To be able to use these different types of current 

applicators, like EKG pads, pipes, or straps, it is best 

if the output leads of the zapper are alligator clips.  

These are available at Radio Shack and are generally 

connected to wire with a screw.



Keep copper pipe handholds clean.  Use Scotch Brite or 

other scrub pad to remove green scale each week or so.  

This scale will stain, so it is probably best to wash 

handholds off with fresh water when necessary. One can 

leave the paper towels over the handholds between uses and 

they will dry.  After a few days of wetting with the 

saltwater, there is enough salt on the towels such that 

they may be wet with plain water only until they are 

replaced.



This is the general schedule for using the copper pipe 

handholds:





7 minutes hand to hand



  Wait 20 minutes



7 minutes foot to foot 



  Wait 20 minutes



7 minutes hand to hand





For very virulent maladies like candida, it is useful to 

alternate locations as specified above instead of merely 

going hand to hand for all three sessions.  Even this is 

not sufficient in some cases. Every other day it is best 

to do a hand to hand for 7 minutes, then a right hand to 

left foot the next 7 minutes, then left hand to right foot 

the next.



Be creative with TENS pads if used, too.  Use them on 

breaks for special purposes.  If one has thrush or feels a 

cold sore breaking out around the mouth, put the pads on 

the cheeks and zap for one of the breaks. If one has 

genital yeast, put the pads on the hips or upper thighs 

during one of the breaks.   If one has a yeast rash, zap 

with the pads on either side of the rash during the break. 





Comparison of Current Flow of Applicators



Here are the current flow values from using different 

types of applicators with a Hulda Clark zapper.  These 

were tested on myself, from wrist to wrist or hand to hand 

using 1" (x5") copper pipe handholds or TENS pads.  

Saltwater was made with approx 1t Morton's Lite Salt in 3 

ounces of tap water.



The values using plain (tap) water may be a bit high since 

I did the saltwater tests firsts, and although I dried 

(but did not wash) my hands afterwards, there was still 

some residual (Lite) salt.  Paper towels used were 

industrial-quality unbleached type that are used in paper 

towel dispensers, and appeared to have lower resistance 

than those used at home, like Bounty, so are better (but 

irrelevent when using saltwater).



There is great difference in handhold values depending on 

how tightly they are held.  Holding tightly can double the 

value vs holding loosely.  I tried to ensure that I used a 

constant, firm grip on all tests.  Even so, differences of 

50 microamps or less are likely insignificant because of 

lack of control of this variable.



The device used to check current was a Fluke multimeter.

All current values are in microamps.



Preglued TENS pads - 110 microamps



Plain TENS pads (black rubber) with saltwater-soaked layer 

of paper towel against wrist (held with scotch tape) - 220 



Tapwater soaked single layer of paper towel over copper 

pipes - 500



Tapwater soaked multi layer paper towel over pipes - 510



No paper towel, dry pipes - 540



Saltwater soaked single layer paper towel - 850



Saltwater soaked multi layer - 890





Previous tests done with standard Bounty and Viva paper 

towels over handholds showed that resistance increased 

(and current decreased) a great deal when multiple layers 

of paper towels were used with tap water.  These results 

indicate otherwise.  These towels apparently had less 

resistance.



Conclusion:  Use saltwater soaked paper towels in multi or 

single layer to cover copper zapper handholds.





Good Zapping.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Chromium Polynicotinate

From: glenb@xmission.com (Glen L. Bogue)

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:28:56 GMT



ddupree877@aol.com (DDupree877) wrote:



>Yes, a friend of mine is a distributor. I've taken it. Chromium is good

>for curbing the appetite and keeping your blood sugar from bottoming out.

>Everything in it is okay in moderate amounts. However, be aware that ma

>huang (and I don't believe all this crap about how it kills people every

>day) is a stimulant. It will jazz you up! My friend was taking two of

>these pill after breakfast and two after lunch. I was taking one at a

>time. One day I thought I'd take two to see if it worked better. Within

>the hour I found myself (driving down the interstate, no less) shaking all

>over and feeling like I was gonna jump out of my skin. 



Yes that can and does happen frequently.  There are two ways to handle

the jittery feelings Ma Huang can cause.  1) take less, thats why a

liquid form is prefered.  If it is in liquid form you can adjust it to

what you need.  That way you don't get to little and you don't get to

much.  2) Eat something, preferably something with a high carbohydrate

level.  Bread would be a good one.  The food in your body will make it

calm down.  Oh, and another option is to live with the jitters.  They

will subside within a week to four weeks.  I personally would prefere

to control my dose.



>BE CAREFUL WITH MA HUANG. And always remember 2 things about 

>herbs: 1) read about them before you ingest them. They are NOT harmless plants. 

>They are powerful plants.  Be an informed consumer. 2) LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. 

>Don't ignore weird feelings after taking anything - herbs or allopathic meds. Your body will

>tell you if it isn't right for you.



>By the way, I did not notice a quick weight loss, and my friend gained

>back every ounce she lost while on it.



Ma Huang and Chromium Picolinate can cause weight loss.  I also read a

study in a book called "The New Diet Pills" where they recommend

taking asprin and and caffeine (the equivelent of two cups of coffee)

for the best weight loss results.  I would be careful with the

caffeine though, since it tends to enhance the side effects of the Ma

Huang i.e. the jitters.  I know I have taken Ma Huang in Coke and it

was an exciting experience.  I felt like I could clean the celing fan

while it was on high.



Another note on the weight loss issue.  The combination of a Ma Huang

product and a Chromium Picolinate product helps to curb the appitite.

Once you don't crave the fats and junk food that most people are used

to take advantage of it.  That is the time to change your eating

habits and eliminate some of those bad foods from your diet.  If you

do that, then when you stop taking supplements the weight will stay

off.  That doesn't mean you will never want to take them again though.



Just my humble opinion,

Glen Bogue

glenb@xmission.com



----------------------------------------------------------------

Want to know how to lose weight, and feel good at the same time?

E-mail glenb@xmission.com for more info.  It has worked for me

and it can work for you.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: tucy514@prodigy.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: inflammatory arthritis need help!

From: I M Thomas <rbb90@dial.pipex.com>

Date: 1 Aug 1996 21:06:49 GMT



Why not try ginger? Take it as powdered ginger. It is 

anti-inflamatory and also by reputation cleans out the toxins. 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: inflammatory arthritis need help!

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:27:34 -0600



> In <4ti2v1$t88@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> TUCY51A@prodigy.com (Colotta

> Hudson) writes: 

> >

> >I want to go off traditional arthritis meds due to chemical



I have a few suggestions - but bear in mind that I don't have arthritis, 

so everything I know is from other people's experience. You could try 

Enzymatic Therapy's Armax (I know I recommend that company a lot, but I 

have a lot of faith in them and I trust their products. I promise I don't 

work for them! Plus, they're money-back guaranteed - what can you lose?). 

I've had people tell me the Armax is just wonderful, and there's also a 

good homeopathic arthritis remedy. For relief of chronic pain you might 

look into DLPA. It's an amino acid that kickstarts the body's own pain 

blockers (I believe they're called endorphins?). 



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: inflammatory arthritis need help!

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:43:07 GMT



In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960803012357.18622K-100000@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>,

   Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU> wrote:

>> In <4ti2v1$t88@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> TUCY51A@prodigy.com (Colotta

>> Hudson) writes: 

>> >

>> >I want to go off traditional arthritis meds due to chemical

>

>I have a few suggestions - but bear in mind that I don't have arthritis, 

>so everything I know is from other people's experience. You could try 

>Enzymatic Therapy's Armax (I know I recommend that company a lot, but I 

>have a lot of faith in them and I trust their products. I promise I don't 

>work for them! Plus, they're money-back guaranteed - what can you lose?). 

>I've had people tell me the Armax is just wonderful, and there's also a 

>good homeopathic arthritis remedy. For relief of chronic pain you might 

>look into DLPA. It's an amino acid that kickstarts the body's own pain 

>blockers (I believe they're called endorphins?). 

>

>-Elizabeth

>

>^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^

~

>Elizabeth Williams                               

will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu

>

Yucca root and alfalfa used in combination is good.One of my patients had 

great relief from this.If you have not had any problems with forming blood 

clots and aren't taking meds that may predispose you to clotting problems you 

should be okay with this.

Barbara     



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: inflammatory arthritis need help!

From: penny@neca.com (penny newbury)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 00:56:39 GMT



Old island remedy: raisins soaked in gin.  Not a cure, but relief.  And no

it's not just the gin.  Some sort of reaction happens.  Don't ask me what.

Hey, it can't hurt!!!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: old herbals

From: Gene Bilney <gb0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:23:23 -0500



I recently found some old medicine and herbals in a second hand

book store. The earliest is dated 1832. It is a treasure trove of

old receipes and what herbs and plants can be used (or claimed can

be used), some I have never heard about. Like using peach pits

and cherry stone pits, using rattlesnake oil for corns (I did not

know rattlesnakes had oil). Question is, are these things safe?

Aren't peach pits poisonous? Where does one get rattlesnake oil?

Sounds like this stuff comes from the Dark Ages. Maybe I should

post some and get everyone's opinion on this stuff. Thanks

-----------------------------------------------------------

*Timeflyer                    *gb0001@jove.acs.unt.edu

*Book collector               *Voracious reader

*Anglophile                   *Librarian extrordinaire

*Scotophile                   *Devotee of Gaia & Luna

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is

full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virture

there is; many persons strive for high ideals and every-

where life is full of heroism. Be yourself, especially, do

not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in

the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as 

perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years

gracefully surrendering the things of youth.  Ehrmann--1927

============================================================

















From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: natural diuretic

From: Leslie A Berridge <Leslie.A.Berridge@jpl.nasa.gov>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:24:33 -0700



can anyone suggest an herb to use as a diuretic?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Leslie.A.Berridge@jpl.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: natural diuretic

From: Janet Kessner <jankes@tuna.net>

Date: 2 Aug 1996 21:21:26 GMT



Red raspberry is pretty good.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: natural diuretic

From: Gail@escape.com (Gail Miller)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 08:45:27 -0400



In article <4ttrgm$r0t@news.ios.com>, Janet Kessner <jankes@tuna.net> wrote:



> Red raspberry is pretty good.

Dandelion leaves, raw in salad, as tea hot or cold, as an extract.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: jankes@tuna.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: natural diuretic

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 17:48:51 GMT



Dandelion Root (liquid extract) is great.....10 drops in a small glass 

of water...do it in the morning...if you do this late in the day you 

will be up all night







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: natural diuretic

From: jgetting@ix.netcom.com

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 96 15:09:03 GMT



Coffee is a good diuretic, course it has a few side effects.



-----------------------------Reply Separator---------------------------------

On 8/1/96 4:24PM, in message <32012091.68CA@jpl.nasa.gov>, Leslie A Berridge 

<Leslie.A.Berridge@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:



> can anyone suggest an herb to use as a diuretic?







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: The Guide to Aromatherapy Web pages are moving

From: Graham Sorenson <graham@fragrant.demon.co.uk>

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 23:36:36 +0100



The Guide to Aromatherapy Web pages will eventually be leaving their

current site. 



So I have taken the chance to redo a few of them and a new front end.

I hope you will like the new styles, and the new pages that are there.



Have a look at http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk for the new site.



Please, if you are linked to www.demon.co.uk/murderon/fragrant/ could

you change the urls in your pages 

Thanks





-- 

Graham Sorenson

http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Sage

From: Carol Sorgen <csorgen@delphi.com>

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 18:32:52 -0500



 

I'm moving into a new place in a few weeks and a friend of mine said

he heard somewhere that you should burn some sage in the new home to

bring in good luck, etc. Is this anything anyone knows about?

Carol



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sage

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 01:20:54 GMT



In <R-EwYKM.csorgen@delphi.com> Carol Sorgen <csorgen@delphi.com>

writes: 

>

> 

>I'm moving into a new place in a few weeks and a friend of mine said

>he heard somewhere that you should burn some sage in the new home to

>bring in good luck, etc. Is this anything anyone knows about?

>Carol



This practice is called smudging and is a traditional Native American

way of cleansing old energy.  You don't use culinary sage, but white

sage.  I buy it at a local alternative book store or grocery store. 

You can also use sagebrush if you live near a high plains desert (I

live in Oregon and east of the Cascade mountains there are Sagebrush

bushes).  They often sell smudgesticks made of the sagebrush. 



I was taught that the traditional way of smudging is to place the sage

into a shell, like a big oyster(?) shell.  They are usually about 6

inches by 4-5 inches?  Not small, though.  Then you light it with a

match, and blow out the flame.  You don't want it to burn, just smoke. 

You want a good amount of smoke to come out, more than a trickle.  



If you use a smudge stick you don't need the shell although you might

want to have something for the ashes to fall on.  Sometimes I just

light a piece of white sage and hold it by the stem.  I fan the smoke

around the places I want to cleanse, all the corners of the room, for

example.  It's also great to smudge yourself if you want to cleanse

your chakras, or if you've had a recent emotional upset and want to

clean out your energy field. 



I hope I didn't get too carried away in my description..!



Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sage

From: JPCL27A@prodigy.com (Helene Rudner)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 01:36:35 GMT



Sage is used to purify an area.  It also burns very easily and quickly. 

Please

be careful







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: csorgen@delphi.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sage

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 22:43:02 -0700



Carol Sorgen wrote:

> 

> 

> I'm moving into a new place in a few weeks and a friend of mine said

> he heard somewhere that you should burn some sage in the new home to

> bring in good luck, etc. Is this anything anyone knows about?

> Carol



Hi Carol,



As a practicing Wiccan, I always burn sage to purify ritualistic tools 

and jewelry used for magicakal workings to remove unwanted negative 

energies which may have been associated with them before I acquired them. 

 I also burn sage in every room of a new home.  I love the smell and I do 

believe in its protective effects.  I recommend that you do so before you 

even move any of your belongings into your new home.  Congratulations on 

your new home.



Blessed be,

Lykos



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Essiac Herbs?

From: bounty@cyberramp.net (Ed Bullard)

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 23:39:50 GMT



I recently ordered the herbs necessary to make Essiac. I have been

using the same company for three years and up until now I have been

satisfied with the quality of their product. This time however I

noticed that the Essiac did not look right when I was done cooking it.



Normally I would wind up with a pot full of a dark brown mud. This

time is was a pale tan and the consistency was not what I was used to.



I went ahead and pressed the solid out and was even more surprised.

Normally AI would get a very dark almost black liquid that flowed like

water but has an oily consistency. this time it was almost clear and

not oily at all.



I called the company two days ago and got a message saying that they

were real busy and I should leave a message and someone would call

back. So far no one has called. I am afraid to drink what I pressed

because there is obviously a problem with it.



Can anyone tell me if they have experienced changes in an herbal

product like this and yet still had the correct herbs? I am convinced

that the burdock root was not right and the slippery elm bark was not

up to snuff. 



Thanks,

ED





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Essiac Herbs?

From: Spijder <spijder@mail.snet.net>

Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 21:06:56 -0700



Ed Bullard wrote:



> I am convinced

> that the burdock root was not right and the slippery elm bark was not

> up to snuff.

> 

> Thanks,

> ED





Any, Any doubts whatsoever and you should just trash it and start over.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hives

From: jeff@rockvax.rockefeller.edu (Jeffrey Hayward)

Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 00:49:53 GMT



We are still looking for the cause.  I went through the skin tests

with one doctor, and of course reacted to each and every item I was

being tested for.  This went on for a period of 8 weeks.  After each

test I would get a severe case of the hives for about two day.  My

allergist felt that the hives were not an effect of the testing.  Yes

he was clueless, and I dropped him.  I do find that allergies(hay

fever), stress, heat, physical pressure, and food can all bring on a

case of the hives.  I actually think I found one item that may be

contributing to the problem, coffee.  Hadn't had any for a few day,

then when I did they started coming back.  I've been wondering about a

yeast/candida infection for a while.  Do do have 1 or two beers a day,

love bread, and have to have plenty of sugar/sweets.    Thanks again

for any help.



Jeff



schro@pipeline.com wrote:

>Sounds awfully painful. According to my Rodale's, an infusion of dock is

>still used externally in Appalachia for hives, but I don't know if you'd

>want to ingest it. Perhaps if we knew why? Allergies, stress, heat,

>disease? My Consumer Guide's Home Remedies Handbook says the cause is found

>only 20-30% of the time, but to make sure you don't have an underlying

>cause such as a tooth or yeast infection. If it's caused by stress (or even

>if the chronic pain is causing stress) there's quite a bit you can do. Fill

>us in, and I'll go back to my books. Had hives myself, but for 6 months! I

>can't imagine. Good luck. 

> 

>Laure Sturdevant 

>LSturde643@aol.com



--

Jeffrey Hayward

jeff@rockvax.rockefeller.edu

Computing Services

The Rockefeller University

1230 York Avenue

New York, NY  10021

(212) 327-7311

http://stepford.rockefeller.edu/webstuff/jeff.html





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Esta M Weiss <weiss@U.Arizona.EDU>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Borax

From: Jim Almon <aroma@earthlink.net>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 01:08:11 +0000



My best advice from a practical point of view is stay away from it, why 

would you want to use something on your skin that can strip paint?

Jim Almon

Aromatherapy Bath & Body

http://home.earthlink.net/~aroma/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Aloe Vera

From: leronis@worldnet.att.net (leronis)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 02:16:08 GMT



I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any long-term effects to

using aloe vera as a topical anti-bacterial for a skin condition.

Also, has anyone used it this way, and what were your results?



-- 

It should be noted that I have a tendency to play devil's advocate in order to advance a dialogue.  It would not, however, be safe to assume that that is the case here...





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Aloe Vera

From: drjawbone@aol.com (Drjawbone)

Date: 6 Aug 1996 18:18:02 -0400



Anyone know how aloe vera juice and gel is extracted from the plant?  Is

it crushed in a press?  This may be a stupid question, but I sure would

like to know.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Please Help

From: lori.nichols@f693.n104.z1.hms.com (Lori Nichols)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:37:07 GMT



I wonder if anyone out there can help me.  I have a friend out of state

that  has gone to h*ll and back on more than one occassion with medical

problems that have persisted for more than the 15 years that I've known

her.

 

The following is a list of symptoms that she sent me in the mail today:



Surgical Adhesions:  resulting in abdominal pain, left side.  Need 2-3

enemas *daily* for pain management.  Aggravated by water retention and

any waste going through.



Surgically Induced Menopause & Hormone Imbalance:  causing cyclical

symptoms, same pattern, same time frame, every month, throughout month,

including: water retention, distended abdomen, back pain,

fatigue-weakness, nausea, headaches, joint pain, vision impairment,

impaired circulation, hot flashes, sharp inner ear pain - left side,

oral nerve pain - left side, skin sensitivity and itching and crawling

sensation, heat sensitivity, altered sleep pattern, anxiety-tension,

muscle aches, chest heavyness, breast pain - left side, burning feet,

overwhelming exhaustion.

 

Scoliosis:  pressure from water retention causes nerve pain in area of

spinal curve extending outward into left side; and lower back pain also

aggravated by water retention & bloating.





My friend stated in the note she sent me "...as singular symptoms it

doesn't quite express what it feels like altogether or the combined

impact it has on  me.  It's most indescribably as a whole and the

limitations in puts on me are varied & rollercoaster-like..."



As I've said, I've known this gal for over 15 years, and I feel that

she's suffered more than anyone should have to in an entire lifetime.

I should also add that she's in her late 30's, and has been unable to

function in any form of employment for a number of years.



I've seen her bounced back and forth between all kinds of doctors in the

medical profession, and no one has been able to help her.  She's been

looking for someone that would work with her with alternative

treatments,  but unfortunately, she's not living in an area where

people are open to alternative health care.  I've been sending her

whatever information I can gather up here in Colorado, where

alternative medicine is widely accepted.

If anyone out there has any suggestions, or think they can help in any

way, please contact me.  She does not have access to a computer, so I'm

more than happy to relay questions & answers back and forth for her.

<email preferred if possible>

 

Thanks in advance for your help.





Lori

lori@missing.tbie.hms.com











--- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 

 * Origin: The Missing Link, Indian Hills, CO, USA 303.697.4097  (1:104/693.0)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Please Help

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 20:35:39 GMT



lori.nichols@f693.n104.z1.hms.com (Lori Nichols) wrote:



Hi, Lori:



Your friend sounds like she has a multi-symptom complex that

is for any physician to pick out and treat her individual

"symptoms" as such.



I am working with the Health Restoration Project, which

takes people through a series of "health building" steps

over a time period of six months to one year, depending on

how well a person can tolerate any given step (mainly

because some of the steps, while building health, can be

uncomfortable while you're going through them).  



Since your friend has had her problems for 15 years, she

might take a while longer, but some project members are

experiencing rather dramatic improvements in their health.

I know I have!  



All the products we use are natural herbs, combined in ways

that are really beneficial to our bodies.  Many you can get

from your local health food store, and some you have to

order by mail, and while it isn't outrageously expensive, it

isn't super cheap either.  On the other hand, how much is

she spending in doctor bills?



The founder of the HRP has had great experience with medical

problems involving multi-symptom complexes, having been at

various times diagnosed with lupus, chronic fatigue, and

fibromyalgia.  She found that an approach of building health

from the most basic building blocks upwards, then cleansing

and detoxifying the body, and finally using herbal

combinations to further strengthen and enhance health was

the only one that worked.  



The individual steps, taken by themselves, cannot result in

building health until the body is able to tolerate the step.

For instance, when someone does a liver cleanse before

rebuilding the detoxification pathways, and cleansing both

the kidneys and the lymphatics, the only thing that is

accomplished is recycling the toxins because the body

doesn't have a physiological pathway for the toxins to exit

the body.  



As uncomfortable as some of these cleanses can be, it's

futile to go through them until the necessary prior steps

are accomplished.  



I would be happy to talk to her directly if you E-mail me

her phone number.  



The HRP will shortly have the program on both a video tape

or a computer disc along with the 120 page manual, so people

can go through the program at their own pace, and she can

call me for support or questions about an individual step.



We cannot, of course, guarantee that she'll get completely

well on the program, but if she has any symptoms left at the

end of her course, it should be much easier for a physician

to treat the few symptoms that remain.  



Jeri Lee













>I wonder if anyone out there can help me.  I have a friend out of state

>that  has gone to h*ll and back on more than one occassion with medical

>problems that have persisted for more than the 15 years that I've known

>her.

> 

>The following is a list of symptoms that she sent me in the mail today:



>Surgical Adhesions:  resulting in abdominal pain, left side.  Need 2-3

>enemas *daily* for pain management.  Aggravated by water retention and

>any waste going through.



>Surgically Induced Menopause & Hormone Imbalance:  causing cyclical

>symptoms, same pattern, same time frame, every month, throughout month,

>including: water retention, distended abdomen, back pain,

>fatigue-weakness, nausea, headaches, joint pain, vision impairment,

>impaired circulation, hot flashes, sharp inner ear pain - left side,

>oral nerve pain - left side, skin sensitivity and itching and crawling

>sensation, heat sensitivity, altered sleep pattern, anxiety-tension,

>muscle aches, chest heavyness, breast pain - left side, burning feet,

>overwhelming exhaustion.

> 

>Scoliosis:  pressure from water retention causes nerve pain in area of

>spinal curve extending outward into left side; and lower back pain also

>aggravated by water retention & bloating.





>My friend stated in the note she sent me "...as singular symptoms it

>doesn't quite express what it feels like altogether or the combined

>impact it has on  me.  It's most indescribably as a whole and the

>limitations in puts on me are varied & rollercoaster-like..."



>As I've said, I've known this gal for over 15 years, and I feel that

>she's suffered more than anyone should have to in an entire lifetime.

>I should also add that she's in her late 30's, and has been unable to

>function in any form of employment for a number of years.



>I've seen her bounced back and forth between all kinds of doctors in the

>medical profession, and no one has been able to help her.  She's been

>looking for someone that would work with her with alternative

>treatments,  but unfortunately, she's not living in an area where

>people are open to alternative health care.  I've been sending her

>whatever information I can gather up here in Colorado, where

>alternative medicine is widely accepted.

>If anyone out there has any suggestions, or think they can help in any

>way, please contact me.  She does not have access to a computer, so I'm

>more than happy to relay questions & answers back and forth for her.

><email preferred if possible>

> 

>Thanks in advance for your help.





>Lori

>lori@missing.tbie.hms.com











>--- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 

> * Origin: The Missing Link, Indian Hills, CO, USA 303.697.4097  (1:104/693.0)







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Mugwort-possibly toxic for long-term use?

From: tls@sonic.net (Frank Ibis)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 05:10:38 GMT



Hi herb lovers-

	I've been using Mugwort for about a month as a sleep

and dream enhancer, with excellent results. Fabulous dreams

and deeper sleep. I harvest it fresh locally (S.F. Bay area)

and just strip the leaves and flower tops off the stalks and

throw it into my pillow case. Probably about 3 ounces.

	I recently read that repeated use may be damaging to

the central nervous system (ref: Alma Hutchins, Handbook of

Native American Herbs). Does anyone have any more info or care

to share their experience?	Thanks! and sweet dreams-F.I.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Mugwort-possibly toxic for long-term use?

From: sunwyn@mail.erinet.com (Robert Coning)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 18:07:25 GMT



tls@sonic.net (Frank Ibis) wrote:



>Hi herb lovers-

>	I've been using Mugwort for about a month as a sleep

>and dream enhancer, with excellent results. Fabulous dreams

>and deeper sleep. I harvest it fresh locally (S.F. Bay area)

>and just strip the leaves and flower tops off the stalks and

>throw it into my pillow case. Probably about 3 ounces.

>	I recently read that repeated use may be damaging to

>the central nervous system (ref: Alma Hutchins, Handbook of

>Native American Herbs). Does anyone have any more info or care

>to share their experience?	Thanks! and sweet dreams-F.I.



I have been using Mugwort for ten years and have never had a problem

with it.

                    Sunwyn





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Vitex for women's hormonal issues?

From: jpharris@earthlink.com

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 05:22:49 GMT



I have recently been told about vitex also known as chaste tree or

angus-castus.  A tincture was recommended for my perimenopausal

symptoms.  Here is what I find in some of my books-anybody have any

experience with using this for these symptoms?  I welcome input by

post or e-mail.  Thanks.



Actions: Tonic for reproductive organs

Indications: Chasteberry has the effect of stimulating and normalizing

the pituitary gland functions, especially progesterone function...and

it is thus indicated for dysmenorrhea, PMS and other disorders related

to hormonal function. It is especially beneficial during menopausal

changes.   (The Herbal Handbook/ David Hoffman, Healing Arts Press

'88)



Common Names: Chaste Tree, Chaste Bush, Nunswort.......

Medical herbalists regard angus castus as Nature's alternative to

chemical drugs for the hormone imbalance of PMS, for menstraul

troubles, and for menopause.  The plant has gained a well-deserved

reputation for alleviating hot flashes, menopausal melancholia, and

other problems associalted with the change of life.  It also

reportedly relieves profuse menstruation, oersistant bewteen-periods

bleeding, menstrual cramps, absence of periods, recurrent mastitis,

and symtoms of PMS. (Miracle Medicine Herbs/Richard M. Lucas, Parker

Publ.'91)



Vitex is extremely popular in Europe where it is used to treat PMS as

well as some of the unpleasant side effects associated with menopause.

For centuries, this herb has been reputed to be a hormone

balancer...[and] to treat fibroid tumors...(Herb Bible/Earl Mindell,

R.Ph.,Ph.D.,Simon & Schuster '92)



Born Again Pagan

Bright Blessings to All!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Vitex for women's hormonal issues?

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 01:46:54 GMT



Vitex is wonderful for menopausal women. Many of my customers have had

excellent results. In addition, a few have even tried it for fibroids

and have been able to shrink them considerably. Avoid giving this herb

to men, however, it was called Chastre Tree because of it's power to

stop sex drive in men. Monks used it frequently to quell their urges.

Doesn't seem to have the same effect on women though.



Hope this helps.... John Midura, Eden's Emporium





jpharris@earthlink.com wrote:



>I have recently been told about vitex also known as chaste tree or

>angus-castus.  A tincture was recommended for my perimenopausal

>symptoms.  Here is what I find in some of my books-anybody have any

>experience with using this for these symptoms?  I welcome input by

>post or e-mail.  Thanks.



>Actions: Tonic for reproductive organs

>Indications: Chasteberry has the effect of stimulating and normalizing

>the pituitary gland functions, especially progesterone function...and

>it is thus indicated for dysmenorrhea, PMS and other disorders related

>to hormonal function. It is especially beneficial during menopausal

>changes.   (The Herbal Handbook/ David Hoffman, Healing Arts Press

>'88)



>Common Names: Chaste Tree, Chaste Bush, Nunswort.......

>Medical herbalists regard angus castus as Nature's alternative to

>chemical drugs for the hormone imbalance of PMS, for menstraul

>troubles, and for menopause.  The plant has gained a well-deserved

>reputation for alleviating hot flashes, menopausal melancholia, and

>other problems associalted with the change of life.  It also

>reportedly relieves profuse menstruation, oersistant bewteen-periods

>bleeding, menstrual cramps, absence of periods, recurrent mastitis,

>and symtoms of PMS. (Miracle Medicine Herbs/Richard M. Lucas, Parker

>Publ.'91)



>Vitex is extremely popular in Europe where it is used to treat PMS as

>well as some of the unpleasant side effects associated with menopause.

>For centuries, this herb has been reputed to be a hormone

>balancer...[and] to treat fibroid tumors...(Herb Bible/Earl Mindell,

>R.Ph.,Ph.D.,Simon & Schuster '92)



>Born Again Pagan

>Bright Blessings to All!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Old recipes

From: pmitchel@bullion.org.za (Pauline Mitchell)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 11:38:36 GMT



In article <4tdkan$ued@tkhut.sojourn.com>, sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) says:

>

>Do I?Of Course!Here's one:

>       Elder Rob

>     5 parts ripe elderberries

>     1 part sugar

>Boil with gentle heat until thick.Dose:one and a half to two oz.Use to 

>get rid of a chill or for a gargle.

>       Claret of roses

>    Boil a handful of roses (red) in a pint of claret for an hour.Dip 

>piece of linen or flannel in this and apply to strained part.(muscles, 

>limbs,etc.)Keep on all night

>     If you enjoy these I can send more,I like collecting old recipes 

>too!

>Barbara





Although I am new at this game, I am most interested in the natural way

of healing.  My daughter has studied, irridology, aromatherapy, 

reflexology (she is on the international referral list), etc.  and she says

 she was influenced by my way of thinking.  Please send me some 

recipes I may start with.



Thank you in anticipation.





Pauline



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Old recipes

From: vwinter@aol.com (VWinter)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 04:58:01 -0400



Jeanne Rose has 8 or more books out on different recipes, for home

use...facials, shampoos, etc....also, Kelly Reno has severval books out on

home made recipes...I don't know how old some of the recipes are...some

old recipes aren't too reliable...:)

Susie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Old recipes

From: grabec@aol.com (GraBec)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 06:18:24 -0400



Does anyone know of an herbal company that would make up a tea formula for

me if I sent it to them?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Old recipes

From: pah6@cde.psu.edu (Phyllis Harbst)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 17:46:34 GMT



I don't know if a tea company would, but I bet a local herbalist would

do it for you. 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: GINSENG USE   HOW?

From: smckibbo@chat.carleton.ca (Sean McKibbon)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 12:47:09 GMT





I seem to remember reading in this news group's FAQ that one should use

Ginseng for a week or two and then not take it for a week and then resume

taking it for two weeks and then etc... Is this true?





----------------------------------------------------------------------

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R.R.3 

Spencerville Ontario

K0E 1X0

(613) 989-6078



Carleton University

Email address: smckibbo@chat.carleton.ca

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: GINSENG USE   HOW?

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 22:50:05 -0700



Sean McKibbon wrote:

> 

> I seem to remember reading in this news group's FAQ that one should use

> Ginseng for a week or two and then not take it for a week and then resume

> taking it for two weeks and then etc... Is this true?

> 



Hi Sean,



I take one tablet (250 mg) of Ginseng twice a day (morning and afternoon) 

and have never stopped taking it.  I seem to have more energy and have no 

ill effects.  I hope this was helpful.



Lykos



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: GINSENG USE   HOW?

From: white@nando.net

Date: 6 Aug 1996 16:09:58 GMT







On 1996-08-02 smckibbo said:

 sm I seem to remember reading in this news group's FAQ that one should

 sm use Ginseng for a week or two and then not take it for a week and

 sm then resume taking it for two weeks and then etc... Is this true?





I, for one, take the ginseng for 2 months and then Royal Jelly for 1 month

and this seems to help greatly. Taking the ginseng for more than 2 months at

a time seems to lower the affects of the ginseng in my case.









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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: stewart@peinet.pe.ca

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: rosemary, thyme oil

From: T E I X E I R A <teixeira@ccnet.com>

Date: 2 Aug 1996 16:07:03 GMT



I use rosemary oil.  I have long hair and I put a drop on my brush.  It 

helps get talges out and is said to be good for the scalp & hair.  I have 

been using it for years.



Don







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: rosemary, thyme oil

From: (Lee)

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 15:02:44 GMT



Try posting to alt.aromatherapy.  As I recall, the "thymes" oils were

recently in discussion in this newsgroup.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: pau d'Arco

From: willobee@sagedesign.com (Queen Willobee)

Date: 2 Aug 1996 18:18:04 GMT



In article <31F9AD7F.581A@ix.netcom.com>, Susan Rosenberg

<gismo@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



> Yehudity wrote:

> > 

> > what is this good for? are there any risks?Its good for Candida.



My mother was diagnosed with cancer ten years ago, it started as breast

cancer and mestastisized (sp?) into her lymphatic system, she underwent

chemo but pretty well she was told there wasn't much hope, she is totally

alive and strong and healthy today, she claims that it is all due to pau

d"arco tea, which she has been drinking every day for the past ten years, 



i have never tried it myself, but she is totally convinced. It also goes

by the name Taheebo.



best wishes,

gillian



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: pau d'Arco

From: norachaz@aol.com (Nora Chaz)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 19:02:24 -0400



Supposedly good for some fungal infections.  I don't know about any side

effects.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: pau d'Arco

From: JULIE R SOUTHERLAND <herbalnet@mymail.net>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 23:15:20 GMT



Pau D'Arco is a natural blood cleanser and builder.  It is a powerful antibiotic

with virus killing properties.  It gives the body strength and

energy and protects and builds the immune system.  It has been

found to be effective against cancer.  It is healing for all 

diseases including arthritis, asthma, diabetes, gonorrhea, 

hemorrhages, hernia, infections, liver ailments, lupus,

Parkinson's disease, pyorrhea, skin problems, spleen, ulcers, varicose 

veins and wounds.  NATURE'S GUIDE Spring 1996.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: sunshine@2sprint.net

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 2 Aug 1996 18:38:41 GMT



Sherry,



For inner ear congestion (not infection) I highly recommend ear 

candling.....you can find these hollow candles in any health food 

store...the instructions are on the package...before you do this put a 

couple of drops of natural apple cider vinager and equal amounts of 

alchol the day before....the candling will help if there is trapped wax 

causing the congestion







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: smorelan@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (susan moreland)

Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 21:33:38 GMT



In article <4tthvh$ebn@neon.house.gov> Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov> writes:



>Sherry,



>For inner ear congestion (not infection) I highly recommend ear 

>candling.....you can find these hollow candles in any health food 

>store...the instructions are on the package...before you do this put a 

>couple of drops of natural apple cider vinager and equal amounts of 

>alchol the day before....the candling will help if there is trapped wax 

>causing the congestion





ear candling does absolutely nothing for the inner ear.  in fact, it probably 

isn't beneficial for *anything*.



susan moreland 

audiologist



ps -- for more information on ear problems, try the bionet.audiology 

or alt.support.tinnitus newsgroups.  both are manned by hearing professionals 

and their subject matter is more appropriate there than in an arthritis group.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: jstanley@gate.net (John A. Stanley)

Date: 4 Aug 1996 08:42:04 -0400



In article <320291DE.3391@io.com>, Wayne Benner <wayno@io.com> wrote:

>How did we get from ear congestion to arthritis????



Ear congestion is caused by calcium deposits in the ear joints. Duh!



-- 

John A. Stanley                      jstanley@gate.net







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: smorelan@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 6 Aug 1996 15:27:14 GMT



Susan, 



	I disagree!!! My husband has massive wax buildup and this is a much 

better way to get it out.....of course, you can abuse anything but we 

only do it once every three months or so







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: Ronald Seibold <cybold@rof.net>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 18:24:40 -0700



Penny Freshwater wrote:

> 

> Susan,

> 

>         I disagree!!! My husband has massive wax buildup and this is a much

> better way to get it out.....of course, you can abuse anything but we

> only do it once every three months or so



RE:  Ear Candles and back to the subject...



I bought a set of these candles recently and used them.  Like I was told, 

inside the candle was massive amounts of what appeared to be ear wax.



I was so impressed, I did it again to find even more wax.  Then I bought 

a third set and set one on fire and held it in my hand.  I put my finger

near the hole at the bottom several times to see what kind of suction it

had to pull out the wax.  There was none.  



After buring it while holding it in my hand, I opened it up like the ones 

I had put in my ear.  To my suprise even this candle had massive amounts 

of what appeared to be ear wax!  



Upon consulting the literature that came with the candles, I noticed that 

it says that the powder that forms in the candle is not ear wax.  It says 

that the ear wax is vaporized in the process and burns with the flame.



I wonder.



Back to the subject...



Arthritis: the best source of alfalfa in the U.S. today is from Pines 

International.  I know of no other company besides Pines that direct cuts 

fall and spring alfalfa.  It never touches the ground and is low 

temperature dried immediately.  They then store the dehydrated alfalfa in 

cold storage and sell it in nitrogen packed GLASS bottles for incredible 

freshness.  



Most alfalfa is cut in the summer when it is stemmy and is left to dry in 

the sun for several days.  The companies that produce these products 

don't keep their bulk product in cold storage and use plastic bottles 

with no nitrogen protection. The result is a product with virtually no 

beta carotene or other nutrients and a lot of fiber.



You can notice the difference in Pines alfalfa by just looking at it.  

The tablets are nice and green and fresh looking.  



Pines homepage is: <http://www.wheatgrass.com>>



Peace,



Ron



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: discovry@halcyon.com (Managing Directors)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 13:31:17 +0428



In article <4tthvh$ebn@neon.house.gov>, Penny Freshwater

<pfreshwa@hr.house.gov> wrote:



>Sherry,

>

>For inner ear congestion (not infection) I highly recommend ear 

>candling.....you can find these hollow candles in any health food 

>store...the instructions are on the package...before you do this put a 

>couple of drops of natural apple cider vinager and equal amounts of 

>alchol the day before....the candling will help if there is trapped wax 

>causing the congestion



Sometimes, ear congestion is associated with allergies,  It could be food

allergies, or it could be pollen, or environmental allergies.  In my case,

it was dairy products.  It might be worthwhile to check it out.



Hope this helps.



JoDee



-- 

http://www.halcyon.com/discovry/discovry/index.html



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: cheridawn@computerlink.com (Cheryle Bugay)

Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 06:10:28 -400



In article <4tf1qa$7b3@news.2sprint.net>

Sherry Page <sunshine@2sprint.net> wrote:

> Ken Wexler <kwex@star.net> wrote:

> >

> > ddddd

> I would like to suggest that you try Golden Seal Root!  This has worked fantastic for ear infections, etc.  Also you could chlorophyll for a cleanse and to build up the immune system.

> 

> I suggest using echinacea, also - it is the best! Cured my son's recurring 

ear infections.

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: smorelan@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (susan moreland)

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 20:43:41 GMT



In article <4u7o8i$312@neon.house.gov> Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov> writes:

In article <4u7o8i$312@neon.house.gov> Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov> writes:

>om!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!neon.house.gov!news





>Susan, 



>        I disagree!!! My husband has massive wax buildup and this is a much 

>better way to get it out.....of course, you can abuse anything but we 

>only do it once every three months or so





this is what i said:



"ear candling does absolutely nothing for the inner ear.  in fact, it probably 

isn't beneficial for *anything*."



and i stand by it.  the inner ear is not reachable by an ear candle and 

problems with it never have anything to do with wax.  therefore, ear candling 

as a remedy for "inner ear congestion" is a lark.  as far as its usefulness 

and appropriateness as purely a wax reduction method, well, the jury's still 

out on that one, too.  better to have a hearing professional remove it.





susan moreland

audiologist



smorelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

tinnitus faq: http://www.cccd.edu/faq/tinnitus.html



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: Edwards.Farleigh@btinternet.com (Janice Edwards)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 15:35:07 GMT



In article <31F54997.5942@star.net>, kwex@star.net says...

>

>ddddd

STEAM  INHALE THE STEAM TO CLEAR SINUS PASSAGES THAT LINK TO INNER EAR 

PASSAGES.  ALSO GOOD - FRIARS BALSAM, IN STEAM





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Any remedies for inner ear congestion?

From: smorelan@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (susan moreland)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 00:14:50 GMT



In article <4uia7b$29e@snow.btinternet.com> Edwards.Farleigh@btinternet.com (Janice Edwards) writes:



>In article <31F54997.5942@star.net>, kwex@star.net says...

>>

>>ddddd

>STEAM  INHALE THE STEAM TO CLEAR SINUS PASSAGES THAT LINK TO INNER EAR 

>PASSAGES.  ALSO GOOD - FRIARS BALSAM, IN STEAM



i think you need an anatomy lesson.  the sinus passages don't come anywhere 

CLOSE to connecting to the inner ear.  you can inhale anything you want to and 

it's not going to affect the inner ear.





susan moreland

audiologist



smorelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

tinnitus faq: http://www.cccd.edu/faq/tinnitus.html



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Cats Claw

From: "James L Kistner" <kistech@cei.net>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 15:18:08 -0500 (BST)



Please share any information on Cats Claw from the rain forrest in Peru.

A reply by e-mail would be nice as well as a thread on this news group. 



Jim 



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Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: swswsw@gnatnet.net (Michael Wright)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 09:07:54 GMT



In article <21508181596747ntc@cei.net>, kistech@cei.net says...

>

>Please share any information on Cats Claw from the rain forrest in 

Peru.

>A reply by e-mail would be nice as well as a thread on this news group. 

>

>Jim 

>

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CAT'S CLAW (Uncaria tomentosa)

That Wondrous Herb from the Peruvian Rain Forest

      (by Phillip N Steinberg, Certified Nutritional Consultant) 



In the May, 1994 issue of the Townsend Letter, many of you read about 

the history and

remarkable properties of Uncaria tomentosa (Cat's Claw). Since that 

time, hundreds of doctors

and clinics throughout the United States have begun working with the 

herb and it has become

widely available in health food stores. Preliminary reports seem to 

verify what I had first mentioned

in my previous article. That is, that Uncaria tomentosa may be 

beneficial in the prevention and

treatment of many of today's serious health problems. These include: 

cancer, arthritis, bursitis,

rheumatism, all forms of herpes... including Epstein Barr, chemical and 

environmental allergies and

sensitivities, asthma, depression, systemic candidiasis, lupus, 

diabetes, hypoglycemia, chronic

fatigue syndrome, acne, PMS and menstrual irregularities, environmental 

toxin poisoning,

circulatory problems such as hypertension, varicose veins, thrombosis 

and those infected with the

HIV virus. There is also evidence that Uncaria tomentosa may be helpful 

with numerous stomach

and bowel disorders including: gastritis, ulcers, hemorrhoids, Crohn's 

disease, diverticulosis, leaky

and irritable bowel syndrome. 



Within the last year, I have received reports from both doctors and 

individuals describing their

successes in using the herb. Here is what some have reported: 



Dr. Ambrose, ND, co-founder of the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine 

recently informed me

that she is seeing significant improvement in patients suffering from 

Crohn's disease, ulcers, asthma,

arthritis, iritis, shingles, dysbiosis and chronic fatigue syndrome. One 

patient, a woman who had

been taking sulfasalazine (a sulfa drug with numerous side effects) to 

treat a bleeding ulcerative

condition associated with Crohn's, was able to quit the drug after a few 

weeks using Cat's Claw,

her bleeding condition seems to have cleared up and she is reported to 

be experiencing much

higher levels of energy. 



Dr. Ambrose also mentioned that she has been able to eliminate the use 

of many Chinese herbs

because Cat's Claw, in many instances, seems to be more effective; and 

finally, she has informed

me that Cat's Claw seems to enhance overall immunity while increasing 

stamina and energy in

patients who suffered from physical and mental exhaustion due to an 

overactive or stressful

lifestyle. 



Dr. Donna Schwontkowski, DC: In Healthy & Natural Journal, issue 1, 

October 1994, pp.

64-65, has stated that Una de Gato (Cat's Claw) is the most powerful 

immune enhancing herb of

all the herbs native to the Peruvian Amazon. In her article titled, 

"herbal Treasures from the

Amazon" part 1, she mentions that preliminary studies suggest that the 

herb has an ability to stop

viral infections in early sages, help patients who are chemically 

sensitive, enhance emotional

stability - even in the midst of extreme stress, fight infections in 

AIDS patients and decrease the

visible size of some skin tumors and cysts within two weeks. 



Dr. Schwontkowski also reports that Una de Gato has been linked with the 

remission of brain and

other tumors, as well as providing relief from the side effects of 

chemotherapy. Dr. Julie Clemens,

ND and Homeopath began giving Cat's Claw to her mother who had severe 

circulatory problems

in her legs and found walking to be difficult and extremely painful. 

Within a few weeks, her

circulation improved and she was able to begin walking with almost no 

pain. Dr. Clemens has also

report seeing a significant reduction in the side-effects of radiation 

and chemotherapy in her cancer

patients who are using Cat's Claw. 



Kitty Winslow, owner of a health food store in Missouri has reported 

that four of her customers

have eliminated most of their symptoms associated with fibromyalgia, as 

a result of taking Cat's

Claw in capsule form. 



Finally, a patient in Texas who is HIV positive, informed me that after 

taking Cat's Claw capsules

for approximately eight weeks, his T-cell count rose from 560 to 875. 



Obviously, these reports are anecdotal in nature. However, I feel the 

herb certainly shows promise

and should be considered for use in more comprehensive natural treatment 

programs. One thing

that could be done is an in-depth scientific evaluation of how the 

varied plant phytochmecials found

in Cat's Claw many function synergistically. These include oxindole 

alkaloids, quinovic acid

glycosides, triterpines, polyphenols, proanthocyanidins and plant 

steols. The presence of these

compounds seem to be what gives the herb its adaptogen, antioxidant, 

antitumor, antimicrobial and

anti-inflammatory properties. 



Though more research is needed to determine proper dosage for various 

ailments, there is a

general consensus based on the available information and use by various 

doctors and individuals

throughout the U.S. 



Traditionally, the Indigenous Peoples of Peru have used both the root 

and the inner bark of Cat's

Claw to prepare a tea in the form of a decoction. However, because the 

plant has become a

threatened species, the government of Peru has passed legislation 

designed to protect the herb and

insure it's availability of those who need it now and in the future. 

Since the inner bark has been

found to contain all of the medicinal properties attributed to the herb, 

it has recently become illegal

to harvest or disturb the root. Harvesting the root causes the needless 

death and destruction of the

vine and ecologically speaking is an unsound practice, Couple this with 

the ever-increasing

worldwide demand and it becomes clear why Cat's Claw has become 

threatened. In fact, it has

been estimated that the species could become extinct within the next 5 

years if harvesting the root

were allowed to continue. Harvesting the inner bark, however, is 

ecologically sound as long as the

root remains intact. This practice insures that the vine will grow back, 

replenish itself, reach

maturity and again be ready for harvesting in approximately 4 years. 



In present day Peru, one can walk into a pharmacy and purchase Cat's 

Claw in either tea or

capsule form. Labels on the packaging state that the curative powers of 

Cat's Claw are almost

unlimited. This is attributed to the herb being a powerful cellular 

reconstitutor. Instructions are

given on how to use the herb to teat cancer, arthritis, gastritis, 

female hormonal imbalances and

other ailments. 



In closing, I would like to mention that I am involved in the ongoing 

research of Cat's Claw and

other herbs from the Peruvian Amazon. I am particularly interested in 

hearing from anyone who

has used Cat's claw and what results they have obtained. 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 20:06:25 -0700



Michael Wright wrote:

> 

> In article <21508181596747ntc@cei.net>, kistech@cei.net says...

> >

> >Please share any information on Cats Claw from the rain forrest in

> Peru.

> >A reply by e-mail would be nice as well as a thread on this news group.

> >

> >Jim

> >

> >-----------------------------------------------------------------

> >James L. Kistner aware@cei.net

> >670 Arrowhead Lane

> >Cave City, Ar. 72521

> >USA BBS 1-501-283-5378 2000-0800 CDT

> >using NETcetera II 2.51 (Registered)

> >for Internet News....

> >-----------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> CAT'S CLAW (Uncaria tomentosa)

> That Wondrous Herb from the Peruvian Rain Forest

>       (by Phillip N Steinberg, Certified Nutritional Consultant)

> [snip]

 

> In closing, I would like to mention that I am involved in the ongoing

> research of Cat's Claw and

> other herbs from the Peruvian Amazon. I am particularly interested in

> hearing from anyone who

> has used Cat's claw and what results they have obtained.



My uncle, now living in Cordoba Argentina, 6 months agao, he was given 3 months to 

live by his doctor, for a cancer which had consumed most of his liver, and spread to 

his aorta.  He has been drinking Cat's Claw tea (cold) everytime he is thirsty or has 

a need for liquid.  His urine smells and looks like the tea, and this seems to be the 

only undesirable side effect.  His color is back, he is no longer bound to his bed... 

he goes camping, and is involved in sports, etc...



Solis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: Chaz  Kussoy <ckussoy@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu>

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:12:43 -0700



I have been taking Cat's Claw for about 3 months, working up to what 

I understand to be a "therapeutic dose" (3000 mg/day).  I am taking the 

Cat's Claw for help with connective tissue disease/fibromyalgia (with 

severe muscle pain & contraction) and CFIDS symptoms.  



Thus far I have not yet noticed any beneficial results (I'm up to 2400 

mg/day).  However, I am experiencing some distressing colon & 

gallbladder/ liver congestion.  I'm not sure if this is a result of the 

Cat's Claw or not.  I'm still hanging in with it, hoping that after 

reaching "therapeutic dose" for awhile I'll experience some positive results.



Is there anyone else out there taking Cat's Claw who can offer personal 

experiences??  I'd like to hear experiences, positive and/or negative.



Marty Jaye

<ckussoy@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu>





On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, solis wrote:



> Michael Wright wrote:

> > 

> > In article <21508181596747ntc@cei.net>, kistech@cei.net says...

> > >

> > >Please share any information on Cats Claw from the rain forrest in

> > Peru.

> > >A reply by e-mail would be nice as well as a thread on this news group.

> > >

> > >Jim

> > >

> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------

> > >James L. Kistner aware@cei.net

> > >670 Arrowhead Lane

> > >Cave City, Ar. 72521

> > >USA BBS 1-501-283-5378 2000-0800 CDT

> > >using NETcetera II 2.51 (Registered)

> > >for Internet News....

> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > CAT'S CLAW (Uncaria tomentosa)

> > That Wondrous Herb from the Peruvian Rain Forest

> >       (by Phillip N Steinberg, Certified Nutritional Consultant)

> > [snip]

>  

> > In closing, I would like to mention that I am involved in the ongoing

> > research of Cat's Claw and

> > other herbs from the Peruvian Amazon. I am particularly interested in

> > hearing from anyone who

> > has used Cat's claw and what results they have obtained.

> 

> My uncle, now living in Cordoba Argentina, 6 months agao, he was given 3 months to 

> live by his doctor, for a cancer which had consumed most of his liver, and spread to 

> his aorta.  He has been drinking Cat's Claw tea (cold) everytime he is thirsty or has 

> a need for liquid.  His urine smells and looks like the tea, and this seems to be the 

> only undesirable side effect.  His color is back, he is no longer bound to his bed... 

> he goes camping, and is involved in sports, etc...

> 

> Solis

> 

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:58:52 GMT



In <Pine.A32.3.91.960808090618.46626A-100000@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu>

Chaz  Kussoy <ckussoy@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> writes: 

>

>I have been taking Cat's Claw for about 3 months, working up to what 

>I understand to be a "therapeutic dose" (3000 mg/day).  I am taking

>the Cat's Claw for help with connective tissue disease/fibromyalgia

>(with severe muscle pain & contraction) and CFIDS symptoms.  

>

Are these capsules? Do you know how this translates into grams of whole

herb for making a decoction? From where does the 3000 mg/day dose

information originate? Can you share this?



I hope it works well for you, CFIDS is no joking matter.



James







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: JULIE R SOUTHERLAND <herbalnet@mymail.net>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 23:34:51 GMT



I have been using Cats Claw for over 6 months for chronic pain.  

I switched to a pycnogenol, but found the Cats Claw worked better

for me.  I suffer from severe TMJ, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and 

arthritis on the entire right side of my body.  I was recently 

diagnosed with Planters Fascia (I'm not sure of the spelling)

in my right foot.  All my problems seem to settle to the right.



I have had no side effects with the Cats Claw, and notice quickly

days I forget it.  At the same time I started it I also "cleansed"

completely and thoroughly and still do as my father was diagnosed

with colon cancer one year ago and at that time I found out his

mother died of colon cancer.  Doctor said it's a matter of time

for me (I'm 40) but I'm not "waiting around for it".  I'm taking

matters into my own hands through thorough cleansing.



Anyway, I'd like to hear more about how you're doing.

Julie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,bionet.plants,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Cats Claw

From: Hawaii Space Center <spazhwi@maui.net>

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:36:14 GMT



HI:

Could you pls explain in detail how much Cat's claw

(uncaria tormentosa???) are you using, is it the root,

pills or??? Are you taking tea?? How often? If tea

how much material? How long before you felt any

improvements? And any other specific information

you can detail.

Thank you, Sam







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Itchy Scalp

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:01:00 GMT



karzan@peg.apc.org (Karen Hayes) wrote:



>I am wondering if anyone can suggest anything for my scalp.  I have long,

>thick hair and my scalp is dry in places and very itchy.  I have tried

>expensive shampoos and conditioners to no avail.  Any suggestion would be

>appreciated as it is driving me crazy !



>Thanks In Advance

>Karen

>karzan@peg.apc.org



Karen:



Look on the labels of your shampoos and see if there is

Sodium Laurel Sulfate (SLS) or Sodium Laureleth Sulfate

(SLES).  These are usually used in combination with Sodium

Chloride (plain old table salt)



SLS, SLES, are used industrially as garage floor cleaners

and auto engine degreasers--and as such they are corrosive

rather than an emulsifier (which a shampoo should be).



The worst problem with shampoos containing SLS and SLES is

that if they also have an MEA, DEA, or TEA-ending ingredient

those ingredients can combine in the bottle and precipitate

out as nitrates and dioxins.  Because SLS and SLES are such

tiny little molecules (35 microns or so), they go right

through the scalp, into the cells, and through the walls of

the blood vessels, and can thus go anywhere in your body

they want to!  



These ingredients are the major reason for the warning

labels on kids' bubble baths--they go right into their

little bodies and have been documented as causing urinary

tract infections.  



SLS is also used by Johnson & Johnson in their "No More

Tears" shampoo for kids.  One researcher, I think his name

is Keith Green, claims that SLS prevents the protein chains

in kids eyes from linking up properly and thus causes their

eyes not to mature as they should, thus leading to poor eye

sight.  



I can send you a info sheet on this if you want.



Jeri Lee











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for blood circulation??

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:02:35 GMT



Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> wrote:





>Does anyone know of any herbs which would help blood circulation?

>Any help would be appreciated.



>Thanks

> 

>Pat



You might also try ginkgo biloba; it's supposed to dilate

the blood vessels in the brain and give better mental

functioning.



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for blood circulation??

From: troupin@netvision.net.il

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 20:49:00 PDT





In Article<wmB2MNAFko$xEwAN@megshome.demon.co.uk>, <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> writes:

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> From: Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk>

> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

> Subject: Herbs for blood circulation??

> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:13:25 +0100

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> 

> Does anyone know of any herbs which would help blood circulation?

> Any help would be appreciated.

> 

> Thanks

>  

> Pat

---

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

dear pat

1.one chinese herb called Rehamannia Glutinosa it nourishes and stimulates 

circulation.

refer to a book by Reid on chinese medicine.



also you can use ginco

reg

shmarya







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for blood circulation??

From: jtalley@inetworld.net (John Talley)

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 02:12:24 GMT



troupin@netvision.net.il wrote:



>

>In Article<wmB2MNAFko$xEwAN@megshome.demon.co.uk>, <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> writes:

>> Path: news.NetVision.net.il!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp.coast.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!megshome.demon.co.uk!pat

>> From: Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk>

>> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

>> Subject: Herbs for blood circulation??

>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:13:25 +0100

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>> 

>> Does anyone know of any herbs which would help blood circulation?

>> Any help would be appreciated.

>> 

>> Thanks

>>  

>> Pat

>---

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>dear pat

>1.one chinese herb called Rehamannia Glutinosa it nourishes and stimulates 

>circulation.

>refer to a book by Reid on chinese medicine.

>

>also you can use ginco

>reg

>shmarya

>

>

Gingko actually.  Also: ginger, cayenne, hawthorne; ginseng maybe.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: FAQ

From: "R. L. Guthrie" <D001776@interpath.com>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 18:22:10 -0700



I am a newcomer.  How do I get to the FAQ for this newsgroup?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: looking for a good course

From: "Jeff S. Simmons" <jsimmons@nrv.net>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:24:12 -0400



Is there a course on the net to teach me about herbs...for medical use 

only...not cooking



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,sci.med,alt.com

Subject: Herbal Medicine 3 Part Report

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 3 Aug 1996 02:05:17 GMT



http://www.ivanhoe.com/docs/backissues/herbalmedicine3part.html



Ivanhoe is apparently a broadcast news company of some sort - their pages 

don't really make it clear.  But they do have some ok reports.



The one above is decent!



dn







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: HAIR CONDITIONER

From: dstamps@aldus.northnet.org (David Loretta and Kerry Stamps)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:00:57 GMT



Any recipes for a homemade hair conditioner?



Thanks - Loretta Stamps (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: HERB SOFTWARE

From: dstamps@aldus.northnet.org (David Loretta and Kerry Stamps)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:02:49 GMT



Does anyone have any suggestions for herb software programs?



Thanks, Loretta (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERB SOFTWARE

From: chinagc@ix.netcom.com (Longtian Wang)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 03:04:03 GMT



dstamps@aldus.northnet.org (David Loretta and Kerry Stamps) wrote:



>Does anyone have any suggestions for herb software programs?



>Thanks, Loretta (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



Chinese Herbs CD-ROM

For online image and further information, check out

http://www.catalog.com/inforg01/alt-medi.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERB SOFTWARE

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 20:57:18 GMT



dstamps@aldus.northnet.org (David Loretta and Kerry Stamps)

wrote:



>Does anyone have any suggestions for herb software programs?



>Thanks, Loretta (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



Loretta:



A fellow in Olympia, Washington (whose name I do not recall

at this moment) has developed a program that is a relational

data base with recipes, uses, and other information on

herbs.  



His booket lists 250 herbs, so I have to assume 250 is what

he has in the data base.



I sent for this program but haven't as yet managed to get it

loaded.  Evidently you have to pay for the program  and then

call him (his price isn't that awful, either) before all of

the functions work as they should.  



You can E-mail him at:  timilen@halcyon.com



or call:  Timilen Company (360) 357-8325



or (800) 590-7838



Hope this will be what you need.



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERB SOFTWARE

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 19:14:21 GMT



On 3 Aug 1996 03:02:49 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs dstamps@aldus.northnet.org

(David Loretta and Kerry Stamps) wrote:



>Does anyone have any suggestions for herb software programs?

>

>Thanks, Loretta (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



In my sunsite ftp/www space you'll find some DOS/Win31 programs that are either

shareware or demos of bigger brothers you can buy; download them and look for

yourself what they do. They are described in the medicinal herbfaq, too.



Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERB SOFTWARE

From: chinagc@ix.netcom.com (Longtian Wang)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:37:37 GMT



dstamps@aldus.northnet.org (David Loretta and Kerry Stamps) wrote:



>Does anyone have any suggestions for herb software programs?



>Thanks, Loretta (dstamps@aldus.northnet.org)



Chinese Herbs CD (wrote in Chinese and English, pronunciation in

Chinese and English)

For online image, please check out

http://www.catalog.com/inforg01/alt-medi.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: smooth move

From: barbmoon@ix.netcom.com(Barbara A. Finch)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:56:09 GMT



Hi Suzy,



It sounds as though you may have food allergies which can definitely

make you feel quite bloated.  Food usually goes through the body in

18-24 hours but the allergies can continue for a while.



Stop using the tea if you think it is harming you - you have to listen

to your body.



Here are some ideas:



1.  If you have access to an Asian Indian store, pick up a box of

fleaseed husks.  They are similar to what is in Metamucil but much less

tough on the body.  The texture is weird, but mix a large tablespoon in

a large cup of WARM water (cold liquid has the opposite effect - not

what you need at the moment!).  The husks will swell up and it will

have the texture of grits.  If you want, you can put a little vanilla

or lemon juice in for flavor.  Take this every evening after dinner.



2.  Exercises to release the lower chakra (at the base of the spine)

and release your poop! -



    Squat on the ground and concentrate on really relaxing your tushy. 

It may feel silly at first, but you might be surprised at how "tight"

all the muscles are.  We "cultured" Americans sit on a toidy now and so

no longer get the laxative effects of squatting, which triggers

pressure points telling the body it's time to poop.



    Do the Cobra yoga position.  Lie on your stomach with your face

facing the floor.  Put your hands up as though you're going to do

pushups.  Then S-L-O-W-L-Y straighten your arms, arching your back and

gradually lifting your head.  Keep going until your arms are straight

and your head is all the way back looking up at the ceiling.  Hold this

position for at least 10-15 seconds and again relax your bottom. (Check

with your doc if you have a back problem).  This should not be a

strain, but a gentle movement.



    Walk around the room a few times on your HEELS.  The heels are

connected to that first chakra.  Stomp on your heels but don't hurt

yourself.



3.  It sounds as though you and your body are locked in mortal combat. 

Perhaps your body is really angry at the "attacks" to force it to

dispel its waste.  Take the time to talk with your body and find out if

perhaps there are mental attitudes that are getting in the way of you

being kind to your body.  Is it possible that there are some family

patterns of insistence on performance?  Try to not get into a power

struggle with your body and start a consistent daily program

(preferably at the beginning of the day) to lovingly retrain your body.

Often our bodies just "refuse" to cooperate in an attempt to get our

attention!  Ask your body to please help you learn to relax and

release its toxins in a gentle way.  



4.  Another Asian Indian routine:  Drink a glass of hot lemon water

about 1/2 hour before dawn, do the exercises above and then meditate

facing east until dawn.  Then go to the bathroom.  No straining, just

sit calmly and relax yourself.  If you don't go in a few minutes, get

up and go about your morning.  As you do, ask you body if it needs to

get rid of anything and tell it you will help.



5.  It's certainly possible that you have food allergies.  I am

allergic to wheat and get terribly constipated when I eat bread.  You

might call some acupuncturists and find one who is trained to treat

food allergies.  It could be wheat, rice, peanut butter or dairy

products, etc.  I have recently started treatments and am amazed at the

difference.  There is a book about this and I can give you

the info on it if you desire.



The acupuncturist might also find some energy imbalances that are

making it difficult for you to poop.





Have patience - this has been going on for a long time and so it all

won't go away overnight.  Not only are you going to retrain your body

but you have to retrain your mind to not "yell" at your body for not

performing on command.



Good luck to you, friend.



Barb!







In <4tj1m7$sip@a3bsrv.nai.net> jungho@nai.net (jung yea oh) writes: 

>

>hi-i purchased this tea called smooth move, and it's ruining my life..

>i think. my mom gave it to me when i somehow didn't digest

>this really exotic meal;i was bloated all day before, and so i took 

>it, and only when i took it twice did it work the next morning, 

>but the process was er..painful.  i had a bloat all day, even though

>i ate very little-i think it's some sort of left

>over from fennel seeds. can anybody tell me about senna and fennel,

which

>is in this tea? i cannot eat anything without it staying

>in my stomach for weeks, unless i take the tea-and then the tea makes

>me bloated all day. i tried a juice fast-i felt a little 

>better because i didn't have to digest anything, only the damn fennel

>seeds or whatever is in my stomach!!

>please, someone help me.  I want to eat normally. i do not know if

>i should take more fiber or just drink juices again.  I think 

>the fiber of the tea is staying in my stomach-all i know is that

>i'm perpetually bloated. i've had to buy the tea box five times-

>maybe i'm going to die of it soon.

>someone please answer, a medical professional or someone

>who actully tried this tea-or even the company that makes this tea.

>

>suzy.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anyone have this book

From: Paul Whitmer <pwhitmer@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:56:49 -0400



Howard Haas wrote:

> 

> LeeAllen:

> I loved this book. I've read quite a few "alternative" health books,

> looking for answers to a skin problem. Not only did I find specific

> solutions to my problem, I found Dr. Weil's writing to be quite

> enjoyable, objective, and enlightening.

I too enjoyed this book.  I also enjoy his web sight!

Jo Ann[on husbands account]



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Gout

From: stepart@vonl.com (Art Sobelman)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 04:09:59 GMT



Are there any Herbs for helping with Gout? 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Gout

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 4 Aug 1996 03:09:15 GMT



Art Sobelman (stepart@vonl.com) wrote:

: Are there any Herbs for helping with Gout? 

: 





Ginger is reported to be effective.



Jim:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Art Sobelman <stepart@vonl.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Gout

From: Martha Boufford <isretred@pacificnet.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 22:17:06 -0700



Art Sobelman wrote:

> 

> Are there any Herbs for helping with Gout?



Yes, I would use Hydrangea, Devil's Claw and LifePath, an anti oxident 

plus product for this condition.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Can you use Dill stalks?

From: al062@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Roberta Seed)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 04:36:49 GMT





 I just received a generous amount of 4' dill, pulled out of the ground,

and I have stripped all of the large stalks of the actual frilly dill

parts, but I'm wondering if I can use the woody stalks, and smaller

branches that some of the dill was attached to. The dill is fresh, I just

received it today, so if I shouldn't waste anything I'd like to know.

Also, I froze the actual dill in layers in freezer bags- I hope this was

correct, because I didn't blanche it or anything.  Thanks, Roberta.

--







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Can you use Dill stalks?

From: lisastag@wolfenet.com (Lisa Stag-Tout)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 23:23:21 GMT



al062@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Roberta Seed) wrote:





> I just received a generous amount of 4' dill, pulled out of the ground,

>and I have stripped all of the large stalks of the actual frilly dill

>parts, but I'm wondering if I can use the woody stalks, and smaller

>branches that some of the dill was attached to. The dill is fresh, I just

>received it today, so if I shouldn't waste anything I'd like to know.

>Also, I froze the actual dill in layers in freezer bags- I hope this was

>correct, because I didn't blanche it or anything.  Thanks, Roberta.

>--



I remember someone using dill stalks for grilling fish on a BBQ.

Maybe after stuffing the fish you could use the stalks to "sew " it up



or after soaking the stalks you might be able to use them as shish-ke-

bob sticks or use them as flavored toothpicks or....







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: My brain dont work good, any good herbs?

From: markg@teleport.com (Mark C. Gay)

Date: 03 Aug 1996 05:52:45 GMT



>In article <4tapcn$pti@news.ld.centuryinter.net> thatjoeguy@nortexinfo.net 

>(Joe A. Koesler) writes:

>

>

>   Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com> wrote:

>

>   >How much ginko?  

>

>   >dn

>   120 to 160mg per day of 24%(fifty pounds of leaves to one pound of

>   extract)  divided into three doses  each day...ie 50mg three times per

>   day. Also try  choline...2500 to 3000mg ,4 times a day(Many pills) to

>   enhance memory,  choline is processed into acetylcholine (a

>   neurotransmitter)    in the brain.

>

>   See MIND FOOD AND SMART PILLS by Ross Pelton from Doubleday pub. It's

>   really detailed on this subject.

>   Maven



Be careful with the choline pills (choline bitartrate).  Taking it in

any where near that dosage gave me severe diarrhea.  You also need a 

proportional amount of pantothenic acid for your body to make use of

the choline.  



Liquid choline chloride from Twin Labs is the least expensive way I've

found to get both the choline and pantothenic acid in the right

amounts and at an effective dosage which won't upset my system.



Phosphydital (sp?) choline from lethicin is another option, but it's

more expensive and you have to take a lot to get the effective dosage.

Twin Labs has a choline cocktail drink mix based on this form which

also has a number of other vitamins and herbs (including ginko and 

gotu kola).  It's great stuff, but a little bit too expensive to use

all the time.



Choline does work very well for "waking up" your brain.  About a

tablespoon of choline chloride in some juice first thing in the

morning works suprisingly fast.  You may find it helpful if you're

trying to cut down on coffee.  



--Mark







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Melatonin

From: blissful@globalserve.net

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:26:41 -0700



Bob wrote:



If you search melatonin on the web, you should find lots of information.

The people on the lists are only interested in selling there own brand of

melatonin. You won't find any useful information.

*************************************************************************While it is true that commercialism is running rampant, and in ways that 

are inappropriate, some "sellers" do provide good information.  Below is 

an information report, written for Canadians, but of course, the 

information is universal.  Personal requests on mail ordering is avaiable 

from blissful@globalserve.net



MELATONINews



Canadians can now get benefits

What is melatonin?



Melatonin is a hormone which is produced naturally inside the human

pineal gland (a tiny organ in the center of the brain) that, among other

important tasks, regulates sleep.  Secretion is affected by light.  When

darkness falls, production steps up, signaling sleepiness, and with the

light of day production wanes, nudging us awake.



Children, who have the highest levels of melatonin, get the best night's

sleep (have you ever slept "like a baby"?).  At puberty, levels begin

dropping.  Sleep patterns begin changing in the 30's, unraveling in the

40's, and in the 60's problems can become profound.  By the 70's and

80's, levels can be barely perceptible and falling asleep and staying

asleep can be a trying experience nightly.



What does it do?



Melatonin can help people who have trouble getting to sleep, is effective

in treating certain sleep and body-clock disorders, such as advanced or

delayed sleep-phase syndrome, jet lag and shift-work maladaption.

Melatonin is believed to have potential also in the treatment of anxiety,

depression, seasonal affective disorder and chronic fatigue syndrome.



Until now, melatonin has been associated with changes in sleep and has

been primarily used as a supplement taken only in the evening.  However,

its recent popularity has been derived from theories of other benefits

including anti-aging, cardiovascular improvements, sexual enhancement and

even benefits for the hair and scalp.   The hormone acts as an

antioxidant, sweeping up free radicals electrically charged molecules

that otherwise roam the body chemically reacting with cell walls or DNA,

and having the potential to cause damage that can lead to anxiety,

depression, cancer, and heart disease.



Articles in Newsweek and U.S. News and World Report, segments on 20/20

and other television newsmagazine shows, and several recent books have

led to record sales of the inexpensive supplement.  The August 7, 1995

issue of Newsweek said melatonin "is poised to become one of the hottest

pills of the decade" because "recent studies suggest that supplementing

the hormone may bolster our  immune systems, keep our cells from

disintegrating, slow the growth of tumors and cataracts, and ward off

heart disease.  All that while helping us sleep better."



As with any dietary ingredient, no medical claims may be made for

melatonin at this time.  Research is ongoing.  However, research has

proven that in low doses, melatonin is an effective non-prescription

supplement to assist in the onset of sleep, and having broad use as a

treatment for insomnia and other sleep disorders.



Where can I buy melatonin?



It is available in health food stores in the U.S. and does not require

approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration because it is

considered a food supplement, not a drug.  Many Canadians are clamoring

to try a pill that can aid sleep and is being touted as a potential cure

for a spectrum of medical problems.  But few can get melatonin because it

is in short supply.



Canadian drug companies have not been interested in going through the

safety approval process because this is a hormone, a natural substance,

which cannot be patented.  Accordingly, drug companies do not want to

spend millions of dollars on studies, production equipment, advertising

and distribution, for something they will not be permitted to patent

because the body produces it.



In Canada, for the time being, melatonin falls under the Food and Drugs

Act and must meet all regulations.  Because drug companies have not to

date invested the funds to meet the Canadian Food and Drugs Act approval

requirements, it cannot be produced in Canada, or imported into Canada in

large quantities for resale.  However, melatonin is not a banned

substance;  Canadians can purchase it legally for personal use; just not

from other Canadians!



"We can't keep it in stock," said a clerk at a health food store in

Toronto.  "It sells out as soon as we get it in."  Stores in Vancouver

and Halifax reported waiting lists for supplies they cannot get because

U.S. and European producers cannot make enough to meet demand.



Where can I learn more about melatonin?



To learn more about the benefits of melatonin, we recommend:



Melatonin:  Nature's Sleeping Pill by Ray Sahelian (Be Happier Press,

US$13.95). One family physician's experience prescribing melatonin for

sleep disorders and other ills.



Melatonin:  The Anti-Aging Hormone by Suzanne LeVert (Avon Books,

US$5.99).  The one to read if you just read one.



Stay Young the Melatonin Way by Steven J. Bock and Michael Boyette

(Dutton, US$18.95).  How to raise melatonin levels.  Has a self-test to

assess lifestyle and current levels.



The Melatonin Miracle by Walter Pierpaoli and William Regelson with Carol

Colman (Simon & Schuster, US$21).  Pioneering researchers say melatonin

slows aging, fights disease and more.  Has hit the New York Times

bestsellers list.



Your Body's Natural Wonder Drug: Melatonin by Russel J. Reiter and Jo

Robinson (Bantam Books, US$22.95).  A neuroendocrinologist suggests  ways

to supplement production.



Is there anyone who should not take melatonin?



Definitely yes.  Melatonin should be avoided by:  children, pregnant or

nursing women, people trying to conceive, the mentally ill, people taking

steroids drugs, people with severe allergies or autoimmune diseases and

people with immune-system cancers such as leukemia or lymphoma.

*************************************************************************BLISSFUL Corporation, 1575 Military Rd., #13-335, Niagara Falls, NY, USA

14304-4706



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Melatonin

From: parallax@gate.net (Michael C Meyer)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 11:41:29 -0400



Does anyone know what the recommended therapeutic dosage 

of melatonin is for hard tumors (cancer)? Any help would 

be greatly appreciated!





-- Parallax   * Like your privacy? Use PGP ver. 2.6.2 today! *

   @gate.net  * Finger for "public-key" encryption!          *

       BE 1F C6 44 44 40 A0 6D   40 6C 64 BE 22 05 FD 92     *







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bronchitis

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:33:57 -0600



On 20 Jul 1996, Maureen Schmidt wrote:



> Can anyone suggest herbs for someone who has chronic bronchitis?

> 

> Thanks

> 

> Maureen



I just read something about that today in the new issue of Better Health. 

I believe the column recommended primarily echinacea and astralagus 

(sp?), and you can also try goldenseal and garlic to help boost your 

immune system. There's an echinacea/goldenseal tincture that Zand makes 

that's absolutely wonderful. It does taste terrible, though, so you might 

want to take it with honey or put it in some empty gelcaps. 



I had bronchitis for a while, too (and for some reason I 

didn't motivate myself to take any herbal cures) so I know how tough it 

can be. Best of luck to you!!



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERBS FOR HAIR

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:37:09 -0600



On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Jennifer Boggess wrote:



> > What herbs are good for hair? I mean herbs that can be made into teas and

> > added to shampoos etc. Thanks.

> 

> Chamomile is good for natural blondes - rinsing with a tea made from the

> blossoms brings out the highlights.  Plain black tea can be used the same

> way for brunettes.

> 

> Rosemary infusion or essential oil is good for the scalp and helps prevent

> dandruff.  Tea tree oil is supposed to do the same, but I've never used it

> so I can't say.



She's right - chamomile is great for bringing out the blonde. If you want 

something more potent that the ground up herb, try using the essential 

oil. Calendula (marigold) flowers will bring out more red, and lavender 

is also good for accentuating dark hair. A few other herbs I've ground 

and added to my shampoo and conditioner are nettles and yarrow.



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERBS FOR HAIR

From: buckwheat@hnehealth.com (Cap'n Buckwheat)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 17:56:16 GMT



Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU> wrote:



>On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Jennifer Boggess wrote:



>> > What herbs are good for hair? I mean herbs that can be made into teas and

>> > added to shampoos etc. Thanks.

>> 

>> Chamomile is good for natural blondes - rinsing with a tea made from the

>> blossoms brings out the highlights.  Plain black tea can be used the same

>> way for brunettes.

>> 

>> Rosemary infusion or essential oil is good for the scalp and helps prevent

>> dandruff.  Tea tree oil is supposed to do the same, but I've never used it

>> so I can't say.



>She's right - chamomile is great for bringing out the blonde. If you want 

>something more potent that the ground up herb, try using the essential 

>oil. Calendula (marigold) flowers will bring out more red, and lavender 

>is also good for accentuating dark hair. A few other herbs I've ground 

>and added to my shampoo and conditioner are nettles and yarrow.



>-Elizabeth



>^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

>Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu

I once made my hair a nice strawberry blonde using a rinse of red

zinger tea.

Cap'n Buckwheat





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Curing Herbal Smoking Blends

From: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:38:06 -0700



...of the jungle offers a couple of herbal smoking blends.

The info states that they have been cured with Hops resin

and honey.



Does anyone know how this process works.  I'm assuming that

one mixes the hops resin in honey, dilutes the mixture with

distilled water, mists it over the herbs and then puts it in

a jar in a cool dark place for several weeks.  Is this right?



Also, does anyone know where to get some hops resin?



Thanks!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menopause??what helps?

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:41:11 -0600



On 19 Jul 1996, Patricia Turrell wrote:



> 

> To the person with the question about menopause.  I have heard 

> that oriental women do not suffer from menopause as much because 

> they eat a lot of products such as tofu and other things which 

> contain soy protein.  if thier is any body out there who has heard 

> more about this please reply.

> 

>                                      Patty



I have also heard about this - I've read it in a couple of different 

places, but I don't have much new to add. I believe that soy is supposed 

to be a natural precursor of estrogen, so the symptoms of menopause are 

almost nonexistent in Asian countries. I've also heard that they don't 

have nearly the rate of breast cancer and diabetes that we do, but I'm 

not absolutely sure about that.



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menopause??what helps?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 6 Aug 1996 15:32:08 GMT



the new issue of Prevention has a really informative article on soy 

products and their effect on menopause....







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for Panic Disorder???

From: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 23:43:11 -0700



Does anyone know of any herbs specific for panic disorder?



I think that valerian root might help, but what others?



Thanks!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: anacker@fishnet.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for Panic Disorder???

From: T E I X E I R A <teixeira@ccnet.com>

Date: 3 Aug 1996 11:28:29 GMT



Chamomile and a HOT shower or bath work well.  Valerian root can 

work although I have read that some people can have a reverse 

reaction to it.......makes you anxtious.



Exercise, walks, someone to talk to all work to.  I like to keep in 

mind that the attach is kinda like a head ache.  I know it's just a 

panic attach and it will soon go away.  I find I get panic attachs if I 

let myself get stressd out or over worked.  I work at keeping the 

stress out of my life and the attachs tend to stay away.  



Don







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for Panic Disorder???

From: bodacia@tdl.com (Bo)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 20:22:32 GMT



Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net> wrote:



>Does anyone know of any herbs specific for panic disorder?



>I think that valerian root might help, but what others?



>Thanks!



Paul-



Bugleweed is *excellent* for treating panic attacks...and it's an herb

I never hear anyone talk about.



Bugleweed is a specific for detoxification (heavy metals,

environmental pollutants) and over-active thyroid.  But even if the

heart palpitations and arrythmias one experiences during panic attacks

are not caused by thyroid problems, bugleweed still seems to be

effective.  It definitely takes the edge off the panic.



Next time you feel a panic attack coming on, try 2 dropperfuls of

bugleweed tincture in a little water.



Let me know how this works for you. :)











~Bo

----------------------------------------------------------------------

bodacia@tdl.com		"Of all the animals, man is the only one that

			is cruel.  He is the only one that inflicts

			pain for the pleasure of doing it."

						-Mark Twain





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for Panic Disorder???

From: Bella Kinney <bkaldera@us1.channel1.com>

Date: 8 Aug 1996 15:11:55 GMT



Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net> wrote:

>Tom Nuckels wrote:

>> 

>> Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net> wrote in article

>> <3202F4FF.1CA5@fishnet.net>...

>> > Does anyone know of any herbs specific for panic disorder?

>> >

>> > I think that valerian root might help, but what others?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>> >

>>  have heard that in addition to valerian root these may be of use.

>> Passionflower, hops, skullcap, black chohosh, wood betony, chamomille,

>> lady's slipper, cayenne and chlorophyll.

>> 

>> Tom

>> --

>> =-=-=-=-=-=-= < Partner In Health! > -=-=-=-=-=-=

>> = http://www.worldprofit.com/health/mblpls.htm  =

>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=- newsnet1@airmail.net -=-=-=-=-=-==

>

>Gee Tom where did you hear that?  It just so happens that those are 

>the same ingredients in one of the Life Plus MLM products.  Did you

>know that?  Wow! What a coincidence!  Guess everyone better run out

>and get some!  NOT!



  I don't know about the commercial preparation but I found a nineteenth 

century recipe for "Nerve Tincture" which includes all of the above 

herbal ingredients but no chlorophyll in a Brandy based Tincture.

   It has been quite useful for a number of different nervous ailiments.

Tastes Awful but what a synergistic combination of ingredients!

                                  Bella





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for Panic Disorder???

From: kristen4@ix.netcom.com(Lynne Pruiksma)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 06:12:31 GMT





>> 

> have heard that in addition to valerian root these may be of use. 

>Passionflower, hops, skullcap, black chohosh, wood betony, chamomille,

>lady's slipper, cayenne and chlorophyll.

>





cayyene doesnt work for me cause when i panic my heart races and it

makes my heart race even more... 



auroura



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:46:06 -0600



On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, georgie wrote:



> I know that some people have had success with St. John's Wort for 

> depression. Does anyone have any information on dosage? I have started 

> with 1 tablet of 0.3% hypericin, and I realize the tinctures are probably 

> better, but of course the pills are easier. I find I have to take it 



Actually, I think you'd probably be better off to stick to the pills (in 

my opinion). Hypericin is the chemical constituant in St. John's Wort 

that has the medicinal properties, and if you know you're getting 0.3% of 

that then it means you're taking a pill that contains a standardized 

extract, which is a great way to insure the quality of what you're 

getting. Tinctures can be very potent, but there's no guarantee about the 

actually amount of the medicinal value.



-Elizabeth



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Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: howieb@teleport.com (Howie Brounstein)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 20:15:52 GMT



In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960803004302.18622B-100000@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>,

   Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU> wrote:



>Actually, I think you'd probably be better off to stick to the pills (in 

>my opinion). Hypericin is the chemical constituant in St. John's Wort 

>that has the medicinal properties, and if you know you're getting 0.3% of 

>that then it means you're taking a pill that contains a standardized 

>extract, which is a great way to insure the quality of what you're 

>getting. Tinctures can be very potent, but there's no guarantee about the 

>actually amount of the medicinal value.

>

>-Elizabeth



Oh, but lets be careful about reducing herbs to single constituents. Whole 

herbs are complex and varied. Lets take St. John's Wort as an example. The 

current (that means today, perhaps not tomorrow) belief is that the active 

constituent is hypericin, the wond'rous redfulness found in the Wort, and in 

extracts of the Wort. Yet look in some recent issue of the European Journal 

of Herbal Medicine..... St John's Wort Extract (whole plant) proves valuble 

for unipolar depression, yet similar clinical trials of pure hypericin 

utterly flop the test.



Perhaps this hypericin is not the active ingredient and has little value. 

Perhaps this hypericin is of unequaled value as a medicine when mixed with 

other chemicals found in the WHOLE PLANT.

Perhaps one single chemical will never be found to approximate the effect of 

the WHOLE PLANT.



How does this relate to buying. WHOLE HERB fresh extracts (or capsules, not 

my choice, generally of a poorer grade of dried herb) is the way to go. There 

are numerous reputable dealers of this herb.





Howie Brounstein

howieb@teleport.com

http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: St. John's Wort

From: "Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net>

Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:16:52 GMT



St. John's Wort has been a folk treatment for depression for years, but now

scientific studies are validating that it is an effective treatment for

mild depression. Has anyone out there used this herb for that purpose? Any

noticeable side effects?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: milo@voicenet.com (Michael J. Lovell)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 05:43:49 GMT



"Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net> wrote:



>St. John's Wort has been a folk treatment for depression for years, but now

>scientific studies are validating that it is an effective treatment for

>mild depression. Has anyone out there used this herb for that purpose? Any

>noticeable side effects?



I just started trying it, and I think its great.  No side effects at

all.  They say to stay out of the sun, but I think that's bull unless

you spend all of your time at the beach.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: Stephen Brock <stephen_brock@bmc.com>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:05:34 -0500



Michael J. Lovell wrote:

> 

> "Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net> wrote:

> 



> I just started trying it, and I think its great.  No side effects at

> all.  They say to stay out of the sun, but I think that's bull unless

> you spend all of your time at the beach.Different folks react differently. Just as some

folks are not sensitive to poison ivy some folks

do not become hypersensitive to the sun after

taking St. John's wort. Do not assume what

is true for you is true for all.



--Steve



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 23:19:53 -0700



"Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net> writes:

> St. John's Wort has been a folk treatment for depression for years, but now

> scientific studies are validating that it is an effective treatment for

> mild depression. Has anyone out there used this herb for that purpose? Any

> noticeable side effects?

> 



Looking for more specific info, I was wondering WHERE the studies 

appeared? I read a few paragraphs in the local paper, but would like to 

see the studies. Also, any reason not to take it long-time ( a few weeks 

or more?)

______________________________________________________________________



Louis Cornelio 		   "I asked for water, she gave me gasoline."

lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu 		- Howlin' Wolf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 06:24:12 -0400



In article <4vble9$6gv@cello.gina.calstate.edu>,

lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio) writes:



>Looking for more specific info, I was wondering WHERE the studies 

>appeared? 



Reichert RG: St John's wort for depression. Q Rev Nat Med Spring: 17-18,

1984



Holzl J, Demisch L, & Gollnik B: Investigations about antidepressive and

mood changing effects of Hypericum perforatum. Planta Med 55:643, 1989



Muldner VH & Zoller M: Antidepressive effect of hypericum extract

standardized to the active hypericin complex: Biochemistry and clinical

studies. Arzneim-Forsch Drug Res 34:918-920, 1984.

[from Herbal Prescriptions For Better Health, pp321-322]



The problem is not so much finding the research as finding a library that

has these journals. Try your local medical library or university.  Medline

is a somewhat effective resource (not all the naturopathic journals are on

it).



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: St. John's Wort

From: "Amy E. Brown" <amyb@iprax.com>

Date: 19 Aug 1996 21:59:46 GMT



Hi folks --



Does anyone know whether St. John's Wort conflicts with anti-

depressant medication such as Prozac?



Amy

amyb@iprax.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 21 Aug 1996 07:04:03 -0700



"Amy E. Brown" <amyb@iprax.com> wrote:



>Hi folks --



>Does anyone know whether St. John's Wort conflicts with anti-

>depressant medication such as Prozac?



   Because they ar eboth boosting the same brain chemical, the use of 

St. John's Wort  at the same time as Prozac might make the dose of

both unreliable ... accidentally overdosing would become easier.

  Let your doctor know what you are planning and get ready to adjust

the dosage of the Prozac down as needed.





Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal mailing list?

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:59:48 -0600



On Sun, 21 Jul 1996, Michael Redman wrote:



> Could anyone recommend herbal mailing list(s)?



I finally found the address! Write to listserv@trearnpc.ege.edu.tr with 

the message text subscribe herb. Remember - this is a very high volume list!



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: DHEA and weight loss?

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:09:03 -0600



I recently had a bodybuilder bring me an article that stated that high 

levels of DHEA (a program ranging from 25 to 200 mg) will help you lose 

fat and increase lean muscle mass *without* excercising. Has anybody else 

heard something like this about the infamous "life-extension hormone"? 

Thanks.



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Question about ech. & goldenseal

From: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:13:01 -0600



I've heard conflicting things about these two herbs. Everyone seems to 

agree that they have antibiotic properties, but some people say that they 

actually boost your immune system while others say they have a tendency 

to kill off your healthy bacteria (just like conventional antibiotics) so 

you should take acidophilus if you're taking the herbs for an extended 

period of time. Does anyone have more info? Thanks.



-Elizabeth



^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Question about ech. & goldenseal

From: Martha Boufford <isretred@pacificnet.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 23:09:04 -0700



Elizabeth Williams wrote:

> 

> I've heard conflicting things about these two herbs. Everyone seems to

> agree that they have antibiotic properties, but some people say that they

> actually boost your immune system while others say they have a tendency

> to kill off your healthy bacteria (just like conventional antibiotics) so

> you should take acidophilus if you're taking the herbs for an extended

> period of time. Does anyone have more info? Thanks.

> 

> -Elizabeth

> 

> ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

> Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu

Yes both have antibiotic type properties, they boost the immune system, 

and do not kill off good bacteria.  Golden Seal should not be taken for 

prolonged periods of time.  More info. e-mail me.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Question about ech. & goldenseal

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 01:42:45 GMT



Hi Elizabeth....

	Well, you're half right. 

	Firstly, echinacia does have some antibacterial properties, however,

it is more anti-viral and most definitely encourages white blood cell

production. It stimulates macrophage activity and increases production

of T-cells. Since it is an immune system stimulant, many people use

echinacea daily during the seasons where they need the boost, as

during the winter months, or if their immune system is compromised in

any way. However, not to be taken, as previously thought, by AIDS

individuals as it increases T-cell procution, giving the HIV virus

additional means of attachment.

	Golden Seal, on the other hand, is most definitely an anti-bacterial

agent having some immune system enhancements. Golden Seal is extremely

powerful in fighting bacterial or viral infection. It is used as an

anti-biotic. Hence, one should only take Golden Seal for no more than

10 days. Then come off for a week. It is so powerful that you would

run the risk of destroying the natural flora that exists in the

intestines. If this does happen, just take acidophilus to help

replenish the friendly bacteria and yeasts, or eat some natural

unflavored yogurt.



Hope this helps.....



John, Eden's Emporium.





Elizabeth Williams <will2099@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU> wrote:



>I've heard conflicting things about these two herbs. Everyone seems to 

>agree that they have antibiotic properties, but some people say that they 

>actually boost your immune system while others say they have a tendency 

>to kill off your healthy bacteria (just like conventional antibiotics) so 

>you should take acidophilus if you're taking the herbs for an extended 

>period of time. Does anyone have more info? Thanks.



>-Elizabeth



>^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

>Elizabeth Williams                               will2099@blue.univnorthco.edu









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Liver Spots

From: lists.jrh@dial.pipex.com (Josiah Hincks)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 07:30:51 GMT



Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent / clear-up liver

spots using herbs?



Thanks, Josiah



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Liver Spots

From: Martha Boufford <isretred@pacificnet.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 22:40:02 -0700



Josiah Hincks wrote:

> 

> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent / clear-up liver

> spots using herbs?

> 

> Thanks, JosiahYes, a friend took anti oxident/ pycnoginal type product for another 

reason and the liver spots cleared up too.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Martha Boufford <isretred@pacificnet.net>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Liver Spots

From: Peter & Diane Wilkinson <p&d.wilkinson@hunterlink.net.au>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:05:40 -0700



Martha Boufford wrote:

> 

> Josiah Hincks wrote:

> >

> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent / clear-up liver

> > spots using herbs?

> >



Martha, try rubbing Castor oil on to the spots. I am currently studying 

herbal medicine and have been taught that this simple remedy will fade 

liver spots. My mother tried it and was very pleased with the results.

Let me know how it goes!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: gingko

From: mmay@lisp.com.au (Moira Ismay)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 08:01:58 GMT



Hi



Can anyone help!



I have been reading an article about gingko Sounds as though it has lots 

of benefits health-wise



Does anyone know how it would effect high blood-pressure. 









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: gingko

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 01:35:25 GMT



Gingko is a circulatory stimulant, improving blood flow to the

extremeties. Used primarilly for memory enhancement by increasing

cranial blood flow, also used in cases of impotence where a vascular

problem is present. 



May help high blood pressure, although not proven, by strengthening

veins and arteries and reducing plaque deposits. However, gingko

prevents platelet aggregation, which means that it decreases ones

ability to clot effectively. Therefore, should not be taken by anyone

who is presently on blood thinners.



Hope this helps,  John,  Eden's Emporium.





mmay@lisp.com.au (Moira Ismay) wrote:



>Hi



>Can anyone help!



>I have been reading an article about gingko Sounds as though it has lots 

>of benefits health-wise



>Does anyone know how it would effect high blood-pressure. 













From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: COSMETIC RECIPES

From: emeerwald@alpha2.curtin.edu.au

Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 16:27:38 +800



I have posted a request for anyone with useful cosmetic recipes before and

wondered if anyone out there has found anything that they can share or

exchange? Please email me directly. Thanks!





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: COSMETIC RECIPES

From: vwinter@aol.com (VWinter)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 03:37:45 -0400



there is a book that came out in April, called Good Gifts from the Home by

Kelly Reno...that tells how to make different things at home....also,

Jeanne Rose has severval books  on this subject including...Herbal Body

Book...Jeanne's books are in a lot of natural food or New Age stores...

hope the above..helps...:)

Susie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herb supplier in Central NY???

From: JCollier@J51.com (John M. Collier)

Date: 16 Jul 96 20:35:53 -500



Val,

Swissette Herb Farm in Salisbury Mills, NY is a great source (914-496-7841).

I'm not sure if they're close to you or not though.

         John





>Hello, does any one know where I can find a wide variety of herbs in

>central/upstate NY?

>---

>

>

>Val



>ValRussell@envirolink.org





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herb supplier in Central NY???

From: optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:07:21 -0400



I buy most of my herbs bulk and bottled from Lori's Natural Foods 900

Jefferson Rd Rochester NY. 



Jeff Yentzer-  Optahealth@aol.com

Optimum Health Newsletter

http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Skin Tags

From: witchdoc@aol.com (Witchdoc)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 09:02:53 -0400



My sister and I both are plagued with skin tags especially on our necks. 

I actually had a MD remove mine a few years back but a new bunch is

growing back.  Does anyone know of a safe natural way to remove these? 

I'd appreciate e-mail answers. Thanks



==========

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skin Tags

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 19:56:30 -0700



Cap'n Buckwheat wrote:

> 

> witchdoc@aol.com (Witchdoc) wrote:

> 

> >My sister and I both are plagued with skin tags especially on our necks.

> >I actually had a MD remove mine a few years back but a new bunch is

> >growing back.  Does anyone know of a safe natural way to remove these?

> >I'd appreciate e-mail answers. Thanks

> 

> Please post these answers too, as I need a remedy also!

> Thxs,

> Cap'n Buckwheat



I have been told that skin tags are a result of a viral infection.  Not that you have 

the responsible virus now, but that you had it at one time... and yes, they do keep 

coming back.  They seem to be associated with sweat, as men and women both get them on 

their knecks, underarms, etc... women often get them under their breasts.  I don't 

know of any herbal way to treat this, but would really be curious, if any one knows 

anything about this.



Solis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skin Tags

From: Kris  Gammon <AncientOne@gnn.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:22:26





>I have been told that skin tags are a result of a

> viral infection.  Not that you have 

>the responsible virus now, but that you had it at one

> time... and yes, they do keep 

>coming back.  They seem to be associated with sweat,

> as men and women both get them on 

>their knecks, underarms, etc... women often get them

> under their breasts.  I don't 

>know of any herbal way to treat this, but would really

> be curious, if any one knows 

>anything about this.

>Solis



Not that this would work for everyone, but my husband had

one on his face and one under his arm. He has been using

cat's claw for the last 6 months. After about 2 months, 

the one on his face shrank until it disappeared. The one 

under his arm dried up and fell off.  He has been taking

two 500 mg capsules twice a day. 



Kris





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skin Tags

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 8 Aug 1996 14:35:48 GMT



Edgar Cayge recommended cold-pressed castor oil....rub it on nightly and 

it will get rid of em......I have used this on my face and it really 

does work, but like so many natural remedies, it takes time!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skin Tags

From: cigolott@nbnet.nb.ca (tom c.)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 02:07:19 GMT



In message <4u82p2$5mu@clark.zippo.com> - buckwheat@hnehealth.com (Cap'n

Buckwheat) writes:

]

]witchdoc@aol.com (Witchdoc) wrote:

]

]>My sister and I both are plagued with skin tags especially on our necks. 

]>I actually had a MD remove mine a few years back but a new bunch is

]>growing back.  Does anyone know of a safe natural way to remove these? 

]>I'd appreciate e-mail answers. Thanks

]

]Please post these answers too, as I need a remedy also!

]Thxs,

]Cap'n Buckwheat

]



I tried putting some tea tree oil on mine....sorta accidently.....did

this for a couple of days and within a week it dropped off.....another

reappeared near that location though....who knows.????



BTW when they cut it off, did they do a biopsy to see what it was ????



would be interesting







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skin Tags

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 13 Aug 1996 21:21:51 GMT



i had a few skin tags cut off years ago...the biopsy showed nothing.  the 

dermatologist said skin tags were "normal" and that brunettes get them 

more often than blondes.  ??????





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: diet tip

From: greenoboe@aol.com (GreenOboe)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 12:04:34 -0400



papaya enzyme tablets are also wonderful for aiding digestion, with or

without the chlorophyl.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Thanks for the Rescue Recommendation!!

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:05:15 GMT



Thanks, Meadow and Elaine for the "Rescue" info!



This stuff is *wonderful*!!  Wish I'd known about it before.  I've always 

been very skeptical of homeopathic type medicines - I don't know if this 

qualifies as one of those but it is *great*!!



(Can you tell that it works for me??!!)



dn





Meadow Woody wrote:

> Dear Della,

> 

> What works for me the best is rescue remedy, which not only

> calms me but also physically relaxes me.  Also getting exercise

> regularly.

> 

>elemay <elemay@nh.ultranet.com> wrote:

> Rescue is a Bach Flower remedy available in any health store.

> 

> Elaine :)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Calendula

From: David Aimone <nesc@albany.net>

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 20:50:30 +0000



I've got a healthy Calendula marigold plant growing.  It is an annual in 

NYS.



How do I either:



Winter it over, or aid it to reseed???



David K. Aimone

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: nesc@albany.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Calendula

From: Jodi <jo.ferri@sympatico.ca>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 01:27:22 GMT



David Aimone <nesc@albany.net> wrote:

>I've got a healthy Calendula marigold plant growing.  It is an annual in 

>NYS.

>

>How do I either:

>

>Winter it over, or aid it to reseed???

>

>David K. Aimone

>-- 

>_________________________________________________________________

>





I believe Calendulas are annual plants.  I always try to grow several 

plants together to aid in pollination then allow a few of the flowers to 

go to seed.  I let some of them scatter on the ground but I also collect 

some seed to start in pots in the spring to guarantee that I will have 

lots of plants.  Any left over seed after my own indoor planting I just 

scatter in the spring where I intend to grow the  calendula and hope for 

some extras.



Good luck,



Jodi





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herniated disk/ what to take & not to take

From: sindara@pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 21:41:07 GMT



I just found out that I have a herniated disk. I have injured this

area before so it doesn't surprise me. I am interested in what herbs

would help the healing process and perhaps help to prevent further

injury and what not to take. I am also interested in what vitamin

supplements could help or aggravate the conditiion. Also if the herb

is not safe during pregnancy or can hinder conception, let me know.



Sharon





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Essential Oils for Memory

From: annette_k@chch.planet.org.nz (Annette Knowler)

Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 22:13:25 GMT





I am a tutor at the local Polytechnic and am involved in teaching

accelerated learning.  



I am interested to know if any-one has some references to established

scientific journals regarding vapourised essential oils to enhance

learning.  I have limited access to computerised data bases and have

exhausted these avenues.



I would appreciate any responces, thanks in advance.



Annette





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: How does Hypericin (St. John Wort active component) work in detail?

From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)

Date: 4 Aug 1996 00:34:24 GMT



Well, just curious about what I drink every day. Does anyone know where I can 

find a report on the details of the chemical and biological effects of 

Hypericin and why it is a phototoxin?



--

Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net]





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How does Hypericin (St. John Wort active component) work in detail?

From: howieb@teleport.com (Howie Brounstein)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 20:02:45 GMT



In article <4u0r6g$90j@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>,

   frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote:

>Well, just curious about what I drink every day. Does anyone know where I 

can 

>find a report on the details of the chemical and biological effects of 

>Hypericin and why it is a phototoxin?

>





Frank,



Perhaps you should be researching if it is phototoxic, not why it is. An 

in-depth discussion of this topic by some decent herbalists (gleaned from the 

herb mailing list) can be found from my homepage (adress below)





Howie Brounstein

howieb@teleport.com

http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.drugs.misc,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Availability/side-effects of Woad

From: cos@cs.pdx.edu (John C Costello)

Date: 3 Aug 1996 17:59:47 -0700



Hello.  Does anyone know of the availability of Woad, an herb which has been

used for dying wool.  Also, does anyone know the possible side-effects of

dying oneself with woad?  I have heard stories that the Celtic and pre-Celtic

races smeared woad on their bodies prior to battle, because of the psycho-

tropic effects of the herb.  I am considering using woad as a dye for a

costume, and would like to know beforehand whether or not it will make me

see the little faeries. :)



Thanks,



Cos



-- 

--------

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www:  http://www.ee.pdx.edu/~cos



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs and stuff?

From: ue940@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Brock R. Bailey)

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:59:59 GMT





What I'am looking for imformation on what herbs grow best here in the 

Pacific Northwest and on Vancouver Island during the winter,I'am also 

intrested in any imformation on the best veg plants to put in for a 

winter garden as I think that I should start planning soon for my padio 

garden.I currently have pepper plants,tomato plants and lots of herbs.



I currently have Aferican purple bal and tyme,tarrigon,rosemary and some 

others.What do the rest of you recomment as I get the sunshine most of 

the day.Got any ideas and does anyone have tips on drying the herbs that 

I don't already know?My herb dryer is the large four -six shelf ronco 

herb dryer.I'am also intrested in if anyone also has imformation on herb 

grinding and storage tips .....Well gota go water my herbs in this nice 

hot sunshine.....Oh boy I needed that drink...........................



Brock R. Bailey

ue940@freenet.victoria.bc.ca





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: SLEEP! Beautiful sleep...

From: tls@sonic.net (Brian Fisk)

Date: 4 Aug 1996 07:05:15 GMT



Combine the following and enjoy beautiful sleep!



hops

kava-kava

motherwort

mugwort

skullcap



Get to sleep easier and enjoy fantastic dreams!

You can get these herbs at a good health food store

and combine them yourself in gelatin capsules, also

available at health food stores. For quantities, see

any good herbal book, like: A Handbook of Native 

American Herbs, by Alma R. Hutchens, Shambhala 1992

	Kava-kava has been used by Polynesian islanders

for a long time as a dream enhancer. Hops, skullcap 

and motherwort are all reknowned for their sleep-inducing 

qualities. Mugwort, like kava-kava, is used to induce dreams 

of a vivid, sometimes prophetic nature.

	As with all herbs, please don't overdo! Try to find 

your own "comfort zone" by using "common" sense and your

gut instinct. As children of this Earth, we are all heirs to

the bounty it provides. So use what you have inherited!

				Love, B.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: SLEEP! Beautiful sleep...

From: swift@crl.com (Scott)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 15:05:33 GMT



Hi Brian, I just posted a request for some relaxing herb recipies

to put on a new home page, Looks like you have one going :)



How about sending me a recipie for yor tea, and it's effects. I'd

love to post in on my page. I'll have it on the net in a day or

two at URL http://www.crl.com/~swift/





Thanks, Scotty



Also if you have any other relaxing herb recipies :)



BTW check out my post in the herb news group, I put a little report in

it on Passion Flower

tls@sonic.net (Brian Fisk) shared:



>Combine the following and enjoy beautiful sleep!



>hops

>kava-kava

>motherwort

>mugwort

>skullcap



>Get to sleep easier and enjoy fantastic dreams!

>You can get these herbs at a good health food store

>and combine them yourself in gelatin capsules, also

>available at health food stores. For quantities, see

>any good herbal book, like: A Handbook of Native 

>American Herbs, by Alma R. Hutchens, Shambhala 1992

>	Kava-kava has been used by Polynesian islanders

>for a long time as a dream enhancer. Hops, skullcap 

>and motherwort are all reknowned for their sleep-inducing 

>qualities. Mugwort, like kava-kava, is used to induce dreams 

>of a vivid, sometimes prophetic nature.

>	As with all herbs, please don't overdo! Try to find 

>your own "comfort zone" by using "common" sense and your

>gut instinct. As children of this Earth, we are all heirs to

>the bounty it provides. So use what you have inherited!

>				Love, B.









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Q: Use of Horsetail?

From: Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk (Tony Halmarack)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 13:12:26 +0100



Dear Herb Lovers,



My wife is beginning to use horsetail on a regular basis to

remedy menopausal symptoms. Can anyone please advise on the

most effective way of using this herb and any contraindications.



Thanks in advance,

-- 

Tony Halmarack =(*)= Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Q: Use of Horsetail?

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 01:28:52 GMT



Hi Tony.....

	I've never heard of horsetail being used primarilly for menopausal

symptoms. It does, however, increase absorption of calcium, which is

exellent for osteoporosis prevention. In addition, it helps prevent

build up of fatty deposits in the circulatory system, thus helping

prevent such age diseases as arteriosclerosis. Most people use

horsetail for strengthening finger nails and restoring lifeless hair

because of its rich source of silica.

	But as far as preventing hot flashes, night sweats, etc., never heard

or read that horsetail helps.

	Don't know of any contraindications so it's pretty safe. So if it's

working for your wife, then let her continue.

	Hope this has helped.



John, Eden's Emporium





Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk (Tony Halmarack) wrote:



>Dear Herb Lovers,



>My wife is beginning to use horsetail on a regular basis to

>remedy menopausal symptoms. Can anyone please advise on the

>most effective way of using this herb and any contraindications.



>Thanks in advance,

>-- 

>Tony Halmarack =(*)= Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Q: Use of Horsetail?

From: leronis@worldnet.att.net (leronis)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 02:48:58 GMT



jmidura@map.com (john midura) wrote:



>Hi Tony.....

>	I've never heard of horsetail being used primarilly for menopausal

>symptoms. It does, however, increase absorption of calcium, which is

>exellent for osteoporosis prevention. In addition, it helps prevent

>build up of fatty deposits in the circulatory system, thus helping

>prevent such age diseases as arteriosclerosis. Most people use

>horsetail for strengthening finger nails and restoring lifeless hair

>because of its rich source of silica.

>	But as far as preventing hot flashes, night sweats, etc., never heard

>or read that horsetail helps.

>	Don't know of any contraindications so it's pretty safe. So if it's

>working for your wife, then let her continue.

>	Hope this has helped.



>John, Eden's Emporium





>Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk (Tony Halmarack) wrote:



What about side effects and contraindications?  And what about effects

of long-term use?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Q: Use of Horsetail?

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:11:32 -0500



In article <4ubk7r$i4i@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

leronis@worldnet.att.net (leronis) wrote:



> jmidura@map.com (john midura) wrote:

> 

> >Hi Tony.....

> >       I've never heard of horsetail being used primarilly for menopausal

> >symptoms. It does, however, increase absorption of calcium, which is

> >exellent for osteoporosis prevention. In addition, it helps prevent

> >build up of fatty deposits in the circulatory system, thus helping

> >prevent such age diseases as arteriosclerosis. Most people use

> >horsetail for strengthening finger nails and restoring lifeless hair

> >because of its rich source of silica.

> >       But as far as preventing hot flashes, night sweats, etc., never heard

> >or read that horsetail helps.

> >       Don't know of any contraindications so it's pretty safe. So if it's

> >working for your wife, then let her continue.

> >       Hope this has helped.

> 

> >John, Eden's Emporium

> 

> 

> >Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk (Tony Halmarack) wrote:

> 

> What about side effects and contraindications?  And what about effects

> of long-term use?



There is a caution on horsetail. It can be irritating to the kidneys when

used for prolonged periods. Like everyday for more than one month. It

works better in small frequent doses. My suggestion is Wild Yam. This herb

can be taken for long periods of time safely and effectively.

Catherine

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Q: Use of Horsetail?

From: Peter.Bijlsma@net.HCC.nl (Peter Bijlsma)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 20:37:34 GMT



Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk (Tony Halmarack) wrote:



>Dear Herb Lovers,



>My wife is beginning to use horsetail on a regular basis to

>remedy menopausal symptoms. Can anyone please advise on the

>most effective way of using this herb and any contraindications.



>Thanks in advance,

>-- 

>Tony Halmarack =(*)= Tony@halmarax.demon.co.uk



Hello Tony,



I never heard of horsetail used for menopausal symptoms. In my opinion

it is a diurethic and is rich of minerals. However, if your wife has

diurethic problems, she can use it as tea or as a homeopathic medicin.

Water must be boiled together with the horsetail for 15 to 20 minutes

and then sieve it. Use is two glasse a day. WARNING: horsetail is

light toxic. Take it no longer than 6 weeks. Wait then a few months

before using it again. 



For menopause problems better take Cowberries (Vaccinium vitis-idaea).

For hot flashes and night sweets take tea from Sage (Salvia

officinalis). If she _and you :-) _ like garlic, that will help also.

A calcium and magnesium mineral is a must too. Swim or make a walk

daily if possible.



All the best for you and your wife,







Ria Bijlsma, 

the Netherlands

===============





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: Natural Remedies Store

From: Jim Almon <aroma@earthlink.net>

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 13:01:05 +0000



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instructions to aroma@earthlink.net.

>>

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are recomended and method of application.. 

>>

Most of the oils you should be able to find in your local area.

>>

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http://home.earthlink.net/~aroma/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs to repel mice

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 13:28:22 GMT



Mice hate peppermint



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs to repel mice

From: griffith@kendaco.telebyte.com (Suzanne Griffith)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 19:33:55 GMT



They also hate cats



sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) wrote:



>Mice hate peppermint







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: hair conditioner

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 13:44:31 GMT



Here are a few:

    2 oz. unsweetened condensed milk

    1 T. wheat germ oil

    1 oz. thick decoction cherry bark

Apply to wet hair and leave on 5 to 15 minutes

Weird but it works well!Also:

Basil or lavender essential oil combed through the hair is a good conditioner.

I have some recipes for more but they are specific to the type hair you are 

trying to condition(oily, dry, etc.)

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: sore throats

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 13:48:09 GMT



In water warm as you can stand,mix:

     1/2 tsp. salt

     1/2 tsp baking soda

Gargla with this and it will dull the pain and help kill the bug.If doesn't 

work try vinegar instead of the soda 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: sore throats

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu

Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:53:54 GMT



In article <4u29al$p8s@tkhut.sojourn.com> sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) writes:





>In water warm as you can stand,mix:

>     1/2 tsp. salt

>     1/2 tsp baking soda

>Gargla with this and it will dull the pain and help kill the bug.If doesn't 

>work try vinegar instead of the soda 



The gargle will help, but as for killing the infection not really.  The pain 

is from the inflammation of the lymph nodes in the throat as well as surface 

irritation.  The surface you can help with this gargle, but the internal this 

gargle will not help.



==========

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: panic attacks

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 13:51:30 GMT



I f you are getting panic attacks secondary to mitral valve prolapse a hot 

bath is not a good idea;in general warm is better than hot.Lavender essential 

oil can also help.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs for blood circulation

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 13:55:02 GMT



Cayenne pepper is good,you can take it in gelatin capsules but start out small 

and find the right dose for you.Also  ginger root,this you can take internally 

or apply topically, say, to legs or wherever needed.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: mugwort

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 14:06:29 GMT



Please do not use mugwort on a regular basis!It is poisoinous.Yes it is 

damaging to your nervous system and the sleep you are getting is better 

because mugwort is a drug and it's not a natural sleep.Mugwort should not be 

used at all.Try chamomile, valerian, or some other sleep inducing herb 

instead.

   



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mugwort

From: unisherry@aol.com (Uni Sherry)

Date: 6 Aug 1996 13:03:33 -0400



Mugwort is not poisonous!



      Or perhaps I should say that Everything is poisonous if used

incorrectly or in excessive amounts.  Mugwort has been very successfully

used in treating reproductive problems such as irregular menstral cycles

or cramps.  Where have you heard that this herb is poisonous??



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: mugwort

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 96 23:52:41 GMT



Yes any thing can be harmful if overdone,but any credible herbalisr will 

tell you that mugwort can be toxic in large doses or if used over a long 

period of time.And, yes, mugwort is a specific for certain 

conditions.However, a person who uses it nightly simply so they can have 

cool dreams is abusing this powerful drug-yes herbs are drugs too.As for 

the sleep inducing effects there are much safer herbs to use.No lay 

person(and I suspect the person taking mugwort nightly is exactly 

that)should be self medicating without the guidance of a trained 

herbalist.There is no homeopathic,allopathic,or naturopathic medicine 

that should be used so consistantly for so long for a reason that is not 

medically urgent.One of the most poisonous liquors (banned in the U.S.)is 

made from the artemesia family,which mugwort is.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mugwort

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 14:34:36 GMT



On Tue, 06 Aug 96 23:52:41 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs sjahner@sojourn.com

(Stephen Jahner) wrote:



>Yes any thing can be harmful if overdone, but any credible herbalist will 

>tell you that mugwort can be toxic in large doses or if used over a long 

>period of time. And, yes, mugwort is a specific for certain 

>conditions. However, a person who uses it nightly simply so they can have 

>cool dreams is abusing this powerful drug - yes herbs are drugs too. As for 

>the sleep inducing effects there are much safer herbs to use. No lay 

>person (and I suspect the person taking mugwort nightly is exactly 

>that) should be self medicating without the guidance of a trained 

>herbalist. There is no homeopathic, allopathic, or naturopathic medicine 

>that should be used so consistently for so long for a reason that is not 

>medically urgent. One of the most poisonous liquors (banned in the U.S.) is 

>made from the artemisia family, which mugwort is.



So you equal Artemisia vulgaris (mugwort) with Artemisia absinthium (wormwood)?

Not very smart. These two are widely apart chemically and in their actions.



Unless you are allergic to mugwort pollen (lots of folks are) I don't object to

your taking mugwort over an extended period of time - you have to know why you

are taking it, of course, and monitor your health, but that's why we usually

come equipped with brains.



Your blasting of layman use of herbs is uncalled for; especially as there is a

huge deficit of trained and qualified herbalists in large parts of the world.



Finally, herbs in general are not drugs. Drugs are mostly derived from herbs,

but that's another matter. Also, let's exclude things like Digitalis from this

discussion.



What are herbs then, if not drugs? Used correctly, before an imbalance turns

into a pathology, they are subtle agents nudging you towards a balance. 

While conceding that expertise in this type of herb usage is not very easy to

achieve, I nonetheless hold that this is what herbalists should always try for.

This is something that conventional medicine can never do, as it does not even

acknowledge imbalances.



Henriette                                                 mailed and posted.



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mugwort

From: rastapoo@mailhost.winnet.net (Rastapoodle)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 18:08:15 GMT



HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress) wrote:



>So you equal Artemisia vulgaris (mugwort) with Artemisia absinthium (wormwood)?

>Not very smart. These two are widely apart chemically and in their actions.



Hello, Henriette: Glad to see you're back from vacation.  I was just about to jump into

this Mugwort fray when you added your articulate two cents.



I would like to clarify some other point that was raised in one of the Mugwort posts. When

someone said that mugwort was the active ingredient in a liquor banned in the States, they

were mixing apples and oranges.



Artemisia absinthium (wormwood) was used in the liquor Absinthe until the early part of

this century, until the country of France recognized that it had 50,000 absinthe addicts

in their midst.  Remember Lautrec's famous painting "The Absinthe Drinker"?   Since the

early part of the century, absinthe extract has been modified so that the addictive

element is no longer present.  So much for that 'fact' as put for the by the ill-informed

poster.



Mugwort itself was widely used in the Middle Ages and beyond as an additive flavoring to

beer -- hence the name "mug" (obvious) and "wort" (Old Anglo/Saxon name for herb or

plant).  Perhaps I should dig up some of the old Mugwort beer recipes and see if they

conjure up fabulous dreams as the mugwort pillows do.  BTW, a common sensation of mugwort

dream pillows is the feeling that you are travelling through space, perhaps outer space,

visiting other realms.  



Kind of reminds me of my university anthropology research into the use of Daturas

worldwide in initiation and divination rites, when peoples of all cultures reported the

sensation of flying and finding lost objects................. but that's another thread, I

guess.......................



                        One Love, Always.... Anya

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mugwort

From: kmarz@macalstr.edu

Date: 18 Aug 96 14:17:08 CST



I'm sorry I missed the weeks of postings concerning mugwort, but I was planning

to grow it next year and use it in dream pillows and herbal baths.  What was

the consensus on its safety?  Thanks!





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Request - info on Your Favorite Relaxing Herb :)

From: swift@crl.com (Scott)

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 14:46:23 GMT



Thanks for taking the time to help. I'm planning on adding a

page on my home page with info on realxing herbs, tea recipies 

ect.



I'm hoping some of the group can post or e-mail me their favorite

realxing herb or herbs, especialy with first hand knowlage and

experiance. If I get some responces I'll be sure to post them, and

give the author credit.



Below I've posted my little report on passion flower. Thanks in 

advance for your replies, and please feel to correct me on any

error I've made in my Passion Flower report



Thanks Scotty





Passion Flower - Passiflora incarnata



     Passiflora incarnata (picture above) grows wild as a

     native weed across the Southern U.S., and is commonly

     called May Pops, or May Apples because of it's ediable,

     lime colored fruit. It blooms throughout the Summer 

     showing off it's most beautiful, and intricate purple

     flower. This herbaceous vine is also know as Purple

     Passion Flower. 



     Passiflora incarnata is the only specie of the over 400

     species of Passiflora that can be used medicinally. Most

     all other species contain toxins harmful to humans. The

     active ingrediants in Passiflora incarnata are harmane,

     harmol, harmaline, harmine, and harmalol. 



     Passion Flower is used as a tranquillizer and seditive,

     and has been used medically for the treatment of

     Parkinson's Disease. I've personally had much experiance

     with Passion Flower, and have discovered that a little is

     better than alot. 



     Common preparation is by making a tea, either out of

     fresh picked herb, commercial dry tea, or tincure. For

     fresh herb I use 2 table spoons of fresh cut leaf, or 1

     to 2 teaspoons of dried herb in 12 to 14 oz of spring

     water. Bring the water to a boil and add the herb, remove

     heat, and steep for at least 5 minutes, and strain out

     the used leaf. When using a tincure to make tea, I

     generally use 6 to 10 drops, more than that actually

     makes me a little hyper. One note, Passiflora incarnata

     is a mild MAO inhibitor, and perhaps you sould take care

     if you are using a medication that cound contradict it's

     use. 



     Passion Flower's effect is one of a sedate, peacefull

     feeling, and is an excellent as a sleeping aid or

     tranquillizer. It can be also be usefull in combination

     with Chamomile, or Valeriana officinalis. 









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Latin name for some herbs ?

From: Marko Habjan <marko.habjan@kiss.uni-lj.si>

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 21:32:08 -0700



Does anyone know latin name for next herbs:

- wood betony = ?

- lemonbalm = ?

- stevia herb = ?



Thanks



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Latin name for some herbs ?

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 17:07:00 -0700



Marko Habjan wrote:

> 

> Does anyone know latin name for next herbs:



Lykos answered:



wood betony = Stachys betonica (BENTH) or Betonica officinalis (LINN.)

lemonbalm =   Melissa officinalis (LINN.)

stevia herb = Sorry, this one is new to me.



All the best,

Lykos



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Latin name for some herbs ?

From: hobartice@usa.pipeline.com(Garry P)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 13:19:57 GMT



On Aug 04, 1996 21:32:08 in article <Latin name for some herbs ?>, 'Marko

Habjan <marko.habjan@kiss.uni-lj.si>' wrote: 

 

 

>Does anyone know latin name for next herbs: 

>- wood betony = ? 

>- lemonbalm = ? 

>- stevia herb = ? 

> 

>Thanks 

 

The book I have says Wood Betony is( Betonica officinalis, Stachys

officinalis) 

        a.k.a. Bishopwort, Lousewort, Beefsteak Plant. 

I don't have Lemonbalm, just Lemon Grass - don't know if that's the same

thing (?). 

For Stevia it has (Stevia rebaudiana) a.k.a. Sweet Herb 

Does this help any? 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Latin name for some herbs ?

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:36:25 GMT



Hi Gary

> 

>>Does anyone know latin name for next herbs: 

>>- wood betony = ? 

Stachys officinialis



>>- lemonbalm = ? 

Melissa officinalis



>>- stevia herb = ? 

>> 

 

>I don't have Lemonbalm, just Lemon Grass - don't know if that's the same

>thing (?).  

Nope!





Hope this helps

Carol





Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Latin name for some herbs ?

From: "richard or heather rudnicki" <rudnicki@inav.net>

Date: 5 Aug 1996 18:22:38 GMT



lemon balm (yes, two words) is Melissa officinalis



don't know the other two off the top of my head.  mybe you should go to a

book store and get a good, $5, paperback "herb encyclopedia".



heather



Marko Habjan <marko.habjan@kiss.uni-lj.si> wrote in article

<32057948.6D90@kiss.uni-lj.si>...

> Does anyone know latin name for next herbs:

> - wood betony = ?

> - lemonbalm = ?

> - stevia herb = ?

> 

> Thanks

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Is there such a herb?

From: Darryl Bach <dbach@highlander.cbnet.ns.ca>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 02:24:40 -0300



Hello to all, :)

 I was just wondering if there is a type of herb that could be drank as

a tea or taken in a gel cap from that will dry the skin. I have oily

skin and develop a lot of pipmles. I took a cycle of Acutane, which is a

derivitate of vitamin A. It cleared up for awhile then came back. I

don't want to use Acutane again as it is VERY strong and not natural. I

was taking a lot of vitamin A hoping it would have the same affect, (it

didn't at all) then I quit with the vitamin A when I found it was a

toxin and remains in your system.

 If anyone knows of any herb or combination of herbs I'd really like to

hear from you. You can e-mail me or post it here, whatever is easier for

responses.

 Thank you in advance, Darryl



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Is there such a herb?

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 22:44:31 -0700



Darryl Bach wrote:

> 

> Hello to all, :)

>  I was just wondering if there is a type of herb that could be drank as

> a tea or taken in a gel cap from that will dry the skin. I have oily

> skin and develop a lot of pimples. 



Lykos answered:



Hi Darryl,



Try a tea of agrimony and cleavers.  It might help.



Good luck,

Lykos



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Best Herbs for weight loss?

From: kristen4@ix.netcom.com(Lynne Pruiksma)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 05:51:12 GMT



In <31FC9111.7A90@village.ios.com> Jason <pokey4@village.ios.com>

writes: 

>

>Anybody know what the best herbs for the maximum weight loss?

>Thanks in advance



i dont think there are herbs that actually make you lose weight only

ones that clean out your system and make you lose water wieght or ones

that make you not hungry..but it is no use takng any of the above if

you are not exercising and eating nutritious foods..



auroura



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Shark Cartilege, Looking for Source

From: jeancall@interramp.com (Jeanne  M. Call)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 06:30:18 GMT



I have had fantastic results, but it seems expensive, that is, about $.50 

per pill, of 750 mg.  Does anyone have testimonial as to their own results, 

and cheaper sources.  The books say it cures cancer, arthritis, etc. Well, I 

have had less aches and pains for my fibromyalgia and feel great.  

Thanks, Jeanne Call





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Buyers of Herbs

From: Eva Fritsch <efritsch@ccinet.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 14:04:07 +0500



We have a farm in northern Alberta where we have ben experimenting with 

some herbs..borage, basil, spearmint, dill and sage.  We have had great 

luck with everything but the basil.  Now we are planning ofor 1997 

planting and need to get a sense of wholesale market in Canada and/or 

USA. Does anyone have a list of buyers, companies, etc that we might 

follow up on?  Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanking you in 

advance...Gene and Eva Fritsch, Fritsch Family Farms.

-- 

MZ



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Excessive Sweating

From: photuris <photuris@airmail.net>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 05:45:04 -0500



Hi -



This is my first opportunity to post here, but I have been reading the 

posting for several months now and thoroughly enjoying learning new 

things.  



Now my query; I have a friend who recently mentioned to me her problem 

of excessive sweating, especially her feet.  It is so bad, that she buys 

new shoes every month.   Any suggestions on something to alleviate the 

sweating?



Thanks much

Janet



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Excessive Sweating

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 01:06:55 GMT



Hi Janet.....

	One herb that helps stop profuse sweating is Garden Sage (Salvia

officinalis). It's the same sage that we all cook with. However, would

suggest using fresh or fresh dried sage. Make a tea and drink 2 to 3

cups a day. In addition, it is also a short term memory enhancer.

	Do not use sage during pregnancy!



Hope this helps your friend. If you need product, just e-mail me at

jmidura@map.com



Good luck    John, Eden's Emporium





photuris <photuris@airmail.net> wrote:



>Hi -



>This is my first opportunity to post here, but I have been reading the 

>posting for several months now and thoroughly enjoying learning new 

>things.  



>Now my query; I have a friend who recently mentioned to me her problem 

>of excessive sweating, especially her feet.  It is so bad, that she buys 

>new shoes every month.   Any suggestions on something to alleviate the 

>sweating?



>Thanks much

>Janet







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Excessive Sweating

From: kristen4@ix.netcom.com(Lynne Pruiksma)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 06:08:09 GMT



In <3205D0B0.56C3@airmail.net> photuris <photuris@airmail.net> writes: 

>

>Hi -

>

>This is my first opportunity to post here, but I have been reading the



>posting for several months now and thoroughly enjoying learning new 

>things.  

>

>Now my query; I have a friend who recently mentioned to me her problem



>of excessive sweating, especially her feet.  It is so bad, that she

buys 

>new shoes every month.   Any suggestions on something to alleviate the



>sweating?

>

>Thanks much

>Janet



i heard that you can soak your feet in sage tea... 



bb

auroura





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Natural Cures -- Author Seeks Cases for Book

From: scimedwrit@aol.com (SciMedWrit)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 14:36:53 -0400



     Have you experienced a "miracle cure" by using a non-traditional

remedy?  If you answer yes, and if you're willing to have your case

published, you may be one of the people whose cases will be described in a

new book.



      A best selling health author is seeking cases about medically

documented non-traditional medicines, such as vitamins, herbs or other

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     By "medically documented," we mean that a doctor or medical

researcher can verify that the patient really did have the disease and

that the symptoms really did vanish or dramatically diminish after

treatment.  



     Examples might include using herbs such as feverfew to overcome

migraine, hawthorn to treat erratic heart rhythm, milk thistle to treat

hepatitis or other liver disease, saw palmetto to treat enlarged prostate,

and so on.  



     Other examples might include people who have been cured or

dramatically helped by using cat's claw, shark cartilage, kombucha

(Manchurian mushroom) tea, and other natural medicines or natural

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     If you're a person who has experienced an alternative remedy cure or

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     number) where can contact you for more details.



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Fleas in the carpet...

From: kimmie@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Kimberly H Pinkham)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 20:04:05 GMT



Hi, 



My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an indoor 

cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way, 

she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting the garlic

treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the fleas have 

migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them out?  I'd 

hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.



Any posts or mail to KIMMIE@student.umass.edu would be appreciated.



Thanx,  Kim Pinkham



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: vandy@avana.net (Vandy Terre)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 19:15:39 GMT



On 5 Aug 1996 20:04:05 GMT, kimmie@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Kimberly H

Pinkham) wrote:



>Hi, 

>

>My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an indoor 

>cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way, 

>she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting the garlic

>treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the fleas have 

>migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them out?  



Vacuum daily and put moth balls in the vacuum bag to kill fleas and

flea larva/ eggs.  Flea larva eat the debris that collects in the base

of the carpet.  Flea larva and can be brought into the home on yard

sale goods or items that have been stored in cardboard in flea

infested areas.  I brought home fleas from my MILs basement on

cardboard boxes of books.  



There are non-poisonious flea traps available through discount

department stores that use a small night light as a heat source to

attract fleas to a sticky back.   Use of these year around in our home

has greatly reduced the flea problem to almost non-existant.



A student desk lamp placed on the floor over hanging a bowl of water

is also very effective.  When using lamps as a flea lure, make sure it

is the only light on at night.



>I'd hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.

>

>Any posts or mail to KIMMIE@student.umass.edu would be appreciated.

>

>Thanx,  Kim Pinkham



 





Any significantly advanced scam          vandy@avana.net 

is indistinguishable 

from religion.                           Georgia, USA





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: jxbrown@aol.com (JXBrown)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 06:58:56 -0400



>My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an indoor



>cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way, 

>she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting the

>garlic

>treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the fleas

have 

>migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them out? 

I'd 

>hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.



Look in your phone book under "pest control".  There may be a company that

will pound a dessicant like silica gel into your carpet.  It creates a

very dry microclimate down there at carpet level so that the flea eggs

can't hatch.  Usually the treatment lasts for one year.  It is a very

non-toxic solution, although it may not be available in higher humidity

climates.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: rkyler@netnet1.netnet.net (rkyler)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 21:46:10 GMT





If you want to get rid of fleas for good, pick up something called

"Lassie".  I and my friend have both used it for serious flea

infestation.  They have bombs - use as they recommend.  And the 

fleas are GUARANTEED gone for a year.  Of course, anything else 

living needs to be gotten out.  It isn't natural, but is more

effective than anything I've found when the fleas are in teh carpet

and couch and such.

And it doesn't take a pest control company to do it . . . its a bit

cheaper and so very effective.



I can't help brag on this product.  It works better than anything I've

ever tried.



Kim







JXBrown (jxbrown@aol.com) wrote:

: >My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an indoor

: 

: >cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way, 

: >she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting the

: >garlic

: >treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the fleas

: have 

: >migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them out? 

: I'd 

: >hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.

: 

: Look in your phone book under "pest control".  There may be a company that

: will pound a dessicant like silica gel into your carpet.  It creates a

: very dry microclimate down there at carpet level so that the flea eggs

: can't hatch.  Usually the treatment lasts for one year.  It is a very

: non-toxic solution, although it may not be available in higher humidity

: climates.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: twin@alaska.net (vesta leigh)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 08:04:11 GMT



In article <4u5k3l$e08@nic.umass.edu>, kimmie@asimov.oit.umass.edu 

says...

>

>Hi, 

>

>My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an 

indoor 

>cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way, 

>she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting 

the garlic

>treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the 

fleas have 

>migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them out? 

 I'd 

>hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.

>

>Any posts or mail to KIMMIE@student.umass.edu would be appreciated.

>

>Thanx,  Kim Pinkham



Pyrethrins, from flowers grown in Africa. BUHACH is one brand I buy 

mine in feed stores. Address is BUHACH. p. o. bOX9441, sEATTLE, wA 

98109. It may be  powdered directly onto dogs, cats, birds, boxes or in 

beds and boxes of same. It should be used on furniture, carpets etc. 

and needs to be repeated on beasts and furniture due to the life cycle 

of the parasites. Also affective is "diatomaceous earth" which I 

purchase at a nursery. It is used to put around plants because slugs 

won't cross it...if they do they die. It is the 'shell' of tiny one 

celled animals that died in the trillions and left depositis on the sea 

floor in various places around the world. It removes the protective 

waxy layer on fleas and they disentigrate and die. Neither of these 

products should be inhaled by you or the beasties so don't 'dust' them, 

use it and work it in. your kitten will live longer likely, if you 

dispose of the flea collar. The heavy, strong chemicals in them usually 

destroy the beasts health sooner or later...kidneys, liver etc. Good 

luck.

Vesta





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 15:35:28 GMT



>In article <4u5k3l$e08@nic.umass.edu>, kimmie@asimov.oit.umass.edu 

>says...

>>

>>Hi, 

>>

>>My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an 

>indoor 

>>cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way,



>>she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting 

>the garlic

>>treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the 

>fleas have 

>>migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them

out? 

> I'd 

>>hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.

>>

>>Any posts or mail to KIMMIE@student.umass.edu would be appreciated.

>>

>>Thanx,  Kim Pinkham

>



Try mixing half lemon juice/half water in a sprayer and spraying it all

over the carpets in your house. This won't help much with adult fleas

but it destroys the eggs they lay which is what makes the little

buggers so prolific!!!



I don't know if this really works or not, my 4 cats haven't had fleas

for YEARS ever since the people with the dogs upstairs moved out. But I

got this from a book from which I have already personally tried many of

the remedies and all of them have worked.....



Good Luck!!



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: thatjoeguy@nortexinfo.net (Joe A. Koesler)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:51:06 GMT



rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka) wrote:



>>In article <4u5k3l$e08@nic.umass.edu>, kimmie@asimov.oit.umass.edu 

>>says...

>>>

>>>Hi, 

>>>

>>>My kitty has fleas.  How she got them I have no idea, as she is an 

>>indoor 

>>>cat - perhaps they hitched a ride on me or my Young Man.  Either way,



>>>she's getting better - she now has an herbal collar, and is getting 

>>the garlic

>>>treatment. (wrapped in chicken trimmings, no less!)  However, the 

>>fleas have 

>>>migrated to the carpet, as well.  Any suggestions on getting them

>out? 

>> I'd 

>>>hate to use a powdered poison if an herbal option exists.

>>>

>>>Any posts or mail to KIMMIE@student.umass.edu would be appreciated.

>>>

>>>Thanx,  Kim Pinkham

>>



>Try mixing half lemon juice/half water in a sprayer and spraying it all

>over the carpets in your house. This won't help much with adult fleas

>but it destroys the eggs they lay which is what makes the little

>buggers so prolific!!!



>I don't know if this really works or not, my 4 cats haven't had fleas

>for YEARS ever since the people with the dogs upstairs moved out. But I

>got this from a book from which I have already personally tried many of

>the remedies and all of them have worked.....



>Good Luck!!



>Cookie



20 Mule Team Borax sprinkled like "carpet fresh" and left down for a

week before vaccuuming will kill both fleas and eggs and won't hurt

you or the cat. It also works on ants.

Maven





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: vicladeeda@aol.com (VicLaDeeDa)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 21:52:42 -0400



Before you go to bed, put a pan of water with dishwashing soap in it on

your carpet. Place a light over the pan of water. Turn off all other

lights. Adult fleas will jump at the bright light and land in the water.

You'll find lots in the morning.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fleas in the carpet...

From: hadesburg@aol.com (Hadesburg)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 23:31:32 -0400



I sprinkle borax all over the carpet, let it sit awhile, and then vaccuum

it all up. When I am done vaccuuming, I immediately throw the bag away.  I

repeat this treatment monthly and havent seen a flea in years.  (which is

saying alot since I live in south mississippi!!)



Also, I bathe my two cats and my dog with Dr Bronners Pure Castile Soap,

which works wonderfully to keep the fleas off them.  (This is one of

hundreds of uses for Dr Bronners Soap!!!)



Good Luck!!



angela



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: How to Kill Yeast?

From: johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's Magic)

Date: 5 Aug 1996 20:09:53 GMT



My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has 

not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.  

A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to 

kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some 

specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but 

we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).  



Thanks for any help!

johnna@unixg.ubc.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: Eggplant <myers@students.uiuc.edu>

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:14:38 -0500



On 5 Aug 1996, Miranda's Magic wrote:



> My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has 

> not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.  

> A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to 

> kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some 

> specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but 

> we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).  

> 

> Thanks for any help!

> johnna@unixg.ubc.ca

> 

> 



I have read a book called _The Yeast Syndrome_ which describes the syptoms

which may occur when _candida_ takes over.  The author also describes, in

great detail, a curative diet - essentially very low in sugars and yeast

containing foods (cheeses, beer, wine etc) and with lots of yogurt (as the

L. Acidophillus (sp??) bacterium used in making yogurt and which lives on

in the finished product is really good at combatting candida).  As I

recall, most sugars were out - he even recommended taking plain yogurt if

possible to avoid the sugars added when you mix fruit in.  I'm not sure

about other dairy products (milk especially), but I know that most cheeses

are very high in yeast.  Now, despite the fact that I can remeber this, I

can't remeber the author's name, but I bet you could find it at the

library or bookstore.  If not, I can probably ask around and try to find

out. 







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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 18:20:47 -0400



In article <Pine.Sola.3.91.960806095615.7733A-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>,

Eggplant <myers@students.uiuc.edu> writes:



> I

>can't remeber the author's name, but I bet you could find it at the

>library or bookstore.



The Yeast Connection by William Crook, MD.  Also by the same author:

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & The Yeast Connection

The Yeast Connection & The Woman

The Yeast Connection Cookbook



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: Batt@onramp.net (D. Batts)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 09:19:07 -0600



In article <4u5keh$bju@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's

Magic) wrote:



> My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has 

> not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.  

> A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to 

> kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some 

> specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but 

> we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).  

> 

> Thanks for any help!

> johnna@unixg.ubc.ca





You might try digestive enzymes along with meals. This should reduce the

amount of incompletely processed sugars in the bloodstream and help

"starve the yeast".

Also taking probiotics (Acidophillus, bifidus) may also be helpfull.



The idea is to retore the bacterial balance of the digestive tract by

crowding out the unfriendly bacteria. And to supplement the bodies

digestive enzymes, leaving very little for the yeast to feed on.







Regards





Dwight



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: "D. Batts" <Batt@onramp.net>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: MeiTien <a.wu@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:54:36 -0400



D. Batts wrote:

> 

> In article <4u5keh$bju@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's

> Magic) wrote:

> 

> > My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has

> > not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.

> > A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to

> > kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some

> > specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but

> > we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).

> >

> > Thanks for any help!

> > johnna@unixg.ubc.ca

> 

> You might try digestive enzymes along with meals. This should reduce the

> amount of incompletely processed sugars in the bloodstream and help

> "starve the yeast".

> Also taking probiotics (Acidophillus, bifidus) may also be helpfull.

> 

> The idea is to retore the bacterial balance of the digestive tract by

> crowding out the unfriendly bacteria. And to supplement the bodies

> digestive enzymes, leaving very little for the yeast to feed on.

> 

> Regards

> 

> DwightWhat kind or brand of enzymes would you recommend? There are so many on the market.



Thanks

Mei-Tien



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 12:04:47 -0700



Stop taking all medications.



Here's the food list:



All bread, rolls, crackers, cookies, cakes, etc. except possiibly 

unleavened bread.

All alcoholic beverages and root beer.

All citrus fruit drinks and juices unless they are home squeezed which 

are the only yeast free juices.  Malted milk, malted drinks.

Malted cereals, malted dairy foods for babies, cereals enriched with 

vitamins.

Pickles, salad dressings, mayonnaise, horseradish sauce, tomato sauce, 

barbeque sauce, French dressing, mustard, ketchup, sauerkraut, olives, 

chili peppers, tamari and soy sauce, vinegar.

All cheese including cottage cheese and cheese spreads, buttermilk, milk 

enriched with vitamins.

Mushrooms, mushroom sauce, truffles.

Hamburgers, sausages, and cooked meats made with bread or breadcrumbs, 

Marmite, Oxo, Bovril, Vegemite,gravy browning, and all similar extracts.

Most B vitamin preparations are likely to be derived from yeast.

Buttermilk, sour cream, cheese snacks, peanuts, sourmilk products, cheese 

dressings, cream cheese, pistachios, antibiotics.  Many dairy products, 

eggs, and meat contain antibiotics in small quantities.  Eat these 

sparingly.

Sugar, sucrose, fructose, maltose, lactose, glycogen, glucose, milk, 

sweets, chocolate, crackers, cookies, cakes, candies, puddings, desserts, 

canned foods, packaged foods, hamburgers, honey, mannitol, sorbitol, 

galactose, monosaccharides, polysaccharides, date sugar, turbinado sugar, 

molasses, maple syrup, most bottled juices, all soft drinks, tonic water, 

milkshakes, raisins, dried apricots, dates, prunes, dried figs, other 

dried fruit.



Eat alot of meat and vegetables.





>My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has

>not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.

>A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to

>kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some

>specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but

>we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).



>Thanks for any help!

>johnna@unixg.ubc.ca



MeiTien wrote:

> > Also taking probiotics (Acidophillus, bifidus) may also be helpfull.

> > The idea is to retore the bacterial balance of the digestive tract by

> > crowding out the unfriendly bacteria. And to supplement the bodies

> > digestive enzymes, leaving very little for the yeast to feed on.

> >

> > Regards





I found taking Yeast Fighters every day helped tremendously along with 

using this food list.  Take 12 the first day and 6 everyday afterwards.  

Don't quit when things clear up.  Reduce the amount.



Hope this helps.  It worked for me.



HomemakerJ



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: MeiTien <a.wu@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 10:20:15 -0400



HomemakerJ wrote:

> 

> Stop taking all medications.

> 

> Here's the food list:

> 

> All bread, rolls, crackers, cookies, cakes, etc. except possiibly

> unleavened bread.

> All alcoholic beverages and root beer.

> All citrus fruit drinks and juices unless they are home squeezed which

> are the only yeast free juices.  Malted milk, malted drinks.

> Malted cereals, malted dairy foods for babies, cereals enriched with

> vitamins.

> Pickles, salad dressings, mayonnaise, horseradish sauce, tomato sauce,

> barbeque sauce, French dressing, mustard, ketchup, sauerkraut, olives,

> chili peppers, tamari and soy sauce, vinegar.

> All cheese including cottage cheese and cheese spreads, buttermilk, milk

> enriched with vitamins.

> Mushrooms, mushroom sauce, truffles.

> Hamburgers, sausages, and cooked meats made with bread or breadcrumbs,

> Marmite, Oxo, Bovril, Vegemite,gravy browning, and all similar extracts.

> Most B vitamin preparations are likely to be derived from yeast.

> Buttermilk, sour cream, cheese snacks, peanuts, sourmilk products, cheese

> dressings, cream cheese, pistachios, antibiotics.  Many dairy products,

> eggs, and meat contain antibiotics in small quantities.  Eat these

> sparingly.

> Sugar, sucrose, fructose, maltose, lactose, glycogen, glucose, milk,

> sweets, chocolate, crackers, cookies, cakes, candies, puddings, desserts,

> canned foods, packaged foods, hamburgers, honey, mannitol, sorbitol,

> galactose, monosaccharides, polysaccharides, date sugar, turbinado sugar,

> molasses, maple syrup, most bottled juices, all soft drinks, tonic water,

> milkshakes, raisins, dried apricots, dates, prunes, dried figs, other

> dried fruit.

> 

> Eat alot of meat and vegetables.

> 

> >My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has

> >not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.

> >A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to

> >kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some

> >specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but

> >we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).

> 

> >Thanks for any help!

> >johnna@unixg.ubc.ca

> 

> MeiTien wrote:

> > > Also taking probiotics (Acidophillus, bifidus) may also be helpfull.

> > > The idea is to retore the bacterial balance of the digestive tract by

> > > crowding out the unfriendly bacteria. And to supplement the bodies

> > > digestive enzymes, leaving very little for the yeast to feed on.

> > >

> > > Regards

> 

> I found taking Yeast Fighters every day helped tremendously along with

> using this food list.  Take 12 the first day and 6 everyday afterwards.

> Don't quit when things clear up.  Reduce the amount.

> 

> Hope this helps.  It worked for me.

> 

> HomemakerJHow long did it to start showing effects with this approach? 



Mei-Tien



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:40:25 -0700



>MeiTien wrote: 

>> HomemakerJ wrote:



>>I found taking Yeast Fighters helped.  Take 12 the first day and 6 everyday afterwards.

>> Don't quit when things clear up.  Reduce the amount.

>>

>> Hope this helps.  It worked for me.



> HomemakerJ



>How long did it to start showing effects with this approach?

> 

> Mei-Tien



I guess about four days before I could tell that they were having an 

effect and about ten days before I was cleared up completely.



HomemakerJ



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 17:26:10 GMT



This herb is supposed to kill yeast: pau d'Arco, also garlic.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 03:19:23 GMT



HomemakerJ (homej@interaccess.com) wrote:

: Stop taking all medications.

: 

: Here's the food list:

: 

: All bread, rolls, crackers, cookies, cakes, etc. except possiibly 

: unleavened bread.

: All alcoholic beverages and root beer.

as well as an almost endless list of common foods.





Not all yeasts are created equal!!!  The theory that dietary yeast intake 

has anything what-so-ever to with yeast infections is rather silly.  

There are literally thousands of varieties of yeast, and our bodys exist 

in a symbiotic relationship with a few of them.  Yeast infections usually 

result from a change in body fluid PH.  This is often a symtom of some 

other problem or something as simple as a stress reaction.  Yeast killing 

medications can cause a rebound effect that can result in a bacterial 

infection which eventually the body fights off, and another yeast 

infection results.  

   

The best dietary advice on this thread is towards probiotics.  Also, the 

avoidence of simple sugars seems reasonable.  



Jim:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:46:01 -0700



Hi Jim,



  The food list was requested and I happened to have it.  I did follow it 

and it helped.



ODCO Inc. wrote:

> 

> HomemakerJ (homej@interaccess.com) wrote:

> : Stop taking all medications.

> :

> : Here's the food list:

> :

> : All bread, rolls, crackers, cookies, cakes, etc. except possiibly

> : unleavened bread.

> : All alcoholic beverages and root beer.

> as well as an almost endless list of common foods.

> 

> Not all yeasts are created equal!!!  The theory that dietary yeast intake

> has anything what-so-ever to with yeast infections is rather silly.

> There are literally thousands of varieties of yeast, and our bodys exist

> in a symbiotic relationship with a few of them.



>  Yeast infections usually

> result from a change in body fluid PH.  This is often a symtom of some

> other problem or something as simple as a stress reaction.



You got that right!  However, if you're perimenopausal, as I am, it's a 

little hard to control the changes in the PH.  I developed the Candida 

rash over most of my body when I abruptly stopped taking hormones and 

antibiotics.



>  Yeast killing

> medications can cause a rebound effect that can result in a bacterial

> infection which eventually the body fights off, and another yeast

> infection results.



I tried all kinds of creams and ointments, but it was definitely the 

Yeast Fighters for me that began the healing process.  I found that once 

the symptoms disappeared and I stopped taking the Yeast Fighters 

completely, the rash began to come back.  So, now I take them if I feel 

the rash starting to come on.



> 

> The best dietary advice on this thread is towards probiotics.



Someone else on this group mentioned to me that they were having good 

results with probiotics.



>  Also, the

> avoidence of simple sugars seems reasonable.

> 

> Jim:)



I agree with this whole-heartedly.  When you start craving French donuts 

that seem to feed the infection, you've got a pretty good hint that 

sugars are contributing to the problem!



It's good that we share personal experiences of what has worked for us.  

Not everyone responds to the same cure, so it's nice to have 

alternatives.  I'm for anything that can stop the itchy scratchy burning 

of those miserable yeast infections, whatever their source, especially in 

the good old summertime.



HomemakerJ





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: vicladeeda@aol.com (VicLaDeeDa)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 21:37:05 -0400



After receiving a diagnosis of Candida Albicans, my dr. put me on nistatin

powder to kill off yeast and following a macrobiotic diet as well. My

research revealed that garlic is the best yeast fighter available, plus we

all know it does a lot of great things to help the body (breath excluded).

Garlic has to be raw to do the most good. Juice it, dilute with water and

rinse the mouth to kill yeast in the mouth, or chew it straight. Takes

getting used to, but it worked for me.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: kerrif1900@aol.com (KerriF1900)

Date: 29 Aug 1996 18:05:30 -0400



     I suffered for years from recurrent yeast infections.  My ob'gyn

recommended I eat lots of yogurt with live cultures (ie Dannon), which I

did.  It helped - but oddly enough, I had no craving for yogurt during a

flare-up.  

     Wandered into my local health food store.  The live bacteria in

yogurt that makes it work is Acidopholus.  It balances the flora and ph of

your digestion and elimination tract.  And it's inexpensive!  I use

Solgar's brand (I've found it to be the best). During a flare-up, 2 caps

three times per day orally and one vaginally before bed.  Adding one

garlic cap a day helped even more.       

     No side effects from this completely natural product (unlike nystatin

and those others nasty meds).  I take one a day as a prophilaxis and have

had next to no flare ups in five years.  

      I've noticed that flare-ups often occur when I'm under great stress

and not watching my diet (ie lots of sugar and flours).  

     There's an excellant book "The Yeast Connection" that I strongly

recommend (sorry, I don't remember the author and my copy was borrowed &

never returned).

     All the best,

Kerri



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 14:04:57 -0400



In article <4u5keh$bju@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's

Magic) writes:



>Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but 

>we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).  



According to the Candida Yeast Guidebook by Jeanne Marie Martin & Zoltan

Rona:

Avoid milk or use it in small amounts cooked into other foods

Yogurt: Use it as dairy substitute when it's natural & contains live

enzymes

Sweet fruits, fruit juice etc: Avoid until yeast under control (the

authors are very anti-fruit although other CY books, like Crook, allow a

little fruit occaisionally).



There's a plethora of good anti-candida cookbooks out there -- I'd also

recommend reading the works of William Crook also.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

Clearance Sale:

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/sale.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: Tamkin/Wynn-Hinman <greenrey@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:57:48 -0700



Another herbal form of treatment that you may try is SPILANTHES USNEA.  

You can most likely find the liquid extract at your local herb store.  It 

is specifically an anti-fungal, and very effective in fighting athelete's 

foot, yeast infections, etc.  It can be taken orally, either whole or 

dilluted in water or juice; when diluted in water, it also makes a very 

effective cleansing flush for women.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:40:30 GMT



On 5 Aug 1996 20:09:53 GMT, johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's Magic) wrote:



>My husband has an overgrowth of yeast in his system that the doctor has 

>not seemed to be able to settle.  Its been a problem for some years now.  

>A long while back I saw a posting about what foods to avoid in trying to 

>kill off the yeast.  I'd appreciate it if someone could give me some 

>specific information about it.  Avoiding breads, etc., is obvious, but 

>we're wondering about fruit & dairy (for fruit & milk sugars).  



You mention avoiding breads. I always find it curious that people with

Candida have to avoid yeast that has been thoroughly killed in an oven. Are

the yeast cannibals and feed on their own kind? Or maybe it is the gluten

in the bread, which works with the yeast to make it rise that is the real

problem. Note that the symptoms of gluten intolerance, a known disorder,

are *very similar* to Candida symptoms.



The following list of common symptoms of low level Candida albicans

infections was found on a web page. I have used it as a framework to

compare with some of the symptoms of an undiagnosed gluten intolerant

person. (Celiac and gluten intolerance are used interchangeably below,

though they really aren't. Celiac disease refers to a damaged intestinal

mucosa. Gluten intolerance can be a sensitivity without much measurable

damage):

 

Chronic fatigue - One of the most common celiac symptoms.



Weakness - One of the most common celiac symptoms.



Dizziness - About 5% of celiac patients get nerve damage that can vary from

tingling and numbness in the feet to confusion, memory loss, dizziness and

loss of balance, visual abnormalities. This sometimes happen in the absence

of GI symptoms. Epilepsy (with calcification in the brain) does respond

when gluten is fully removed.



Headaches - Common celiac symptom.



Cold sweats and/or night sweats -  Have never heard of it as a celiac

symptom.



Feeling bad all over, like having the flu - Typical celiac symptom, to the

extent one thinks of flu as diarrhea, weakness, and muscular/bone aches and

pains.



Muscle and joint pains - Common celiac symptom.



Sore throat - Not generally considered a celiac symptom, but I have heard

reports from a few members of a support group. Also have heard about

swollen glands in the neck.

 

Low grade fever - Not a known celiac symptom.

 

Numbness, especially in the hands or feet - See dizziness above. Another

celiac symptom is called peripheral neuropathy (possibly due to folic acid

deficiency). Also abnormal or impaired skin sensation (paresthesia),

including burning, prickling, itching or tingling. Also the celiac FAQ

lists central and peripheral nervous system disease.

 

Asthma - Celiacs are more susceptible to having allergies, possibly due to

a deficiency of magnesium.



Chronic sinusitis - Celiacs are more susceptible to sinus problems.



Allergies - Celiacs are more susceptible to having other food intolerances

and allergies.



Irritability - Common celiac symptom.

 

Abdominal pain - Common celiac symptom.

 

Constipation or diarrhea - Both common celiac symptoms. 



Gas - Very common celiac symptom.



Chronic athlete's foot or jock itch - Not known as a celiac symptom, but

celiacs would be a weakened host for fungi.



Yeast rashes - What does a yeast rash look like? Some celiacs have had

eczema and hives clear up when going gluten-free. Also 5% of celiacs get

dermatitis herpetiformis, which is very itchy rash which is most commonly

on the outside of elbows, knees, top of buttocks, or on the back shoulders,

neck and scalp.



Feeling worse when deprived of sugar containing foods or simple

carbohydrates such as potatoes - An undiagnosed celiac can have food

cravings as they are malnourished.



Feeling weaker on damp days or after bathing - Not a celiac symptom.



Feeling worse when exposed to mold, dust, chemicals, or pollutants -

Celiacs are more susceptible to having allergies.



Elevated Epstein-Barr virus titers, indicating a recent reactivation of the

virus - Don't know.



Heart pains - Not known as a celiac symptom. However, with severe anemia,

there are often uncomfortable heart palpitations. Also, I suppose heartburn

could be a symptom as some celiacs vomit after gluten consumption.



General reproductive problems - Infertility is a known celiac symptom in

both sexes. It is due to malnourishment. Also gynecological disorders like

spontaneous abortions.



Chronic vaginal infections - Don't know, but the host body is weakened.



Premenstrual syndrome like symptoms - Anecdotally a celiac symptom.



Irregular menstrual cycles or unusual menstrual pain - Untreated celiac

women often have low estrogen levels and an erratic or non-existent

menstrual cycle (amenorrhea). For young untreated celiac girls, the onset

of menarche can be delayed. Women with a long history of malabsorption will

sometimes reach menopause at a younger age; in some cases as early as in

their late twenty's. Anecdotally unusual menstrual pain is a celiac

symptom.



========================================



For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all Net

resources:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: grabec@aol.com (GraBec)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 03:20:48 -0400



Isn't there a newsgroup that a person can subscribe to for messages on the

subject of yeast infections? I had the address once and tried to do it but

it wouldn't "take." Any info?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to Kill Yeast?

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 03:41:43 GMT



On 14 Aug 1996 03:20:48 -0400, grabec@aol.com (GraBec) wrote:



>Isn't there a newsgroup that a person can subscribe to for messages on the

>subject of yeast infections? I had the address once and tried to do it but

>it wouldn't "take." Any info?



I don't know about a newsgroup, but there is a mailing list dedicated to

yeast, fungus and candida at: LISTSERV@PSUHMC.HMC.PSU.EDU. To join, send a

message to the listserv with SUB YEAST-L your name in the body of the

message.



Also there is this page:



  The Candida Page:      http://www.panix.com/~candida/



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: tx.religion.pagan,alt.pagan,alt.religion.wicca,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anyone need certain herbs for rituals or other things?

From: jaquick@en.com

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:58:50 -0400



Anyone know where to get lignum aloes (NOT aloe vera)?



-- 

 Jeffrey Quick

http://www.en.com/users/jaquick



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Awesome HERBAL COOKBOOK

From: sem5c@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Susan Elizabeth Morris)

Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:38:56 GMT



A small Herbal group in PA has just published "A Celebration of

Herbs " cookbook containing a myriad of hints for growing and

using all culinary herbs! ( No MEDICINAL Herbs included).



This is really a super-handy reference book for combining and

using (proportional) herbs to accent so many recipes!  It has

been so popular in Pennsylvania that we thought we'd share it

with the rest of you!



The cost is:  $16.00 and is available only via direct order.

If interested, I'll send more info. about purchasing.  You'll

enjoy this one!



Respond with name and snail-mail address to this posting or

directly to sem5c@virginia.edu.





           "so many herbs...so little thyme..." :)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal treatment for hicups?

From: Ronald van Seventer <van7ter@rahul.net>

Date: 5 Aug 1996 22:07:03 GMT



I have a friend who s suffering from long bouts of hicups. Getting no

help from his HMO, he is seeking herbal solutions.



Any ideas?!?



Thanks!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort For Depression

From: Princeton PRC <Elaine_Rushforth@ccmail.bms.com>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 15:20:05 -0700



dook@edge.net wrote:

> 

> Has anybody ever tried St. John's Wort for treatment of depression.

> What's the proper dosage?



The dosage is 1 capsule 3 x times a day.  According to the article

I read that quoted the study it has to be 300 mg, 0.3% hypercin.

Enzymatic Therapy makes these capsules.  It is very important to

follow the same regimen as the study and it takes a while to notice a 

difference.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: What eats bee balm?

From: Scott Kafarski <concrete@nac.net>

Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 18:25:44 -0700



For the past year or so, I've been raising herbs and various mints to brew teas 

with. However, it seems like something is regularly munching holes in my Monarda. Anyone 

have any ideas as to what it might be and any ways to prevent it? Also, if you know of 

any good books on healing herbs or brewing natural teas, let me know.



Concrete (.)  (.)

	 ________





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What eats bee balm?

From: Gail@escape.com (Gail Miller)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 09:03:20 -0400



In article <32069F18.21D1@nac.net>, Scott Kafarski <concrete@nac.net> wrote:



> For the past year or so, I've been raising herbs and various mints to

brew teas 

> with. However, it seems like something is regularly munching holes in my

Monarda. Anyone 

> have any ideas as to what it might be and any ways to prevent it? Also,

if you know of 

> any good books on healing herbs or brewing natural teas, let me know.

> 

> Concrete (.)  (.)

          Grasshoppers love my bee balm.  They ate most all of it last

year.  Not as bad this year, yet.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: concrete@nac.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What eats bee balm?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 6 Aug 1996 15:36:36 GMT



Scott,



I live in Florida and my balm has been munched this year by white fly 

(eating holes in the leaves!)  I have used insecticidal soap and had 

great relief







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What eats bee balm?

From: ravendncr@aol.com (RAVENDNCR)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 09:15:30 -0400



Japanese Beetles love it.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Uncaria tomentosa

From: whajduk <whajduk@orbonline.net>

Date: 6 Aug 1996 01:58:29 GMT



I'm looking for extract of Unicaria tomentosa.

Where can I find information about therapeutic property of that plant.

Can you help me.



Thanks.



Voytek









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: soc.culture.costa-rica,alt.sustainable.agriculture,bionet.biology.tropical,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Interesting opportunity - Organic Farm in Costa Rica

From: codyrica@ix.netcom.com(John Rocap)

Date: 6 Aug 1996 02:25:16 GMT



Hello everyone,



I recently purchased a piece of land in Guanacaste, Costa Rica. It is

part of an organic farm that involves a handful of experienced organic

growers - both Tico and Gringo. It does not require that you locate in

Costa Rica, although, if you chose to be directly involved and put you

hands on the project that would be wonderful.



The group has already had some success with the growing and marketing

of macadamia nuts, ginger and various medicinal herbs. We hope to

expand into sundried fruits and vegetables as well as increase our

acreage in medicinal herbs.



The property is in a beautiful area of semi-arid Guanacaste. It is

known as the Tenorio Project. The Rio Tenorio runs the entire length of

the property. Each parcel has river frontage. The parcels are 6

hectares (15 acres +/-). At the current time there are 2 or 3 parcels

remaining of the eight original. The total monthly cost is less than

$200.00(US). There is no real down payment except for the legal and

survey fees  which are less than $500.00. At this rate of payment, the

each parcelwill be paid out in 5 years. Although the land is

accessible, there will be some infrastructure development costs (well

drilling, solar power, water lines, grading for gravel roads,

etc..etc..) these costs will be borne by the ownership group as a

whole.



That last point brings up an important aspect of this project. It will

require people of like mind and lifestyle who are willing to work

together, whether from a distance or with hands on. This is a totally

organic venture that will require a collective focus of thought and

action.



There is much information available. If you think you may be

interested, please feel free to write me a message at my personnal

e-mail address   <<codyrica@ix.netcom.com>>. All sincere inquiries will

be answered.



Thanx



Cody 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Danger of Ma Huang?

From: wkadams@nai.net (Wendy1)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 00:03:17 -0500





Hi-

I am not a regular in this newsgroup, please forgive me if this topic has

been beaten to death. I have been following a weight control program

recently that is mainly comprised of herbal tablets. I have recently come

across a few articles about the main ingredient in these tablets, Ma Huang

(a form of ephedra?). The articles have scared me, because they stated

that there have been deaths associated with these types of formulas. 



Does anyone have any information, for or against, herbal weight control

programs that utilize this ingredient? I would be grateful if anyone could

help me out. I have been searching various web sites, but all of the

weight control companys slant the news in their favor which make me

question the integrity of the info.



Please respond by e-mail, as I don't often have a chance to check the

groups, (and my server often only partially downloads the articles

anyway...) Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks in advance,



Wendy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Allergies?

From: lifesupp@sprynet.com (Mark Walker)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 07:27:18 GMT



What are some good Herbs for allergies, such as Hayfever, Sinus

Congestion etc...?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Allergies?

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:38:48 GMT



lifesupp@sprynet.com (Mark Walker) wrote:



>What are some good Herbs for allergies, such as Hayfever, Sinus

>Congestion etc...?



I have been taking ephedra sinica for my allergies with outstanding

results. No more need for any other decongestants or cortisone nasal

sprays. You can email me privately for further info.



Hope this helps.

Carol



Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Allergies?

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:23:34 GMT





>lifesupp@sprynet.com (Mark Walker) wrote:



>>What are some good Herbs for allergies, such as Hayfever, Sinus

>>Congestion etc...?



>I have been taking ephedra sinica for my allergies with outstanding

>results. No more need for any other decongestants or cortisone nasal

>sprays. You can email me privately for further info.



>Hope this helps.

>Carol



Carol,



Although ephedra may help open your nasal passages, there are better 

treatments.  Ephedra is a non-specific adrenergic agonist and can be dangerous 

to your heart.....  The possible side effects outweigh its potential 

usefullness.  



vipor





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Allergies?

From: frew@sans.vuw.ac.nz (Allan David Frew)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 22:35:16 GMT



lifesupp@sprynet.com (Mark Walker) wrote:



>What are some good Herbs for allergies, such as Hayfever, Sinus

>Congestion etc...?



You could try horseradish (About 1 gram 3 times a day) with garlic. This

helps for me. I've also been told that Mullein and high doses of vit C (3

grams a day) also do a good job. If you do choose to take horseradish its

a good idea to drink lots of water because it drys up the mucus around the

nasal and throat areas.



Allan











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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.caffeine,alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.hard,alt.drugs.pot,alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.hemp,alt.hemp.politics,alt.hemp.recreational,alt.personals.psychedelic,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.religion.shamanism,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,rec.drugs.psychedelic,talk.politics.drugs,rec.drugs.chemistry

Subject: Re: the Worlds Largest Drug Information Server

From: MasterMind <dgray@visi.net>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:54:48 -0700



What Andrew Edmond forgot to mention is that you have to be approved and pay for this 

"service."  I think I'll just keep going to Hyperreal, Paranoia, Sputnik, etc.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: MasterMind <dgray@visi.net>

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.caffeine,alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.hard,alt.drugs.pot,alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.hemp,alt.hemp.politics,alt.hemp.recreational,alt.personals.psychedelic,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.religion.shamanism,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,rec.drugs.psychedelic,talk.politics.drugs,rec.drugs.chemistry

Subject: Re: the Worlds Largest Drug Information Server

From: "Andrew N. Edmond" <edmond@shaman.lycaeum.org>

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 21:40:55 -0600



On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, MasterMind wrote:



> What Andrew Edmond forgot to mention is that you have to be approved and

> pay for this "service."  I think I'll just keep going to Hyperreal,

> Paranoia, Sputnik, etc.



Not true.



The majority of the information (more than 90%) on the Lycaeum is free for

the public to use.  It's organized MUCH better than Paranoia, Hyperreal

and Sputnik - there is more information and it is of higher quality, it's

presented better, and you can browse all of it for FREE. 



Let me say it again - everything you like about Hyperreal, Paranoia, and

Sputnik is now located in one place, viewable by the world with gads

of original information for FREE.  Yes, MasterMind, for FREE.



The only thing I charge for are the discussion forums - a SMALL subsection

of the Lycaeum which allows members to discuss (with a high signal and low

noise ratio) the subjects we all like to talk about.  With no propogation

delays.  With complete security and anonymity.  *** With a community of

learned and knowledgable individuals ***.  No "free pot"  posts - no

religious zealots - no hostile flames. Just pure, high quality discussion

about our favorite visionary plants and chemicals. Actually, the Lycaeum

discussion forums are designed to eliminate everything people don't like

(or hate) about the *.drugs.* newsgroups. 



The premise of the Lycaeum discussion forums is HIGH quality discussion

with some famous psychedelic personalities on board.  Users of this ONE

service are asked to pay a small subscription fee for which they get many

more benifits than boring magazine - they get COMMUNITY and SECURITY -

security being something usenet does not provide, and community is

something that usenet lacks!



So, MasterMind, mind your mouth - cause you frankly don't know what you

are talking about - I don't blame you, but in the future please get your

facts straight! :-) 



In Summary (for those with A.D.D., like myself ;) :



We offer a FREE service, more so than Hyperreal, Sputnik or Paranoia.  If

you want to get involved in the discussion forums, you get a free three

week trial - no obligations.  Why don't you try it, MasterMind

(seriously!) - a totally free trial at the discussion forums:



	http://www.lycaeum.org/apply/



Otherwise, enjoy your totally FREE surfing of the largest, most organized

and most comprehensive drug site on the 'net.



Thanks!



Andy

the Lycaeum Director

http://www.lycaeum.org/



NOTE: Sputnik is now being hosted by the Lycaeum.  They were about to

lose their space and bandwidth at www.nepenthes.com, so we gave them free

space, free bandwidth - because I believe in the spreading of information

for FREE.



NOTE: any money the Lycaeum charges members for the discussion forums is

spent on line connection fees - the staff of the Lycaeum are volunteers

and make no money from the effort.  Believe it or not, MasterMind - this

place was made for people like you, and we are asking nothing in return.



.............................................................................

.  Andrew Edmond              .   Children of a future age,                 .

..  edmond@lycaeum.org       ...   Reading this indignant page,            ..

...  University of Wyoming  .....   Know that in a former time,           ...

....  Botany Department    .......   A path to God was thought a crime.  ....

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.caffeine,alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.hard,alt.drugs.pot,alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.hemp,alt.hemp.politics,alt.hemp.recreational,alt.personals.psychedelic,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.religion.shamanism,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,rec.drugs.psychedelic,talk.politics.drugs,rec.drugs.chemistry

Subject: Re: the Worlds Largest Drug Information Server

From: MasterMind <dgray@visi.net>

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 00:33:01 -0700



MasterMind wrote:

> 

> What Andrew Edmond forgot to mention is that you have to be approved and pay for this

> "service."  I think I'll just keep going to Hyperreal, Paranoia, Sputnik, etc.







Sorry everyone (esp. Andrew Edmond) I was wrong when I said this is a pay site.  The 

only thing you have to pay for is to be on a mailing list of people discussing they're 

favorite chemicals.  Once again I apologize to Andrew Edmond.



-Thanx

 MasterMind



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.caffeine,alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs.culture,alt.drugs.hard,alt.drugs.pot,alt.drugs.pot.cultivation,alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.hemp,alt.hemp.politics,alt.hemp.recreational,alt.personals.psychedelic,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.religion.shamanism,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,rec.drugs.psychedelic,talk.politics.drugs,rec.drugs.chemistry

Subject: Re: the Worlds Largest Drug Information Server

From: Hobbes@Estreet.com (Dave)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 03:28:44 GMT



MasterMind <dgray@visi.net> wrote:



>What Andrew Edmond forgot to mention is that you have to be approved and pay for this 

>"service."  I think I'll just keep going to Hyperreal, Paranoia, Sputnik, etc.





And you forgot to mention that a LOT of the web site is free to

anyone.



(NO, I don't have any connection to him or his site but I did log on

there today and look around and actually it is pretty good.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: System Flushing & Skin Eruptions

From: atlanta@bellsouth.net (Swade)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 12:26:27 GMT



Can anyone offer suggestions of an extract, elixir or other for

purifying the system?  I know of Aloe Vera, but am looking for

something else that will help flush my system of toxins.  BTW, I do

drink approximately 2 litres of water each day.



Also, I have hereditary cellulite on my thighs and have suffered all

my life because the horrible consistency of the skin in this area

promotes ingrown hairs and allows particles of fiber and dirt to

become easily trapped in pores clogging them, much like blackheads,

and causing large boil-like risens.  Does anyone know of a natural

astringent or anything to assist with cleansing the skin in situations

like this?



Atlanta



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: System Flushing & Skin Eruptions

From: Erma West <ewest@bledsoe.net>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 20:18:29 -0700



Before you spend $25 bucks on someone's so called cure why not try a 

combination of echinacea and goldenseal.  It sure won't cost as much and 

may work just as well.  It will take a while, but it took a while to get 

where you are.

Erma





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: System Flushing & Skin Eruptions

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 04:17:21 GMT



On Fri, 09 Aug 1996 20:18:29 -0700, in alt.folklore.herbs Erma West

<ewest@bledsoe.net> wrote:



>Before you spend $25 bucks on someone's so called cure why not try a 

>combination of echinacea and goldenseal.  It sure won't cost as much and 

>may work just as well.  It will take a while, but it took a while to get 

>where you are.



... and before you take a combination of Echinacea and goldenseal check what's

-really- wrong with you. Goldenseal is on the verge of extinction, because it's

mindlessly used in all formulas you can buy and then some, even where it

wouldn't do any benefit.



So, system flushing? Try dandelion leaf or root, or arctium root. Throw in some

nettles. And DON'T aggravate the goldenseal problem by bying goldenseal

preparations, unless you get a reliable certificate that the plant in this

particular product is farmed, not wildcrafted or poached.



Hope this helps.

Henriette



--

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: System Flushing & Skin Eruptions

From: td170@aol.com (TD170)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 13:05:30 -0400



In "The Healing Power of Herbs", Gota Kola is listed as a remedy for

cellulite.  The centella has the ability to enhance connective tissue

structure and reduce sclerosis....

good luck



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help Finding Online Herb Databases

From: Gail@escape.com (Gail Miller)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 08:56:07 -0400



In article <4tvqjh$dqm@mule1.mindspring.com>, turf@mindspring.com (turf) wrote:



> The most complete online herb information source I have found

> is 

> 

> http://www.herbweb.com/.

> 

The USDA has an site originally put together by Jim Duke who co-wrote the

Peterson's guide to medicinal herbs called Phytochemical and

Ethnobotanical Databases http://www.ars-grin.gov/~ngrlsb/.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Catnip...for your cat...

From: entrprzr@warwick.net (T & M Enterprises)

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 96 16:49:50 GMT



Catnip is a member of the mint family. This plants harmless aroma is 

irresistable to cats.  Stuff some in an old sock & watch the fun!  Grown

in New york, handpicked and dried in large bunches. If your interested

send a note email and i will send you more information

----

Michael & Tina Marie Pascoe    T & M Enterprises              

entrprzr@warwick.net           

                               





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip...for your cat...

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 22:22:20 -0700



T & M Enterprises wrote:

> 

> Catnip is a member of the mint family. This plants harmless aroma is

> irresistable to cats.  Stuff some in an old sock & watch the fun!  Grown

> in New york, handpicked and dried in large bunches. If your interested

> send a note email and i will send you more information.



Lykos added:



But my cats prefer valerian root 10 to 1 over catnip.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip...for your cat...

From: rkyler@netnet1.netnet.net (rkyler)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 21:39:09 GMT





Only about 1/2 of the cats around find catnip irresistable.  Mine

prefers basil.



And if you want some, its VERY easy to grow yourself.  I have it

coming up like a weed in my back yard after planting it last year.

And it's wonderful for tummy aches and as a sleep aid.



Kim





T & M Enterprises (entrprzr@warwick.net) wrote:

: Catnip is a member of the mint family. This plants harmless aroma is 

: irresistable to cats.  Stuff some in an old sock & watch the fun!  Grown

: in New york, handpicked and dried in large bunches. If your interested

: send a note email and i will send you more information

: ----

: Michael & Tina Marie Pascoe    T & M Enterprises              

: entrprzr@warwick.net           

:                                

: 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip...for your cat...

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:30:52 GMT



In article <4udmpt$9tc@laslo.netnet.net>,

   rkyler@netnet1.netnet.net (rkyler) wrote:

>

>Only about 1/2 of the cats around find catnip irresistable.  Mine

>prefers basil.



In fact, whether a particular cat finds catnip attractive or not is 

hereditary...I planted catnip in our back yard, and my cat (ornery as 

always) completely ignored it. However, Bert, the neighbour's cat, 

found it so irresistibly attractive, he literally rubbed it into 

oblivion...rolled his 30-pound tomcat mass so enthusiastically through 

its fresh greenery that it expired (mercifully, I must add). He was 

one happy tomcat for about 3 weeks!



Linda



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Roses & Rosehips

From: David Aimone <nesc@albany.net>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 18:51:03 +0000



I've recently planted a Rosa Rugosa.  It has very small rosehips that I 

may be difficult to harvest efficiently.



What kind of rose has the large hip?  Is it Rosa Canina (Dog Rose)?

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Roses & Rosehips

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 15:51:55 GMT



On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 18:51:03 +0000, in alt.folklore.herbs David Aimone

<nesc@albany.net> wrote:



>I've recently planted a Rosa Rugosa.  It has very small rosehips that I 

>may be difficult to harvest efficiently.



R. rugosa usually have the largest hips you can imagine - 1 inch and more in

diameter, 2/3 of an inch high. Does your plant get enough water?



>What kind of rose has the large hip?  Is it Rosa Canina (Dog Rose)?

R. canina usually have small hips.



Henriette



--

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      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Dead doctors dont lie by Dr Wallach surfaces again....: Reply to noisy reply

From: drdoc <drdoc@aztec.co.za>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 22:07:13 +0200



Paul Anacker wrote:

> 



> Well keep your piles to yourself.  Your post didn't respond to the

> statement made.  Are you saying there wasn't a Harvard study or that

> it had different results than those stated.  As it is, your post is

> just noise...



--------------------------------------------------------------

Reply to the noise from drdoc



The article quoted is untracable on medline and ive done full searching

dating from 1974.



It has come to this newsgroup in many forms since 

october 1995 and has been quoted as part of a letter claiming that 

doctors are hiding the cure to diseases- to ensure that the patients 

stay as patients and hence provide ongoing income to medical and 

pharmaceutical workers. I rejected this conspiracy theory ages ago.





I enclose a copy of a letter written by a Greg Schliesmann regarding 

our Dr Wallach in another mailing......................



----------------------------------------------------

Greg Schliesmann wrote:

> 

> Hello...My name is Greg Schliesmann.  Did you know that arthritis

> no longer exists in farm animals?  Wonder why? ... Well it's because

> farmers found special minerals to cure it...FARMERS!

> 

> Well, I'd recomend to you to go to a farmer instead of your doctor

> because there's really no need for your drugs and nasty side effects.

> In fact, 300,000 people are killed in hospitals each year...KILLED...by

> doctors.

> 

> And another FACT:  The average age a doctor EVER reaches is 58!

> Are you doing what your doctor says? ... Chances are you shouldn't

> because I've always said:  "What you listen to is what you become."

> And I sure wouldn't want to become dead at age 58!

> 

> There's this doctor named Joe Wallach.  He went from farmboy to

> veterinarian to medical doctor.  Doctor Wallach tells how you

> can treat...possibly cure your arthritis without needleds or

> drugs, but through nutrition for less than a $1 a day on his

> cassette: Dead Doctors Don't Lie.

> 

> If you want this cassette, e-mail me at eclips00@execpc.com

> and I'll lend you a tape...actually, you can tell me if you

> want to give it back after hearing it.

> 

> Have a nice day,

> Greg Schliesmann

-------------------------------------------------------





  

So what we are seeing is the perpetuation of unsubstantiated 

words.

SHOW ME DATA

I wouldnt think that any HARVARD study of 29 patients would 

be well regarded (even if it does turn up somewhere)..either 

from a statistical point of view as a CURE or DEFINITE outcome 

as the numbers of patients are too small and the statisticians 

would criticise it heavily.



Till then Il continue to sing oh soe mio and WILL make a 

lot of NOISE.



PS I spent time at harvard in my study years and I dont think 

that the word HARVARD should mean we all collapse at the sound 

of the word. The institution may be one of the best in the world - 

but its individual doctors must still stand up to the same criticism 

as anywhere else.



Besides - will the real Joel Wallach please stand up and 

show us his references.





drdoc



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Dead doctors dont lie by Dr Wallach surfaces again....: Reply to noisy reply

From: dscott@mcs.net (Don Scott)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 23:29:47 GMT



I received a copy of the same letter from another sender.   I agree

with you that this is a pile of s--t.   First of all, farm animal;s

are slaughtered long before they run into the chronic problems that

people do.  Secondly  what a farmer will spend to get an animal

healthy is strictly an economic decision, and therefore  animals off

their feed are usually sdlaughtered rather than treated.



If anyone wants to be treated like a farm animal, I can guarantee they

will never suffer from arthritis or other debilitating diseases!!!!!

>I enclose a copy of a letter written by a Greg Schliesmann regarding 

>our Dr Wallach in another mailing......................

>

>----------------------------------------------------

>Greg Schliesmann wrote:

>> 

>> Hello...My name is Greg Schliesmann.  Did you know that arthritis

>> no longer exists in farm animals?  Wonder why? ... Well it's because

>> farmers found special minerals to cure it...FARMERS!

>> 

>  

>So what we are seeing is the perpetuation of unsubstantiated 

>words.

>SHOW ME DATA

Amen.    Forget the caveats and the "MAY" type claims, get the facts.

We really need more objectivity and less subjectivity in this area

without shutting out either conmventional or anternative therapies.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cancer-fighting tea

From: Tamkin/Wynn-Hinman <greenrey@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 13:55:39 -0700



solis wrote:

> 

> Tamkin/Wynn-Hinman wrote:

> >

> > I hope that this may be of use to those who need it.

> >

> >     ---------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > 13/4

> >         Having studied metaphysical and holistic methods of healing for several years, she was determined to find a natural, nondestructive 

alternative to ch

> >         Within six months of consistent use, no tumors were located in my mother's body.

> > She is now the office manager of a family clinic in a small mountain community.  She has bloodwork done every 3-4 months, and for over a year 

now, there hasn

> >         My mother has always been a fighter, and has a very strong will.  Maybe that can account for her "spontaneous remission."  Her 

doctor and medical sci

> >         While I have heard of similar cases involving this tea, I have not known any of them.  I have only personally known of one other 

person using it--a d

> >         I do not, however, think that the tea failed her--we didn't know it then, but when she and her husband finally announced to the 

family that she had c

> >         I've had friends who've lost family to cancer, and in fact was certain for a time that I would lose my mother.  I hope that by 

getting this informati

> >         I am 20 years old.  I do not hold any degrees, nor am I a medical student, though I plan to study alternative forms of healing.  I 

am certainly not a

> >         Before leaving off, I would like to make one final point:  medical "science" as we know it is only 500-600 years old--holistic 

methods of healing pre

> >

> > Blessings and Best Wishes,

> >

> > Aaron K. Wynn-Hinman

> > greenrey@worldnet.att.net

> >

> > INGREDIENTS FOR AND PREPARATION OF

> > ESSIAC TEA, A CANCER-FIGHTING TREATMENT.

> >

> > *I feel that I should warn you ahead of time that individually, these herbs smell terrible!  Combined, they require an iron will to drink.  

That said, there

> >

> > 1/2 cup burdock root

> > 1/4 cup sheep sorrel

> > 1/8 cup slippery elm

> > 1 Tbsp Turkey (Turkish) rhubarb root

> 

> I wonder why she hasn't added Cat's Claw to this list?







I am aware of a few different formulas for preparing the tea, some of the 

commercial ones involving up to 8 different herbs, but something that 

they all have in common are the four herbs I listed...not one legitimate 

version of essiac tea lacks them.  This is also the basic formula that my 

mother used to beat systemic cancer...  And so I would put faith in this 

version just for that reason.  I have been told by a couple of herbalists 

that while many other additives can be benificient to your body's 

cleansing process, when it comes to this tea, most of the extra 

ingredients are window dressing for marketing purposes, i.e.--"Our tea is 

more effective."

	Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.  What matters is that this 

information is made readily available by true healers everywhere...FOR 

FREE.  My prayers go out to anyone stricken with the disease, and I hope 

that you find what works best for you.

	Feel free to eMail me for the recipe if you weren't able to read 

it previously.



Best wishes,

A.K. Wynn-Hinman

greenrey@worldnet.att.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cancer-fighting tea

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 23:06:04 -0400



In article <320565C9.7194@hevanet.com>, solis <solis@hevanet.com> writes:



>I wonder why she hasn't added Cat's Claw to this list?



Because this is Rene Caisse's formula as put out by Gary Glum (also

reprinted in Weed's book "Breast Cancer?Breast Health!"). Weed also

proposes her own brew ("Wessiac") using only burdock, yellow dock and

slippery elm. Her reasoning on this is that yellow dock provides the same

benefits as sheep sorrel and turkey rhubarb, and is more easily obtained. 





I'd be interested in learning about anyone using Weed's Wessiac, and how

effective that they felt it was.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

Sale:

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/sale.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: depression

From: Anna Hults <ahults@efn.org>

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:33:06 -0700



What herbs are good for depression?  (herbs that inhibit serotonin uptake)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Anna Hults 















From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: depression

From: swift@crl.com (Scott)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 10:47:59 GMT



All I can offer is some personal experiance on using Passion Flower,

and Peppermint. Nice combination, and seems to help mild depression.

It's a pleasant tea, and mabey the aromatic of the mint helps as much

as anything. 



Passiflora incarnata is a mild MAO Inhibitor, and a *small* amount 

seems to enhance a positive attitude. I don't know of a herb that 

prevents uptake of any neuro transmitter, but there could be one??



That would be an interesting project indeed, do you know of any way

to monitor levels of serotonin in the brain? I would love to

experiment with something like that.



Take Care, Scotty



Anna Hults <ahults@efn.org> shared:



>What herbs are good for depression?  (herbs that inhibit serotonin uptake)

>Thanks for any suggestions.

>Anna Hults 



















From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: depression

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:32:09 GMT



On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:33:06 -0700, Anna Hults <ahults@efn.org> wrote:



>What herbs are good for depression?  (herbs that inhibit serotonin uptake)

>Thanks for any suggestions.



If you are predisposed to alternative methods, you may be interested in the

diet connection to depression. Here's an article:



From: RBHOGGAN@cbe.ab.ca

Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 00:11:21 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Depression



There is a tremendous volume of information that ties depressive illness 

to gluten intolerance.



In 1976, Dr. Richard Mackarness published his book "NOT ALL IN THE MIND"

through Thorsons of Hammersmith, London, and San Francisco. He repeatedly 

demonstrates that food allergies, especially in gluten allergies or 

intolerance, behavioural and psychiatric symptoms are common. 



Cooke & Holmes, in their book, "COELIAC DISEASE" published by Churchill 

Livingstone, New York, 1984, they repeatedly cite depressive illness as 

THE MOST COMMON symptom of gluten intolerance. They also cite a study 

that demonstrated that newly diagnosed celiacs recover from their 

depressions much more quickly when their diets are supplemented with 

vitamin B6. Of course, malabsorption of fat soluble vitamins is legion in

gluten intolerance, but all vitamin absorption is a problem. The jejunal 

microvilli are damaged such that they do not absorb fats (and therefore 

fat soluble vitamins) very well, but B6, B12, and folic acid deficiencies 

that virtually always accompany gluten intolerance, are all involved in 

neurotransmission. 



Do not be misled. Because fats can be made from other foods, the 

malabsorption associated with gluten intolerance need not suggest an 

underweight condition in our calorie rich diets. 



Dr Kozlowska, in her article "Evaluation of Mental Status of Children 

with Malabsorption Syndrome After Long-Term Treatment" published in 

"PSYCHIATRIA POLSKA" 25/2 Mar/Apr. 1991, identified fully 71% of the 

children they studied as having psychiatric disturbances. 



In "PRINCIPLES OF ANATOMY AND PHYSIOLOGY" 6th ed. by Tortora & 

Anagnostakos, Harper & Row, New York, 1990, the authors make the very 

clear statement:

"you will also learn that certain disorders such as Parkinson's disease, 

Alzheimer's disease, depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia involve 

improperly functioning neurotransmitters."



Opioids, of course, will compete for endorphin receptors in the synapses, 

thus altering the neurotransmission at synapses where the opioids have 

attached.



Zioudrou et. al. in "Opioid Peptides Derived From Food Proteins" in 

"JOURNAL OF BIOLOGICAL CHEMISTRY" vol. 254, no. 7, page 2446, April 10, 

1979, clearly demonstrated that pepsin digests of wheat can form these 

opioids in the gut. 



Husby, et. al. in "Passage of Undegraded Dietary Antigen into the Blood 

of Healthy Adults" in "SCAND. JOURNAL OF IMMUNOLOGY" 22, 1985, 

demonstrate how these opioids pass through the intestinal wall, and into 

the bloodstream. 



Paul H. Black, in "Psychoneuroimmunology: Brain and Immunity" in 

SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN SCIENCE & MEDICINE, vol. 2, issue 6, p. 16, Nov-Dec, 

1995, has shown how opioids may enter the brain through the HPA axis, 

thereby bypassing the blood brain barrier. 



These are just two possible explanations for depression in celiac 

disease. There are many more. The point is that such depressions need to 

be treated with a gluten-free diet, and vitamin supplementation, where 

possible intravenously, because of poor absorption. 



 

I am not a doctor. I am just trying offer an alternative. Please consult 

a physician for advice pertinent to your situation. For instance, if her 

health permits, you might have her fast for three days. If there is an 

improvement, then the problem is quite likely the result of something she 

is eating. A physician would be able to determine if she is fit enough to 

safely undertake such a fast.  



I hope that is helpful,



Ron Hoggan



====================================



Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 21:36:55 -0700 (MST)

From: "Ronald Hoggan, Queen Elizabeth High School" <RBHOGGAN@cbe.ab.ca>

Subject: Re: more on Depression and Gluten on autism list



Hi Don,

You might point the discussion at:

Saelid G, et. al. "Peptide-Containing Fractions in Depression" _Biol 

Psychiatry_ 1985;20: 245-256



This is a report that demonstrates a variation in urinary peptides in

psychotic depression. Nonetheless, it is difficult to argue that opioids

cannot be involved in depression, when this group reports what appear

to be the same peptides in the urine of depressed people, in greater 

quantity than normal. Bear in mind that psychotic depression often 

includes hallucinations.......which brings us back to LSD....

for what its worth, they make the point that the peptides can not be

clearly connected to diet. In fact, they seem to be of the opinion 

that the peptides are endogenous, and a peptidase insufficiency is at the

root of the problem. But isn't it fairly possible that exogenous peptides

with opioid activity, assuming increased intestinal permeability, might

offer an explanation for this? I think so. 



===========================



Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:21:48 -0700 (MST)

From: "Ronald Hoggan, Queen Elizabeth High School" <RBHOGGAN@cbe.ab.ca>



BTW  here is a direct quote:

"Abnormal plasma amino acid concentrations have been found in children with



celiac disease and could be implicated in mood and behavioural disorders."



I'm sure you're aware that peptides are chains of amino acids. 



Goggins & Kelleher "Celiac Disease and Other nutrient Related Injuries to

the Gastrointestinal Tract" _The American Journal of Gastroenterology_

1994; 89(8): S2 -S13.



===========================



For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all Net

resources:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: depression

From: GMF <fieldsge@brutus.datastar.net>

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:54:20 -0700



Donna Whitty wrote:

> 

> On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, ToughtMaster wrote:

> 

> >

> > Have you tried some real good Dope?

> >

> > ya know weed or stuff,

> >

> > If you are depressed Snap out of it, or visit Dr. korvorkian...

> >

> > >

> Such remarks are neither humorous nor helpful.  The author obviously has

> no concept of what depression is or how it effects those who suffer

> with it.  You should at least have the decency to withold comment on

> topics of which you are obviously so ignorant.

> 

> And the worse part of being ignorant and shooting off your mouth, is that

> your comments are hurtful and display a total lack of concern for fellow

> humans, what they may be suffering and how they struggle to cope.  If the

> topics here are beyond your comprehension, then perhaps you should seek

> out less taxing newsgroups.  I for one, do not appreciate such involvement.

> 

> Peace and Hope,

> 

> Donna Frances





pot can be a useful tool in the treatment of clinical depression.



a friend has been able to reduce ans sometimes eliminate her prozac 

dosage by substituting the herb.



at about $80 for a month's supply of 20 mg the cost of prozac and pot are 

about the same for moderate users.  growing your own would be free. and 

if it were leagal it would be very cheap.  this would free the clinically

depressed patient from the clutches of the drug companies and the whims 

of doctors and health care organizations who control our health care 

choices.



i would not reccomend this treatment to anyone with serious underlying 

emotional problems, because it wont help -neither will prozac



the side effects are not as bad either, some are even pleasent.



the best judges of how well one's treatment for depression is working

are the people who live with you.



good luck







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Study Homeopathy or Phytotherapy (herbs)?

From: millerst@cadvision.com (S.J.)

Date: 6 Aug 1996 22:36:00 GMT



I would like to tap into some knowledge out there. I would like to eventually 

study Naturopathy at one of the four colleges in North America but at this time 

I am unable to relocate as I have two small children. 



What I would like to do is study at home probably towards a diploma in 

Homeopathy or towards a Chartered Herbalist diploma. I have read a lot about 

healing in different cultures and that has peaked my interest especilly in the 

herbal remedy route toward healing and holistic medicine. I have read a little 

about Homeopathy but I am not sure I understand the theory of healing with 

remedies that cause the same symptoms manifested by a disease/condition.



Can anyone out there give me some direction or suggest some books to read to 

help me decide which to study?



Thank you,



Stacy Miller  





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Study Homeopathy or Phytotherapy (herbs)?

From: Duplantie <jduplant@mustang.uwo.ca>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 16:21:02 GMT



Stacy Miller <millerst@cadvision.com> wrote:



<snip>

>What I would like to do is study at home probably towards a diploma in 

>Homeopathy or towards a Chartered Herbalist diploma. I have read a lot about 

>healing in different cultures and that has peaked my interest especilly in the 

>herbal remedy route toward healing and holistic medicine. I have read a little 

>about Homeopathy but I am not sure I understand the theory of healing with 

>remedies that cause the same symptoms manifested by a disease/condition.

>

>Can anyone out there give me some direction or suggest some books to read to 

>help me decide which to study?



hello stacy!



i am reading a book on homeopathy right now.  it is called Discovering 

Homeopathy: Medicine For the 21st Century by Dana Ullman.  it is the only 

book i have read on the subject so far, so i don't know if it would be

considered good or not, but i am learning alot from it.  it has inspired 

me to want to learn more and i guess that is the idea since it is an 

introduction book to the field.  grin.  it has a whole chapter devoted to 

pediatrics that you might find interesting.



my understanding for the use of things that cause symptoms is that it 

stimulates the body's natural defense systems against those symptoms 

enabling the person to better combat whatever is making them ill.  they 

use microdoses because it is only to stimulate, not to cause further 

symptoms.  i think.  grin.



the w(a/o)nderer.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Study Homeopathy or Phytotherapy (herbs)?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 00:46:49 -0400



In article <4uafpe$r7s@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, Duplantie

<jduplant@mustang.uwo.ca> writes:



>Discovering 

>Homeopathy: Medicine For the 21st Century by Dana Ullman.  it is the only



>book i have read on the subject so far, so i don't know if it would be

>considered good or not, but i am learning alot from it.



It's an excellent introduction and highly recommended by the homeopathic

physicians that I know.  I also like "The Patient's Guide to Homeopathic

Medicine" by Robert Ullman & Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman.



Another book by Dana Ullman is "Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic

Medicines" written with S.Cummings.  Also try the books of Miranda Castro,

an English homeopath.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore,Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal Medicine

From: rhart@oanet.com (rhart)

Date: 6 Aug 1996 22:47:11 GMT



Hi All



I'm posting this for a friend.



I am looking for schools that teach natural or

herbal medicine. Please respond by email to



rhart@oanet.com



thx in advance



Robert Hart





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: RE: Ginseng and royal jelly

From: esther <esther@i-d.com>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 00:22:26 GMT



I have tried them both in liquid form. I like them.

They are in very pure form. Each bottle is 10ml in box of 30 bottles.



If any one interested in trying them I have a few extra boxes.

I can send you in the mail for only $25.00 each box of 30 bottles.



The $25.00 dollars covers shipping and handling.

If you prefer COD I can send to you COD.





Make a check or money order for  $25.00  and

send it to



Jaime Miguel.

6909 Weedin PL NE #A301

Seattle, WA 98115



or



Email or send a postcard with your postal address so that I can send it 

(COD) cash on delivery to your home.



Email for more details.



Enjoy a healthy life.





Best wishes.





Jaime.



Note: I am using my wife's email account Esther Maria





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginseng and royal jelly

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 04:20:53 GMT



Jaime Miguel, poseing as 

esther (esther@i-d.com) wrote:

: I have tried them both in liquid form. I like them.

: They are in very pure form. Each bottle is 10ml in box of 30 bottles.

: 

: If any one interested in trying them I have a few extra boxes.

: I can send you in the mail for only $25.00 each box of 30 bottles.

: Jaime.

: 

: Note: I am using my wife's email account Esther Maria

 





There are many more econimical sources for this product including me.  If 

Jaime is selling a high quality domestic product, this may be a good deal 

after all.  If this is not the case, ask a more informed friend or e-mail me.



Jim:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: wild yam help please

From: corvus@pudu.microserve.com

Date: 7 Aug 1996 01:41:25 GMT



I would like to know if anyone could give me info on a standardized adult  dosage for wild yam in capsule

form for the management of menopausal symptoms. In specific what percentage of diosgenins should

each capsule contain?





		thank you,



	

			Wyatt  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: wild yam help please

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 12:40:04 -0700



corvus@pudu.microserve.com wrote:



>I would like to know if anyone could give me info on a standardized adult  dosage for wild yam in capsule

>form for the management of menopausal symptoms. In specific what percentage of diosgenins should

>each capsule contain?



Wyatt - 

   For one, dosage of anything  would vary with the symptoms,

and "menopausal symptoms" stem from either too much or too

little of hormones with basically opposite effects.  Michael Moore's

texts explain the difference. (URL escapes me at the moment, but a

search on his name and herbs would get you there)

  Anyway, "Wild Yam" doesn't contain much that would be of help for

menopausal symptoms ... I got curious enough to scrounge the

original research and reasoning behind the use of it as a base

material for synthetic hormones.  The chemical structure they

were after was in a "saponin" which could be chemically ripped 

apart and converted into a precursor of female hormones. The

human body doesn't have the ability to do the massive remodelling to

the molecule that the process requires.  It resembled buying a house

because you liked the kitchen, ripping off all the rest of the house

and adding new living room, family room, baths and bedrooms ... but

keeping the kitchen.  



  More serious burrowing thorugh dusty herbal and old botany texts

showed that the indigenous populations use those species of wild yam

for controlling diarrhea ... it never showed up with any "female"

uses.  Check the uses of Yellow Dock, Vitex, Schizandra and others

more known



Callie



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http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Callie <callie@writepage.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: wild yam help please

From: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 13:51:43 -0700



Callie wrote:

> 

> corvus@pudu.microserve.com wrote:

> 

> >I would like to know if anyone could give me info on a standardized adult

> >dosage for wild yam in capsule form for the management of menopausal symptoms. 

> >In specific what percentage of diosgenins should each capsule contain?

> 



Just to add to Callie's post.  Mexican Wild Yam extract cream in and of itself

will not help for female problems (menopause, PMS, irregular menses, ...)  It

is natural progesterone (which is made from the saponins in MWY extract) that

provides relief.  The typical dosage is 30 to 40 mgs per day, though you can

fine tune that yourself.  The best value that I have found for NP cream is

Women's International Pharmacy.  With a prescription you can get a 10% NP cream

2 oz for $18 including shipping.  If you need more info just email me.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: anacker@fishnet.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: wild yam help please

From: Hawaii Space Center <spazhwi@maui.net>

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:45:28 GMT



HI:

I grow my own wild yam. Can you suggest the

method to process it for consumption. I understand

that fresh wild yam is poisonous and cooking it

in water would kill all the benefits. I am

inclined to the tincture but do not know the

percentage that we are supposed to use.

Thank you, Sam





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Garlic and wart removal

From: xfilon@ix.netcom.com(Katherine Filon )

Date: 7 Aug 1996 02:07:17 GMT



Has any one sucessfully removed a wart with garlic?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Flea control

From: rnpilot <rnpilot@hawaiian.net>

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:12:21 -1000





My uncle, a zoologist, recommends pennyroyal. It can be sprinkled on 

carpet and then vacumed as is done with carpet freshener products. I have 

also heard of people applying pennyroyal oil/extract directly on their 

pets. 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea control

From: Lykos <dtriglia@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 22:26:06 -0700



rnpilot wrote:

> 

> My uncle, a zoologist, recommends pennyroyal. It can be sprinkled on

>carpet and then vacumed as is done with carpet freshener products. I 

>have also heard of people applying pennyroyal oil/extract directly on 

>their pets.



Lykos added:



DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE CATS.  IT IS POISONOUS TO CATS!!!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Flea control

From: Carl Fiadino <fiadino@bccom.com>

Date: 10 Aug 1996 00:26:05 GMT



drgonmarsh@aol.com (DRGONMARSH) wrote:

>In article <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960806160225.11737A-100000@kokee.hawaiian.net>,

>rnpilot <rnpilot@hawaiian.net> writes:

>

>>also heard of people applying pennyroyal oil/extract directly on their 

>>pets. 

>>

>>

>

>DO NOT APPLY IN A PURE FORM! Only diluted oil should be used. We carry a

>oil that is all pre-mixed that includes pennyroyal. Developed by a VET and

>a Herbalist.

>Also A flea powder.  Call (909) 276-1116 for more information.

>

>Dragonmarsh

>3737 6th St 

>Riverside, Ca 92501

We have used a few drops of pennyroyal in a cup of hot

water, dip flea comb into hot water, comb cat, dip comb,

repeat until cat runs away.  you can also put a few drops

of pennyroyal into baking soda and sprinkle on carpet and 

vacuum after an hour...pennyroyal in this type of dose does

not harm the cats...should not be used around anyone pregnant.

good luck.Ginger





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Rooibosch tea and Cowberry

From: yst6101@bora.dacom.co.kr

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:32:56 GMT



Could anyone tell me what the effects and activities of Rooibosch tea

and Cowberry on human health are ?   Rooibosch is the African name for

a tea from a tree known as "bushman" or "red-bush tree".

The Latin name for Cowberry is Vaccinium vitis-idaeal.

Also, I'd like to know the suppliers of both the above materials.

Thanks in advance.



Seong Tae Yoo 

Email address: yst6101@bora.dacom.co.kr





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Rooibosch tea and Cowberry

From: Peter.Bijlsma@net.HCC.nl (Peter Bijlsma)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 20:37:31 GMT



yst6101@bora.dacom.co.kr wrote:



>Could anyone tell me what the effects and activities of Rooibosch tea

>and Cowberry on human health are ?   Rooibosch is the African name for

>a tea from a tree known as "bushman" or "red-bush tree".

>The Latin name for Cowberry is Vaccinium vitis-idaeal.

>Also, I'd like to know the suppliers of both the above materials.

>Thanks in advance.



>Seong Tae Yoo 

>Email address: yst6101@bora.dacom.co.kr



Hello Seong,



In my opinion Rooibosch has no working elements. It's pretty to drink

like other tea or coffee, however it is not toxic and has no

tannic-acid. In my country it is used in alternative therapies when

all toxis are strongly forbidden.



Vaccinium vitis-idaea is available as a homeopathic medicin. It has an

oestrogene working, stimulating resorbtion of calcium in the body and

is also a diurethicum. It is indicated for opsteoporose in the

menopause and for spastic colon, etc.



A supplier for Vaccinium vitis-idaea is for instance:

Steigerwald,

Havelstrasse 5

D-64295 Darmstadt

Germany



(I don't know if they're exporting though)





Regards,

Ria Bijlsma, 

the Netherlands

===============





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Horseradish

From: Peter & Diane Wilkinson <p&d.wilkinson@hunterlink.net.au>

Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:15:12 -0700



Does anyone have any up to date information on Horseradish?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Horseradish

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 14:38:58 GMT



On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:15:12 -0700, in alt.folklore.herbs Peter & Diane

Wilkinson <p&d.wilkinson@hunterlink.net.au> wrote:



>Does anyone have any up to date information on Horseradish?



Please elaborate. Why should old info be outdated all of a sudden? Has the plant

changed lately?



I'm curious.

Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Horseradish

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 04:24:16 GMT



Henriette Kress (HeK@hetta.pp.fi) wrote:

: On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:15:12 -0700, in alt.folklore.herbs Peter & Diane

: Wilkinson <p&d.wilkinson@hunterlink.net.au> wrote:

: 

: >Does anyone have any up to date information on Horseradish?

: 





Does anyone know where any wasabi (Japanese/Korean Horseradish) Plants be 

obtained??



Jim:)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Moratorium Called on Genetically Modified Foods

From: Karen Murphy <murphyk@email.uah.edu>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 14:57:40 GMT



meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY) wrote:

>I have experienced this newsgroup as respectful and gentle, and I would

>really like to see it stay that way.  Not everyone is going to have

>complete knowledge, if they did they wouldn't post.  



That is true, but this is the worst kind of uninformed posting.  These

kinds of statements have sparked hysteria in the past and are quite

capable of doing so again.

>

>I think there's a difference between genetic engineering and hybrids,

>which is what I think Cat was referring to.  I don't know what I'm

>talking about either, but I believe I've heard about genetic

>engineering which is much more drastic, it is done at the cellular

>level by manually changing the DNA.  

>

There is no difference between genetic engineering and hybridization.

What people think of as 'genetic engineering' takes place on all sorts

of levels, from the delicate manipulation of gametes (egg, sperm, pollen

etc) to hand-assisted breeding of plants and animals.  Most genetic

engineering of the type you seem to be referring to involves the 

inclusion of bacterial DNA that provides protection from insect pests

for plants, or the alteration of some plant DNA to produce unsaturated

instead of saturated fats.  None of this research produces directly

harmful products (I will not go into the arguments against that Bt

innoculated potato plant); if they did, they would be economic failures,

like the hairy tomato (a natural mutant somebody found a few years ago).

We don't have enough knowledge right now to mutate things into 

unrecognizable monsters; this means it is a good idea to develope some

ethics about the concept before it becomes an issue, dealing with it

instead of just banning it.  Which, as Cat pointed out, wouldn't be

feasible anyway.

>Meadow

>*******************

>

Karen Murphy



>In <4tjpdo$pb1@news.internetmci.com> catcagle@TurboNet.com (Cathleen

>Cagle) writes: 

>>

>>jtoth@fairfield.com (Joe Toth) encrypted:

>>>Dr John Hagelin's Natural Law Party is calling for a total moratorium

>>>on the release of genetically modified

>>>organisms. At the *very least* any food products containing such

>>>materials should be clearly labelled so that we can choose what we

>>>eat.

>>

>>









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: st. john's wort

From: "richard or heather rudnicki" <rudnicki@inav.net>

Date: 7 Aug 1996 15:25:07 GMT



what can i put in my st. john's wort tea to make it taste a little better?



heather



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: st. john's wort

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:49:33 GMT



In <01bb8474$97361f80$136b78c7@inav.net> "richard or heather rudnicki"

<rudnicki@inav.net> writes: 

>

>what can i put in my st. john's wort tea to make it taste a little

better?

>

Honey, small amounts of peppermint, anise, star anise; a tiny amount of

licorice or lemon, things like that. Some use a little sugar if the

honey does not help.



James



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: st. john's wort

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 07:50:03 -0700



"richard or heather rudnicki" <rudnicki@inav.net> wrote:



>what can i put in my st. john's wort tea to make it taste a little better?



A bit of peppermint and honey helps

Callie



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http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Earthway Book

From: Mary-Margaret_Mastin@RedwoodFN.org (Mary-Margaret Mastin)

Date: 07 Aug 1996 16:08:08 GMT



Yes it's great book!

mary-margaret_mastin@redwoodfn.org

post me



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Clipart

From: glenn@roseward.demon.co.uk (G Wizz)

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 16:30:01 GMT



Anyone know where I can get clipart of herbs



Putting together a book for someone and don't fancy drawing them



Scanning seems to be the easiest way at the moment



Unless any of you know where there is some ?



Cheers Glenn





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Clipart

From: "Cissy . Thorpe" <cthorpe@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu>

Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 12:02:17 -0500







On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, G Wizz wrote:



> Anyone know where I can get clipart of herbs

> 

> Putting together a book for someone and don't fancy drawing them

> 

> Scanning seems to be the easiest way at the moment

> 

> Unless any of you know where there is some ?

> 

> Cheers Glenn

> 

> 

> 

Try http://www.herbweb.com



A pretty good, cross referenced site.  It has lots of good drawings.  

They print just fine on my HP4+ laser jet.....and they look like hand 

drawings. 



Cissy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: cthorpe@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Clipart

From: Carolyn Staggs <cstaggs@mail.arizona.edu>

Date: 12 Aug 1996 20:39:17 GMT





Per the request for a site of herbal clip art, the following 

has a good selection:



http://www.halcyon.com/fletcher/clipart.html



-- 

Carolyn Staggs

BARA

University of Arizona

Tucson, AZ







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Clipart

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 21:51:14 GMT



glenn@roseward.demon.co.uk (G Wizz) wrote:



>Anyone know where I can get clipart of herbs



>Putting together a book for someone and don't fancy drawing them



>Scanning seems to be the easiest way at the moment



>Unless any of you know where there is some ?



>Cheers Glenn



I saw a bunch of herbs on one of my clipart CD-ROM discs and

believe it was the first collection from Corel that it was

in.  Haven't sprung for the cost of the 2nd Corel collection

yet, so don't know about it.



Let me know if it isn't in there and I'll go through the

discs (I've got about 10--hooked on clipart, I guess) and

give you better information later. 



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: yarrow salve recipes wanted

From: ag151@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Diane Cooper)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 16:45:51 GMT



I have common yarrow growing wild. Instead of just destroying this plant, 

I would prefer to try to use it. Any information on a useful and safe salve

using it would be appreciated. Thank you. Diane Cooper ag151@ccn.cs.dal.ca



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: yarrow salve recipes wanted

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:32:55 -0500



In article <4uah7v$bbl@apollo.isisnet.com>, ag151@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Diane

Cooper) wrote:



> I have common yarrow growing wild. Instead of just destroying this plant, 

> I would prefer to try to use it. Any information on a useful and safe salve

> using it would be appreciated. Thank you. Diane Cooper ag151@ccn.cs.dal.ca



You can add Yarrow to salves because of its antiseptic properties. Leaves

and flowers are used of the plant. Yarrow can be taken internally. It is

used for: Bleeding piles, blood purifier, blood in urine, colds, deficient

urinary function, epdidymitis, hemorrhage(lungs), hemorroids, jaundice,

measles, piles, skin diseases. Those are just internal uses. Yarrow also

makes a really neat lawn. you can let it grow and mow it like grass. Don't

allow it to bloom just let it spread out. It is nice to walk on. I hope

you don't destroy your yarrow after this. I make salves and have my own

herbal business. I teach classes on how to make tinctures, salves, oils,

balms, etc. I can send you information.



Catherine

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407 729-0104



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs

From: KZFC35A@prodigy.com (Ken Hickok)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 19:20:21 GMT



Can someone tell me know to get starting in grow herbs indoor.  I dont 

have a garden to grow them.  But I love to cook with fresh herbs the best.

  I wont to try my hand at grow them indoors.  If someone can get this 

info or where ti get the best info I would be very glad.  Please to to my 

email address kzfc35a@prodigy.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: KZFC35A@prodigy.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs

From: Jodi <jo.ferri@sympatico.ca>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 23:01:56 GMT



KZFC35A@prodigy.com (Ken Hickok) wrote:

>Can someone tell me know to get starting in grow herbs indoor.  I dont 

>have a garden to grow them.  But I love to cook with fresh herbs the best.

>  I wont to try my hand at grow them indoors.  If someone can get this 

>info or where ti get the best info I would be very glad.  Please to to my 

>email address kzfc35a@prodigy.com

>



It's not very difficult to grow herbs indoors but you do need adequate 

light.  A very sunny window or some grow lights will do nicely.  Buying 

some plants from a reputable nursery is easier for new plant people than 

starting them by seed (but you can give this a try too if you are 

adventurous enough).  Just water them once a week or so, when they are 

dry to the touch and you can give them a little fish emulsion fertilizer 

every month or so, according to the product instructions.  Great herbs to 

try are parsley, chives, basil, mint, oregano, and lemon verbena but try 

any others you might be interested in because there's not much to lose.



Good luck,



Jodi





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: best herb to use with medical problem??

From: KZFC35A@prodigy.com (Ken Hickok)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 19:24:20 GMT



I have been diagnosed with Irritable bowel syndrome.  I'm tryto change my 

lifestyleto help withthe healing process.  But need help  please send 

info to kzfc35a@prodigy.com







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: best herb to use with medical problem??

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 96 06:31:00 EST



In article <4uaqh4$tia@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com>, KZFC35A@prodigy.com says...

>

>I have been diagnosed with Irritable bowel syndrome.  



See my post called "Diet and Supplement Tips" and follow

the bowel program, which consists of turmeric powder and fennel

seeds.



If it is not desired to eat the spices directly, turmeric

and fennel seed capsules are available at many herb shops.

Take three of each morning and night, and avoid un_sterilized_

dairy products, for three weeks.  Then report your results.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: best herb to use with medical problem??

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:18:11 GMT



KZFC35A@prodigy.com (Ken Hickok) wrote:



>I have been diagnosed with Irritable bowel syndrome.  I'm tryto change my 

>lifestyleto help withthe healing process.  But need help  please send 

>info to kzfc35a@prodigy.com



Hi Ken......

	One of the best remedies is taking capsules of slippery elm, or

drinking slippery elm tea. Made from the bark of slippery elm, this

herb is extremely soothing and nourishing to the entire digestive

tract, particularly mucous membranes which line intestines and all

digestive organs and canals.

	I've personally seen slippery elm work wonders for all types of

intestinal problems, including diverticulitis and diverticulosis.



Hope this helps, John Midura, Eden's Emporium









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Searching for Alchemy info

From: reusche2@marshall.edu (Warren Reuschel)

Date: 7 Aug 96 15:26:18 EDT



I am currently searching for information dealing with alchemy, 

especially the use of plants.  I would greatly appreciate any direction 

or information



Warren Reuschel, reusche2@marshall.edu





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Searching for Alchemy info

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 7 Aug 1996 17:56:03 -0700



reusche2@marshall.edu (Warren Reuschel) wrote:



>I am currently searching for information dealing with alchemy, 

>especially the use of plants.  I would greatly appreciate any direction 

>or information



Try the groups with "pagan" or "wicca" in their titles.



Callie



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http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Is tofu really good for menopause?

From: Magpie

Date: 7 Aug 1996 21:01:07 GMT



	I know a person who swears that tofu has eased her

menopause problems, because it has an estrogen-like substance in

it.  Anyone try or hear more on this subject?



Thank you,

Magpie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: DHEA 

From: trish@kosmos.apana.org.au (Patricia Ziliani)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 01:14:40 GMT



I was recently very pleased to find that I could purchase DHEA

troches here in Sydney Australia. What I need to know is- what do

they make the actual troche from. Mine is very green and has a very

strong mint flavour as well as being quite sweet.

The Pharmacist trained in the USA so I presume he follows the same

recipe.

I am concerned that the troche may contain aspartame (nutrasweet)

and artificial coloring. The day after a use a troche I have a

migraine and visual disturbances much the same as if I

inadvertently ingest either of the above mentioned substances.



Look forward to hearing the replies. 



Patricia Ziliani Mt. Hunter NSW Australia





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Need catalogs in Philippines

From: Peter Albert <pda@wolfenet.com>

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:24:07 -0700



I	am	interested in sources of medicinal herbs/ seeds, to be used in 

massage oils, soaps, and teas.  This is for a self-help economic 

development project for farmers in highlands of Philippines.  Please 

send me information on seed catalogs, or suppliers of refined oils etc. 

Thanks.

____________

Jaye Colorado

jaye@jmf.org.ph

Philippines



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Saw Palmetto Berries

From: Sheri Harris <sherih@earthlink.net>

Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 22:36:37 -0700



I know Saw Palmemtto Berries are excellent for the male reproductive 

system, but what else is this good for?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pilewort

From: Wolfgang Schmidt <wschmidt@awinc.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 00:01:47 -0700



Jethro Kloss in Back to Eden writes about Pilewort, Amaranthus

hypochondriacus.



I have tried to get this dried herb and various stores have mailed me

various plants, as there seems to be a confusion in several herb books.



Who knows the real stuff ? ... and where can I get it ?

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: miche@fhills.starway.net.au

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 11:31:21 GMT



I am trying to obtain information regarding Cats Claw in order to list

it as a therapeutic substance in Australia.



Unfortunately I cannot seem to find it in our government listings

under 'Uncaria tomentosa"



If anyone knows of any other latin or common names that this herb goes

by, could you please reply to  miche@fhills.starway.net.au



Thanks in advance

Michelle





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:07:23 GMT



In article <4uepjb$ndj@gunmetal.starway.net.au>, 

miche@fhills.starway.net.au says...

>

>I am trying to obtain information regarding Cats Claw in order to list

>it as a therapeutic substance in Australia.

>

>Unfortunately I cannot seem to find it in our government listings

>under 'Uncaria tomentosa"

>

>If anyone knows of any other latin or common names that this herb goes

>by, could you please reply to  miche@fhills.starway.net.au

>

>Thanks in advance

>Michelle

>



Try looking under "Una de gato", with a ~ over the n in una.  



Rima





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: kira@sonic.net (Kira Ivory)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:08:51 GMT



Several weeks ago I took Cat's Claw capsules, "Now" brand, 2 a day, and

they made me feel a bit tired, but were a mild laxative, and I thought I

needed a good cleansing. I thought this would be one good part of a

program. When I increased to 4 a day, I had mild flu-like symptoms, and

could not work or think clearly enough to work.



This happened twice, because I wasn't sure the first time of the cause.

So my question is, has anyone out there experienced similar reactions?

My friends said it was great stuff for them. I do have food allergies

(sensitivities) to many proteins, so I thought maybe that was a factor.



I was really disappointed.





--

						Kira Ivory	

						kira@sonic.net

						http://www.sonic.net/~kira



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: oliverk@axionet.com (oliver)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:04:34 -0400







Funny, I've got a wierd flu after taking Cat's Claw for about 2 weeks,

although it seems to have made the abdominal pain that I had in my lower

RHS. (See my posting : Cat's Claw and Gut Pain??) a fair bit better. I

still have a wierd oil slick whenever I have a bowel movement. This whole

gut pain scenario started with flu like symptoms last November.  Could

this be part of the healing process? Maybe the disease organisms are being

flushed out of the crevices of the intestinal tract and are being noticed

by the immune system.



Any ideas ???



Oliver







In article <32196313.31462193@news.sonic.net>, kira@sonic.net (Kira Ivory)

wrote:



> Several weeks ago I took Cat's Claw capsules, "Now" brand, 2 a day, and

> they made me feel a bit tired, but were a mild laxative, and I thought I

> needed a good cleansing. I thought this would be one good part of a

> program. When I increased to 4 a day, I had mild flu-like symptoms, and

> could not work or think clearly enough to work.

> 

> This happened twice, because I wasn't sure the first time of the cause.

> So my question is, has anyone out there experienced similar reactions?

> My friends said it was great stuff for them. I do have food allergies

> (sensitivities) to many proteins, so I thought maybe that was a factor.

> 

> I was really disappointed.

> 

> 

> --

>                                                 Kira Ivory      

>                                                 kira@sonic.net

>                                                 http://www.sonic.net/~kira



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: cbach@arizona.edu (cheryl )

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 07:50:42 +0700



sounds like a cleansing to me.  i just started taking 'cats claw' for

arthritis....from day one, it has worked(for my rhum arthritis).  i don't

have any of the symptoms you-all have - the directions on my 'cats claw'

were to take with lots of water a bit before meals....i do find when i

don't drink enough water, my stomach feels queasy...

hope this helps...cheryl



In article <oliverk-2008961204340001@mb207.axionet.com>,

oliverk@axionet.com (oliver) wrote:



*Funny, I've got a wierd flu after taking Cat's Claw for about 2 weeks,

*although it seems to have made the abdominal pain that I had in my lower

*RHS. (See my posting : Cat's Claw and Gut Pain??) a fair bit better. I

*still have a wierd oil slick whenever I have a bowel movement. This whole

*gut pain scenario started with flu like symptoms last November.  Could

*this be part of the healing process? Maybe the disease organisms are being

*flushed out of the crevices of the intestinal tract and are being noticed

*by the immune system.

*

*Any ideas ???

*

*Oliver

*

*

*

*In article <32196313.31462193@news.sonic.net>, kira@sonic.net (Kira Ivory)

*wrote:

*

*> Several weeks ago I took Cat's Claw capsules, "Now" brand, 2 a day, and

*> they made me feel a bit tired, but were a mild laxative, and I thought I

*> needed a good cleansing. I thought this would be one good part of a

*> program. When I increased to 4 a day, I had mild flu-like symptoms, and

*> could not work or think clearly enough to work.

*> 

*> This happened twice, because I wasn't sure the first time of the cause.

*> So my question is, has anyone out there experienced similar reactions?

*> My friends said it was great stuff for them. I do have food allergies

*> (sensitivities) to many proteins, so I thought maybe that was a factor.

*> 

*> I was really disappointed.

*> 

*> 

*> --

*>                                                 Kira Ivory      

*>                                                 kira@sonic.net

*>                                                 http://www.sonic.net/~kira

-- 

cbach@arizona.edu

cheryl bach

university of arizona

***all my relations***



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cats Claw Help Please

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:12:07 -0700



oliver wrote:

> 

> Funny, I've got a wierd flu after taking Cat's Claw for about 2 weeks,

> although it seems to have made the abdominal pain that I had in my lower

> RHS. (See my posting : Cat's Claw and Gut Pain??) a fair bit better. I

> still have a wierd oil slick whenever I have a bowel movement. This whole

> gut pain scenario started with flu like symptoms last November.  Could

> this be part of the healing process? Maybe the disease organisms are being

> flushed out of the crevices of the intestinal tract and are being noticed

> by the immune system.



Any chance the "oil slick" may be mucus?  You may have mucus colitis or irritable 

bowel syndrome. These disorders are relatively benign, but they are very 

uncomfortable.  You may wanna see the doc to rule out more serious disease, such as a 

parasitic infection or diverticulitis.



Solis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Cats Claw Help Please

From: jerry smith <jsmith@en.com>

Date: 18 Aug 1996 21:43:39 GMT



Some time ago Michelle from Australia sent this post. I tried to

answer her by email but I don"t think she got the post. So, Michelle,

here goes......Una de gato, una de gavilan, garabato, and paraguayo

are all (South American) names for Uncaria tomentosa or Uncaria 

guianensis, both species of Cats Claw. Both are woody, climbing vines

growing in the Peruvian Amazon. They belong to the plant family

Rubiaceae, and both seem to have similiar herbal medical uses, 

according to some herbalists. Incidentally, I"ve used Cats Claw myself

and it worked better than Goldenseal and Echinachea for my flu 

symptoms. Hope this helps you some.



                                    In good health,

                                    Jerry  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Inner Ear Congestion/Wax Buildup

From: feustel@netcom.com (Dave Feustel)

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:59:50 GMT



Blocked Eustachean tubes are often the result of swelling which

in my case, seems to have been caused by an allergy to milk.



Wax buildup should not occur in a normally configured ear canal.

(Mastoide) Ear surgery can result in wax buildup. Pharmacies sell an

alcohol-glycol solution for dealing with "swimmer's ear".

This solution softens hardened ear wax and makes it easier to remove.

-- 

Dave Feustel		http://feustel.mixi.net

219-483-1857		mailto:feustel@netcom.com



My Website Server is up at http://feustel.mixi.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Inner Ear Congestion/Wax Buildup

From: Concrete <concrete@nac.net>

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 12:50:43 -0700



Dave Feustel wrote:

> 

> Blocked Eustachean tubes are often the result of swelling which

> in my case, seems to have been caused by an allergy to milk.

> 

> Wax buildup should not occur in a normally configured ear canal.

> (Mastoide) Ear surgery can result in wax buildup. Pharmacies sell an

> alcohol-glycol solution for dealing with "swimmer's ear".

> This solution softens hardened ear wax and makes it easier to remove.

> --

> Dave Feustel            http://feustel.mixi.net

> 219-483-1857            mailto:feustel@netcom.com

> 

> My Website Server is up at http://feustel.mixi.net



	Save your money, Dave! It's much easier to make a 50/50 mix of 

rubbing alcohol and vinegar (I've never experimented with strengths of 

either, so try whatever is on hand) and put a few drops in your ear. I 

bought a swimmer's ear solution and it cost me close to $6 for it. I 

nearly kicked myself when I found both major ingredients to it sitting in 

my cupboards...



Concrete (.)  (.)

         ________





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: Inner Ear Congestion/Wax Buildup

From: whump@ix.netcom.com(Mary Faith Rhoads )

Date: 16 Aug 1996 05:19:06 GMT



In <320F8B13.3E94@nac.net> Concrete <concrete@nac.net> writes: 

>

>Dave Feustel wrote:

>> 

>> Blocked Eustachean tubes are often the result of swelling which

>> in my case, seems to have been caused by an allergy to milk.

>> 

>> Wax buildup should not occur in a normally configured ear canal.

>> (Mastoide) Ear surgery can result in wax buildup. Pharmacies sell an

>> alcohol-glycol solution for dealing with "swimmer's ear".

>> This solution softens hardened ear wax and makes it easier to

remove.

>> --

>> Dave Feustel            http://feustel.mixi.net

>> 219-483-1857            mailto:feustel@netcom.com

>> 

>> My Website Server is up at http://feustel.mixi.net

>

>	Save your money, Dave! It's much easier to make a 50/50 mix of 

>rubbing alcohol and vinegar (I've never experimented with strengths of



>either, so try whatever is on hand) and put a few drops in your ear. I



>bought a swimmer's ear solution and it cost me close to $6 for it. I 

>nearly kicked myself when I found both major ingredients to it sitting

in 

>my cupboards...

>

>Concrete (.)  (.)

>         ________

>

My doctor has also suggested a 50/50 solution of alcohol and hydrogen

peroxide...



cheers, mf







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: giardia help

From: Cindy Pflugh <cindyp@axxess.net>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 09:29:40 -0600



Hi!

I am new at this newsgroup thing, so bare with me...

Can someone give me some suggestions on how to get rid of giardia?

My little boy seems to have been the lucky one.(ugh!)  I would much

rather kill the little parasite with herbs than the other.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Sincerely

Cindy Pflugh

cindyp@axxess.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: giardia help

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 19:04:13 -0700



Cindy Pflugh wrote:

> 

> Hi!

> I am new at this newsgroup thing, so bare with me...

> Can someone give me some suggestions on how to get rid of giardia?

> My little boy seems to have been the lucky one.(ugh!)  I would much

> rather kill the little parasite with herbs than the other.

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



What are his symptoms?  How do you know that he has giardia?



Solis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: giardia help

From: knader@compline.com (K. Nader)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:07:12 GMT



	On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 09:29:40 -0600, Cindy Pflugh

<cindyp@axxess.net> wrote:



>Hi!

>I am new at this newsgroup thing, so bare with me...

>Can someone give me some suggestions on how to get rid of giardia?

>My little boy seems to have been the lucky one.(ugh!)  I would much

>rather kill the little parasite with herbs than the other.

>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

>

>Sincerely

>Cindy Pflugh

>cindyp@axxess.net



Wormwood and Garlic are supposed to help rid the body of parasites.



Best wishes



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: giardia help

From: sem5c@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Susan Elizabeth Morris)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 20:50:50 GMT



Cindy,

Been there.  Last summer, my son also contracted girardia (we

think via swimming in a lake).  The diagnostic process was

frustrating and too long, especially underscored by his

discomfort.  Upon diagnosis however, he was immediately

prescribed some meds which caused no side-effects whatsoever

and releived him of his symptoms within a week.  I respect your

desire to offer herbal remedies, but in recalling my son's

discomfort and simple solution, I encourage you to seek medical

attention as well.  Good luck - hope he soon feels better.



Sue



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: giardia help

From: yaamaaha@aol.com (Yaamaaha)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 20:36:50 -0400



oxyquiniline sulfate will cure giardia - as will drinking your own urine -

provided you are not on any aleopathic drugs..consider it a homeopathic

vaccine of sorts..



Kat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbalist groups in the Boston area

From: Amy Smith <amsmith@bart-savagewood.mit.edu>

Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:34:31 GMT



Does anyone know of any groups in the Boston, MA area concerned with 

herbalism or ethnobotany?



--Amy Smith



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbalist groups in the Boston area

From: katel@mv.mv.com (Katharine Lindner)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:37:42 GMT



Amy Smith <amsmith@bart-savagewood.mit.edu> writes:



>Does anyone know of any groups in the Boston, MA area concerned with 

>herbalism or ethnobotany?



>--Amy Smith

  You could try the New England Wildflower Society, 180 Hemenway Road, 

Framingham MA 01701 508-877-7630.



                                                Kathy 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Best herbs for digestive/intestinal disorders ?

From: 10521.353@compuserve.com (Frank Bennet)

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 17:27:22 GMT





Can anyone supply me with a recomendation for herbal treatments for

intestinal/digestive disorders ?



I've read that Cats Claw is good. Are there any others that might be

better ?



Thanks for any help.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Best herbs for digestive/intestinal disorders ?

From: Bob Gale <rhgale@courant.infi.net>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 15:14:13 GMT



Kuzu cream (starch).... Japanese in origin



10521.353@compuserve.com (Frank Bennet) wrote:

>

>Can anyone supply me with a recomendation for herbal treatments for

>intestinal/digestive disorders ?

>

>I've read that Cats Claw is good. Are there any others that might be

>better ?

>

>Thanks for any help.



Bob





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Best herbs for digestive/intestinal disorders ?

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:24:23 GMT



On Thu, 08 Aug 1996, 10521.353@compuserve.com (Frank Bennet) wrote:



>Can anyone supply me with a recomendation for herbal treatments for

>intestinal/digestive disorders ?



Probably depends on what is causing the intestinal/digestive disorder. Have

you investigated whether you are intolerant to gluten? It is a very common

intolerance and is hard to pin down due to the pervasiveness of gluten in

today's diet.



For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all Net

resources:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Best herbs for digestive/intestinal disorders ?

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 20:50:57 -0500



In article <320d0b9b.111043190@news.panix.com>, donwiss@panix.com (Don

Wiss) wrote:



> On Thu, 08 Aug 1996, 10521.353@compuserve.com (Frank Bennet) wrote:

> 

> >Can anyone supply me with a recomendation for herbal treatments for

> >intestinal/digestive disorders ?

> 

> Probably depends on what is causing the intestinal/digestive disorder. Have

> you investigated whether you are intolerant to gluten? It is a very common

> intolerance and is hard to pin down due to the pervasiveness of gluten in

> today's diet.

> 

> For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all Net

> resources:

> 

>   The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/

> 

> Don.

Demulcent herbs soothe irritated or inflamed membranes of the digestive

tract and protect them. Examples: Comfrey root, Irish Moss, Oatstraw,

Marshmallow, and Slippery elm.

Anti-Spasmodic herbs relax nervous tension that may be causing digestive

spasms. Examples: Chamomile, Hops, Skullcap, Passionflower, And valerian.

Carminative Herbs stimulates the peristalis of the digestive system,

Relaxes the stomach, thereby supporting the digestion and helping against

gas in the digestive tract. Examples: Peppermint, dill, Thyme, Caraway,

Garlic, sage, Chamomile, Ginger.

A medical diagnosis is important. There are many herbs and herbal remedies

that you can try but get a diagnosis first and if you already know what is

wrong and need information on any herbs or herbal formulas E-Mail us. 



Catherine

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Valerian was Re: new to the group

From: Donna Whitty <donnaf@oscar.teclink.net>

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:37:39 -0500



Please be aware that a small percentage of people taking valerian will 

react in an opposite manner than intended.  That is, valerian causes a 

small percentage of people (maybe four percent or less) to become wired 

instead of relaxed.  But having said that...



Fortunately, it does not have this effect on me.  I can't get around the 

taste to drink it in a tea, but I do occasionally take the capsules to 

relax and sleep.  I find the combination of hops and valerian to be 

particularly effective for me.  



Peace and Hope,



Donna Frances





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Anemia-what to take?

From: Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM>

Date: 8 Aug 1996 21:11:32 GMT



My friend has just found out she has anemia. She is in great shape

and exercises daily and other than anemia is in perfect health 

except she gets tired. I am wondering if there is anything vitamin 

she could take to help anemia. Any info would be great.



PAtty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anemia-what to take?

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:09:06 GMT



Hi Patricia.....

	Anemia is not just a condition that can be treated like a headache.

Knowing that anemia is a shortage of red blood cells, there has to be

a reason why this conditon is occurring. And there can be many reasons

why the body either doesn't produce enough RBC's or is leaking or

depleting them. I'd strongly suggest trying to find out the cause,

treating the cause and supplimenting with vitamins & herbs if needed.



John





Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM> wrote:



>My friend has just found out she has anemia. She is in great shape

>and exercises daily and other than anemia is in perfect health 

>except she gets tired. I am wondering if there is anything vitamin 

>she could take to help anemia. Any info would be great.



>PAtty







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anemia-what to take?

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 07:58:03 -0700



Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM> wrote:



>My friend has just found out she has anemia. 

  Anemia is the SYMPTOM of many things, some easily remedied and

others are really serious (anything from a bad diet to ulcers to some

nasty parasites to cancer can produce anemia).

  To be blunt  - it isn't something one can blindly recommend herbs

for without seeing the results of the blood tests, and doing a

physical exam.

   What kind of anemia?  Microcytic? Macrocytic? Are there nucleated

RBCs in the smears?  Is the WBC morphology normal?  What is her iron

level, her iron binding capacity, and her B12 and folate levels?  What

is the result of the stool exam?  Are any of her lymph nodes enlarged

or abnormal feeling?  Are there any lumps or masses in her abdomen? Is

her menstrual cycle normal?  What medications and herbs is she taking

already?  What is her diet like? 



>She is in great shape

>and exercises daily and other than anemia is in perfect health 

>except she gets tired.

   Tired is the r4esult of the anemia ... not enough oxygen getting to

the body because of not enough red cells

Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anemia-what to take?

From: semerson@teleport.com (Steve Emerson)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 16:55:52 GMT



Patricia Turrell (74163.2126@CompuServe.COM) wrote:

: My friend has just found out she has anemia. She is in great shape

: and exercises daily and other than anemia is in perfect health 

: except she gets tired. I am wondering if there is anything vitamin 

: she could take to help anemia. Any info would be great.



Vitamin E promotes oxygen transport.



Also, she might consider researching Candida albicans on the Web,

which is a fungus which plagues many people.  The fungus releases

a toxin which can cause anemia.  She can check if she has any

symptoms matching candiasis.





--



semerson@teleport.COM  Public Access User -- Not affiliated with Teleport



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anemia-what to take?

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:29:51 GMT



On 8 Aug 1996, Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM> wrote:



>My friend has just found out she has anemia.



She should really investigate the cause of her anemia. A disorder that

commonly causes it is celiac disease, aka gluten intolerance. This is

because the gluten damages the first part of the intestine and that is

where the iron is absorbed. I would highly recommend your friend to be

tested for this disorder, which can easily be controlled with a diet

change. Also an undiagnosed celiac can present with anemia and no other

symptoms.



For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all Net

resources:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anemia-what to take?

From: Randy & Pam Workman <workmanr@spots.ab.ca>

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:10:00 GMT



I don't know if anyone else has heard of this happening before.  I have 

always had chronic anemia.  Just slightly low, nothing that the doctors 

have ever been worried about.  I have tried taking iron supplements, but 

they make me throw up.  Basically I just forgot about it.  I started 

having prolems about a year and a half ago, getting "the 'flu" all the 

time, throwing up like crazy every week or two and really unwell.  I 

finally figured out that beef and dairy products were making me sick, and 

cut all red meat and almost all dairy products out of my diet.  I was 

concerned when I went for my next physical that my hem count would really 

be down.  Amazingly, for the first time in my life I have no anemia.  The 

doctors tell you to eat red meat for anemia, but it wasn't until I 

stopped that I got over it!  Does this make sense to anyone else?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ginko-weird dreams?

From: Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM>

Date: 8 Aug 1996 21:15:43 GMT



My husband and I started to take ginko to sharpen up our mental 

abilities and the first night my husband took it he had really 

weird dreams, for example he dreamed of ways to organize things 

for our move in six months and other ways to organize things 

better.  We thought it was kind of funny that he dreamed this 

after taking ginko.  If anyone else has had this experience let me 

know. Thanks!



Patty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko-weird dreams?

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:02:20 GMT



Patricia.....

	Haven't heard of this experience but it does make absolute sense.

Gingko is a vaso-dialator, used for increasing blood flow. That's what

makes it a wonderful memory stimulator, particularly in cases of

senile dementia or memory debilitation. Looks like it's doing a fine

job for both of you. You might want to ask your husband if there's

been improvement in the lower extremity. Because of the

vaso-dialation, Ginkgo is an excellent remedy or help for attaining

erections which have become diminished due to poor circulation. Many

men, in excellent health have noticed increased abilities.



Hope this helps....John Midura, Eden's Emporium.



Patricia Turrell <74163.2126@CompuServe.COM> wrote:



>My husband and I started to take ginko to sharpen up our mental 

>abilities and the first night my husband took it he had really 

>weird dreams, for example he dreamed of ways to organize things 

>for our move in six months and other ways to organize things 

>better.  We thought it was kind of funny that he dreamed this 

>after taking ginko.  If anyone else has had this experience let me 

>know. Thanks!



>Patty







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: lavender

From: norachaz@aol.com (Nora Chaz)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 18:30:20 -0400



I have read that lavender is very soothing.  It is also reputed to be good

for healing burns.  I also read somewhere that a few drops on a cottonball

in the ear can be helpful for ear infections. 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: bruising

From: lisaw <lisaw@surfsouth.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 16:55:17 -0700



I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

Anybody ever heard of this?



Lisa

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 :  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  :

 :     Web Site:  http://www.surfsouth.com/~lisaw    :

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: bruising

From: jmidura@map.com (john midura)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 00:54:39 GMT



Hi Lisa......

	Two herbs are extremely beneficial to bruising.



For new bruises......

	Apply mullein flower oil. Mullein is a tall plant that grows in waste

or road side places. It is a biennial. During the second year it

shoots up a tall stalk, sometimes 5 or 6 feet, covered with yellow

flowers. It's leaves are large and covered with fine hair, sort of in

a fountain spray shape

	Just cut 3 stalks of mullein and keep them in water. Keep a jar of

sweet almond or extra virgin olive oil, about 10 ozs. next to the

stalks. As the flowers open, pinch them off, macerate a little and

then immerse in the oil. Keep the oil and flower mixture in a sunny

window. After three weeks, strain the oil, and now you have mullein

flower oil. Apply this to new bruises or contusions. Will prevent the

usual black and blue. Might want to apply about 3 to 4 times daily.

Excellent to prevent goose eggs on the little ones when they

accidently fall and bang their heads.



For older black & blues, pick a few plantain leaves and macerate them

with a little warm water. Add some olive oil and apply this mixture to

the bruise as a poltice. Cover the herb and reapply daily. Plaintain

has an excellent ability to break down the clotted blood under the

skin surface. I have seen this work wonders on some pretty huge

bruises. One client of mine saw his physician who just told him it

would take weeks for his to go away. He applied the plantain mixture

and the bruise, or hemotoma was gone in 2 days! By the way, dried

plantain also works just as well.



Hope this helps.    John Midura, Eden's Emporium







lisaw <lisaw@surfsouth.com> wrote:



>I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

>Anybody ever heard of this?



>Lisa

>-- 

>                       \\\\///

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> :      Lisa Weaver            Lisaw@surfsouth.com   :

> :  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  :

> :     Web Site:  http://www.surfsouth.com/~lisaw    :

> :              >>>>Galations 6:9<<<<                :

> +---------------------------------------------------+

>                      _| | | |_

>                     (___| |___)









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: bruising

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:26:50 GMT



In article <320A7E65.1B4B@surfsouth.com>, lisaw <lisaw@surfsouth.com> 

wrote:

>I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

>Anybody ever heard of this?



Arnica is wonderful: you can get a homeopathic cream preparation (at 

least in Canada you can...) to apply 3-4 times daily. The bruises 

disappear within 48 hrs. Try a health-food store, or find a naturopath 

or homeopath practicing in your area (yellow pages maybe?)



Linda 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: bruising

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:21:35 GMT



On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 16:55:17 -0700, lisaw <lisaw@surfsouth.com> wrote:



>I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

>Anybody ever heard of this?



Bruising can come from a deficiency of vitamin K. Following collected by a

friend that has the books:



These are from chapter 19 on Vitamin K in "Modern Nutrition, 8th edition"

edited by Maurice Shils. Actually it is hard to find quotes because it

develops the topic slowly.



"In the early 1930's, Dam and co-workers extended their work to show that

none of the established vitamins could prevent the hemmhoragic disease and

named the new vitamin "K" (for Koagulation)." (p. 342).



"Depression of the vitamin K-dependent coagulation factors is frequently

found in the malabsorption syndromes and in other gastrointestinal

disorders (e.g cystic fibrosis, sprue, celiac disease, ulcerative colitis,

regional ileitis, and short bowel syndrome). Severe abnormalities of

caogulation with extensive bleeding are not as common in these disorders as

in biliary obstruction, but they do occur with sufficient frequency to be a

concern of physicians dealing with these patients. .... Patients with

malabsorption should be treated with all of the fat-soluble vitamins.

Vitamin K should be given orally in doses of ... 1 to 2 mg per day or

parenterally in doses of .. 1 to 2 mg per week." (p. 352).



Looking in Rosenfeld's book "Symptoms," under Bruising, I do see this: "If

you've begun to bleed easily under the skin and also develop jaundice, it's

probably due to liver disease - the liver is not making enough vitamin K to

clot your blood properly." 



Vitamin C deficiency could certainly be a cause of bruising as I see that

"the true hallmark of scurvy in the adult is perifollicular hemorrhages and

perifollicular hyperkeratosis, most common on the anterior aspect of the

thorax, forearms, thighs and legs and on the anterior abdominal walls."

(Shils, p. 915). There is a photo there of someones legs covered with

little bruises.



Here are some sources of K from: jb_ferguson@pnl.gov (J. Bryan Ferguson)



1. Kale

2. Parsley

3. Natto (A Japanese food stuff)

4. Spinach

5. Turnips

6. Broccoli

7. Other green vegetables

8. Lentils

9. Garbanzo Beans

10. Soy beans

11. Soy bean oil

12. Liver (Yeech!)



From: holly brewer, MS RD CD <mouse@mail.kdcol.com>



Vitamin K (mcg/100g = mcg/3.5oz)



egg (whole)         50 (this is about two large eggs)

soybean oil        540 (this is the highest of all the oils)

                       (1T oil = 15g)



beef liver         104

chicken liver       83



raw broccoli       132

green cabbage, raw 149

cauliflower, raw   191

dry garbanzo beans 264 (sprouted seeds seem to have much lower vit K

dry lentils        223    levels)



seaweed           1700

raw spinach        266  (100g would be 1 1/2 - 2C chopped)

raw turnip greens  650





Since this is not a common deficiency, it brings up the question of why

have you now become deficient in K? Gluten intolerance, aka celiac disease,

has vitamin K deficiency as a known symptom. More on that can be found at:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: bruising

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:04:20 GMT



In article <320A7E65.1B4B@surfsouth.com>, lisaw@surfsouth.com says...

>

>I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

>Anybody ever heard of this?

>

>Lisa



Yep -- it's a homeopathic remedy called Arnica.  It's derived from the herb 

of the same name.  It comes in salve form, for minor brusing, and tablets, 

for more severe injuries.  Most health food stores carry it.



Arnica is one of my "must-haves"!  It works wonders.  I fell down a flight 

of stairs in a rainstorm last summer -- needless to say, I was black and 

blue in any number of places.  I used arnica liberally, and my bruses 

stopped hurting and cleared right up.  



It's nothing short of wonderful, and should be in everyone's medicine 

cabnet.  It's safe for kids, too -- great for all those childhood bumps and 

bruses.  Just don't put the salve on broken skin.



Rima







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: bruising

From: lnrplxus@ripco.com (Dave)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:44:51 GMT



: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson) wrote:



: >In article <320A7E65.1B4B@surfsouth.com>, lisaw@surfsouth.com says...

: >>

: >>I heard of a medicine (herb?) that you can take that stops bruising.

: >>Anybody ever heard of this?

: >>

: >>Lisa



Homeopathic arnica montana gel (I buy ArniFlor (TM)).  For really bad

bruising (like from a car accident) you can also buy the internal

homeopathic remedies.  It's best when used not long after the bump or

trauma occurs.  They also make linements; I prefer the gel, b/c it 

stays on the bruise until it soaks in.  I don't think using the straight

herb is safe, though.  



I swear it works like magic on my extremely fair-skinned 20 month old

daughter (every little mark shows up on her).  She's had some nasty

bumps and spills, but since I found arnica gel she doesn't have any

bad looking bruises.  It says not to use it on broken skin, although I

have used it on minor scrapes (like a scraped knee) with no apparent

ill-effects.



It's only about $4 or 5 per tube; definitely worth it!!

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: What's wrong with my Aloe?

From: Starrz

Date: 8 Aug 1996 17:14:02 -0700



I bought myself a really plump and heathly aloe vera plant several

months ago.  I transplanted it about a week after getting it in some

regular potting soil.  The soil it was originally in was what looked

like to be ordinary dirt/sand.  Then the hot summer started and the

aloe began to look 'sick' -- it isn't plump anymore and it seems to be

dying.  Also,  I live in Phoenix and since it's very dry and hot here

I saturate the aloe with water everyday.  What I would like to know

is, is what's wrong with my alow due to the wrong soil or am I over

watering it?  The lady I bought it from said that aloe is fairly quick

to grow when taking cutting from the main plant.  I've found this not

to be true in my case.  Anyone with a green-thumb have any

suggestions?  Thanks in advance.



starrz@primenet.com

 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What's wrong with my Aloe?

From: Erma West <ewest@bledsoe.net>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 08:04:34 -0700



You should put more sand in you plant and not water it so much.  Let the 

plant almost dry out before adding any more water.

Erma





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What's wrong with my Aloe?

From: kcstarr@echo.sound.net (Starr)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:45:24 GMT



Starrz wrote:



>I bought myself a really plump and heathly aloe vera plant several

>months ago.  I transplanted it about a week after getting it in some

>regular potting soil.  The soil it was originally in was what looked

>like to be ordinary dirt/sand.  Then the hot summer started and the

>aloe began to look 'sick' -- it isn't plump anymore and it seems to be

>dying.  Also,  I live in Phoenix and since it's very dry and hot here

>I saturate the aloe with water everyday.  What I would like to know

>is, is what's wrong with my alow due to the wrong soil or am I over

>watering it?  The lady I bought it from said that aloe is fairly quick

>to grow when taking cutting from the main plant.  I've found this not

>to be true in my case.  Anyone with a green-thumb have any

>suggestions?  Thanks in advance.



You're overwatering it.  Add more sand, give it more sunlight and let

the soil be totally dry before watering it. (no more than once a week

or every 10 days).   Should plump it up in no time. They thrive when

you ignore them.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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Subject: Re: Anybody ever hear about this?

From: Ronald Seibold <cybold@rof.net>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 17:26:07 -0700



Donna Crowell wrote:

 

 In article <4taoio$pti@news.ld.centuryinter.net>, 

thatjoeguy@nortexinfo.net says...

 >

 >laura@isp.nwu.edu (Laura Bryannan) wrote:

 >

 >>In article <31F79C81.6138@beulahland.com>,

 >>   "John A. Burns" <john@beulahland.com> wrote:

 >>>Jean wrote:

 >>>>

 >>>> Hi,

 >>>>      Have any of you heard of a product called "super blue green

 >>>> algae"?

 >>>>      I came across this website about a week ago and was curious

 >>>> whether anybody ever tried this.

 >>>>

 >>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~gwi

 >>>> autoresponder that was mentioned:  <powerfood@mailback.com>

 >>>>

 >>>> Jean I have heard of one person whose doctor told him he had 

parasites from

 >>>eating the SuperBlue Green Algae.  Has anyone else had any problems 

with

 >>>this particular algae.  We have been eating it since Feb. with only 

good

 >>>results.

 >

 >>Any green food will be healthy and healing to the body.  I, 

personally,

 >>prefer wheatgrass over algae, however.  Most of the companies I've run

 >>into selling SuperBlue Green Algae are organized as pyramids like 

Amway.

 >>This, in an of itself, bothers me.  I buy my wheatgrass directly from

 >>Pines International in Kansas and don't have to deal with salespeople

 >>trying to recruit me into a "great way to make money."

 >

 >>laura





Pines is an excellent company with more than twenty years experience.  

Pines direct cuts and quickly harvests (at low temperatures) wheat grass, 

barley grass grown through the full winter cycle.  They are harvested at 

the "jointing stage," which has been clearly shown to result in very high 

levels of nutrients.  



Some other wheat grass and barley grass products are cut long past the 

jointing stage and are dried like hay (i.e. left to dry in the sun for 

several days).  Others "stretch" their product with maltodextrin, brown 

rice and other flavors and fillers.  Pines is grown pesticide and 

herbicide free the way nature intended.  It is the cleanest and best 

choice for a green food supplement.  Pines:  <http://www.wheatgrass.com>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.healing.flower-essence,alt.health,alt.health.ayurveda,alt.health.barleygreen,alt.health.oxygen-therapy,misc.health.alternative,sci.life-extension

Subject: Anybody ever hear about this?

From: Richard.Smith@syrundry.gigo.com (Richard Smith)

Date: 09 Aug 96 19:25:50



  };> herbalnet@mymail.net wrote in a message to All: <:(



hm> The company I work with sells a product called ChloroPlasma

hm> - which  contains pure, uncontaminated, saltwater Blue-green

hm> Algae in a base of vegetable oil and silica.



Vegetable oil and SAND?



hm> This Algae

hm> (ten times the amount found in Alfalfa) contains high



Ten times the amount of WHAT?  Ten times the amount of alfalfa found in

alfalfa?  Ten times the algae found in alfalfa?  Ten times the WHAT found in

alflafa?



 To plan, will, and NOT DO is will-depleting,



  Richard

  Smith

--

: Fidonet:  Richard Smith 1:203/9046  .. speaking for only myself.

: Internet: Richard.Smith@syrundry.gigo.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.aromatherapy,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.healing.flower-essence,alt.health,alt.health.ayurveda,alt.health.barleygreen,alt.health.oxygen-therapy,misc.health.alternative,sci.life-extension

Subject: Re: Anybody ever hear about this?

From: kefoster@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Kevin Foster)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 03:53:59 GMT



In article <4ughgo$3j8@duey.gte.net>, herbalnet@mymail.net says...

>

>The company I work with sells a product called ChloroPlasma - which 

>contains pure, uncontaminated, saltwater Blue-green Algae in a

>base of vegetable oil and silica.  This Algae (ten times the

>amount found in Alfalfa) contains high amounts of minerals, vitamins,

>and Beta Carotene, amino acids, iron, Vitamin B-12, nucleic acids

>(RNA and DNA) and chlorophyll.

>

>According to the historical uses/notes:

>ChloroPlasma enhances the body's immune system, increases energy, 

>helps reduce cancer tumors, effectively combats viral infections,

>perhaps useful in treating AIDS.  (Note:  This product cannot

>be taken by those with multiple sclerosis.  ChloroPlasma increases

>the Alpha & Beta Interferon which causes increases in incidences

>of attacks.)

>This information from "Herbs in Your Life"  1996 Edition, by James C. 

Adams

>B.S., M.Ed., Ed.S.

>

>Hope this helps.  

>Julie





Does excess super blue-green algae have any adverse effects on liver

function? Just a question you mat want to look into before destoying

a vital organ.



Kevin











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal cider vinegar

From: Jodi <jo.ferri@sympatico.ca>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 01:51:16 GMT





When I was young my mother would make a pleasant sore throat remedy with 

cidre vinegar and honey.  Now I'm thinking that you might be able to make 

it more effective by making an herb vinegar out of it, maybe with sage or 

echinacea.  I figure it would keep well through the winter and children 

might find it more palatable than tea. Has anyone tried this or does 

anyone have any opinions on how effective this would be as a herbal 

remedy?  



Thanks,



Jodi





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal cider vinegar

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:49:23 GMT



You would probably be better off making a tincture or an infusion: the 

vinegar would certainly change the properties of the herb you are 

trying to preserve. While that's fine if it's flavored vinegar you 

want for your salad dressings (e.g. basil or raspberry), it's a little 

problematic when it's the healing properties of the herb that you are 

trying to extract. Cider vinegar in and of itself is healing: it's 

made from apples that are mashed, juiced, then fermented and allowed 

to go "bad", i.e. get past the cider stage and into the "sour" vinegar 

stage. It's not made by mashing apples and vinegar together.



Tinctures are made with food-grade alcohol (I suppose you could use 

vodka), and used by the drop. They are quite powerful, and you should 

carefully research the herb and the process before making a tincture 

so you can get dosages right.



Infusions are teas: you just pour boiling water over the herb and let 

it steep. You could probably freeze it to preserve it, however, there 

is some disagreement within the herbalist community as to whether or 

not freezing affects the potency of the infusion. Myself, I think if 

you have questions about the potency, just drink twice as much!! 



No matter what you choose to do, remember that herbs like echinacea 

taste really bad, especially to kids. I use tinctures in orange juice, 

it's a pretty effective neutralizer. They're usually comatose in the 

mornings anyway, and by now they prolly think that's how orange juice 

is *supposed* to taste!!!





Good luck, good for you for trying!



Linda









In article <4ue5ik$4mr@news1.sympatico.ca>,

   Jodi <jo.ferri@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>

>When I was young my mother would make a pleasant sore throat remedy 

with 

>cidre vinegar and honey.  Now I'm thinking that you might be able to 

make 

>it more effective by making an herb vinegar out of it, maybe with 

sage or 

>echinacea.  I figure it would keep well through the winter and 

children 

>might find it more palatable than tea. Has anyone tried this or does 

>anyone have any opinions on how effective this would be as a herbal 

>remedy?  





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: MARSHMALLOW ROOTS

From: "Jane E. Surmi" <jsurmi@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 18:52:24 -0700



I am interested in the true marshmallow plant.  I am curious about the 

similarity of this term to the name of the sweet confection we buy in a 

bag at the grocery store.  Are they connected?  If so, how, and if how, 

is there a recipe to extract what ever it is in the plant that would be 

similar to the sweet?  Also, where would I get some of this mallow?

My E-Mail is:  jsurmi@ix.netcom.com.

Thanks much. jes



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: MARSHMALLOW ROOTS

From: Bob Gale <rhgale@courant.infi.net>

Date: 9 Aug 1996 15:16:06 GMT



The confection was originally developed from the flour made of the plants 

roots. It grows wild in new england and elsewhere in wet (marsh) areas 

with a pretty yellow bloom. Processing was important but I lack info on 

this.

"Jane E. Surmi" <jsurmi@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I am interested in the true marshmallow plant.  I am curious about the 

>similarity of this term to the name of the sweet confection we buy in a 

>bag at the grocery store.  Are they connected?  If so, how, and if how, 

>is there a recipe to extract what ever it is in the plant that would be 

>similar to the sweet?  Also, where would I get some of this mallow?

>My E-Mail is:  jsurmi@ix.netcom.com.

>Thanks much. jes







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: MARSHMALLOW ROOTS

From: AW@pcd.net (AW)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 22:29:16 GMT



"Jane E. Surmi" <jsurmi@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



>I am interested in the true marshmallow plant.  I am curious about the 

>similarity of this term to the name of the sweet confection we buy in a 

>bag at the grocery store.  Are they connected?  If so, how, and if how, 

>is there a recipe to extract what ever it is in the plant that would be 

>similar to the sweet?  Also, where would I get some of this mallow?

>My E-Mail is:  jsurmi@ix.netcom.com.

>Thanks much. jes



Try Nature's Herb Company in San Francisco, AKA The San

Francisco Herb Company.    I have their catalogue around

here somewhere, but obviously misplaced it in one of my

misguided efforts to reduce the clutter on my desk!



In any case, they should be listed through telephone

information.  



Jeri Lee







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Valerian root

From: kaisteph@aol.com (KaiSteph)

Date: 8 Aug 1996 22:12:35 -0400



Valerian root is listed as an ingredient in some homeopathic pills my

Chiropractor gave me for a stiff neck.  But in the herb store, Valerian is

mark "for external use only".  Can anyone give me more info?  Is it safe

to injest?



Thanks



:)Steph

KaiSteph@aol.com



KaiSteph@aol.com

Chief Bounty Paper Towel Supplier for the SJD KAHB, Co-Editor of "Smokin'

Joe's Cafe"



"Busy?  I've just spent 4 hours burying the cat...."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Valerian root

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:55:46 GMT



Valerian has been used for centuries for it's sedative, relaxing 

effect: combatting tension, insomnia, "nerves", etc. I have no clue 

why your herb store would list it as external use only: I've never 

heard of or seen any product that uses valerian EXternally, they all 

are for INternal use. You need to be careful with it, it's pretty 

powerful, but in homeopathic dosages and taken under a homeopath's 

direction, it's perfectly safe.



Maybe you should ask them? After you get their answer, ask your 

homeopath...I'd trust him/her a whole lot more than the owner of the 

herb store.



Linda





In article <4ue6qj$1pq@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

   kaisteph@aol.com (KaiSteph) wrote:

>Valerian root is listed as an ingredient in some homeopathic pills my

>Chiropractor gave me for a stiff neck.  But in the herb store, 

Valerian is

>mark "for external use only".  Can anyone give me more info?  Is it 

safe

>to injest?

>

>Thanks

>

>:)Steph

>KaiSteph@aol.com

>

>KaiSteph@aol.com

>Chief Bounty Paper Towel Supplier for the SJD KAHB, Co-Editor of 

"Smokin'

>Joe's Cafe"

>

>"Busy?  I've just spent 4 hours burying the cat...."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Valerian root

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 19:57:18 GMT



I'm very surprised that valerian is listed as "external use only" at your 

herb store -- the heath food store where I work has dozens of products with 

valerian, all intended to be taken internally!



I take a combination formula of valerian and several other nervine 

(relaxing) herbs, and have never had the slightest problem.  It is good for 

relaxing muscles... probably why your chiropractor has you taking it.



  -- Rima







In article <4ue6qj$1pq@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kaisteph@aol.com says...

>

>Valerian root is listed as an ingredient in some homeopathic pills my

>Chiropractor gave me for a stiff neck.  But in the herb store, Valerian is

>mark "for external use only".  Can anyone give me more info?  Is it safe

>to injest?

>

>Thanks

>

>:)Steph

>KaiSteph@aol.com

>

>KaiSteph@aol.com

>Chief Bounty Paper Towel Supplier for the SJD KAHB, Co-Editor of "Smokin'

>Joe's Cafe"

>

>"Busy?  I've just spent 4 hours burying the cat...."





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Vietnamese Cilantro

From: norajones@gnn.com (Nora Jones)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 07:08:04



Last spring I bought a plant called "Vietnamese Cilantro" at an 

herb fair. It is not related to the typical cilantro in the carrot 

family but smells and tastes remarkably like it. I have searched 

print and web sources and have not been able to identify the plant 

or find out about its edibility or other uses. The plant has 

opposite, lance-shaped leaves on reddish stems. The leaf bases are 

swollen, as in the smartweeds (polygonaceae). An oriental Market 

here in Tulsa sells cut stems in the produce section but they can't 

tell me what it is. Can anyone help?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Vietnamese Cilantro

From: rastapoo@mailhost.winnet.net (Rastapoodle)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:46:46 GMT



norajones@gnn.com (Nora Jones) wrote:

>Last spring I bought a plant called "Vietnamese Cilantro" at an 

>herb fair. It is not related to the typical cilantro in the carrot 

>family but smells and tastes remarkably like it. I have searched 

>print and web sources and have not been able to identify the plant 

>or find out about its edibility or other uses. The plant has 

>opposite, lance-shaped leaves on reddish stems. The leaf bases are 

>swollen, as in the smartweeds (polygonaceae). An oriental Market 

>here in Tulsa sells cut stems in the produce section but they can't 

>tell me what it is. Can anyone help?



The plant is a Polygonum, P. odoratum.  It is *not* a cilantro, or even a relative of it,

and I am mystified as to why that name persists.  It can be used much like cilantro,

however, and I love its scent and flavor.  It likes partial shade and lots of water, so a

spot under a drippy faucet would be perfect.  I'm sad because I can't find it here in

South Florida.



                        One Love, Always.... Anya

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Herbal testosterone Booster ?

From: byounger@whale.st.usm.edu (Bernard Younger)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 05:18:24 GMT



Benny Hill (an482761@anon.penet.fi) wrote:

: On 27 Jul 1996 01:48:41 GMT, stefanid@ix.netcom.com(Don J Stefani)

: wrote:

: >I was wondering if anyone had any information on an herb or combination

: >of herbs to increase the testosterone created by a man. 

: >I'm curious, thanks...........................DJS

: 

: 

: Yohimbie its in health food stores.

: 

: Why not just go right for the testosterone?

: 



   Yohimbe does not affect testosterone levels.  It contains the chemical

yohimbine which is an alpha2 adrenergic antagonist.  



Bernie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Non-chemical flea conrtrol

From: JBaker <jbaker@inreach.com>

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 22:41:11 -0700



We vacuum every day and haven't seen a flea in months.  It works!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Non-chemical flea conrtrol

From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 00:39:16 GMT



	I have two out-door going cats that I use a flea/fine tooth comb on.

I comb both in the morning for about five minutes. The fat pregnant ones get

caught in between the teeth. I then zippo them with my zippo lighter. The 

smaller ones usually get caught in the hair in the comb and I zippo them.

	I might get five new fleas a day from either one of the cats. I like

to comb out their hair to reduce hair balls anyway so I might as well get the

fleas too.

	I use to use collars and sprays and baths and they usually don't last

and who wants all those chemicals on your pet anyway. 

--

				EdPaolo

         	  	edpaolo@nile.intac.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Non-chemical flea conrtrol

From: McKinley Richard <alright@earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 16:24:40 +0000



Ed Paolo wrote:

> 

>         I have two out-door going cats that I use a flea/fine tooth comb on.

> I comb both in the morning for about five minutes. The fat pregnant ones get

> caught in between the teeth. I then zippo them with my zippo lighter. The

> smaller ones usually get caught in the hair in the comb and I zippo them.





as opposed to using yr zippo, you can dump the fleas in some sudsy 

water. i just flush them all down the toilet. i get about 15 to 20 

fleas off of EACH of my cats EACH day!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: hemorrhoids

From: JLB

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 14:15:27 GMT



On 26 Jul 1996 22:10:22 -0400, coag@aol.com (COAG) wrote:



>Can someone please send me some herbal remedies for hemorrhoids.  I

>developed them with my little girl and can't get rid of them!!!! Any

>serious info is appreciated.  Thanks SweetR.



There are some haemorrhoidal wipes available in the USA, even mail

order on the net.



look at http://members.aol.com./johnlbaker/witch_hazel/witch1.html









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: hemorrhoids

From: Darryl Bach <dbach@highlander.cbnet.ns.ca>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 09:53:31 -0300



JLB wrote:

> 

> On 26 Jul 1996 22:10:22 -0400, coag@aol.com (COAG) wrote:

> 

> >Can someone please send me some herbal remedies for hemorrhoids.  I

> >developed them with my little girl and can't get rid of them!!!! Any

> >serious info is appreciated.  Thanks SweetR.

> 

> There are some haemorrhoidal wipes available in the USA, even mail

> order on the net.

> 

> look at http://members.aol.com./johnlbaker/witch_hazel/witch1.html

I saw a message here from someone who had hemorrhoids and the person

said this cured them permanently. Eat at least 3 whole almonds a day,

preferably the kind from the health food store, no salt and no

preservatives. This person said they were very skeptical but tried it

and it cured them for good.

 Hope this helps.

Darryl



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: hemorrhoids

From: grabec@aol.com (GraBec)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 20:41:22 -0400



I too have been plagued with these critters for a long time and even

though I have found no permanet cure I have found a couple of things that

have been extremely helpful. One is always using "Tucks" or some

equivalent after eliminations. Then a product called Lantiseptic which is

a strong smelling, thick, heavy cream has been absolutely incredible for

these hemorrhoids and many, many other problems including sores, rashes,

etc etc etc. I have absolutely no stock in this company that makes it but

I will give you the toll free number. It is 1-800-241-6996. And, as I

said, I am not plugging sales, I just hope they are still in business as

this cream is a miracle for a lot of things. Good luck.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal Medicine - Schools

From: turnera@sover.net (Allison Turner)

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 09:55:15 -0500



In article <4u8i1f$iv0@hermes.oanet.com>, rhart@oanet.com wrote:



> Hi All

> 

> I'm posting this for a friend.

> 

> I am looking for schools that teach natural or

> herbal medicine. Please respond by email to

> 

> rhart@oanet.com

> 

> thx in advance

> 

> Robert Hart



I don't know what country you're in; here's some info from North America:



North East College of Healing Arts & Science (new this fall)

PO Box 250, Bellows Falls, VT 05101

(800) 784-7955 (this number will change at some point)



California School of Herbal Studies

Box 39, Forestville, CA  95436

(707) 887-7457 (I think)



There are probably several more I don't know about, plus many people who

teach intensives / do apprenticeships (courses which might be anywhere

from 10 to 200 hours, say).



There are also three accredited Naturopathic colleges in the US,

Bastyr, The National College of Naturopathic Medicine, and the Southwest

College of Naturopathic Medicine (I think those are the correct names).  I

don't have addresses or numbers with me, but if you want them, send me

e-mail.  Or do a web-search; I think they're all on the web.



In Canada there are probably more Naturopathic colleges.  There's also:

Wild Rose College of Natural Healing

302, 1220 Kensington Rd. N.W.

Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2N 3P5

(403) 270-0936



-Allison.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help Growing Ginkgo Biloba.

From: John Houghton <JOHN@hough.demon.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 19:55:09 GMT



Has anyone grown Ginkgo Biloba from seed.?

Early this year I planted some in pots. No sign of life yet.

I`ve tried freezing some seed before planting & filing the seed case

almost through. Am I missing something or is the seed no good.? Help.!

Thanks.

-- 

John Houghton.

john@hough.demon.co.uk





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help Growing Ginkgo Biloba.

From: vandy@avana.net (Vandy Terre)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:51:28 GMT



On Fri, 09 Aug 1996 19:55:09 GMT, John Houghton

<JOHN@hough.demon.co.uk> wrote:



>Has anyone grown Ginkgo Biloba from seed.?

>Early this year I planted some in pots. No sign of life yet.

>I`ve tried freezing some seed before planting & filing the seed case

>almost through. Am I missing something or is the seed no good.? Help.!

>Thanks.

>-- 

>John Houghton.

>john@hough.demon.co.uk

>

You may not have viable seed.



Are you sure you wish to grow this tree?  Are you aware that a ginkgo

tree will be either male or female, not both?  Are you aware that the

female trees produce a fruit that smells like dog dung?



If you really wish to grow these trees and have room for them, consult

a local botanical garden for help to grow in your area.



posted/ emailed





Any significantly advanced scam          vandy@avana.net 

is indistinguishable 

from religion.                           Georgia, USA





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help Growing Ginkgo Biloba.

From: rainfoot@someherb.com

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:11:59 -0700





are you aware how long these trees take to grow?? and the seed commonly takes

betw. 9 to 18 months just to germinate.

 

if you're on the east coast, i'd recommend buying the trees directly from an

accredited nursery...and even then, the biggest ones yule prolly find will only

be about 6' in height...and that means they're about 15 yrs. old!  and they're

quite expensive!  and if you're trying to propagate them, remember yule need

both a male and female tree.





**ONLY GOD CAN MAKE A TREE**



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Milk Thistle.Whole Plant Use.

From: John Houghton <JOHN@hough.demon.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 20:18:24 GMT



Can anyone help please.

This year I planted many Milk Thistle (silybum marianum) which have grown

like "Triffids" & I am starting to harvest the seeds, Painfully.

Is there a use for the vast amount of plant material left over apart from

compost,? My herb book only mentions seed use. Thanks.

-- 

John Houghton.

john@hough.demon.co.uk





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ginko question?

From: Darryl Bach <dbach@highlander.cbnet.ns.ca>

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 18:25:47 -0300



Hello :)

 Just was wondering if ginko will help to improve the memory? If anyone

has had noticed an increase in memory please let me know.

Thanks Darryl



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko question?

From: dstuart@clover.cleaf.com (David Stuart)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 12:26:36 GMT



Darryl,

I have used ginkgo biloba 24%, 30 days prior to major exams, and

retained more information, than I have without it's use.

I think it works as long as you expect to use it for at least a month

before, needing the memory boost.

David

"There are no strangers, just friends I haven't yet met!"





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko question?

From: troupin@netvision.net.il

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 18:01:52 PDT





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> From: Darryl Bach <dbach@highlander.cbnet.ns.ca>

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> Subject: Ginko question?

> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 18:25:47 -0300

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> Hello :)

>  Just was wondering if ginko will help to improve the memory? If anyone

> has had noticed an increase in memory please let me know.

> Thanks Darryl

Dear Darryl

I have been taking ginco for 4 years and it definetly helps the memory.my memory

improved immensely.I checked it to periods I stopped taking it.

shmaryah







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko question?

From: tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:06:14 GMT



troupin@netvision.net.il wrote:



>I have been taking ginco for 4 years and it definetly helps the memory.my memory

>improved immensely.I checked it to periods I stopped taking it.

>shmaryah



Unfortunately it  not improving your memory for your spelling of

"GINKO".   :)









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for alcohol abuse?

From: wormskull@aol.com (WormSkull)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 19:28:42 -0400



Are there any herbs which help reduce the craving for alcohol?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for alcohol abuse?

From: rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 18:09:12 GMT



WormSkull (wormskull@aol.com) wrote:

: Are there any herbs which help reduce the craving for alcohol?



Kudzu is supposed to, 2-5 grams decoction (tea) on am empty stomach.

Most heath food stores carry both pill form and tea.





here's what vitamin research product's 96 catalog says about it:



"Kudzu Extract" - 40% flavonglycosides



The active components of kudzu are isoflavones like daidzein.   In the

orient, kudzu has been used as a traditional treatment for alcoholism.

Recently, published research confirmed these traditional uses -- it was

shown in animal models of alcoholism, kudzu could reduce spontaneous

alcohol consumption and reduce peak alcohol concentrations.  



(I'm sure www.vrp.com could tell you more...and no, I don't work for them)



Good luck,



...Rodney



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for alcohol abuse?

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 16:12:58 EST



In article <4ul7k8$jak@daily-planet.execpc.com>, rreid@earth.execpc.com says...

>

>WormSkull (wormskull@aol.com) wrote:

>: Are there any herbs which help reduce the craving for alcohol?

>

>Kudzu is supposed to, 2-5 grams decoction (tea) on am empty stomach.

>Most heath food stores carry both pill form and tea.

>



The report on kudzu helping alcoholics was what prompted me to 

begin investigating alternative medicine in the first place.



I heard a report (in the mainstream media)

saying that kudzu was more effective, had less

side effects, and was much cheaper than the conventionally

prescribed drugs for the condition.  It also went on to 

say that the Chinese had used this for thousands of years.



Then I thought, "What the hell?!  Why don't we investigate

thousands-years old inexpensive treatments for conditions

when possible, ESPECIALLY when they are more effective!"



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for alcohol abuse?

From: jknapp@goodguy.goodnet.com (Jill Knapp)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 20:44:36 GMT



On the first day of Christmas, Rodney Reid (rreid@earth.execpc.com) wrote:

: WormSkull (wormskull@aol.com) wrote:

: : Are there any herbs which help reduce the craving for alcohol?

: 



Angelica Root is also helpful in developing a distaste for alcohol.  You

need to use it regularly.



j i   l      l



--

  If ignorance is bliss and patience is a virtue, you can have a pretty

            good life if you're stupid and willing to wait.

** Jill Knapp ** <jknapp@goodnet.com> ** former Evelyn ** vocal acrobat **



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for alcohol abuse?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 03:30:40 -0400



In article <4ughja$q6e@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wormskull@aol.com

(WormSkull) writes:



>Are there any herbs which help reduce the craving for alcohol?



The following are recommended by Elson Haas in his book "Staying Healthy

With Nutrition". This book has an excellent chapter on alcohol

detoxification, p 946 to 961, and I'd really recommending checking it of

your local library.



During early stages of withdrawal: chamomile, skullcap, or valerian root

(calms anxiety).  White willow bark, ginseng, cayenne and peppermint are

listed as secondary choices or ways to combat inflammation caused by

withdrawal. Haas also mentions L-glutamine (amino acid) as aiding in

reducing cravings.  High levels of antioxidants, light diet with lots of

liquids, avoiding refined sugars, and eating every few hours (small

meals).



Many other writers recommend milk thistle for liver detoxification.  The

active ingrediant is silymarin, which you can usually find in pill form in

most health food stores.  This is used in Germany as a regular part of the

treatment of alcoholics.



Hope this helps,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ** Excellent Books on Herbs  **

From: bgg@eden.com (The Book Garden Gallery)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 00:41:58 GMT



Hello!



We thought that the following might be of interest..



Gordon, Lesley. A COUNTRY HERBAL. 

Mayflower Books: NY, 1980, 1st American edition, 208 p. With

attractive decorated dust jacket. "...a comprehensive compendium of

useful plants and the legends around them."  Illustrated profusely

with b&w and color plates "taken from rare and ancient herbals." A

beautiful reference book. As New  $35



Hogner, Dorothy C. HERBS FROM THE GARDEN TO THE TABLE. 

Oxford University Press: New York, 1953, Book Club ed., 236 p. Illus

by Nils Hogner. Both d.j. and book Fine   $8



Huson, Paul. MASTERING HERBALISM.

"A Practical Guide." Stein & Day: New York, 1974, 371 p. illus. by

author. With d.j. (very good condition), cracked rear hinge. Fair -

Good $7



Webster, Helen Noyes. HERBS. HOW TO GROW THEM AND HOW TO USE THEM.

Hale, Cushman and Flint: 1939, 2nd printing, 160 pages. Illus. Some

foxing to text, soiling to spine. Solid, tight hinges. Good to VG $12



Hersey, Jean. COOKING WITH HERBS. 

Scribner's Son: New York, 1972, 115 pages. with d.j. (lightly stained,

small tear) o/w Fine $8



O'Brien Marian Maeve. THE BIBLE HERB BOOK.

 Bethany Press: St. Louis, 1960, 2nd printing, paperback, 113 pages.

Slight wear to cover o/w VG $5



To reserve, please email, phone or fax. Thank you.



Cordially,



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ** Excellent Books on Herbs  **

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 04:16:11 GMT



On Sat, 10 Aug 1996 00:41:58 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs bgg@eden.com (The Book

Garden Gallery) wrote:



>Hello!

>

>We thought that the following might be of interest..

>

(snip)

... and then there's the list of good books on herbal medicine in the medicinal

herbfaq, and then there's the list of good books on culinary herbs on my website

(under neat stuff).



Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ear Problems

From: shandicor@aol.com (Shandicor)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:04:25 -0400



Hi-for the past few months, my mother's ears have felt clogged.  She has

tried several medications and nothing seems to help.  Can anyone suggest

something?



Thanks,



Shannon



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ear Problems

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:34:14 GMT



In article <4ugqn9$ln@newsbf02.news.aol.com> shandicor@aol.com (Shandicor) writes:



>Hi-for the past few months, my mother's ears have felt clogged.  She has

>tried several medications and nothing seems to help.  Can anyone suggest

>something?



>Thanks,



>Shannon





shannon,



Does this occur every year or in a particular season.  It may be that your 

mother has allergies and her passage that connects the ear to the pharnyx has 

become inflammed.  This does not allow the ears to equalize the pressure so it 

feels clogged.  That is only one possibility of many.  I would need to know 

more information before recommending any medications.  Try be more detailed.  

Does she experience pain?  Is there any wax build up?  Any post-nasal drip?  

Any vertigo or nausea feeling?  What other medicines does she take currently?  

if you want to talk more drop me a line.



vipor



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bulk Seaweed?

From: optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:07:06 -0400



I've purchased seaweed at my local health food store along with two

different grocery stores; wegmans and tops. I also use powdered kelp on a

lot of my food, it contains a healthy supply of trace minerals



Jeff Yentzer- Optahealth@aol.com

Optimum Health Newsletter

http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Diuretic - herbal

From: optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:07:18 -0400



Whatever you use as a diretic I would reccomend replacing minerals, as

many depart from your body as a result of using a diretic. Sea salt and

kelp can help replace trace minerals. A calcium/ magnesium supplement

would also be good.



Jeff Yentzer-  Optahealth@aol.com

Optimum Health Newsletter

http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: SINUS INFECTIONS

From: optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:07:26 -0400



There is a technique called the "yogic nasal wash" Mix lukewarm water with

a little bit of sea salt. I generally place this solution in a water

bottle (like the kind used for bicycles). Then I tip my head to the side,

insert the tip of the bottle in the upper nostril and squeeze a little

water out. Then try to blow the water out the other nostril. If the

sinuses are really plugged you won't be able to get much if any water out

the opposite nostril, just blow it out the side it went in on. This

sometimes causes a temporary headache which goes away quickly.



Jeff Yentzer-  Optahealth@aol.com

Optimum Health Newsletter

http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: SINUS INFECTIONS

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:36:44 GMT



In article <4ugqsu$p9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth) writes:



>There is a technique called the "yogic nasal wash" Mix lukewarm water with

>a little bit of sea salt. I generally place this solution in a water

>bottle (like the kind used for bicycles). Then I tip my head to the side,

>insert the tip of the bottle in the upper nostril and squeeze a little

>water out. Then try to blow the water out the other nostril. If the

>sinuses are really plugged you won't be able to get much if any water out

>the opposite nostril, just blow it out the side it went in on. This

>sometimes causes a temporary headache which goes away quickly.



>Jeff Yentzer-  Optahealth@aol.com

>Optimum Health Newsletter

>http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm





Jeff,



You are fooling with danger.  It is possible that you could actually force the 

infected sputum into the sinus cavities in the bone and then into the brain.  

I know it may be rare, but has happened to people who blow their nose with 

exertion.



vipor



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: valerian root

From: optahealth@aol.com (Optahealth)

Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:07:42 -0400



In article <31F171DD.129B@pacificnet.net>, Martha Boufford

<isretred@pacificnet.net> writes:



>> can you give me any information on this root and what it might be used

>> for?  thank you.Hi:

>

>It is calming for all nervouse disorders, promotes sleep without the side



>effects of sleeping pills, helps with arthritis, cramps, headaches, 

>muscle spasms and in after pains in childbirth.  Good Health.

>Sincerely,  Martha

>

>





Valerian does indeed promote sleep and relaxation, However taking too much

before bed can cause a "hangover" effect the next day causing one to be

groggy.





Jeff Yentzer-  Optahealth@aol.com

Optimum Health Newsletter

http://members.aol.com/optahealth/optahlth.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tonic/energy herbs?

From: fod@netcom.com (Frank O'Donnell)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 05:05:10 GMT



Three months ago I gave up caffeine.  I didn't think of myself as 

a particularly heavy user -- sometimes a cup of coffee in the 

morning, sometimes not, usually one or two diet sodas or glasses 

of iced tea in the afternoon -- but I must have been habituated 

because the change had quite an effect.  After the well-

advertised headache which lasted a few days, I found that I was 

extremely sluggish, both mentally and physically, for a good 

month.



Eventually that haze lifted, and I'm feeling more generally 

alert.  However, I still have sluggish moments, particularly in 

the early afternoon.  Although I get light exercise in the form 

of substantial walking, I suspect that I need to start a program 

of more vigorous aerobic exercise.



At the same time, I wonder if there are any herbs I might try 

that could have a general tonic or energy-lending effect.  I 

decidedly do _not_ want to use any stimulants (i.e. other sources 

of caffeine such as guarana, other stimulants like ephedrine from 

ma-huang, etc.).  Apart from stimulants per se, though, I wonder 

if there are tonics that could have a generally energizing 

effect.



Since quitting caffeine I've been trying ginseng (Siberian, 

American and Korean) in addition to gingko biloba and various 

supplements that are reputed to be either energizing (DLPA or 

L-tyrosine, for example) or "nootropic" (DMAE, etc.).  If these 

have had any effect it has been too subtle for me to identify, 

though I've been sticking most consistently with the ginseng and 

gingko.  I should add that I don't smoke, drink or use anything 

you would expect to have a depressant effect such as 

antihistamines.



If anyone has any ideas, I'd be very interested.  I'm only 

looking for generic herbs or supplements, though, not commercial 

product endorsements.  Thanks!



Frank O'Donnell

Los Angeles, CA

fod@netcom.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tonic/energy herbs?

From: sheila bolton <sbolton@frontiernet.net>

Date: 13 Aug 1996 03:42:49 GMT



Hi,



I'm not a doctor, but I just thought I'd ask if you've been tested for 

hypothyroidism?  Hypothyroidism causes you to be tired all the time.  I've 

noticed that many people with slow metabolism are especially drawn to 

caffeine and other stimulants, even cocaine.   



A large number of people(including myself) are either hyper or 

hypothyroid, many without even realizing it.  It seems to me that what 

youve been experiencing could be more than caffeine withdrawal.  A simple 

bloodtest could tell you.  If the test is positive, a pill taken once a 

day can correct the problem.



If your thyroid is not the problem, have you considered changing the fuel 

that you put into your body?  What you eat is very important-lots of high 

energy foods.



I hope I have been helpful.



                                      Sheila Bolton









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tonic/energy herbs?

From: khelmste@pluto.Clinch.EDU (Kristine Helmstetter)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:31:45 GMT



fod@netcom.com  writes:

> Three months ago I gave up caffeine.  I didn't think of myself as 

> a particularly heavy user -- sometimes a cup of coffee in the 

> morning, sometimes not, usually one or two diet sodas or glas

> 

> However, I still have sluggish moments, particularly in 

> the early afternoon. 



> gingko.  I should add that I don't smoke, drink or use anything 



Your comments are describing my spring and summer this year.  I

stopped all caffeine and felt great after the initial withdrawl,

but then I began to sleep all the time and was always

sluggish.  (my "friends" said I should start the caffine again,

NO WAY!) 

I met with my herbalist friend and discussed various

possiblities.  After ALSO consulting my doctor (very

homiopathicly [sp] tolerant) there was a general agreement that

after clearing out the caffine, all the damage tissue from its

long term use began to also clear out.  It was suggested that

and EB (Ebstein-Barr) virus had activated and since my immune

ssytem was weak due to years of stress and substances, it (EB)

gladly took up the slack. (EB is a virus most people get

exposed to, several times, during their life.  whether or not

you develop syptoms it ususally related to your immune

ssytem).  Since EB can't be easily tested from blood work, my

doc said it would be okay to go with the herbals (which I

ususally do anyway) Its hard to switch from 30years of

programing to run to the doctor instead of the garden).



> If anyone has any ideas, I'd be very interested. 



What does all my rambling end up with (besides a big file)?

I have had great results with an Una de Gato combo, along with

cleansing and acidoph. Also, detox vitms.



Read and explore as much herbal information as you can.  Don't

just grab at the first quick solution someone suggests, even my

own comments.  GOOD LUCK to you!!!



LadyRacc



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tonic/energy herbs?

From: bozoboy@circus.com (BoZoBoY)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:18:43 GMT



Don't neglect daily exercises to boost your energy level,

you will be amazed of the effect of this simple "overlooked" solution.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Hair

From: kel6978@singnet.com.sg (Kelvin Wei Chong)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:31:00 GMT



Do you guys know anything good product that can turn my dry and hard

hair to a soft and sliky one....

Thanks....







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hair

From: schro@pipeline.com

Date: 11 Aug 1996 16:51:15 GMT



In article <4uidg4$d3a@lantana.singnet.com.sg>, Kelvin Wei Chong writes: 

 

>Do you guys know anything good product that can turn my dry and hard 

>hair to a soft and sliky one.... 

>Thanks.... 

> 

 

A cheap and immediate help is a chamomile rinse. Just make a tea with loose

chamomile or cham tea bag (cover the mug and let it steep 'til cool), then

rinse with it after shampooing. If the tea is too strong, it can coat yr

hair and make it look stringy, but nothing beats it for giving shine and

softness. I just pour it on and don't rinse, it gives my hair much needed

body as well. A lemon juice or vinegar rinse also is nice if you don't have

a problem with oily hair. They correct the pH after shampooing and make

your hair shiny and soft. Rinse these two out of your hair, though. Not for

those with oily hair, though! A friend of mine tried the vinegar rinse

before work, and was very unhappy with me after she got trapped at her job

with (she says) her hair dripping oil. Oops. Always best to try new things

on the weekend, just in case. 

 

Laure



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hair

From: mpgwas@centuryinter.net

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 05:35:20 GMT



Clean out colon first with colonics and/or a good colon cleanser like Fiber four, 

start each day with fruit or fruit juice to clean colon.  Emphasize fruits and 

vegetables with a minimum of protein to alkalize body.  Counteract stress with 

brewers yeast, meditation, breaths and exercise, also for better circulation. 

Massage scalp regularly, too. Cut mucous-forming foods, especially milk. Good luck. 

 Maggie

 

> Do you guys know anything good product that can turn my dry and hard

> hair to a soft and sliky one....

> Thanks....

> 

> 







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hair

From: kira@sonic.net (Kira Ivory)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:58:03 GMT



A good basic healthy diet is No. one, but I know the kind of hair you

mean. If you want more hair, drink 2 cups a day of a product called

Healthy Hair and Nails tea by Crystal Satr. I know many people who have

used this to regrow hair, even bald people. It takes about two weeks if

you are on a good diet, for hair to stop falling out and start growing.

Many years ago I had lost about 1/3 of my hair over an extended period

of time due to several factors. It grew back over a six month period. If

my hair starts to fall out at more than 50 hairs a day, I drink the tea

again. I notice results in 3 days, as far as stopping the fall-out.



I have had about 10,000 compliments on my hair, which can be dry and

scruffy if I don't use moisterizers. So, there are many on the market.

If you want organic, try Aubrey products, but when you put on

conditioner, make sure it is for dry hair, and leave it on. Do not rinse

it out. Period. I use a combination of Nexus and Joico. After shampooing

with maybe Rejuv-a-perm (I have curly hair), and rinsing well, I put on

about 1 teaspoon of Nexus Keraphix all over my hair. It is long and

thick. Then I add about 1/2 teaspoon of either Humectress or K-Pak to

just the back and the ends. Then towel pat, dry naturally, if I can.

Don't worry about letting it build up; you can use a double wash every

couple of weeks. It works. The cheap shampoos and cheap hair

conditioners are made for straight, oily hair, and they are junk.

Someday I will try to find adequate organic conditioners. They must be

out there.



I',m just sharing this in the spirit of sharing because several people

have answered my questions and I appreciate that so much.







mpgwas@centuryinter.net wrote:



>Clean out colon first with colonics and/or a good colon cleanser like Fiber four, 

>start each day with fruit or fruit juice to clean colon.  Emphasize fruits and 

>vegetables with a minimum of protein to alkalize body.  Counteract stress with 

>brewers yeast, meditation, breaths and exercise, also for better circulation. 

>Massage scalp regularly, too. Cut mucous-forming foods, especially milk. Good luck. 

> Maggie

> 

>> Do you guys know anything good product that can turn my dry and hard

>> hair to a soft and sliky one....

>> Thanks....

>> 

>> 

>

>



--

						Kira Ivory	

						kira@sonic.net

						http://www.sonic.net/~kira



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hair

From: lvg41472@aol.com (Lvg41472)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 20:11:50 -0400



I was wondering if anyone could help me with my thin, fine hair.  I am a

female in my mid 20s and my hair is falling out.  I never had a lot of

hair to begin with so needless to say...I don't have much hair to spare. 

If you can help, please email me at Lvg41472@aol.com.



Thanks!!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Dong Quai and pregnancy

From: cschulte@mail.ic.net (Colleen Gleason Schulte)

Date: 10 Aug 1996 15:49:07 GMT



I need some help sorting out some conflicting information.  



I am 34 weeks pregnant, with a very normal pregnancy, and I recently 

purchased an encapsulated herb combination made by Nature's Sunshine that 

is specifically formulated for use during the last five weeks of 

pregnancy.  The combination includes: black cohosh root, squaw vine herb, 

dong quai root, butcher's broom root, and red raspberry leaves.



I'm concerned because I've read in Susun Weed's book <Herbs for the 

Childbearing Year> that dong quai should not be used during pregnancy, and 

I wonder why an herbal combination for pregnancy would contain this herb! 



Is it all right to use in combination with other herbs?  Also, Weed says 

that black cohosh and squaqw vine should only be used during late 

pregnancy.  I'm quite a novice at herbal medicine, and I'd love some 

feedback on how to proceed in determining the safety of this herbal 

capsule.



You can respond to me directly at cschulte@mail.ic.net or via the list (I 

am not a subscriber as of yet.)



Thanks in advance . . . .





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs to help my puppy?

From: johnsonp@crosslink.net (The Lady Trailblazer)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:09:53 GMT



My "puppy" (a 100lb chow) is having a very bad reaction to fleas and

nothing the vet does helps him.  He whines a lot now cause he itches

and he has no hair left on his tail, the backs of his ears, and most

of his back is bald now.  He WAS a beautiful chow.  How can I make him

feel better?  Is there some herbal treatment?  I feel so bad for him! 





Lady Trailblazer

High Princess of the Cult of the Tracker

(Edgewater chapter)

Senior Knight of the Barstool



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to help my puppy?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 12 Aug 1996 15:12:55 GMT



the garlic, brewers yeast tablet really do help....and start givbing him 

Linatone, this will help the coat when it starts to grow back.....







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: rab2505@clearnet.net (Ruth Butters)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:49:46 GMT



Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

peptic)?



Thanks!



R.A. Butters



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:49:49 GMT



On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, rab2505@clearnet.net (Ruth Butters) wrote:



>Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

>peptic)?



Here is something that Dr. Joe Murray <Murray@INTMED-PO.INT-MED.UIOWA.EDU>

one of the leading US experts on celiac disease has to say about ulcers:



  Duodenal ulcers occur in the same area of the small intestine where 

  celiac damage occurs. This type of ulcer occurs more frequently in 

  untreated celiacs than in the general population. This may be because 

  the area is already damaged and more vulnerable to the bacteria that 

  is related to ulcers. Many patients with undiagnosed celiac disease 

  are incorrectly labeled as having peptic ulcer disease.



So, if you have undiagnosed celiac disease you could control the ulcers by

controlling the celiac disease. This is done with a gluten-free diet and no

meds. For more information on gluten intolerance this page points to all

Net resources:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:08:16 -0500



In article <320cf587.2898339@news2.microserve.com>, rab2505@clearnet.net

(Ruth Butters) wrote:



> Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

> peptic)?

> 

> Thanks!

> 

> R.A. Butters



Sippery Elm, is what I used when I get a flare up. I prepare it like a

soup and add honey to it. Capsules just take to long to work. It has the

smell of maple syrup but has no real taste. Add the honey. It seems to

soothe and coat from your throat to your stomach. Slowly drink as much of

a one cup batch of the slipprey elm tea/soup as you can. I haven't taken

any thing else for my ulcers in three years. I haven't had a flare up in

three years either. Good Luck.

Catherine

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: ljackson@uvvm.uvic.ca (L Jackson)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:00:36 -0800



I haven't done this before.  Anyway, what really helped me was Royal

Jelly.  You can get it at health food stores, or chinese herbalists, where

it's cheaper.  Good luck.  





In article <tm-1208962108160001@pm10_13.digital.net>, tm@digital.net wrote:



> In article <320cf587.2898339@news2.microserve.com>, rab2505@clearnet.net

> (Ruth Butters) wrote:

> 

> > Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

> > peptic)?

> > 

> > Thanks!

> > 

> > R.A. Butters

> 

> Sippery Elm, is what I used when I get a flare up. I prepare it like a

> soup and add honey to it. Capsules just take to long to work. It has the

> smell of maple syrup but has no real taste. Add the honey. It seems to

> soothe and coat from your throat to your stomach. Slowly drink as much of

> a one cup batch of the slipprey elm tea/soup as you can. I haven't taken

> any thing else for my ulcers in three years. I haven't had a flare up in

> three years either. Good Luck.

> Catherine

> Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

> 407-729-0104

> tm@digital.net

> 

> -- 

> Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

> 407-729-0104

> tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: asolovyo@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (ariadna a solovyova)

Date: 24 Aug 96 19:04:33 GMT



I found something in MedLine that cured my duodenal ulcer. Before that, I

had tried Zantac, antibiotics with bismuth, licorice and other herbs.

Licorice was great, but did not prevent relapses, and did not *really*

cure: I was always tired, with this acidic taste in my mouth, unable to

digest certain foods, etc. I didn't try any drugs other than Zantac for

financial reasons and...well, I wanted to find a non-drug solution. And I

did! L-CYSTEINE (an amino acid). Sold at every health food store. Next

week after I started I felt I was myself again. I'm appending the MedLine

abstract that I was so lucky to stumble upon. There's A LOT more in

MedLine; just search for "cysteine" and "ulcer" or "sulfhydril" and

"ulcer". It is said to work for gastritis and ulcerative colitis as well,

and for all kinds of ulcers, not just peptic. The other agent mentioned is

Vitamin U. This is the stuff that makes cabbage juice effective (didn't do

it for me, for some reason :-(; most likely, I didn't take enough of it). 



More details: I started taking L-cysteine six months ago, having a relapse

with acute pain; I took two 500 mg caps twice a day, before meals, with 1

glass of water, for a month. I took 3 times as much vit.  C as calcium

ascorbate with it (it's recommended on the label as a preventative measure

for possible side effects which involve kidneys; you can learn more about

it in the library or the bookstore, or search MedLine for 

Cysteine-adverse-effects). 



Ari

asolovyo@indiana.edu



P. S. I'm not a doctor! Judge for yourself!



 MEDLINE EXPRESS (R) 1990-1994                  1 of 8

                                                                 Marked 

Record

TI: Sulphydryl-containing agents and the prevention of duodenal ulcer

relapse.

AU: Salim-AS

AD: University Department of Surgery, Medical City, Baghdad, Iraq.

SO: Pharmacology. 1993 May; 46(5): 281-8

ISSN: 0031-7012

PY: 1993

LA: ENGLISH

CP: SWITZERLAND



AB: This prospective randomized double-blind controlled study investigated

whether sulphydryl-containing agents protect against the recurrence of

duodenal ulceration. To this end, DL-cysteine (200 mg 4 times daily) and

DL-methionine-methyl sulphonium chloride (MMSC, 500 mg 4 times daily) were

administered orally. Three hundred and six consecutive smokers with

previous symptomatic endoscopy-proven duodenal ulceration which had been

shown endoscopically to have healed were randomized to receive for 1 year

either placebo, cimetidine 400 mg at bedtime, cysteine, or MMSC. In 221

patients evaluable for efficacy, the cumulative relapse rate at 1 year

was:  placebo 64%, cimetidine 30%, cysteine 11% and MMSC 12%. Cimetidine

was significantly effective in preventing ulcer relapse (p < 0.01),

however cysteine and MMSC were more effective in this respect (p < 0.05).

In the patients who relapsed, ulcer recurrence tended to occur early on

placebo but to be evenly distributed over the year on active therapy. In

all the study groups, the relative frequency of symptomatic to silent

relapse was similar in the first and second halves of the year and was

comparable among these groups. These results show that 

sulphydryl-containing agents significantly reduce the recurrence rate of

duodenal ulceration. 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:06:33 GMT



In article <320cf587.2898339@news2.microserve.com>,

   rab2505@clearnet.net (Ruth Butters) wrote:

>Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

>peptic)?

>

>Thanks!

>

>R.A. Butters





Well, raw cabbage is an old remedy-if you have a juice extractor it's easy to 

make.Raw cabbage contains vitamin U and this is where the healing element 

comes from. I've seen people also recover nicely using demulcent and sedative 

herbs, such as slippery elm and catnip. 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs to cure ulcers??

From: Chaz  Kussoy <ckussoy@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu>

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 09:53:14 -0700





Hi.  Apparently the herb Cat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa) from Peru is 

supposed to help tremendously with ulcers.  I originally heard of it 

from my healthworker at a local holistic medical clinic.  She gave me an 

article from the Townsend Letter for Doctors (8-9/95) by Philip Steinberg 

which describes its various effects in more detail, including 

recommendations on therapeutic dosage.  I've seen recently that Philip 

Steinberg also has a newsletter about Cat's Claw and a website with more 

info:



Cat's Claw News

c/o Philip Steinberg

POB 1078

Washington, MO 63090



http://www.cats-claw.com



Good luck with your healing.







On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Ruth Butters wrote:



> Does anyone know of any herbs that are good for ulcers (duodenal or

> peptic)?

> 

> Thanks!

> 

> R.A. Butters

> 

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ya Gotta try this tea recipie :)

From: swift@crl.com (Scotty)

Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 23:57:27 GMT



If you happen to have some of these fresh herbs, then you

gotta try this tea recipie, it's delicious, and relaxing :)



Passion Flower Mint Julep



Ingredients,

     Passion Flower - 2 teaspoons dried, or 2 tablespoons

                      fresh, or 10 drops tincture

     Lemon Balm - 1 tablespoon fresh herb

     Mint - 3 heaping tablespoons of your favorite fresh

                      picked Mint

     Sweeten - Honey or Orange Marmalade to taste

     Lemon Twist - 1/3 fresh lemon 

     Spring Water - 12  ounces



Preparation,

     Bring water to a boil, add herbs and remove from heat,

     cover and steep for 10 minutes, strain, and sweeten with

     Honey or Orange Marmalade. Serve Hot, or refrigerate,

     then serve over ice with a twist of Lemon.. Yum! 



Don't Drive ;)







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ya Gotta try this tea recipie :)

From: Daphne M Norton <dmnorton@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

Date: 11 Aug 1996 15:02:58 GMT





> Passion Flower Mint Julep

> 

> Ingredients,

>      Passion Flower - 2 teaspoons dried, or 2 tablespoons

>                       fresh, or 10 drops tincture

>      Lemon Balm - 1 tablespoon fresh herb

>      Mint - 3 heaping tablespoons of your favorite fresh

>                       picked Mint

>      Sweeten - Honey or Orange Marmalade to taste

>      Lemon Twist - 1/3 fresh lemon 

>      Spring Water - 12  ounces





Where does one find passion flowers?  Mail order?  Could you list a 

source?





Thanks!!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ya Gotta try this tea recipie :)

From: swift@crl.com (Scotty)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 20:36:59 GMT



Daphne M Norton <dmnorton@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> shared:

>Where does one find passion flowers?  Mail order?  Could you list a 

>source?



>Thanks!!



Hey Daphine, I remember a company, Avata(sp) I think, that produces

about the widest selection of herbal teas, has Passion Flower tea. You

can find it, or tincure at most health food/herb stores in metro

areas. If you live in the southern U.S. from Texas to Florida, then it

just grows wild everywhere, and is known as "valium on a vine" by 

people who know, and Maypops, or Mayapples by others. It has fairly 

large 3 lobed leafs and a beautiful flower for which it's called

the "Purple Passion Flower" and a botanical name of Passiflora

incarnata. You should be able to find some good pictures of the

plant if you search Passion Flower or Passiflora incarnata on

http://www.opentext.com or www.altavista.com



Take care, Scotty





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ya Gotta try this tea recipie :)

From: vandy@avana.net (Vandy Terre)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:51:38 GMT



On 11 Aug 1996 15:02:58 GMT, Daphne M Norton

<dmnorton@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote:



>Where does one find passion flowers?  Mail order?  Could you list a 

>source?



Passion flowers are common garden plants sold through greenhouses in

the mid west and grow wild in the old south under the name of

'Maypops'.





Any significantly advanced scam          vandy@avana.net 

is indistinguishable 

from religion.                           Georgia, USA





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ya Gotta try this tea recipie :)

From: rainfoot@someherb.com

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 15:22:48 -0700





try logee's greenhouse in danielson, CT...they have the most expansive

collection of passiflora i've ever seen...and they GUARANTEE the plants

which is more than i can say for most local nurseries.





**ONLY GOD CAN MAKE A TREE**



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: saw palmetto

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 01:01:41 GMT



They are good for urinary tract infections.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Clover

From: jonis@ozemail.com.au (Jon Hale)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 06:36:48 GMT



Hello, 



I have a request from a friend of mine who has found a few four leaf

clovers in her garden along with some five leaf ones. She has asked me

what is the significance of the four leaf clover (we know that they

are supposedly lucky) and does the five leaf clover have any

significance. Can anyone answer this and do they know the origin of

the "lucky" four leaf clover?



Any help would be most appreciated.



Thanks

Jon.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Clover

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:34:10 GMT



Hi Jon

Herbal lore says:

The four leaf clover, if worn, helps one avoid military service. It

also protecs against madness, strengthens psychic powers, enables you

to detect the presence of spirits, and leads the wearer to gold, money

or treasures. If two people eat a four leaved clover together, mutual

love will result. Seven grains of wheat laid on a four leaf clover

enable one to see fairies. If you put a four leaf clover in your shoe

before going out you will increase your chances of meeting a rich new

love.

5 leaf clover:

The five leaf clover is powerful for attracting money, and should be

worn for this purpose.



Hope this helps

Carol

visit my web site for herbal info, books and herbal amulets

www.io.org/~shodan/



Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Insect repelent

From: Gina Brown <jpink@flash.net>

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:21:42 +0000



Everyone:



There is a great mosquito repellant that is all natural. It's actually a 

daily body lotion as well. The natural scent it has (smells like 

vanilla) repels mosquitos. I use it! Call 817-467-2269 to get some.



Gina



Bill Aspell wrote:

> 

> In article <31DDB7FC.5D13@teleport.com> Jim Furnash <jgf@teleport.com> writes:

> >Path: nntp.teleport.com!usenet

> >From: Jim Furnash <jgf@teleport.com>

> >Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

> >Subject: Insect repelent

> >Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 17:49:00 -0700

> >Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016

> >Lines: 2

> >Message-ID: <31DDB7FC.5D13@teleport.com>

> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx07-17.teleport.com

> >Mime-Version: 1.0

> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I)

> 

> >In view of the findings of how dangerous deet is to use, is there a good

> >replacement in the herb family that will repel inscets?

> 

> Check out the Sept-96 Backpacker magazine article titled

> Is the world's strongest bug repellent right for you? - The Last Word on Deet.

> It refers to Citronella oil as an alternative.  Also if you read the article

> you may reconsider using deet.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal Education

From: MPACORD@gnn.com (MICHAEL ACORD)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 16:56:52



I am an MD who treats a large number of patients with muskuloskeletal 

problems which are not surgical (no broken bones).  I am also an 

acupuncturist with fifteen years of experience, practicing mainly eEergetics. 

 I would like to become educated in the medicinal uses of herbal 

preparations, but I need suggestions as to how to begin.  I would appreciate 

any information from practising herbalists, or MD/DO's who practice herbal 

medicine.  I am particularly interested in getting started with simple 

approaches, and fill in the gaps as they occur.  However, I am not able to 

devote full time to the pursuit of an herbal training .

Michael P. Acord

mpacord @gnn.com

macord@kpscal.org





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Golden Seal

From: dojang@iag.net (K. Lynn)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:28:25 GMT



I am taking Echinacea/Golden Seal, for a cold symtom and am having a

minor mouth and lip irriation from it I believe. Has anyone ever heard

of this??? Help!!!





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Golden Seal

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 16:08:54 EST



In article <4ulc42$1jn@news.iag.net>, dojang@iag.net says...

>

>I am taking Echinacea/Golden Seal, for a cold symtom and am having a

>minor mouth and lip irriation from it I believe. Has anyone ever heard

>of this??? Help!!!



It sounds like cold sores related to your cold symptom and has

nothing to do with the herbs.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Golden Seal

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 13 Aug 1996 21:19:47 GMT



I have read that echinacea can cause your tongue to "tingle"





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 4 Year old Girl has Cancer,  Any Help?

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 11 Aug 1996 19:47:38 GMT



Dear Sean,



Essiac tea is a very good herbal formula for cancer.  Most health food 

stores can get it.  It's been known to cure cancer in many people.



Worth a shot.

Rima



In article <Edina1996Aug7.202005.17131@news3.idirect.com.compulink.com>, 

snowshoe@idirect.com says...

>

>        A good friend of mine has a 4 year old daughter who has beaten 2 

>attempts of brain cancer already.  The cancer has returned again, and all 

>normal medical options have already been used.  The child has been given 3 

>months to live, and the family is desperate to try to save her.

>

>Does anybody know of any types of herbs that may save this kid?

>

>Does anyone know of a Naturopathic doctor who has experience with these 

types 

>of illnesses?

>

>If so, PLEASE E-mail me A.S.A.P.

>

>The family lives near Toronto Canada.

>

>Thanks In Advance.....

>Sean

>

>           ____            ____

>       ---<____>       ---<____>               snowshoe

>                   ____            ____            @

>               ---<____>       ---<____>      idirect.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 4 Year old Girl has Cancer,  Any Help?

From: Greenrey <greenrey@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:01:05 -0700



Rima Olson wrote:

> 

> Dear Sean,

> 

> Essiac tea is a very good herbal formula for cancer.  Most health food

> stores can get it.  It's been known to cure cancer in many people.

> 

> Worth a shot.

> Rima





Dear Rima,



	I'm thrilled to see that you recommended essiac to him, and I 

have already given Sean the formula, but would you like it as well?  

Though it is true that most health food stores can get it, I do not put 

as much personal faith in the commercial formulas.  I do not feel that 

they are as effective, and in fact have met a number of herbalists who 

agree--beside which, buying the herbs in bulk and making the tea yourself 

is much more cost-effective!

My only concern in providing him with the true tea formula was the fact 

that the girl is 4 years old, and thus may be a difficult patient when it 

comes time to drink something she definitely won't find palatable.  

Though I also made him aware of the capsule versions of the tea 

available, as they might be easier to administer, I was wondering if you 

or any others out there would care to add your thoughts on how best to 

decide on method and dosage for a child.  I have only come across adults 

who've used it, and am uncertain if dosage should perhaps be less in the 

case of a child.

For any interested in a copy of the ingredients and preparation, you have 

only to eMail me, and I will send it out as soon as I get your letter.



Best wishes, 



Aaron



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 4 Year old Girl has Cancer,  Any Help?

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 19:38:05 -0500



In article <320FD3D1.303A@worldnet.att.net>, Greenrey

<greenrey@worldnet.att.net> wrote:



> Rima Olson wrote:

> > 

> > Dear Sean,

> > 

> > Essiac tea is a very good herbal formula for cancer.  Most health food

> > stores can get it.  It's been known to cure cancer in many people.

> > 

> > Worth a shot.

> > Rima

> 

> 

> Dear Rima,

> 

>         I'm thrilled to see that you recommended essiac to him, and I 

> have already given Sean the formula, but would you like it as well?  

> Though it is true that most health food stores can get it, I do not put 

> as much personal faith in the commercial formulas.  I do not feel that 

> they are as effective, and in fact have met a number of herbalists who 

> agree--beside which, buying the herbs in bulk and making the tea yourself 

> is much more cost-effective!

> My only concern in providing him with the true tea formula was the fact 

> that the girl is 4 years old, and thus may be a difficult patient when it 

> comes time to drink something she definitely won't find palatable.  

> Though I also made him aware of the capsule versions of the tea 

> available, as they might be easier to administer, I was wondering if you 

> or any others out there would care to add your thoughts on how best to 

> decide on method and dosage for a child.  I have only come across adults 

> who've used it, and am uncertain if dosage should perhaps be less in the 

> case of a child.

> For any interested in a copy of the ingredients and preparation, you have 

> only to eMail me, and I will send it out as soon as I get your letter.

> 

> Best wishes, 

> 

> Aaron



Dear Aaron,

      

      My name is Catherine and I own a Herbal mail-order business. I sell

Bulk Herbs and I do carry the herbs for essiac. I also have the

recommended dosages for adults, children and infants. I will tell you what

I tell my customers, I won't promote the essiac formula for the simple

fact that I know no one who has taken it. I know of alot of good herbs

that are being tested for cancer and will always suggest those. I also

believe in everyone having a choice to do as they please and I will help

them if I can. I just don't want to say something false. If these people

do want essiac I have the herbs and we do make the formula up for you. As

for giving it to a 4 year old good luck! According to the strict

instructions on preparing this tea and the fact that the herbs are roots

it is going to taste awful! As a mother of two children 6 and 10 giving

them my herbal medicines that I make is pretty tough. There is a way but I

am not sure if it will ruin this perticular formula. It specifically

states on the instructions how to prepare and take the tea with no changes

allowed so my suggestions to you might not help anyway but here they are:

You can pour the amount for the day in to some cranberry juice then make

popcicles and give the child a popcicle whenever they are suppose to get a

dose of the tea. My next trick of the trade is candy. You take cashew

butter or peanut butter or any butter made from seeds and nuts, then you

add honey, (if you are really interested in all this E-Mail me for exact

amounts) the dosage for the day some chocolate chips rasins and nuts then

refrigerate to chill. when it's chilled roll into balls enough to equal

the doses the child needs to take throughout the day. Once again good luck

and by the way the formula is 49.50 for the whole thing made up.



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 4 Year old Girl has Cancer,  Any Help?

From: seacher@ix.netcom.com(James)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 21:31:09 GMT



Suggestion - go to the health food store, read what the bottle says for

kids doses and then make your own and start with those guidelines ....



Thanks Jim



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ointment base

From: "Jack Hawthorne" <hawthorne@patrol.i-way.co.uk>

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:17:24 +0100



hello, i've just begun to make my own herbal preparations . but i'm having

lots of difficulty finding a solid base for ointment. i have tried a

mixture of veg fat, coconut butter,and almond oil but it separates and is

bitty. i know that wax will thicken but in what quantities can anyone

help? any recipes? thanks, sara hawthornexx





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ointment base

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:39:16 GMT



In <01bb87c2.1be1ab00$c9c081c2@hawthorne> "Jack Hawthorne"

<hawthorne@patrol.i-way.co.uk> writes: 

>

>hello, i've just begun to make my own herbal preparations . but i'm

>having lots of difficulty finding a solid base for ointment. i have

>tried a mixture of veg fat, coconut butter,and almond oil but it

>separates and is bitty. i know that wax will thicken but in what

>quantities can anyone help? any recipes? 



Beeswax, rather than common parafin us usually used. The amount varies

with the thickness you want and the material you are using it with.



James



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ointment base

From: Susan Canavan <jscanavan@earthlink.net>

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:48:59 -0700



James di Paulo wrote:

> 

> In <01bb87c2.1be1ab00$c9c081c2@hawthorne> "Jack Hawthorne"

> <hawthorne@patrol.i-way.co.uk> writes:

> >

> >hello, i've just begun to make my own herbal preparations . but i'm

> >having lots of difficulty finding a solid base for ointment. i have

> >tried a mixture of veg fat, coconut butter,and almond oil but it

> >separates and is bitty. i know that wax will thicken but in what

> >quantities can anyone help? any recipes?

> 

> Beeswax, rather than common parafin us usually used. The amount varies

> with the thickness you want and the material you are using it with.

> 

> JamesIf you will melt your beeswax and then pour it into an ice cube tray you will find that 

it is much easier to work with. After the wax has cooled, put the trays in the freezer  

and let them stay for a while to make the wax cubes easier to remove. You can then add 

the cubes a few at a time to your hot mixture until the consistency is what you want. 

Good Luck.--Susan



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ointment base

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:45:48 GMT



Mix a little beeswax with the coconut oil



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ointment base

From: email.naturesway@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:04:40 GMT



"Jack Hawthorne" <hawthorne@patrol.i-way.co.uk> wrote:



>hello, i've just begun to make my own herbal preparations . but i'm having

>lots of difficulty finding a solid base for ointment. i have tried a

>mixture of veg fat, coconut butter,and almond oil but it separates and is

>bitty. i know that wax will thicken but in what quantities can anyone

>help? any recipes? thanks, sara hawthornexx



try using vasaline for a base



here is recipe for tiger balm

TIGER BALM



One of the most popular recepis for muscle- head and

backache is that of Tigerbalm.



Tradition will have it that the Mongolian Horsemen from

Djengis Kahn, roaming the plains of central Europe, had a

very effective ointment against saddle and back ache. Part

of this ointment came from the Siberian Birch Tree.



A mixture was made out of lard, camphor and birch tree

oil. For ages this ointment was in use and got quite

famous.



The end of the last century many products were replaced by

synthetic components. The useful part of the birch oil,

methyl salycilate and from the camphor oil, the crystals,

were in synthetic form available. This made the ointment

cheap and within reach for everyone.



A Chinese merchant composed a mixture of methylsalycilate,

camphor crystals and petroleum jelly which he called

Tigerbalm. A became famous throughout the Orient and parts

of Europe under this name.



HOW TO MAKE IT.



FIRST WE MAKE THE OIL, YOU CAN USE IT PURE OR LATER ADD IT

TO PETROLEUM JELL (VASELINE) TO MAKE THE BALM.



                 TIGERBALM OIL -  NATURAL

                 -------------------------



Recipe 1                            Recipe 2



Wintergreen oil      45  ml       Peppermint oil     25 ml

Camphor oil          15  ml       Camphor oil       15 ml

Eucalyptuse oil      7  ml       Wintergreen oil   20 ml

Lavender Oil          5  ml       Lavender oil      15 ml

Peppermint oil         8  ml       Eucalyptus oil    15 ml

Almond oil           20  ml       Jojoba oil        10 ml





                    PARTLY NATURAL

                    --------------





Methyl salicylate       25  ml

Menthol Crystals         5  gram

Camphor Crystals        10  gram

Eucalyptus oil          10  ml

Lavender oil             5  ml

Parrafine oil           45  ml



 TIJGERBALM





To make tigerbalm take 100 gram Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline)

(acid free)and melt this by placing, for instance a glass

with Vaseline) in a pan hot water. The Vaseline will melt

quickly (or use the microwave).



Once melted place the glas in a pan cold water and as soon

as on the side of the glas the Vaseline hardens again, add

20 ml of your Tigerbalsum oil . Stir until cooled down. If

you like the balm to get a colour, ad a drop chlorophyll.



It is used by headaches, apply a little bit to the

forehead, by muscle pains and after insect bites.







ANDY & SHARON			NATURE'S WAY	

NATURAL PRODUCTS FOR EVERYDAY USE

LET US HELP YOU MAKE YOUR OWN COSMETICS 				 TEL/FAX (44) (0)116 224 9814



NATURAL REMEDIES FOR HEADPAIN & ACNE. 

visit us at http://www.ark.org/users/naturesway/home.htm 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ointment base

From: Jodi <jo.ferri@simcoe.net>

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:24:19 -0700



> "Jack Hawthorne" <hawthorne@patrol.i-way.co.uk> wrote:

> 

> >hello, i've just begun to make my own herbal preparations . but i'm having

> >lots of difficulty finding a solid base for ointment. i have tried a

> >mixture of veg fat, coconut butter,and almond oil but it separates and is

> >bitty. i know that wax will thicken but in what quantities can anyone

> >help? any recipes? thanks, sara hawthornexx

> 









The recipe I use for salves requires 1 part beeswax to 4 parts oil. 

It's always worked well for me.  



Jodi



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Organic Herb Growers

From: Hawaii Space Center <spazhwi@maui.net>

Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:41:37 GMT



We are looking for cut herbs suppliers

for a wholesale distributor.

Certified Organic growers; Please send

list and amount (in pounds) of cut herbs

and roots available. We need culinary and

medicinal herbs and will buy from small

farms as long as they use organic methods.

Thank you, Sam





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: need bottles

From: bm749@yfn.ysu.edu (Marian E. Sebastiano)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 05:01:00 GMT





I am seeking a wholesale supplier of glass bottles with corks,

I buy from several companies in California but the shipping is

so high to Ohio.  Any bottle companies East of the Mississippi?

Please E-mail your address to me!  Or snail mail a catalog

3642 Schotten Rd.

Hubbard, Ohio 44425

Thanks in advance.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Essential oils for the scalp

From: bm749@yfn.ysu.edu (Marian E. Sebastiano)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 05:04:23 GMT





My daughter has a terribly itchy scalp.  There is no flaking.

It looks like a heat rash on her neck and behind her ears.

She has worn a bathing cap several times a week for swim team, 

and of course has been in chlorinated water all summer!  What 

essential oil or herbal rinse would be helpful.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Essential oils for the scalp

From: g-guyon@staff.uiuc.edu (Denis Guyon)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 20:23:43 GMT



bm749@yfn.ysu.edu (Marian E. Sebastiano) writes:





>My daughter has a terribly itchy scalp.  There is no flaking.

>It looks like a heat rash on her neck and behind her ears.

>She has worn a bathing cap several times a week for swim team, 

>and of course has been in chlorinated water all summer!  What 

>essential oil or herbal rinse would be helpful.



Nexus Aloe-Rid gets rid of the greenish cloration from chlorine.

I don't know about the itching, though.



--

"But what ... is it good for?.

     --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM,

       1968, commenting on the microchip.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ayurvedic soap?

From: jungho@nai.net (jung yea oh)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 06:56:30 GMT



hallo-

has anybody tried ayurvedic soap around here? it's kind of expensive 

and i wonder if it's expensive. i have pretty nice skin but 

gets oily during the day and i don't like all those chemical

fresheners...can anybody recommend a good natural soap? i take taekwondo

and sweat a lot too, so would like to prevent bacteria from collecting

and all that nasty stuff...



again-i am not cured from digestive problems. has ANYBODY tried

SMooth move, or any senna/psyllium product and had trouble?

i am having very bad digestion and can't remember

the last time i felt normal....

s.o.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ayurvedic soap?

From: Mary-Margaret_Mastin@RedwoodFN.org (Mary-Margaret Mastin)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 17:01:16 GMT



AYURVEDA  BY DR. VASANT LAD IS A GREAT BOOK FOR LAY PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH AS

they endeavor to balance out problematic areas.  AYURVEDIC HEAling BY 

dR. DAviD frAwley IS ANOTHER WONDERFUL BOOK BUT A BIT HEFTIER AS A RESOURCE

BOOK.  LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS PERFECT HEALTH BY DEEPAK CHOPRA.

YOU'LL FIND MANY WAYS TO BALANCE YOUR HEALTH ISSUES OUT AND PERHAPS GAIN SOME

INSIGHT AS TO THEIR CAUSE AND ORIGIN.  GOOD LUCK AND ENJOY.

MARY-MARGARET 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ayurvedic soap?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 18:26:24 -0400



Ayurvedic Beauty Care by Melanie Sachs

Doesn't recommend using soap on the skin, but says that if you have to,

try:

1/2 Cup water or herbal tea

1-2 tbl of almond oil

5 drops essential oil (use what you like of lemon, orange, mint, basil,

juniper, lavender - but don't exceed 5 drops total)

1 cup pure, natural soap (unperfumed)



Mix together and use sparingly.  She also goes on to give a lot of

prefered cleansers based on the ayurvedic body types.  It's a fun book!



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA 98119



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: skin

From: pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M. McAvoy)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 18:18:04 GMT



Hi.



Does anyone know of any herbal remedies, or creams, etc... that are good

at clearing up scarring?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin

From: swade@mindspring.com (Swade)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 05:50:51 GMT



On 12 Aug 1996 18:18:04 GMT, pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M. McAvoy) wrote:



>Hi.

>

>Does anyone know of any herbal remedies, or creams, etc... that are good

>at clearing up scarring?

>

I've found Aloe and Vitamin E oil good ... if the scarring is

relatively fresh.  Massage either, or both, into the area with very

gentle circular motions.



Swade



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Available Herbal Listservs?

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:30:08 GMT



On 14 Jul 1996 19:13:56 -0500, in alt.folklore.herbs edells@omnifest.uwm.edu

(Edell M. Schaefer) wrote:



>Does anyone know of any lists for those interested in herbal remedies?  If so,

>how does one subscribe?



...check the medicinal herbfaq. It's got some 9 or so lists right now, with

outline and subscription information.



Have fun,

Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: puncture vine

From: carroll@nr.infi.net (carroll)

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:30:28 GMT



Hi I am trying to find a sourse for puncture vine aka goat head.  I

have not been able to find it any where.

The botanical name is tribulus terreses

any help is appreciated hugh

hugh@netmcr.com







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: puncture vine

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 08:56:02 -0700





>Hi I am trying to find a sourse for puncture vine aka goat head.  I

>have not been able to find it any where.

  It's a common weed ... try the treads of any child's bicycle tires

for the seeds.  I have never seen it for sale as a botanical, but it

grows well in vacant lots.



>The botanical name is tribulus terreses

>any help is appreciated hugh

>hugh@netmcr.com







Callie



Callie@writepage.com            | Captain, HTML Police

http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: scar tissue!

From: Dixie <johnsone@spot.Colorado.EDU>

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 16:04:50 -0600



Hi,



Can someone please e-mail me with any advice on getting rid of bad scar

tissue (from a car wreck) in my shoulders, which causes extreme pain &

head shaking?



Thank you so much!

Dixie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: scar tissue!

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 06:03:42 GMT



Hi Dixie

I would suggest getting some advice and treatment from a registered

physiotherapist. This is one of their specialty areas of treatment.

Hope this helps

Carol



Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: SRe: depression

From: climbnyc@aol.com (CLIMBNYC)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 22:12:22 -0400



St. John's Wort in tincture form is found to be uplifting and good for

depression.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Where to purchase Fresh herb Arnica Montana?

From: climbnyc@aol.com (CLIMBNYC)

Date: 12 Aug 1996 22:18:50 -0400



I am interested in finding fresh herb Arnica Montana, organically grown. 

Does anyone know of any suppliers?  Or even any private growers who could

part with some -- or perhaps any wildcrafters who have gathered some from

the mountains out West?  Please e-mail me at climbnyc@aol.com.  Thank you.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help with SO

From: sleipnir@northernnet.com (JL)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 02:37:38 GMT



Early last year my SO came down with some kind of sickness (the

doctors had no idea what was wrong with him) that left him in bed for

2 1/2 - 3 weeks straight.

His symptoms included:  A high temperature (above 103 for almost a

week and the rest of the time above 101).  His throat swelled up in

the back.  He had a white coating on his tounge.  Mulitple canker

sores in his mouth.  Troubles swallowing, eating and speaking.

Bleeding from his gums and the back ot his throat.

Ever since then he has had a reacurring problem with multiple canker

sores in his mouth and a white coating over his tounge that makes it

painful for him to eat, swallow, talk, and brush his teeth.



Anyone have any idea of what is causing this and what if anything we

can do to help/prevent it?





Thanks in advance!

--Jenny





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help with SO

From: swift@crl.com (Scotty)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 03:12:02 GMT



The first thing that comes to my mind is herpes simplex I. Onset

can cause flu like symptoms. The sores can be painfull and 

open. One thing about herpes is it is usally solitary sores, and

not multiples. There is another condition that is similar, and

believed to be caused by possibly a bacterial or viral infection, it's

calle stomatitus(sp) 



Either way, the next time he has a flair up, he should go right

to a good dermatologist. Heaven forbid he should have simplex II

in his mouth or throat!



sleipnir@northernnet.com (JL) shared:



>Early last year my SO came down with some kind of sickness (the

>doctors had no idea what was wrong with him) that left him in bed for

>2 1/2 - 3 weeks straight.

>His symptoms included:  A high temperature (above 103 for almost a

>week and the rest of the time above 101).  His throat swelled up in

>the back.  He had a white coating on his tounge.  Mulitple canker

>sores in his mouth.  Troubles swallowing, eating and speaking.

>Bleeding from his gums and the back ot his throat.

>Ever since then he has had a reacurring problem with multiple canker

>sores in his mouth and a white coating over his tounge that makes it

>painful for him to eat, swallow, talk, and brush his teeth.



>Anyone have any idea of what is causing this and what if anything we

>can do to help/prevent it?





>Thanks in advance!

>--Jenny









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs or diet to increase conception of girl?

From: millerst@cadvision.com (S.J.)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 04:52:18 GMT





I have two boys and am planning to have another baby. I would like to try and 

increase my chances of conceiving a girl but of course I would still be happy 

if I had another boy. 



I have ordered the new edition of the book Choosing the Sex of Your Baby and 

have even found a summary of the book on a web page.(this book seems to 

concentrate on ph of the vagina, sex positions, pre-ovulation schedules etc.)



What I would like to know is if anyone knows of any herbs to take or diets to 

use to increase my chances of conceiving a girl? For instance, relating to the 

book mentioned above, the more acidic your system apparently the higher the 

chances of having a girl. Anybody know anything about it?



Stacy





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: stop smoking

From: mpgwas@centuryinter.net

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 05:38:11 GMT



Does anyone know of herbs to help me stop smoking?   Margaret





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: stop smoking

From: sacharof@accessone.com

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:04:44 -0500





> Does anyone know of herbs to help me stop smoking?  



Try cannabis, licorice root (thats a good one - tastes sweet and you can

fiddle with it like a cigarette) calamus (sweet flag) ginger, ginseng,

etc..



good luck!

Sambo



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: stop smoking

From: griffith@kendaco.telebyte.com (Suzanne Griffith)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 03:24:32 GMT



try Alt.Support.Stop-Smoking - nice bunch of folks - Sambo's info also

good.





sacharof@accessone.com wrote:

>> Does anyone know of herbs to help me stop smoking?  



>Try cannabis, licorice root (thats a good one - tastes sweet and you can

>fiddle with it like a cigarette) calamus (sweet flag) ginger, ginseng,

>etc..



>good luck!

>Sambo







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help with making tinctures...

From: Joseph McCord <jmccord@phobos.oit.umass.edu>

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 23:16:55 -0700



I've recently begun making my own tinctures - which is simple enough

until it comes to pressing as much liquid as possible out of the herb

after steeping.  I'd like to find some sort of press to make this simple

and efficient, but I don't know where I would find one.  Any ideas,

anyone?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help with making tinctures...

From: dumic@swarthmore.edu (Mark J. Dumic)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:34:07 -0500



I usually make 1:5 extracts of dry herb using 4 oz of herb and 20 oz

alcohol/water in a quart size canning jar.  What works best for me is to

first filter everything through a #6 unbleached coffee filter inserted

into a large measuring cup or jar.  Once most of the liquid has filtered

through, I transfer the filter with remaining herb marc to on

old-fashioned potato masher.  You can usually pick these things up for

$8-$12 in an antique store that carries lots of kitchen utensils.  Its a

4" diameter steel basket with holes in it.  The basket is on a handle and

there is a press top that goes over the contents of the basket also with a

handle.  I put the filled coffee filter in the basket and fold over the

excess top of the filter to make a sealed packet of herb.  Insert the

press and squeeze the two handles together.  A couple of good hard

squeezes and you've removed most of the remaining extract.The raining herb

packet can be thrown on the compost heap...no mess, little fuss. 

Admittedly, you won't get the last few ml of liquid that you would get

with a huge, heavy, mechanical press.  



In article <32101DD7.3EC8@phobos.oit.umass.edu>,

jmccord@phobos.oit.umass.edu wrote:



> I've recently begun making my own tinctures - which is simple enough

> until it comes to pressing as much liquid as possible out of the herb

> after steeping.  I'd like to find some sort of press to make this simple

> and efficient, but I don't know where I would find one.  Any ideas,

> anyone?



-- 



--------------------------------------------------------------

Mark J. Dumic

Manager of Networking and Systems

Swarthmore College

500 College Avenue

Swarthmore, PA 19081

(610) 328-8511



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help with making tinctures...

From: tgreyzck@ix.netcom.com (G-Man)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:32:53 GMT



dumic@swarthmore.edu (Mark J. Dumic) wrote:



>I usually make 1:5 extracts of dry herb using 4 oz of herb and 20 oz

>alcohol/water in a quart size canning jar.  What works best for me is to

>first filter everything through a #6 unbleached coffee filter inserted

>into a large measuring cup or jar.  Once most of the liquid has filtered

>through, I transfer the filter with remaining herb marc to on

>old-fashioned potato masher.  You can usually pick these things up for

>$8-$12 in an antique store that carries lots of kitchen utensils.  Its a

>4" diameter steel basket with holes in it.  The basket is on a handle and

>there is a press top that goes over the contents of the basket also with a

>handle.  I put the filled coffee filter in the basket and fold over the

>excess top of the filter to make a sealed packet of herb.  Insert the

>press and squeeze the two handles together.  A couple of good hard

>squeezes and you've removed most of the remaining extract.The raining herb

>packet can be thrown on the compost heap...no mess, little fuss. 

>Admittedly, you won't get the last few ml of liquid that you would get

>with a huge, heavy, mechanical press.  



What you are describing sounds exactly like a Spatzle maker; I've got

one made by Casa Viva.  You should be able to find one in any well

stocked "gourmet" kitchen appliance store.  It looks rather like a

very large metal version of a kids Play-Doh factory.  In normal use,

you use it to press out Spatzle dough over a kettle of steaming water,

but it works admirably as a general purpose small-scale press.   I

have to admit, though, that I never thought of using it to press herbs

- thanks for the tip!  It should work well.



-- Terry Greyzck



tgreyzck@ix.netcom.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help with making tinctures...

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 21:53:58 EST





For about $10, I found a small coffee pitcher that has a stainless

mesh that is used to press out the grounds.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Info of Herbal Soup, Herbal Wine & Ginseng Wanted

From: info@herbalherbal.com

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 06:17:26 GMT





I am currently working on a Herbal web site.



I need more info about Ginseng, Herbal Wine, or Herbal Soup. Any

articles about great academic research, good personal experience, or

even just an opinion as a consumer will be appreciated. 



Please email to:   info@herbalherbal.com

or via our web:    http://www.herbalherbal.com



Thanks in advance.



Terry Wong





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Sciatic Nerve Problems

From: chiliast@ideasign.com (A.K. Pritchard)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:20:12 -0600



Any good treatments for chronic sciatic nerve problems ?



Thanks,



A.K. Pritchard



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sciatic Nerve Problems

From: linda@shakti.ucolick.org (The Princess Otter)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 21:44:59 GMT



A.K. Pritchard (chiliast@ideasign.com) wrote:

: Any good treatments for chronic sciatic nerve problems ?



Try the Sacrowedgy.  It's sounds funny but it has given me excellent

results for relief of lower back pain.  They claim it also is good

for sciatica.  They have a web page, just do a search on Sacrowedgy.



Princess Otter



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sciatic Nerve Problems

From: yaamaaha@aol.com (Yaamaaha)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 21:06:52 -0400



get thee to a good massage therapist and in leu of that try laying on the

floor with a tennis ball under your tush, roll it between your sacrum and

the head of your femur...releases the piriformis muscle which encircles

the sciatic nerve



Kat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sciatic Nerve Problems

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 15:44:25 GMT



In <chiliast-1308960920120001@pool12.ideasign.com>

chiliast@ideasign.com (A.K. Pritchard) writes: 

>

>Any good treatments for chronic sciatic nerve problems ?

>

>Thanks,

>

>A.K. Pritchard



Having suffered from this terribly a few years ago my BEST advice to

you is.....



CHIROPRACTOR!!CHIROPRACTOR!!CHIROPRACTOR!!CHIROPRACTOR!!



I couldn't walk for more than five minutes without pain shooting down

the backs of my legs. I couldn't stand for more than five minutes

without the same. Or bend over without the same....my lower back hurt

constantly, I was spending more time on the couch than enjoying my

normally active life. I began to get depressed because I couldn't DO

anything.



So my husband took me to his chiropractor. The doctor did x-rays,

pinpointed my problem and even the probable origins of it. A fall from

a horse at age 17, 2 pregnancies, a car accident, another injry of my

back.



He set up a course of treatment, I kept all the appointments and now

all the pain and suffering I went through with this is just a dull

memory. He also got rid of the headaches and neck pain I had been

dealing with which had also come as a result of the car accident.

(What I wouldn't give for one of his neck cracks now!! Let's see, what

is his number again?)



Chiropractors WORK!! I don't care what anyone says. He gave me my life

back, he helps my hard working husband keep at his trucking job by

working on his back 3 times a week if Steve can keep the appointments.

A Chiropractor gave my older brother back the 4 inches in height he had

lost following a back injury. His MD just threw muscle relaxers and

pain pills at him.



So get thee to a Chiropractor AT ONCE!!!



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sciatic Nerve Problems

From: kathyd@phoenix.net (Kathy Diemer)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:34:30 GMT



chiliast@ideasign.com (A.K. Pritchard) wrote:



>Any good treatments for chronic sciatic nerve problems ?



Many years ago, I knew a woman who did foot reflexology.  She said

that the heel is where the sciatic nerve can be accessed.  She showed

me how to massage the heel with intense pressure from the thumb.  And

it seemed to alleviate my sciatica.  It is possible that my problem

was not as bad as yours, so don't overlook other treatments suggested

here.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: oregon grape root

From: sacharof@accessone.com

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:34:43 -0500



Does anyone know when the best time to harvest oregon grape root?  This

plant seems to be everywhere here in Seattle.. Also, does anyone know the

cold hardiness of Chinese licorice plant (Glycyrrhiza uralensis)?



Peace,

Sambo

sacharof@accessone.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: Jason Woodrow <jason_woodrow@om.cv.hp.com>

Date: 13 Aug 1996 19:29:46 GMT



sacharof@accessone.com wrote:

>Does anyone know when the best time to harvest oregon grape root?  This

>plant seems to be everywhere here in Seattle.. Also, does anyone know the

>cold hardiness of Chinese licorice plant (Glycyrrhiza uralensis)?

>

>Peace,

>Sambo

>sacharof@accessone.com



Couldn't find info on the Oregon Grape harvest, but I found this regarding the

Licorice plant: "The plant succeeds most in a warm climate; not only can it not

endure severe freezing, but cool weather interferes with the formation of its

useful juice and renders it woody." "...harvesting occurs only in the autumn of

the fourth year."  -A Modern Herbal by M. Grieve (Dover Publications)



-Jason Woodrow





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: howieb@teleport.com (Howie Brounstein)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 08:19:23 GMT



In article <sacharof-1308961034430001@annex3-14.accessone.com>,

   sacharof@accessone.com wrote:



>Does anyone know when the best time to harvest oregon grape root?  This

>plant seems to be everywhere here in Seattle.. Also, does anyone know the

>cold hardiness of Chinese licorice plant (Glycyrrhiza uralensis)?

>

>Peace,

>Sambo

>sacharof@accessone.com



Anytime is passable, it's strongest when not in flower or fruit. If you 

harvest it during the rainy season (fall to winter), the replanted tops (with 

a few inches or more of root) will resprout the best.





Howie Brounstein

howieb@teleport.com

http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: lynnh@oberon.adsnet.net (Lynn Hutchins)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 01:18:06 GMT





>Does anyone know when the best time to harvest oregon grape root?



Do you mean it's edible?  I just wanted some to keep the mailman out

of the new flower bed.  What do you do with the root?



Lynn H



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: sven@xroads.com (Jeff van der Zweep)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 03:13:58 GMT



>Does anyone know when the best time to harvest oregon grape root?  This

>plant seems to be everywhere here in Seattle.. Also, does anyone know the

>cold hardiness of Chinese licorice plant (Glycyrrhiza uralensis)?



>Peace,

>Sambo

>sacharof@accessone.com



What are the uses for Oregon Grape root.  I thought that Oregon Grape

was mildly toxic.  (Could be that we just have a slightly different

subspecies here in Arizona, But I don't think so)



Jeff van der Zweep

sven@xroads.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: howieb@teleport.com (Howie Brounstein)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 02:07:51 GMT





Here's some stuff from another forum I wrote aboute Oregon grape root:







>  Nina Kuper   AboveView @ aol.com:

>Please explain why you suggest switching from Goldenseal, and could you

>provide more info. on the herbs that you suggest using as a replacement.



I have suggested replacing Goldenseal with Oregon Grape Root

(OG) for over a decade now. There are quite a few

reasons why I have done this. One reason is that Goldenseal is

 over harvested in the wild. As the years go by, this

reason becomes the most valid reason to change. Currently,

 the demand for Goldenseal appears to be outstripping

the supply, and the garden grown alternative crop is lagging way

 behind the demand.



Goldenseal is not yet endangered. Endangered is a legal word,

 meaning the plant may become extinct in the

foreseeable future. If Goldenseal were legally protected as federally

threatened or endangered, it would be illegal to

sell. Plants can receive state protection, but I don't know that

 Goldenseal has. State protection wouldn't stop the

herb trade though, as it only affects plants in that one state.

We need to be careful of the word endangered. Perhaps

if we did all the surveying and paperwork wild Goldenseal could

become listed as protected, but the process is

clogged with politics, and it would be unlikely to see and

protection in a timely manner. So let's say it's "in

danger."





What about  jsublett@nemonet.com?



> I am very lucky by having a pretty good supply of wild golden seal in

>the timber near by.



Jack is  making salve for his family from a nearby stand of Goldenseal,

what a lucky guy. Certainly he would never

harvest to much. Jack wants to be able to harvest

year after year, so that his family and their families will have

some as waves of seasons ripple by. He will protect that stand,

and adjust his harvesting according to the

population size year after year. Folks like him aren't

depleting the wild stands .... It's the national and international

use.





Oregon Grape Root is Berberis aquifolium (Low land species)

 or Berberis nervosa (mountain species) in Oregon.

Berberis repens grows a bit in Eastern Oregon, but is in s

mall amounts and grows in more fragile ecosystems, so I

don't pick it in Oregon ... although in the Rockies it grows in

the forest floor in non-fragile ecosystems. In those

places it could be harvested ecologically. Mister Moore has

 said that each Berberis has its own particular specific

indications, still there is greatly overlap in their general uses

 (indications). I use Berberis nervosa because I love

where it grows, the forest floor at low to middle elevations

in the Cascade Mountain Ranges of Oregon and

Washington.



Many folks use the name Mahonia instead of Berberis.

You'd think by now everyone would agree on one latin

name. That's why we have latin names. But this is not the case.

I heard that botanical texts use the term Berberis,

and horticultural texts use the term Mahonia. Well, if that's the

case, than the botanist's Berberis is the real name,

because botanists are real scientists and horticulturalists just garden.

Or should I say that the true name is

Mahonia, because horticulturalists do the real work with plants while

botanical folks are removed from reality like

most science, working in the herbarium with theories and clean

fingernails. This debate is endless, and an Oregon

Grape by any name still tastes just as bad as Goldenseal.





Berberis nervosa grows from thick horizontal roots (actually

 underground stems, rhizomes). When I harvest it, I

break the top portion with some rhizome, and replant. I do this

in the rainy seasons, and the forest duff is like a

perfect growing medium for the plants. Doing this for many years I have

 found that the plants regrow readily,

tagged plants showing an amazing ability to take hold and regrow,

 sometimes feet in one year. The rhizome left in

the ground, where the roots snap during the harvest, remain

the ground and resprout. Berberis is not in any danger

of extinction, and is one of the most common ground covers in its

ecosystem. In many places it is the dominant

shrub of the forest floor.



Berberis nervosa survives clearcuts and partial cuts, and

will disappear if you change the amount of moisture in the

system, being replaced by Salal (Gaultheria shallon) if the

system dries some, Sword Ferns (Polystichum munitum)

if the area becomes too wet. Drying sometime occurs from

logging, but succession eventually shows that the

Berberis returns as the forest canopy returns (less light,

more retained moisture). I believe Oregon Grape to be

completely ethical to harvest. Certainly, we I would hate to

see the world's supply of anything come from one

geographic area; this often causes extinction or complete

removal of a natural resource. However, if any plant was

to replace trees in the Economy of the Pacific Northwest,

Proper Oregon Grape Root harvesting would be a prime

candidate. Would this massive harvesting be done in an ecological

 way, or will greed show its ugly face, who can

say? There is no place for greed when harvesting plants.





Another reason to buy Oregon Grape Root is simple ... it's cheaper.

Assuming it is reasonably similar in uses, this

is reason enough to purchase it.





OG and Goldenseal have similar constituents. Berberis contains

 Berberine with some hydrastine; Goldenseal

contains hydrastine and berberine. It is not always easy to

reduce a whole plant to one or a few constituents, but for

this topic of conversation, I will. Berberine is a golden alkaloid

responsible for Goldenseal's and Oregon Grape's

color. Although I have no references, I am under the

assumption that at one time in the past, Goldenseal was cut

with OG by unethical folks looking to supplement their stocks.

 You'd have to test the herb for hydrastine to see if it

was truly Goldenseal, and even so, it wouldn't show up as

 adulterated, just low grade Goldenseal.



We could attribute much of Goldenseal's effects to berberine,

though certainly hydrastine plays a major role. I find

subjectively that OG has a more gentle action on the body.

Goldenseal feels harsh to me, with much more of a

chance of liver over stimulation for those with greatly damaged

livers. A large therapeutic dosage of Goldenseal

makes one feel drugged. A large therapeutic dosage of

Oregon Grape makes one feel exactly the opposite ...

complete undrugged. Of course this is all totally subjective,

but it's subjective observations of many students and

herb ingesters.



I feel that Oregon Grape and Goldenseal have essentially

the same medicinal uses.  Berberine is a clinically proven

antibacterial, useful against a wide variety of bacteria. OG

is a good first choice for any local or system wide

(systemic) bacterial infection.  (Earaches, staph, colds

and creeping crud).  Both herbs have liver stimulating

qualities Both can be used internally and externally.  Both

 herbs are bitters.  The majority of the uses are exactly

the same.  Check Michael Moore's specific indications through

the teaching manual section of his home page and

compare Hydrastis (Goldenseal) and Mahonia.  The overlap is

remarkable.  I'm not going to get into the uses of

Oregon Grape and Goldenseal in depth because we could fill

 pages with it, and it is not the point of this post.



I suggest starting with Oregon Grape, and if it doesn't work,

then switch to Goldenseal.  I find, however, that in

most cases if Oregon Grape doesn't work, than Goldenseal

won't work either.  In this case you would need to

switch to a completely different herb.  The only action Goldenseal

 possibly has that Oregon Grape doesn't is a

healing effect on external injuries like cuts.  Both herbs will

prevent infection as well as Neosporin, but Goldenseal

may directly promote healing more.



  Realistically, most people take Goldenseal not because it's

 the best herb for their problem.  They take it because it

is popular, their friends take it, or it's one of the few herbs

 that they know.  If you just have a cold and someone

recommends Goldenseal, Oregon Grape is one of the

 best replacements.



>However, I have not found it to have the same immune system

>effects as Golden Seal.



I would like to respond to this, but I'm not exactly sure what

immune system effects specifically you are referring

to.





Howie Brounstein

howieb@teleport.com

http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: oregon grape root

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 09:31:30 GMT



Thank you for your post on Oregon Grape root.  I believe Goldenseal is

being wildcrafted out of existance and that's very sad, especially

since OG is everywhere around here (Oregon) and easy to cultivate,

unlike Goldenseal.  I really think the word should get out on this.  



BTW, I say Mahonia!  Actually, I've always heard it called Mahonia

Aquafolia, although I know there are different species.  And I'm

neither a biologist nor a horticulturist!



In <4v0l5n$jk6@nadine.teleport.com> howieb@teleport.com (Howie

Brounstein) writes: 



>Here's some stuff from another forum I wrote aboute Oregon grape root:

>>  Nina Kuper   AboveView @ aol.com:

>>Please explain why you suggest switching from Goldenseal, and could

>>you provide more info. on the herbs that you suggest using as a

>>replacement.

>

>I have suggested replacing Goldenseal with Oregon Grape Root

>(OG) for over a decade now.  <snip> Currently,

> the demand for Goldenseal appears to be outstripping

>the supply, and the garden grown alternative crop is lagging way

> behind the demand.



<SNIP>



>I feel that Oregon Grape and Goldenseal have essentially

>the same medicinal uses.  The majority of the uses are exactly

>the same. <snip> Check Michael Moore's specific indications through

>the teaching manual section of his home page and

>compare Hydrastis (Goldenseal) and Mahonia.  The overlap is

>remarkable. 



<SNIP>



Michael Moore's homepage address is:

http://www.rt66.com/hrbmoore/HOMEPAGE/HomePage.html

It's very good, with images you can look at with Acrobat, lots of

articles, etc.  



>Howie Brounstein

>howieb@teleport.com

>http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html

>

>"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



(ps: I hope my snipping did not offend you--I believe I left the

intention intact)



Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herb Search & Find Site

From: tlmahan@aol.com (TLMahan)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 15:00:32 -0400



I am working on a web site that will allow users looking for an herb to

post a message (free) or browse herbal classifieds.  I hope to make this a

central place for herbalists to easily find resources or gather

information.



If anyone would like to e-mail me  with information on what they are

looking for, I will post the site on August 20.  Please include Herbal

Post in subject.



Thanks



Tracy Mahan

tlmahan@aol.com

Visit Health Trek's WWW site http://www.healthtrek.com for information

(on-line natural treatment library), homeopathics, herbals, nutritionals, 

and to have a confidential consultation with a Naturopathic Physician.  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Question Re: Chamomile hair rinse

From: johnna@unixg.ubc.ca (Miranda's Magic)

Date: 13 Aug 1996 19:55:12 GMT



My daughter's previously blond hair is now coming in a darker, 

nondescript brownish colour.  She really dislikes it, especially after 

being a blond since birth.  Since she's only 10 I don't want to let her 

use any permanent colours on it, or something like Sun-In.  We are 

wondering whether chamomile rinses will result in a permanent highlight 

or not.  We certainly don't want to have to reapply with every washing 

(that is to say that *I* don't want to!)  



We'd appreciate hearfing from anyone who has experience with this & can 

tell us more.  



Thanks



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: info source on herbal remedies

From: michael@equinox.net (Michael Melamerson)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 18:25:56 -0300



looking for a source of info on herbal remedies - one that will allow me

to match my maladies w/ appropriate herbal remedies....



Thanks

Mike



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Request - Creative Criticism on Web Page

From: swift@crl.com (Scotty)

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:59:31 GMT



If you have the chance please offer suggestions and corrections

concerning my Web Site on relaxing herbs, and teas. Suggestions for

herbs, and tea recipes not included are most welcome! 

 

I could also use some help with a name for my kitten, he's on the

web page to :)



http://www.crl.com/~swift/



Thanks, Scotty





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: Nikolai Faaland <NIKOLAI@NWLINK.COM>

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 17:26:30 -0700



hey y'all



I wonder if anybody can help me out on this.  I like smoking (as in, the 

action of doing it), but I want to be able to do it without the side-effects 

that you get from tobacco and mj.  Tobacco is fairly cheap, but is rather 

startlingly bad for you.  MJ is great fun, but expensive and I don't always 

want to get stoned when I smoke.



So my question is, are there any easily available smokeable herbs out there? 

 What I'd like is something that can be rolled into a cigarette, is not 

addictive, hopefully legal and therefore cheap, tastes good, and doesn't 

affect you in any significant way.  A THC-less pot would be perfect.  Tastes 

good, doesn't reek like tobacco, non-addictive, etc.



I've tried something called Kinick-kinick, and it fit the bill except it was 

kind of harsh.  Anybody have any ideas?



Thanks,



-- 

-Nikolai Faaland aka AuldAne

 nikolai@nwlink.com



"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste.

 I've been around for a long long year, stolen many a man's soul and faith.

 I was around when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain.

 Made damn sure that Pilate washed his hands, and sealed his fate.

 Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name!"



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: LH8 <lh8filx@earthlink.net>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:20:10 -0500



Yarrow, I believe, has been used as a marijuana alternative because it 

is not psychoactive.



In my travels on the web I came across the follwing site which has 

numerous, slightly psychoactive, smokable substances. I  have no 

experience with the service; just passing along some info.



http://www.lycaeum.org/%7Epsee/herb.html



LH8



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: shug <shug@sol.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:07:06 -0700



Nikolai Faaland wrote:

> 

> hey y'all

> 

> I wonder if anybody can help me out on this.  I like smoking (as in, the

> action of doing it), but I want to be able to do it without the side-effects

> that you get from tobacco and mj.  Tobacco is fairly cheap, but is rather

> startlingly bad for you.  MJ is great fun, but expensive and I don't always

> want to get stoned when I smoke.

> 

> So my question is, are there any easily available smokeable herbs out there?

>  What I'd like is something that can be rolled into a cigarette, is not

> addictive, hopefully legal and therefore cheap, tastes good, and doesn't

> affect you in any significant way.  A THC-less pot would be perfect.  Tastes

> good, doesn't reek like tobacco, non-addictive, etc.

> 

> I've tried something called Kinick-kinick, and it fit the bill except it was

> kind of harsh.  Anybody have any ideas?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> --

> -Nikolai Faaland aka AuldAne

>  nikolai@nwlink.com

> 

> "Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste.

>  I've been around for a long long year, stolen many a man's soul and faith.

>  I was around when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain.

>  Made damn sure that Pilate washed his hands, and sealed his fate.

>  Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name!"



You get herbal tobacco in the UK. It tastes like shit in my opinion, but 

some people like it.



Shug



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 14 Aug 1996 12:43:24 GMT



In <3211EB9A.451@sol.co.uk> shug <shug@sol.co.uk> writes: 



>You get herbal tobacco in the UK. It tastes like shit in my opinion,

>but some people like it.



Here also, same effect; BAD!  <smile>  There is one made from mullen

with a little ginsing among other unknown ingredients, I think it si

very bad.



We can get pure tobacco with no additives; the brand is American

Spirit. It may not be as bad for one as the regular cigarettes

considering the published list of additives they contain.



James



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: howieb@teleport.com (Howie Brounstein)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 18:26:26 GMT



Check out the Herbal Smoking Mixtures booklet available through my homepage 

below.





Howie Brounstein

howieb@teleport.com

http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html



"It's easy to harvest wild plants, the hard part is not harvesting."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: satur9@humboldt1.com

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:58:08 -0700



american spirit also produces what they call "powwow mix" or something 

like that.  bark and weeds and sticks.  not bad tasting really - just 

different.



ask your local tobaccanist.  i've encountered some strange and tasty 

stuff in smoke shops.



\the misery kid



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

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Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: rr@dds.nl (Rasta Robert)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:10:07 GMT



				-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----



In msg <32111D36.530A@NWLINK.COM>, Nikolai Faaland <NIKOLAI@NWLINK.COM> wrote:



>hey y'all



>I wonder if anybody can help me out on this.  I like smoking (as in, the 

>action of doing it), but I want to be able to do it without the side-effects 

>that you get from tobacco and mj.  Tobacco is fairly cheap, but is rather 

>startlingly bad for you.  MJ is great fun, but expensive and I don't always 

>want to get stoned when I smoke.



Smoking anything will have some side effects, because it is irritating to the

lungs, and any burning/smoldering plant material produces tars.

There are indications that part of the harm from tobacco comes from the

radioactive isotope polonium, that's said to be the result from using certain

chemical fertilizers. If you're living in the US, you should be able to get

organic Natural American Spirit tobacco, which is grown without fertilizer

and not treated with with chemicals. I just recently got someone sending me

a pouch of this tobacco, and I must say I like it very much. It's very tasty

but not too strong, when you roll a cigaret from it and smoke some of it, and

than put it away, it won't burn up, but will just go out.  I tend to smoke

less of this tobacco it seems.



>So my question is, are there any easily available smokeable herbs out there? 

> What I'd like is something that can be rolled into a cigarette, is not 

>addictive, hopefully legal and therefore cheap, tastes good, and doesn't 

>affect you in any significant way.  A THC-less pot would be perfect.  Tastes 

>good, doesn't reek like tobacco, non-addictive, etc.



Herbs you can use as a base for a herbal smoking mixture are mullen (sp.)

and coltsfoot. These are fairly neutral, you can mix in other herbs in

small quatities for taste/efffect like sage, sagebrush, damiana, yerba santa,

kinnick-kinnick. 



>I've tried something called Kinick-kinick, and it fit the bill except it was 

>kind of harsh.  Anybody have any ideas?



Kinnick-kinnick is nice, but just by itself is better smoked in a pipe,

mix with some organic tobacco or coltsfoot/mullen and it will be right

for rolling int a cigarette.



Rasta Robert



>Thanks,





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?

From: bkelly@icon.co.za (Brady Kelly)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 05:56:28 GMT



Nikolai Faaland <NIKOLAI@NWLINK.COM> wrote:



>I wonder if anybody can help me out on this.  I like smoking (as in, the 

>action of doing it), but I want to be able to do it without the side-effects 

>that you get from tobacco and mj.  Tobacco is fairly cheap, but is rather 

>startlingly bad for you.  MJ is great fun, but expensive and I don't always 

>want to get stoned when I smoke.



Any smoke inhaled is bad for you, so why you would want to inhale

smoke as an end in itself is beyond me. I can understand you wanting

to smoke something healthier than MJ or tobacco in order to relax for

for some purpose, but to smoke purely for the action of it is in my

opinion infantile.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Question about herbal multi-levels?

From: Michael Redman <mredman@bvoice.com>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 01:34:12 +0000



Within the past few years, several herbal/environmental/whatever you can 

think of multi-level (read "pyramid") marketing schemes have come 

around. It seems that more and more are being born every day with 

"Equinox" being the most recent.



My question has nothing to do with the pyramiding and drawing in of the 

naive, but the quality of the product itself, assuming that there is 

one.



Has anyone had any experience with any of these items?



Feedback?



--Michael



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Question about herbal multi-levels?

From: Kris  Gammon <AncientOne@gnn.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:40:35





>My question has nothing to do with the pyramiding and

> drawing in of the 

>naive, but the quality of the product itself, assuming

> that there is 

>one.



I have found that the products are almost always quality. 

BUT, I still avoid them. The reason? MLM people are such 

a pain in the butt. The companies are not really 

interested in selling the products it seems to me...just 

in nailing as many people as they can to "sign up". I 

tried an MLM and changed to buying direct from the 

manufacturer for resell. Products can be sold at lower 

cost that way even tho I have to buy a larger amount at a 

time. I am much happier without the MLM companies on my 

back to sign people up. I sell product not people.



Kris



**********************************

Primitive Alternatives

Ancient Medicinal Traditions

800-700-5095 360-715-1262

**********************************





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Obesity...

From: luann@twlakes.net

Date: 14 Aug 1996 02:26:28 GMT



I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually, I feel 

very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and 

trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any 

Advice?



Desperate-

LuAnn



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:12:56 -0700



luann@twlakes.net wrote:

> 

> I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually, I feel

> very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and

> trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any

> Advice?



Vegetables and fruits.  Also, drink grapefruit juice first thing in the morning.  Try 

a tablespoon of psyllyum husk in a 160z glass of water before each meal.  (Metamucil, 

or Konsyl are brand names for psyllyum husk).



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: nmig@nj1.aae.com (Nicholas Migliozzi)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 11:38:53 GMT



In article <321295B8.2885@hevanet.com>, solis <solis@hevanet.com> wrote:



> luann@twlakes.net wrote:

> > 

> > I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually,

I feel

> > very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and

> > trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any

> > Advice?

> 

> Vegetables and fruits.  Also, drink grapefruit juice first thing in the

morning.  Try 

> a tablespoon of psyllyum husk in a 160z glass of water before each

meal.  (Metamucil, 

> or Konsyl are brand names for psyllyum husk).





  Your problem is solved in three words: 



      EXERCISE!  EXERCISE!  EXERCISE!



----------======----------

Take a dazzling "Voyage Through Life" at: 



                http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2571



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: qwill@primenet.com (Qwill & Zara)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 19:12:02 -0700



nmig@nj1.aae.com (Nicholas Migliozzi) wrote:



>In article <321295B8.2885@hevanet.com>, solis <solis@hevanet.com> wrote:



>> luann@twlakes.net wrote:

>> > 

>> > I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually,

>I feel

>> > very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and

>> > trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any

>> > Advice?

>> 

>> Vegetables and fruits.  Also, drink grapefruit juice first thing in the

>morning.  Try 

>> a tablespoon of psyllyum husk in a 160z glass of water before each

>meal.  (Metamucil, 

>> or Konsyl are brand names for psyllyum husk).





>  Your problem is solved in three words: 



>      EXERCISE!  EXERCISE!  EXERCISE!



>----------======----------

>Take a dazzling "Voyage Through Life" at: 



>                http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2571



	Exercise may not be the only tool needed.  Believe me, I used to have

the same symptoms.  If you are as drug out tired as I was, there is no

way one could even have the energy to exercise right off the bat.

	27 is young, but please see a doctor and check if you have diabetes or

are  a borderline diabetic.   If you are having chest pains, you sure

as hell better talk to a doctor before doing any new diet or exercise

regamen(spelling?).

	Hopping on board each and every new diet promoted on the market will

only make your wallet thin.  Riding the diet roller coaster itself

will exhaust you and your body.  It will make you feel disgusted with

yourself and a failure.  I've taken several rides on that particular

non-amusement ride.  The diet companies will prey on your vulnerbility

and feed off your lack of self esteem.   Please don't be angry at my

words.  I shudder to say how much I shelled out to them myself.  There

is another way.

	1) learn to love yourself.  Now, right now, You are beautiful.

Society is the one with the problems.   Barbie has always been merely

a plastic doll.  People forget this.

	2)Take a good look at real people.  Sit in a park or at a mall.  Look

at everyone.  Old, young, big , and small.  We come in all shapes,

sizes and colors.  See the beauty of real people.  Tv is not a good

example.  

	3)Forget about losing weight to please anyone.  Your boyfriend, girl

friend, mom dad, society even you.  The wieght isn't the problem.

The sluggeshness and lack of wellbeing is.

	4) Once you are ready  and willing to feel better,  start acting.  If

the doctor finds something like diabetes etc. follow their guidlines.

If you are healthy (in their eyes).  Hunt out a competant dietician.

You may have food allergies or are not eating the right foods in the

proper quanties.    Do this to feel better; don't do this to lose

weight.   Stay away from scales.   You will probably end up losing

weight as a byproduct, but the emphasis is to get you feeling

energetic.

	5) Once your diet is straightened out , you feel good, and have been

feeling good for several months, then start  exercising.  Start slow.

Do things that you enjoy.   Don't do the same type of exercise

exclusively.  Vary your routines.  Find others to exercise with.

Laugh a lot.

	6) Keep this up and you will be better than Barbie.  You will be a

healthy real person.  Go out and shine|     



--Lost in the north woods--

      Qwill



Qwill@primenet.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:14:26 -0500



In article <321295B8.2885@hevanet.com>, solis <solis@hevanet.com> wrote:



> luann@twlakes.net wrote:

> > 

> > I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually,

I feel

> > very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and

> > trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any

> > Advice?

> 

> Vegetables and fruits.  Also, drink grapefruit juice first thing in the

morning.  Try 

> a tablespoon of psyllyum husk in a 160z glass of water before each

meal.  (Metamucil, 

> or Konsyl are brand names for psyllyum husk).



I have a mail-order herbal company called Southernwood Herbals & Gifts. My

suggestion to you before you use any kind of laxative remedies, is to try

herbal teas. Chickweed for the excess water retention, Nettle for its

wonderful vitamin and nutrients, and burdock root for your digestive

system. If you have hypo-active thyroid that is a sluggish low metabolism,

you can take bladderwrack kelp and spirulina. They are all sea vegetables

and they feed our bodies vitamins and nutrients while balancing our

metabolism. Stress was my problem and I drank Stress blend teas.(herbal

teas). after 7 months and about 160 herbs later I lost 20 pounds. It was a

slow gradual loss and that is the only way you want to lose because 2

years later it is still off and I'm 34 years old. I may fluctuate 5 pounds

here and there but never have I gained more. Mind you I have two kids too.

E-Mil me and I will send you a free catalog. I will help you all I can.

Catherine.



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: swade@mindspring.com (Swade)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 06:03:39 GMT



On 14 Aug 1996 02:26:28 GMT, luann@twlakes.net wrote:



>I have been overweight all of my life.  I don't feel healthy actually, I feel 

>very sluggish all of the time and lately I have been having chest pains and 

>trouble breathing...I am 27 years old and I have tried 100's of diets...Any 

>Advice?

>

>Desperate-

>LuAnn



Dear LuAnn,



I too have been large all my life.  I tipped the scales at around 270#

about 6 years ago and decided instead of starting to buy size 26 pants

to do something about it!



So, I started walking for just 20 minutes an evening.  Every evening.

Then, after the first week, I increased it to 30 minutes.  I also

pushed myself to go a bit faster each walk.



Then, I began working out at a gym.  Easy, light workouts to begin

with:  30 minutes on the treadmill at 2.7 mph; 2 sets of 15 leglifts

with 20#; chest presses, 2 sets of 15 @ 30#; etc. 



Soon, I increased my speed on the treadmill to 3.3 mph and set the

incline at variables of 4 degrees to 12 degrees and my other aspects

of the workout increased too!



Along with the exercise, though, I changed the way I ate.  I cut out

all refined sugars.  That meant drinking my coffee black, no sodas, no

chocolate, no desserts!  I satisfied my cravings for sweetness with

fruits.  



I also totally cut out salt, processed foods, white flour products and

heavily saturated fats.  I increased my fiber intake and started

eating lot's of hot sauce on my food.  (Cayenne pepper is a great

metabolic accelerator.)



At the time, I traveled for business.  I made it a point when checking

into my hotel to find out where the closest gym was and where I could

find a good soup and salad bar restaurant.



In a period of 8 months, I went from a size 24 down to a 16/18.  I

still maintain my high fiber/low sugar diet, but I do allow myself an

occassional chocolate bar or fast food meal.  Still, I find that

cutting out all the refined sugars, salts, white flour and processed

foods certainly increased the flavor of my foods!  Now, I rarely use

salt to flavor my foods cause they taste just fine without them!



The key to all this, LuAnn, is a desire on your part to succeed, a

willingness to forego the nasty foods you've become accustomed to and

a belief that you can become healthier.



Oh, BTW, I am still a large woman.  But, I am a very healthy  large

woman!   And, I have lot's of energy too!



Good luck!





========================================================

The Creator has not given you a longing to do that which 

you have no ability to do............Orison Swett Marden

========================================================

........ http://www.mindspring.com/~swade/index.htm 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: grabec@aol.com (GraBec)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 06:20:44 -0400



I have had a weight problem all my life too and I mean, ALL. It is such a

problem that no one can understand it without having had experienced it. I

finally went on two very powerful drugs and they have helped me, for the

very first time in my life, to loose over 55 pounds. I have maintained

this weigt loss for going on a year with the help of some very strong

herbs. It is my opinion, based on my experience only, that exercise and

dieting are the hobgoblins of minds of people who have not had this

problem acutely as these two suggestions never worked for me and never

will. My problem with food, I believe, went way beyond simple remedies

like exercise/diet. It is, I believe, a great deal of brain chemistry that

I am either born with or develop over time. And to truly combat this

problem and get any kind of ongoing results, it has taken some very

powerful help in the form of drugs/herbs. Thank the good Lord for both.

What people did not understand was that telling me that I could loose

weight if I just exercised, dieted and used "will power" was like telling

a bird to learn to fly that had no wings. Just my opinion



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Obesity...

From: pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M. McAvoy)

Date: 28 Aug 1996 18:26:38 GMT



In article <4vui5s$td@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, grabec@aol.com says...

>

>very first time in my life, to loose over 55 pounds. I have maintained

>this weigt loss for going on a year with the help of some very strong

>herbs. It is my opinion, based on my experience only, that exercise and



What herbs have you been taking?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Celery

From: Karen <maetkare@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:01:35 -0700



What are the medicinal uses of Celery? Also...can it be made into a tea?



Thanks for any info!



Karen



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Celery

From: Randy & Pam Workman <workmanr@spots.ab.ca>

Date: 14 Aug 1996 14:10:03 GMT



Karen wrote:

> 

> What are the medicinal uses of Celery? Also...can it be made into a tea?

> 

> Thanks for any info!

> 

> Karen



I understand it is good for blood pressure.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Celery

From: obriens@echo.sound.net (John Obrien)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 00:35:12 GMT



Karen (maetkare@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: What are the medicinal uses of Celery? Also...can it be made into a tea?

: Karen



Try taking it before going to bed.  It's a great tranquilizer/sleeping aid.

(The stalks, that is.)



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Celery

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:54:52 GMT



obriens@echo.sound.net (John Obrien) wrote:



>Karen (maetkare@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

>: What are the medicinal uses of Celery? Also...can it be made into a tea?

>: Karen



>Try taking it before going to bed.  It's a great tranquilizer/sleeping aid.

>(The stalks, that is.)



I kid you not...juice carrots with ..whatever you want..and

celery...or just the 2 together, and it will prevent you from getting

so hot when the weather is hot...I did this, and I sweat alot when it

gets hot here...and it stopped me from getting so hot. I didn't sweat

as much...and heat stroke was reduced a great deal. 



J





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Any good herbs for acne???

From: kel6978@singnet.com.sg (Kelvin Wei Chong)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:21:20 GMT



Tell me abt it and the product's name......etc..

Thanks...:)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:19:58 GMT



On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, kel6978@singnet.com.sg (Kelvin Wei Chong) asked:



>Tell me abt it and the product's name......etc..



I don't know about any herbs for acne, but there is a diet change that

should work for you. You will note that acne isn't a problem in Southeast

Asia for people still eating the native diet. It only becomes a problem

when you start eating a western diet. What's the difference? You eat wheat,

which contains a toxic protein called gluten. In this highly recommended

article:



Lutz, W.J., "The Colonisation of Europe and Our Western Diseases", Medical

Hypotheses, Vol. 45, pages 115-120, 1995



Dr. Lutz argues that there is a clear, inverse relationship between

civilisatory diseases and the length of time the people of a given region

of Europe have had to adapt to the high carbohydrate diet associated with

the cultivation of cereal grains that was begun in the Near East, and

spread very slowly through Europe.



I quote from the first page of the article:



"In over thirty years of clinical practice, I have found, as published in

numerous papers and several books (3, 4), that diet works well against

Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, multiple sclerosis, heart failure,

acne and other problems."



3. Lutz, W J, , Leben ohme Brot, 12th edn. Planegg: Selecta Verlag, 1992.

(In English: Dismantling a Myth: The role of Fat and Carbohydrates in Our

Diet, Springfield, Ill; Charles Thomas, 1987.



4. Lutz, W J, Arterioselerose und Krebs - Fette oder Kohlenhydrate? Weiner

Med Wschr 1989: 101(12):429.



So I bet you are eating much more cereal grains nowadays. Go back to rice!



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: gorgancs <gorgancs@peg.apc.org>

Date: 17 Aug 1996 11:29:16 GMT



there are many herbal preperations.One good fomulae is                    

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     1PART                             HORSETAIL                          

                             ALSO ADJUNCT MINERAL THERAPY                 

                                 SODIUM PHOSPHATE                         

                                 POTASSIUM PHOSPHATE                      

                                 POTASSIUM SULFATE                        

                                 SILICA                                   

      DRINK  ONE  CUP 3 TIMES DAILY           TAKE 1 TABLET 3TIMES DAILY  

                                                                          

                          ALSO AVOID MILK PRODUCTS                        

                                     FRIED FOODS                          

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                   CALL ME FOR MORE ADVICE NO CHARGE                      

                                                                          

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: lwrnce@aol.com (Lwrnce)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:21:12 -0400



two that i have read about are lavender oil and tea tree oil. many

different companies market this stuff, so i'd try an herb shop or a

natural foods store/co-op.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: lwrnce@aol.com (Lwrnce)

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: a0008783@airmail.net

Date: 31 Aug 1996 03:31:22 GMT



In article <4v4aec$11g@peg.apc.org> <4vrc89$pun@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

    lwrnce@aol.com (Lwrnce) wrote:

> 

> two that i have read about are lavender oil and tea tree oil. many

> different companies market this stuff, so i'd try an herb shop or a

> natural foods store/co-op.

> 





not a herb....but zinc is very helpful. (30-50mg a day)



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: mark anderson <virtue@iafrica.com>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:01:47 -0700



Kelvin Wei Chong wrote:

> 

> Tell me abt it and the product's name......etc..

> Thanks...:)



Bulbinella (Bulbine frutescens)



the medicinal uses of bulbinella are amazing !!

Apply the freshly squeezed juicefrequently to burns, 

blisters,rashes,insect bites, itchy places, cracked lips, feve4r 

blisters, cold sores (even up inside the nose ) , pimples, mouth ulcers, 

bee stings, eczema.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any good herbs for acne???

From: email.naturesway@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:04:43 GMT



kel6978@singnet.com.sg (Kelvin Wei Chong) wrote:



>Tell me abt it and the product's name......etc..

>Thanks...:)



with swiss & dutch help we have produced an ACNE STICK, which clears

up acne & pimples on the majority of people very very quickly, one

woman who suffered constantly in our dutch office has written a

testimonial because within three days of starting to use it she was

clear after spending lots and getting nowhere.



it is which is blended from 13 different essential oils, 



how does it work ? well essential oils have been discovered to have

differing properties and blending ones together which provide

differing workings, ie relaxing, detoxifying etc we have a product

that works. essential oils get working very much faster than

conventional drugs because they can get into the skin in less than 30

seconds, if you rubbed the sole of your foot with garlic or garlic oil

within a few seconds your breath would smell of garlic.



It is made from a blend of the following



Lemon

Geranium

Lavendel

Real Rose (Expensive)

Bergamot

Rosmary

Wild Chamomille

Real Chamomille (blue)

Petit Grain

Peppermint (piperitae)

Myrh

Calandula tincture (not oil)

Camphor Oil

Natural Menthol Crystals.

regards  

ANDY & SHARON			NATURE'S WAY	

NATURAL PRODUCTS FOR EVERYDAY USE

LET US HELP YOU MAKE YOUR OWN COSMETICS 				 TEL/FAX (44) (0)116 224 9814



NATURAL REMEDIES FOR HEADPAIN & ACNE. 

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Who's spiking the echinacea?

From: Randy & Pam Workman <workmanr@spots.ab.ca>

Date: 14 Aug 1996 14:15:52 GMT



I started taking echinacea yesterday to try to avoid catchin my hubby's 

cold.  I have never taken it before.  Last night I started to experience 

classic amphetamine side-effects: sweaty palms, racing heart, 

palpitations, irritability, sleeplessness, etc.  I have never had sweaty 

palms in my life, but I could hardly even hang onto the mouse!  Don't 

tell me echinacea is an amphetamine?!?!  Are these usual side effects?  

Do they indicate an allergic reaction?



I also started taking Evening Primrose Oil and Dong Quai a short time 

ago.  Is this a result of mixing drugs?  The only other thing I take is a 

multi-vitamin and Seldane.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Who's spiking the echinacea?

From: kaisteph@aol.com (KaiSteph)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 13:08:25 -0400



In article <4usn2o$mci@nr1.vancouver.istar.net>, Randy & Pam Workman

<workmanr@spots.ab.ca> writes:



> The only other thing I take is a 

>multi-vitamin and Seldane.



This is pure conjecture - but I know Seldane is unsafe with certain

antibiotics, perhaps it causes side effects with echinacea as well?



:)Steph

KaiSteph@aol.com



KaiSteph@aol.com

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Who's spiking the echinacea?

From: drgonmarsh@aol.com (DRGONMARSH)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 21:33:32 -0400



In article <4usn2o$mci@nr1.vancouver.istar.net>, Randy & Pam Workman

<workmanr@spots.ab.ca> writes:



>I also started taking Evening Primrose Oil and Dong Quai a short time 

>ago.  Is this a result of mixing drugs?  The only other thing I take is a



>multi-vitamin and Seldane.

>

>



OHHHHH Baby You have the shakes! Not only do you have "uppers " in the

seldane, but additional b-Vit. in the Multis that you don't need but you

added ingredients that affect your thyroid and hormones  from the Dong

Quai. The echinacea and the evening primrose oil are trying to clean up

the system that you have put on overload. Best thing you can do is stop

mixing commercial perscriptions and homeopathy. Find a doctor that uses

herbal products and stick with them for a while. It is no overnight cure

but your system will thank you.      Mora -Dragonmarsh



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: DRGONMARSH <drgonmarsh@aol.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Who's spiking the echinacea?

From: Killik R I <rikill@essex.ac.uk>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:31:13 +0100





To clear up some confusion:



Homeopathy does not = herbal medicine.





**********************

Rupert Killik

Colchester, Essex, UK

rikill@essex.ac.uk

**********************



On 19 Aug 1996, DRGONMARSH wrote:



> In article <4usn2o$mci@nr1.vancouver.istar.net>, Randy & Pam Workman

> <workmanr@spots.ab.ca> writes:

> 

> >I also started taking Evening Primrose Oil and Dong Quai a short time 

> >ago.  Is this a result of mixing drugs?  The only other thing I take is a

> 

> >multi-vitamin and Seldane.

> >

> >

> 

> OHHHHH Baby You have the shakes! Not only do you have "uppers " in the

> seldane, but additional b-Vit. in the Multis that you don't need but you

> added ingredients that affect your thyroid and hormones  from the Dong

> Quai. The echinacea and the evening primrose oil are trying to clean up

> the system that you have put on overload. Best thing you can do is stop

> mixing commercial perscriptions and homeopathy. Find a doctor that uses

> herbal products and stick with them for a while. It is no overnight cure

> but your system will thank you.      Mora -Dragonmarsh

> 

> 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: rose beads

From: Tada@ix.netcom.com (Ray Tadajewski)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:09:19 GMT





Hi,



I am in the process of making rose beads, and I am wondering if anyone

else has made this project.  I have lots of roses, receipes and the

utensils, but needed someone to talk to that has done this before.

Can I use pots, blender and etc for other things, such as cooking

dinner, or is it better to use pots and pans only for making rose

beads.  The receipe that I have says that it could take from a couple

of days to a few weeks to finish the rose beads.  Is this true?

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me.



Linda Tadajewski

Linda's Herbal Scents





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Coltsfoot (Tussilago)

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:14:43 GMT



On 19 Jul 1996 17:27:29 -0400, in alt.folklore.herbs eprn@aol.com (EP RN) wrote:



>Does anyone know of a way to control this plant and keep it from taking

>over my neighborhood?  I planted two small plants nearly five years ago. 

>For years they behaved themselves but this year they have both 'bolted'

>(pun intended) and are now covering half of my yard and spreading into

>both neighbors' yards on each side of me.  At the beginning of this year,

>I dug out all of it that I could find but that only seemed to encourage

>it.  It even crowded out the squash and musk melon plants that I planted

>near them.



Tussilago likes clay (as do some other obnoxious root weeds) and the only thing

that kept it (and those pals) in check in my herb garden was potatoes. As the

surrounding area is full of them they came back... but if you plant potatoes on

ALL the area the Tussilago is now on you might get rid of it. I'd do at least 2

years in a row.

Tussilago has roots that go deep, spread horizontally, go deeper, spread

horizontally, go deeper ... you get the picture. That's the T.farfara, can't say

if that's the one you have.



Good luck,

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tribulus for Drive

From: Jerome M. Watson <74514.2332@CompuServe.COM>

Date: 14 Aug 1996 16:00:13 GMT



Has anyone ever heard of Tribulus.  I hear its good for bodybuilding and

also sex drive.

-- 



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Psyllium vs Metamuscil

From: us000483@interramp.com

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:41:56 edt





Are these substances equally effective?

Thanx

Judy Vedder





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Psyllium vs Metamuscil

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 14 Aug 1996 17:45:13 GMT



metamuscil is psyllium (with flavoring added)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Psyllium vs Metamuscil

From: turnera@sover.net (Allison Turner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:14:31 -0500



In article <4ut3b9$2n9@gw.PacBell.COM>, Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com> wrote:



> metamuscil is psyllium (with flavoring added)



and some form of sugar.



- Allison



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Psyllium vs Metamuscil

From: activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:54:08 GMT



us000483@interramp.com wrote:





>Are these substances equally effective?

>Thanx

>Judy Vedder



I think that Metamucil *is* psyllium, with additives, colors, flavors and

sweeteners added to make it more soluable and palatable.









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Psyllium vs Metamuscil

From: tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:36:21 GMT



us000483@interramp.com wrote:





>Are these substances equally effective?

>Thanx

>Judy Vedder



Well, that depends on the effect you are after,

if you want your teeth to rot faster...try the one with sugar added...

{ ; ^ )







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Catnip?

From: fizzbomb@aol.com (FizzBomb)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:54:27 -0400



I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at least

without classical feline after effects such as yarn-ball playing, purring,

etc.  I ask because I had the opportunity to try some fresh-off-the-plant

catnip a while ago and was quite enchanted by its minty taste.  Anyone

know where I can get some, and does it have any physical effects?



FizzBomb <--> fizzbomb@aol.com

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: FizzBomb <fizzbomb@aol.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: Gene Bilney <gb0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:26:13 -0500



On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, FizzBomb wrote:



> I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at least

> without classical feline after effects such as yarn-ball playing, purring,

> etc.  I ask because I had the opportunity to try some fresh-off-the-plant

> catnip a while ago and was quite enchanted by its minty taste.  Anyone

> know where I can get some, and does it have any physical effects?

> ----------------------------------

  Yes, quite safe. The dried leaves make an herbal tea that is very good

  for sore throats. Make the tea to suit your taste, add teaspoon of

  honey if desired and then add a pinch of cayenne. The pepper acts

  on the sore throat to bring blood to the sore area of the throat to

  promote healing and the honey will soothe it.

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Catnip?

From: white@nando.net

Date: 16 Aug 1996 02:03:28 GMT







On 1996-08-14 fizzbomb said:

 fi I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at



snip



 fi by its minty taste.  Anyone know where I can get some, and does it

 fi have any physical effects?





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: deborah@erinet.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:30:21 GMT



When I can't sleep, I make  a tea from fresh catnip and lemonbalm from

the garden. It makes me very relaxed and sleepy after about ten

minutes.

Debbie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:23:01 GMT



fizzbomb@aol.com (FizzBomb) wrote:



>I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at least

>without classical feline after effects such as yarn-ball playing, purring,

>etc.  I ask because I had the opportunity to try some fresh-off-the-plant

>catnip a while ago and was quite enchanted by its minty taste.  Anyone

>know where I can get some, and does it have any physical effects?

--------------------------



Quite safe! Makes a nice tea to enjoy, with or without a feline

friend. Mild mint flavored tea with sedative properties is gently

soothing, will help resolve insomnia. It is so gentle that it is

wonderful to give to an excited child to help calm them at bedtime.

With its high Vitamin C and Vitamin A content, it's no wonder that it

is an old-time remedy for preventing, and (if it is too late), for

chasing away colds. It promotes sweating, and will help break a fever.

An appetite stimulant, and digestive aid.

Herbal lore: Chewing on catnip root will provide one with enough

courage for even the most daunting task. The root when chewed is said

to make the most gentle person fierce and quarrelsome, and there is a

legend of a certain executioner who could never screw up his courage

to the point of hanging anybody till he had partaken of it.



It is very easy to obtain a catnip seedling from the gardening centers

in the spring. It will flourish happily in a container or in the herb

bed. You can take as much as you want from the plant to make tea, and

the plant will happily send out more shoots.

Enjoy!

Carol

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 15:51:09 GMT



In <fizzbomb-1408961254270001@ts11-07.upenn.edu> fizzbomb@aol.com

(FizzBomb) writes: 

>

>I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at least

>without classical feline after effects such as yarn-ball playing,

purring,

>etc.  I ask because I had the opportunity to try some

fresh-off-the-plant

>catnip a while ago and was quite enchanted by its minty taste.  Anyone

>know where I can get some, and does it have any physical effects?

>

>FizzBomb <--> fizzbomb@aol.com

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>

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By what I understand, Catnip is absolutely safe for human consumption

without encouraging us into cat-like activities. :-)



Seriously, though, it's calming and it's good for your tummy. I've

never tried it but know people who have, especially as a tea. Try your

healthfood store, they might have it in tea form.



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: lnrplxus@ripco.com (Dave)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:11:27 GMT



FizzBomb (fizzbomb@aol.com) wrote:

: I was wondering if it was safe for humans to consume catnip, at least

: without classical feline after effects such as yarn-ball playing, purring,

: etc.  I ask because I had the opportunity to try some fresh-off-the-plant

: catnip a while ago and was quite enchanted by its minty taste.  Anyone

: know where I can get some, and does it have any physical effects?



It's also good to relieve intestinal cramping that accompanies diarrhea

and if your baby has colic the breastfeeding mom can drink it to help

(or a very small amount given to the baby in extreme cases has been said

to be beneficial, but you should be very careful with that).  



It has a sedative effect, but it gives me a hangover the next day.

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Catnip?

From: fizzbomb@aol.com (FizzBomb)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 15:02:53 -0400



Well, thank you all for your catnip-style advice, and I look forward to

trying some out once I can get my hands (paws?) on some.  Yes, I don't

like the cat jokes any more than you do, but I can't help it.



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: A question about Preparation: Hound's tongue

From: Burris <burris@myna.com>

Date: 14 Aug 1996 19:38:38 GMT



Can anybody help me with the following questions:



1. How do I prepare the old Iroquois herbal cancer treatment based 

on Hound's Tongue (Cynoglossum officinale) for use on a child

with bone cancer?



2. Can I buy the complete preparation and if so where?



Please help if you can.



Burris





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Echinacea research?

From: linda@shakti.ucolick.org (The Princess Otter)

Date: 14 Aug 1996 21:18:51 GMT



Hi Herbalites,



My office mate and I just had a huge argument over the use of echinacea

and goldenseal for the prevention of colds.  I use it and have had very

good results.  I have tried to get him to try it (he has a cold right now)

and he fairly exploded at me today, going on about how if it really worked

there would be studies showing that it does and that the big drug

companies would be researching exactly what it is in these herbs that

work and reduce it down to those chemicals and patent it and market it

and make money on it.  He challenged me to cite any research on

these herbs showing there effectiveness in cold prevention, which I

could not.



So!  Does anyone out there know of research showing the effectiveness

or lack thereof for echinacea and goldenseal with regard to colds?



Thanks,



Princess Otter



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: odco@xmission.com (ODCO Inc.)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 04:02:10 GMT



The Princess Otter (linda@shakti.ucolick.org) wrote:

: So!  Does anyone out there know of research showing the effectiveness

: or lack thereof for echinacea and goldenseal with regard to colds?







Ther have been some rather convincing double blind clinical studies 

regarding echinacea, but i do not recall the reference.



JIM:)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:39:04 GMT



In article <4utfrr$gti@darkstar.ucsc.edu>,

   linda@shakti.ucolick.org (The Princess Otter) wrote:



>and he fairly exploded at me today, going on about how if it really 

worked

>there would be studies showing that it does and that the big drug

>companies would be researching exactly what it is in these herbs that

>work and reduce it down to those chemicals and patent it and market 

it

>and make money on it.



Well, now there's the biggest problem: you can't patent an herb. You 

can't patent a "chemical" from a plant. For example, there's no 

patents on vitamins: only the usual trademark/formulation infringement 

protection on formulations of vitamins.



So, to take a case in point, Big Pharmaceutical Multinational Inc. is 

not not NOT EVER going to spend dime one to research echinacea when 

they won't see humongoid profits (a la Valium or even Losec) from it. 

Forget it. You'll see hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D for a 

patentable drug, that is, one which can only be made by BPMInc. and 

which is only available from BPMInc. and its worldwide subsidiaries. 

But you will never see a drug company researching something they can't 

patent.



The reason they can't patent is kind of like the "public domain" rule 

of copyright: nobody can copyright the words to Mary Had A Little 

Lamb, because they are considered "public domain": everyone has a 

right to use them. Now if you add some original music, well hey, you 

can copyright the music. But not the words. You can copyright the 

"combination" of music and words. But I digress...how does this 

connect to plants and herbs and roots, I hear you ask.



Echinacea is widely grown, grows in the wild, is pretty much freely 

available as a plant to pretty much anybody in the world south of the 

Arctic Circle. It, or any of it's inherent properties, whether 

chemical or genetic, are not patentable. If someone were to hybridize 

or otherwise modify your basic Echinacea Purpurea, that could be 

patented, but only if it could be proved it didn't exist before. Rose 

growers develop new  kinds of roses all the time and can patent them.



And any properties which the "new" echinacea hybrid possessed could 

also be patented. 



It's a pretty risky business, from BPMInc's point of view, and unless 

they can be guaranteed profits from their patents, they're not going 

to do it for a mere 10% a year, for example. They're used to 1000%'s. 

The rationale is that they spent a whole lot of money and took a risk 

in R&D for the product's development and testing and approvals, and 

they should be able to have some protection (by way of patent) in 

order to recoup these monies. Still, some have calculated that the 

entire R&D budget at one of these large multinationals is entirely 

paid for from the profit of ONE of it's patented formulations.



You therefore are looking at alternative research facilities: 

universities, hospitals, some institutes of health. And where is the 

funding for research in those institutions going to come from? Is the 

AMA going to support it, given the close (ahem) relationship between 

the AMA and pharmaceutical corporations? If the AMA thinks it's a 

"wacky idea and has no basis in medical practice", how far along will 

a grant proposal get?



Your coworker is pointing his finger at one of the very thorniest 

problems in health care: no one will do research on alternative 

medicines because there is not enough money in it; and because no one 

will do research, there will never be enough money in it; and because 

no one will do research, we're stuck between a rock and a hard place 

when it comes to deciding on how we're going to treat our aches and 

pains and illnesses.



However, anecdotal evidence gathered over centuries is nothing to be 

sneezed at either (pardon the execrable pun). After all, the American 

Indians, Chinese, and Europeans who used herbal medicines for 

centuries weren't stupid. If something didn't work, they wouldn't be 

taking it: they'd be dead. And those around them would remember and 

pass that valuable information on.



You might want to point out to him that digitalis (one of the most 

widely-used drugs for heart conditions) was "discovered" in the 

foxglove: recommended for centuries for people with heart problems, in 

a tea or tincture. And willow-bark was used by Europeans and North 

American Indians as a pain-reliever for many centuries before anyone 

noticed it contained high concentrations of acetylsalicylic acid, 

better known as Aspirin. These are just two examples of well-known and 

respected remedies that came to us from "old wives' tales".



At the very least, echinacea won't scour his intestines and give him 

diarrhea; won't upset his stomach; can't cause a potentially fatal 

allergic reaction; and does not contribute to the growing pool of 

antibiotic-resistant bacteria in existence today. In other words, it 

won't do him any harm at all to try it. He can judge for himself 

whether or not it has any efficacy. After all, lots of remedies, 

whether Western or traditional, have varying effects on people. 



Aren't you sorry you got me started?



Linda <---venting 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: Jeffrey Brown <jlbrown@top.monad.net>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:51:21 +0000



Linda,



I agree.  I hope you don't mind if I just say to any "unknowing" 

readers:  Foxglove is deadly.  People have died from the tea.  In other 

words, don't try this at home.



Chris



Linda de Gonzalez wrote:



> You might want to point out to him that digitalis (one of the most

> widely-used drugs for heart conditions) was "discovered" in the

> foxglove: recommended for centuries for people with heart problems, in

> a tea or tincture.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 15 Aug 1996 17:42:18 GMT



Here is some information on research done:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbs/immune.html

I'm sure a web search would bring up more.

I read somewhere that echinacea was a fairly staple medicine cabinet 

item in America prior to modern day antibiotics being used.









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 08:01:46 -0400





>>there would be studies showing that it does and that the big drug

>>companies would be researching exactly



You might mention that many of the older chemical drugs and procedures

used today that were never subjected to double-blind studies.  To say

nothing of the large number of drugs prescribed to women or the elderly

that have never been tested on those population groups. (However, that's

another rant for another day!)



However, if he wants scientific data on echinacea, he might want to read:

Meclchart D., Linde K. et al: Immunomodulation with echinacea - a systemic

review of controlled clinical trials. Phytomedicine 1:245-254, 1994



Leuttig B., Steinmuller C. et al, Macrophage activation by the

polysaccharide arabinoglactan isolated from plant cell cultures of

Echinacea purpurea. J. Natl Cancer Inst 81:669-675, 1989



Schoenberger D: The influence of immune-stimulating effects of pressed

juice from Echinacea purpurea on the course and severity of colds. Forum

Immunol 8:2-12, 1992.

[citations from Herbal Prescriptions for Health by Donald J. Brown, ND,

1996].



In Schoenberger's study, 108 patients were given an E. purpurea liquid

preparation or a placebo.  The echinacea group resisted infection better

(over an 8 week period), and those that got sick had symptoms of less

severity than those of placebo group and recovered more quickly.  Another

study concerning 180 volunteers (age range 18 to 60 years) with the flu

split their volunteers into 3 groups: placebo, 450 milligrams echinacea

daily, and 900 milligrams daily.  The 900 milligrams showed significant

reduction in flu symptoms (chills, aches, sore throat) while the 450

milligram group showed only mild change. 



The research is out there and, as the herbal industry grows, it's getting

better funding.  It's still not up to the level of the pharmaceutical

industry, but the real reason that most doctors don't know it is that they

don't bother to look for it.  



Feel free to copy this information for your friendly local skeptics.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



PS  You'll see even more research readily available when the German

Monograph E is published in English later this year.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:56:05 GMT



In article <4uugp3$r3o@thoth.portal.ca> gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez) writes:

>From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

>Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

>Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:39:04 GMT





>You might want to point out to him that digitalis (one of the most 

>widely-used drugs for heart conditions) was "discovered" in the 

>foxglove: recommended for centuries for people with heart problems, in 

>a tea or tincture. And willow-bark was used by Europeans and North 

>American Indians as a pain-reliever for many centuries before anyone 

>noticed it contained high concentrations of acetylsalicylic acid, 

>better known as Aspirin. These are just two examples of well-known and 

>respected remedies that came to us from "old wives' tales".



 



No. O-Acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) does NOT occur naturally. It is synthetic 

and its first reported synthesis was that of Carl Frederich von Gerhardt in 

1853 (although he was not studying the compound's medicinal properties). 

Willow bark and the bark and other tissues of many species of plants, on the 

other hand, contain varying quantities of salicylate esters, salicyl acohol 

esters and glycosides. Many of these are inactive in humans but may be 

metabolised to salicylic acid. In this sense they are considered to be 

pro-drugs of salicylic acid.



References:



John R. Vane and Regina M. Botting, 1992, Aspirin and other salicylates, 

Chapman & Hall Medical



K.D. Rainsford, 1984, Aspirin and the salicylates, Butterworths





Regards,



David



(Canis dingo)





D.M. Schmierer		Voice:	0064 03 479 7289 (Office)

School of Pharmacy		0064 03 479 7262 (Lab)

University of Otago		0064 03 453 6939 (A/H)

Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND	Fax:	0064 03 479 7034





E-mail:		dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 08:17:05 GMT



I think the point here is that the idea of aspirin came from willow

bark.  Most of the drugs on the market are synthesized, I don't know if

digitalis is now but I would guess it is.  They find an herb that

works, isolate the one or two chemicals in that herb that have the

effect they want, and then synthesize it.  *That* is what is

patentable, not the herb.  This is also why so many drugs have what

they call "side effects" which are really effects, they just don't

happen to be the ones wanted.  When the entire herb is used, these

other effects don't occur.  



Meadow





In <dschmierer.4280.32179F84@gandalf.otago.ac.nz>

dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz writes: 

>

>In article <4uugp3$r3o@thoth.portal.ca> gladius@portal.ca (Linda de

Gonzalez) writes:

>>From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

>>Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

>>Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:39:04 GMT

>

>

>>You might want to point out to him that digitalis (one of the most 

>>widely-used drugs for heart conditions) was "discovered" in the 

>>foxglove: recommended for centuries for people with heart problems,

in 

>>a tea or tincture. And willow-bark was used by Europeans and North 

>>American Indians as a pain-reliever for many centuries before anyone 

>>noticed it contained high concentrations of acetylsalicylic acid, 

>>better known as Aspirin. These are just two examples of well-known

>>and respected remedies that came to us from "old wives' tales".

>

> 

>

>No. O-Acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) does NOT occur naturally. It is

synthetic 

>and its first reported synthesis was that of Carl Frederich von

Gerhardt in 

>1853 (although he was not studying the compound's medicinal

properties). 

>Willow bark and the bark and other tissues of many species of plants,

on the 

>other hand, contain varying quantities of salicylate esters, salicyl

acohol 

>esters and glycosides. Many of these are inactive in humans but may be

>metabolised to salicylic acid. In this sense they are considered to be

>pro-drugs of salicylic acid.

>

>References:

>

>John R. Vane and Regina M. Botting, 1992, Aspirin and other

salicylates, Chapman & Hall Medical

>

>K.D. Rainsford, 1984, Aspirin and the salicylates, Butterworths

>

>

>Regards,

>

>David

>

>(Canis dingo)

>

>

>D.M. Schmierer		Voice:	0064 03 479 7289 (Office)

>School of Pharmacy		0064 03 479 7262 (Lab)

>University of Otago		0064 03 453 6939 (A/H)

>Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND	Fax:	0064 03 479 7034

>

>

>E-mail:		dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz

>Snail mail:	As above, P.O. Box 913

>--------------------------------------------------------

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: Shez <shez@oldcity.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:52:09 +0100



`EIn article <4v97u1$9he@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,

meadow1@ix.netcom.com writes

>I think the point here is that the idea of aspirin came from willow

>bark.  Most of the drugs on the market are synthesized, I don't know if

>digitalis is now but I would guess it is.  They find an herb that

>works, isolate the one or two chemicals in that herb that have the

>effect they want, and then synthesize it.  *That* is what is

>patentable, not the herb.  This is also why so many drugs have what

>they call "side effects" which are really effects, they just don't

>happen to be the ones wanted.  When the entire herb is used, these

>other effects don't occur.  

>

>Meadow

>

>

>In <dschmierer.4280.32179F84@gandalf.otago.ac.nz>

>dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz writes: 

>>

>>In article <4uugp3$r3o@thoth.portal.ca> gladius@portal.ca (Linda de

>Gonzalez) writes:

>>>From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

>>>Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

>>>Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:39:04 GMT

>>

>>

>>>You might want to point out to him that digitalis (one of the most 

>>>widely-used drugs for heart conditions) was "discovered" in the 

>>>foxglove: recommended for centuries for people with heart problems,

>in 

>>>a tea or tincture. And willow-bark was used by Europeans and North 

>>>American Indians as a pain-reliever for many centuries before anyone 

>>>noticed it contained high concentrations of acetylsalicylic acid, 

>>>better known as Aspirin. These are just two examples of well-known

>>>and respected remedies that came to us from "old wives' tales".

>>

>> 

>>

>>No. O-Acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) does NOT occur naturally. It is

>synthetic 

>>and its first reported synthesis was that of Carl Frederich von

>Gerhardt in 

>>1853 (although he was not studying the compound's medicinal

>properties). 

>>Willow bark and the bark and other tissues of many species of plants,

>on the 

>>other hand, contain varying quantities of salicylate esters, salicyl

>acohol 

>>esters and glycosides. Many of these are inactive in humans but may be

>>metabolised to salicylic acid. In this sense they are considered to be

>>pro-drugs of salicylic acid.

>>

>>References:

>>

>>John R. Vane and Regina M. Botting, 1992, Aspirin and other

>salicylates, Chapman & Hall Medical

>>

>>K.D. Rainsford, 1984, Aspirin and the salicylates, Butterworths

>>

>>

>>Regards,

>>

>>David

>>

>>(Canis dingo)

>>

>>

>>D.M. Schmierer                Voice:  0064 03 479 7289 (Office)

>>School of Pharmacy            0064 03 479 7262 (Lab)

>>University of Otago           0064 03 453 6939 (A/H)

>>Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND  Fax:    0064 03 479 7034

>>

>>

>>E-mail:               dschmierer@gandalf.otago.ac.nz

>>Snail mail:   As above, P.O. Box 913

>>--------------------------------------------------------

>>Backup my hard-drive? ... Hell! I can't even find reverse gear ...

>



Eye Cream

anhydrous lanolin 3 tablespoon ( solid or liquid)

Mineral oil one tablespoon

egg yolk 1

beeswax 2tablespoons

cold water 1tablespoon

safflower oil 2 tablespoon

This can be used as a cleanser as well as a cream, if you dont want the

cleansing properties replace the mineral oil with lanolin

using a double boiler, melt lanolin and mineral oil stir untill the

mixture gells just a little, add beaten egg yolk (use the freshest egg

you can get) melt beeswax and safflower oil in a seperate double boiler

then add the beeswax and safflower, to the other mixture if you add

water it helps moisture, but it can give a stinging effect.beat well

untill the mixture if very frothy , put in jar with tight lid,

refrigarate to help it keep I personaly find that if I take a little out

and allow it to come to room temprature it works better.





Slice cucumber and lay on eyes instead of pads, its very refreshing.

remove skin from large slice of cucumber, mash to a past put on cotton

wool padds and put on eyes, refreshing, moistorising , and reduces dark

circles.



Eye bright cream.

Anhydrous lanolin 3 tablespoons melt in a double boiler add one

tablespoon of salflower oil. Eyebright herb, 2 tablespoon if dried 1

tablespoon if fresh,pound fresh eyebright into as much of a, paste as

you can .

if dried herb,



 add 1 cup  of just off the boil water to the dried herbs only, leave

the leaves for 3 hours to steep, use a tea strainer to remove the

leaves, use a non tefal, non aliminuam pan , an old milk pan , with a

ceramic  lining is best, gently boil the water reduce to a simmer and

reduce the amount of water down as much as you can 1 or 2 tablespoons

would be fine. 



To the still warm cream and oil,introduce the fresh paste,stir well put

in a tight lidded tub, and refrigerate, 



dried herb, use one tablespoon of the herb water, to the still warm

cream and oil, stir well refrigarate 



eyebright cream should always be used cold.

do not increase portions to make more cream, this is a natural product

and will go off in less than a week.

-- 

Shez                                      shez@oldcity.demon.co.uk

The 'Old Craft' lady

------------------------------------------------------------------



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 09:07:14 GMT



In <4utfrr$gti@darkstar.ucsc.edu> linda@shakti.ucolick.org (The

Princess Otter) writes: 

>

>Hi Herbalites,

>So!  Does anyone out there know of research showing the effectiveness

>or lack thereof for echinacea and goldenseal with regard to colds?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Princess Otter



I have a book called Echinacea: Nature's Immune Enhancer, by Steven

Foster, copyright 1991, pub by Healing Arts Press, Rochester VT.  It is

full of research, crammed.  But guess, what...this research is done in

Europe, much of it in German.  



"From 1940 through the present time, there have been over 200 papers

published on the chemistry, pharmacology, and clinical applications of

E. purpurea, and to a lesser extent E. angustifolia and E. pallida. 

German researchers have performed most of the studies, with results

published in their language.  A complete survey of the German studies

is reviewed by Christopher Hobbs (1989) in his excellent work 'The

Echinacea Handbook'."  (page 39)



"Over the past 40 years, studies suggest and demonstrate that Echinacea

is anti-inflammatory, has strong wound-healing action, stimulates the

immune system, is effective against certain viral and bacterial

infections, and is a potentially useful therapeutic agent in diseases

from asthma to cancers.  



"Pharmacological research shows that Echinacea preparations help

stimulate the body's own defense system of cellular immunity. 

Echinacea primarily works through stimulating cellular or nonspecific

immunity, as opposed to specific immunity, such as that produced by

antibodies reacting to a specific antigen (as in the way in which

vaccines work).  Echinacea seems to stimulate a complement of

nonspecific mechanisms such as phagocytes and macrophages, which help

to ingest and destroy invading particles.  It stimulates the activity

of leukocytes (various types of white blood corpuscles that act as

scavengers in order to help combat infections).  Components of

Echinacea inhibit hyaluronidase, an enzyme involved in the infection

process.  Various components have mild bacteriostatic and fungistatic

activity-- helping to allay the spread of pathogens, rather than

killing them outright, as an antibiotic would do.  By increaseing

fibroblasts (cells involved in the development of connective tissue) it

helps to stimulate new tissue development.  Studies on properdin levels

have shown that this serum protein complex-- which helps activate

various aspects of the immune system-- is increased by Echninacea

extracts, providing a further mechanism for its immunostimulatory

action.  Studies have also shown that Echinacea may also act through

stimulating increased production of interferon by macrophages.  In

addition, Echinacea has anti-inflammatory activity.  



"Echninacea has been used in a wide variety of preparations, including

ointments, lotions, creams, fluid extracts, tinctures, dry extracts,

and toothpastes.  Primary external uses (salves and ointments) include

use as a treatment for hard to heal infections, wounds, sores, burn,

and as a topical application to herpes sores (herpes simplex).  Oral

preparations, such as tinctures and extracts, are used to enhance

resistance to infection, stimulate the lymphatic vascular system, and

stimulate fibroblasts (cells invovled in the development of connective

tissue).  Primary uses include enhancing or 'stimulating' the body's

own resistance against infections, estpecially in the prevention of

colds and flu.  If taken at the onset of symptoms, in small frequent

doses every two to three hours for the first 2 days, it often helps to

mobilize the body's own resistance to the condition (Weiss 1985).



"Echinacea preparations demonstrate additional therapeutic value in a

wide range of medical specialties including urology, gynecology,

internal medicine, and dermatology.  Recent clinical use in Europe has

included the use of Echinacea products in the treatment of candidiasis,

prostatitis, impetigo, upper-respiratory tract infections, tonsillitis,

and other ailments or disesases."  (page 64-65)



end quote



My understanding is that in Europe herbal remedies are in much greater

use and are much more available than in the US, where the focus in on

the drugs created by drug companies.  A previous post in this thread

discussed the reasons for this:  $$$.  Drug companies spend boucoups

$$$ developing drugs which can be patented so they can make money off

them.  Unpatentable treatments like herbs make no money.  These

companies have an amazing influence on doctors in the US, to the point

that today the majority of MDs have no experience of herbal treatments,

and the mainstream idea is that herbs don't work and are silly.  



At the turn of the century in the US none of this was true, herbs were

very well respected and utilized by all medical personnel.  People seem

to know that aspirin was developed from willow bark and Digitalis from

foxglove, but it's as though those are the only two drugs from natural

sources.  In fact, the drug companies spend their time with indiginous

people trying to find out what herbs they use to treat diseases.  The

areas where these people live, e.g. the deep Amazon and other (so far)

untouched area of Earth, are shrinking...it's such a strange

connection, the need for knowledge from people who Western culture has

villified and marginalized, and the destruction of the habitat of these

herbs, all being facilitated by our denial of the use and need of

herbs.  It seems to me that the drug companies want to deny the power

of herbs to maintain their control over medicinal treatments, at the

same time they need these herbs.   Do we live in a strange society?



Time to step down from soapbox...am I preaching to the choir here? 

Sorry!



This is a very good book, and very small, just over 100 pages, so it

isn't overwhelming.  It also has a lot of info on preparation and use

of Echinacea.  



Meadow



********

"Mr. Kim, we're Star Fleet Officers.  'Weird' is part of the job."

--Janeway

********



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: jxbrown@aol.com (JXBrown)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 20:13:43 -0400



<snip>

> Drug companies spend boucoups

> $$$ developing drugs which can be patented so they can make money off

> them.  Unpatentable treatments like herbs make no money.

<snip>



I just spent $3.95 for a box of herb tea bags and I noticed that chamomile

eye cream was selling for a mere $22.95.  Where do I get the no money

kind?





=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

"There is no word in the French language for 'drive up window'."

      - Garrison Keillor

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: jdipaulo@ix.netcom.com(James di Paulo )

Date: 19 Aug 1996 03:45:41 GMT



In <4v8bjn$8us@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jxbrown@aol.com (JXBrown) writes:



>> Drug companies spend boucoups $$$ developing drugs which can be

>>patented so they can make money off them.  Unpatentable treatments

>>like herbs make no money. 

>

>I just spent $3.95 for a box of herb tea bags and I noticed that

>chamomile eye cream was selling for a mere $22.95.  Where do I get the

>no money kind?

>

In the herb store. Four dollars should buy nearly a pound of chamomile

flowers,  forget the baggies, they cost over a dime each. <smile> The

eye cream? Make your own, recipes availale in many home cosmetic books.



James



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: madhatte@mail.moscow.com (Nathan Waldren)

Date: 21 Aug 96 22:20:46 GMT







>>I just spent $3.95 for a box of herb tea bags and I noticed that

>>chamomile eye cream was selling for a mere $22.95.  Where do I get the

>>no money kind?

>>

>In the herb store. Four dollars should buy nearly a pound of chamomile

>flowers,  forget the baggies, they cost over a dime each. <smile> The

>eye cream? Make your own, recipes availale in many home cosmetic books.

>

Moreover, chamomile (at least here in W. Washington) grows readily on roadsides

 (plenty about right now, more a few weeks ago) and in other rocky, drained,

 disturbed areas.  There's really no reason to buy any, except in the winter.  



It's quite easy to recognize--low, finely dissected leaves, dense adjacent growth, often looking like a carpet in 

small areas, small yellow heads (capita).  Be careful about ID if you collect yourself, tho most members of fam. 

Asteraceae are not poisonous.  



I'm a botanist, not an herbalist.  



Nathan Waldren







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 04:27:02 GMT



In article <321b8bbe.0@News.LocalAccess.com>,

   madhatte@mail.moscow.com (Nathan Waldren) wrote:

>



>It's quite easy to recognize--low, finely dissected leaves, dense 

adjacent growth, often looking like a carpet in 

>small areas, small yellow heads (capita).  Be careful about ID if you 

collect yourself, tho most members of fam. 

>Asteraceae are not poisonous.  

>



So, how come the Roman chamomile (anthemis nobilis) I have in my 

garden has white flowers? And German chamomile has white flowers too? 

What exactly is the botanical name of the roadside chamomile?



Jes' curious...



Linda



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea research?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 07:52:22 GMT



In <4v8bjn$8us@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jxbrown@aol.com (JXBrown) writes:



>

><snip>

>> Drug companies spend boucoups

>> $$$ developing drugs which can be patented so they can make money

>>off them.  Unpatentable treatments like herbs make no money.

>><snip>

>

>I just spent $3.95 for a box of herb tea bags and I noticed that

>chamomile eye cream was selling for a mere $22.95.  Where do I get the

>no money kind?

>

>

>=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

>"There is no word in the French language for 'drive up window'."

>      - Garrison Keillor

>=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=



Grow your own chamomile and herbs.  I am not being facetious, I grow my

own echinacea, have grown my own calendula, pick my own St John's Wort,

etc.  I make most of my own tinctures, oils, etc.  Herbal medicine

allows people to be self sufficient.  



Anyhow, your exerpt was taken out of context.  I didn't say herbs were

free, I said drug companies cannot make the large profits off them that

they can off the herbs they find in nature and then synthesize.



Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: celery

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:24:14 GMT



Because it's water content it has diuretic action.This action can in turn have 

an effect on arthritic and rheumatory conditions.Also has some sedative 

action.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: celery

From: Bob Foster <bfoster@blvl.igs.net>

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 11:40:54 -0400



Stephen Jahner wrote:

> 

> Because it's water content it has diuretic action.This action can in turn have

> an effect on arthritic and rheumatory conditions.Also has some sedative

> action.





Penelope Ody, in "The Complete Medicinal Herbal", devotes a full page to

celery. She lists the actions as: antirheumatic, sedative, urinary

antiseptic, increases uric acid secretions, carminative, reduces blood

pressure, some antifungal activity reported. She recommends juicing the

whole plant for  joint and urinary infections, rheumatoid arthritis,

cystitis, urethritis, weak confditions and nervous exhaustion; using the

seeds in an infusion for rheumatoid arthritis and gout; and using root

tincture as a diuretic in hypertension and urinary disorders, as a

component in arthritic remedies, or as a kidney energy stimulant and

cleanser.



An impressive list! Think I'll visit the refrigerator...... 



Bob 



	http://www.blvl.igs.net/~bfoster/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: golden seal

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:29:55 GMT



You might try adding a little myrrh tincture to help with the breakouts.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: help with SO

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:43:09 GMT



Has your physician ruled out necrotizing gingivitis(trench mouth)?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs for panic disorder

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:01:36 GMT



Lemon balm(melissa officinalis) is soothing for this, as well as valerian.Take 

the valerian in capsules,though, it tastes terrible! As a sufferer of this 

condition myself,I found these techniques helpful:

   When you find yourself in a potentially panic inducing situation, try to 

always have an escape route for yourself.For example,if a group of friends is 

going out and invites you along, drive yourself.That way you can leave if you 

feel panicked with no embarassment.Sometimes just knowing you are able to 

escape the situation can prevent an attack.

   There is a technique called the Valsalva maneuver that can slow your heart 

rate.Take a deep breath, hold it, and bear down for a few seconds.As long as 

you have no heart problems or blood pressure problems this can help.

   Panic attacks also make our breathing abnormally fast.When this 

happens,breathe through your nose.You will automatically slow your 

breathing.Above all, remember as long as you've been given a clean bill of 

health by your physician otr naturopath this is not a condition you will die 

from!Even if you feel you're going to pass out,you probably won't,and even if 

you do no harm done,your body will wake up when it has normalized itself.(as 

long as you don't sustain a head injury falling!*smile*)

   Sorry so wordy but I hope these things help

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for panic disorder

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:09:44 -0700



Ok, here's a trickie one.  The throat closes up, the ovula is extended so much it lays 

on the top of the toungue.  Perpetually feels like there is a finger down the throat, 

and the gag reflex is always present.  Drinking water and eating relieve the symptoms 

momentarily.  There is no fever, vomiting, diarreah. The color of the throat is red, 

like it is irritated.  No visibly abnormal yeast growth.



Has any one ever heard or suffered from these symptoms?  Can this be caused from 

stress? could it be a burn caused by reflux?  Any herbs to make it go away?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: solis

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for panic disorder

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:32:39 GMT



In article <321294F8.567E@hevanet.com>, solis <solis@hevanet.com> wrote:

>Ok, here's a trickie one.  The throat closes up, the ovula is extended so 

much it lays 

>on the top of the toungue.  Perpetually feels like there is a finger down the 

throat, 

>and the gag reflex is always present.  Drinking water and eating relieve the 

symptoms 

>momentarily.  There is no fever, vomiting, diarreah. The color of the throat 

is red, 

>like it is irritated.  No visibly abnormal yeast growth.

>

>Has any one ever heard or suffered from these symptoms?  Can this be caused 

from 

>stress? could it be a burn caused by reflux?  Any herbs to make it go away?



Have you seen an ear nose and throat specialist? Are you sure it's your uvula? 

 If you still have your tonsils that could be the problem. Sometimes we have 

to surgically clip the uvula a little, hope that isn't what you need.Please 

consult your physician.In the meantime you could try some relaxing herbs such 

as valerian-several good commercial products.This could help the gag 

response.Let me know what your doc says,alot depends on the specific problem.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for panic disorder

From: blakely <bboling@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 06:08:48 -0500



I have found Kava Kava to be a much more powerful relaxant than 

valerian. I take one dropper full of extract in a cup of sweet juice 

(e.g. orange juice). Kava is very bitter so adding a tablespoon of sugar 

will help kill the taste.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for panic disorder

From: plhowl@aol.com (PLHOWL)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 01:03:31 -0400



I would agree with Kava Kava over Valerian. Valerian is a sedative and

really doesnt work with heart energy the way Kava does. Small doses of

Kava, 30-60 drops good quality tincture will keep a person very calm and

dosage can be increased in frequency as needed in acute situations. Taste

is a problem but it works great.

Patricia Howell

Living With Herbs Institute, Atlanta



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: insect repellent

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:06:21 GMT



You could try sandalwood essential or patchouli.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: insect repellent

From: psilocin12@aol.com (Psilocin12)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:20:12 -0400



My Native American grandfather used to put squash leaves in a blender and

grind them for a bit and then rub the mash on his skin to distribute the

juice. The bugs never bothered him.







Dude, You should have been here yesterday, it was double

overhead!-Psilocin12



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: chamomile hair rinse

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:25:19 GMT



The chamomile will be temporary but depends on how often she washes her hair 

and so on.You can make a strong infusion and mix it with her shampoo so that 

way it can be done the same time she washes her hair.Quassia and marigold also 

lighten hair.

   Tell your daughter I hope this works,from one blond to another!

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: chamomile hair rinse

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 07:53:19 -0400



In article <4utqdg$k96@tkhut.sojourn.com>, sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen

Jahner) writes:



>Quassia and marigold also 

>lighten hair.



Lemon juice and sunshine work well too.  Basically bleaches the hair.



Rosemary

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: skin tags

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:36:00 GMT



This is an 'illegal' method but it works.Tie a ligature snugly around the 

base.You could use a fine nylon filament.This cuts off blood supply.Just be 

careful it's not sso tight that your actual skin discolors.Also if the skin 

tag has changed color,shape or size do not do this but see a dermatologist 

right away.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:43:32 GMT



sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) wrote:



>This is an 'illegal' method but it works.Tie a ligature snugly around the 

>base.You could use a fine nylon filament.This cuts off blood supply.Just be 

>careful it's not sso tight that your actual skin discolors.Also if the skin 

>tag has changed color,shape or size do not do this but see a dermatologist 

>right away.

>Barbara



I have skin tags (I think they are) that come out like skin tags, and

then turn a color to look like a mole. But these are raised up, like

tags...is this cause for concern?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 00:19:32 GMT



In article <4ve4b1$5aq@news.xmission.com>, JWell@cwo.com wrote:

>sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) wrote:

>

>>This is an 'illegal' method but it works.Tie a ligature snugly around the 

>>base.You could use a fine nylon filament.This cuts off blood supply.Just be 

>>careful it's not sso tight that your actual skin discolors.Also if the skin 

>>tag has changed color,shape or size do not do this but see a dermatologist 

>>right away.

>>Barbara

>

>I have skin tags (I think they are) that come out like skin tags, and

>then turn a color to look like a mole. But these are raised up, like

>tags...is this cause for concern?

>



Well, all I know are the warning signs.Besides the ones I already mentioned,A 

very dark blue black color can be ominous.If you have any doubts see your 

doctor,but this may be normal for you.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley <jmcauley@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:05:38 PDT



I believe skin tags are a cause for concern due to their link with colon 

cancer.  If you have skin tags on the outside, you supposedly have polyps 

on the inside.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: solis <solis@hevanet.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:14:24 -0700



Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley wrote:

> 

> I believe skin tags are a cause for concern due to their link with colon

> cancer.  If you have skin tags on the outside, you supposedly have polyps

> on the inside.



This sounds rather suspicious.  Anybody ever hear of this?



Solis



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: Jb@computer.net

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:04:24 GMT



Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley <jmcauley@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> wrote:



>I believe skin tags are a cause for concern due to their link with colon 

>cancer.  If you have skin tags on the outside, you supposedly have polyps 

>on the inside.



Where ever did you hear about a 'link' to colon cancer???? <g> sorry,

I don't buy that.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley <jmcauley@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:08:05 PDT



I posted that there is a proposed link between skin tags and colon 

cancer,based on information from my family doctor a few years back. Another

reference is an article in The Journal of the American Board of Family 

Practice (3,3:175). This article reports that there is statistical 

linkage between skin tags and colon polyps.  It reports that individuals 

under the age of fifty are six times as likely to have colon polyps.

However it should be noted that we should be wary of any reported 

statistics, that they don't apply to all individuals, especially those 

not in the original study.

To make sure that this is absolutely current info, I'll check medline at 

work on monday.  



		Jocelyn McAuley



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: lynchmob@comland.com (Nancy Lynch)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:07:14 -0600



Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley <jmcauley@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> wrote:



>I believe skin tags are a cause for concern due to their link with colon 

>cancer.  If you have skin tags on the outside, you supposedly have polyps 

>on the inside.



My son had what I think were commonly called skin tags, but the doctor

called molluscum contagiousum (sp?).  she defined them as within the wart

family, and advised there was no treatment except time. I did some basic

herbs on them and got rid of them pronto.  Could the skin tags mentioned

here be the same as our "warts"?



Nancy Lynch

The Lynch Mob

end



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: skin tags

From: djondreau@osprey.smcm.edu (Red Chrysler)

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:37:38 GMT



lynchmob@comland.com (Nancy Lynch) spurt forth:



>Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley <jmcauley@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> wrote:





>My son had what I think were commonly called skin tags, but the doctor

>called molluscum contagiousum (sp?).  she defined them as within the wart

>family, and advised there was no treatment except time. I did some basic

>herbs on them and got rid of them pronto.  Could the skin tags mentioned

>here be the same as our "warts"?



>Nancy Lynch

>The Lynch Mob

>end





Yes, "skin tag" is medicalese for warts.  



What herbs did you use to get rid of them?



-dj





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: sore throat

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:51:19 GMT



Well, A doc I work with swears this gargle will dissolve the bacterial cell 

membranes.The vinegar is supposed to kil gram negative and the soda is 

supposed to kill gram positive.(or was it the other way around)Oh, well!You 

know how doctor's are they do no wrong!*smile*



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: sore throat

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:43:26 GMT



In article <4utru7$k96@tkhut.sojourn.com> sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner) writes:

>Path: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news.sojourn.com!ld-nas-042



>Well, A doc I work with swears this gargle will dissolve the bacterial cell 

>membranes.The vinegar is supposed to kil gram negative and the soda is 

>supposed to kill gram positive.(or was it the other way around)Oh, well!You 

>know how doctor's are they do no wrong!*smile*







To some degree the doctor is truthfull, but the gargle can't work on the 

interior of the tonsil which is the site of the infection.  You must be 

careful with sore throats because if it is strep pyrogenes this could cause 

heart valve damage if not properly treated.  Gargles are good for exterior 

purposes and wetting effect.



vipor



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: sore throat

From: seacher@ix.netcom.com(James)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 02:44:21 GMT



When we are sick the doctor is puzzled that we do not have a sore

throat.  I keep telling him that we don't because we drink plenty of

pure water which kepts the bodies fluids of a ph that doesn't burn the

throat as it comes from the nose and down the throat.  Just like baby

when they get diaper rash and burn.  It goes way with enough water.



Thanks Jim







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:07:27 GMT



Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual bleeding

and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 years

old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that exercise

and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help for

the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control pills

for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so I

went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to avoid. 



Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended red

rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received are

Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

(dong quoy?), and skullcap.



What do you all think?



Rachael Hamlet







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: activist@clark.net

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 15 Aug 1996 06:44:16 GMT



If this is a relatively new condition (within the last year esp.) then 

the fact that you're 39 points to this probably being part of 

perimenopause.  



A D&C seems pretty radical at this point.  There are people who've had 

this problem over at alt.support.menopause who probably have some advice.



I only had one flooder going into peri so I really can't say but natural 

progesterone, black (different from blue) cohosh, soy foods like tofu and 

miso, are all possibilites you might want to check out.



Vitex, licorice, and sarsaparilla (smilax) all help too!



About the losing weight - that may be fine and dandy but what's funny is 

there's a rumor that since fat cells "store" (don't know what the actual 

process is) heavy women supposedly easier menos.  



I haven't heard anyone report that weight has helped them in real life 

but people who aren't heavy say it's supposed to help.  Dunno.



Hope you find what you need soon!



Best wishes,



dn



activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet) wrote:

>Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual bleeding

>and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 years

>old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that exercise

>and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help for

>the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control pills

>for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so I

>went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to avoid. 

>

>Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended red

>rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

>this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received are

>Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

>(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

>

>What do you all think?

>

>Rachael Hamlet

>

>

 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: d000634c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Julia F  N  Altshuler)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 12:51:32 GMT



I've heard from one woman on the net who said that acupuncture helped her 

a lot to relieve excessivly heavy periods.  She said it took about four 

months of treatments before it helped.  For myself, acupuncture did 

nothing for my cramps (my periods are light anyway), but Aleve does help 

where other over-the-counter remedies haven't.  I've never heard of any 

connection between so-called overweight and menstrual difficulties.  Are 

you sure this isn't another instance of prejudice against fat people?  

("You're fat; you're sick; lose weight, and you'll feel better.")  Are 

there any women out there who found that heavy flows and cramping 

disappeared when they lost weight?  Ask your doctor if s/he can cite any 

studies showing a connection.  I'm very curious as to the response.



--



d000634c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:58:35 GMT



d000634c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Julia F  N  Altshuler) wrote:



>I've heard from one woman on the net who said that acupuncture helped her 

>a lot to relieve excessivly heavy periods.  She said it took about four 

>months of treatments before it helped.  For myself, acupuncture did 

>nothing for my cramps (my periods are light anyway), but Aleve does help 

>where other over-the-counter remedies haven't.  I've never heard of any 

>connection between so-called overweight and menstrual difficulties.  Are 

>you sure this isn't another instance of prejudice against fat people?  

>("You're fat; you're sick; lose weight, and you'll feel better.")  Are 

>there any women out there who found that heavy flows and cramping 

>disappeared when they lost weight?  Ask your doctor if s/he can cite any 

>studies showing a connection.  I'm very curious as to the response.



Although I don't know of any studies showing that losing weight will alleviate

these symptoms (and goodness knows there are enough other reasons to be

concerned about being sedentary as well as fat), I do feel that this is

logical.  Fat is a resevoir of estrogen, and excess estrogen could explain

excessive buildup of the endometrium and the resulting excess bleeding.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: millerst@cadvision.com (S.J.)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 05:29:03 GMT



Julie,



I just wanted to point out that I usually have bad cramps if I drink a lot of 

caffeine or if I don't excercise. I'm not suggesting being an exercise junky 

but I find that I need at least twice a week of fairly strenuous aerobic 

exercise as well as stretching to feel good. 



I'm not suggesting that their isn't prejudice against overweight people 

in our society, but someone who is excessively overweight may find that 

exercising more not only will lessen their menstrual cramps but that she will 

feel more balanced all around.



Stacy















In article <4uv6gk$16t@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us>, 

d000634c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us says...

>

>I've heard from one woman on the net who said that acupuncture helped her 

>a lot to relieve excessivly heavy periods.  She said it took about four 

>months of treatments before it helped.  For myself, acupuncture did 

>nothing for my cramps (my periods are light anyway), but Aleve does help 

>where other over-the-counter remedies haven't.  I've never heard of any 

>connection between so-called overweight and menstrual difficulties.  Are 

>you sure this isn't another instance of prejudice against fat people?  

>("You're fat; you're sick; lose weight, and you'll feel better.")  Are 

>there any women out there who found that heavy flows and cramping 

>disappeared when they lost weight?  Ask your doctor if s/he can cite any 

>studies showing a connection.  I'm very curious as to the response.

>

>--

>

>d000634c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:11:12 GMT



In article <4uuh00$e7g@news.wco.com>, Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com> wrote:

>If this is a relatively new condition (within the last year esp.) then 

>the fact that you're 39 points to this probably being part of 

>perimenopause.  

>

>A D&C seems pretty radical at this point.  There are people who've had 

>this problem over at alt.support.menopause who probably have some advice.

>

>I only had one flooder going into peri so I really can't say but natural 

>progesterone, black (different from blue) cohosh, soy foods like tofu and 

>miso, are all possibilites you might want to check out.

>

>Vitex, licorice, and sarsaparilla (smilax) all help too!

>

>About the losing weight - that may be fine and dandy but what's funny is 

>there's a rumor that since fat cells "store" (don't know what the actual 

>process is) heavy women supposedly easier menos.  

>

>I haven't heard anyone report that weight has helped them in real life 

>but people who aren't heavy say it's supposed to help.  Dunno.

>

>Hope you find what you need soon!

>

>Best wishes,

>

>dn

>

>activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet) wrote:

>>Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual 

bleeding

>>and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 

years

>>old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that 

exercise

>>and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help 

for

>>the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control pills

>>for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so 

I

>>went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to 

avoid. 

>>

>>Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended 

red

>>rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

>>this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received 

are

>>Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

>>(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

>>

>>What do you all think?

>>

>>Rachael Hamlet

>>

>>

> 

>

Rachel,

   Don't take licorice if you have high blood pressure episodes.It is a 

hypertensive agent,which will raise blood pressure.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: jxbrown@aol.com (JXBrown)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 21:11:18 -0400



> I've never heard of any 

>connection between so-called overweight and menstrual difficulties.  Are 

>you sure this isn't another instance of prejudice against fat people?  

>("You're fat; you're sick; lose weight, and you'll feel better.")  Are 

>there any women out there who found that heavy flows and cramping 

>disappeared when they lost weight?  Ask your doctor if s/he can cite any 

>studies showing a connection.  I'm very curious as to the response.



Estrogen is produced in peripheral body fat (see any gyne or general

physiology textbook).  More fat -> more estrogen -> more endometrial

build-up -> more bleeding.  Obesity is a well known risk factor for

endometrial cancer because an obese woman produces a larger build-up of

endometrium without producing adequate progesterone to balance out the

effect.  Far from being anti-fat prejudice, this problem is actually seen

very commonly in heavy women.  The heavy build-up of endometrium can also

be treated medically with hormones.  Presumably, the woman who posted this

original message has already had an endometrial biopsy.



On the other hand, during menopause a nice chubby butt acts like a built

in estrogen patch!  Vive le chocolat!

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

"There is no word in the French language for 'drive up window'."

      - Garrison Keillor

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Kira <dksc@ccnet.net>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:44:29 -0700



After 33 years of menstrual cramps I have been free of them for the last 

few years. I do it with evening primrose oil. I also have experimented 

some with flax seed oil caps and fish oil caps. They all provide forms of 

essential fatty acids. I now get my fish oil from fish, especially salmon 

one of the highest sources of oil, along with the evening primrose oil 

caps. I do have to say this was/is in conjuction with already taking a 

full range of vitamins and minerals when I started with the oils. Maybe 

it was the missing final ingredient for me.



Kira



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: gprell@deltanet.com (George Prell)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 00:45:47 GMT



In article <4uu0lk$1fe@clarknet.clark.net>, activist@clark.net says...

>

>Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual bleeding

>and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 years

>old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that exercise

>and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help for

>the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control pills

>for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so I

>went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to avoid. 

>

>Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended red

>rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

>this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received are

>Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

>(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

>

>What do you all think?

>

>Rachael Hamlet

>

>



I suggest you get a copy of "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About 

Menopause" a new book by John R. Lee, MD.

Dr. Lee's book is 372 pages (with 96 references from the literature)

and has an excellent description of the female reproductive system 

starting with puberty - the title is really not inclusive enough.  

In his 40 year practice, he found that some women had anovolatory 

cycles due to stress and excess estrogen in pre-menopause. He was 

able to treat PMS and many other bad effects of "estrogen dominance 

syndrome" by having women use non-prescription NATURAL progesterone 

transdermal cream supplements during the later part of their cycle 

when progesterone should be produced by their ovaries after ovulation.

Low progesterone levels were associated with a much higher incidence of 

cancer in a 20 year study done at Johns Hopkins reported in 1981. 

I really can't do this book justice - you have to read it for yourself.

One of the bad effects that is alleviated is excessive bleeding due to

endometriosis.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: sheila bolton <sbolton@frontiernet.net>

Date: 17 Aug 1996 17:37:58 GMT



nursing a baby causes uterine cramping. My periods seem to be heavier when 

I am nursing(3 kids). Maybe you should try weaning your child.  Also, did 

your doctor discuss with you the effect of medications(such as birth 

control or herbal medicines) on a nursing child?  everything that you 

ingest your child does also.  Has your doctor checked you for iron 

deficiency?  That can cause heavier flow as well.  Nursing and anemia can 

go hand in hand, especially if you arent taking vitamins, compounding your 

problem.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 04:21:04 GMT



Boy, does that sound familiar -- I, at the age of 18, was seriously 

considering getting a hysterectomy because of all my menstrual problems.  

The following is a brief rundown of some of the things I've found effective.



HERBS: I take dong quoi tincture daily, and it's worked wonders.  I hardly 

know I have my period anymore.  For cramping and pain, try some of the 

nervine herbs -- valerian, hops, skullcap, passion flower.  They all work to 

relax the muscles.  



You might also look into homeopathy.  I found the remedy Mag. Phos. very 

effective for cramping.  Sepia is another, used mainly for heavy bleeding.



Feel free to contact me directly (at dulcimer@peganet.com) if you'd like me 

to go into more detail.  I hope something helps.



Rima



In article <4uu0lk$1fe@clarknet.clark.net>, activist@clark.net says...

>

>Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual 

bleeding

>and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 

years

>old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that 

exercise

>and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help 

for

>the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control 

pills

>for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so 

I

>went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to 

avoid. 

>

>Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended 

red

>rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

>this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received 

are

>Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

>(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

>

>What do you all think?

>

>Rachael Hamlet

>

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Bella Kinney <bkaldera@us1.channel1.com>

Date: 17 Aug 1996 15:12:06 GMT



   For heavy periods Shepherds Purse is a sovereign bloodstopper, either 

as a tisane or a tincture. It wouln't cure it but it can slow up a heavy 

flow. I made a tincture of Shepherds Purse, Dong Quai, Liferoot, 

Liquorice and Black Cohosh that has been a lifesaver!  





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: lgagne@capecod.net (Lisette Gagne)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 18:55:18 GMT



> In article <4uu0lk$1fe@clarknet.clark.net>, activist@clark.net says...

> >

> >Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual 

> bleeding

> >and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 

> years

> >old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that 

> exercise

> >and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help 

> for

> >the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control 

> pills

> >for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so 

> I

> >went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to 

> avoid. 

> >

> >Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended 

> red

> >rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

> >this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received 

> are

> >Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

> >(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

> >

> >What do you all think?

> >

> >Rachael Hamlet

> >

> >





Rachael- try a little vitamin E- it works for me! Get the all natural

(*mixed tocopherols*) 100 I.U. softgel capsules sold at health food

stores... It is much more effective than the rest. *NatureMost* is the

brand I recommend.

My experience is that just 2 100 I.U. capsules eases cramping, PMS

moodswings and heavy bleeding! I even used this during a first trimester

miscarriage and the bleeding and cramping were minimal. (but the

miscarriage was nonetheless a traumatic experience!)



Breastfeeding is a good way of helping your womb get back into shape after

birthing-- sometimes the cramps are due to the uterus contracting back

into shape (a good thing!) though these cramps can resemble those of

labor.

Breastfeeding triggers certain hormones that cause the uterus to

contract-- it is nature's way of getting the body back into shape! Some

women are affected by this more than others, and weight may be a factor in

it. My cramping was worse when nursing my second child-- I had gained more

weight during that pregnancy than during the first!



If you are still nursing, be very careful what herbs you take because the

child will get them too, through the milk! Not all herbs are recommended

for children and many are absolutely detrimental for young children.



Evening primrose oil can be absorbed by the body through the skin, and I

found that rubbing it on the abdomen was very good for menstrual cramps.

If you have high blood pressure, avoid messing around with most herbs and

avoid any hormone treatments in particular! If you do things right, your

body hormones will adjust themselves (though it may take time)!



The *homeopathic remedy* 'Arnica' is useful for cramping and 'Aconite' is

good for inflammation and some of the symptoms associated with high blood

pressure.

Both of these homeopathic remedies are available in health food stores.



It is said that high blood pressure is a sign of repressed anger

(holistically speaking)...working out (excersizing) and being *assertive*

are good ways to

combat and release anger.



Some of your weight may be water retention-- avoid diuretics (even the

*herbal* types!) because these aggravate blood pressure--another reason to

be cautious of the herbs you take! Holistically speaking, water retention

as other forms of swelling result from accumulated resentment-- again,

assertiveness is the key.

Taking up a creative hobby can be a great outlet for repressed expression.



Avoid junk foods, white flour and refined sugar! Just eat well and you may

loose weight from just choosing the right foods. Sometimes that works.

Also, carbonated beverages tend to contribute to poor skin tone (flab).

If you do excersizes specifically to tone stomach muscles, your cramping

should subside-- weak abdominal muscles often contribute to menstrual

woes.



Good luck!

lgagne@capecod.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Debra Deyette <samsara@rain.org>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:57:36 -0700



Rachel:  I have been experiencing major PMS/pre-menopause symptoms for a

number of years now.  My doc recommended Pro-gest. It's a hormone cream

that is supposed to help balance both your estrogen and progesterone. I

am very overweight, and from my own personal research, it appears that

my problems could stem from an abundance of estrogen -- which is common

when overly fat.  Anyway, I *just* started the cream 3 days ago, so I

can't tell you how it works.  There are a number of people who sell it

and the women's company in Portland that manufactures it has a web site.

However, I purchased it through another source and got it even cheaper.

You can do a search engine on Progest and get some reading

material/sources.  Good luck!  Debra









Lisette Gagne wrote:

> 

> > In article <4uu0lk$1fe@clarknet.clark.net>, activist@clark.net says...

> > >

> > >Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual

> > bleeding

> > >and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4

> > years

> > >old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that

> > exercise

> > >and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help

> > for

> > >the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control

> > pills

> > >for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so

> > I

> > >went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to

> > avoid.

> > >

> > >Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended

> > red

> > >rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

> > >this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received

> > are

> > >Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

> > >(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

> > >

> > >What do you all think?

> > >

> > >Rachael Hamlet

> > >

> > >

> 

> Rachael- try a little vitamin E- it works for me! Get the all natural

> (*mixed tocopherols*) 100 I.U. softgel capsules sold at health food

> stores... It is much more effective than the rest. *NatureMost* is the

> brand I recommend.

> My experience is that just 2 100 I.U. capsules eases cramping, PMS

> moodswings and heavy bleeding! I even used this during a first trimester

> miscarriage and the bleeding and cramping were minimal. (but the

> miscarriage was nonetheless a traumatic experience!)

> 

> Breastfeeding is a good way of helping your womb get back into shape after

> birthing-- sometimes the cramps are due to the uterus contracting back

> into shape (a good thing!) though these cramps can resemble those of

> labor.

> Breastfeeding triggers certain hormones that cause the uterus to

> contract-- it is nature's way of getting the body back into shape! Some

> women are affected by this more than others, and weight may be a factor in

> it. My cramping was worse when nursing my second child-- I had gained more

> weight during that pregnancy than during the first!

> 

> If you are still nursing, be very careful what herbs you take because the

> child will get them too, through the milk! Not all herbs are recommended

> for children and many are absolutely detrimental for young children.

> 

> Evening primrose oil can be absorbed by the body through the skin, and I

> found that rubbing it on the abdomen was very good for menstrual cramps.

> If you have high blood pressure, avoid messing around with most herbs and

> avoid any hormone treatments in particular! If you do things right, your

> body hormones will adjust themselves (though it may take time)!

> 

> The *homeopathic remedy* 'Arnica' is useful for cramping and 'Aconite' is

> good for inflammation and some of the symptoms associated with high blood

> pressure.

> Both of these homeopathic remedies are available in health food stores.

> 

> It is said that high blood pressure is a sign of repressed anger

> (holistically speaking)...working out (excersizing) and being *assertive*

> are good ways to

> combat and release anger.

> 

> Some of your weight may be water retention-- avoid diuretics (even the

> *herbal* types!) because these aggravate blood pressure--another reason to

> be cautious of the herbs you take! Holistically speaking, water retention

> as other forms of swelling result from accumulated resentment-- again,

> assertiveness is the key.

> Taking up a creative hobby can be a great outlet for repressed expression.

> 

> Avoid junk foods, white flour and refined sugar! Just eat well and you may

> loose weight from just choosing the right foods. Sometimes that works.

> Also, carbonated beverages tend to contribute to poor skin tone (flab).

> If you do excersizes specifically to tone stomach muscles, your cramping

> should subside-- weak abdominal muscles often contribute to menstrual

> woes.

> 

> Good luck!

> lgagne@capecod.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: "Lydia S. Boeken, M.D." <dr_boeken@amsterdam-clinic.com>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:23:08 +0100



In article <4uu0lk$1fe@clarknet.clark.net>, "J. Rachael Hamlet"

<activist@clark.net> writes

>Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with excessive menstrual bleeding

>and painful cramping?  I am 39, quite fat, and the mother of one child, 4 years

>old, who is still nursing once or twice a day.  I have been told that exercise

>and losing weight will help, and I am working on that, but what about help for

>the symptoms in the meantime?    My gynecologist gave me birth control pills

>for this problem, which was OK until my blood pressure started to go up, so I

>went off them.  Now she is recommending a D&C, which I'd really like to avoid. 

>

>Some friends have suggested evening primrose oil.   Many have recommended red

>rasperry leaf tea.  Others have suggested blue cohosh (the a.f.h. faq makes

>this sound like a bad bet, though).  Some other suggestions I've received are

>Black Cohosh, Black Haw, Chamomille, wild yam, false unicorn root, dang gui

>(dong quoy?), and skullcap.

>

>What do you all think?

>

>Rachael Hamlet

>

>



Dear Rachael,



Any woman visiting my clinic and suffering from your symptoms, I

routinely check for hidden food sensitivities. These can produce many

diverse complaints, up to and including premenstrual symptoms in

variable degrees. The fact that some women feel better after losing

weight is probably at least partly due to cutting out certain foods

they, unknowingly, were sensitive to. What's more is that cutting out

possibly offending food items often jumpstarts body metabolism, thereby

increasing weight loss. Furthermore, I find the combination of evening

primrose oil and the active form of vitamin B6, pyridoxal-5-phosphate,

50 mg twice daily, very effective.





Lydia S. Boeken, M.D.  London/Amsterdam                              

dr_boeken@amsterdam-clinic.com                   



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: stoneple@sedona.net (Tami)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:46:32 GMT



I've found that taking magnesium suppliments have helped cramping

tremdously!  My moods have been more consitant and my cravings are

minimal.  My cramps are virually non-exsistant.  Just a suggestion.

B.B. Tami









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:24:00 GMT



First, thanks to all who made suggestions.  I have read them all and am doing

further research to help me decide which remedy/ies I should take in my

specific situation.  Which brings me to my next question.  I found the

following information on Michael Moore's web page:



----begin quote-----



*VITEX AGNUS-CASTUS (Chaste Tree Berries, Monk Peppers) SEEDS. Tincture [1:5,

65% alcohol] 30-60 drops. Ground Berries, 1/2 to 1 tspn. in tea, both once in

the morning. As it strengthens the progesterone phase of the estrus cycle, it

usually works best the two weeks before menses.



VITEX AGNUS-CASTUS

  Palpitations in menopause or puberty from corticosteroid imbalances.

  Progesterone or prolactin deficiency.

  Dysmenorrhea, with depressions and lengthy history of PMS; or with

      progesterone deficiency.

  Menopause, basic initial treatment, if Angelica sinensis worsens symptoms.

  Menorrhagia, as a general preventative.

  Premenstrual syndrome (PMS), secondary approach.

  Lactation, poor quality and quantity.



------end quote------



If, as it seems, my problem is excessive estrogen in relationship to the

progesterone in my cycle (remember, I am fat, and fat is a resevoir of

estrogen, and the intensity of my bleeding and cramping seems to indicate too

much estrogen), doesn't vitex seem like the best thing for me to try?



I await the wise words of the Internet herbalists.



Rachael Hamlet











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: boardman@SUNDIAL.NET (CraigBoardman)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:47:23 GMT



In article <4vf2i2$mb8@clarknet.clark.net>,

   activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper) wrote:

>First, thanks to all who made suggestions.  I have read them all and am doing

>further research to help me decide which remedy/ies I should take in my

>specific situation.  Which brings me to my next question.  I found the

>following information on Michael Moore's web page:

>

>----begin quote-----

>

>*VITEX AGNUS-CASTUS (Chaste Tree Berries, Monk Peppers) SEEDS. Tincture [1:5,

>65% alcohol] 30-60 drops. Ground Berries, 1/2 to 1 tspn. in tea, both once in

>the morning. As it strengthens the progesterone phase of the estrus cycle, it

>usually works best the two weeks before menses.

>

>VITEX AGNUS-CASTUS

>  Palpitations in menopause or puberty from corticosteroid imbalances.

>  Progesterone or prolactin deficiency.

>  Dysmenorrhea, with depressions and lengthy history of PMS; or with

>      progesterone deficiency.

>  Menopause, basic initial treatment, if Angelica sinensis worsens symptoms.

>  Menorrhagia, as a general preventative.

>  Premenstrual syndrome (PMS), secondary approach.

>  Lactation, poor quality and quantity.

>

>------end quote------

>

>If, as it seems, my problem is excessive estrogen in relationship to the

>progesterone in my cycle (remember, I am fat, and fat is a resevoir of

>estrogen, and the intensity of my bleeding and cramping seems to indicate too

>much estrogen), doesn't vitex seem like the best thing for me to try?

>

>I await the wise words of the Internet herbalists.

>

>Rachael Hamlet

>

>

>

>

I strongly recommend a NATURAL progesterone. The synthetics won't hack it.

It takes a little more effort to find a natural one that's really natural.

Drop me a line at: 

boardman@sundial.net

and I'll get you some information.

Craig Boardman



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:21:51 GMT



On Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:47:23 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs boardman@SUNDIAL.NET

(CraigBoardman) wrote:

>I strongly recommend a NATURAL progesterone. The synthetics won't hack it.

>It takes a little more effort to find a natural one that's really natural.



We've kind of been thru that on the medicinal herblist. THE ONLY PROGESTERONE

THAT CAN TRULY BE CALLED NATURAL IS THE ONE YOUR BODY PRODUCES.

_ALL_ others are synthetic.



... and you can tell I'm NOT selling this stuff, either ...



Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 25 Aug 1996 21:11:56 GMT



I'm interested in the conclusions the medicinal herb list came to.  I 

think right now we seem to be going through a semantic adjustment in 

terms of hormones.



"Natural" in meno circles means those hormones which are naturally made 

in our bodies but which can be produced in a lab and taken as 

supplements.   I'd really prefer to see the term "native" or 

"endogenous" used for this because "natural" has so many connotations 

that it gets confusing.



Many meno women supplement with what they call "natural estrogens" or 

"natural progesterone" with full understanding that these supplements 

were manufactured in a lab but have the same molecular structure as the 

hormones made by the human body.



How is "natural" used on the medicinal herb list?



Thanks,



dn



HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress) wrote:



>

>We've kind of been thru that on the medicinal herblist. THE ONLY PROGESTERONE

>THAT CAN TRULY BE CALLED NATURAL IS THE ONE YOUR BODY PRODUCES.

>_ALL_ others are synthetic.

>

>... and you can tell I'm NOT selling this stuff, either ...

>

>Henriette

>

>--

>Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

>http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

>      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

>Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:29:44 GMT



On 25 Aug 1996 21:11:56 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs Della Noche

<dnoche@mail.wco.com> wrote:



>I'm interested in the conclusions the medicinal herb list came to.  I 

>think right now we seem to be going through a semantic adjustment in 

>terms of hormones.

>

>"Natural" in meno circles means those hormones which are naturally made 

>in our bodies but which can be produced in a lab and taken as 

>supplements.   I'd really prefer to see the term "native" or 

>"endogenous" used for this because "natural" has so many connotations 

>that it gets confusing.

>

>Many meno women supplement with what they call "natural estrogens" or 

>"natural progesterone" with full understanding that these supplements 

>were manufactured in a lab but have the same molecular structure as the 

>hormones made by the human body.

>

>How is "natural" used on the medicinal herb list?



It's natural if your body makes it; else it is synthetic. My very negative

reaction to ads with 'natural progesterone' comes from folks saying 'natural

progesterone straight from our organically grown rainforest wild yam' or

something equally hysterical - you cannot get progesterone straight from a plant

(wild yam tea, anybody? - no way), you have to go via a lab, so it's synthetic,

not natural. 



Granted, you can have a plant at the starting end of the lab process, instead of

something synthetic, but so what? With all the chemicals used to get

progesterone from the plant you could just as well start with a plastic. Except

that that's probably more expensive... and still synthetic.



Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 27 Aug 1996 02:55:55 GMT



Let's see if I understand you - you don't object to "natural" when 

referring to an extraction but you do object to referring to a 

synthesized chemical as being referred to as "natural".



That certainly makes sense!  Surely a synthesis results in a synthetic. 

;-)



Another question - since wild yam cream has such good effects, what do 

you think the active elements are?  Someone here suggested sapogens - 

isn't that a "generic" term for something in a plant?  Does anybody know 

which ones?



dn



HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress) wrote:

>

>It's natural if your body makes it; else it is synthetic. My very negative

>reaction to ads with 'natural progesterone' comes from folks saying 'natural

>progesterone straight from our organically grown rainforest wild yam' or

>something equally hysterical - you cannot get progesterone straight from a plant

>(wild yam tea, anybody? - no way), you have to go via a lab, so it's synthetic,

>not natural. 

>

>Granted, you can have a plant at the starting end of the lab process, instead of

>something synthetic, but so what? With all the chemicals used to get

>progesterone from the plant you could just as well start with a plastic. Except

>that that's probably more expensive... and still synthetic.

>

>Henriette

>

>--

>Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

>http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

>      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

>Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:31:39 GMT



activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper) wrote:



snip

>----begin quote-----



>*VITEX AGNUS-CASTUS (Chaste Tree Berries, Monk Peppers) SEEDS. Tincture [1:5,

>65% alcohol] 30-60 drops. Ground Berries, 1/2 to 1 tspn. in tea, both once in

>the morning. As it strengthens the progesterone phase of the estrus cycle, it

>usually works best the two weeks before menses.



snip

>If, as it seems, my problem is excessive estrogen in relationship to the

>progesterone in my cycle (remember, I am fat, and fat is a resevoir of

>estrogen, and the intensity of my bleeding and cramping seems to indicate too

>much estrogen), doesn't vitex seem like the best thing for me to try?



Sounds smart Rachel. I have used Crystal Stars' Women's Defense. Or

Crystal Nutrition.  It is a roll on and one container costs $26 and

lasted a year for me.  The original directions said to roll it on in

the morning and at nite from the 13th day after your period to the

23rd day.  The directions don't say that anymore...but that is what

works for me....doesn't help with the pms though...I use black currant

oil or Borage oil for that....both have MUCh higher GLA's than evening

primrose.

email me personally if you have questions.



Janine





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Menstrual Problems (excessive bleeding/cramping)

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 09:36:02 -0700



activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper) wrote:

>Which brings me to my next question.  I found the

>following information on Michael Moore's web page:



> As it strengthens the progesterone phase of the estrus cycle, it

>usually works best the two weeks before menses.



>If, as it seems, my problem is excessive estrogen in relationship to the

>progesterone in my cycle (remember, I am fat, and fat is a resevoir of

>estrogen, and the intensity of my bleeding and cramping seems to indicate too

>much estrogen), doesn't vitex seem like the best thing for me to try?

    Sounds reasonable to me.  Avoid the "I can send you info" people,

because they are selling heavily processed stuff for the benefit of

their pocketbook.

  Vitex has a long history of use, and is cheap at any bulk herb

vendor's store.  I've been using the berries - whack them in a mortar

to crack them and make tea.  Kind of bleah flavor, but a bit of

cinnamon or peppermint covers it.







Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Need Psoriasis help?

From: Greg <gregs@ns.gold-link.com>

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:12:03 -0400



Does anyone have a remedy for mild psoriasis?



thanks



Greg



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need Psoriasis help?

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:15:33 GMT



In article <32129582.1C5B@ns.gold-link.com>,

   Greg <gregs@ns.gold-link.com> wrote:

>Does anyone have a remedy for mild psoriasis?

>

>thanks

>

>Greg



Comfrey, chickweed, or mallow ointments may help.There are several good 

commercial preparations.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need Psoriasis help?

From: kle2@cornell.edu (Karen Edelstein)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:51:08 -0400



The latest super-cure that I have heard for psoriasis/excema ailments is

urine!  I kid you not.  I have heard numerous cases of one's own urine

applied topically (and it must be one's own, not a friend's!) is an ideal

rememdy for a variety of skin problems.  I know of people who are using

this for baby rash on their infant, and for treating itchy scalps.  If you

can get over the taboo element, it may be worth a try.  





In article <32129582.1C5B@ns.gold-link.com>, Greg <gregs@ns.gold-link.com>

wrote:



> Does anyone have a remedy for mild psoriasis?

> 

> thanks

> 

> Greg



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need Psoriasis help?

From: markg@teleport.com (Mark C. Gay)

Date: 22 Aug 1996 03:46:34 GMT





I have had frequent flare ups up what the doctor has described as

Seborea, patchy inflamation and flaking all around my hairline,

eyebrows and mustache.  



In the past I controled it with the typical strong dandruff shampoos

like selsun blue or denorex but I didn't like the harshness and they

didn't work all that well.  



I've accidently discovered something that works great and is not

harsh and doesn't dry out my skin (actually it seems to be great for

the skin and scalp).   It's polysorbate 80, which GNC sells as as

deep scalp cleanser.  I started using it to see if it might do anything

for my receeding hairline.  It was the main ingredient in the "Helsinki 

Formula"  stuff that used to be advertised on TV (at rather ridiculous 

prices).



Since I've started using it I can't say it's done a lot for my hairline

but the scalp problems have almost completely disappeared.  It contains

peppermint oil and niacin as well as the polysorbate 80, and it's 

really rather cheap, about $7.00 for a 12 oz bottle.



It's very thick and syrupy, so you want to thoroughly wet your hair and 

scalp before using it.  The instructions say to leave it on 5 or 10 minutes

before shampooing, but after using it for a while I've discovered that it

seems to cleanse the hair and scalp well enough that just a thourough rinsing

with out using any shampoo at all seems to work just fine. 



BTW, polysorbate 80 is typically used as an emulsifier in both cosmetics

and foods, I'm pretty sure it is totaly nontoxic and safe.  I feel much

more comfortable with it than with the coal tar based medicated shampoos 

I've used in the past, and it leaves you hair in much better condition.



--Mark







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: anyone know about treating psoriasis?

From: bob@smartt.com

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:01:02 GMT



I have psoriasis.  It disappears from time to time but its making a

comeback.  No longer responds to cortisone or topizone cream.

Sunlight used to work (as did fake&bake) but now it seems to only keep

it in check.  Stress seems to make it worse.  



Does anyone have any suggestions?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anyone know about treating psoriasis?

From: Jeffrey Brown <jlbrown@top.monad.net>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:11:17 +0000



bob@smartt.com wrote:

> 

> I have psoriasis.  It disappears from time to time but its making a

> comeback.  No longer responds to cortisone or topizone cream.

> Sunlight used to work (as did fake&bake) but now it seems to only keep

> it in check.  Stress seems to make it worse.

> 

> Does anyone have any suggestions?



Lavender is often used for skin conditions.  It can be used mixed with 

veg. oil. (about 10 drops per 1/2 ounce of veg. oil).  Some people 

prefer to use it in water and spray it on. (about 1 drop per 1 ounce of 

water).......just an idea



Chris



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anyone know about treating psoriasis?

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:33:55 -0500



In article <3212E9B5.3990@top.monad.net>, Jeffrey Brown

<jlbrown@top.monad.net> wrote:



> bob@smartt.com wrote:

> > 

> > I have psoriasis.  It disappears from time to time but its making a

> > comeback.  No longer responds to cortisone or topizone cream.

> > Sunlight used to work (as did fake&bake) but now it seems to only keep

> > it in check.  Stress seems to make it worse.

> > 

> > Does anyone have any suggestions?

> 

> Lavender is often used for skin conditions.  It can be used mixed with 

> veg. oil. (about 10 drops per 1/2 ounce of veg. oil).  Some people 

> prefer to use it in water and spray it on. (about 1 drop per 1 ounce of 

> water).......just an idea

> 

> Chris



How about relieving the stress first. Try some herbal teas or tinctures

that deal with these problems. There are many herbs for the skin that you

can take internally or externally. If your interested e-mail us your

address and we will send you our free catalog. Catherine



-- 

Southernwood Herbals & Gifts

407-729-0104

tm@digital.net



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anyone know about treating psoriasis?

From: Wolfgang Schmidt <wschmidt@awinc.com>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:47:14 -0700



bob@smartt.com wrote:

> 

> I have psoriasis.  It disappears from time to time but its making a

A friend of mine had very good results with a salve from Germany. It was

very highly concentrated Camomile. It was all natural and the colouring

was blue!

I can ask for more information if you are interested .. please email me





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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: also...anyone know about treating psoriasis?

From: Jeffrey Brown <jlbrown@top.monad.net>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:14:59 +0000



Oh yeah...Lavender is also used for stress......(it has many uses)



Chris



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: questions....

From: clemens@bart.nl (Clemens WP Bergenhenegouwen)

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:18:23 GMT



Hello,



I've got a few questions and maybe there's someone who can help me.

First of all I'm looking for the address of a firm called Wise Woman

Herbs.

Secondly, I'm searching for the following products:

- Extract from fresh herbs of black walnut

- Extract from Gentiana cruciata



Thanks very much for your help.

Clemens WP Bergenhenegouwen

emailaddress:clemens@bart.nl

phone:+31-70-3080055

fax  :+31-70-3080784

The Haque  Holland



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: questions....

From: "Richard W. Noble MD" <drdick@aracnet.com>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:49:12 -0700



Clemens WP Bergenhenegouwen wrote:

> 

> Hello,

> 

> I've got a few questions and maybe there's someone who can help me.

> First of all I'm looking for the address of a firm called Wise Woman

> Herbs.





> Thanks very much for your help.

> Clemens WP Bergenhenegouwen

> emailaddress:clemens@bart.nl

> phone:+31-70-3080055

> fax  :+31-70-3080784

> The Haque  Holland





Salud



Wise Woman Herbals

PO Box 279

Creswell, OR.

97426

USA



Phone 541-895-5152





My major source for Pacific NW Medicinal Botanicals.  Sharol Tilgner ND 

operates this company specializing in ethically wildcrafted or 

organically grown herbs.  I have no commercial interest in this company, 

just value their integrity very highly.



Dr Dick

-- 

Richard W. Noble MD

Portland, Oregon



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re:  Witch Hazel

From: HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:18:13 -0700



What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

beauty.



Just Wondering,

HomemakerJ







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: homej@interaccess.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re:  Witch Hazel

From: Tina <tdmodol@pacbell.com>

Date: 15 Aug 1996 17:26:43 GMT



I use it as a facial astringent, after washing my face.  it's gentler 

than other stuff I've tried.  It can also be used for hemmoroids 

(spelling??).





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: hadesburg@aol.com (Hadesburg)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 11:14:19 -0400



witch hazel can also be used to reduce swollen feet and ankles during

pregnancy (or so i have been told) by soaking your feet in it



angela





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Hadesburg <hadesburg@aol.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: Dave Colbert <bigdave@olympus.net>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:03:24 -0700



Hadesburg wrote:

> 

> witch hazel can also be used to reduce swollen feet and ankles during

> pregnancy (or so i have been told) by soaking your feet in it

> 

> angela



    I found witch hazel a most wonderful cooling astringent when I broke 

out in firey hives from an overdose of B-2.

 Caroline



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:25:41 GMT



HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:



>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

>beauty.



---------------------------------------------

Witch Hazel is one of the most familiar of all the herbal medicines.

The distilled extract is made from the roots and twigs of the tree.

The extract is very gentle in action, and helps to soothe minor skin

complaints - bites, stings, bruises, inflammations and minor burns. It

is astringent and hemostatic, good for treating hemorrhoids and

varicose veins.



Tea made from Witch Hazel leaves is astringent, as it is high in

tannic acid content. This makes it good for helping relieve diarrhea.



Herbal Lore: English miners once used the Witch Hazel's forked twigs

as divining rods, to help them discover underground metal. Carried as

an amulet, it helps mend a broken heart.



Hope this helps

Carol

more herb info at www.io.org/~shodan/

-------------



Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: Dave & Colette <lnrplxus@ripco.com>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:06:42 GMT



shodan@io.org wrote:

>HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:

>

>>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always 

>>have a bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish 

>>imagination would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it

>>was for her beauty.



Back in my more wild days if I woke with a hangover (or just really

really tired), cotton balls soaked in witch hazel placed over my

eyes felt SOOOOOOOOO good!  And it doesn't sting your eyes, even 

though there's a little bit of alcohol in it (go figure).



An infusion of the bark shunk my post-partum hemorrhoids like MAJIG

(if you've got hemorrhoids try the actual HERB as opposed to the

drugstore extract; it's way more effective).



Colette (mom to Amy, a beautiful homebirthed 20 m/o)

    (and Jumping Jack who is expected sometime in late December!)



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: (The Boob-Dude)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:19:41 GMT



On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:18:13 -0700, HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com>

wrote:



>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

>beauty.

>

>Just Wondering,

>HomemakerJ

>

>

Could I suggest a visit to my home page, and any questions that follow

I would be happy to answer.



http://members.aol.com/johnlbaker/witch_hazel/witch1.html







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:51:55 GMT



HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:



>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

>beauty.



>Just Wondering,

>HomemakerJ



Try soaking rosemary sprigs/branches w/leaves/needles. LOL...(Just

wanna get it right for all of you!) in the witch hazel...it is

wonderful as astringent...looks awful though..<g>



Jacob's Well







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: nmt@atcon.com (Robin Andre)

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:39:09 GMT



JWell@cwo.com wrote:



>HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:



>>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

>>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

>>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

>>beauty.



>>Just Wondering,

>>HomemakerJ



>Try soaking rosemary sprigs/branches w/leaves/needles. LOL...(Just

>wanna get it right for all of you!) in the witch hazel...it is

>wonderful as astringent...looks awful though..<g>



>Jacob's Well





I understand it is very good as a cure for varicose veins.

You can apply it as a compress to the area.



Robin 







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: jcrrau@primenet.com (James Charles Rau)

Date: 23 Aug 1996 22:18:05 -0700



nmt@atcon.com (Robin Andre) wrote:



>JWell@cwo.com wrote:



>>HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:



>>>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a 

>>>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination 

>>>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her 

>>>beauty.



I use Witch Hazel as an after-shave lotion--helps to sooth the skin

without drying it out.



James





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: Rita Melnick <melnick@stsci.edu>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:43:54 -0400



>>HomemakerJ <homej@interaccess.com> wrote:

> 

> >>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  Grandma used to always have a

> >>bottle on the window sill in the bathroom and my childish imagination

> >>would go wild.  When I asked her about it, she said it was for her

> >>beauty.

> 

> >>Just Wondering,

> >>HomemakerJ

> 

It is excellent for bruises.  Best applied as soon as it occurs (if

possible).

Just swab the bruise.  Helps reduce swelling and bruising (lessens the

area that turns black and blue!)



Rita Melnick



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Witch Hazel

From: Magpie

Date: 29 Aug 1996 13:10:55 GMT





>> >>What are some of the uses for Witch Hazel?  



Response: It make a great astringent.  I used to put it on a cotton ball

and wipe my face with it after I washed my face.  (Using it like a skin

toner.)  My neighbor uses it after he shaves to sooth his face.  It's

refreshing.



Enjoy life, it's too short.

Magpie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Need info. on Lydia Pinkham's

From: "Michael R. Meyers" <mickmeyers@bigfoot.com>

Date: 15 Aug 1996 23:47:13 GMT



Could someone tell me about Lydia Pinkham's or where I could find information

about this herb.  Thanks in advance.  



Mick 



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need info. on Lydia Pinkham's

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 96 23:17:10 GMT



In article <01bb8b03$e160c980$4d659dcc@mick>,

   "Michael R. Meyers" <mickmeyers@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Could someone tell me about Lydia Pinkham's or where I could find information

>about this herb.  Thanks in advance.  

>

>Mick 

>

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>

>Mick,

   This was a tincture of a blend of herbs sold in the early part of this 

century.My grandmother swore by it.I don't think they make it anymore,nor can 

I tell you what was in it,except for, it seems, excessive alcohol! Hmmm,maybe 

that would make you feel better! 

>

>

>

>

>

>



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need info. on Lydia Pinkham's

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 17 Aug 1996 07:28:01 -0700



"Michael R. Meyers" <mickmeyers@bigfoot.com> wrote:



>Could someone tell me about Lydia Pinkham's or where I could find information

>about this herb.  Thanks in advance.  

>Mick 



Mick - 

  It was one of many "tonics" whose effect lay mainly in their high

alcohol content, if not their opium or coca content.  A typical tonic

was the strength of whiskey (40% or more grain alcohol), with herbs

selected for their sensory effect ... cassia or cinchona for

bitterness, cloves or red pepper for a bit of bite, valerian to make

it smell really bad, burnt sugar to make it look strong and dark, and

maybe some opium or coca-leaf extract to give a bit more kick.  Some

used a bit of strychnine (nux vomica?) for extra wallop, or added some

of the cheap hallucinogens like jimson weed.  They were more intended

to slide around the anti-alcohol laws and temperance movement than to

cure anything.

  One old pharmacy text I have, in the course of denouncing the patent

remedies, gives many of the ingredients.  

  Lydia Pinkham's was more successful than the others because she

marketed better.



Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need info. on Lydia Pinkham's

From: jeanb@erinet.com (Jean Brice)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 12:43:42 GMT



In article <01bb8b03$e160c980$4d659dcc@mick>, "Michael R. Meyers"

<mickmeyers@bigfoot.com> wrote:



> Could someone tell me about Lydia Pinkham's or where I could find information

> about this herb.  Thanks in advance.  

> 

> Mick 

> 

>The full name was, I believe, Lydia Pinkham's Viburnum Compound. It was

marketed to help with various gynecological problems. I believe viburnum

is still held to be effective for those complaints. It may have been a

tincture of viburnum with something else (what?) added. 



Jeanie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Bach Remedies Information requested

From: ac505@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Johanna Simpson)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 00:07:37 GMT





Does anyone have a good file on bach flower remedies and also

the name of the bach newsgroup?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for ADD children

From: dajejajo@aol.com (DAJEJAJO)

Date: 15 Aug 1996 20:56:12 -0400



A friend has a 12 year old son with ADD.  She has just taken him off

ritalin (with doctor's okay) and is looking for natural ways to help him

concentrate and control his impulsive behavior.  I am a Shaklee

distributor and already have him on multi-vitamins which are having a good

effect.  Any other ideas?  He also has sensitivities to many foods and

plants (not allergic).



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for ADD children

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 18:32:47 -0400



In article <4v0gvc$7nf@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, dajejajo@aol.com (DAJEJAJO)

writes:



>A friend has a 12 year old son with ADD.  She has just taken him off

>ritalin (with doctor's okay) and is looking for natural ways to help him

>concentrate and control his impulsive behavior. 



Get the book "RITALIN FREE KIDS" by Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman and Robert

Ullman.  They are a pair of homeopathic doctors who have specialized in

this for several years.  Book was published this year by Prima, ISBN

0761507191.  It emphasizes homeopathy, but has some nutritional/herbal

suggestions. It has very detailed case descriptions to help parents match

the homeopathic remedy with their child's constitutional type.  I'm really

impressed by this pair and their work (they've written various articles on

the subject in MOTHERING magazine etc -- so do a library search too!). The

Ullmans have a website at http://www.healthy.net/jrru.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for ADD children

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:04:15 GMT



On 15 Aug 1996 20:56:12 -0400, dajejajo@aol.com (DAJEJAJO) wrote:



>A friend has a 12 year old son with ADD.  She has just taken him off

>ritalin (with doctor's okay) and is looking for natural ways to help him

>concentrate and control his impulsive behavior.  I am a Shaklee

>distributor and already have him on multi-vitamins which are having a good

>effect.  Any other ideas?  He also has sensitivities to many foods and

>plants (not allergic).



Below is a file from my hard disk. Yes, ADD is related to his food

sensitivities, The multi-vitamins help as part of the problem is

malabsorption of nutrients. For more info here are two web pages:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/

  The No Milk Page:      http://www.panix.com/~nomilk/





(1) The following is taken from the "Celiac Sprue" flyer from CSA/USA (Box

31700, Omaha, NE 68131 402-558-0600): "...; personality changes (especially

common in children with sprue; they become unable to concentrate, are

irritable, cranky, and have difficulties with mental alertness and memory

function); can also occur in adults; ..."



(2) The following is from the February 1995 Sprue-nik Press newsletter as

posted to the Celiac Mailing list on 3/8/95. It included Misc. Highlights

from the 1994 American Celiac Society Conference.



"Question (to Alessio Fasano, Pediatric Gastroenterologist, University of

Maryland <afasano@UMABNET.AB.UMD.EDU>): Is there an association between

celiac disease and attention deficit or hyperactivity in children? Yes, but

only for untreated celiacs. Once the child goes on a gluten-free diet,

these problems tend to disappear. A related question: Is there a link

between behavioral problems and celiac disease in children? Once again, the

answer is yes, but only for untreated celiacs. It is the malnutrition that

leads to the problem."



(3) From Gluten Intolerance Group of North America, (Box 23053, Seattle, WA

98102 206-325-6980) - "Gluten-Sensitive Enteropathy: Up-Date for Health

Care Professionals" May, 1992: "Behavioral changes - such as irritability

and inability to concentrate, may be reported in undiagnosed children.

Adults often relate difficulties in short-term memory and

concentration...."



(4) From Coeliac Disease, by Dr. Michael Marsh, Blackwell Scientific

Publications, November 1992. - Chapter 2 (by Jacques Schmitz) - p.30 - "The

effects of the gluten-free diet are most often spectacular, particularly in

toddlers. Behavioural disorders are the first to subside..."



(5) Marsh's book again - Chapter 3 - on CD in adults, written by Peter

Howdle and Monty S. Losowsky. p. 55 - "Psychological changes have also been

widely investigated, but are difficult to quantify. Many patients appear to

be depressed, while others are irritable, morose or difficult to relate

to... Nevertheless, in some case reports, treatment with a gluten-free diet

has resulted in spectacular improvements in mental function." 



(6) From a speech by Ivor D. Hill, MD. Professor of Pediatrics, Duke

University entitled "Clinical Presentation of Celiac Disease in Children"

given on July 14, 1995:



Behavioral Disturbance: Emotional symptoms are common in children with

celiac disease, although they are not often the initial mode of

presentation of this condition. Children with celiac disease have been

described as "extremely irritable, fretful, capricious or peevish. Nothing

seems to please them and although they are quite unlike themself". They

often exhibit features of extreme emotional dependence on their mothers,

frequently clinging to them and showing marked irritability and fretfulness

when separated. In addition, they are often emotionally withdrawn from

their environment, and this withdrawal may even resemble autism. The

association between celiac disease and autism is still a matter of

considerable debate in some circles.



(7) Lisa Lewis, PhD, <lisas@pucc.princeton.edu> has put up an excellent web

page on diet and autism. Explains what is happening with intestinal

permeability, etc. It is 46K of info and I or she can e-mail if one doesn't

have web access.



 http://www.princeton.edu/~lisas/gfpak.html



(8) Dr. Kalle Reichelt <K.L.Reichelt@rh.uio.no>, of the Pediatric Research

Institute in Oslo, Norway has been researching the impact of gluten and

casein intolerance on certain individuals with developmental delays. A

collected set of his articles for the Net has been put up at:



 http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/reichelt.html



The articles include:



1. Intolerance to food proteins

2. Diet and mental disease

3. Diet

4. Gluten, autism and schizophrenia

5. Autism and coeliac disease.

6. Intestinal permeability in schizophrenia

7. Trace amount of protein in milk.

8. Diet and mental disease.

9. ADDHA.

10. Schizophrenia and diet

11. Gluten, casein and behaviour

12. Ear infections, allergy, autism & gluten

13. Behaviour and Gluten

14. Downs syndrome and gut permeability

15. dietary proteins in mothers milk

16. Copious stools.

17. Soy intolerance

18. Concentrated carbohydrates and Hyperkinesia

19. 4 year follow up

20. Food and mental problems

21. Autoimmune states.

22. More On Autism-Gluten relationship

23. Food allergy vs. intolerance, soy and autism.

24. Down.

25. Reintroduction of milk.

26. c/f and g/f diets.

27. Pruning



They are very enlightening, somewhat technical and include many references

to published studies. It is 80K of info and I can easily e-mail it if one

doesn't have web access.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal Laxitive pills

From: mk95528@navix.net (mk95528)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:23:36 GMT



A while back I found an address in a health book to send off for some

herbal laxitives. I have been using them for years now and will not

give them up when nature needs a little assistance. I send off for

friends all the time. 

I have called all around health food stores all over and they don't

carry them. The only source is from the address below.

They taste terrible but work very well. I think because it is from a

famous herbal doctor, it does a lot more too. If anyone is interested,

here is the address and price.



John B. Lust

P.O. Box 404

New York, NY. 10156

$5.00 postage paid

Ours are always mailed from California.



Hope this info can help someone out.



Sincerely;



Margie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal Laxitive pills

From: mk95528@navix.net (mk95528)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:25:21 GMT



They are called Herb No. 3 pills. This seems to be all they sell. I

have asked for a catalogue a few times.



Sincerely;



Margie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs for constipation

From: TUCY51A@prodigy.com (Colotta Hudson)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 09:54:34 GMT



can psyllium be taken for long periods for this?  are there other herbs 

that help with this?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for constipation

From: bozoboy@circus.com (BoZoBoY)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:59:03 GMT



TUCY51A@prodigy.com (Colotta Hudson) wrote:



>can psyllium be taken for long periods for this?  are there other herbs 

>that help with this?

Fig, Flax, Licorice, Olive,Radish,Rhubarb,Basil...etc.

buy this book for additional herbs to use.



"The Herb Book" by John Lust  ( ISBN 0-553-26770-1)

700 page paperback book $5.95  Bantam Books



"The most complete catalog of nature's miracle plants ever published."

Over 2000 listings

   illustrated with over 275 line drawings.



for more info contact;

1(800)223-6834

(212)765-6500

Special Sales Deptment, Bantam Books

666 Fifth Avenue

New York, NY 10103









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Bells Palsey, nerve damage. HELP!

From: Adam  Young <chenoa@cris.com>

Date: 16 Aug 1996 11:38:27 GMT



Does anyone know anything about Bells Palsey? It's frozen the side of my 

face and damaged the nerves. Any good herbal cures for this? Someone 

mentioned 'electroshock' but I dunno... Tired of walking around feeling 

like I just got out of the dentists!!



Thanks, 



Adam Young



pls respond directly.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bells Palsey, nerve damage. HELP!

From: Jinjer <cuncaphe@isd.net>

Date: 16 Aug 96 15:28:20 GMT



The herb that I know of for nerve damage is prickly ash. It is generally 

available as a tincture, but if you live near woods and can grow lilacs, 

there is probably prickly ash in those woods. Use a good plant ID book 

or a living person who has met prickly ash before.



Best of luck.



Jinjer







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: passiflora vs mayapples

From: jgalen@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Joyce Galen)

Date: 16 Aug 1996 15:49:44 GMT



Where passionflowers are indicated, I have been using the passiflora 

 or passionflower vine, a tropical hothouse plant with purple flowers.  

However, I've been 

noticing that the north american may apple, a low growing spring woodland 

plant with white flowers is being discussed as such.



whence comes the confusion, and who can set me straight?



cor ad cor loquitor

jgalen@marauder.millersv.edu  







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: passiflora vs mayapples

From: swift@crl.com (Scott Granholm)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 07:36:07 -0700



Yes, the correct herb for medical use is Passiflora incarnata, which

is virtually the only Passion Flower that grows wild in the S.E.

US. There is one other rare species that grows at the tip of fl,

and in tx, but it in no way looks similar. Thes are called Maypops

or may apples. 



This viriaty of Passiflora contains Harmala alkaloids which are

MAO inhibitors and prevent the brake down of serotonin and 

dopamine(sp) nero transmitters in the brain as well as

having a seditive and tranqualizing effect. Even though

this herb is a mild MAO inhibitor you should not use it

with any other drug that would contradict it's use such

as Prozac.



Check out my home page 



http://www.crl.com/~swift 



for a couple of pictures, and if you need better ones for 

identification e-mail me and I'll mail you some.



What ever you do don't guess as to the type of Passiflora

to use. All others are toxic to some degree.



Take care, Scott



Joyce Galen (jgalen@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote:

: Where passionflowers are indicated, I have been using the passiflora 

:  or passionflower vine, a tropical hothouse plant with purple flowers.  

: However, I've been 

: noticing that the north american may apple, a low growing spring woodland 

: plant with white flowers is being discussed as such.



: whence comes the confusion, and who can set me straight?



: cor ad cor loquitor

: jgalen@marauder.millersv.edu  







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: passiflora vs mayapples

From: swift@crl.com (Scott Granholm)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 08:04:54 -0700



My previous followup may have been a little unclear. It's busy 

here at work and I was rushing..



The Passiflora incarnata *are* known as May Apples or May Pops, *not*

the other rare variety I mentioned.



They are also know as Purple Passion Flower.



Thanks, Scotty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Planting a garden

From: thompson@prysm.net (Rebecca Thompson)

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:32:11 GMT



Hello everyone.



I'm planning to plant a garden in the spring (I'm in Louisiana, USA)

and am trying to decide what to put into it.  I've already decided to

make one part vegetables, and one part herbs then do a border of

flowering plants.  



What I would like is, recommendations on what to plant in ther herb

section.  I would like things that I am likely to use, but are also

safe for animals to eat (we have alot of stray animals living under

our house) or that animals would avoid.  No one in my family has any

medical conditions other than my husband's ADD, so no cues there.

Basically, general purpose herbs.







thompson@prysm.net



"Nothing useless is, or low;

  Each thing in its place is best;

And what seems but idle show  

  Strengthens and supports the rest."

            "The Builders"  HW Longfellow



This message has been sent via email and posted in the appropriate

newsgroup unless I have said otherwise in the message body.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Planting a garden

From: liz@ervose.mv.com (Liz Vose)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 02:44:28 GMT



Hi



Plant some mints but keep them in a container in the ground.  I love my

mints, especially the Chocolate mint, but I didn't know about how terribly

easy they can spread and take over everything.  



The bee balm has been attracting bees all summer long!  This is a neat way

to keep other plants well pollinated.



The oregano comes back year after year and is wonderful if you do a lot of

cooking.



Liz  



In article <4v27ic$mgd@pti.prysm.net>, thompson@prysm.net (Rebecca

Thompson) wrote:



> Hello everyone.

> 

> I'm planning to plant a garden in the spring (I'm in Louisiana, USA)

> and am trying to decide what to put into it.  I've already decided to

> make one part vegetables, and one part herbs then do a border of

> flowering plants.  

> 

> What I would like is, recommendations on what to plant in ther herb

> section.  I would like things that I am likely to use, but are also

> safe for animals to eat (we have alot of stray animals living under

> our house) or that animals would avoid.  No one in my family has any

> medical conditions other than my husband's ADD, so no cues there.

> Basically, general purpose herbs.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Planting a garden

From: joscheier@aol.com (JOSCHEIER)

Date: 30 Aug 1996 08:20:15 -0400



Rebecca, you wrote:



"I'm planning to plant a garden in the spring (I'm in Louisiana, USA)

and am trying to decide what to put into it.  I've already decided to

make one part vegetables, and one part herbs then do a border of

flowering plants."



I guess your biggest challenge will be finding herbs that do well in hot,

humid weather.  When I think of herbs, I think of the lavendars, rosemary,

thymes and sages that are native to low-humidity conditions.  Still I'd be

tempted to try them.



I assume you've chosen a sunny spot, so my suggestions are based on that

assumption.



Are you mostly interested in culinary herbs?  There's fennel (bronze and

green), dill (but don't grow withe fennel- they'll cross-fertilize and

become sterile), basil, oregano, marjoram, chives (lots of choices

including common garden chives and garlic chives), savory (winter and

summer- one is a perennial and the other not), tarragon, chamomile (again,

two different kinds).  Violets and nasturiums are edible, as are rose

hips!  Borage is a neat herb- the flowers are starry blue and can be

frozen in ice cubes or used to decorate soups.  The leaves taste like

celery.  There's also lovage- another celery substitute.  Delicious

tasting.



 If you want to broaden your horizons beyond herbs with culinary

uses,There is Anise Hyssop, the yarrows, echyinacea (purple coneflowers)

hollyhock malvas, tansy, feverfew, all of these can be considered herbs

because they had medicinal uses in the past.  Some may still use them

today! 



I'd be suspicious of any artemesias- they rot for me even in Pittsburgh. 

We have humid summers but nothing like Louisiana!



I'm sure there are herb books that talk about the best plants for the

Southeast.  It would probably be worth a trip to the library.



Jo Scheier

Pittsburgh



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Migraines

From: Janice Slack <jslack@netnet.net>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:21:23 +0000



feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Janice Slack <jslack@netnet.net>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Migraines

From: "W. Schmidt" <wschmidt@awinc.com>

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 01:24:10 -0700



Janice Slack wrote:

> 

> feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines?



"Wolfgang's Oleo Mentha" will kill the pain fast - guaranteed !



Good Luck 

-- 

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

when the world goes crazy and gives you a pain

try   http:/www.jens.com/business/wolfgang

create a good and healthy day !



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Migraines

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 22:14:05 GMT



On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 23:21:23 +0000, Janice Slack <jslack@netnet.net> wrote:



>feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines?



Here's an article that I saved:



From: xpletive@aol.com (Xpletive)

Newsgroups: alt.support.headaches.migraine

Subject: Re: Migraines and Food intolerances/alergies

Date: 2 Mar 1996 00:07:40 -0500



Try at least cutting back on wheat and corn products.

Recently I eliminated these altogether (breastfeeding an infant allergic

to these).

Voila! Migraines have become practically non-existent almost overnight,

after 10+ years of suffering.

Also, as has been mentioned, avoid aspartame/NutraSweet like the plague.

Reducing egg products (whites if not whole egg) can also help.

Eliminating the wheat was pretty tough, but worst of all was corn. You 

just don't realize how much of what we eat/drink has corn products added

to it or used to 'cut' the product (even coffee). Sometimes it's not so

much the caffeine from coffee or sodas that can be triggers as the corn

syrups/chaffs, etc. hidden or otherwise in these that's the killer.

(Ask a chemist what this stuff does to the serotonin levels in the

stomach.)

Good luck!





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Migraines

From: schro@pipeline.com

Date: 18 Aug 1996 03:30:50 GMT



In article <32150273.4D47@netnet.net>, Janice Slack writes: 

 

>feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines? 

> 

 

Can a person get in trouble on the 'net talking about pot as an herb or

remedy? 

 

 

 

 

Just Curious



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Migraines

From: sac56615@saclink1.csus.edu (Judith M. Rudek)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 01:53:09 GMT



: feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines?



I have found that cutting out salt almost entirely helps.

Of course, salt is a big trigger for me.  Caffeine, a common

trigger, is actually a cure for me.



-- Judy





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Migraines

From: email.naturesway@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:04:46 GMT



Janice Slack <jslack@netnet.net> wrote:



>feverfew is one, what else helps eradicate migaines?



I do not have a miracle cure to stop you getting headaches, but we

have developed a natural remedy once you start to get one, it is a

stick which is blended from 13 different essential oils, which when

applied to the forehead,temples etc begins to work almost immediatley.

People who have used the stick have reported that their headaches have

become less frequent but make no claim that this is due to the stick.



how does it work ? well essential oils have been discovered to have

differing properties and blending ones together which provide

differing workings, ie relaxing, detoxifying etc we have a product

that works. essential oils get working very much faster than

conventional drugs because they can get into the skin in less than 30

seconds, To Illustrate this phenomenom aromatherapist  rub the sole of

their  foot with garlic or garlic oil within a few seconds their

breath would smell of garlic.



It is made from a blend of the following



Lemon

Geranium

Lavendel

Real Rose (Expensive)

Bergamot

Rosmary

Wild Chamomille

Real Chamomille (blue)

Petit Grain

Peppermint (piperitae)

Myrh

Calandula tincture (not oil)

Camphor Oil

Natural Menthol Crystals.



Ps. since using it my wife who had headaches every day has seen her

headaches reduce rapidly to two a week and dropping, definatly

something about cleansing the body of drugs etc.



regards  

ANDY & SHARON			NATURE'S WAY	

NATURAL PRODUCTS FOR EVERYDAY USE

LET US HELP YOU MAKE YOUR OWN COSMETICS 				 TEL/FAX (44) (0)116 224 9814



NATURAL REMEDIES FOR HEADPAIN & ACNE. 

visit us at http://www.ark.org/users/naturesway/home.htm 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Vervaine

From: griffith@kendaco.telebyte.com (Suzanne Griffith)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 03:03:37 GMT



Someone recommended blue vervaine to me as a nervine, but I cannot

find much information on it, either in my own herb books or in the NG

FAQ. Please let me know if you have any information on this herb, as I

am in need of a nervine from time to time. If it's a good one, I'll

start growing it. Thanks.

--Suzanne





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Vervaine

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 15:35:44 GMT



In article <4v3cuv$5h1@news.telebyte.net>,

   griffith@kendaco.telebyte.com (Suzanne Griffith) wrote:

>Someone recommended blue vervaine to me as a nervine, but I cannot

>find much information on it, either in my own herb books or in the NG

>FAQ. Please let me know if you have any information on this herb, as I

>am in need of a nervine from time to time. If it's a good one, I'll

>start growing it. Thanks.

>--Suzanne

>

Suzanne,

  It's also a diaphoretic so helps reduce fevers.Use the aerial 

parts.Infusion:1-3 teaspoons of dried herb in 1 cup of boiling water,infuse 

10-15 minutes.Drink three times a day.Tincture:2-4 ml. per day.It combines 

good with passionflower as a nervine.Oh, it's also an expectorant.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re-Liv (sp?)

From: jsmith1@prairienet.org (Jenny Smith)

Date: 17 Aug 1996 04:01:54 GMT





Hi!

  I've been invited to a meeting about "Relive" or whatever it's

called--I should have at least asked how it was spelled! <g>

Anyway, all I know about it is that it's some kind of vitamin and

maybe an herbal-based supplement that seems to do amazing things

for one's health.  Being a nerd, I research just about every-

thing, so I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on this

for me?  Thanks!



--Jenny :)

--

O Great Spirit, help me always to speak the truth quietly,

To listen with an open mind when others speak,

And to remember the peace that may be found in silence.

                              -----Cherokee Prayer



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: jsmith1@prairienet.org

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Re-Liv (sp?)

From: Dave & Colette <lnrplxus@ripco.com>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:18:17 GMT



I admittedly don't know a thing about this product, but I would like

to mention something about 'miracle supplements' in general.  First off,

let me preface this by saying I do a lot of herbal supplements, although

I prefer using the actual herbs (dried or fresh) and making my own

tisanes or infusions; less processing! (And if I can grow it or

harvest it from the wild myself - so much the better!)



That said - no supplement is going to magically transform you!  You

can't replace good nutrition and a balanced life-style!  If you're

a total slug, it can't replace getting a little exercise; if you

eat like crap, it won't be a miracle; if you party non-stop and

abuse your body in general, you'll still have an abused body. In 

addition it certainly can't replace the roughage you would get from

whole grains and fresh/raw (or lightly cooked) fruits and veggies.  It

might fill in a few gaps here and there (but there's no one single

herbal-based pill that's really any better than the others).



The old premise "if it sounds	TOO good to be true, it IS" holds true

even for our sacred herbs.  And the more it's processed (pills and

powders for example) there is much less of a chance that it has 

retained ANY of the divas or spirits that inhabit the plants! (or

whatever that intangible something is that herbs tend to have)



So take what they say at this meeting with a grain of salt, and if they

use high pressure sales techniques BACK WAY OFF!  If it's so darn

fantastic there should be no need to twist your arm or your pocket-

book.

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi



jsmith1@prairienet.org (Jenny Smith) wrote:

>

>Hi!

>  I've been invited to a meeting about "Relive" or whatever it's

>called--I should have at least asked how it was spelled! <g>

>Anyway, all I know about it is that it's some kind of vitamin and

>maybe an herbal-based supplement that seems to do amazing things

>for one's health.  Being a nerd, I research just about every-

>thing, so I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on this

>for me?  Thanks!

>

>--Jenny :)

>--

>O Great Spirit, help me always to speak the truth quietly,

>To listen with an open mind when others speak,

>And to remember the peace that may be found in silence.

>                              -----Cherokee Prayer







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tabernanthe iboga

From: eboka@aol.com (Eboka)

Date: 17 Aug 1996 00:05:05 -0400



http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl



do an alta vista or dejanews search or a medline search for Ibogaine   or

a lycos search or a welbcrawler search - Pick any serch engine or an

excite search    Ibogaine



Ibogaine



                         Ibogaine



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: HELP! need a certain type of aloe!

From: Paula Tefft <PTefft@envirolink.org>

Date: 17 Aug 1996 04:43:19 GMT



i need to find a type of aloe with two things remved, both are the laxative 

type parts of aloe. my partner has ulcerative colitis and this is supposed to 

help his condition.

the things needed removed from the aloe is aloin and aloe-emodin.

ideas to my email?

---

Mooncrow, Pagan and General Oddball

PTefft@envirolink.org







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for Crohn's Disease?

From: gmdesign@ix.netcom.com (GM)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:50:43 GMT







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal FAQ

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 17 Aug 1996 08:01:29 GMT





Where is the FAQ for this newsgroup?  Is this information posted on any

kind of a regular basis?





Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal FAQ

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:20:05 GMT



On 17 Aug 1996 08:01:29 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW

WOODY) wrote:



>Where is the FAQ for this newsgroup?  Is this information posted on any

>kind of a regular basis?



I have just posted the culinary herbfaq. The medicinal herbfaq is due on or

about the 20th each month - can't say yet if it'll be on time or not.

You can also go get both on my web or ftp sites.



Henriette                                                     posted and mailed



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Baffled woman seeks good treatment for acne

From: sfjahn@ix.netcom.com (Sarah Fox Jahn)

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:54:17 GMT





Hi all -- 



I'm a 25 year old woman, who has recently started having a noticeable

acne problem... My skin cleared up very well after puberty, but since

I was 22, it came back to haunt me! Augh!



I'm very pale, and once they go away, they leave red scars, even if I

don't touch them. I'm starting to look like some kind of weird spotted

creature, and I don't much care for it :) 



Foundation covers up the ones on my face, but I don't really feel like

bathing in foundation... ideally, I'd like to not wear foundation

since it feels cloying and gross to me. 

I get them mostly on the left and right side of my chin, my upper back

and shoulders, and lower back. Now that I type that, the back and

shoulder ones might be from sitting in a desk chair 8+ hours a day...

but that's a necessary part of my life unfortunately :)  

 

Soooo, I was wondering what your advice is to clear this up? I don't

use moisturizers, I wash with unscented Dove (going to switch to

no-oil soap like Ivory next) and I use a Neutrogena face wash with 2%

salicylic acid which cut down on them a bit but not hugely. 



I figure acne starts from INSIDE the body, so rubbing a gel on it will

be secondary after I GET the acne... or will help to kill surface

bacteria. I hope that an herb might prevent them showing up at all, by

flushing out toxins (?) and boosting my immune system (would this help

with acne?). 



I'm resigned to the scars I have, but don't want any more :) 



I've heard of the following as helpful: 



bee propolis

cat's claw

pau d'arco 

bue sag 

garlic 

dandelion root or leaf

arctium root 

nettles



I have NO clue what amount to take or how to take the selected herb,

or which one of the multitudes up there would be best. Any guidance is

VERY appreciated!



Sincerely, 

Sarah Jahn









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Baffled woman seeks good treatment for acne

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:28:37 GMT



In article (Sarah Fox Jahn) writes:

>Hi all -- 



>I'm a 25 year old woman, who has recently started having a noticeable

>acne problem... My skin cleared up very well after puberty, but since

>I was 22, it came back to haunt me! Augh!



>I'm very pale, and once they go away, they leave red scars, even if I

>don't touch them. I'm starting to look like some kind of weird spotted

>creature, and I don't much care for it :) 



>Foundation covers up the ones on my face, but I don't really feel like

>bathing in foundation... ideally, I'd like to not wear foundation

>since it feels cloying and gross to me. 

>I get them mostly on the left and right side of my chin, my upper back

>and shoulders, and lower back. Now that I type that, the back and

>shoulder ones might be from sitting in a desk chair 8+ hours a day...

>but that's a necessary part of my life unfortunately :)  

> 

>Soooo, I was wondering what your advice is to clear this up? I don't

>use moisturizers, I wash with unscented Dove (going to switch to

>no-oil soap like Ivory next) and I use a Neutrogena face wash with 2%

>salicylic acid which cut down on them a bit but not hugely. 



>I figure acne starts from INSIDE the body, so rubbing a gel on it will

>be secondary after I GET the acne... or will help to kill surface

>bacteria. I hope that an herb might prevent them showing up at all, by

>flushing out toxins (?) and boosting my immune system (would this help

>with acne?). 



>I'm resigned to the scars I have, but don't want any more :) 



>I've heard of the following as helpful: 



>bee propolis

>cat's claw

>pau d'arco 

>bue sag 

>garlic 

>dandelion root or leaf

>arctium root 

>nettles



>I have NO clue what amount to take or how to take the selected herb,

>or which one of the multitudes up there would be best. Any guidance is

>VERY appreciated!



>Sincerely, 

>Sarah Jahn





Sarah,



I really feel bad for you.  Besides the herbs, I would think about seeing a 

dermatologist.  By what it sounds like from the limited information, you have 

acne vulgaris.  Usually it is caused by an oil loving bacteria that infects 

your sebacious glands.  You may consider trying an antibiotic facial gel 

(Cleocin-T or Benzamycin gel) or take antibiotics (minocycline or 

tetracycline) orally.  You would need to see a dermatologist.  Other remedies 

on the medicinal front include the use of drying agents like Retin-A.  Some 

non-medicinal preventions include washing your face three times a day.  

Protect your face from the sun.  Use non-moisturizing and oil free make-up and 

soaps.  The least amount of make-up you can use will help.  You can also start 

taking lactobacillus acidophilus by pill form or eat more yogurt.  I wish you 

luck.  Let us know how you make out.



vipor  





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Baffled woman seeks good treatment for acne

From: ANNELK <annelk@delphi.com>

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 15:13:04 -0500



vipor <bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

 

>In article (Sarah Fox Jahn) writes:

>>Hi all -- 

>

>>I'm a 25 year old woman, who has recently started having a noticeable

>>acne problem... My skin cleared up very well after puberty, but since

>>I was 22, it came back to haunt me! Augh!

>

>>I'm very pale, and once they go away, they leave red scars, even if I

>>don't touch them. I'm starting to look like some kind of weird spotted

>>creature, and I don't much care for it :) 

 

I am 36 and I have had a similar problem.  Like you, I have been always figured

the best way to deal with it would be to attack the cause from within, and have

been frustrated by the mindset of all the dermatologists I've been to, which is

to treat it with

 Retin A or antibiotics from the outside.

  The number one most effective preventative I found for myself is to avoid all

dairy products, especially cheese. About all I can tolerate without breaking

out is a little low-fat yogurt.  Everyone's system is a little different, and

it might not work for

 you, but the results were dramatic for me.

  Other things that help are: Vitamin A, zinc, echinecea, and goldenseal.

Topical medications that help on the outside include tea tree oil and benzoyl

peroxide. Benzoyl peroxide is strong stuff, so you might just want to use it on

your back and shoulders.

 It will also bleach clothing, so you might want to use it at night and sleep

in an old T-shirt. Also, use a brand that does not contain isopropyl myristate.

Isopropyl myristate is zit food!  I dont know they put it in acned medications.

  Throw away that Dove soap.  As the ads say, "its 1/4 cleansing cream", i.e.,

zit food. I use Neutrogena unscented regular soap, or sometimes Neutrogena acne

soap. Get your face clean, but dont scrub it and don't strip off every last

molecule of oil, beca

use the oil glands will just work overtime to make it up.

  Last, but not least, it seems that acne in post-teenage women may be related

to hormonal imbalances.  I have read that it is more common in women who have

not had children, and that sometimes it clears up when a woman has her first

child. (A pretty dreas

tic remedy!  :)   ).  Taking an estrogen-heavy birth control pill can also

help-- actually it doesn't have to be extremely estrogenic, as long as its

enough to tip one's hormone balace in the right direction. But the pill may

carry its own risks, which mus

t be weighed with its benefits.

  Good luck!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Baffled woman seeks good treatment for acne

From: email.naturesway@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:04:49 GMT



sfjahn@ix.netcom.com (Sarah Fox Jahn) wrote:





>Hi all -- 



>I'm a 25 year old woman, who has recently started having a noticeable

>acne problem... My skin cleared up very well after puberty, but since

>I was 22, it came back to haunt me! Augh!



>I'm very pale, and once they go away, they leave red scars, even if I

>don't touch them. I'm starting to look like some kind of weird spotted

>creature, and I don't much care for it :) 



>Foundation covers up the ones on my face, but I don't really feel like

>bathing in foundation... ideally, I'd like to not wear foundation

>since it feels cloying and gross to me. 

>I get them mostly on the left and right side of my chin, my upper back

>and shoulders, and lower back. Now that I type that, the back and

>shoulder ones might be from sitting in a desk chair 8+ hours a day...

>but that's a necessary part of my life unfortunately :)  

> 

>Soooo, I was wondering what your advice is to clear this up? I don't

>use moisturizers, I wash with unscented Dove (going to switch to

>no-oil soap like Ivory next) and I use a Neutrogena face wash with 2%

>salicylic acid which cut down on them a bit but not hugely. 



>I figure acne starts from INSIDE the body, so rubbing a gel on it will

>be secondary after I GET the acne... or will help to kill surface

>bacteria. I hope that an herb might prevent them showing up at all, by

>flushing out toxins (?) and boosting my immune system (would this help

>with acne?). 



>I'm resigned to the scars I have, but don't want any more :) 



>I've heard of the following as helpful: 



>bee propolis

>cat's claw

>pau d'arco 

>bue sag 

>garlic 

>dandelion root or leaf

>arctium root 

>nettles



>I have NO clue what amount to take or how to take the selected herb,

>or which one of the multitudes up there would be best. Any guidance is

>VERY appreciated!



>Sincerely, 

>Sarah Jahn



Yes you are quite right it does start from inside which is why

essential oils can help, as they are absorbed into the body very

quickly 



with swiss & dutch help we have produced an ACNE STICK, which clears

up acne & pimples on the majority of people very very quickly, one

woman who suffered constantly in our dutch office has written a

testimonial because within three days of starting to use it she was

clear after spending lots and getting nowhere.







it is which is blended from 13 different essential oils, 



how does it work ? well essential oils have been discovered to have

differing properties and blending ones together which provide

differing workings, ie relaxing, detoxifying etc we have a product

that works. essential oils get working very much faster than

conventional drugs because they can get into the skin in less than 30

seconds To Illustrate this phenomenom aromatherapists rub the sole of

their  foot with garlic or garlic oil within a few seconds their

breath would smell of garlic., 



It is made from a blend of the following



Lemon

Geranium

Lavendel

Real Rose (Expensive)

Bergamot

Rosmary

Wild Chamomille

Real Chamomille (blue)

Petit Grain

Peppermint (piperitae)

Myrh

Calandula tincture (not oil)

Camphor Oil

Natural Menthol Crystals.

regards  

ANDY & SHARON			NATURE'S WAY	

NATURAL PRODUCTS FOR EVERYDAY USE

LET US HELP YOU MAKE YOUR OWN COSMETICS 				 TEL/FAX (44) (0)116 224 9814



NATURAL REMEDIES FOR HEADPAIN & ACNE. 

visit us at http://www.ark.org/users/naturesway/home.htm 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Baffled woman seeks good treatment for acne

From: Magpie

Date: 29 Aug 1996 13:17:27 GMT





>>I'm a 25 year old woman, who has recently started having a noticeable

>>acne problem... My skin cleared up very well after puberty, but since

>>I was 22, it came back to haunt me! Augh!



Response: Egg yolk.  It's not an herb, but it works great at getting rid

of pimples and healing scars.  Here's what I do:

1. Wash my face with cold cream.

2. Apply beaten egg yolk.

3. Take a shower and be careful not to get your face wet.

4. After shower is done and I've dried off, remove egg yolk with a

    skin cream, such as Noxema. (I never use soap on my face.)

5. Dry face by blotting with a towel.

6. Put a little toothpast on the pimples to keep the skin clean.

7. Go to sleep.





Good luck,

Magpie



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Smoking w/o Chemicals

From: Bob Foster <bfoster@blvl.igs.net>

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:09:30 -0400



Can't be done.



Basically you're creating a whole soup pot full of chemicals, including

carcinogens, whenever you burn anything, including a steak or autumn

leaves.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: aa798@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Gale McCready)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 01:00:46 GMT



I have had some success with controling my allergies with Bee Pollen, but 

they still bother me from time to time.  I take one pill a day.



I was wondering if I took more would it help with last bit of alllery 

problems I have.  How much is too much.





Gale





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: protect@bright.net (Charles)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:06:17 -0400



In article <4v5pvu$4v5@tribune.usask.ca>, aa798@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Gale

McCready) wrote:



> I have had some success with controling my allergies with Bee Pollen, but 

> they still bother me from time to time.  I take one pill a day.

> 

> I was wondering if I took more would it help with last bit of alllery 

> problems I have.  How much is too much.> 

> Gale





I keep bees. One pill is no tvery much. I take it by the spoonful. Unless

you are allergic to the bee pollen itself, I do not believe you can eat to

much.  As much as it costs, I would think that your biggest problem is

being able to buy enough to eat to much.

Charles



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: Arnold Brod <TeleCom@pop3.cris.com>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:32:23 -0700



Charles wrote:

> 

> In article <4v5pvu$4v5@tribune.usask.ca>, aa798@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Gale

> McCready) wrote:

> 

> > I have had some success with controling my allergies with Bee Pollen, but

> > they still bother me from time to time.  I take one pill a day.

> >

> > I was wondering if I took more would it help with last bit of alllery

> > problems I have.  How much is too much.>

> > Gale

> 

> I keep bees. One pill is no tvery much. I take it by the spoonful. Unless

> you are allergic to the bee pollen itself, I do not believe you can eat to

> much.  As much as it costs, I would think that your biggest problem is

> being able to buy enough to eat to much.

> Charles



The first thing that you want to do is obtain local bee pollen. That will 

make a big difference. Also make sure that the bee pollen is kept in the 

frig. IMO it goes bad.



The second thing is to start by taking only a SMALL AMOUNT. I totally 

disagree with the previous post. Be very carefull. Good bee pollen is 

powerful stuff. You can always work your way up to tablespoons full. Just 

because something is natural does not mean it is without potential 

dangers.



Good Luck

Arnold



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: JWell@cwo.com

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:02:50 GMT



Arnold Brod <TeleCom@pop3.cris.com> wrote:



>Charles wrote:

>> 

snip 

>> > I have had some success with controling my allergies with Bee Pollen, but

>> > they still bother me from time to time.  I take one pill a day.



snip 

>> I keep bees. One pill is no tvery much. I take it by the spoonful. Unless

>> you are allergic to the bee pollen itself, I do not believe you can eat to

>> much.  

snip



>The first thing that you want to do is obtain local bee pollen. That will 

>make a big difference. Also make sure that the bee pollen is kept in the 

>frig. IMO it goes bad.

>The second thing is to start by taking only a SMALL AMOUNT. I totally 

>disagree with the previous post. Be very carefull. Good bee pollen is 

>powerful stuff. You can always work your way up to tablespoons full. Just 

>because something is natural does not mean it is without potential 

>dangers.



NO JOKE! I am allergic to everything..except juniper trees and

chocolate, and chicken. Bee pollen is effective, but watch what you

start with.  When i start it, only a teeny bit makes my throat itch,

and ears, etc. Build up to it. And yes, get local. It makes all the

diff in the world.



J





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: probe13@dfwmm.net (Probe)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 03:35:27 GMT



JWell@cwo.com wrote:



>NO JOKE! I am allergic to everything..except juniper trees and

>chocolate, and chicken. Bee pollen is effective, but watch what you

>start with.  When i start it, only a teeny bit makes my throat itch,

>and ears, etc. Build up to it. And yes, get local. It makes all the

>diff in the world.



It's funny how nobody ever seems to be allergic to chicken.  Otherwise

we wouldn't be able to relate the taste of it to so many different

foods.  Eeeevery thing different tastes like chicken...



Probe









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: Chris Griffin <chris@olive.ece.utexas.edu>

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:08:51 -0500



On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Charles wrote:



> > I have had some success with controling my allergies with Bee Pollen, but 

> > they still bother me from time to time.  I take one pill a day.

> 

> I keep bees. One pill is no tvery much. I take it by the spoonful. Unless

> you are allergic to the bee pollen itself, I do not believe you can eat to

> much.  As much as it costs, I would think that your biggest problem is

> being able to buy enough to eat to much.

> Charles



You might call the Pollen Man,  he sells BEE POLLEN by the pound, and I'm

sure it is much cheaper this way than buying it in PILLS!



His phone number is (503) 254-5968



Good luck!

Chris





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bee Pollen

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 11:07:52 -0400



In article

<Pine.SGI.3.91.960822110717.5330B-100000-100000@olive.ece.utexas.edu>,

Chris Griffin <chris@olive.ece.utexas.edu> writes:



> Unless you are allergic to the bee pollen itself, I do not believe you

can eat to

> much. 



I think I've said this before, but this is a very important point.  If you

have any bee allergies or think that you have any bee allergies, be

careful.  I had a very good friend land himself in the emergency room with

a bee pollen induced asthma attack.  Other people that I've known have

taken it and had great results.  



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Lupus information needed

From: Allan Anslinger <anslingr@kern.com>

Date: 18 Aug 1996 02:25:18 GMT



Would like any natural dietary/herb/nutrition info that would help a 

lupus sufferer.    Is there a lupus newsgroup?? Any and all help is 

appreciated.  Thank you.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Lupus information needed

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 20:42:58 -0400



In article <4v5uue$qvd@ns.kern.com>, Allan Anslinger <anslingr@kern.com>

writes:



>Would like any natural dietary/herb/nutrition info that would help a 

>lupus sufferer. 



There's a fairly good, quick chapter on lupus and dietary/herbal support

in "Prescription For Nutritional Healing" by Balach.  This book is stocked

in every health food store that I go into, so it shouldn't be too hard to

find. Also look through the new books coming out on DHEA because there

have been some recent studies on this hormone and its effect on lupus

(some of the work is being done at Stanford, I believe).



I'd be interested in hearing people's responses to this question also. I

have an aunt who is writing a book about lupus (her daughter has it), and

I've been helping her with the research.  Thanks!



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Lupus information needed

From: CHLCNTR@worldnet.att.net

Date: 22 Aug 1996 22:28:15 GMT



In article <4vdm2i$fno@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

    healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs) wrote:

> 

> In article <4v5uue$qvd@ns.kern.com>, Allan Anslinger <anslingr@kern.com>

> writes:

> >Would like any natural dietary/herb/nutrition info that would help a 

> >lupus sufferer. 



I do hope that you are aware of the work conducted by a team of M.D.s in thee

1920's.  Lupus was formerly called "skin T.B." so don't look for Lupus.

These physicians developed a method whereby 446 out of  450 lupus patientss

walked out of their clinic "free" of Lupus. Only 99% successful!

Contact The Gerson Clinic in CA. at 1-619-472-7450

The methodology was entirely natural.  That is why our modern doc's cannot 

understand or cope with the problem.

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Lupus information needed

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 13:09:31 -0400



In article <840752470.22484@dejanews.com>, CHLCNTR@worldnet.att.net

writes:



>I do hope that you are aware of the work conducted by a team of M.D.s in

thee

>1920's.  [snip]

>Contact The Gerson Clinic in CA. 



Gerson refers to it as "lupus vulgaris" in the writings that I've seen. 

What I'm not sure of (maybe somebody can answer this here) is whether he

is refering to discoid lupus erythematosus (DLE) or systemic lupus

erythematosus (SLE).  It sounds like he is referring to the former as he

is talking about corrections in skin lesions.  Or perhaps he didn't make

distinctions then.



The Gerson diet, which is largely a saltless vegan diet, certainly matches

a lot of good detox diets that I've seen.  It's been modified over the

years by the Gerson Institute, so try to find recent published material. 

For example, Gerson believed strongly in liver juice, which the Gerson

Institute no longer recommends as they believe it is not possible to find

uncontaminated raw liver (pesticides, animal hormones, etc.)  Instead,

they've replaced that portion of the daily regime with carrot juice, two

mg. of desiccated liver tablets, and two tablets of spirulina.



The other major portion of Gerson's treatment was enemas (coffee in

particular), an aspect that has discouraged some people. 



You can usually find the Gerson diet discussed in any book on alternative

cancer treatment.  The treatment is far more detailed than described here,

and it is very interesting reading -- check your local library.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal smoking mixture

From: "C. Jayne Stevens" <gypsyjayne@enterprise.net>

Date: 18 Aug 1996 09:48:14 GMT



While agreeing with Brady Kelly, there are several herbal recipes for

smoking mixtures.  The following mixture is tried and tested - I found it

most helpful when giving up tobacco some years ago.



6 parts Coltsfoot

4 parts Eyebright

2 parts Thyme

2 parts Wild Lettuce

1 part Spearmint

1 part Rosemary



The measure for 'a part' depends on how much you wish to make.  Try a

gram, or a teaspoon, to start off with.



----------------------------------- 

C. Jayne Stevens.

Luton, England.

Gypsy_Jayne@msn.com

gypsyjayne@enterprise.net





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: PSORIASIS    HELP!

From: ogydoggy@aol.com (Ogy doggy)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 06:14:02 -0400



Does anyone have any idias about how to treat psoriasis with herbs that

works ? My son is 19 and has it very bad in the scalp and now in the toe

nails and I fear that the stuff he uses is ot the best thing for his

health even though it is effective ,  and does anyone know about pyrithone

zinc which is the main composition of this product at 0.2%   .. please

help 

   Ogy doggy 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help finding these....

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 15:43:10 GMT



Does anyone know of a mail order source for ambrette seeds(Hibiscus 

moscheutes) and musk root(Ferula sumbul)? For perfumery purposes.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: The Herb Book

From: bozoboy@circus.com (BoZoBoY)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:01:06 GMT





"The Herb Book" by John Lust  ( ISBN 0-553-26770-1)

700 page paperback book $5.95  Bantam Books



"The most complete catalog of nature's miracle plants ever published."

Over 2000 listings

   illustrated with over 275 line drawings.



for more info contact;

1(800)223-6834

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Hibiscus

From: clan.art@tornado.be (Clan  Art)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:04:54 GMT



Hi,



I was wondering...about hibiscus used in tea... when I buy it dried it

is always red. Still there are different colors of hibiscus. Is there

a difference between the kind of hibiscus used in teas & other kinds ?



Thanks,





Keem.







Silence keeps away thiefs of innocence.

				Sakma Devi

------------------------------------------

http://www.tornado.be/~clan.art





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hibiscus

From: aherbst@cibola.net (Anthony Herbst)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:00:11 GMT



On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:04:54 GMT, clan.art@tornado.be (Clan  Art)

wrote:



>I was wondering...about hibiscus used in tea... when I buy it dried it

>is always red. Still there are different colors of hibiscus. Is there

>a difference between the kind of hibiscus used in teas & other kinds ?

>

It is the dried calyx of H. Sabdariffa, not the 'Kenaf' variety grown

for fiber but the shrubby kind grown throughout the warm regions of

the world.  The flowers are a pale pink, and not very large.  The

plants look like dark cotton plants, with deep red stems.



Some medical research has indicated beneficial effects from the

hibiscus tea.  Whatever the benefits, it tastes great with a little

sugar an lemon juice!



Tony Herbst  <aherbst@cibola.net>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pg swollen ankles (was Re: Witch Hazel)

From: lnrplxus@ripco.com (Dave)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:25:57 GMT



Hadesburg (hadesburg@aol.com) wrote:

: witch hazel can also be used to reduce swollen feet and ankles during

: pregnancy (or so i have been told) by soaking your feet in it



While this might help for the short-term, edema (swelling in ankles) is

usually caused by inadequate nutrition (mostly not enough protein and

B-vitamins) while pregnant.  



Sometimes very hot weather or not urinating for long periods or standing

all day on your feed can cause minor edema while pregnant, but if you have

persistent swelling (light squeezing leaves a dent in the skin by your

ankle or in your hand), protein in your urine or your blood pressure goes

up, then it's most likely that you're not eating right.

 

A good book that addresses this is _What Every Pregnant Woman Should Know:

The Truth About Diet and Drugs in Pregnancy_ by Gail Brewer about her 

husband, Tom Brewer MD's work on nutrition and toxemia.  (Edema is one of

the first symptoms of pre-eclampsia or toxemia.)

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Dave <lnrplxus@ripco.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pg swollen ankles (was Re: Witch Hazel)

From: Kent and Kat Dyer <kdyer@nash.tds.net>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:17:17 -0700



It's also possible that they have preeclampsia and need to see a health 

professional!  While some studies have shown that higher protein levels 

help prevent PIH/preeclampsia eating a diet with lower protein levels 

does not cause it!!  Sorry, but being an experimental psych major and 

having had PIH & an induced labor (bp 200/160 at delivery) I always get 

concerned at what people say about this subject, particularly when it 

involves cause and effect.



Kat  mom to Corwyn (3-24-96) & Jennifer (8-10-93)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Saw Palmetto

From: maxfro@aol.com (max)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:59:37 GMT



Saw Palmetto (Sernoa serrulata)



Anybody know any other uses for this besides;

Diuretic, expectorant, and useful for colds, asthma, and bronchitis?



Just read an article on saw palmetto  evaluations for prostate. 

seems dr. are impressed with what it does for the prostate. 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Beedies (Was Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?)

From: lnrplxus@ripco.com (Dave)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:00:29 GMT



My husband smokes Beedie cigarettes from India.  They're rolled in a

palm leaf (beedie is a variety of palm) and don't contain all the 

chemical additives of American cigs (don't stay lit if you stop puffing,

dont' have ADDED nicotine or extra flavor chemicals, etc.). Also, did

you know that filters actually cause you go have less oxygen inhaled

with each puff, b/c of the way your mouth can make a good seal around

a foam filter (as opposed to a hand-rolled cig)?



Anyay, does anyone know any down-sides to Beedies?  I assum they're probably

grown with lots of pesticides, so maybe it ends up being six of one half

dozen of the other?



The other advantage is that we can get them for about $.40 US (or cheaper

when buying a whole carton) per pack!!!!!! (In an Indian grocery store in

the INdian neighborhood in Chicago.)  Also they have a lot less packaging

(just some recyclable paper).  Although b/c they don't have all the pres-

ervatives, they can get stale a little faster than 'regular' cigs.

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi





Brady Kelly (bkelly@icon.co.za) wrote:

: Nikolai Faaland <NIKOLAI@NWLINK.COM> wrote:



: >I wonder if anybody can help me out on this.  I like smoking (as in, the 

: >action of doing it), but I want to be able to do it without the side-effects 

: >that you get from tobacco and mj.  Tobacco is fairly cheap, but is rather 

: >startlingly bad for you.  MJ is great fun, but expensive and I don't always 

: >want to get stoned when I smoke.



: Any smoke inhaled is bad for you, so why you would want to inhale

: smoke as an end in itself is beyond me. I can understand you wanting

: to smoke something healthier than MJ or tobacco in order to relax for

: for some purpose, but to smoke purely for the action of it is in my

: opinion infantile.





--



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.smokers,rec.drugs.cannabis,rec.drugs.misc,alt.drugs,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Beedies (Was Re: Smoking w/o chemicals?)

From: sam@beavis.u-net.com (Sam)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:47:39 GMT



>: Any smoke inhaled is bad for you, so why you would want to inhale

>: smoke as an end in itself is beyond me. I can understand you wanting

>: to smoke something healthier than MJ or tobacco in order to relax for

>: for some purpose, but to smoke purely for the action of it is in my

>: opinion infantile.



I know what he means, though. When I started smoking ganja (I still

don't smoke tobacco) it used to fuck my chest over big time, but now I

can appreciate the taste and feel of warm smoke curling down my throat

and swirling round my lungs. It's enjoyable as much as the stonedness.



I would quite like a slightly-psychoactive but nearly harmless mixture

safe to smoke all day, so I could smoke whenever I wanted and enjoy a

slightly-stoned and generally mellow feeling all day. Plenty of people

smoke 20 or more cigs a day, but I'm not that stupid as to start.



I know stuff like Yuba Gold and the like are supposed to be rubbish

for session-smoking, but is there a really good blend that actually

works and is quite mellow? If there is, d'you know a UK source?



Thank you very much,



Sam.





------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Where am I" - Charlie Chuck.                     sam@beavis.u-net.com

                             http://www.u-net.com/~beavis/renstimp.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Odd menstrual pain

From: sandy@teleport.com (Sandy)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:30:48 -0700



I thought I'd ask here since I've been to two doctors about this and have netted no results yet:  My menstrual flow has lightened up tremendously for about a year now, just three light days and I'm done.  What concerns me is the pain - I'm getting tremendous abdominal pain during my period.  All over abdominal pain, primarily on the right side.  No bad cramping in the uterine area though (I've never had many cramps.)  It's most intense in the upper right abdominal area, around the liver, just under the rib cage.  My right kidney also hurts during my period.



Aspirin/advil doesn't affect it at all.  It hurts during the entire flow, especially if I move quickly or get jostled.  Liver function tests have been done and returned normal.  Doctors have X-rayed the gallbladder, no stones.  I'm 33 years old.  This is an odd problem that an acpuncturist said he could help, but I'd like to get more information from other people who have knowledge of the symptoms.



If anyone has ideas, I'd be glad to hear them - especially from women who've had similar problems.



--Sandy



________________________________________________________



Should we all confess our sins to one another we would

all laugh at one another for our lack of originality.



     --Kahlil Gibran

________________________________________________________

 sandy@teleport.com      http://www.teleport.com/~sandy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Odd menstrual pain

From: schro@pipeline.com

Date: 19 Aug 1996 15:43:37 GMT



In article <sandy-1808961230480001@ip-vanc2-26.teleport.com>, Sandy writes:



 

>I thought I'd ask here since I've been to two doctors about this and have

netted no results yet:  My menstrual flow has lightened up tremendously for

about a year now, just three light days and I'm done.  What concerns me is

the pain - I'm getting tremendous abdominal pain during my period.  All

over abdominal pain, primarily on the right side.  No bad cramping in the

uterine area though (I've never had many cramps.)  It's most intense in the

upper right abdominal area, around the liver, just under the rib cage.  My

right kidney also hurts during my period. 

> 

>Aspirin/advil doesn't affect it at all.  It hurts during the entire flow,

especially if I move quickly or get jostled.  Liver function tests have

been done and returned normal.  Doctors have X-rayed the gallbladder, no

stones.  I'm 33 years old.  This is an odd problem that an acpuncturist

said he could help, but I'd like to get more information from other people

who have knowledge of the symptoms. 

> 

>If anyone has ideas, I'd be glad to hear them - especially from women

who've had similar problems. 

> 

>--Sandy 

> 

>________________________________________________________ 

> 

>Should we all confess our sins to one another we would 

>all laugh at one another for our lack of originality. 

> 

>     --Kahlil Gibran 

>________________________________________________________ 

> sandy@teleport.com      http://www.teleport.com/~sandy 

> 

 

Wow, this is a tough one. Most common problems don't cause pain DURING the

period, but during ovulation or just before your period. If the pain feels

like a ripping or tearing, it could be fibroids (which I have and I'm also

33), but the worst of the pain ends with the start of my period. But if

your cramps are more severe than ever before, they're called secondary

cramps and signal something serious. And exercise helps primary cramps but

worsens the secondary type.  

 

Good luck, 

Laure



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Odd menstrual pain

From: shodan@io.org

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:22:11 GMT



Sounds like you are really suffering.

I suggests that you go to a good gynecologist, to be fully assessed

for, among other things, endometriosis.

Good luck

Carol



Distributor of Chitosan

The natural source fibre that absorbs the fat from the food you eat.

http://www.io.org/~shodan/chitosan.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Odd menstrual pain

From: sandy@teleport.com (Sandy)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:09:16 -0700



In article <4vaped$enu@news1.io.org>, shodan@io.org wrote:



> I suggests that you go to a good gynecologist, to be fully assessed

> for, among other things, endometriosis.

> Good luck



Thank you and the several people who've replied by email and in the newsgroup.  This is such a nice group!  I'll have my doctor check into it.  It's an HMO, I don't have a lot of choice or fast diagnoses there, :(



--Sandy



________________________________________________________



Should we all confess our sins to one another we would

all laugh at one another for our lack of originality.



     --Kahlil Gibran

________________________________________________________

 sandy@teleport.com      http://www.teleport.com/~sandy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Odd menstrual pain

From: mallen6866@aol.com (MAllen6866)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 09:38:03 -0400



In article <sandy-1808961230480001@ip-vanc2-26.teleport.com>,

sandy@teleport.com (Sandy) writes:



>:  My menstrual flow has lightened up tremendously for

>about a year now, just three light days and I'm done.  What concerns me

is

>the pain - I'm getting tremendous abdominal pain during my period.  

>

>.  It hurts during the entire flow,

>especially if I move quickly or get jostled. 

>

>If anyone has ideas, I'd be glad to hear them - especially from women

who've

>had similar problems.

>

>--Sandy



This sounds familiar to me.  Has your gyn dr looked for ovarian cysts

(ultrasound of the abdomen, followed, perhaps, by a laparoscopy)?  My

endometriosis caused multiple cysts which would enlarge, rupture and cause

a "chemical peritonitis" which kept me quite fetal.  My menstrual flow

also decreased.  In fact the pain seemed inversely related to the

bleeding, as if the blodd were flowing into the cysts instead of out of my

system.  My back hurt, my bladder and bowels hurt when I emptied them, and

it hurt as you mention to be jostled.  Check it out.  And good luck.



                                                                         

margie











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: ? - Filtering Herbs from Oil, Alcohol Preps -?

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 18 Aug 1996 19:49:52 GMT



Hi!  I've soaked/let stand wild yam in olive oil and wild yam in vodka 

for about 3 weeks. (2 different jars!)



 I understand that now is the time to strain the herbal material out and 

use the results!  (topical for oil, orally for vodka)



What's the best way to do this filtering?  I was going to run it thru my 

coffee maker's filter using paper coffee filters but now I'm wondering if 

that's the best way.  I've read of using cheese cloth but don't have any 

right on hand (excuses, excuses!) - is it enough of a difference that I 

should use it instead of the paper filters?



Thanks,



dn





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: ? - Filtering Herbs from Oil, Alcohol Preps -?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 08:06:58 GMT



In <4v7s50$9uu@news.wco.com> Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com> writes: 

>

>Hi!  I've soaked/let stand wild yam in olive oil and wild yam in vodka

>for about 3 weeks. (2 different jars!)

> I understand that now is the time to strain the herbal material out

>and use the results!  (topical for oil, orally for vodka)

> What's the best way to do this filtering?  I was going to run it thru

>my coffee maker's filter using paper coffee filters but now I'm

>wondering if that's the best way.  I've read of using cheese cloth

>but don't have any right on hand (excuses, excuses!) - is it enough

>of a difference that I should use it instead of the paper filters?

>

>Thanks,

>

>dn

>



My recommendation would be to use cloth rather than paper.  I have

found these flour sack cloths that I use because they are pretty finely

woven.  If you use cheese cloth, I recommend using several layers.  I

recommend this because you will want to squeeze out as much of the

liquid as you can, and if the holes in the cloth are large then the

fine powder will get through and into your tincture or oil.  Paper

would rip pretty easily.  







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: ? - Filtering Herbs from Oil, Alcohol Preps -?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 04:03:48 GMT



I get the flour sack cloths from a local health food store.  Sometimes

they are there, sometimes not... so I'm not much help there.  They are

supposed to be used for kitchen cloths so you might try looking where

those are sold.



Some more advice on pressing out your tinctures/oils:  A couple days

before you press them out, let them sit, don't shake them up anymore. 

All the herbs will sink to the bottom and you can carefully pour out a

lot of the liquid into another container (but *don't* let any of the

herb pour out too).  This will leave you with a lot less liquid to deal

with.  Then place your cloth into a sieve or colendar and pour the rest

of the tincture or oil into it.  Let it drain out as long as you can

stand it.  Then collect up the ends of the cloth together and start

squeezing gently.  Keep squeezing and twisting harder and harder until

your carpal tunnel acts up and you can't do it anymore <g>.  Then if

you are a truly dedicated herbalist you can just let it sit a while

till your wrists have recovered and try some more!  My herb teacher

said that the *most* medicine is in the last one or two drops you get

out, leaving you with an impossible goal!  



Some people just get presses to deal with this!!



I think some people keep the clear top part separate from the part that

is pressed out, because no matter what kind of filtering device you

use, there will be little specks in it. (In my experience).  Unless of

course you re-filter, which, really now...!  :->



Good luck, happy pressing!!



Meadow





In <4va9he$t3h@news.wco.com> Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com> writes: 

>

>Thanks for the info!  I have read articles that say to be careful 

>squeezing the cloth but now I understand why.

>

>Where do you get your flour sack cloth?

>

>Thanks again!

>

>dn

>

>meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY) wrote:

>>In <4v7s50$9uu@news.wco.com> Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

writes: 

>>>

>>>Hi!  I've soaked/let stand wild yam in olive oil and wild yam in

vodka

>>>for about 3 weeks. (2 different jars!)

>>> I understand that now is the time to strain the herbal material out

>snip

>>> What's the best way to do this filtering? 

>snip

>>>Thanks,

>>>

>>>dn

>>>

>>

>>My recommendation would be to use cloth rather than paper.  I have

>>found these flour sack cloths that I use because they are pretty

finely

>>woven.  If you use cheese cloth, I recommend using several layers.  I

>>recommend this because you will want to squeeze out as much of the

>>liquid as you can, and if the holes in the cloth are large then the

>>fine powder will get through and into your tincture or oil.  Paper

>>would rip pretty easily.  

>>

>>

>

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Insect Bites

From: littlepua@aol.com (Little Pua)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 16:05:12 -0400



I awoke yesterday morning covered with insect bites from something that

must have crawled into bed with me... it is most likely a spider because I

can see the puncture wounds surrounded by large red areas. Can anyone

recommend something for the itching which is driving me crazy? I have

tried aloe and witch hazel which helps for a short while.



thanks,

Little Pua



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Insect Bites

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:27:01 GMT



In article <4v7t1o$3ah@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

   littlepua@aol.com (Little Pua) wrote:

>I awoke yesterday morning covered with insect bites from something that

>must have crawled into bed with me... it is most likely a spider because I

>can see the puncture wounds surrounded by large red areas. Can anyone

>recommend something for the itching which is driving me crazy? I have

>tried aloe and witch hazel which helps for a short while.

>

>thanks,

>Little Pua



You could try a little ground papaya leaf,ground and mixed with water to make 

a paste.Apply it to the bites.Also lavender essential oil may help.Please get 

medical attention if the skin starts looking discolored.If there are any 

poisonous spiders where you are watch the bites carefully.Fluid formation 

and/or discoloration should be treated immediately.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anyone know about?

From: seacher@ix.netcom.com(James)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 20:51:17 GMT



Does anyone know about or hear of "University of Natural Healing, Inc

out of Charlottesville, Va.?



Thanks Jim



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer)

Date: 18 Aug 1996 21:51:09 GMT



Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but annoying) 

moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my general 

health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and a PDR - 

it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is) tainted by 

synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?



Marie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:46:53 GMT



simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer) wrote:



>Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but annoying) 

>moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my general 

>health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

>suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and a PDR - 

>it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

>According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is) tainted by 

>synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?



>Marie



Do you take B-12 supplements...true vegetarians usually have a

defiectance of this vitamin, 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: simca@postoffice.ptd.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 19 Aug 1996 08:23:20 GMT



Yam cream is great for my mood swings.  When my son brought me the jar 

one day I realized I had been yelling a bit and was knocked out that he'd 

made the association between my using the cream and being in a better 

mood.



I knew it but I was surprised that he did.



Since they OTC and run between $12 to $16+ a jar depending on the brand, 

why not try it?



I reduced my Premarin by half and felt much better.



If you don't like it or it doesn't do anything for you you can always 

stop.  No problem!



dn



simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer) wrote:

>Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but annoying) 

>moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my general 

>health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

>suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and a PDR - 

>it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

>According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is) tainted by 

>synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?

>

>Marie

>







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: glenb@xmission.com (Glen L. Bogue)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:34:58 GMT



simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer) wrote:



>Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but annoying) 

>moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my general 

>health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

>suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and a PDR - 

>it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

>According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is) tainted by 

>synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?



>Marie



I have heard that Evening Primrose does wonders for all the symptoms

that go with menopause.  You should be able to find it in your regular

health food store.



Thanks,

Glen Bogue

glenb@xmission.com



----------------------------------------------------------------

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: "p.whitmer" <pwhitmer@bcpl.lib.md.us>

Date: 19 Aug 1996 18:49:04 GMT



Hello,

I have had great success with St. John's Wort, Dong Quai & Black Cohosh. 

All come from the health food store.

Jo Ann



Glen L. Bogue <glenb@xmission.com> wrote in article

<4va1c6$kmm@news.xmission.com>...

> simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer) wrote:

> 

> >Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but annoying)



> >moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my

general 

> >health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

> >suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and a

PDR - 

> >it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

> >According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is)

tainted by 

> >synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?

> 

> >Marie

> 

> I have heard that Evening Primrose does wonders for all the symptoms

> that go with menopause.  You should be able to find it in your regular

> health food store.

> 

> Thanks,

> Glen Bogue

> glenb@xmission.com

> 

> ----------------------------------------------------------------

> Want to know how to lose weight, and feel good at the same time?

> E-mail glenb@xmission.com for more info.  It has worked for me

> and it can work for you.

> 

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 21:47:12 GMT



I got some weird message that I had no permission to talk??? It said

"Aborting" so I don't know if my answer went through or not.



I highly recommend trying Motherwort. It keeps my mood swings away,

works well with the hot flashes and absolutely keeps the night sweats

at bay.



I also recommend picking up a copy of Susun Weed's A Wise Woman Herbal

For The Menopausal Years. This book is GREAT!!



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: Dave & Colette <lnrplxus@ripco.com>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:11:16 GMT







>> simca@postoffice.ptd.net (Terry Sweitzer) wrote:



>> >Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but 

>> >annoying)



>> >moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my

>> >general health and now - the menopause thing. I also use 

>> >homeopathics.  A gyn >suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) 

>> >- I read the insert and a PDR - it's pretty scary.  As well - have 

>> >done alot of reading on wild yam - According to Rodale Institute - 

>> >that too can be (and probably is)tainted by synthetics (although not

>> >labeled as such).  What to do?



Hi Marie.  Lots of foods are high in estrogin -- regular sweet potatoes

contains some, red clover tops (and herb make an infusion or tisane),

soy products.  I think that these foods contain 'precursers' of

estrogen or rather they help your body manufacture it.



Wild Yam root helps (I believe) more with progesterone.  I suppose

it would depend on your source as to whether or not it's contaminated.



I've also heard Motherwort and licorice are recommended for menapausal

women.  I would get the Susun Weed book; I SWEAR by her pregnancy

herbal (that's where I'm at in life)...

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: cadlard@adam.com.au (chris adlard)

Date: 28 Aug 96 00:21:15 GMT



Try 500 mg tablet of Dong Quai twice a day. This is what the Chinese have 

used for thousands of years. It has worked for me - seems to smooth out 

the ups and downs. Available from health food shops.



Chris.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: cadlard@adam.com.au

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 23:50:30 GMT



Did you notice any change in your periods?  Some women on the meno 

mailing list said they didn't care for an effect (more bleeding?) but I 

was never really clear about what the objection was.



I'm now using a mixture that includes dong quai and I'm not sure I notice 

it apart from the black cohosh and licorice in the same mixture.  Hmm.



But it's really hard to tell - one of the problems with "formulas".



dn



cadlard@adam.com.au (chris adlard) wrote:

>Try 500 mg tablet of Dong Quai twice a day. This is what the Chinese have 

>used for thousands of years. It has worked for me - seems to smooth out 

>the ups and downs. Available from health food shops.

>

>Chris.

 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: cadlard@adam.com.au

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 23:50:31 GMT



Did you notice any change in your periods?  Some women on the meno 

mailing list said they didn't care for an effect (more bleeding?) but I 

was never really clear about what the objection was.



I'm now using a mixture that includes dong quai and I'm not sure I notice 

it apart from the black cohosh and licorice in the same mixture.  Hmm.



But it's really hard to tell - one of the problems with "formulas".



dn



cadlard@adam.com.au (chris adlard) wrote:

>Try 500 mg tablet of Dong Quai twice a day. This is what the Chinese have 

>used for thousands of years. It has worked for me - seems to smooth out 

>the ups and downs. Available from health food shops.

>

>Chris.

 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: cadlard@adam.com.au

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 23:50:32 GMT



Did you notice any change in your periods?  Some women on the meno 

mailing list said they didn't care for an effect (more bleeding?) but I 

was never really clear about what the objection was.



I'm now using a mixture that includes dong quai and I'm not sure I notice 

it apart from the black cohosh and licorice in the same mixture.  Hmm.



But it's really hard to tell - one of the problems with "formulas".



dn



cadlard@adam.com.au (chris adlard) wrote:

>Try 500 mg tablet of Dong Quai twice a day. This is what the Chinese have 

>used for thousands of years. It has worked for me - seems to smooth out 

>the ups and downs. Available from health food shops.

>

>Chris.

 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anxiety/mood swings related to menopause

From: brown@quantum.net.au (yanina brown)

Date: 29 Aug 1996 14:34:41 GMT



In article <4v838d$nmb@news2.ptd.net>, simca@postoffice.ptd.net says...

>

>Wondered if anyone could suggest a remedy for my sporadic (but 

annoying) 

>moodswings.  I'm a vegetarian and practice using herbs regarding my 

general 

>health and now - the menopause thing. I also use homeopathics.  A gyn 

>suggested I take Prempro (estrogen/progestin) - I read the insert and 

a PDR - 

>it's pretty scary.  As well - have done alot of reading on wild yam - 

>According to Rodale Institute - that too can be (and probably is) 

tainted by 

>synthetics (although not labeled as such).  What to do?

>

>Marie

>

You could try soya milk. It has a natural hormone, which is said to be 

great for menopause.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: cold prevention

From: <75052.632@compuserve.com>

Date: 18 Aug 1996 22:13:33 GMT





Is anyone aware of herbal medicines that prevent colds?



Sincerely,







Joe



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: cold prevention

From: tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon)

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:43:25 GMT



<75052.632@compuserve.com> wrote:





>Is anyone aware of herbal medicines that prevent colds?



I take 3000 mg of vitamin C (daily) and have not had a cold since

1986...after reading Linus Pauling's book on vitamin C.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: cold prevention

From: td170@aol.com (TD170)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 13:16:16 -0400



try garlic pills every day, and vitamin c



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: cold prevention

From: dulcimer@peganet.com (Rima Olson)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 13:19:08 GMT



Hi, Joe --



The herbs echinacea and goldenseal are particularly effective.



I've found that a product called Re-Zist (the company is Nature's Answer) is 

very good for stopping colds in their tracks.  It's a combination of about 

half a dozen herbal extracts.  Tastes vile, but it works!



After about six months of constant illnesses last winter, I started taking 

echinacea on a daily basis, and I haven't had a cold since -- despite the 

fact that I work in a health food store, and people are always coming up to 

me and saying "What can I take for this terrible -- ACCCHHOOOO!!"  I use the 

Re-Zist whenever I feel a cold coming on, and so far it's managed to stop 

all of the attempts to make me ill!



Best of luck,

Rima







In article <4v84id$qlp@hil-news-svc-6.compuserve.com>, 

75052.632@compuserve.com says...

>

>

>Is anyone aware of herbal medicines that prevent colds?

>

>Sincerely,

>

>

>

>Joe





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 4 Year old Girl has Cance

From: seacher@ix.netcom.com(James)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 00:52:00 GMT



In <163639262.149011035@RedwoodFN.org>

Mary-Margaret_Mastin@RedwoodFN.org (Mary-Margaret Mastin) writes: 

>

>your post is very timely as i was checking in here with the intention

of >posting a request for stories of folks who have had EXPERIENCE with

the >Essiac Tea and or FLOR-Essence tea.  i have two clients who are

motivated to >explore this as they have already explored and

experienced other treatments >that run the full gambit.  yesterday i

picked up a book coincidentally enough >called 'CANADA'S

REMARKABLE...THE essiac report' BY richard THOMAS

>



You might be interested in the Well Being Journal, Vol. III,  NO. 2 -

Spring 1994 *Special Edition* - P.O. BOX 718 ISSAQUAH, WA, 98027-0718

(206)888-9393 - Back issues available.



This issue has a huge write up on the subject.



Thanks Jim 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Re: Starting a herb garden

From: eris@replicant.apana.org.au (Linda Pesudovs)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 14:43:08 +1000



Hi,



I want to start a herb garden for more than just cooking with herbs.  I'm

after some that have medicinal properties as well.



I'm after some ideas on what to grow.  I'd prefer to grow in pots rather

than in the ground as I'm only renting the hose I'm living in.



Linda



-- 

Eris, Princess of the Isles...and GSX750F rider.

GOdH+s+:+g+p?au*a-w+v+C+UL>++++P>++L+>++!3E---N++K-WM+V--poY+t++@

5!jR@G'tvb++D+B?e++u+hfr+++(+)n+x+x+

...Is there a heaven beyond biking?



==========

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.gardens

Subject: Re: Starting a herb garden

From: tgreyzck@ix.netcom.com (G-Man)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:47:20 GMT



eris@replicant.apana.org.au (Linda Pesudovs) wrote:

>I want to start a herb garden for more than just cooking with herbs.  I'm

>after some that have medicinal properties as well.

>

>I'm after some ideas on what to grow.  I'd prefer to grow in pots rather

>than in the ground as I'm only renting the hose I'm living in.

>

>Linda



30 year mortgages on the average hose are now an absolute wash at

7.25% and no points.  Depending on the diameter and length, you may be

able to swing a better deal.  A long term lease is another option, so

don't allow the lender to narrow your choices under pressure.  Make

certain they explain all the faucets of the deal to you, and don't

accept a watered-down agreement.



Don't mind me, I'm all wet.  :-)





tgreyzck@ix.netcom.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for ADD

From: chrdes@bconnex.net

Date: 19 Aug 1996 05:28:53 GMT



Evening Primrose  is helpful.  Some parents of ADD kids swear by it.  I buy it from the drug store in 

combination with vitamin E.    Don't know  how to prepare it from the plant myself.

Cheers.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: need help with ph balancing

From: td170@aol.com (TD170)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 12:33:57 -0400



how can i tell if my body is too acid? what do i take to make it more

alkaline? what foods contribute to an acid state?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Echinacea - how to harvest

From: asheffie@chem10.alleg.edu (Ann Sheffield)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 17:12:24 GMT



The echinacea in my garden is three years old now, and I'd like advice on  

how to harvest/preserve it.  Which parts of the plants should be  

harvested?  Will they keep well dried, or should I make tinctures or  

extracts from the fresh material?  What would a normal dose be of the  

home-grown products?



TIA,



-Ann Sheffield (asheffie@alleg.edu)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea - how to harvest

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 05:01:02 GMT



In <4va79o$dlq@speering.alleg.edu> asheffie@chem10.alleg.edu (Ann

Sheffield) writes: 

>

>The echinacea in my garden is three years old now, and I'd like advice

on  

>how to harvest/preserve it.  Which parts of the plants should be  

>harvested?  Will they keep well dried, or should I make tinctures or  

>extracts from the fresh material?  What would a normal dose be of the 

>home-grown products?

>

>TIA,

>

>-Ann Sheffield (asheffie@alleg.edu)



You can use the stem, leaf, flower, seed, and root.  The rule for

harvesting is to take each one when it's at it's prime.  So harvest

flower, stem and leaf in mid summer; root (like all roots) in fall

(after foliage is dead) or spring (before foliage starts up); and seed

in fall when they are ripe.  I don't usually use flowers because I save

them for the seeds.  



Dry them out of the sun.  I don't know how long they last dried,

because I tincture them.  The dose I take of tincture is a dropper full

every 2-3 hours.  That's probably a measuring teaspoon.  



Good luck!



Meadow



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: [Request] Help on making tintcures?

From: swift@crl.com (Scott Granholm)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 11:16:02 -0700



I would like to make some tinctures, but never have. Could someone

be so nice as to give me a little rundown on how? I know they 

are generaly cooked in a grain alcohol/water mixture, but that's

about all I know.



Thanks for the help..



Scotty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: [Request] Help on making tintcures?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 04:47:19 GMT



In <4vab12$11h@crl13.crl.com> swift@crl.com (Scott Granholm) writes: 

>

>I would like to make some tinctures, but never have. Could someone

>be so nice as to give me a little rundown on how? I know they 

>are generaly cooked in a grain alcohol/water mixture, but that's

>about all I know.

>

>Thanks for the help..

>

>Scotty



I'm willing to give this a shot but I must give at least one or two

disclaimers right off the start.  I learned very informally, so how I

make tinctures may be unorthodox.  It certainly is imprecise.  You will

not know what strength you have when you're finished, but that's hard

to know with home made herbal stuff anyway.  



Secondly, it really depends to some extent on the herb you are

tincturing.  I will use echinacea as an example.  The main thing you

need to find out is what alcohol/water proportion to use.  Some you use

50/50, some 70/30, etc. 



After I harvest the herb I let it sit in a dark place for a day or two

to get rid of some of the moisture.  I take the herb and chop it up

small, as small as I can.  Then I put the herb into my blender and

*just* cover it with my alcohol/water mix.  For Echinacea I use 50/50,

the same as vodka.  Turn on the blender low, and chop up the stuff a

bit more.  This is the tricky part to explain.  You have to listen to

the blender, and when it sounds like it can't deal with the amount of

herb, add more vodka.  I mean, it begins to sound like it's grinding

too much.  Don't add much more vodka, do it slowly, and speed up the

blender.  When you're done your jar of tincture should have herb coming

up 1/3-1/2 the way up as far as the liquid.  You have to turn the

blender off and let it sit a bit to see this.  Also, the herb should be

really chopped into tiny particles.





    |               |

    |               |

    |_______________| -- top of liquid

    |               |

    |               |

    |               |

    |               |

    |_______________| -- top of herb particles (or more)

    |               |

    |               |

    |_______________|





Let the blender run a little while because you want the herb to really

get broken down into small pieces.  On the other hand the tincture gets

kind of warm and I wonder if some of the alcohol might evaporate.  So I

keep the lid on tightly.  So don't get too carried away.



Pour the mixture into a bottle or jar that you can seal well.  I use

canning jars.  Put the jar somewhere where you spend time, like the

kitchen, but keep it out of the sun.  You should shake it up at least

once a day, I try to do it more often than that, like whenever I see

it.  The idea is to let the vodka really get to those herb particles to

pull out the medicine. 



The amount of time you wait is up to you, I sometimes let them sit for

years till I need them.  A few weeks is probably average, and you can

use it the next day if you want.  The color of the vodka should start

to change immediately.  



Other ways I've made tinctures: buy dried echinacea root at the herb

store.  Grind it up in my (very clean) ex-coffee grinder.  Put ground

herb into jar, add vodka.  



I just posted how to strain this stuff out, so see there.  ("Filtering

oil"). 



I hope this helps, I hope it makes sense!  Have fun!





Meadow







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: MAX@mailserv.realtime.com

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Dead Doctors tape & Kitchen Sinks MLMs

From: Paul Anacker <anacker@fishnet.net>

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:50:01 -0700



MAX@mailserv.realtime.com wrote:

> 

> A friend of mine who is heavy on research has told me that colloidal

> products, regardless of their active ingredients, (Cat's Claw, minerals,

> melatonin, etc.) when they come into contact with the highly acid

> condition in the stomach, that they become "uncolloidalized" immediately

> and the active ingredients (nutrients) fall out of suspension because of

> the radical adjustment in the ph of the colloidal solution. They then

> just take on the status of tiny particles of nutients with no better

> capacity of complete gut absorption as their larger encapsulated brothers

> and sisters.  Does anyone have any hard facts to support this claim.  If

> its true,  the gigabucks in sales from colloidal products,  particularly

> in the MLM industry where they are selling everything colloidal but the

> kitchen sink,  



Wait a second there bucko!  We've got kitchen sinks here too and a MAKE

MONEY FAST super BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY for you, your relatives and friends.

Free enrollment and a double-binary helix food matrix complex that can

eventually bring you millions of buckaroos each and every month.  I won't

go into all the fantastic details and opportunities here, but just email.....



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Fertility

From: hunterm@cybersurf.net (discovery.cybersurfer)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:24:44 GMT



We have been having a fertility problem (male factor - immunology) and

am preparing to go through a cycle of IVF.



I am wondering if there are any herbs which might help to prepare my

body for pregnancy?



Dang Quei was recommended to me?



Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help needed

From: "Morne' " <mdup@ilink.nis.za>

Date: 19 Aug 1996 23:24:13 GMT



What can a person take to remedy severe GOUT in the feet and knees

-- 

SOON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                                  >>>>>>>>>>>>>

                                               mdup@ilink.nis.za



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help needed

From: <dream.weaver@magusbooks.com>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:10:34 -0600



SP>I'm a reenacter, portraying an herbwife in 17th century Scotland, and am

SP>interested in anything, stories, information, etc. that anyone is

SP>willing to share.  How did people do things then?  I'm familiar with a

SP>lot of usages of herbs currently, and dating back to the days of

SP>Victoria, but my books don't go back much farther.  If anyone has any

SP>knowledge or suggestions on books, please pass them along.  I'll be

SP>grateful, and probably won't inadvertently poison a fellow reenactor.

SP>Thanks!



Hi Spot,



I know of a series of books about Scotland, but they relate to the early

to mid 1700's.  They are fiction, but well written.  The author is Diana

Gabaldon.  The books, in order, are:  Outlander; Dragonfly in Amber and

Voyager.



The premise of the first book is a young couple on a second honeymoon

after WWII, visit Scotland to do some geneological research.  She was a

nurse in the war.  While he is doing research, she is researching local

herbal folklore.  Inadvertanly, she wanders into a circle of standing

stones and is thrown back in time to just before the second Jacobite

uprising.



She's 'rescued' by a group of Scot raiders.  With her experience in

nursing, she is able to treat some rather serious injuries received by

one of them.  They are afraid that she's an English spy and return to

manor with her.  While planning her escape, she takes the opportunity to

learn more about herbs and 18th century medicine (it gives her a valued

place in the manor).  I found the books especially fascinating in light

of my own interest in herbology.



Ms. Gabaldon really researched her topic well and did an exemplary job

of writing the stories.  They are among my favorites.



Happy reading,

Dream Weaver

Magus Online!  http://www.magusbooks.com Telnet:magusbooks.com   



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: bloodwort paste

From: pris@ionet.net (Pris Yotter)

Date: 20 Aug 1996 00:30:36 GMT



Can anyone tell me where I might buy some bloodwort paste?  And has anyone

ever used the above for any medicinal purpose?  Thanks.  Pris



-- 

"Teach only love, for that is what you are."



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Warts Removal

From: xfilon@ix.netcom.com(Katherine Filon )

Date: 20 Aug 1996 00:45:07 GMT



I have read that garlic applied to a wart will dissolve the wart (over

time).  Does anyone have any experience with this?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Warts Removal

From: Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:45:55 -0400



Katherine Filon wrote:

> 

> I have read that garlic applied to a wart will dissolve the wart (over

> time).  Does anyone have any experience with this?





I'm not sure--sounds likely--but you might try lemon juice.  Put fresh

lemon juice on a bandaid and keep it on for a week or so.  It works like

a charm.



Dazazel



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Warts Removal

From: lynchmob@comland.com (Nancy Lynch)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:47:00 -0600





>Katherine Filon wrote:

>> 

>> I have read that garlic applied to a wart will dissolve the wart (over

>> time).  Does anyone have any experience with this?

>

>I'm not sure--sounds likely--but you might try lemon juice.  Put fresh

>lemon juice on a bandaid and keep it on for a week or so.  It works like

>a charm.

>>Dazazel



Hah -- see my post on Skin Tags, but the combination I used to get rid of

those ugly nasty things really quickly was mullein/garlic, echinacea,

thyme, and thuga.  Good luck.

Nancy



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Warts Removal

From: "Eva Z. Bem" <ewa@staff.cs.usyd.edu>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:28:05 +1000



Katherine Filon wrote:

> 

> I have read that garlic applied to a wart will dissolve the wart (over

> time).  Does anyone have any experience with this?



No, but thuja ointment works (applied twice a day).



Eva



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal Alternative to tobacco

From: drgonmarsh@aol.com (DRGONMARSH)

Date: 19 Aug 1996 21:42:06 -0400



just what you want to switch to. From one nasty habit to another. instead

of ashtrayface to spit can sitting around all the time. Try to come up

with something better.       Been there ,done that......    DM



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Papaya Seed?

From: brownm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BROWN  MARGARET SAXON)

Date: 20 Aug 96 02:10:41 GMT



   I have a friend who is a frequent urinator- she does not have a bladder

or kidney infection, she just "goes" alot.



  Another friend told her to try Papaya Seed for this- 



  Since I consider this group to be the best source of info I have

available to me, I ask: Papaya Seed?  Whadda ya know?







-- 

*Saxon Brown                        *

*Department of EPO Biology          *

*University of Colorado at Boulder  *

*brownm@rintintin.colorado.edu      *



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: What can I send a friend?

From: packrat@earthlink.net

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:44:34 -0400



I have a friend, who is an herbalist, that is going in to the hospital for some surgery. Does anyone know any 

medicinal herb plants which a florist would carry and be able to deliver to him?



Please reply e-mail.

Thanks in advance.

packrat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Yohimbe extract

From: tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 03:40:08 GMT



Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

I bought a bottle of 1500 mg tablets at GNC.

A friend at the gym said that it supposed to build up your muscles.

I've noticed an interesting side effect, my penis stays erected longer



for some peculiar reason even after ejaculation, my girlfriend isn't

complaining as must either. any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, I am just trying to get an opinion on

this matter.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 00:09:20 GMT



In article <4vbc9f$1i4@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

   tachyon @particle.net (Tachyon) wrote:

>Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

>I bought a bottle of 1500 mg tablets at GNC.

>A friend at the gym said that it supposed to build up your muscles.

>I've noticed an interesting side effect, my penis stays erected longer

>

>for some peculiar reason even after ejaculation, my girlfriend isn't

>complaining as must either. any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

>Hope I haven't offended anyone, I am just trying to get an opinion on

>this matter.

>

>

Hello,

   Yohimbe has been used for centuries as an aphrodesiac.Currently it's 

available as a prescription med, urologists use it for their impotent 

patients.





if you have high blood pressure or kidney problems,don't take this herb.It 

also can give you a slight case of nightblindness since it acts as a 

mydriatic(constricts pupils).As for taking it to build muscles,this is not an 

appropriate use of this drug.Weight training would be better!

Good luck,Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: Chickengrrl <smw1@axe.humboldt.edu>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:03:48 -0700



I read once that Yohimbe works by causing inflammation of the urinary 

tract.  It seems to me that this would cause a feeling of urgency to 

urinate.  In men, this causes erections.  I don't know if any of this is 

true.  Do you notice this side effect?

BrewWard



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: tm@digital.net

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:38:04 -0500



In article <4vbc9f$1i4@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, tachyon

@particle.net (Tachyon) wrote:



> Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

> I bought a bottle of 1500 mg tablets at GNC.

> A friend at the gym said that it supposed to build up your muscles.

> I've noticed an interesting side effect, my penis stays erected longer

> 

> for some peculiar reason even after ejaculation, my girlfriend isn't

> complaining as must either. any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

> Hope I haven't offended anyone, I am just trying to get an opinion on

> this matter.



So you discovered Yohimbe? Well I will tell you what yohimbe is. It is an

herb from West Africa and yes it is suppose to have natural steroid

properties But what it is really used for is impotency. Hence the extra

pleasure you have been experiencing. I have a few of my customers on

Yohimbe and I, a female, have taken it myself to see what it does. It

relaxes the entire body but women seem to relax too much and fall alseep.

The men though, relax and the blood rushes to the penial area allowing the

male to have an erection for an hour to 3 hours. The only draw back to

Yohimbe, and please use caution, is that if you are on any cardiac

medicine or have heart problems this herb can be fatal. We carry the herb

in powdered form and make a tincture from it but once again if your just

looking for an aphrodisiac for fun remember that is how herbal ecstacy got

such a bad name. The herbs in ecstacy are important for other ailments and

now everyone wants them taken off the market. Like pharmacuticals we can

not abuse herbs because they do help people with common ailments. Please

do not take this herb often it is not a tonic herb it is for a specific

problem.



Catherine



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407-729-0104

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:41:32 GMT



On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:38:04 -0500, in alt.folklore.herbs tm@digital.net wrote:



>In article <4vbc9f$1i4@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, tachyon

>@particle.net (Tachyon) wrote:

>

>> Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

(snip)

>

>So you discovered Yohimbe? Well I will tell you what yohimbe is. It is an

>herb from West Africa and yes it is suppose to have natural steroid

>properties But what it is really used for is impotency. Hence the extra

>pleasure you have been experiencing. I have a few of my customers on

(snip)



Sorry to be so negative, but I think above is complete bull.



To get some better information on yohimbe read the entry in the medicinal

herbfaq; or download the herbal-medical contraindications from Michael Moore's

website(mirrored in my ftp space) (go for the manuals) and look up yohimbe

there.



Can you tell I _don't_ sell yohimbe? 



Henriette



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: marty <marty@aros.net>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:04:25 +0200



Henriette Kress wrote:

> 

> On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:38:04 -0500, in alt.folklore.herbs tm@digital.net wrote:

> 

> >In article <4vbc9f$1i4@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, tachyon

> >@particle.net (Tachyon) wrote:

> >

> >> Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

> (snip)

> >

> >So you discovered Yohimbe? Well I will tell you what yohimbe is. It is an

> >herb from West Africa and yes it is suppose to have natural steroid

> >properties But what it is really used for is impotency. Hence the extra

> >pleasure you have been experiencing. I have a few of my customers on

> (snip)

> 

> Sorry to be so negative, but I think above is complete bull.

> 

> To get some better information on yohimbe read the entry in the medicinal

> herbfaq; or download the herbal-medical contraindications from Michael Moore's

> website(mirrored in my ftp space) (go for the manuals) and look up yohimbe

> there.

> 

> Can you tell I _don't_ sell yohimbe?

> 

> Henriette

> 

> --

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>       /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

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It works for me. Me, a 39 year old male who has suffered from impotence for the 

last few years. It works great... I've been to therapists, Uroligists, hypnotists 

and taught myself self hypnosis to no avail. But then I read about Yohimbie in 

this newsgroup's FAQ, MOORE I think, so I bought some and BOOM. Erection city!



There are some limitations however. It tends to make me very restless.  If I take 

1500 mg at 5:00pm, I will stay up till 2:00am or later. It also makes me real 

nervous when I take more than 3000 mg. 



Don't doubt yohimbe though until you try it. Both me and my wife swear by it. 



marty



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe extract

From: Kris  Gammon <AncientOne@gnn.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:50:03



>Does anybody know the uses for Yohimbe extract?

>I bought a bottle of 1500 mg tablets at GNC.

>A friend at the gym said that it supposed to build up

> your muscles.

>I've noticed an interesting side effect, my penis stays

> erected longer

>

>for some peculiar reason even after ejaculation, my

> girlfriend isn't

>complaining as must either. any thoughts on this would

> be appreciated.

>Hope I haven't offended anyone, I am just trying to get

> an opinion on

>this matter.





Well, that is what is sold for! Actually, I would highly 

recommend you drop the Yohimbe and switch to Muira Puama 

which doesn't have the side-effects.



Kris



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Ancient Medicinal Traditions

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: (no subject)

From: CharlesSchnall <cschnall@chelsea.ios.com>

Date: 20 Aug 1996 05:08:10 GMT



Does anyone know of a reference work which cross-references interactions 

or interactive ingredients of herbal remedies with pharmaceutical 

medications?



Thanks, 

Charles





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Mother Tincture

From: Karen Hoagland <karenh@sprynet.com>

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:03:18 -0700



Can anyone tell me who supplies all of these Homeopathic Medicine 

companies with the Mother Tincture from which they make their medicine?



Thanks



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Garlic and pregnancy

From: sleipnir@northernnet.com (JL)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:52:37 GMT



Anyone know if there are any adverse side effects to taking garlic

pills during pregnancy??





--Jenny

******************************************************

"I stopped playing Magic: The Gathering(tm) when

a booster pack started costing more than a good book."





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: JL <sleipnir@northernnet.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Garlic and pregnancy

From: Kent and Kat Dyer <kdyer@nash.tds.net>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:27:22 -0700



JL wrote:

> 

> Anyone know if there are any adverse side effects to taking garlic

> pills during pregnancy??

> 

> --Jenny

> ******************************************************

> "I stopped playing Magic: The Gathering(tm) when

> a booster pack started costing more than a good book."



I don't know any specifics but I took them during both of my pregnancys.



Kat  mom to Corwyn (3-24-96) & Jennifer (8-10-93)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,sci.med.nutrition

Subject: Eczema

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 96 13:15:37 EST





I have run across a case of eczema that did not respond 

to the usual course of antiparasitics.  It required EFA 

(essential fatty acid) supplementation.



This may have not been true eczema, but more eczema-

like symptoms.  I was clued into this potential

treatment by someone who said that their infant had 

(what a doctor had diagnosed as) eczema and was prescribed

cortisone.  One day, the kid got into some butter and

ate a large amount, and his skin condition improved

dramatically in hours, much to the surprise of his

parents.  They then continued to give him all the butter

he wanted, and his "eczema" disappeared altogether.



There are a small amount of EFAs in butter.  This and

extra virgin olive oil (and some vegetables) are about 

the only sources of undamaged EFAs in the average american's 

diet, but neither are good sources of them.  Eating 

margarine and other damaged fats inhibits the absorption 

of what little EFAs are normally eaten.



There are products now available at some health food 

stores in the refrigerated sections that are much better 

than butter or olive oil.  Arrowhead Mills makes an EFA 

supplement called "Essential Balance" that costs about 

$8.  I have also seen hemp oil in this section, and it is 

even better than most blends, but is expensive - about 

double the cost of Essential Balance.  Of course, any product

like this should be refrigerated, and packaged in an

opaque bottle.  Take according to directions, or 1 T per

day.  It should be used within one month or less after

opening the bottle.  They can also be used to make salad

dressings.



Instead of supplementing oil directly, the same effects

can be had by making one's own nut butter out of raw nuts

and seeds.  A good way to do this would be to grind 1 cup 

almonds, 1/4 cup sesame seeds, 1/4 cup or more flax seeds,

and 2T unsalted butter together.  Add Morton Lite Salt 

and/or Hain Sea Salt to taste.  This can be done in a food 

processor, adding x-virgin olive oil to make it the right 

consistency.



The successors of omega 3s and omega 6s, EPA and GLA, may

also be take to combat EFA deficiency.  Only tiny amounts

of these are necessary.  Taking a capsule each of EPA

(fish oil) capsules along with a capsule of evening primrose

oil daily would provide plenty of EFAs.  If one buys

EPA capsules, be sure it specifies "cholesterol free"

to prevent PCB contamination.  The best deal I have seen

for it is Solaray's MaxPure EPA.



I am also adding copper, from a multivitamin, to my  

eczema recommendations due to possible skin problems 

excaberated by deficiency of this mineral.  Take 100% 

RDA daily in a multivitamin, like Twinlabs Daily One 

(in addition to the Calcium/Magnesium supplementation 

regimen as specified in my article "Diet and Supplement 

Tips.")



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Eczema

From: Dave & Colette <lnrplxus@ripco.com>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:59:49 GMT



Aside from upping your EFA's, which should help quite a bit, there

are herbs that can be used to help.



A highly recommended herb for exzema (hope this isn't a repeat)

is drinking red clover tops.  Now is the time to harvest them!

If you can find a field you can cut off the top two or three 

inches including the flowers, set them on an oven rack on top of

a clean sheet or towel in a warm, dark environment.  Spread them

out in approx. a single layer and allow them to dry.



You can also purchase this herb at a healthfood store.  Red Clover

is okay, but Red Clover Tops (the flowers) are the best.



Make an infusion - place one oz of the dried herb in a quart jar,

fill w/boiling water and cap tightly

  if it's mostly flowers let sit for two hours

  if it's mostly leaves let sit for four hours

then strain and drink a couple cups per day.



Red clover is highly nutritious and a blood cleanser and safe for 

children (should probably only drink one cup of infusion per day)

and lactating moms. [It contains huge amounts of absorbable calcium

and many trace minerals and the right proportions of vitamins and

minerals needed for your body to absorb and utilize all the nutrients

in it.]



Also, a friend of mine whose daughter has severe exzema highly

recommends "Golden Salve" (TM), which is a very soothing topical

herbal salve that contains Golden Seal, comfrey, propolis and in

an olive oil/beeswax base (it also has some other herbs - maybe

calendula).  And Weleda (TM) calendula gel (usually used for baby's

bottom) is VERY soothing. When my daughter had slightly dry skin

the same friend recommend avoiding too many baths since water can

be very drying.



My sister had really REALLY bad exzema, but my parents took the

medicalized route.  She was told to avoid detergents and excess

water (you can use Dr. Bronner's (TM) oil based soap as an alternative

to regular soap), and she had to use either lubriderm or eucerine (sp?)

[both brand names - ask pharmacist for the latter, since it's

technically over the counter, but sometimes kept back by the

pharmacist].  When she had really bad episodes I think she got a

steroidal cream, but she's 10 years older than I, so I'm not 100%

sure about that.



Hope this helps!

--

Morning Glory



"Nature can provide for the needs of people; [she] can't provide for

the greeds of people."  - Mohandas K. Gandhi







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Eczema

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 21:04:03 EST



In article <DwHwFp.B25@rci.ripco.com>, lnrplxus@ripco.com says...



>A highly recommended herb for exzema (hope this isn't a repeat)

>is drinking red clover tops. 



Good point.  Also, burdock and other blood cleansers will help,

especially while taking the antiparasitics, else the problem

will usually get worse before it gets better.  



Someone asked me the other day what topical works best for eczema.  

I had never thought of this problem before, since I am usually adverse

to palliative measures, but I guess it would be

good to recommend a topical if one wants one before they are

cured by taking antiparasitics.  The best at preventing 

discomfort are prescription ones from your physician, but 

neem oil will help as well.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: imsomnia

From: Michael <mjq@best.com>

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:16:09 -0700



Hi, could some of you suggest some herbs or treatments to help with occasional

imsomnia,( about 4 times a month)?



Thanks!!



Laura



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: imsomnia

From: frew@sans.vuw.ac.nz (Allan David Frew)

Date: 21 Aug 1996 22:53:51 GMT



Michael (mjq@best.com) wrote:

: Hi, could some of you suggest some herbs or treatments to help with occasional

: imsomnia,( about 4 times a month)?



: Thanks!!



: Laura



One treatment that works for me when Im stressed before going to bed is a

cup of Chamolie tea with a calcium/magnesium tablet with a dose of

750mg/500mg. Some people may need a higher dose such as a gram of each but

you shouldn't need any higher.



You could try herbs such as Skullcap, Jasmine and Plantain also.



Allan





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: imsomnia

From: sandy@teleport.com (Sandy)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:33:01 -0700



In article <321A2B19.51AE@best.com>, Michael <mjq@best.com> wrote:



> Hi, could some of you suggest some herbs or treatments to help with occasional

> imsomnia,( about 4 times a month)?



Check out melatonin.



--Sandy



________________________________________________________



Should we all confess our sins to one another we would

all laugh at one another for our lack of originality.



     --Kahlil Gibran

________________________________________________________

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: imsomnia

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:28:21 GMT



On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:33:01 -0700, in alt.folklore.herbs sandy@teleport.com

(Sandy) wrote:



>In article <321A2B19.51AE@best.com>, Michael <mjq@best.com> wrote:

>

>> Hi, could some of you suggest some herbs or treatments to help with occasional

>> imsomnia,( about 4 times a month)?

>

>Check out melatonin.



Or try to find out -why- you have insomnia and do something about the cause.



Henriette



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Blood clot in eye

From: Richard Mullinax <dickm@vcd.hp.com>

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:56:29 -0700



My mother-in-law recently went to an eye specialist because she is only

able to see lights and shadows in one eye.  This is a new thing with

her, maybe 1 month old.  The Dr. seemed very calm in telling her that

blood is thickening (or clotting?) in the vessels to the retina.  Said

there was nothing he or she could do about it.  Needless to say, she is

getting a second opinon, but if any of you have some input to this

problem I would like to hear from you.



Thanks,



Dick



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Blood clot in eye

From: jerry smith <jsmith@en.com>

Date: 22 Aug 1996 18:38:59 GMT



Richard Mullinax <dickm@vcd.hp.com> wrote:

>

> My mother-in-law recently went to an eye specialist because she is only

> able to see lights and shadows in one eye.  This is a new thing with

> her, maybe 1 month old.  The Dr. seemed very calm in telling her that

> blood is thickening (or clotting?) in the vessels to the retina.  Said

> there was nothing he or she could do about it.  Needless to say, she is

> getting a second opinon, but if any of you have some input to this

> problem I would like to hear from you.

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Dick



The Dr. sounds a little insensitive, I hope not. Regardless, the

priority is to save the sight in the good eye. Many people claim

Bilberry (European blueberry) has helped in eye problems 

involving circulation. Also Ginkgo biloba has been reported to he

helpful to cerebral and retinal blood vessels. Garlic is said to 

help reduce clotting as well. I hope the second opinion is more 

positive. Perhaps she can find a good holistic MD.



                                        Best regards, Jerry



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pot

From: an202235@anon.penet.fi (boognish)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 01:20:39 UTC





> Can a person get in trouble on the 'net talking about pot as an herb or

> remedy? 



I couldn't imagine that happening..at least not with the law.  Freedom of

speech..On the other hand, if someone took your advice and had ill effects

from it maybe.. I recommend that people smoke pot when they're having

trouble breathing or are quitting smoking.  That's just because it works

for me.  With another person they might want to smoke more cigarettes and

freak out.  and of course there's the issue that it's illegal.  and some

people might get upset at you for suggesting something illegal...even if

it does work...who knows



boognish

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Phen- Fen Diet?

From: lthomas@facstaff.wisc.edu (L Thomas)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 23:17:44 -0500



I apologize if this is a topic that has been covered lately, but could

anyone tell me about the "Phen- Fen" diet?  I have been trying to lose

weight slowly through better eating and exercise but am interested in

learning about this.  Thanks in advance for any information!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Phen- Fen Diet?

From: glenb@xmission.com (Glen L. Bogue)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:14:04 GMT



lthomas@facstaff.wisc.edu (L Thomas) wrote:



>I apologize if this is a topic that has been covered lately, but could

>anyone tell me about the "Phen- Fen" diet?  I have been trying to lose

>weight slowly through better eating and exercise but am interested in

>learning about this.  Thanks in advance for any information!



I only have one comment for you.  DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!

Yes it works, but are you really willing to pay the price?  There is a

book called "The New Diet Pills" that will tell you all the advantages

and disadvantages of using Phen/Fen.  Even the author of the book

recommended that the use of Ephedra preferably from MaHuang with

asprin and caffieen(sp) works the best.  IMO Phen/Fen is as bad as

poision.  Once you start taking it you would have to take it forever

to keep the weight off.  However, most doctors will only perscribe it

for three months.  You lose some fat but mostly muscle.  Then when you

go off the stuff you are worse off than before.



Good Luck,

Glen Bogue

glenb@xmission.com



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Phen- Fen Diet?

From: littlepua@aol.com (Little Pua)

Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:39:09 -0400



     I am a television journalist who covered a local doctor who was

shipping his patients over state line to get the drug... it is illegal

here in Tenn. I followed several patients for months who used it... all

had success at first, but then the weight came back on. One man who

weighed over 400 lbs lost only 20 lbs in 4 months. He did exercise and eat

good food while taking phen-fen, but he ate large quantities of this

healthy food. He had to stop taking the medicne when he started having

heart troubles and the weight came back on and then some. All of the

patients had nausea, the shakes and or some sort of side affects.

      Some states put a time limit on how long one could take the drug,

and this dr. got around it by sending his patients to a different state.

This was big business for the dr. He had his own plane to fly patients

across the state lines. I understand fully the hope such a drug might

have, but as long as you do not have a medical condition that is keeping

you overweight... I concluded it was best to try the proven of exercise

and healthy eating. It is better to be healthy and a little larger, then

thin and sick.



Good Luck,

Little Pua



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for depression?

From: afn23664@afn.org (Ray A. Orosz)

Date: 21 Aug 1996 14:45:23 GMT





Hi,

I know this must have been asked before, but what is the latest and

greatest info on herbs used to treat depression, and I don't mean just the

"blues". I tried looking in the FAQ, but couldn't find it.

ANY tips will be MOST appreciated



Regards,

Ray



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for depression?

From: sandy@teleport.com (Sandy)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:32:06 -0700



In article <4vf7e3$iii@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, afn23664@afn.org (Ray A. Orosz) wrote:



> I know this must have been asked before, but what is the latest and

> greatest info on herbs used to treat depression



Look into St. John's Wort.



--Sandy



________________________________________________________



Should we all confess our sins to one another we would

all laugh at one another for our lack of originality.



     --Kahlil Gibran

________________________________________________________

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort & sun

From: vhlushak@awinc.com (Vic Hlushak)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:08:49 GMT



Stephen Brock <stephen_brock@bmc.com> wrote:



>Michael J. Lovell wrote:

>> 

>> "Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net> wrote:

>> 

>

>> I just started trying it, and I think its great.  No side effects at

>> all.  They say to stay out of the sun, but I think that's bull unless

>> you spend all of your time at the beach.Different folks react differently. Just as some

>folks are not sensitive to poison ivy some folks

>do not become hypersensitive to the sun after

>taking St. John's wort. Do not assume what

>is true for you is true for all.

>

>--Steve



 I use SJW a lot and rec. it to others. If there are people out there

who have had a sensitivity to the sun I would love to talk to you. So

far I have found nobody who has had a problem just a lot of second

hand reports. It could be the old "refine a herb to death and feed

huge amounts to animals " problem!



vic

vhlushak@awinc.com

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: mike giles <levi@netnet.net>

Newsgroups: alt.lucky.w,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.religion.orisha

Subject: wholesale candles, wax, oils, scents

From: catherine yronwode <yronwode@sonic.net>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:40:40 -0800



mike giles <levi@netnet.net> wrote:

  

> I'm wondering if you can help me.  I'm starting a business selling

> spiritual candles and other things.  I'm looking for someone who sells

> wholesale wax,  but I'm also interested in buying wholesale candles,

> incense, and oils.  If you sell wholesale yourself or if you know 

> someone who does  I would really like to hear from you.



Well, i am a writer, not a seller or manufacturer -- but i will try to 

help. 



First, i suggest that for a good source of candle wax, you try the 

General Wax Corporation down in Southern California -- they sell 

parrafin wax to a lot of candle manufacturers. They probably manufacture 

wholesale candles without labels for people to label as they choose, 

too. 



Lama Temple in Chicago makes and sells an extremely popular and 

extensive line of hoodoo candles with great designs and graphics (really 

the best) and also offers a small assortment of oils and bath products 

as well. A few of their spiritual products, such as Dr. Pryor's Hyssop 

Bath, are made with actual plant matter as advertised in the name -- but 

they may buy those elsewhere and re-labbel them. They sell wholesale too 

and they seem to have several candle factories around the country, to 

cut down on shipping charges.



As far as wholesale oils and fragrances for the spiritual market go, two 

of the larger companies are Indio and Anna Riva, but i find their stuff 

to be junk, just phoney dyes and smells, without any soul. They sell 

wholesale. Anna Riva has ugly package labelling. Indio's used to be cool 

but has degenerated badly since the 1980s -- however they still sell the 

stuff in nice glass bottles with traditional names. 



For better looking hoodoo spiritual supplies, albeit still using 

artificial scents, try Sonny Boy Products out of Birmingham, Alabama -- 

their labels are cool and old-fashioned, very traditional. They have a 

reputation of screening their customers closely, so don;t just expect to 

barge in and order stuff. You've got to get to know them first.  



Indio, Anna Roiva, and SSonny Boy all sell incense as well -- but only 

Sonny Boy still sells it in the traditional can form used by hoodoo 

practitions rather than simply buying Oriental stick incense in bulk and 

re-labelling it with hoodoo names. 



For wholesale sources of natural scents and oils derived from plant 

materials, i suggest you inquire in alt.folklore.herbs -- and i have 

cc'ed this there as well. The only major commercial manufacturer i know 

right now supplying a wholesale line of hoodoo products made with real 

plant matter is Papa Jim's out of San Antonio, Texas. I do not know how 

large their line is, but they do distribute nationally. Their labels 

suck, however, being just typewritten scraps of paper held on with 

scotch tape. 



If i were going to go into the hoodoo spiritual supply business, i'd 

hook up with Papa Jim and design some sharp but extremely 

traditional-looking hoodoo labels for them and market their products -- 

which are absolely top-quality -- to new age stores. (Wanna hire me? I'm 

a professional graphic designer, i know a lot about the history of these 

products, and i have an extensive "swipe file" of old label designs to 

draw upon.)



I look forward to the return of real hoodoo-style products made with 

actual roots and herbs instead of this fake city-stuff that Indio and 

Anna Riva peddle now. If that's the track you are on, then blessings and 

good luck to you!



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Vitamins

From: protech@gem.co.za (Gavin & Helen)

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:19:07 GMT



I need to find out what specific uses/benefits individual vitamins and

minerals have in the body.  Could anyone out there point me to faq

site or post related info, please?



Thanks

Helen







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: harold fowler <h.fowler@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 21 Aug 1996 22:16:36 GMT



Best introduction to need for vitamins and minerals "Nutrition Against 

Disease, by Roger Williams.  Out of print but library should have it.

Williams, PhD, was President of American Chemical Society, Director of 

Biochemistry Lab at U. Texas for long time.  Co-discoverer of folic acid 

and pantothenic acid.   





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: kaycg@ix.netcom.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: harold fowler <h.fowler@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 22 Aug 1996 20:34:58 GMT



I'm intrigued.  Please send prices and list of items in supplement



harold





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 10:52:44 -0400



In article <321b6199.44751319@news.gem.co.za>, protech@gem.co.za (Gavin &

Helen) writes:



>I need to find out what specific uses/benefits individual vitamins and

>minerals have in the body. 



Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplements by Michael Murray, ND 1996 Prima

(just came out this month).  Done by the author of the Encyclopedia of

Natural Medicine -- big book, haven't had a chance to really read it, but

knowing Michael's other stuff, very detailed with lots of footnotes,

studies quoted, etc..



Doctor's  Vitamins & Minerals  Encyclopedia by Sheldon Hendler MD (still

in print, sorry I don't have the publisher -- e-mail me if you need more

info). Good for quick information.  Usually available in health food

stores.



Staying Healthy With Nutrition by Elson Haas 1995 Celestial Arts: Really

my favorite book on nutrition overall, with lots of information in

vitamins, minerals, amino acids, herbs, etc.



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: Chris Pittman <cap2@sprynet.com>

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:18:20 -0400



Gavin & Helen wrote:

> 

> I need to find out what specific uses/benefits individual vitamins and

> minerals have in the body.  Could anyone out there point me to faq

> site or post related info, please?



Dr. Earl Mindell's "Vitamin Bible," the best selling book in the history

of nutrition, does exactly that.



Chris



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: acatanac@rt66.com (Albert Catanach)

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 22:20:40 GMT



In article <3224B79C.63FC@sprynet.com>,

   Chris Pittman <cap2@sprynet.com> wrote:

>Gavin & Helen wrote:

>> 

>> I need to find out what specific uses/benefits individual vitamins and

>> minerals have in the body.  Could anyone out there point me to faq

>> site or post related info, please?

>

>Dr. Earl Mindell's "Vitamin Bible," the best selling book in the history

>of nutrition, does exactly that.

>

>Chris

>



Yes, I totally agree, Dr. Earl Mindell has written numerous books on 

nutrition.  One of them being the Vitamin Bible which has sold a total of 7.5 

million copies.  He has also written a numerous amount of other books on the 

various subjects of nutrition.  I think a total of 12.  His most recent book 

is the Miracles of Soy.  You can get his books at most book stores.  



Just to give you a taste of what Dr. Mindell says about vitamins.  I quote, 

Dr. Earl Mindell from his book the Vitamin Bible:



- Did you that One cigarette destroys 25-100mg of vitamin C.

- Milk with synthetic vitamin D (which means almost all store-bought milk) can 

rob the body of magnesium.

- People who live in smoggy cities are not getting the vitamin D that their 

country cousins get because the smog absorbs the sun's ultraviolet rays!

-  Eighty percent of of American women are deficient in calcium!



It goes on and on and on.  I would recommend that everyone get a copy of this 

book.  It is such an eye opener.



Also, I have some startling news about the various types of minerals including 

colloidal minerals.





For more information contact:



acatanac@rt66.com

http://www.rt66.com/~acatanac/shy/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: drozycki@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Dariusz ROZYCKI)

Date: 30 Aug 1996 19:37:08 GMT



what would be the year of the most recent edition of the book you 

mentioned in your msg?  seems to me that there would need to be updates

every month to keep the information fresh and up-to-date, at the rate 

things are advancing in this field.



Darius



Albert Catanach (acatanac@rt66.com) wrote:

: In article <3224B79C.63FC@sprynet.com>,

:    Chris Pittman <cap2@sprynet.com> wrote:

: >Gavin & Helen wrote:

: >> 

: >> I need to find out what specific uses/benefits individual vitamins and

: >> minerals have in the body.  Could anyone out there point me to faq

: >> site or post related info, please?

: >

: >Dr. Earl Mindell's "Vitamin Bible," the best selling book in the history

: >of nutrition, does exactly that.

: >

: >Chris

: >



: Yes, I totally agree, Dr. Earl Mindell has written numerous books on 

: nutrition.  One of them being the Vitamin Bible which has sold a total of 7.5 

: million copies.  He has also written a numerous amount of other books on the 

: various subjects of nutrition.  I think a total of 12.  His most recent book 

: is the Miracles of Soy.  You can get his books at most book stores.  



: Just to give you a taste of what Dr. Mindell says about vitamins.  I quote, 

: Dr. Earl Mindell from his book the Vitamin Bible:



: - Did you that One cigarette destroys 25-100mg of vitamin C.

: - Milk with synthetic vitamin D (which means almost all store-bought milk) can 

: rob the body of magnesium.

: - People who live in smoggy cities are not getting the vitamin D that their 

: country cousins get because the smog absorbs the sun's ultraviolet rays!

: -  Eighty percent of of American women are deficient in calcium!



: It goes on and on and on.  I would recommend that everyone get a copy of this 

: book.  It is such an eye opener.



: Also, I have some startling news about the various types of minerals including 

: colloidal minerals.





: For more information contact:



: acatanac@rt66.com

: http://www.rt66.com/~acatanac/shy/



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: Dariusz ROZYCKI <drozycki@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: Chris Pittman <cap2@sprynet.com>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 23:15:49 -0400



Dariusz ROZYCKI wrote:

> 

> what would be the year of the most recent edition of the book you

> mentioned in your msg?  seems to me that there would need to be updates

> every month to keep the information fresh and up-to-date, at the rate

> things are advancing in this field.



Dr. Mindell publishes a newsletter and appears on 300 radio and TV shows

each year, keeping us continuously updated with the latest advances. 

Dr. Mindell and his research staff are committed to keeping up with the

latest research.  He's been in the field for 30 years, dedicating his

life to researching and teaching about nutrition.  "Vitamin Bible" was

published in 1985, and it is updated from time to time.  He writes one

new book each year, and his latest is "Anti-Aging Bible."  Send email

reply for newsletter and book contact info.



Chris



****************************************************

	Ask me for free audio tapes "Maximize Your Health"

	and "Live Past 100 and Enjoy It" by the world's

	leading nutritionist, Dr. Earl Mindell, R.Ph., Ph.D.



	Please reply to Chris Pittman, cap2@sprynet.com



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitamins

From: jlatino@symantec.com (John Latino)

Date: 30 Aug 1996 22:47:25 GMT



In article <505c8f$jdg@mack.rt66.com>, acatanac@rt66.com says...



>Just to give you a taste of what Dr. Mindell says about vitamins.  I quote, 

>Dr. Earl Mindell from his book the Vitamin Bible:

>



>- Milk with synthetic vitamin D (which means almost all store-bought milk) can 

>rob the body of magnesium.



What is the difference between "synthetic" vitamin D and "natural" vitamin D? 

Vitamin D is a molecule (Cholecalciferol) and should be structurally the same 

regardless of its source.



-John





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Dosages..

From: bae01@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Benjamin Arthur Engel)

Date: 22 Aug 1996 12:08:02 +1000



Dear alt.folklore.herbs people..



With taking Gingko and Gotu-kola as brain and general memory aids, what sort 

of daily dosage should I be aiming at? I read somewhere that for gingko the 

recommended dose is somewhere between 150-220mg, taken three times a day as it

only stays in your system for about 6hrs. This makes the 2000mg tablets that I 

have seem slighty on the overkill side.. As for the Gotu-kola I think the 

capsules that I am taking presently are 500mg (2 times a day), but is this 

too much or at the wrong times. As you can clearly see I am a little on the 

clueless side, and would greatly appreciate any advice :)



Thanks lots,



Ben

bae01@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: AMMONIA SMELL

From: witchdoc@aol.com (Witchdoc)

Date: 21 Aug 1996 22:17:48 -0400



A friend of mine is wondering what causes his sweat to smell like ammonia.

 Is this a normal thing or does he have a problem?  Some one told him that

he's burning muscles instead of fat....



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: AMMONIA SMELL

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 09:49:02 -0700



witchdoc@aol.com (Witchdoc) wrote:



>A friend of mine is wondering what causes his sweat to smell like ammonia.

> Is this a normal thing or does he have a problem?  Some one told him that

>he's burning muscles instead of fat....



  Ammonia is one byproduct of protein metabolism, so the friend could

be right.   It's not normal!!!!

  Other causes, some serious: 



Excessive protein consumption, too little carbohydrates, and the body

is being forced to use amino acids (from the diet or by tearing apart

muscle protein) for lack of enough glucose.  Fixed by  eating more

carbohydrates and  less protein.



If it isn't dietary:

Liver problems, and ammonia building up in the blood (BAD ONE)

Excessive ammonia production in the digestive tract ... also medically

serious.

Perhaps a bacteria on his skin is converting something to ammonia, but

that's unlikely.

Callie



Callie@writepage.com            | Captain, HTML Police

http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Beedies

From: ps000010@pixie.co.za

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:03:28 GMT



Suposedly, Sir Walter Raleigh introduced tobbacco to Europe from the

Americas.

So what did the Europeans smoke before that?

Any ideas?

Phil





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: St. Johns Wart

From: "Dr. Ray Tropeano" <ay214@lafn.org>

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:36:24 -0700



Does anyone know the dosage of SJW for mild depression? Side effects? 

Thanks!!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: St. Johns Wart

From: "Phyllis Schuster" <phyls@faribault.polaristel.net>

Date: 24 Aug 1996 19:52:54 GMT



I copied this from the Botanical Research Bulletin, found elsewere on the

Net: The St. John's wort extract standardized to contain 0.3 % hptericin at

a dosage of 300 mg three times daily has been shown in over 25 double-blind

studies to exert antidepressant effects comparable to standard

antidepressant drugs. However, while standard antidepressant drugs are

associated with many side effects, St. John's wort extract is virtually

free of side effects (the major side effect is gastric irritation in 0.55%

of patients). In contract, clinical trials with Prozac have demonstrated

that 21% of patients taking the drug experience nausea; 20% headaches; 15%

anxiety and nervousness; 14% insomnia; 12% drowsiness; 12% diarrhea; 9.5%

dry mouth; 9% loss of appetite; 8% sweating and tremor; and 3% rash. 



Exactly how St. John's wort extract exerts is antidepressant effect has not

been fully determined. Several studies have shown an effect on modulating

interleukin-6 receptor function as being a possible mechanism. However, a

new study has demonstrated a mechanism of action that may be similar to

Prozac. Prozac works by specifically inhibiting the re-uptake of serotonin

at the nerve endings in the brain. As a result, more serotonin is likely to

bind to receptor sites on brain cells and transmit the serotonin signal. A

decrease in serotonin function is though to be a major cause of depression,

anxiety, and insomnia.



Dr. Ray Tropeano <ay214@lafn.org> wrote in article

<321BF1D8.5549@lafn.org>...

> Does anyone know the dosage of SJW for mild depression? Side effects? 

> Thanks!!

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: hair

From: lilsheba@teleport.com (Jeanine Claar)

Date: 22 Aug 1996 05:52:56 GMT



Yeah I know of the perfect thing for dry hair to make it soft...henna!

I've been using it to color and condition my hair for almost a year

now...and it works wonders!  You can get in colors ranging from neutral

(no color at all) to black...although if you have light hair and want to

do black you need to do a red base first, then follow it with black.  I

personally like red....it glows like fire in the sunlight!  Just look for

100% natural henna in a natural food store or natural product section of a

grocery store.



--

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Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-28800, N81)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tooth Bites in Mouth

From: "Dennis L. Mickey" <dmickey@cvn.net>

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:33:58 -0700



Either during the week before or after my cycle, I will bite myself

with a pointer tooth.  It is sore until it heals about 5 days later.



Does anyone know of any herbs or treatment that will make it heal 

faster?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tooth Bites in Mouth

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:44:12 GMT



In article <321CA816.6BD@cvn.net>, "Dennis L. Mickey" <dmickey@cvn.net> wrote:

>Either during the week before or after my cycle, I will bite myself

>with a pointer tooth.  It is sore until it heals about 5 days later.

>

>Does anyone know of any herbs or treatment that will make it heal 

>faster?



Myrrh tincture will do it every time.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Diet and Supplement Tips

From: HAbadzi <HAbadziworldbank.org>

Date: 22 Aug 1996 21:45:39 GMT



Hulda Clark, the author of the "cure for all diseases" has made lots of 

far-out statements about crystals and parasites etc., which no other 

doctors or health specialists have ever made.



Who has researched her stuff, medical establishment or otherwise?





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Diet and Supplement Tips

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 17:20:10 EST



In article <4vike3$4r4@ka.worldbank.org>, HAbadziworldbank.org says...



>Who has researched her stuff, medical establishment or otherwise?



You can do it yourself.  If you have some malady that she

discusses, try her remedy and report your results.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Diet and Supplement Tips

From: gmc0@ix.netcom.com (George M. Carter)

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:48:23 GMT



turf@mindspring.com (turf) wrote:



>In article <4vike3$4r4@ka.worldbank.org>, HAbadziworldbank.org says...



>>Who has researched her stuff, medical establishment or otherwise?



>You can do it yourself.  If you have some malady that she

>discusses, try her remedy and report your results.



I'd offer a caution. First, I think her idea that AIDS is a fluke (OK,

I couldn't resist: HIV hiding in flukes) is just utter nonsense. Her

cure for parasites has some merit as Artemisia has been long used to

treat parasites. However, absinthium is often found and is probably

not as good an idea as A. annua. And A. annua should be used with

great care and respect. It is not a mild herb!!



I find it frustrating and saddening that whatever good Clark may offer

is swept aside by some of the nuttier crap she espouses.



		George M. Carter









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: HELP PLEASE! Feel like crud

From: wewawmn@indus.unm.edu (Willa Sargent)

Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:46:53 GMT



Thank you for your interest.  I know there has to be an herbal/

alternative approach to my problem.

I am trying to get off a number of anti-depressant drugs.  I am

experiencing horrid side effects, neurological disturbances.  I've

consulted two doctors at the student health center, neither is supportive

of my desire to quit western medication for this problem.

I found a Chinese patent herbal formula that seems to work well.  However,

I suspect I may need to try many things in combination.  

Any suggestions?  I would prefer e-mail as your response may be fairly

detailed.

Thanks in advance,

Willa



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: What's in my friend Kudzu

From: repfarm@sprynet.com

Date: 23 Aug 1996 05:59:36 GMT



I need the nutritional breakdown of KUDZU leaves.  I know they are high in fiber, calcium, vitamins A and C.



I need more specific info, as complete as I can find.



Thanks for any help.



Please e-mail me



James











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Parasites crosref

From: Killik R I <rikill@essex.ac.uk>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:35:37 +0100





For any one who is interested, there is an interesting posting on

sci.med.nutrition about herbal treatments for gut parasties.





**********************

Rupert Killik

Colchester, Essex, UK

rikill@essex.ac.uk

**********************





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Starting an herb garden

From: Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:34:01 -0400



Linda,



Many cooking herbs are also medicinal.  I recommend John Lust's _Herb

Book_, a paperback that can be found anywhere.  It's got all kinds of

entries.  Basil, for instance, grows well in pots and is useful for lots

of maladies as well as great for cooking!  Good luck!



Kat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Squaw's Vine

From: keast@melb.alexia.net.au (keast)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:21:19 PST





Hi All,



Can anyone point me to where I can buy seeds for Squaw's Vine?



With thanks,



Morgana



keast@melb.alexia.net.au





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Bilberry Usage

From: DDoolan@gnn.com (Denise Doolan)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:02:04



Has anyone ever heard of using bilberry to improve eyesight? It's 

been recommended to me, but I don't know if it really works or what 

kind of dosage should be used, or if there are any side effects.



Any info would be appreciated...



Denise





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bilberry Usage

From: mthorn@fastnet.co.uk (Michael Thorn)

Date: 25 Aug 96 18:57:54 GMT



In article <4vlras$i5i@news-e2c.gnn.com>, DDoolan@gnn.com (Denise Doolan) says:

>

>Has anyone ever heard of using bilberry to improve eyesight? It's 

>been recommended to me, but I don't know if it really works or what 

>kind of dosage should be used, or if there are any side effects.

>

>Any info would be appreciated...

>

>Denise

>



Yes, I picked up quite a bit on bilberry

from a web site - If you like I can look up

the web details again, or even send a copy

of the text-file to your e-mail address.

There were some US night air pilots who ate

bilbery jam during WW2 and noticed it improved

their ability to see in the dark - Various

scientific tests have apparently verified...

mthorn@fastnet.co.uk



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bilberry Usage

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:01:25 GMT



On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:02:04, in alt.folklore.herbs DDoolan@gnn.com (Denise

Doolan) wrote:



>Has anyone ever heard of using bilberry to improve eyesight? It's 

>been recommended to me, but I don't know if it really works or what 

>kind of dosage should be used, or if there are any side effects.



... we're just doing that one on the medicinal herblist. Yes, it will improve

your -nightsight-, but so will carrots, red beets, black currants, ...



Side effects? For fresh bilberries (Vaccinium myrtillus)? None. We eat it by the

liter in Finland. ... come to think of it, if you do overdo it you'll get a very

shortlived diarrhoea. Nothing to worry about. On the other hand, if you do dried

berries you'll get constipation if you overdo it. A peculiar plant.



You use the leaves for urinary tract infections (and it has a reputation of

being good for some kinds of diabetes too), but you have to know what you do,

the leaves contain arbutin.



Henriette



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      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ok. St. John's wort vs. Paxil?

From: afn23664@afn.org (Ray A. Orosz)

Date: 23 Aug 1996 20:57:51 GMT



Hi,

Let me first thank all the people who responded to my initial question,

and the good advice they gave me on herbs for depression.



The new question is between St. John's Wort and Paxil. Has anyone tried

both of these to give any good comparisons on effectiveness. If so which

one wins?, Side effect comparison?, which works faster?, etc.

One thing. My intention is to get a boost to get going and resolve this

thing on my own, and hopefully, once and for all!.



I'll await news to make a decision on which one to take.



Regards,

Ray



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ok. St. John's wort vs. Paxil?

From: "p.whitmer" <pwhitmer@bcpl.lib.md.us>

Date: 27 Aug 1996 14:41:34 GMT



Hi,

I have used St. John's Wort for some time now with great success.[haven't

tried Paxil]

I also take ginsang for energy.  This helps also.

Hope this helps.



Jo Ann[on husbands account] 



Ray A. Orosz <afn23664@afn.org> wrote in article

<4vl60f$735@huron.eel.ufl.edu>...

> Hi,

> Let me first thank all the people who responded to my initial question,

> and the good advice they gave me on herbs for depression.

> 

> The new question is between St. John's Wort and Paxil. Has anyone tried

> both of these to give any good comparisons on effectiveness. If so which

> one wins?, Side effect comparison?, which works faster?, etc.

> One thing. My intention is to get a boost to get going and resolve this

> thing on my own, and hopefully, once and for all!.

> 

> I'll await news to make a decision on which one to take.

> 

> Regards,

> Ray

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.com

Subject: Re: Ok. St. John's wort vs. Paxil?

From: Della Noche <dnoche@mail.wco.com>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 23:47:48 GMT



How did you take it?  



I bought some powdered St. John's Wort at a health food store and now I'm 

not sure what to do with it!  Once upon a time I would have just made a 

tea or stuffed it in capsules and waited!  But I've gotten a little more 

cautious over the years.  ;-)



dn



"p.whitmer" <pwhitmer@bcpl.lib.md.us> wrote:

>Hi,

>I have used St. John's Wort for some time now with great success.[haven't

>tried Paxil]

>I also take ginsang for energy.  This helps also.

>Hope this helps.

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Can Some please point me in the right Direction re Herbs and medicine?

From: zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au (Zelda Doyle)

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:11:59 GMT



Hi!

I'm a eighteen year old student diong first year botany.  I have to

write an assignment of Plants and people, and my chosen sub topic is

new medicines old ingridents.  Does anyone know of any herbs that have

made it into the main stream medical field ie Foxgloves give

digitalis, Willow bark asprin and Opium poppies morphine and codiene.

If any knows of any others or where I may find some replies will be

gratefully accepted until the middle of september.  

Thanks in Advance

Zelda

zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Can Some please point me in the right Direction re Herbs and medicine?

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 01:08:43 GMT



In article <4vlsa1$lda@news.aus.world.net>,

   zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au (Zelda Doyle) wrote:

>Hi!

>I'm a eighteen year old student diong first year botany.  I have to

>write an assignment of Plants and people, and my chosen sub topic is

>new medicines old ingridents.  Does anyone know of any herbs that have

>made it into the main stream medical field ie Foxgloves give

>digitalis, Willow bark asprin and Opium poppies morphine and codiene.

>If any knows of any others or where I may find some replies will be

>gratefully accepted until the middle of september.  

>Thanks in Advance

>Zelda

>zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au

>

Greetings,

    You might be interested in these:

            vincristine-from the Madagascar periwinkle

            quinine- from cinchona bark

            marinol- from marijuana plants

            laetrile- from apricot pits

            hyoscyamine-from henbane et al

            yocon- from yohimbe

            scopalamine- from belladonna

            capscain- from cayenne peppers

  Also check out the Rauwolffia derivatives, and ocular drugs(miotics and 

mydriatics) That's all I come up with off the top of my head,we use many of 

the above every day in surgery.Hope my little list helps.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Can Some please point me in the right Direction re Herbs and medicine?

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 20:26:18 GMT



In <4vlsa1$lda@news.aus.world.net> zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au (Zelda

Doyle) writes: 

>

>Hi!

>I'm a eighteen year old student diong first year botany.  I have to

>write an assignment of Plants and people, and my chosen sub topic is

>new medicines old ingridents.  Does anyone know of any herbs that have

>made it into the main stream medical field ie Foxgloves give

>digitalis, Willow bark asprin and Opium poppies morphine and codiene.

>If any knows of any others or where I may find some replies will be

>gratefully accepted until the middle of september.  

>Thanks in Advance

>Zelda

>zdoyle@doylesprojects.com.au

>



I don't have any proof of this, maybe you can find some, but I take

Slippery Elm bark which does the exact same thing as a medication my

husband takes called Cytotec. It protects the stomach and can make

bowel movements a little mucousy because of it going on through you.



I wouldn't be surprised if some ingredient in Slippery Elm Bark is used

to make Cytotec.



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbs for dreaming

From: "l. bruce" <lb048@csufresno.edu>

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:06:11 -0700



Has anyone had any success with herbs used to bring dreams?  Lynda

-- 

WPCs







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: eboka@aol.com (Eboka)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 17:09:01 -0400



Tabernanthe iboga, a plant native to the West African rain forests

produces a waking dream state.



http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl



check out the Goutarel article for ethnobotanical and ethnographic

information.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: awest@mail.net-connect.net (August West)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:54:46 GMT



eboka@aol.com (Eboka) wrote:



>Tabernanthe iboga, a plant native to the West African rain forests

>produces a waking dream state.



>http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl



>check out the Goutarel article for ethnobotanical and ethnographic

>information.





Do a search on Salvia Divinorium from Mexico.  It causes lucid dreams.

It is used for divination purposes, hence the species name.  Don't

know much more about it, just read stuff in passing.



August West



"Some day I'll get up and fly away..."









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: awest@mail.net-connect.net (August West)

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: montana@sedona.net

Date: 30 Aug 1996 06:30:19 GMT



In article <321E7FB3.6DB0@csufresno.edu> <4vt3pd$bq8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <502fpt$m1o@news.net-connect.net>,

    awest@mail.net-connect.net (August West) wrote:

> 

> eboka@aol.com (Eboka) wrote:

> >Tabernanthe iboga, a plant native to the West African rain forests

> >produces a waking dream state.

> >http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl

> >check out the Goutarel article for ethnobotanical and ethnographic

> >information.

> Do a search on Salvia Divinorium from Mexico.  It causes lucid dreams.

> It is used for divination purposes, hence the species name.  Don't

> know much more about it, just read stuff in passing.

> August West

> "Some day I'll get up and fly away..."



to the one who wants info on herbs to help with dreaming, their are many herbs 

which will help to enhance the dream state by stimulating subconsious activity

naturally you will have clearer and more colorful pictures in the dream state.



try lavender, chamomile or sage and go buy a dream pillow at a metaphysical

store.



have fun!!!  montana

>

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: john@digitalaire.com (John Posner)

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:19:45 -0800



In article <321E7FB3.6DB0@csufresno.edu>, lb048@csufresno.edu wrote:



>Has anyone had any success with herbs used to bring dreams?  Lynda

>-- 

>WPCs



Haven't tried personally but the Chontal Indians of the mountains of

southern Mexico do an herb called Dream Herb or Calia Zacatechichi.



Blessings,

   John Posner



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: jverburg@ucs.indiana.edu (John M. VerBurg)

Date: 28 Aug 1996 05:17:46 GMT



: In article <321E7FB3.6DB0@csufresno.edu>, lb048@csufresno.edu wrote:



: >Has anyone had any success with herbs used to bring dreams?  Lynda

: >-- 

: >WPCs



  This maybe a little off topic, but burning incense before bedtime is

suppose to help dreaming. This only works for a couple of days before you

get used to it. I asked why this is in alt.dreams and most people agreed

that a foreign scent triggers an alarm response in the brain which is

manifested in dreaming. I myself have tried this dozens of times and, for

me at least, I have very vivid dreams for about two days before I stop. I

then take a week off and try it again. It has not failed using that

recipe. I must say most of the dreams are close to nightmarish. They have

a certain motiff of being chased.I don't know why this is.

   Also, if I eat grapefruits before I goto sleep, I have violent

agressive dreams. I have no idea why this is either. Has anyone heard any

folklore that talk ofcertain fruit invoking angry dreams?



Regards, 

John VerBurg



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: dez@faroc.com.au (desiree)

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 13:18:13 GMT



On 28 Aug 1996 05:17:46 GMT, jverburg@ucs.indiana.edu (John M.

VerBurg) wrote:



>: In article <321E7FB3.6DB0@csufresno.edu>, lb048@csufresno.edu wrote:

>

>: >Has anyone had any success with herbs used to bring dreams?  Lynda

>: >-- 

Mugwort  sachets under the pillow, catmint tea....(not catnep...)









>: >WPCs

>

>  This maybe a little off topic, but burning incense before bedtime is

>suppose to help dreaming. This only works for a couple of days before you

>get used to it. I asked why this is in alt.dreams and most people agreed

>that a foreign scent triggers an alarm response in the brain which is

>manifested in dreaming. I myself have tried this dozens of times and, for

>me at least, I have very vivid dreams for about two days before I stop. I

>then take a week off and try it again. It has not failed using that

>recipe. I must say most of the dreams are close to nightmarish. They have

>a certain motiff of being chased.I don't know why this is.

>   Also, if I eat grapefruits before I goto sleep, I have violent

>agressive dreams. I have no idea why this is either. Has anyone heard any

>folklore that talk ofcertain fruit invoking angry dreams?

>

>Regards, 

>John VerBurg





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbs for dreaming

From: Daphne M Norton <dmnorton@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 20:44:04 GMT



john@digitalaire.com (John Posner) wrote:

>

> In article <321E7FB3.6DB0@csufresno.edu>, lb048@csufresno.edu wrote:

> 

> >Has anyone had any success with herbs used to bring dreams?  Lynda

> >-- 

> >WPCs

> 





John,



I don't know of any herbs, but vitamin B-6 is supposed to allow one to 

recall dreams more readily.  This tip came from a Jungian

psychologist who specializes in dream interpretation.





--Daphne





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Photophobia

From: john@digitalaire.com (John Posner)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:29:59 -0800



An old friend of mine suffers from a hyper-sensitivity to light which the

several doctors she has consulted with over the years (at enormous

expense) have called it "Photophobia".  It is NOT a psychological

disorder; bright lights cause her extreme discomfort and even pain, hence

she wears glasses nearly as dark as welding goggles when out in the bright

Phoenix sun.



I've been monitoring this group for a few months now and the thought

occurred to me that perhaps someone here has had some experience with

someone suffering with this "orphan-disorder".  If so, I'd love to give my

friend some good news.  She's fed up with doctors and has pretty much

resolved herself to living with this most disagreeable problem, I'd love

to convey some information that will improve her quality of life.



Blessings,

   John Posner



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: nail fungus?

From: rugosa@escape.com (ROSAPHILIA)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 14:20:30 GMT



	i got toenail fungus.



	what can i use to stop it?



	ditto plantar's warts.



	okay, eddie murphy won't be dating me anytime soon, so what.



	



--

*******! Better Living Thru Better Living !*******************************

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* If You Liked This Post | Ascenza (white-wine blend),Pinot Noir --Yummy!*

**************************************************************************

		I will vote:"NONE OF THE ABOVE"



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: xxalexx@ix.netcom.com(alex peper )

Date: 25 Aug 1996 00:05:00 GMT



In <4vn33e$hcs@beyond.escape.com> rugosa@escape.com (ROSAPHILIA)

writes: 

>

>	i got toenail fungus.

>

>	what can i use to stop it?

>

>	ditto plantar's warts.

>

>	okay, eddie murphy won't be dating me anytime soon, so what.

>

>	

>

>--

>*******! Better Living Thru Better Living

!*******************************

>* Snail Me Your Rosehips | GABRIELLI Winery's (Mendocino, CA)

Zinfandel, * 

>* If You Liked This Post | Ascenza (white-wine blend),Pinot Noir

--Yummy!*

>**********************************************************************

***

>		I will vote:"NONE OF THE ABOVE"

I also need to get rid of it fast. I have used applecider vinegar,

and tea tree oil but not together. Also started using isopropyl

rubbing alcohol. If you soak your socks in morning you will see

alot of softening when you get home(also could keep bandaid wet) Aloe

vera should help heal. Have also rubbed nail with garlic. Someone also

told me use bleach(multi purpose street and prison herb). Try hydrogen

peroxide for cleaning.

Have also got desperate and used Fungi-Nail which is 25% Undecylenic

Acid. If anyone knows a natural source of this let me know.

Also just got today fungi-clear which supposedly will at least make

nail look ok. one of main ingeredients is bleach.

Alex 

    

  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: alex peper <xxalexx@ix.netcom.com>

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: Killik R I <rikill@essex.ac.uk>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:16:57 +0100





I have read Garlic is a good anti-fungal but take care not to use too much

or it will 'burn' the skin. I've read it needs to be used for an extended

period, until the fungus dies, eg 2 weeks - 1 month.



I'm not a practitioner so experiment at your own risk but maybe apply some

squeezed garlic or just juice, to the fungus daily/twice daily and put a

plater on top. If it burns use less/dilute it in a carrier cream/vaseline? 

until it is not a problem.





**********************

Rupert Killik

Colchester, Essex, UK

rikill@essex.ac.uk

**********************



On 25 Aug 1996, alex peper wrote:



> In <4vn33e$hcs@beyond.escape.com> rugosa@escape.com (ROSAPHILIA)

> writes: 

> >

> >	i got toenail fungus.

> >

> >	what can i use to stop it?

> >

> >	ditto plantar's warts.

> >

> >	okay, eddie murphy won't be dating me anytime soon, so what.

> >

> >	

> >

> >--

> >*******! Better Living Thru Better Living

> !*******************************

> >* Snail Me Your Rosehips | GABRIELLI Winery's (Mendocino, CA)

> Zinfandel, * 

> >* If You Liked This Post | Ascenza (white-wine blend),Pinot Noir

> --Yummy!*

> >**********************************************************************

> ***

> >		I will vote:"NONE OF THE ABOVE"

> I also need to get rid of it fast. I have used applecider vinegar,

> and tea tree oil but not together. Also started using isopropyl

> rubbing alcohol. If you soak your socks in morning you will see

> alot of softening when you get home(also could keep bandaid wet) Aloe

> vera should help heal. Have also rubbed nail with garlic. Someone also

> told me use bleach(multi purpose street and prison herb). Try hydrogen

> peroxide for cleaning.

> Have also got desperate and used Fungi-Nail which is 25% Undecylenic

> Acid. If anyone knows a natural source of this let me know.

> Also just got today fungi-clear which supposedly will at least make

> nail look ok. one of main ingeredients is bleach.

> Alex 

>     

>   

> 

> 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: xxalexx@ix.netcom.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: Penny Freshwater <pfreshwa@hr.house.gov>

Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:48:03 GMT



my husband had great luck using acidopholus and garlic.(Kyolic)...one of 

each daily for a month and the fungus went away







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: "John J. McGarvey" <johnengr@netlabs.net>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:22:32 -0700



>ROSAPHILIA wrote:

> 

>         i got toenail fungus.

> 

>         what can i use to stop it?

> 

>         ditto plantar's warts.

> 

>         okay, eddie murphy won't be dating me anytime soon, so what.

> 



  I've had a few fungus problems in the past.  I don't know of a herbal remedy but there 

are a couple of over the counter items that will work.  The first of these is Tolnaffate 

which is sold under the name Tinactin.  It comes in different forms.  Use the liquid 

form for under nail infections.  One warning with this stuff.  Use it until the 

infection is completely gone.  If you stop before this, it will not work the second time 

around.

  There is also a medication called Lotrimin (I'm not sure of the spelling).  This is 

also available over the counter now in the US.  There is a liquid form for treating 

under the nail fungus.

  I also recommend wearing white cotton socks whenever possible until it's all cleared 

up.

  As to the warts, I once had them as well.  There is an over the counter product called 

Compound W.  I believe this is an organic acid in a thick base to keep it on the wart.  

I used it for a small wart that I had on my hand.  It worked but not all that well.  You 

might be better off seeing your family doctor for the warts.  They have stuff that works 

well on them.

  By the way, a doctor once told me that vitamin A helps clear up warts although I've 

never known anyone to be cured by this alone.



                                          Good Luck,



                                          Big John



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: email.naturesway@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:04:52 GMT



rugosa@escape.com (ROSAPHILIA) wrote:



>	i got toenail fungus.



>	what can i use to stop it?







Our remedy is  NEEM oil based.



Neem is known to work very well against fungi, last month the Floral

and Nursery Plants Research Unit of the U.S.National Arboretum

Agricultural Research  Service issued the following statement :



" WASHINGTON, March 3-- Raindrops falling on the leaves of ornamentals

like roses and lilacs can spread nasty fungi to these and other

flowering plants. But U.S. Department of Agriculture research shows

that oil from a tropical tree stops fungi from infecting the plants.

....

" Oil extracted from the Neem tree, native to India in a dilution of 1

percent neem oil in water "acts like a raincoat" against spores of

fungi ".



When we became aware of the anti-fungi working of Neem we made an oil

and later a cream in which we used Neem as the fatty (carrier) oil. We

then gave it to people suffering from athlete's feet with staggering

results.



Of the 30 samples we gave 22 people cured their problem within 3 days.



With 2 people it had little or no effect and by 1 person it seemed to

get worse !



Since then we have used name together with St.Johns Worth macerate,

with Almond oil, and with evening primrose oil against inflamed skin

and dry eczema.



In combination with chamomile and oregano it works splendidly,

although it takes time, for curing those ugly crumbling toe nails. 



Infected nail beddings, dipped with Neem Oil at night, will the next

morning look clean and healthy.



We have refined the product and blended it with seven other oils to

create a much faster working.



regards



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nail fungus?

From: jerry smith <jsmith@en.com>

Date: 27 Aug 1996 13:47:01 GMT



rugosa@escape.com (ROSAPHILIA) wrote:

>

> 	i got toenail fungus.

> 

> 	what can i use to stop it?

> 

> 	ditto plantar's warts.

> 

> 	okay, eddie murphy won't be dating me anytime soon, so what.

> 

> 	

> 

> --

> *******! Better Living Thru Better Living !*******************************

> * Snail Me Your Rosehips | GABRIELLI Winery's (Mendocino, CA) Zinfandel, * 

> * If You Liked This Post | Ascenza (white-wine blend),Pinot Noir --Yummy!*

> **************************************************************************

> 		I will vote:"NONE OF THE ABOVE"



Forget the fancy (and probably expensive) creams. Tea tree oil, plain,

works well to heal nail fungus. It is available in any good health

food or herb store and in some pharmacies. It is not real expensive.

Use a Q-tip to put a small amount on the affected area in the evening

near bedtime. A very small number of people may have a irritation from

using Tea tree oil so try it on one spot only and wait several hours

to be sure you tolerate it well... ( the first time you use it ).



                             In good health, Jerry  



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Colon/body cleansing

From: pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M. McAvoy)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 16:20:59 GMT





Does anybody in this newsgroup have any opinions as to which herbs would be 

best for helping to clean out toxins, etc.. in the colon, as well as other 

organs of the body.     Are their any multi-herb supplements that would 

address this?   Anything that would be great for "full-body cleansing"?



For that matter, is anyone familiar with Arise & Shine's "Clean-Me-Out" 

program (featured at:  http://www.slip.net/~yyoung/young1.html)?

Any opinions on this?   It's expensive, but it sounds interesting.



Thanks.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Colon/body cleansing

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:05:25 GMT



On 24 Aug 1996 16:20:59 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M.

McAvoy) wrote:



>Does anybody in this newsgroup have any opinions as to which herbs would be 

>best for helping to clean out toxins, etc.. in the colon, as well as other 

>organs of the body.     Are their any multi-herb supplements that would 

>address this?   Anything that would be great for "full-body cleansing"?



Look in any good herbal for 'spring tonics'.



Now, in fall, I'd grab dandelion root, nettle seed and burdock root or seed

(Arctium), for starters. AND of course all the berries I can lay my hands on,

that would be bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus), rowanberry (Sorbus aucuparia),

lingonberry (Vaccinium vitis-idaea), cranberry (Vaccinium oxycoccos), crowberry

(Empetrum nigrum), black currant (Ribes nigrum) ...



>For that matter, is anyone familiar with Arise & Shine's "Clean-Me-Out" 

>program (featured at:  http://www.slip.net/~yyoung/young1.html)?



'Program'? Naaa. PLANTS is LOTS better, and you'll get exercise picking the

things, too. MORE cleaning action.



Henriette



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      /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Colon/body cleansing

From: pmcavoy@cyberspc.mb.ca (M. McAvoy)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 05:04:28 GMT



In article <3220a356.778287@news.eunet.fi>, HeK@hetta.pp.fi says...



Thanks for the info.



>>For that matter, is anyone familiar with Arise & Shine's "Clean-Me-Out" 

>>program (featured at:  http://www.slip.net/~yyoung/young1.html)?

>

>'Program'? Naaa. PLANTS is LOTS better, and you'll get exercise picking the

>things, too. MORE cleaning action.



It's a combination of herbs, etc... that clean out the colon.  

I can't remember what the various things are exactly...  if you know a lot 

about herbs, etc. maybe you could check it out and give me your opinion. :)

(I really wouldn't know if it's what it says it is or not.  I don't know 

that much about the various effects of herbs.)







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Insomnia

From: Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:24:27 -0400



Laura,



Hi!  I have the same problem with occasional insomnia.  I drink a strong

tea made of chamomile and spearmint.  It tastes really good and it's

relaxing.  I drink a cupful right before I go to bed and make a point to

try and relax and read or something while I drink it.  I hope it helps

you!



Kat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Insomnia

From: mgreene@origin.ea.com (Melanie Greene)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:05:32 GMT



In article <321F2CBB.33E4@usit.net> Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net> writes:

In article <321F2CBB.33E4@usit.net> Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net> writes:

>From: Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net>

>Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

>Subject: Insomnia

>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:24:27 -0400

>Organization: United States Internet, Inc.

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>Laura,



>Hi!  I have the same problem with occasional insomnia.  I drink a strong

>tea made of chamomile and spearmint.  It tastes really good and it's

>relaxing.  I drink a cupful right before I go to bed and make a point to

>try and relax and read or something while I drink it.  I hope it helps

>you!



>Kat





A spoonful (or so) of honey works wonders, too!



mfh



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Insomnia

From: awest@mail.net-connect.net (August West)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:56:12 GMT



mgreene@origin.ea.com (Melanie Greene) wrote:



>In article <321F2CBB.33E4@usit.net> Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net> writes:

>In article <321F2CBB.33E4@usit.net> Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net> writes:

>>From: Jackie Jernigan <jackiej@usit.net>

>>Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

>>Subject: Insomnia

>>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:24:27 -0400

>>Organization: United States Internet, Inc.

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>>Message-ID: <321F2CBB.33E4@usit.net>

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>>Laura,



>>Hi!  I have the same problem with occasional insomnia.  I drink a strong

>>tea made of chamomile and spearmint.  It tastes really good and it's

>>relaxing.  I drink a cupful right before I go to bed and make a point to

>>try and relax and read or something while I drink it.  I hope it helps

>>you!



>>Kat





>A spoonful (or so) of honey works wonders, too!



>mfh





Valerian and Passionflower and Kava Kava.....



Good Night!

August West



"Some day I'll get up and fly away..."









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Natural Sweetener?

From: Paul Carufel <carufel@leland.Stanford.EDU>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:29:57 -0700



Hi folks,

I heard a news story this morning about a natural sweetener/herb called

"Estivia". I want to grow some in the SFBayArea. Any comments/thoughts?

Thanks.

Paul





So Many Books, So Little Time!!!



The Basics - Beer, BBQ and Beans!!



carufel@leland.stanford.edu

carufel@wahoo.stanford.edu











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Sweetener?

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 03:43:01 GMT



In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.960824092741.14014A-100000@elaine39.Stanford.EDU>,

   Paul Carufel <carufel@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

>Hi folks,

>I heard a news story this morning about a natural sweetener/herb called

>"Estivia". I want to grow some in the SFBayArea. Any comments/thoughts?

>Thanks.

>Paul

>

>

>So Many Books, So Little Time!!!

>

>The Basics - Beer, BBQ and Beans!!

>

>carufel@leland.stanford.edu

>carufel@wahoo.stanford.edu

>

>

>

>Hello,

    Stevia Rebaudiana is a South American herb 80-100 times sweeter than 

sucrose.It seems this herb is safe for diabetics and beneficial to the 

pancreas, though I don't know what the latest is.The makers of certain 

artificial sweeteners already on the market have been blocking the approval of 

stevia for a long time,so you may not see it commonly offered for a long 

time.However there are some companies that offer stevia products.Sorry no 

addresses.If you find the herb in the herb store, though, you can powder some 

and stir it into food,or dissolve 1 rounded teaspoon into 1 cup of water, then 

use4-5 drops to equal 1 teaspoon of sugar.This will keep in the fridge several 

days.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Sweetener?

From: jerry smith <jsmith@en.com>

Date: 26 Aug 1996 23:52:49 GMT



Paul Carufel <carufel@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

>

> Hi folks,

> I heard a news story this morning about a natural sweetener/herb called

> "Estivia". I want to grow some in the SFBayArea. Any comments/thoughts?

> Thanks.

> Paul

> 

> 

> So Many Books, So Little Time!!!

> 

> The Basics - Beer, BBQ and Beans!!

> 

> carufel@leland.stanford.edu

> carufel@wahoo.stanford.edu

> 

> 

> 

> 

Paul.....The name of the herb is Stevia. (Stevia Rebaudiana). I've

used it to sweeten my spag. sauce, instead of sugar, and it made a

great tasting batch! Didn't work so well in baking though...more

experimentation needed. It's a tropical plant so it might now grow

real well in San Fran.      



                               In good health, Jerry



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Sweetener?

From: "p.whitmer" <pwhitmer@bcpl.lib.md.us>

Date: 27 Aug 1996 14:36:44 GMT



Hi 

I've been using Stevia for awhile now with great results.  I buy it in

powdered form at the drug store

for $9.00 an ounce.  May sound expensive, but you only need a small amount.

 I have had great success with it in baking, 1tsp. equals[no pun intended]

the sweetness of 1 CUP of sugar.



Enjoy.

Jo Ann [on husbands account]



jerry smith <jsmith@en.com> wrote in article <4vtdch$ems@antares.en.com>...

> Paul Carufel <carufel@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

> >

> > Hi folks,

> > I heard a news story this morning about a natural sweetener/herb called

> > "Estivia". I want to grow some in the SFBayArea. Any comments/thoughts?

> > Thanks.

> > Paul

> > 

> > 

> > So Many Books, So Little Time!!!

> > 

> > The Basics - Beer, BBQ and Beans!!

> > 

> > carufel@leland.stanford.edu

> > carufel@wahoo.stanford.edu

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> Paul.....The name of the herb is Stevia. (Stevia Rebaudiana). I've

> used it to sweeten my spag. sauce, instead of sugar, and it made a

> great tasting batch! Didn't work so well in baking though...more

> experimentation needed. It's a tropical plant so it might now grow

> real well in San Fran.      

> 

>                                In good health, Jerry

> 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. John's Wort & sun (it's the HANDLING!)

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 09:43:01 -0700



vhlushak@awinc.com (Vic Hlushak) wrote:



> I use SJW a lot and rec. it to others. If there are people out there

>who have had a sensitivity to the sun I would love to talk to you. So

>far I have found nobody who has had a problem just a lot of second

>hand reports. It could be the old "refine a herb to death and feed

>huge amounts to animals " problem!



   No ... it's the old "what makes you photoreactive on contact might

not make you photoreactive when you eat it instead of fondle it"

situation.

  If you are picking and processing SJW, be sure to wash it off your

skin VERY thoroughly afterwards.  A hefty minority can get a rash at

the spots the plant was in contact with the skin if that skin is

exposed to the sun to a certain (variable) degree afterwards.  Nasty

weeping blistery itchy rash.

  Cows who eat SJW will naturally get it on their noses ... and they

can go off their feed from the pain of the rash and their milk

production goes down.  Actually, reddish-tinted milk can happen if the

cow really pigs out on the SJW ... the hypericum passes into the milk.

Callie



Callie@writepage.com            | Captain, HTML Police

http://www.writepage.com        | Keeper of the HTML Flame







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: nutritional therapy for endometriosis

From: jmoore6@ix.netcom.com (John H. Moore )

Date: 24 Aug 1996 16:58:49 GMT



Does anyone have any information on alternative therapies for

endometriosis. Any information on the use of herbs or nutrition to aid

in relieving the discomfort, as well as, a cure or at least a means to

remission would be greatly apprieciated.



Please E-Mail any help to:



jmoore6@ix.netcom.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nutritional therapy for endometriosis

From: gprell@deltanet.com (George Prell)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 22:58:16 GMT



In article <4vncc9$3ge@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, jmoore6@ix.netcom.com 

says...

>

>Does anyone have any information on alternative therapies for

>endometriosis. Any information on the use of herbs or nutrition to aid

>in relieving the discomfort, as well as, a cure or at least a means to

>remission would be greatly apprieciated.

>

>Please E-Mail any help to:

>

>jmoore6@ix.netcom.com



I suggest you get a copy of "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About 

Menopause" a new book by John R. Lee, MD.

Dr. Lee's book is 372 pages (with 96 references from the literature)

and has an excellent description of the female reproductive system 

starting with puberty - the title is really not inclusive enough.  

In his 40 year practice, he found that some women had anovolatory 

cycles due to stress and excess estrogen in pre-menopause. He was 

able to treat PMS and many other bad effects of "estrogen dominance 

syndrome" by having women use non-prescription NATURAL progesterone 

transdermal cream supplements during the later part of their cycle 

when progesterone should be produced by their ovaries after ovulation.

Low progesterone levels were associated with a much higher incidence of 

cancer in a 20 year study done at Johns Hopkins reported in 1981. 

I really can't do this book justice - you have to read it for yourself.

One of the bad effects that is alleviated is excessive bleeding due to

endometriosis.







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: nutritional therapy for endometriosis

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:28:55 GMT



On 24 Aug 1996 16:58:49 GMT, jmoore6@ix.netcom.com (John H. Moore ) wrote:



>Does anyone have any information on alternative therapies for

>endometriosis. Any information on the use of herbs or nutrition to aid

>in relieving the discomfort, as well as, a cure or at least a means to

>remission would be greatly apprieciated.



Here's something alternative:



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:30:09 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Re: endometriosis

From: "Ronald Hoggan, Queen Elizabeth High School" <RBHOGGAN@cbe.ab.ca>



I don't have any citations on this topic, but I would like to share an

experience.



My daughter has always had very painful periods. Time after time, she has

gone to the emergency ward to be given one drug or another to quell the 

pain. About 2 years ago, she had settled into a routine of taking Tylenol

with codeine for most of the time, and morphine for the one or two days

that were the worst. 



On the basis of some of my research, and in spite of gastroenterologist 

who insisted she didn't have celiac disease, I convinced her that a gluten

free diet was worth trying. 



Her GP, having observed the results, has diagnosed her as gluten

intolerant. Several things resulted:

She no longer takes morphine. She still takes the occasional tylenol during

her period, but she has worked 12 hour shifts all the way through her

period. This is a girl who had difficulty putting in an 8 hour shift before

going gluten-free. 



Now to the interesting part:

The doctors began with suggesting that the pain she was in was due to

becoming sexually active so young......seventeen is not that young!



The next diagnosis was clymidia (sp?).

There were problems with that diagnosis.



Then she underwent a surgical procedure where they make an incision in the 

abdomen, and go in with a tube with a magnifying glass on it. Guess  what?

They found endometriosis. 



Well, nothing much helped until the gluten-free diet. Even the pain killers

were losing the ability to keep the pain in check. 



My daughter is a young woman in her early twenties. She has been victimized

in one sense, but many people go their whole lives in that pain, so I don't

want to be too critical. What I do want to suggest is that anyone who has

a diagnosis of endometriosis, or is troubled by very painful periods, 

might be very pleasantly surprised by the results of a gluten-free diet. 



I am not a medical person. I am a father with celiac disease who believes

that all first degree relatives of a celiac should be given serum antibody

tests for endomysium antibodies. I also believe that if male doctors 

experienced painful menstruation every 28 days or so, much more research 

would be done on that issue. I think they would discover celiac disease

in many cases. 



I hope that is helpful.



Sincerely,

Ron Hoggan



========================



For more information on celiac disease this page is a list of annotated

links to all web pages on this subject:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Supplier of peppermint oil capsules ?

From: massmj@aol.com (MASSMJ)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 14:03:33 -0400



Is any one aware of a supplier for 

peppermint oil capsules.  They are used for

gastrointestinal problems.



Name of company, address,phone, or fax, or email

would be appreciated.



Thanks,



MJ Mass



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Any herbs that kill girardia?

From: Shddemon@cris.com (SHADOWDEMON)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 18:10:31 GMT



I was up in the mountains, had NO water (drank it all) was very thirsty,

so decided I'd take my chances and drink some mountain stream water.. 



I felt kind of sick a couple days later, so I made this: 



Took powdered/whole/liquid herbs and put them in a blender:

Garlic (one clove)

Ginger (powder)

Stevia (powder)

Siberian Ginseng (powder)

Dave's Insanity Sauce (purified chili pepper extract & chili peppers) 



Then I made an infusion of sassafras and catnip, poured that in the

blender, added some water, and blended it for awhile... 



I feel better after drinking it, but I can't drink much at once, shot

glasses help.. Just cuz of the amount of chili peppers. 



Would this kill girardia, or bad bacteria from the creek water? I don't

feel near as sick now... As long as I have a good couple of shot glasses

worth of this stuff every day..



(BTW, this was 6 days ago when I drank the creek water) 



Any other herbs u think could help?







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any herbs that kill girardia?

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:50:38 GMT



In article <4vngin$mde@herald.concentric.net> Shddemon@cris.com (SHADOWDEMON) writes:

>

>I was up in the mountains, had NO water (drank it all) was very thirsty,

>so decided I'd take my chances and drink some mountain stream water.. 



>I felt kind of sick a couple days later, so I made this: 



>Took powdered/whole/liquid herbs and put them in a blender:

>Garlic (one clove)

>Ginger (powder)

>Stevia (powder)

>Siberian Ginseng (powder)

>Dave's Insanity Sauce (purified chili pepper extract & chili peppers) 



>Then I made an infusion of sassafras and catnip, poured that in the

>blender, added some water, and blended it for awhile... 



>I feel better after drinking it, but I can't drink much at once, shot

>glasses help.. Just cuz of the amount of chili peppers. 



>Would this kill girardia, or bad bacteria from the creek water? I don't

>feel near as sick now... As long as I have a good couple of shot glasses

>worth of this stuff every day..



>(BTW, this was 6 days ago when I drank the creek water) 



>Any other herbs u think could help?





I recommend you see a physician and take antibiotics.  He will probably 

prescribe Flagyl (metronidazole).  This will get rid of the parasite.  



Vipor



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: healing the liver

From: userhoppo@aol.com (USERHOPPO)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 14:52:19 -0400



My liver was damaged from auto immune hepitutis so bad the doctors were

wanting to put me on a transplant list.  They told me to get my affairs in

order(we

all knows what that means).  I saw Dr. Weil of University of Arizona on

Prime Time

tv show, got his book Natural Healing/Natural Medicine from the local book

store and looked up liver. I started taking SUPER milk thistle (2 pills

twice a day) along with schizandra (2 pills twice a day), 1 good multi

vitamin a day, 800 mg dry powered vitamin a day, 3000 mg vitamin c

(powdered) in 16 OZ orange juice a day,

and changed my lifestyle, I stay away from everything chemical from gas

fumes to

deoderant and makeup and all preservatives of any kind, eat nothing canned

or processed, only fresh fruits and vegetables, and cook my own meats, no

bacon, ham or other processed foods.



Within 4 months my liver functions were normal and I feel great.  I

started this in

July 1994 and by October 1994 I really felt good.  I continue to this day

taking the

above on a daily basis, now have my life back and my strength, and am

going about my daily life as I did before I got sick.



By staying away from as many chemicals and their fumes as possible, eating

only

fresh foods, gave my liver a rest so it could heal and the above vitamins

and herbs

cleansed my liver and built up my immune system.



I hope this writing will help someone out there.  Yes, I was on presoine

(80mg) to start and down from there, I weaned myself off after 6 weeks of

starting the herbs,



Yes, the doctors wanted me to take Imuran ( a drug transplant patients

take to help with rejection), but the main side effect tumors that cause

cancer was a risk I was unwilling to take. Yes, my doctors thought I was

whacko, and warned me I was killing myself, but they offered no cure so I

cured myself.  I did continue having my blood checked every month by the

doctor, but said nothing about why I was getting better.  Now, I have to

get blood checked only 3 or 4 times a year.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ogy doggy

From: userhoppo@aol.com (USERHOPPO)

Date: 24 Aug 1996 15:04:28 -0400



try super milk thistle for your son's condition



Dr. Weil's book Natural Healing/Natural medicine is a good source of

information.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Harvesting echinacea

From: "Andrea Orth" <android@ice.net>

Date: 24 Aug 1996 20:14:14 GMT



My father and some of his friends have wild echinacea(purple coneflower)

growing on their farm, does anyone know who would be interested in buying

the echinacea?	

Also, is the root the only part that is commonly used or are there other

parts of the

plant that have medicinal value?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Artemisia

From: "l. bruce" <lb048@csufresno.edu>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:31:10 -0700



Can anyone tell me the folklore associated with Artemisia?  Someone told

it has something to do with childbirth.  Someone else said that if was

used to bring on one's menstrual cycle.  Lynda  

-- 

WPCs







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Artemisia

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 10:31:52 EST



In article <321F668E.4B18@csufresno.edu>, lb048@csufresno.edu says...

>

>Can anyone tell me the folklore associated with Artemisia?  Someone told

>it has something to do with childbirth.  Someone else said that if was

>used to bring on one's menstrual cycle.  Lynda  



Haven't heard of those uses for it.  Some types are used as 

antiparasitics, and to help digestion.  I would not recommend

it to someone pregnant.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Dong Quai

From: Jef Bateman <jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:37:58 -0700



Can somebody give me a rundown on this herb?  I am especially interested 

in its effect on the thyroid and on hormones.  Also, an honest treatment 

of possible toxic effects would be *great*.



Jeffrey A. Bateman             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Arizona State University       \   Perfection of means and    \

Religious Studies               \   confusion of ends seem     \

Graduate Student                 \   to characterize our age.   \ 

e-mail jefbtmn@asu.edu            \             --Albert Einstein\ 

                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Dong Quai

From: Peter.Bijlsma@net.HCC.nl (Peter Bijlsma)

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:32:42 GMT



Jef Bateman <jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu> wrote:



>Can somebody give me a rundown on this herb?  I am especially interested 

>in its effect on the thyroid and on hormones.  Also, an honest treatment 

>of possible toxic effects would be *great*.





Hello Jeffrey (and others)



I'm sorry I don't know the English name of Dong Quai, but the Latin

name is Angelica Sinensis. According to my information this herb is

available in capsules of 520 mg (e.g. Solgar). This herb can be used

as a treatment of  menopause-symptoms. 



This herb has properties as stimulating the bloodcirculation, it helps

calming down a person and it could have a good effect on the

oestrogene balance. 



Hope this helps, regards,



         (__)        `. ,'  Peter en Ria Bijlsma 

 `\------(oo)          X    e-mail: Peter.Bijlsma@net.HCC.nl    __o

 * ||    (__)   U    ,'A`.  the Netherlands                   _`\<,_

 * ||w--||     \|/    /_\   (Holland, you know!)             (_)/ (_)



 

   









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: thyroid

From: Jef Bateman <jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:41:37 -0700



Can somebody tell me what the indications of a poorly functioning thyroid 

are?  My wife was told she should get hers checked, but she will not, 

since it costs so much.  Also, any valid herbal suggestions would be helpful.



Jeffrey A. Bateman             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Arizona State University       \   Perfection of means and    \

Religious Studies               \   confusion of ends seem     \

Graduate Student                 \   to characterize our age.   \ 

e-mail jefbtmn@asu.edu            \             --Albert Einstein\ 

                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: thyroid

From: bidinotto.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (vipor)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:53:05 GMT



In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960824194010.21113C-100000@general2.asu.edu> Jef Bateman <jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu> writes:

>Path:



>Can somebody tell me what the indications of a poorly functioning thyroid 

>are?  My wife was told she should get hers checked, but she will not, 

>since it costs so much.  Also, any valid herbal suggestions would be helpful.



>Jeffrey A. Bateman             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Arizona State University       \   Perfection of means and    \

>Religious Studies               \   confusion of ends seem     \

>Graduate Student                 \   to characterize our age.   \ 

>e-mail jefbtmn@asu.edu            \             --Albert Einstein\ 

>                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Symptoms of hypothyroidism



lethargy, weight gain, hair loss, slow heart beat, dry skin, .....

I would save the money and get it checked out.  The thyroid hormone is very 

important to the metabolic processes going on in her body.  Good luck



vipor



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: thyroid

From: rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 00:44:19 GMT



Jef Bateman (jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu) wrote:

: Can somebody tell me what the indications of a poorly functioning thyroid 

: are?  My wife was told she should get hers checked, but she will not, 

: since it costs so much.  Also, any valid herbal suggestions would be helpful.



	Hi Jeff,



	According to my reference (Smart Drugs/Nutrients), you should be

able to detect for it by taking her oral temperature for 10 minutes in the

morning upon waking.... They (SDN) says below 97.8F is a clue for

hypothyroidism;  that is, it COULD be.   Try not to fall in the trap of

self-medicating though - all sorts of nasty things could happen

(hyperthyroidism?)



	As for herbs, licorice is traditional.  How about Yoga/Aerobic

exercises and sleeping more?





...Rodney (who's never been a doctor...so YMMV)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid)

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: thyroid

From: epetee@baldwinw.edu

Date: 30 Aug 1996 00:07:50 GMT



In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960824194010.21113C-100000@general2.asu.edu> <4vqs13$ich@daily-planet.execpc.com>,

    rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid) wrote:

> 

> Jef Bateman (jabatmn@imap1.asu.edu) wrote:

> : Can somebody tell me what the indications of a poorly functioning thyroid 

> : are?  My wife was told she should get hers checked, but she will not, 

> : since it costs so much.  Also, any valid herbal suggestions would be helpful.

> 	



For self-testing of thyroid function I recommend you actually

 get two thermometers and place one in your mouth and one 

under your arm as soon as you wake up and before you begin to get going. Do this for at leats three days and

 average results. Oral, of course, should be about 98.6 while underam temperature should

range 97.8-98.2. Oh, keep thermometers in place 10 minutes



There are dozens, perhaps hundreds of conditions affected by thyroid function. Fatigue is one common, but not 

always present, possible indicator. MANY MORE. For more info

there are books on subclinical (won't show in lab work) hypothyroidism available from most libraries. E-mail me for titles.



My kinesiologist would add here that no organ, gland, or for that  matter anything

else in the body fuctions alone. The thyroid connects to so many systems and has so

 many vital functions that the source of the problem, or

 cofactors could exist elsewhere, such as liver, adrenals, spleen, etc...



Speaking of herbs GAIA HERBS suggest bladderwrack for low thyroid, but this is the only reference I have seen

for this.



Healing blessings,



-Evan

(sharer of ideas, not a doctor!)



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: thyroid

From: stoneple@sedona.net (Ancient Voices)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:45:23 GMT



Just took a visit to the dr.  Which is difficult to tolerate, but I

had symptoms and didn't know any alternative healers, having just

moved to the area.  She suggested a thyroid blood test as well as a

EKG.  She ordered the EKG, due to inconsitant heart beat.  All of

which I did.  The test came back "with in normal range".  Now, I have

had hair loss (a great deal to the point of bald spots) on and off

over the last 7 years, at times extreme fatigue and weight gain.  I do

not eat unhealty or over eat, but I cannot lose weight.  I have

utilized many minerals, vitamins, and done Hulda Clarks parasite

program without success.  What is "normal" for some is not so normal

for others.  I also have experienced fainting spells periodically over

the last few years and my temp taken at any given time in the day is

lower then average.  I have been diagnosed by others with cronic

fatigue, but who has not got this?  



Any suggestions?  Tami











From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Frequent Urination- not UT infection..

From: brownm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BROWN  MARGARET SAXON)

Date: 25 Aug 96 03:28:12 GMT





   Hi-



  I have a friend that is a very frequent urinator- she does not have a

urinary tract or bladder or kidney infection, she just has to pee all the

time!  Another friend told her about Papaya Seed for this, but I have been

unable to find this, and Boulder certainly has some herb stores!



  Does anyone have any advise I can pass along to her?  She is counting on

me to find a solution to her annoying, but not life-threatening problem.



  I saw bottle of "Urinary Strength Blend" at the store the other day-

does anyone know what the story about that might be?  I don't remember

what's in it, and I realize that could limit comment...



Thanks.

-- 

*Saxon Brown                        *

*Department of EPO Biology          *

*University of Colorado at Boulder  *

*brownm@rintintin.colorado.edu      *



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Frequent Urination- not UT infection..

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:48:15 GMT



On 25 Aug 96, brownm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BROWN MARGARET SAXON) wrote:



>  I have a friend that is a very frequent urinator- she does not have a

>urinary tract or bladder or kidney infection, she just has to pee all the

>time!  Another friend told her about Papaya Seed for this, but I have been

>unable to find this, and Boulder certainly has some herb stores!

>

>  Does anyone have any advise I can pass along to her?  She is counting on

>me to find a solution to her annoying, but not life-threatening problem.



Excessive thirst and frequent urination can be signs of diabetes. I would

find it hard to believe frequent urination isn't happening without also

drinking a lot. She should get tested for this.



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Frequent Urination- not UT infection..

From: rkat@ix.netcom.com(Charlene M Pieczonka)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 20:39:23 GMT



In <32206684.100113774@news.panix.com> donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

writes: 

>

>On 25 Aug 96, brownm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BROWN MARGARET SAXON)

wrote:

>

>>  I have a friend that is a very frequent urinator- she does not have

a

>>urinary tract or bladder or kidney infection, she just has to pee all

the

>>time!  Another friend told her about Papaya Seed for this, but I have

been

>>unable to find this, and Boulder certainly has some herb stores!

>>

>>  Does anyone have any advise I can pass along to her?  She is

counting on

>>me to find a solution to her annoying, but not life-threatening

problem.

>

>Excessive thirst and frequent urination can be signs of diabetes. I

would

>find it hard to believe frequent urination isn't happening without

also

>drinking a lot. She should get tested for this.

>

>Don.



I'd go along with what Don says, rule out diabetes first. Then check

into whether or not she has a small bladder. There are exercises one

can do, such as waiting as long as you can before urinating, that can

help you be able to go for longer and longer periods before you have to

go.



I can't breathe well through my nose due to allergies, so I breathe

through my mouth alot. Because of this my mouth gets dry so I'm either

sucking on something most of the time or have something handy to drink.

Year round, ice water even in the winter.

Because of this I take in alot of fluids. From school and jobs I have

had to learn to "hold it" despite the amount of fluids I drink. Because

of THAT I generally only have to go to the bathroom 2-3 times a day

despite how much I drink.



But definately rule out diabetes, that's nothing to mess around with.



Cookie





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Frequent Urination- not UT infection..

From: wonk@la.de.da.net (Willy N. Wonkle)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:46:36 GMT



On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:48:15 GMT, donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss) wrote:



>On 25 Aug 96, brownm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BROWN MARGARET SAXON) wrote:

>

>>  I have a friend that is a very frequent urinator- she does not have a

>>urinary tract or bladder or kidney infection, she just has to pee all the

>>time!  Another friend told her about Papaya Seed for this, but I have been

>>unable to find this, and Boulder certainly has some herb stores!

>>

>>  Does anyone have any advise I can pass along to her?  She is counting on

>>me to find a solution to her annoying, but not life-threatening problem.

>

>Excessive thirst and frequent urination can be signs of diabetes. I would

>find it hard to believe frequent urination isn't happening without also

>drinking a lot. She should get tested for this.

>

>Don.

How do yo know it isn't life threatening? A sign of

Diabetes is excessive urination and diabetes IS

life threatening. Please encourage your friend to

see a Dr. immediately...



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Need Data On Herb Consumption

From: slow@fast.net

Date: 25 Aug 1996 04:22:37 GMT



Does anyone know of Internet  references which would give me info

on herb consumption in the U.S?



I want to do some research for a friend.  He is mainly interested

in herbs consumed in restaraunts and in industrial applications

such as Campbells Soup.



Hardcopy refernces would be o.k. also.



Thanks for reading this far!



Gary





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

To: slow@fast.net

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Need Data On Herb Consumption

From: "Dr. Joe K. Clema" <clemaj@neurosystems.com>

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:20:07 -0400



slow@fast.net wrote:

Dr, Goh is a recognized leader. 



http://juniper.mecnet.org/isma/indexherbs.html



She provides access to a health network.

 

> Does anyone know of Internet  references which would give me info

> on herb consumption in the U.S?

> 

> I want to do some research for a friend.  He is mainly interested

> in herbs consumed in restaraunts and in industrial applications

> such as Campbells Soup.

> 

> Hardcopy refernces would be o.k. also.

> 

> Thanks for reading this far!

> 

> Gary



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: herbal treatment for menopause

From: "Msoscia" <Msoscia@oakweb.com>

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:48:28 -0700



Am looking for any help regarding herbal remedies for menopause.  Am

trying to delay the normal treatment with estrogen supplements; have no

problems with the change but I am against the estrogen.  What is taken for

bones? Am also diabetic and am trying to prevent late-in life

complications related to menopause and diabetes.

mail me any suggestions/help at:  Msoscia@oakweb.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Stevia...the Ultra Sweet Herb

From: gel@best.com (Gary Lindgren)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:33:42



Aug. 25, 1996

Yesterday on PBS radio Scott Simon discussed in an interview a herb that had a 

very sweet taste. The name sounded like Stevia. Does anybody know the latin 

name of this herb from Paraguay. The Japanese heve been using the herb as a 

sweetener for beverages for the past 12 years.

Gary Lindgren

Palo Alto  CA



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Stevia...the Ultra Sweet Herb

From: rreid@earth.execpc.com (Rodney Reid)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 15:57:41 GMT



Gary Lindgren (gel@best.com) wrote:

: Aug. 25, 1996

: Yesterday on PBS radio Scott Simon discussed in an interview a herb that had a 

: very sweet taste. The name sounded like Stevia. Does anybody know the latin 

: name of this herb from Paraguay. The Japanese heve been using the herb as a 

: sweetener for beverages for the past 12 years.

: Gary Lindgren

: Palo Alto  CA



Gary,



	I don't have that information handy (the latin name), but it IS

available at most health food stores now  (this wasn't the case a couple

years back).    



	I bought some NOW brand stevia extract for ~10.00.   Very very

sweet.   Seems like it's only good for certain things (like iced-tea), but

I don't use it for other things (coffee).



	My question to the newsgroup:   Has anybody ever tried baking with

stevia, making hard candy, etc?    





..Rodney





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Stevia...the Ultra Sweet Herb

From: Kris  Gammon <AncientOne@gnn.com>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 12:53:31







 Does

> anybody know the latin 

>name of this herb from Paraguay. 



Stevia rebaudiana is the genus and species. The family is 

asteraceae. It contains "Stevisoid" a natural sweetener, 

which is 300 times as sweet as sugar but the body does 

not absorb it and it has no calories. It also has a high 

floride and mineral content and does not create tooth 

cavities.



Kris



**********************************

Primitive Alternatives

Ancient Medicinal Traditions

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Stevia...the Ultra Sweet Herb

From: HerbsNMassage@cwo.com

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 16:02:13 GMT



Kris  Gammon <AncientOne@gnn.com> lightly touched ink to paper and

wrote:

> Does

>> anybody know the latin 

>>name of this herb from Paraguay. 



>Stevia rebaudiana is the genus and species. The family is 

>asteraceae. It contains "Stevisoid" a natural sweetener, 

>which is 300 times as sweet as sugar but the body does 

>not absorb it and it has no calories. It also has a high 

>floride and mineral content and does not create tooth 

>cavities.

>Kris

>**********************************

>Primitive Alternatives

>Ancient Medicinal Traditions

>800-700-5095 360-715-1262

>**********************************



And it tastes like a plant! I have not yet aquired a taste for it, and

I have *tried*! I even have the liquid form. It is awful!



HNM

(url coming soon)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE! Feel like cr

From: Mary-Margaret_Mastin@RedwoodFN.org (Mary-Margaret Mastin)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 16:13:41 GMT



AS AN ADJUNCT TO WHATEVER THERAPY YOU CHOOSE...you might want to find yourself

a polarity therapist or bodyworker who does vibrational balancing. 

you may find some of your own deeper, non-perscription remedy in this way.

at the very least you will experience a very deep cellular peace and

integration.  good luck, give it time...it's a process.

sincerely yours,

mary-margaret



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Echinacea dealers

From: rob.graham@greatbend.com (Rob Graham)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 16:57:25 GMT



Does anybody know of addresses, phone numbers, etc of companies that buy raw 

snake root(Echinacea)?



thanks,

Rob



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Yeast Question

From: jknapp@goodguy.goodnet.com (Jill Knapp)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 20:59:42 GMT



Hi folks.  I've always been a little confused about yeast, so hopefully

someone can shed some light on this for me.



I always hear stuff about the ills of candida albicans.  Is *all* yeast

bad?  Does yeast play any helpful roles in the body?  Many herb capsules

tout that they are 100% yeast free, and other supplements tout that they

contain brewer's yeast.  What gives?  I'm assuming there's a difference, I

just don't know what it is. 



What symptoms does the body exhibit when it has a yeast overgrowth

(besides the obvious vaginal yeast infection)?  



Thanks so much for your help.



j i   l      l



-- 



--

  If ignorance is bliss and patience is a virtue, you can have a pretty

            good life if you're stupid and willing to wait.

** Jill Knapp ** <jknapp@goodnet.com> ** former Evelyn ** vocal acrobat **



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Question

From: donwiss@panix.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 00:31:19 GMT



On 25 Aug 1996 20:59:42 GMT, jknapp@goodguy.goodnet.com (Jill Knapp) wrote:



>I always hear stuff about the ills of candida albicans.  Is *all* yeast

>bad?  Does yeast play any helpful roles in the body? 



Everybody has some in their intestines. In people that are complaining of

this there is supposedly an overgrowth.



> Many herb capsules

>tout that they are 100% yeast free, and other supplements tout that they

>contain brewer's yeast.  What gives?  I'm assuming there's a difference, I

>just don't know what it is. 



People with systemic Candida avoid eating any type of yeast. The 100%

yeast-free on labeling is for them. Personally I can't see how they can be

bothered by yeast that have been admittedly killed in an oven. Brewer's

yeast is for people that are trying to get some vitamins and minerals.

Here's a paragraph on it from:

http://www.newbalance.com/refreshment/20_power_foods/20_power.13.html



13. Brewer's Yeast

Mix a quarter cup into your morning orange juice and you'll swallow more

zinc than there is in two cups of green peas, five slices of white bread or

21 cups of cabbage. This magic drink also contains more vitamin B1 than 27

pounds of hamburger or 45 slices of B1-enriched bread. Brewer's yeast is

also an excellent source of the other B vitamins, iron, calcium and

selenium. We admit it may be an acquired taste, but with this kind of

power, it's worth getting used to. 



>What symptoms does the body exhibit when it has a yeast overgrowth

>(besides the obvious vaginal yeast infection)?  



You can find pages that list many symptoms off this page of annotated

links:



  The Candida Page:      http://www.panix.com/~candida/



To me all of their symptoms look like symptoms of gluten intolerance (which

works with yeast to make bread rise).



Don.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Question

From: kerrif1900@aol.com (KerriF1900)

Date: 29 Aug 1996 18:06:53 -0400



     I suffered for years with recurrent yeast infections.  In addition to

overgrowth vaginally, I had an "ill feeling" in my lower digestive tract. 

I also experienced a great amount of malaise.

     As a young female, my ob/gyn suggested eating yogurt.  It was the

acidophilus in the yogurt that actually worked.  Found that in the local

health food store.  I take 2 caps three times per day orally and one

vaginally before bed when it's flared up.  Adding garlic also helped.  The

infection is usually gone in 5 days with no side effects.  I take one

daily as a prophilaxis and have had almost no problems in five years.

    A change in diet was probably the best thing I did.  I now eat more

whole foods (grains, beans and veggies). Cut out the sugars and yeast

items.  Seems the American Diet was making me sick. 

     I also noticed that flare-ups tended to occur when I was under alot

of stress.  Measures need to be taken to help there too. 

     There's a great book "The Yeast Connection"  (sorry I don't remember

the author) that I recommend..

All the best,

Kerri



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Question

From: wolfgang <wschmidt@awinc.com>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:50:31 -0700



KerriF1900 wrote:

> 

>       

.  The infection is usually gone in 5 days with no side effects.  I take

one



Are you talking about yourself or are you quoting other sources ?



Wolfgang

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Create a great day ... and stay healthy !



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Question about lavendar

From: anita@cyberus.ca (Anita Paradis)

Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:38:18 GMT



My lavendar has yet to bud or bloom and the only information I have 

about it says that I want to harvest the pre-bloom buds.  I want the 

lavendar to make little sachets.  My question is:  do I really need the 

buds or can I use dried leaves?  Certainly when I brush against it the 

leaves seem aromatic enough.



I'd appreciate it if any knowledge be sent to me via e-mail.  Try me 

at:  anita@cyberus.ca or at aparadis@obe.edu.on.ca



Thank you! 





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.gardens

Subject: Question about Spikenard

From: btarte@cris.com (Bob Tarte)

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:00:29 -0300



There is a passage in the New Testament of the Bible that refers to 

a perfumed ointment that Mary Magdalene used on Jesus called Spikenard.

Does anyone know the plant derivative of this, and if there is any-

place where it can be ordered?  I would like to grow it just to see

what it smells like.



Please e-mail your response, and thanks so much for your help in advance.



Linda Tarte

Lowell, Mich.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: rec.gardens

Subject: Re: Question about Spikenard

From: Jason Woodrow <jason_woodrow@om.cv.hp.com>

Date: 26 Aug 1996 16:36:14 GMT



btarte@cris.com (Bob Tarte) wrote:

>There is a passage in the New Testament of the Bible that refers to 

>a perfumed ointment that Mary Magdalene used on Jesus called Spikenard.

>Does anyone know the plant derivative of this, and if there is any-

>place where it can be ordered?  I would like to grow it just to see

>what it smells like.

>

>Please e-mail your response, and thanks so much for your help in advance.

>

>Linda Tarte

>Lowell, Mich.



I know of three different plants in America that have the common name of

Spikenard, but I don't know if any of these grow in Palestine (I rather doubt

it). This is a problem with "common" names. Anyway, the three that I have found

are:



Aralia racemosa, N.O. Araliaceae  

(Some common names: American Spikenard, Indian Spikenard) Usually found in

North America, New Zealand, Japan.



Aralia Californica, (very similar plant to Aralia racemosa, but larger)

(Californian Spiknard)



Inula Conyza, N.O. Compositae

(Ploughman's Spikenard)



A book on plants of the Middle-East would probably have better information. I

have heard of some books that give reference to plants found in the Bible.

Perhaps a local bookstore could track one down for you.



-Jason Woodrow





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Valerian Root and St.Johns Wort

From: kitaro1@ix.netcom.com

Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:18:09 GMT



Hello,

     I'm new here and was looking for any information on taking St Johns Wort

and Valerian root, at the same time. I haven't heard of any problems taking the 2 at the same time, but was wondering if anyone has any info.



Thanks,

DH

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: increasing appetite

From: georgie <georgie@silcom.com>

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:09:37 -0700



Does anybody know of an herb or supplement that can be taken to increase 

your appetite when you're stressed or nervous? (a legal one!)

Thanks!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbalife

From: Curious <temple@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 21:04:03 -0600



Since you are the experts.

I would LOVE to hear what you think of Herbalife products.

I have my opinion and would love yours, particulary if you are a health 

professional.



HERBALIFE DISTRIBUTORS, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND.





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Courses and information

From: woodrise@netcom.ca

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:24:43 GMT



I am looking for information about courses in herbal medicine. I am

not a medical practicioner but am interested in learning more about

herbal remedies and would like to supplement reading with some

courses.



Thanks (in advance)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Nail Fungus

From: Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:46:18 +0100





Some days ago someone posted an "instantaneous" cure for nail fungus.

This consisted of a recommendation to soak the nail in neat bleach.

However I cannot remember how long it was necessary to do this for. Was

it 10-30 secs or 10-30 mins? Can someone please advise?



Thankyou 

 

Pat



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Nail Fungus

From: mgreene@origin.ea.com (Melanie Greene)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:04:37 GMT



In article <lYRjMBAayZIyEwlz@megshome.demon.co.uk> Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> writes:

In article <lYRjMBAayZIyEwlz@megshome.demon.co.uk> Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> writes:

>n.net!demon!megshome.demon.co.uk!pat

>From: Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk>

>Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

>Subject: Nail Fungus

>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:46:18 +0100

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>Some days ago someone posted an "instantaneous" cure for nail fungus.

>This consisted of a recommendation to soak the nail in neat bleach.

>However I cannot remember how long it was necessary to do this for. Was

>it 10-30 secs or 10-30 mins? Can someone please advise?



>Thankyou 

> 

>Pat



I have a horse who was suffering from what is called White Line Disease. It is 

apparently caused by the same fungus (onoconsomething or other - I can't 

recall right now). My farrier removed the hoof wall to expose the diseased 

underlying tissues, to aide in cleanup as well as killing the funugs. Since 

this is an anaerobic fungus, it dies when exposed to oxygen. She then 

recommended that I use oxy10 on it. Usually, she would have used mecruochrome 

on it, but it's no longer available due to its mecury content. The oxy10 was 

not only cheap, but it worked.



I guess what I'm trying to say is - keep your nails clean and dry, and give 

oxy10 (or any other oxygenating solution - H202) a try. You might want to cut 

your nail back as far as possible first, though. The oxy10 will stay in place, 

as the hydrogen peroxide won't.

 

MFH)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Nail Fungus

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 00:02:26 GMT



In article <lYRjMBAayZIyEwlz@megshome.demon.co.uk>,

   Pat <pat@megshome.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>

>Some days ago someone posted an "instantaneous" cure for nail fungus.

>This consisted of a recommendation to soak the nail in neat bleach.

>However I cannot remember how long it was necessary to do this for. Was

>it 10-30 secs or 10-30 mins? Can someone please advise?

>

>Thankyou 

> 

>Pat



Pat,

   There really is no instant remedy that's safe.The bleach idea is not so 

good as it could weaken the nails and contribute to the problem.May I suggest 

tea tree oil?Or, buy some Povidone-Iodine solution from the drugstore and soak 

the nails.Be sure to give yourself nutritional support,too.Perhaps a 

commercial supplement for nails.Also if possible get a health practitioner to 

take a look.Whatever you do, don't fool around with a nail infection-they can 

get nasty.

Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: DON'T DRY IN SUN!!! (re: echinacea)

From: dol@alexus.cts.com (D'OL NERIC)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:54:22



Re: Re: Echinacea - how to harvest

 

> You can use the stem, leaf, flower, seed, and root.  The rule for

> harvesting is to take each one when it's at it's prime.  So harvest

> flower, stem and leaf in mid summer; root (like all roots) in fall

> (after foliage is dead) or spring (before foliage starts up); and seed

> in fall when they are ripe.  I don't usually use flowers because I save

> them for the seeds.  

> Dry them out of the sun.  I don't know how long they last dried,

> because I tincture them.  The dose I take of tincture is a dropper full

> every 2-3 hours.  That's probably a measuring teaspoon.  



     Are you *nuts*? How can people still hold true in beliefs such as this?

Drying ANY herb in the sun leaches important medicinal compounds! Drying

should be done OUT OF THE SUN! Flowers are wonderful for the system. I cut up

one flower and used it for a cup of tea. Made my tongue tingle (thus you know

the echinacea is powerful).



-Ed



Silverlake Computer Services Public Access BBS - (619) 224-1264





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: DON'T DRY IN SUN!!! (re: echinacea)

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 01:07:55 GMT



In <7340@alexus.cts.com> dol@alexus.cts.com (D'OL NERIC) writes: 

>

>Re: Re: Echinacea - how to harvest

> 

>> You can use the stem, leaf, flower, seed, and root.  The rule for

>> harvesting is to take each one when it's at it's prime.  So harvest

>> flower, stem and leaf in mid summer; root (like all roots) in fall

>> (after foliage is dead) or spring (before foliage starts up); and

seed

>> in fall when they are ripe.  I don't usually use flowers because I

save

>> them for the seeds.  

>> Dry them out of the sun.  I don't know how long they last dried,

>> because I tincture them.  The dose I take of tincture is a dropper

full

>> every 2-3 hours.  That's probably a measuring teaspoon.  

>

>     Are you *nuts*? How can people still hold true in beliefs such as

this?

>Drying ANY herb in the sun leaches important medicinal compounds!

Drying

>should be done OUT OF THE SUN!



If you reread the post, you will see that this is exactly what I said:

"Dry them out of the sun."  Please read before reacting.



All herbs are best dried in a cool, dark place. 



Meadow



>Flowers are wonderful for the system. I cut up

>one flower and used it for a cup of tea. Made my tongue tingle (thus

you know

>the echinacea is powerful).

>

>-Ed

>

>Silverlake Computer Services Public Access BBS - (619) 224-1264

>





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Author Looking for Cases for Book on Natural Cures

From: scimedwrit@aol.com (SciMedWrit)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 15:32:51 -0400



     Have you (or has someone you know) experienced a "miracle cure" by

using a non-traditional remedy?  If you answer yes, and if you're willing

to have your case published, you may be one of the people whose cases will

be described in a new book.



     A best selling health author is seeking cases about

medically documented non-traditional medicines, such as vitamins,

herbs or other natural substances that have cured various kinds

of illnesses. 



     By "medically documented," we mean that a doctor or medical

researcher can verify that the patient really did have the

disease and that the symptoms really did vanish or dramatically

diminish after treatment.  



     Examples might include using herbs such as feverfew to

overcome migraine, hawthorn to treat erratic heart rhythm, milk

thistle to treat hepatitis or other liver disease, saw palmetto

to treat enlarged prostate, and so on.  



     Other examples might include people who have been cured or

dramatically helped by using cat's claw, shark cartilage,

kombucha (Manchurian mushroom) tea, and other natural medicines

or natural substances.



     If you're a person who has experienced an alternative remedy

cure or relief of symptoms, or if you're a physician who treated

one or more patients who experienced such relief, we're

interested in hearing from you.  Please respond to this message

by sending an email to:  SciMedWrit@aol.com (or fax to 303-238-6036 USA)

and include:



     1.  A brief description of your condition including the

     name of the diagnosis and a description of the remedy

     or treatment that cured or helped you;



     2.  Your email address and a phone number (and/or fax

     number) where can contact you for more details.



Please note:  Even if you've had the most dramatic, fantastic and

wonderful cure of all time and you're eager to share your story

with the world, we cannot use your case unless there is medical

proof that you had the condition before the treatment and that

the condition improved or vanished after the treatment.     



Thanks for your interest!

...............................................................





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Caprillands Herb Farm

From: p020188b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (William Brainard)

Date: 26 Aug 1996 21:39:30 GMT



Anyone ever visit Caprillands Herb Farm in Coventry Conn.?  It's owner, 

Adelma Grenier Simmons who is over 90, has written a number of books on 

herbs and still has a daily luncheon and lecture in her 18th century 

farmhouse and gardens.  A really worthwhile experience when travelling in 

southern New England.  She has also had a booth at the Eastern States 

Exposition in Mass. for many years.  



--





William Brainard

p020188b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Caprillands Herb Farm

From: joscheier@aol.com (JOSCHEIER)

Date: 30 Aug 1996 08:28:23 -0400



Someone wrote:



"Anyone ever visit Caprillands Herb Farm in Coventry Conn.?  It's owner, 

Adelma Grenier Simmons who is over 90, has written a number of books on 

herbs and still has a daily luncheon and lecture in her 18th century 

farmhouse and gardens.  A really worthwhile experience when travelling in 

southern New England.  She has also had a booth at the Eastern States 

Exposition in Mass. for many years.  "



I haven't visited, but have a few books featuring the farm.  I love the

moon garden the most.  I think she was an early pioneer of the concept. 

I'd love to visit someday...



Jo Scheier

Pittsburgh



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ginko biloba

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 01:26:39 GMT





I am interested in hearing about people's personal experiences with

Ginko biloba extract.  The FAQ does discuss Ginko but only the

medicinal properties, etc.  I would like to hear from people who have

used it, what they used it for, if it was prescribed or suggested by a

medical person (e.g. doctor? naturopath?), why they decided to start

taking it, how much/how often they took, how they took it (e.g. pills?

tincture? I know you have to take a lot of tincture to get the

necessary dose), side effects if any, where they got it from, whatever

experiences people choose to share, anything else that comes to mind. 

I want to know it all!! 



It would be great to know where the person posting lives, because

apparently Ginko is one of the most commonly prescribed --uh oh, I

don't know what word to use-- substances? in Europe.  I don't want to

call it a drug.  But it apparently is prescribed in Europe very very

frequently, while of course in the U.S. (where I live) it's sold only

as a "food supplement".  I just have to say, I live in a strange

country (and I'm from here!). (Please no flames on that!)



I have ringing in one ear which I haven't seen a medical person about

yet but I assume is tinnitus.  I also have been experiencing some

pretty debilitating dizzyness since Friday, which I did see a doctor

about.  I was told it is due to irritation in my inner ear, possibly

the tail end of a virus (I've had a cold the past week).  A few months

ago my doctor suggested I go see an ENT doctor for possible Meniere's

Disease.  That's one I can truly live without!



So I read up on all this and it seems Ginko has worked for tinnitus. 

My book didn't mention Meneire's but it seems to me it could possibly

work for that, since it helps with vascular problems.  



Anyhow, any personal experiences would be very appreciated, whether

positive or not.  You can e-mail me or post them to the list.



Thank you! :-)



Meadow



Meadow1@ix.netcom.com

(the character after my name is a one, not an L)



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko biloba

From: HerbsNMassage@cwo.com

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 16:14:31 GMT



meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY) lightly touched ink to paper and

wrote:





>I am interested in hearing about people's personal experiences with

>Ginko biloba extract.  

Hi, I am going to start taking it today. Saturday. I will be taking

the NOW brand, 50:1 extract - 24%, 60 mg.  It says this standardized

Ginkgo extract is fortified with 300 mg whole Ginkgo leaf powder.  I

live in Northern Calif, and will provide further details later.  I am

also going to give it to a friend to take, who smoked pot for 26 yrs,

and consequently, has very little short term memory. We shall see. It

says to take 1-2 caps a day (not liquid). I will take one to start

with, for a week. Then up it from there.



You may email me at the address you see.



HNM

(url coming soon)





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.arthritis,misc.health.therapy.occupational,alt.folklore.herbs,alt.health.ayurveda

Subject: Re: FDA to Close All Health Food Stores?

From: garycru@netunlimited.net (g.crumpler)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 02:04:59 GMT



In article <32169C22.27B6@prodigy.net>, KWL <KWL@prodigy.net> wrote:



> Linda de Gonzalez wrote:

> > 

> > http://206.135.37.254/public/legal-lg/fedregs/fdacodex.htm

> > 

> > Check it out. It's the FDA's own "Letter to Consumers".

> > 

> > LindaJust glacing over the letter looks like they aren't going let the 

> vitiams co. make claims they can't back up.





Looks to me like things are changing in Washington, DC. Two bills making

their way through congress would return individual liberties and make it

easier to bring products to the market.



Read the bills for yourself, make up your own mind, and contact your

representative or senator if you feel so inclined. PDF and TEXT versions

of the bill are at http://www.earcandle.com/legal.html .



-- 

Gary Crumpler

Candella Ear Candles

garycru@earcandle.com



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Bilberry

From: ddoolan720@aol.com (DDoolan720)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 05:08:52 -0400



Anyone have any advice on using bilberry to enhance vision? I am

interested in whether it really works, what kind of dosage should be used,

and side effects, etc. 



Thanks for the help!



Denise



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bilberry

From: gladius@portal.ca (Linda de Gonzalez)

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 03:19:30 GMT



In article <4vudv4$st8@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

   ddoolan720@aol.com (DDoolan720) wrote:

>Anyone have any advice on using bilberry to enhance vision? I am

>interested in whether it really works, what kind of dosage should be 

used,

>and side effects, etc. 



My husband is a diabetic, has been for 40+ years, and last year 

started using bilberry. His peripheral vision and night vision have 

improved 100%, and his day vision has become more stable: clearer, no 

more blurry spots. He was beginning to develop "tunnel vision". All of 

these visual problems are the result of diabetic retinopathy, the 

degeneration of the retina due to diabetes.



The bilberry has helped immensely. I also recommended it to another 

colleague at work, another victim of diabetes, who found his vision 

also tremendously improved. So much so, that when he went to his 

opthalmologist for a checkup, the doctor asked him what he'd been 

doing: his vision was 50% better than at the same time last year, 

after many years of steadily diminishing. He told him about the 

bilberry, but the doctor was not willing to accept the 

explanation...oh well, there you go, ignorance *must be* bliss, so 

many stupid people are so happy.



I don't know if bilberry would assist someone with no visual problems, 

other than to improve night vision.



The story about the air force gunners & pilots using it is true, btw. 

It's the Royal Air Force (Great Britain), and they used bilberry jam 

on their toast every day!!! 



Bilberries contain a vegetable dye which "replaces" the 

light-sensitive dyes in the retinal cones and rods. As the cones 

and rods deteriorate, due to age or disease, vision worsens. It's 

taken up quite efficiently by the body, and has no side effects that I 

have ever heard of. I realize the above is not anywhere near a 

"scientific" explanation, but since I'm not a Ph.D. in organic 

chemistry, maybe someone else can volunteer.





Linda



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Bilberry

From: Glynn & Kathy Greenwood <gwood@argonet.co.uk>

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 19:39:48



Linda de Gonzalez wrote :-

> The story about the air force gunners & pilots using it is true, btw. 

> It's the Royal Air Force (Great Britain), and they used bilberry jam 

> on their toast every day!!! 



Sorry Linda but, no.  Bilberry was virtually unknown in this country until

the 1960s and were rare even then.  Since all goods imported during the war had

to run the gauntlet of the German U-boats space was not wasted on such things.

  

The story you are thinking of was the RAF giving the night fighter crews

carrot juice to drink to improve their night vision.  This was when the 

night fighter successes suddenly rose.  The increased success was actually

nothing to do with night vision, but because British scientists had developed

airborne radar, and the story was to mislead the Germans.



I am not saying that Bilberry does not have the effect you claim.  Just

correcting the story.



     Keep smiling,

   

-- 

                Glynn Greenwood :  gwood@argonet.co.uk





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Alt.folklore.herbs - medicinal herb FAQ (v.1.21a) Part 7/7

From: healingpgs@aol.com (HealingPgs)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 06:41:01 -0400



In article <321ec7f6.7035233@news.eunet.fi>, HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette

Kress) writes:



> * Michael Murray + Joseph Pizzorno: Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine.

>     Prima Publishing, P.O. Box 1260MP, Rocklin, California 95677.

>     Listprice USD 18.95.



> A revised edition of the Encyclopedia will be released in

>Aug/Sept of '96.



Need to file a correction on this.  After several conflicting reports,

I've just been told that the revised edition of the Encyclopedia has been

dropped from Prima's list.  (They will keep the current edition in print).

 Instead, Prima just published the Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplements

by Michael Murray, which basically uses the same organization, but deals

with vitamins, minerals, etc, going from them to basic treatment for a

disease.  The ENS does not replace the ENM, but it does act as an

expansion of the original material.  



The list price for both books is now $19.95, not $18.95 (don't ask me

why).



Regards,

Rosemary, Healing Pages Bookstore, Seattle, WA

e-mail: healingpgs@aol.com

http://members.aol.com/healingpgs/index.htm



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tabernanthe iboga = Ibogaine

From: eboka@aol.com (Eboka)

Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:36:55 -0400



Http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl



Ibogaine, a substance discovered in plants from the West African rain

forests has been reported to 

reduce both narcotic and cocaine withdrawal symptoms while concurrently

precipitating a process of 

abreaction that attenuates or interrupts the craving to use drugs of high

abuse potential. 

Ibogaine is equally effective in the elimination of withdrawal signs for

both short acting narcotics such 

as heroin, or longer acting opioids such as Methadone. 

The Ibogaine treatment procedure consists of a single oral administration

and is generally completed 

in four days. 

One of Ibogaine's interesting attributes is its ability to reveal and

affect the underlying trauma that 

may have lead to self medicating and drug misuse. Ibogaine appears to

precipitate the release of 

repressed memories providing the patient vital information and the clarity

to analyze the reasons for 

their chemical dependence and most important, to admit that they require

the assistance of adjunct 

therapy to modify their drug seeking behavior.



The Ibogaine web page revisions are now approaching completion.   Page

contents are as follows: 



HTTP:WWW.IBOGAINE.DESK.NL



1)  Ibogaine:  A Brief History

2)  ICAA 1996 Amsterdam.  Speakers and subjects

3)  Ibogaine in Drug Detoxification. From Preclinical Studies to    

Clinical Trials.

4)  Ibogaine in the treatment of chemical dependence disorders:     

clinical perspectives.

5)  Ibogaine, psychotherapy, and the treatment of substance-related 

    disorders.

6)  Ibogaine in the treatment of narcotic withdrawal.

7)  Pharmacodynamics and therapeutic applications of iboga and      

ibogaine.

8)  The Necessity of Addict Self-Help Involvement in Ibogaine      

Treatment Procedures.

9)  Netherlands Hallucinogen Research 1950 - 1970.

10) Ibogaine, a brief scientific bibliography -  over 60 abstracts.

11) Ibogaine Treatment -  availability.



HTTP://WWW.IBOGAINE.DESK.NL





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tabernanthe iboga = Ibogaine

From: awest@mail.net-connect.net (August West)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 22:02:29 GMT



eboka@aol.com (Eboka) wrote:



>Http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl



>Ibogaine, a substance discovered in plants from the West African rain

>forests has been reported to 

>reduce both narcotic and cocaine withdrawal symptoms while concurrently

>precipitating a process of 

>abreaction that attenuates or interrupts the craving to use drugs of high

>abuse potential. 

>Ibogaine is equally effective in the elimination of withdrawal signs for

>both short acting narcotics such 

>as heroin, or longer acting opioids such as Methadone. 

>The Ibogaine treatment procedure consists of a single oral administration

>and is generally completed 

>in four days. 

>One of Ibogaine's interesting attributes is its ability to reveal and

>affect the underlying trauma that 

>may have lead to self medicating and drug misuse. Ibogaine appears to

>precipitate the release of 

>repressed memories providing the patient vital information and the clarity

>to analyze the reasons for 

>their chemical dependence and most important, to admit that they require

>the assistance of adjunct 

>therapy to modify their drug seeking behavior.



>The Ibogaine web page revisions are now approaching completion.   Page

>contents are as follows: 



>HTTP:WWW.IBOGAINE.DESK.NL



>1)  Ibogaine:  A Brief History

>2)  ICAA 1996 Amsterdam.  Speakers and subjects

>3)  Ibogaine in Drug Detoxification. From Preclinical Studies to    

>Clinical Trials.

>4)  Ibogaine in the treatment of chemical dependence disorders:     

>clinical perspectives.

>5)  Ibogaine, psychotherapy, and the treatment of substance-related 

>    disorders.

>6)  Ibogaine in the treatment of narcotic withdrawal.

>7)  Pharmacodynamics and therapeutic applications of iboga and      

>ibogaine.

>8)  The Necessity of Addict Self-Help Involvement in Ibogaine      

>Treatment Procedures.

>9)  Netherlands Hallucinogen Research 1950 - 1970.

>10) Ibogaine, a brief scientific bibliography -  over 60 abstracts.

>11) Ibogaine Treatment -  availability.



>HTTP://WWW.IBOGAINE.DESK.NL



I read Ibogaine was a hallucinogen that is now a controlled substance

in the US.  Can anyone confirm this.  If it is not controlled then who

supplies it?  I heard one dose  throws all your nasty habits in your

life right in your face and makes you realize how ugly they are so you

have no more craving for them. From cigarettes to heroin addiction.  I

also heard it kills withdrawals.  Sounds way to good to be true.

Could it be?  Any comments?





August West



"Some day I'll get up and fly away..."









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tabernanthe iboga = Ibogaine

From: eboka@aol.com (Eboka)

Date: 29 Aug 1996 13:04:22 -0400



August West said,



 "read Ibogaine was a hallucinogen that is now a controlled substance

in the US.  Can anyone confirm this.  If it is not controlled then who

supplies it?  I heard one dose  throws all your nasty habits in your

life right in your face and makes you realize how ugly they are so you

have no more craving for them. From cigarettes to heroin addiction.  I

also heard it kills withdrawals.  Sounds way to good to be true.

Could it be?  Any comments?"





Ibogaine is a restricted substance in the U.S.  It is  highy effective in

blocking withdrawal to both heroin and methadone in a two to four day

inhospital procedure.  It may sound too good to be true, but sometimes

things are as good as presented.  It is not that Ibogaine makes you see

how ugly your habits may be, but how worthwhile you may be and then we

hope you will take what you are doing to yourself into consideration.  At

this time treatment is only available in the Republic of Panama, but

things are looking up.  Possibly other countries next year.  Email your

congresspeople and senators and tell them you want Ibogaine testing in the

U.S. now.  Email the president.  Might as well go right to the top.



check out the Ibogaine web page (http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl)







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help for Sty

From: Greg <gregs@ns.gold-link.com>

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:47:36 -0400



I have a terrible sty in my eye. Does anyone have a remedy?



Greg



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help for Sty

From: sjahner@sojourn.com (Stephen Jahner)

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 23:54:36 GMT



In article <32236CF8.7C7A@ns.gold-link.com>,

   Greg <gregs@ns.gold-link.com> wrote:

>I have a terrible sty in my eye. Does anyone have a remedy?

>

>Greg



Hi Greg,

   You can use eyebright herb-1 tablespoon dried herb to 1 pint of water, boil 

and let cool until just warm enough to make a compress with.Put the warm 

eyebright compress on the sty several times a day.Make sure your hands and all 

implements are squeaky clean.Make the herb infusion fresh daily and make sure 

no infusion runs into the other eye.

Good luck-Barbara



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.folklore.aromatherapy,alt.coffee

Subject: A source for bulk herbs, homeopathy, aromatherapy, capsules, coffee, tea, etc.

From: Stephen Durfee <steve@abaca.com>

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:19:22 -0400



Abaca Herbs & Coffee

http://www.abaca.com

email: info@abaca.com

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for letting me introduce our new, online searchable catalog

of over 7000 items.  Explore if you want too.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Anything for stress and weight loss

From: lec6969@gnn.com

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:35:20 GMT



This message is herbologyist only.



Do you know of any herbs will help stress and also weight loss.



I am study herbology right now.









Lee Allen













From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything for stress and weight loss

From: "Dr. Joe K. Clema" <clemaj@neurosystems.com>

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:14:08 -0400



According to Dr. Goh:



http://juniper.mecnet.org/isma/index.html



MOOD PLEASER

 Ingredients:

 Radix Bupleuri, Caulis Polygoni Multiflori, Radix Paeonia Alba, Poria

Cocos, Rhizoma Curcumae, Fructus Schizandrae, Radix

 Salviae Miltiorrhizae, Radix Glycyrrhizae.



 This formula can help people's emotional states such as nervousness,

depression, poor memory, poor concentration, or anxiety.

 This formula is not a tranquilizer, but some of the ingredients have

been found in clinical to help sooth people's moods.







lec6969@gnn.com wrote:

> 

> This message is herbologyist only.

> 

> Do you know of any herbs will help stress and also weight loss.

> 

> I am study herbology right now.

> 

> Lee Allen



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: how to ingest st.johns wort? hypericum...

From: r_grace@deepcove.com (robert grace)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 08:35:15 GMT



Does anyone  know how to make a tincture or brew out of hypericum perforatum (st. johns

 wort)? Does it loose potency when boiled? what ratio of water/alcohol to herb should I

use?  These ones are in seed. How do I treat the seeds? I don't eat saladsAny tips

 appreciated.

Kerry



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: how to ingest st.johns wort? hypericum...

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:07:30 GMT



On Wed, 28 Aug 96 08:35:15 GMT, in alt.folklore.herbs r_grace@deepcove.com

(robert grace) wrote:



>Does anyone  know how to make a tincture or brew out of hypericum perforatum (st. johns

>wort)? Does it loose potency when boiled? what ratio of water/alcohol to herb should I

>use?  These ones are in seed. How do I treat the seeds? I don't eat salads

>Any tips appreciated.



Hypericum, St.John's wort:



The usual part you take is the buds and flowers, with an occasional leaf and

seed left in. You use these fresh, either in a tincture (for internal use) or as

an oil (for external use only. I have tried ingesting hypericum oil. Believe me,

it's disgusting, even on a lump of sugar...). You'll get more potency if you use

the same alcohol or oil on two batches of St.John's wort in succession.



For fresh tinctures you need 95 % alcohol (94 % for those of you who figure

volume, 96 % for those of you who figure weight (or was it the other way

around?), 95 % on average). Chop your fresh flowering hypericum tops, weigh it,

take 2 times as much alcohol (by weight), put all into the same glass jar, leave

for 7-10 days, strain the plant out, put a new batch in.



For herb oil you need a nice cooking oil and fresh flowering tops of Hypericum.

Crush 'em, put 'em in a glass jar, cover 'em with oil; all plant parts have to

be under the oil level, it helps to put a coffee filter or similar on top of the

herb before adding the oil, but this makes adding the oil a -very- slow process.



Leave the jar in a sunny window for 3-4 weeks; put something under the jar as

some oil will escape no matter how tight your lid is (experience talking). Shake

the jar every now and then, press out the bubbles - you can have a lot of fun

with this one. It's messy, too.



Dried isn't even half as potent as fresh, so forget about infusions and

decoctions with dried herb.



Why would you boil it?  Dried seed decoction? Interesting. Tell us the results,

after you're done.



This is, however, proven to work: tincture, some drops per day as needed, unless

you're an alcoholic or otherwise cannot take alcohol - in which case you take

the drops in water that's a bit over 70 deg.C (= above the boiling point of

alcohol), and take what's left after the alcohol has left (pun intended).



Have fun, and remember, Hypericum oil or tincture stains are a bitch to get out

of almost any surface, if you have any potency at all in your plants.



Henriette                                                  posted and mailed



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: how to ingest st.johns wort? hypericum...

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 05:19:01 -0700



HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress) wrote:



>Hypericum, St.John's wort:

>The usual part you take is the buds and flowers, with an occasional leaf and

>seed left in. You use these fresh, either in a tincture (for internal use) or as

>an oil (for external use only.

   Be cautious using the oil.  IF you are one of the sucecptible ones,

getting SJW on your skin can cause a oozing rash when the sun hits it.

It doesn't have that effect taken internally, unless you are really

sensitive to it.  

  Also, keep it off your hands, and wash thoroughly after harvesting

and processing.



>Dried isn't even half as potent as fresh, so forget about infusions and

>decoctions with dried herb.

   Actually it works quite well ... a cup of SJW tea, made by pouring

boiling water into the cup with the tea-ball with the herb, left to

steep for about 10 minutes, is as effective as a tincture.  If you

calculate the relative dosage of drops of tincture, versus the much

larger quantity of tea (although it may be "weaker" you are drinking

more) it's a toss-up.  Also, drying the buds and flowers is a heck of

a lot simpler than tincturing, filtering, decanting, etc.

   Maybe that's the attraction of it ... a nice messy process to have

fun with.  Like gardening, but indoors.







Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: how to ingest st.johns wort? hypericum...

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 19:44:42 GMT



>In <509ajl$t8e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> callie@writepage.com (Callie)

writes: 

>

>>HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress) wrote:

>

>>Hypericum, St.John's wort:

>>The usual part you take is the buds and flowers, with an occasional

>>leaf and seed left in. You use these fresh, either in a tincture (for

>>internal use) or as an oil (for external use only.)



I've never heard of using seed, only fresh bud and some leaf. But I

always find fine powder at the bottom of my tincture, I always assumed

that was pollen.  Maybe some of it was seed?



>   Be cautious using the oil.  IF you are one of the sucecptible ones,

>getting SJW on your skin can cause a oozing rash when the sun hits it.

>It doesn't have that effect taken internally, unless you are really

>sensitive to it.  Also, keep it off your hands, and wash thoroughly

>after harvesting and processing.



The medicinal herb FAQ states there is very little evidence that this

is a problem.  Reports of photosensitivity caused by SJW are widespread

but even Michael Moore said he's only known of two people in his wide

experience who've had any problem with it, and that was after massive

use.  I don't mean this is *never* a problem, it's just very rare, and

only after using *lots* of the herb. 



<snip>

>Also, drying the buds and flowers is a heck of a lot simpler than

>tincturing, filtering, decanting, etc.



>>Dried isn't even half as potent as fresh, so forget about infusions

>>and decoctions with dried herb.



Dried SJW is virtually useless.  It may be easier than tincturing but

it won't have the medicine.  Every source of information I've heard or

read has said this. 



Personally, I find SJW really easy to tincture, you don't even have to

grind it up.  Just dump some vodka over the buds and a few leaves, and

shake it up every day for a while.  It turns a really beautiful red

color.  Then pour off the top, you don't have to press it all out if

you don't want to.  If you do grind it up first in a blender, it turns

the red color right away, it looks really neat.  





Meadow





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: how to ingest st.johns wort? hypericum...

From: davepsych1@aol.com (DavePsych1)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 10:30:54 -0400



In article <5010fc$lj6@marine.jumppoint.com>, r_grace@deepcove.com (robert

grace) writes:



>Does anyone  know how to make a tincture or brew out of hypericum

perforatum

>(st. johns

> wort)? Does it loose potency when boiled? what ratio of water/alcohol to

>herb should I

>use?  These ones are in seed. How do I treat the seeds? I don't eat

saladsAny

>tips

> appreciated.



You're much better off just buying a standardized extract.  Even if you

find a way to make a tincture, how do you know how strong or weak it's

going to be?



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: LEGISLATIVE STATUS OF HERBALISM

From: dk853@CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU (Donald Keenan)

Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:59:07 GMT



Hello!

Can anyone sum up the legal status of herbalism in the USA. I remember the

attempt to subject all vitamins and herbal products to the FDA/AMA approval

and dispensal process. With the defeat of that legislation(Orrin Hatch, our

hero!), where do things stand now?

I have been told that the AMA has exclusive legal rights to "diagnosis, treat,

and prescribe". Does anyone know what legislation guarantees such a monopoly?

Also, I'm in NEW YORK STATE. Someone mentioned a new attempt to regulate/

marginalize clinical herbalism. Can anyone confirm this with specific data?

In short, what legislation makes clinical herbalism illegal and what looming

legislative action seeks to regulate the use of herbs and herbalism?

My e-mail address is:

dk853@cnsvax.albany.edu

THANKS!



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Stevia

From: gmcmulle@mail.qb.island.net (Graham)

Date: 28 Aug 1996 18:28:02 GMT



Hi - very interested in the comments about Stevia.  I live on Vancouver Isl. 

(Canada) and Stevia grows well here, I have a nice lot ready for harvest.

	Now - who knows how to dry and process it so I can find out how it 

works in baking and so on?  And, while I'm talking to someone who knows 

about the stuff, how do you propagate it?

Thanks, Colette



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Stevia

From: liz@ervose.mv.com (Liz Vose)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:58:29 GMT



This summer I pinned some of the stevia stems into the ground with open

paper clips and let them root.  This worked just fine. Now I have several

little plants to take inside for the winter.  It was easy.  When you take

your Stevia inside, just set some plant pots around the mother plant and

do the same thong.  It takes a while, but is very easy. 



Liz





 article <50233i$ecd@cliff.island.net>, gmcmulle@mail.qb.island.net

(Graham) wrote:



> Hi - very interested in the comments about Stevia.  I live on Vancouver Isl. 

> (Canada) and Stevia grows well here, I have a nice lot ready for harvest.

>         Now - who knows how to dry and process it so I can find out how it 

> works in baking and so on?  And, while I'm talking to someone who knows 

> about the stuff, how do you propagate it?

> Thanks, Colette



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: acorns as food

From: juan@trivium.gh.ub.es (jordi juan-tresserras)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:28:36 GMT



I am working in a study about the acorn use as human food in the

Iberian Peninsula and the Maghreb area. If anyone know some

bibliographic references or some recipes (porridge, stews, cakes,

..), please let me know.

Thanks in advance for your collaboration,

Yours,



Jordi



*************************************************************************



Jordi Juan i Tresserras

Unitat d'Arqueobotanica

SERP/Dept.Prehistoria, H. Antiga i Arqueologia

UNIVERSITAT DE BARCELONA                        

Baldiri i Reixac, s/n   Torre B pis 11      

E-08028-Barcelona            

(Espanya, Union Europea)



tel/fax: +34.3.4248035

e-mail: juan@trivium.gh.ub.es



"Cada epoca de la historia modifica el fogon, y cada pueblo come segun

su alma, antes tal vez que segun su estomago" - Emilia Pardo Bazan

**************************************************************************







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: acorns as food

From: obriens@echo.sound.net (John Obrien)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 15:25:44 GMT



jordi juan-tresserras (juan@trivium.gh.ub.es) wrote:

: I am working in a study about the acorn use as human food in the

: Iberian Peninsula and the Maghreb area. If anyone know some

: bibliographic references or some recipes (porridge, stews, cakes,

: ..), please let me know.



I think Euell Gibbons wrote some about acorns as food in one of his 

"STalking ...." books.  American Indians used it.  I've tried it and

some taste fairly good, other varieties not so good.



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: acorns as food

From: qwill@primenet.com (Qwill & Zara)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 11:27:06 -0700



juan@trivium.gh.ub.es (jordi juan-tresserras) wrote:



>I am working in a study about the acorn use as human food in the

>Iberian Peninsula and the Maghreb area. If anyone know some

>bibliographic references or some recipes (porridge, stews, cakes,

>..), please let me know.

>Thanks in advance for your collaboration,

>Yours,



>Jordi



>*************************************************************************



>Jordi Juan i Tresserras

>Unitat d'Arqueobotanica

>SERP/Dept.Prehistoria, H. Antiga i Arqueologia

>UNIVERSITAT DE BARCELONA                        

>Baldiri i Reixac, s/n   Torre B pis 11      

>E-08028-Barcelona            

>(Espanya, Union Europea)



I don't know about acorn usage in the areas you have mentioned.

However, we have prepared acorn flour for years.  It's great.  We just

substitute acorn flour for  corn meal in other recipes and it works

fine.

	

To prepare acorns for flour, you take them out of their shell and boil

the hell out of them, changing the water to get rid of the tannic

acid.  Then grind and dry them.  I don't know if this helps.

>tel/fax: +34.3.4248035

>e-mail: juan@trivium.gh.ub.es



>"Cada epoca de la historia modifica el fogon, y cada pueblo come segun

>su alma, antes tal vez que segun su estomago" - Emilia Pardo Bazan

>**************************************************************************







Lost in the North Woods,

   Qwill and Zara



Qwill@primenet.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Fibrocystic Breast Disorder

From: norajones@gnn.com (Nora Jones)

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:56:03



Hi, any ideas for herbal supplements or diet plans to help relieve 

fibrous tissue in breasts? n





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fibrocystic Breast Disorder

From: myers@prairienet.org (Leah J. Myers)

Date: 29 Aug 1996 20:21:01 GMT



Nora Jones (norajones@gnn.com) wrote:

: Hi, any ideas for herbal supplements or diet plans to help relieve 

: fibrous tissue in breasts? n

: 

I have had success with Vitamin E supplements (200-400 IU daily) and 

limiting/eliminating caffeine.  My diet is already pretty low in sodium, 

but cutting salt also helps.

-Leah



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fibrocystic Breast Disorder

From: Rikki Mitman <esmitman@ghgcorp.com>

Date: 29 Aug 1996 23:29:40 GMT



I was told to cut caffeine and take vitamin e every day. This did the 

trick for me.



                              Rikki Mitman

                  Beadmaker, Bottlemaker, Brewer of Mead







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: The Solution To Arthritis Pain

From: chinagc@ix.netcom.com (Longtian Wang)

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:21:57 GMT



Ant Rheumatoid Arthritis Ling



This remedy, mainly composed of fine-breed mountain ants and various

traditional medical herbs (Ant, Radix Pseudoginseng, etc.), is

well-established with detailed clinic reports. It proves to have

strong clinical effects on rheumatoid diseases of different kinds with

high percentage of cure and improvement.

Indication: Sciatica, Rheumatia and Rheunatoid arthritis, sore back

and muscles, limb numbness, lumber and leg pain anemsphobia,

hypovosteogeny.

One course of treatment lasts three months. A patient should complete

at least one course in order to gain effects. Three courses are

advisable for cure and consolidation.



For online images and further information, visit at

http://www.catalog.com/inforg01/alt-medi.htm







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: The Shakes

From: Justine McKennie <cboughen@mlc.awinc.com>

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:02:42 -0700



I have been a shaky person ever since I can remember.  People quite 

often ask me if I am o.k. or whymy hands are shaking.  It is annoying 

and I was wondering if there is a herb that would help. 



Justine



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: The Shakes

From: Shez <shez@oldcity.demon.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:35:17 +0100



In article <3225BF22.68E5@mlc.awinc.com>, Justine McKennie

<cboughen@mlc.awinc.com> writes

>I have been a shaky person ever since I can remember.  People quite 

>often ask me if I am o.k. or whymy hands are shaking.  It is annoying 

>and I was wondering if there is a herb that would help. 

>

>Justine

Try valarium, less than a tsp in a small cup of off the boil water,

sweeten with honey. (it tastes horrid) you can increase to dosage to 1

or two tsp, of dried herb double of fresh, its very woody so soak for 40

min at least. take only on special occasions when you want to be shake

free, it might make you a little sleepy, try it and see before driving

or using machinery. it worked for my daughter, who has a similer problem

when she is tense . DO NOT take it over long periods, it can become

addictive, if taken for to long or in to strong a dose.

-- 

Shez                                      shez@oldcity.demon.co.uk

The 'Old Craft' lady               http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/

------------------------------------------------------------------



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: blue/gree algae for energy?

From: Shianne <shianne@bbs.annex.com>

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:37:39 -0700



Victoria G. wrote:

> 

> Has anyone heard about blue algae or green algae for

> energy?

> 

> I keep hearing that it is a miracle source for energy

> if so where can I buy it?

> 

> Thankyou so much.

> --

> Vickie Note: It may be good for energy, but wander about on the Web - it also 

seems to cause (on rare occasions, but still) something called VFDS 

"Very Fast Death Syndrome".... So be careful.

-- 

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"Well son, let me tell you I'm so pleased to meet you,

The boys and I have been expecting to greet you.

As guest of honour in the house of the dead

just relax, lay yourself down, say goodbye to your head"

			- D. Elfman, "Forbidden Zone"



Z?	Snord.		Don't ask - you might recieve.

shianne@bbs.annex.com

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Vitex for estrogen/progesterone imbalance?

From: activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:35:55 GMT



My research has revealed that Vitex (chaste tree berry) is believed to support

progesterone, and could be a treatment for estrogen/progesterone imbalance.  I

am interested in this because my lifelong (well, since 11 y.o.) experience of

severe cramping and heavy bleeding during menstruation, coupled with my excess

adipose tissue (that's "fat", known to be a resevoir of estrogen) suggest that

I have excess estrogen circulating in my system.  I am hoping that something

that would add to the progesterone in my system in the second half of my cycle

might help to alleviate my symptoms.



What do you all think?









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,misc.health.alternative

Subject: Re: Vitex for estrogen/progesterone imbalance?

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 05:05:01 -0700



activist@clark.net (J. Rachael Hamlet or Duncan Cooper) wrote:



>My research has revealed that Vitex (chaste tree berry) is believed to support

>progesterone, and could be a treatment for estrogen/progesterone imbalance. 

  It has a long history of use for that.  Yellow Dock will also boost

progesterone.  Sarsaparilla might have some anti-estrogenic effects -

I can't find anything solid on what it does.

  Schizandra, the cohoshes, Dong Quai, and evening primrose (maybe)

boost estrogens, so they would'nt be much help.



> I am hoping that something

>that would add to the progesterone in my system in the second half of my cycle

>might help to alleviate my symptoms.

   It's worth a trip to the herb store.









Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Query: Gaia Company

From: Ruth H Kline <rk30+@andrew.cmu.edu>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:47:06 -0400



I just learned that a medicinal herb company called "Gaia" bought a

large farm in Western North Carolina where they will grow and process

herbal medicines.  Is Gaia a well-known company?  Do they market via

mail-order or sell in health food shops?  Any information would be

appreciated.  TIA.  -Ruth 



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbs for animal pest control

From: "Katherine M. Smith" <kms29@concentric.net>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:30:27 -0400



I am looking for an herbal solution to ridding my shed of mice.  I read 

somewhere that either lavendar or rosemary placed in a doorway is 

supposed to keep critters out.  I would like to ward them off, not kill 

them.		



Thank you.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs for animal pest control

From: callie@writepage.com (Callie)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 05:09:01 -0700



"Katherine M. Smith" <kms29@concentric.net> wrote:



>I am looking for an herbal solution to ridding my shed of mice.  I read 

>somewhere that either lavendar or rosemary placed in a doorway is 

>supposed to keep critters out.  I would like to ward them off, not kill 

>them.		

  Well, few mice will be coming in through the door ... they tend to

use tiny cracks in the walls instead.  Caulking the cracks and sealing

the holes will do more for you than herbs.  If it has an elevated

floor, they are probably living under it.

  What is in there that attracts them?  If you keep any possible foods

in tightly covered bins, sweep up any spills, and move things around

frequently they will probably get fed up with your lousy hospitality

and leave.

  Herbally ... catnip would work.  It does nothing to the mice, but a

resident cat will encourage them to go elsewhere.

Callie



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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: 8 recipes using honey & beeswax

From: ewhitevhp@aol.com (EWhiteVHP)

Date: 30 Aug 1996 19:09:18 -0400



Honey & beeswax recipes for products



Excerpts from the book:

"Super Formulas, Arts & Crafts: How to make 360 useful products that

contain

honey & beeswax" 120-page book by Elaine C. White Copyright 1993 ISBN

0-9637539-7-5

Available from bookstores, libraries and directly from the publisher.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Petroleum Jelly



Petroleum jelly is easy to make and it is an ingredient of many other

products. Naturalists may substitute a natural oil, such as grapeseed oil

or

sweet almond oil, for the baby or mineral oil to create an "un-petroleum"

jelly.



1 ounce (weight) beeswax

1/2 cup baby or mineral oil



Melt the beeswax in a microwave or a double boiler. Stir in the mineral

oil.

Remove the mixture from the heat and stir until cool.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Skin Cream



2 1/2 ounces (weight) beeswax

4 ounces (weight) lanolin

2/3 cup baby or mineral oil

3/4 cup water

1 teaspoon borax (sodium borate, CP)

Fragrant essential oil (optional)



Melt the oil, lanolin and beeswax to 160 degrees F. Heat the borax and

water

in a separate container to 160 degrees F. Be sure the beeswax is melted

and

the borax is dissolved. Add the water mixture to the oil mixture while

stirring. When a white cream forms, stir slowly until the mixture cools to

100 degrees F. Pour the cream into small, wide-mouth jars.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Beeswax Polish



Beeswax furniture polish with its soft, satin shine is considered the

ultimate in wood care.



4 ounces (weight) beeswax

2 tablespoons carnauba wax

2 1/2 cups odorless turpentine



Melt the waxes on high in a microwave or in a double boiler. Remove the

waxes

from the heat and stir in the turpentine. Apply the polish with a clean

cloth

and rub in small circles. Turn the cloth as it becomes dirty. Allow the

polish to dry, then buff with a clean cloth. If more than one coat is

desired, wait 2 days between applications.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Lip Gloss



Lipstick colors this easy formula for lip gloss. This is a good way to use

lipstick that is too dark because the gloss will be a lighter color.



1 teaspoon grated beeswax

1/2 teaspoon lipstick

1/2 teaspoon petroleum jelly



Melt the ingredients in a small can placed in boiling water. Stir it well

and

pour it into a small jar.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Dispersing Bath Oil



Most bath oils simply float on water. Dispersing bath oil mixes evenly

with

water, clings to skin and forms a thin, even coating.



1 whole egg

1/2 cup baby or mineral oil

2 teaspoons liquid detergent

1/4 cup vodka

2 tablespoons honey

1/4 cup whole milk

Fragrant essential oil (optional)

Liquid food coloring (optional)



Mix all ingredients in a blender for 30 seconds. Use only 1 or 2

tablespoons

of the oil in a bathtub of water. Shelf-life at room temperature is about

18

months!

---------------------------------------------------------------

Chapped-lip Balm



Simple petroleum jelly is good for chapped lips, but this formula is even

better.



1 tablespoon grated beeswax (1/2 oz.)

1 tablespoon petroleum jelly

1 teaspoon honey

1 tablespoon lanolin

3 to 4 drops essential oil



Melt the wax, lanolin and petroleum jelly in a microwave. Add the honey

and

essential oil. Essential oil of peppermint, eucalyptus, wintergreen and

camphor slightly numb painful lips. Stir the mixture until it cools.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Skin Care Bar



This unique product is a bit greasy for hands, but I like it to apply

emollients to feet, elbows, etc. Easy to make and smells

wonderful--naturally.



Simply melt equal WEIGHTS of sweet almond oil and beeswax. Pour this into

a

bar-shaped mold and allow it to cool. Rub the bar over skin to apply the

emollient properties of the ingredients.

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1-800-BEESWAX

Sells beeswax, carnauba wax, 

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534-536 W. Girard Avenue

Philadelphia, PA 19123

(215) 627-2143

Sells herbs, oils, lanolin & borax.



Lavender Lane

6715 Donerail

Sacramento, CA 95842

(916) 334-4400

Sells oils & waxes for cosmetics.



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7001 Sunburst Way

Citrus Heights, CA 95621

(916) 722-4632

Sells jars, bottles & containers 

for practically everything!



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New Berlin, WI 53151-0710

1-800-558-6696

Sells "everything your art desires,"

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal Alternative to Prozac?

From: Starrz

Date: 30 Aug 1996 16:50:05 -0700



I'm just curious to know if there is some sort of herbal alternative

to Prozac.  Does anyone have any 'recipes'.  Thanks!



Starrz@primenet.com





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal Alternative to Prozac?

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 09:18:40 EST



In article <507und$gof@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Starrz says...

>

>I'm just curious to know if there is some sort of herbal alternative

>to Prozac.  Does anyone have any 'recipes'.  



Don't know of any herbal recipes.  Tryptophan is supposedly

very similar in effects.  It is an amino acid that was banned from the

market by the FDA after a contaminated batch was found.  Kind

of like banning all pain relievers after the contaminated

Tylenol was found.  Coincidentally, Prozac was introduced the

very next week and quickly grew to a multibillion dollar

profit maker, unlike the unpatentable and inexpensive tryptophan.

Sounds like one for the conspiracy buffs to me.



However, tryptophan is still available from veterinarians

and a couple of other sources, but, of course, is illegal for human 

consumption.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,sci.med.nutrition

Subject: Major Minerals - dietary sources

From: turf@mindspring.com (turf)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 21:42:27 EST





It is possible, but difficult, to get RDA amounts of 

minerals by diet sources alone.  Getting the major 

minerals is pretty tough, and the minor ones even 

harder.  For minor and trace elements, it could be 

accomplished by eating lots of organic produce, or juicing 

it, and consuming saltwater plants and animals.



I don't normally buy organic produce since it is usually 

lower quality and the leafy vegetables are moldier than 

non-organic.  But there is a better chance that organic 

produce has more minerals than non-organic 

because the fertilizers used are more complete, especially 

ones like fish meal.  Many organic vegetables taste better 

than the non-organic types, notably carrots.  It is 

probably because of the superior fertilizers.



As far as major minerals are concerned, it is not that 

easy to get adequate amounts.  Here are some examples of 

what it would take to get the RDA of calcium and magnesium.

Included are some natural foods, as well as a fortified

high-protein bar I had lying around called an Ironman

(PR) Bar.  These are the richest sources of the two minerals

I noticed as I glanced through a food values guide.





Magnesium  (RDA: 400 mg)



1.25 cup Brazil nuts

1 cup almonds

1/2 cup molasses

1 cup dry roasted mature soybeans

3 10 oz packages frozen spinach

8 oz spirulina

3 4" acorn squash

1.5 cup whole grain triticale

1.5 cup whole grain durum wheat

1 cup crude whole wheat

3/4 cup dried watermelon seeds

2 Ironman Bars





Calcium:  (RDA: 1000 mg)



3 cups 2% milk

10T celery seeds

3 cups almonds

1.5 cup molasses

2 cups dry roasted mature soybeans

3 10 oz packages frozen spinach

4 Ironman bars





Yes, milk is a good source of calcium.  To absorb calcium, 

it is necessary to take with adequate acid, like vitamin C 

ascorbic acid, or make the liver produce the acid by 

eating fat and/or protein with the calcium.  The figures 

above say nothing to the bioavailability from spinach, e.g.,

whose calcium would not be absorbed nearly as 

well as in 2% milk if it were eaten alone.  Besides fat 

and protein, milk also provides phosphorus (an acid-forming 

substance) and vitamin D, which both aid absorption.



See my post called "Diet and Supplement Tips" for more 

information on consuming adequate minerals.



turf





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs,sci.med.nutrition

Subject: Re: Major Minerals - dietary sources

From: Keith Shaffer <shaffer@seas.gwu.edu>

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 10:59:19 -0700



Your impressions of the difficulty in obtaining the US RDA of minerals

by diet does not match my experience. I recently decided to track the

foods I ate to see how closely I came to getting the RDA of vitamins and

minerals.



During a six week period I weighed ALL of the food I ate and used a

spreadsheet program to analyze the nutritive quailities of my diet. I

was pleasently surprised at how easy it was to meet the RDA for most

nutrients.



I was even on a restricted diet during this time. I am an

ovo-lacto-vegetarian. Also I was in the process of losing weight during

this time and my energy intake was about 500 to 1000 Kcal less than what

is required to maintain the same weight.



Being a vegetarian, I had difficulty getting the RDA of zinc. I averaged

about 70% of the RDA. However, my energy intake was also about 70% of

what I needed to maintain my weight. If I wasn't careful, I would not

get enough Vitamin A. This was easy to remedy with foods such as

carrots, yams, and cantaloupes. For all of the other nutrients I tracked

(about 20), my vegetarian and energy restricted diet far surpassed the

RDA.



From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: stevia buying

From: Pickleman <wrp2@axe.humboldt.edu>

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:41:00 -0700



hello,

	I'm interested in buying stevia, but a little cofused about the 

sweetening power.  I have found it in cut leaf, liquid extract, and 

powder extract forms.  What are the sweetening powers of each form?  This 

will help me decide which form is the best buy.  I intend to use it for 

sweetening homeade rootbeer and alcoholic beverages.  Any catch I'm missing?



The Pickleman



...Kool Aid is obviously for kids.  They have dozens of flavors and not 

one tastes decent when fermented!







From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal mystery novels!

From: David Thompson <mrdrbybk@NeoSoft.com>

Date: 31 Aug 1996 14:54:45 GMT



Check out this series of murder mysteries featuring herb-shop 

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ROSEMARY REMEMBERED

RUEFUL DEATH



--by Susan Wittig Albert



Susan Wittig Albert will be signing RUEFUL DEATH at MURDER BY 

THE BOOK in Houston, October 26.  Would you like a signed copy?

Visit MURDER BY THE BOOK online for more info:

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From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herb for spasticity

From: Shddemon@cris.com (SHADOWDEMON)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 15:06:36 GMT



In article <4vt66p$lpb@castle.nando.net>,  <white@nando.net> wrote:

>

>

>I am dealing with multiple sclerosis and use only two drugs to help with the

>symptoms. These are Zantac for the stomach acid and Baclofin for the muscle

>spasticity. Could anyone tell me some herbs to try to replace these drugs?





Marijuana can help a lot with multiple sclerosis, but it's currently

illegal. :(



>

>Thanks



No problem.









From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: What's a "Good" Diet?

From: ddoolan@capital.net (Denise Doolan)

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:00:46 GMT



The other day I went to the book store and saw at least 20 books on

diets- not necessarily for weight loss, just what you eat in general.



There are all sorts of opinions on what a "good" diet is- but doesn't

it seem that since we're all one species, there should be one basic

diet with minor tweaks to account for personal differences? 



Any thoughts on the matter?



Denise





From XYZ Sun Sep 23 01:42:27 2001

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: What's a "Good" Diet?

From: meadow1@ix.netcom.com(MEADOW WOODY)

Date: 31 Aug 1996 20:11:09 GMT



In <509quc$bjj@Usenet.Logical.NET> ddoolan@capital.net (Denise Doolan)

writes: 

>

>The other day I went to the book store and saw at least 20 books on

>diets- not necessarily for weight loss, just what you eat in general.

>

>There are all sorts of opinions on what a "good" diet is- but doesn't

>it seem that since we're all one species, there should be one basic

>diet with minor tweaks to account for personal differences? 

>

>Any thoughts on the matter?

>

>Denise

>



Allergies and personal preferences.  Unfortunately I just don't like

most fruit (weird, huh?) like cantaloupe, even apples... they give me

bad gas.  But I love vegies.  But many people have allergies and can't

eat a lot of things. 



I think a related issue is the body image problems in our culture,

leading to things like anorexia and bulemia.  If we didn't have such

issues with what we look like (driven by media etc) I don't think there

would be such a problem with body image, thus with what we eat, how we

treat our bodies.  



I think another related issue is corporate greed.  That's what the drug

vs herb conversation is about a lot of times-- drug companies want to

patent what they make so they remove one chemical of an effective herb

and create a harmful and less effective drug.  Similarly of food, they

break it into constituents and sell part to humans and part for other

uses  One example I can think of is wheat --white bread baffles me. 

They take out the nutrients and then "enrich" the bread with vitamins? 

(Okay...)  Of course the industry sells what they take out of the wheat

to someone for a profit.  I've seen things (not scientific, no actual

"proof") that food these days is less nutritious than x number of years

ago.  This could be due to fertilizer used today, growing techniques

etc, who knows.  



Then there are additives. Some people have problems with additives,

can't eat certain foods because of chemical preservatives or MSG.  I

saw something recently that said that MSG is found in many foods where

it isn't actually listed.  So a person could be allergic to that food

and not know why.  



Also I think today we are more open to diversity.  There are many

different types of diets, based on ethnicity, around the world.  There

are so many foods out there that we haven't heard of, amaranth for

example is brand new (to us), and arugula, other greens, these are all

new to us.  I think it's wonderful to have diversity, give people

options to make diet work for them.  



Diversely yours,



Meadow



