

==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Grow your own echinacea

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:34:23 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi all,

If you do grow your own echinacea - how old does the plant have to be before

you can harvest the roots?  What other parts of the plant can be dried and

used?



I use a lot of echinacea for my dog and it is getting a bit expensive.

Besides the expense, I would like to have control over the quality of the

herb he gets.



Sydney



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Grow your own echinacea

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:14:31 -0500

--------

Hi,     In what way does it help your dog.  I have a little dog that is

very precious to me and want her to have the healthiest life possible. 

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky  



> From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

> 

> I use a lot of echinacea for my dog and it is getting a bit expensive.

> snip<

> Sydney



==========

To: SSchuy2011@aol.com, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Grow your own echinacea

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 23:18:18 -0500

--------

At least 2-3 years old to harvest echinacea roots.    You can also 

use leaves.



On 31 Aug 97 at 17:34 

SSchuy2011@aol.com wrote: 



> Hi all,

> If you do grow your own echinacea - how old does the plant have to

> be before you can harvest the roots?  What other parts of the plant

> can be dried and used?

> 

> I use a lot of echinacea for my dog and it is getting a bit

> expensive.

>  Besides the expense, I would like to have control over the quality

>  of the

> herb he gets.

> 

> Sydney



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



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To: "HerbInfo list" <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:40:52 -0500

--------

It has been a month that my husband weaned himself off the anti depressant

medication he had been taking for 4 years , knowing it wasn't helping him.

He gradually started replacing it with St. John's Wort.  Our doctor knew

but didn't approve.  Oh Well.  Within 3 weeks I had a new husband.  One who

didn't see the dark side, one who could laugh, one who could plan for

tomorrow. 

It may not work this well for everyone but just ask me if I am a believer !

Thanks to this list we had guts enough to try this.  Thank you every one.

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net



                  Glasgow Kentucky 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 07:05:43 +0000

--------

Please note on St Johns Wort there is a time limit on taking it. The

herb is not without side effects over time.



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:28:17 -0500

--------



----------

> From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

> To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

> Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

> Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 2:05 AM

> 

> Please note on St Johns Wort there is a time limit on taking it. The

> herb is not without side effects over time.

> _snip> 



_ _                                      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

I had not heard of this.  Please tell me more.  I was led to believe the

only side 

effects were sun damage to skin and maybe exemia.

People who suffer chronic depression are not cured but controled.  If a

medication or herb is helping them it needs to be something that can be

taken for long periods of time.  Users might stop for say two days a week

with no effect.  Would that be enough?

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 11:26:14 +0000

--------

Yes, I think it says right on the label not to exceed 6 months. Ask your

pharmacist.  Royale



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: DRudabaugh@aol.com

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 18:43:32 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-01 15:11:36 EDT, you write:



<< Yes, I think it says right on the label not to exceed 6 months. Ask your

pharmacist.  Royale >>



The St. Johns Wort I am taking is capsules from the co. Solary.. and it does

not say not to exceed any length of time... 



I of course have only been taking it a couple of months now.



Getting worried now.



Sophie :)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 15:40:15 +0000

--------

Thats what the brand here says. Ask you doctor. They are the ones

pushing it now.  Royale



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: DRudabaugh@aol.com

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 18:43:46 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-01 10:45:36 EDT, you write:



<< Please note on St Johns Wort there is a time limit on taking it. The

herb is not without side effects over time. >>



What are those side effects please? I am taking it currently for depression..

and am already aware that I should be more wary of the sun.. I was already

wary of it... for other reasons... But over time what side effects can I have

or should be cautious of?



Thanks



Sophie



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To: rjills@cruzio.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: Ela_Heyn@notes.pw.com

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 08:37:52 EDT

--------

> Please note on St Johns Wort there is a time limit on taking it. The

> herb is not without side effects over time.



Could you elaborate on this a bit more, please?



- Ela



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:03:48 -0500

--------

Yesterday I bought a book written by two doctors and the book  didn't say a

thing about  not being able to take  SJW  long term.  In fact it said that

studies had proven it safe.  They are even starting to use it IV  in large

doses to see if it will help cancer or aids.  It said that in a double

blind study , there were more side effects in the placebo group than in the

SJW group. 

They said there has never been a reported death from using SJW and it has

been used for over 2400 years.  I think I have decided to just keep taking

it. 

Of course , I'll bet the big drug companies would like us to think their

high priced anti depressants are safer.  I also asked my pharmacist and he

said 

no problem. The only caution was sensitivity to sun. If this becomes a

problem then of course one would have to deal with it. 

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky 



----------

> From: DRudabaugh@aol.com

> To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

> 

> The St. Johns Wort I am taking is capsules from the co. Solary.. and it

does

> not say not to exceed any length of time... 

> 

> I of course have only been taking it a couple of months now.

> 

> Getting worried now.

> 

> Sophie :)

>



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:48:37 -0400

--------



The Side Effects of Hypericum[NL]St. John's wort has an 

excellent safety record during centuries of folk medicine. 

Recent medical studies confirm this safety. The extensive 

use of hypericum in Germany (sixty-six million daily doses 

in 1994) has not resulted in medical reports of serious 

drug interactions or even toxicity after accidental 

overdose. [PARA]No substance is perfectly safe. Indeed, 

substances which are essential to human life are, when 

ingested in sufficient quantities, very harmful. Hence the 

warning label on all over-the-counter medications: "Safe 

when used as directed." Even common table salt -- a 

necessary mineral to human existence -- is deadly when 

taken in excess. [PARA]In exploring side effects, one must 

compare the relative dangers -- how toxic is one substance 

as compared to another? Aspirin is less toxic than morphine 

but more toxic than, say, vitamin C.[PARA]One must also 

compare the dangers with the relative benefits. One must 

weigh the damage caused by the illness with the potential 

damage caused by the treatment. Chemotherapy involves some 

of the most toxic chemicals known to medicine but when 

compared to not using these chemicals -- death by cancer -- 

they become medically acceptable. [PARA]In both categories, 

hypericum is impressive.[PARA]As to toxicity, hypericum is 

safer than aspirin. Five hundred to one thousand people die 

each year in the United States from aspirin, usually from 

internal bleeding. Hypericum, by comparison, does not have 

a single recorded human death in 2,400 years of known 

medicinal use.[PARA]In fact, the only fatal toxicity known 

is in certain light-skinned animals, such a sheep, who die 

not from ingesting large quantities of St. John's wort 

while grazing, but of exposure to sun after. (This is why 

hypericum is considered a dangerous weed in Australia and 

is listed in Common Poisonous Plants and Mushrooms of North 

America, by Nancy J. Turner and Adam F. Szczawinski.) 

Hypericum increases the animals' susceptibility to 

sunlight, and they become sick and sometimes die from 

extreme sunburn. Medically, it's known as phytotoxicity -- 

the overexposure to light (phyto) is harmful (toxic). 

[PARA]This phenomenon, while theoretically possible in 

humans, has not been documented in the recommended doses 

for depression. Not a single case of phytotoxicity has been 

reported in human medical studies at depression-dosage 

levels. Even in AIDS research involving intravenous 

hypericum doses thirty-five times greater than the 

recommended dose for depression, the phytotoxic effects 

have been few and never deadly. (High doses of hypericum 

are being medically investigated for its antiviral 

properties.)[PARA]The potential for phytotoxicity should be 

kept in mind, however, if one has a prior hypersensitivity 

to sunlight, or if one is taking other photosensitizing 

drugs such as Chlorpromazine and Tetracyclines.[PARA]In a 

study of 3,250 patients taking hypericum, only 2.4 percent 

experienced any side effects at all. [PARA]The side effects 

reported tended to be mild. Gastrointestinal irritations 

accounted for 0.6 percent, allergic reactions for 0.5 

percent, tiredness for 0.4 percent, and restlessness for 

0.3 percent. [PARA](Interestingly, in fifteen studies 

involving 1,008 patients, the side effects in the control 

group given a harmless placebo were slightly higher than 

that of hypericum4.8 percent for the placebo group and 4.1 

percent for hypericum. The dropout rate of the placebo 

group was higher, too1.8 percent for the placebo group 

compared with 0.4 percent for hypericum.)[PARA]A higher 

figure was reported by the British Medical Journal in a 

review of six hypericum studies. In these, 10.8 percent of 

the patients reported side effects with hypericum (similar 

to the ones listed above), while 35.9 percent reported side 

effects taking prescription antidepressants. Even at this 

higher rate, the British Medical Journal concluded the side 

effects of hypericum were "rare and mild." [PARA]The 

British Medical Journal also calls for more studies on the 

long-term potential side effects of hypericum, a 

recommendation we wholehearted endorse. We can, however, 

consider facts that lie outside the strict standards of 

medical reporting. For example, the extensive use of St. 

John's wort in 2,400 years of folk and herbal medicine as 

well as the twenty-million people in Germany who have been 

taking hypericum for more than a year and have not reported 

any long-term side effects different or more prevalent than 

those of the shorter-term medical studies. [PARA]Some of 

the most troublesome side effects of prescription 

antidepressants -- reduced sexual drive or dysfunction, 

adverse interaction with alcohol or other drugs, dry mouth, 

and headache -- were not reported by patients taking 

hypericum.[PARA]Further, hypericum's side effects went away 

soon after the patients stopped taking it. There were no 

"nonreversible" side effects; that is, no permanent harm 

was done and all side effects were quickly reversed as soon 

as the patients no longer took hypericum.[PARA]The side 

effects of hypericum are mild, indeed, when compared to the 

symptoms of depression. At the extreme are the 21,000 

suicides (70 percent of all suicides) that are a direct 

result of untreated depression. Studies have shown that for 

every suicide there are ten unsuccessful suicide attempts 

and one hundred people who are seriously contemplating 

suicide.<!-- Generation of PM publication page 66 --> 

[PARA]Untreated depression is the number-one cause of 

alcoholism, drug abuse, eating disorders, and other 

addictions. A significant percentage of divorces, spousal 

and child abuse, absenteeism from work, lost jobs, and 

bankruptcies are attributed to untreated 

depression.[PARA]It is estimated that losses associated 

with depression in the United States amount to more than 

forty billion dollars each year. And who can put a price on 

the daily suffering of the twelve million Americans and 1.2 

million Canadians who have depression but are not being 

treated?[PARA]Compared with the symptoms of depression, the 

side effects of hypericum seem insignificant. For most 

people suffering symptoms of depression, the potential 

benefits far outweigh the possible risk of taking 

hypericum.[PARA]The low side-effect profile of hypericum -- 

especially when taken in the dosage recommended for the 

treatment of depression -- puts it in the category of 

herbs, vitamins, minerals, and over-the-counter 

medications. [PARA]Ever watchful for potential side 

effects, well-informed consumers can take hypericum with 

confidence.

Copyright (c) 1996 by Harold H. Bloomfield, M.D. and Peter 

McWilliams



Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	Mary Russell [SMTP:bird@scrtc.blue.net]

Sent:	Monday, September 01, 1997 12:28 PM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort



The Side Effects of Hypericum[NL]St. John's wort has an 

excellent safety record during centuries of folk medicine. 

Recent medical studies confirm this safety. The extensive 

use of hypericum in Germany (sixty-six million daily doses 

in 1994) has not resulted in medical reports of serious 

drug interactions or even toxicity after accidental 

overdose. [PARA]No substance is perfectly safe. Indeed, 

substances which are essential to human life are, when 

ingested in sufficient quantities, very harmful. Hence the 

warning label on all over-the-counter medications: "Safe 

when used as directed." Even common table salt -- a 

necessary mineral to human existence -- is deadly when 

taken in excess. [PARA]In exploring side effects, one must 

compare the relative dangers -- how toxic is one substance 

as compared to another? Aspirin is less toxic than morphine 

but more toxic than, say, vitamin C.[PARA]One must also 

compare the dangers with the relative benefits. One must 

weigh the damage caused by the illness with the potential 

damage caused by the treatment. Chemotherapy involves some 

of the most toxic chemicals known to medicine but when 

compared to not using these chemicals -- death by cancer -- 

they become medically acceptable. [PARA]In both categories, 

hypericum is impressive.[PARA]As to toxicity, hypericum is 

safer than aspirin. Five hundred to one thousand people die 

each year in the United States from aspirin, usually from 

internal bleeding. Hypericum, by comparison, does not have 

a single recorded human death in 2,400 years of known 

medicinal use.[PARA]In fact, the only fatal toxicity known 

is in certain light-skinned animals, such a sheep, who die 

not from ingesting large quantities of St. John's wort 

while grazing, but of exposure to sun after. (This is why 

hypericum is considered a dangerous weed in Australia and 

is listed in Common Poisonous Plants and Mushrooms of North 

America, by Nancy J. Turner and Adam F. Szczawinski.) 

Hypericum increases the animals' susceptibility to 

sunlight, and they become sick and sometimes die from 

extreme sunburn. Medically, it's known as phytotoxicity -- 

the overexposure to light (phyto) is harmful (toxic). 

[PARA]This phenomenon, while theoretically possible in 

humans, has not been documented in the recommended doses 

for depression. Not a single case of phytotoxicity has been 

reported in human medical studies at depression-dosage 

levels. Even in AIDS research involving intravenous 

hypericum doses thirty-five times greater than the 

recommended dose for depression, the phytotoxic effects 

have been few and never deadly. (High doses of hypericum 

are being medically investigated for its antiviral 

properties.)[PARA]The potential for phytotoxicity should be 

kept in mind, however, if one has a prior hypersensitivity 

to sunlight, or if one is taking other photosensitizing 

drugs such as Chlorpromazine and Tetracyclines.[PARA]In a 

study of 3,250 patients taking hypericum, only 2.4 percent 

experienced any side effects at all. [PARA]The side effects 

reported tended to be mild. Gastrointestinal irritations 

accounted for 0.6 percent, allergic reactions for 0.5 

percent, tiredness for 0.4 percent, and restlessness for 

0.3 percent. [PARA](Interestingly, in fifteen studies 

involving 1,008 patients, the side effects in the control 

group given a harmless placebo were slightly higher than 

that of hypericum4.8 percent for the placebo group and 4.1 

percent for hypericum. The dropout rate of the placebo 

group was higher, too1.8 percent for the placebo group 

compared with 0.4 percent for hypericum.)[PARA]A higher 

figure was reported by the British Medical Journal in a 

review of six hypericum studies. In these, 10.8 percent of 

the patients reported side effects with hypericum (similar 

to the ones listed above), while 35.9 percent reported side 

effects taking prescription antidepressants. Even at this 

higher rate, the British Medical Journal concluded the side 

effects of hypericum were "rare and mild." [PARA]The 

British Medical Journal also calls for more studies on the 

long-term potential side effects of hypericum, a 

recommendation we wholehearted endorse. We can, however, 

consider facts that lie outside the strict standards of 

medical reporting. For example, the extensive use of St. 

John's wort in 2,400 years of folk and herbal medicine as 

well as the twenty-million people in Germany who have been 

taking hypericum for more than a year and have not reported 

any long-term side effects different or more prevalent than 

those of the shorter-term medical studies. [PARA]Some of 

the most troublesome side effects of prescription 

antidepressants -- reduced sexual drive or dysfunction, 

adverse interaction with alcohol or other drugs, dry mouth, 

and headache -- were not reported by patients taking 

hypericum.[PARA]Further, hypericum's side effects went away 

soon after the patients stopped taking it. There were no 

"nonreversible" side effects; that is, no permanent harm 

was done and all side effects were quickly reversed as soon 

as the patients no longer took hypericum.[PARA]The side 

effects of hypericum are mild, indeed, when compared to the 

symptoms of depression. At the extreme are the 21,000 

suicides (70 percent of all suicides) that are a direct 

result of untreated depression. Studies have shown that for 

every suicide there are ten unsuccessful suicide attempts 

and one hundred people who are seriously contemplating 

suicide.<!-- Generation of PM publication page 66 --> 

[PARA]Untreated depression is the number-one cause of 

alcoholism, drug abuse, eating disorders, and other 

addictions. A significant percentage of divorces, spousal 

and child abuse, absenteeism from work, lost jobs, and 

bankruptcies are attributed to untreated 

depression.[PARA]It is estimated that losses associated 

with depression in the United States amount to more than 

forty billion dollars each year. And who can put a price on 

the daily suffering of the twelve million Americans and 1.2 

million Canadians who have depression but are not being 

treated?[PARA]Compared with the symptoms of depression, the 

side effects of hypericum seem insignificant. For most 

people suffering symptoms of depression, the potential 

benefits far outweigh the possible risk of taking 

hypericum.[PARA]The low side-effect profile of hypericum -- 

especially when taken in the dosage recommended for the 

treatment of depression -- puts it in the category of 

herbs, vitamins, minerals, and over-the-counter 

medications. [PARA]Ever watchful for potential side 

effects, well-informed consumers can take hypericum with 

confidence.

Copyright (c) 1996 by Harold H. Bloomfield, M.D. and Peter 

McWilliams



For more information on St. John's Wort 

http://www.kombuchapower.com



----------

> From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

> To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

> Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St John's Wort

> Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 2:05 AM

>

> Please note on St Johns Wort there is a time limit on 

taking it. The

> herb is not without side effects over time.

> _snip>



_ _                                      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 

_

I had not heard of this.  Please tell me more.  I was led 

to believe the

only side

effects were sun damage to skin and maybe exemia.

People who suffer chronic depression are not cured but 

controled.  If a

medication or herb is helping them it needs to be something 

that can be

taken for long periods of time.  Users might stop for say 

two days a week

with no effect.  Would that be enough?

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: new to list

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:14:17 -0700 (MST)

--------

Hi George,

Welcome to the list.  There are herbs that you can take to aid in balancing

action of the pancreas.  I wish you the best of luck.  Let me know if you'd

like to talk.



At 09:23 PM 8/24/97 +0000, you wrote:

>I'm new to the list. I want to try herbs for all the good things that I

>have heard they do for people. I am diabetic and although there is no

>cure for diabetise, there may be herbs that will make me feel better.

>Cheers to all,  George

>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: new to list

From: Royale Shelton <rjills@cruzio.com>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 07:07:06 +0000

--------

I have read that Emzymes can help diabetes.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:14:24 -0700 (MST)

--------

Try Fenugreek, Blessed Thistle or Anise for increasing or introducing the

supply of mother's milk.



At 12:27 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:

>Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

>

>annelize

>

>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 06:22:26 UT

--------

Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

Annelize



There are great many Chinese herbs that are specific for mothersmilk. Like; Pu 

Gong Ying (Dandelion) Mai Ya (Barley Sprout) Bai Ji Li, Mu Tong, Chun Shan 

Jia, Tong Cao and Wang Bu Liu Xing. With few exceptions, Chinese herbs are 

combined in formulas to address the individual's  constitution. 



Just mixing all herbs good for lactation would not be good.



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist

Free catalog upon request

Edkasper@msn.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 09:02:06 -0700

--------

>Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

>Annelize

>

Don't neglect blessed thistle.  Combined with rest, plenty of liquid, and a

mild source of B vitamins (like rice bran syrup), it can bring milk to

bursting (I have nine kids, each breastfed almost two years, just ask me). . .



Once we had a goat who ate milkweed and nearly died.  I herbally rescued

her, but in the trauma she lost almost all her milk.  I fed her blessed

thistle and she was back to normal within a very short time.



Cathy



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: "John A. Walker" <jawalk00@pop.uky.edu>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:38:44 -0400

--------

At 09:02 AM 9/5/97 -0700, you wrote:

>>Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

>>Annelize

>>

>Don't neglect blessed thistle.  Combined with rest, plenty of liquid, and a

>mild source of B vitamins (like rice bran syrup), it can bring milk to

>bursting (I have nine kids, each breastfed almost two years, just ask me).

. .

>

>Cathy



Ok folks, I'm a bit confused.  My book, The New Holistic Herbal by David

Hoffman, doesn't mention Blessed Thistle for lactating mothers but instead

mentions Milk Thistle and Goat's Rue.  I don't have the book with me right

now but it has other uses for Blessed Thistle. Can anyone clarify this.  I

can't get to A Modern Herbal's home page right now either. 



I can't say that I've seen Milk thistle or Goat's Rue available. 



Thanks in advance. 



- John



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: dream@ilink.nis.za

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:01:03 -0700

--------

John A. Walker wrote:

> 

> At 09:02 AM 9/5/97 -0700, you wrote:

> >>Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

> >>Annelize

> >>

> >Don't neglect blessed thistle.  Combined with rest, plenty of liquid, and a

> >mild source of B vitamins (like rice bran syrup), it can bring milk to

> >bursting (I have nine kids, each breastfed almost two years, just ask me).

> . .

> >

> >Cathy

> 

> Ok folks, I'm a bit confused.  My book, The New Holistic Herbal by David

> Hoffman, doesn't mention Blessed Thistle for lactating mothers but instead

> mentions Milk Thistle and Goat's Rue.  I don't have the book with me right

> now but it has other uses for Blessed Thistle. Can anyone clarify this.  I

> can't get to A Modern Herbal's home page right now either.

> 

> I can't say that I've seen Milk thistle or Goat's Rue available.

> 

> Thanks in advance.

> 

> - John



> thank you! I have been searching high and low for Blessed thistle and

here in sunny South Africa they dont have a clue what I am asking for

..so please guys..herbs not being my strong point help!



Annelize



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:36:34 -0700 (MST)

--------

Hi John,

I've been recommending Blessed Thistle (often in combination with Fenugreek

Tea) for increasing the supply of mother's milk for many years with great

success.  Although Goat's Rue has been recommended as well, it is often

difficult to find.  Milk Thistle on the other hand, I've personally avoided

due to its effect on the detoxification and regeneration of liver function.

There is not enough information on whether toxins released from the liver,

as a result of using this herb, would cross the milk barrier.  Therefore, I

don't use it or recommend it.  The Blessed Thistle has worked so well, that

we've successfully assisted adoptive Mom's in breastfeeding their adopted

babies.

Let me know if you need further information.



At 11:38 AM 9/15/97 -0400, you wrote:

>At 09:02 AM 9/5/97 -0700, you wrote:

>>>Is there a herb to introduce mothersmilk? Or make it more?

>>>Annelize

>>>

>>Don't neglect blessed thistle.  Combined with rest, plenty of liquid, and a

>>mild source of B vitamins (like rice bran syrup), it can bring milk to

>>bursting (I have nine kids, each breastfed almost two years, just ask me).

>. .

>>

>>Cathy

>

>Ok folks, I'm a bit confused.  My book, The New Holistic Herbal by David

>Hoffman, doesn't mention Blessed Thistle for lactating mothers but instead

>mentions Milk Thistle and Goat's Rue.  I don't have the book with me right

>now but it has other uses for Blessed Thistle. Can anyone clarify this.  I

>can't get to A Modern Herbal's home page right now either. 

>

>I can't say that I've seen Milk thistle or Goat's Rue available. 

>

>Thanks in advance. 

>

>- John



Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: "Elizabeth M. Merriam" <bmerriam@alice.icanect.net>

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:29:10 -0400

--------

Tami Karnes wrote:



>  The Blessed Thistle has worked so well, that

> we've successfully assisted adoptive Mom's in breastfeeding their adopted

> babies.

> Let me know if you need further information.



Hi,  I have been reading this list for a while now, and wish to thank

everyone for all the helpful info I have read.

About adoptive Moms breastfeeding adoptive babies with the help of

herbs---After emotionally (and financially) draining infertility

treatment with an unsupportive and insensitive MD, I'm now waiting to

adopt an infant. I desperately want to breastfeed but was afraid to ask

my MD because my questions never were taken seriously.  I would

tremendously appreciate any and all info on this, including when to

start taking the herbs, how much, and anything else that might be

helpful.  

Thanks so much,  Maureen



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 14:35:55 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-20 13:57:11 EDT, you write:



<<  (snipped) but was afraid to ask

my MD because my questions never were taken seriously.  I would

tremendously appreciate any and all info on this, including when to

start taking the herbs, how much, and anything else that might be

helpful.  

Thanks so much,  Maureen >>



Well, Maureen, I'm sure mine will not be the last post you see telling you to

find another doctor.  I am very indignant about the treatment and lack of

support you received at such an emotional time.  Contact a local

breastfeeding support group through your local hospital and let them get you

some information and brochures, etc., along with the herbs you might be

recommended here.



Good luck, dear, I was adopted myself (over 50 yrs. ago).



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: herb for breastfeeding mothers

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:21:22 -0700

--------

In Dr. John R. Christopher's Home Health Care (formerly Childhood Diseases)

he told of a woman who adopted and breastfed.  He put her on his Mucusless

Diet (basically sprouted and/or low heated whole grains, steamed as well as

raw veggies, and of course fresh fruits and veggies in salads and so on, and

a moderate amount of raw nuts and seeds, soaked if possible.  He had her

drink at least a gallon of distilled water a day.  And he had her take

Blessed Thistle, perhaps three to five or more capsules three times a day.

She was to rest a lot and I would add taking a mild source of B vitamins and

iron, like rice bran syrup.



Anyhow in his story, the woman had ample milk to feed the baby.  He helped

several women do this.  Another Christopher story:  the mom of a new baby

was killed in a car accident but the infant survived.  The unmarried sister

of the deceased mom wanted to feed the baby.  She undertook the same regimen

above, with equal success.  



I have never had it happen myself since I had my own babies, but after a

bout with mastitis and losing milk, I have had real success with building it

up with Blessed Thistle.  Also, I have mentioned on the list, one of our

milk goats years ago had lost her milk because of ingesting a poisonous

plant; she almost died; after getting her back to health, I fed her Blessed

Thistle tablets and her milk came right back up.  



You probably will need to take the opportunty to relax, rest, and be at ease

if you are going to learn to feed an adopted infant (that's what birth moms

do, too).  Good luck, I admire you, best to you.



Cathy

                         



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Pregnancy

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:14:29 -0700 (MST)

--------

Dear Dayna,

If you would like a list of Herbs to Avoid in Pregnancy, for just such

reasons, please feel free to e-mail me privately and I'd be happy to

provide it.

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

nature@sedona.net



At 01:43 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:

>Dear Ms. Kress,

>My post was not to imply *my* need or *want* for an abortion. I think if

>you read the question again, you may see that it was a concern regarding

>herbs that could possibly by themselves or in combination cause such an

>experience. 

>regards

>Dayna

>

>Henriette Kress wrote:

>> 

>> On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:51:27 -0700, D <rivrbend@mint.net> wrote to

>> HerbInfo@bolis.com:

>> 

>> >I am new to this list and have a question that I can't find the answer

>> >to and was hoping that someone on the list would (have the answer). The

>> >question is: Is there an herb or a combination of herbs that would make

>> >a pregnant woman have a spontaneous miscarrage? If this is not an

>> >appropriate question for the list I apologize. If you have the answer to

>> >this question feel free to privately email me.

>> 

>> Anyone giving advice on herbs for abortion by private email is either very

>> inexperienced or not in his/her right mind.

>> You cannot expect advice on abortion over email to be anything but

dangerous, as

>> it does not take into account any of the -very- important variables

involved:

>> how many weeks, health of mother, weight of mother...

>> 

>> A foetus is -very- securely lodged in the womb. Anything you take to either

>> dislodge or kill it might very conceivably (pun intended) also dislodge

or kill

>> -you-.

>> 

>> So git, go get a hospital abortion, if you really think you need it.

>> 

>> Henriette

>> 

>> --

>> Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

>>       /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

>> Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...

>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Doggie arthritis

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:14:46 -0700 (MST)

--------

Hi Debbie,

Just wanted to let you know that in some cases it is true that animals can

take the same herbs that people take for various conditions.  However,

there are some potentially fatal exceptions to that rule.  For instance,

White Willow Bark, a common supplement taken for pain and arthritis, if

taken by a cat, can kill the cat.  

I just thought that it was important to let you know, there are exceptions.



At 09:06 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Debbie J wrote:

>

>>You can use the same herbs that you use for people!>  

>

>I am not sure that is absolutely true, but I thank you for the list of herbs

>you sent.  I am also very interested in the joint  blend you mentioned (JNT).

> I take anti-inflammatory drugs also and would love to get off.  Please email

>me with more detailed information.

>

>Thanks

>SSchuy2011@aol.com ( Sydney)



Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Fw: Need advice

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:15:07 -0700 (MST)

--------

Hi Gail,

I hope your son is okay.

First of all, some slippery elm tea would help his throat.  Secondly, I

would get him on some echinacea and goldenseal immediately (I usually add

Chaparral as well).

Next, consider giving him a ginger bath, it is very calming and detoxifying

and really helps to lower fevers.

Run a bath with hot water (hot as he can take it).

Add 1 oz. powdered ginger root (he can stir it around with his feet).

Slip into the tub as far down in as he can (if anything needs to stick out,

make it his knees - and his head, of course <grin>).

Stay in far at least 15 minutes.  He will begin to sweat profusely.

While in the tub, have him drink a cup of hot chamomile tea (it can be

sweetened slightly with honey).

Upon getting out of the tub, don't waste a lot of time getting dried off.

Get immediately into P.J.'s with cotton socks on the feet.  

Get under blankets and sweat.

This process warms the internal body, opens the pores and allows the body

to process toxins through sweating.

I use it all the time, with great success.

Let me know if you need further information.

Good Luck!



At 01:19 PM 8/31/97 -0500, you wrote:

>

> My 15 year old son has a very red, raw throat, and his chest is so tight

>it

> hurts to breathe.  Since it is the holiday weekend, doctor's offices are

> all closed.  His fever is just over 102.  Is there anything I can do to

> ease his discomfort?  I don't have many EO's - lavender, tea tree,

> peppermint, orange.  I do have a good-sized herb bed.  Thanks in

>advance...

> 

> Gail

> SERENDIPITY Soap & Sundries

> mailto:freeman@sktc.net



>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Fw: Need advice

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:37:21 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Tight chest...fever..

So do you have peppermint to put in boiling water, eucalyptis.camphor,

wintergreen?

pour boiling water into a large bowl with any or all of these. Close your

eyes tight and

inhale..tent the head with a towel and have a box of tissues ready!Make some

of the mints into a tea with honey also. If you have echinacea/goldenseal

make a gargle out

of it with a little warm water for the throat...swallow it when done.



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Fw: Need advice

From: "Andersen, Robyn" <rander@fhcrc.org>

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 09:24:17 -0700

--------

If he is really having trouble breathing I strongly encorage you to take

him to a doctor.  But I'm sure you already would have if it was. ...

If it is not bad but, he is feeling a little tight in the chest and

short of breath, coffee, tea, ephedra (if you have it sometimes called

"mormon tea"), and chocolate can help.  Your looking for mild to

moderate stimulates and theobromine here.  Doses would be maybe a cup or

two of tea and a chocolate bar (less if he is a really small kid use

your judgement of course, you didn't mention an age)  Honey and lemon

are good for the sore throat. 



	-   robyn 

>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Fw: Need advice

From: DomMana@aol.com

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:24:49 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-01 08:15:44 EDT, nature@sedona.net (Tami Karnes)

writes:



<< Get under blankets and sweat.

This process warms the internal body, opens the pores and allows the body

to process toxins through sweating. >>



If you follow this advice, be sure to have your son drink tons of fluids. A

"normal" daily fluid intake is 8-10 8oz. glasses of water. He should double

this. Fever will dehydrate a body, and sweating will only speed that up.

Severe dehydration can lead to hospitalization, so be sure he drinks, and

drinks, and drinks. He should get up to pee every hour or so.



Let us know how he's doing.

~~Anne

dommana@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Fw: Need advice

From: gawain <gawain1@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 13:44:14 -0500

--------

For this winter if your girls get sick.



Craig



At 08:15 PM 8/31/97 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Gail,

>I hope your son is okay.

>First of all, some slippery elm tea would help his throat.  Secondly, I

>would get him on some echinacea and goldenseal immediately (I usually add

>Chaparral as well).

>Next, consider giving him a ginger bath, it is very calming and detoxifying

>and really helps to lower fevers.

>Run a bath with hot water (hot as he can take it).

>Add 1 oz. powdered ginger root (he can stir it around with his feet).

>Slip into the tub as far down in as he can (if anything needs to stick out,

>make it his knees - and his head, of course <grin>).

>Stay in far at least 15 minutes.  He will begin to sweat profusely.

>While in the tub, have him drink a cup of hot chamomile tea (it can be

>sweetened slightly with honey).

>Upon getting out of the tub, don't waste a lot of time getting dried off.

>Get immediately into P.J.'s with cotton socks on the feet.  

>Get under blankets and sweat.

>This process warms the internal body, opens the pores and allows the body

>to process toxins through sweating.

>I use it all the time, with great success.

>Let me know if you need further information.

>Good Luck!

>

>At 01:19 PM 8/31/97 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>>

>> My 15 year old son has a very red, raw throat, and his chest is so tight

>>it

>> hurts to breathe.  Since it is the holiday weekend, doctor's offices are

>> all closed.  His fever is just over 102.  Is there anything I can do to

>> ease his discomfort?  I don't have many EO's - lavender, tea tree,

>> peppermint, orange.  I do have a good-sized herb bed.  Thanks in

>>advance...

>> 

>> Gail

>> SERENDIPITY Soap & Sundries

>> mailto:freeman@sktc.net

>

>>

>Wishing you health and wellness!

>

>Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

>Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

>Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

>nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

>   http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

>   offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

>   free catalog available upon request

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

http://www.inlink.com/~gawain



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Pagets Disease.

From: Andean Imports <andean@lexicom.ab.ca>

Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 23:09:15 -0600

--------

my friend just wrote me and said that there is a strong possibility he has

a disease called Paget's disease. does anyone know of this disease and also

know of any herbs etc etc that would help strengthen his body and immune

system?

	with kindest regards

	Lisa



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Pagets Disease.

From: Colleen Martinez <lenybean@flash.net>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 00:13:02 -0500

--------

Andean Imports wrote:

> 

> my friend just wrote me and said that there is a strong possibility he has

> a disease called Paget's disease. does anyone know of this disease and also

> know of any herbs etc etc that would help strengthen his body and immune

> system?

>         with kindest regards

>         Lisa 

Hi Lisa:



My grandfather has Pagets disease.  He has been diagnosed now for about 

20 years.  They say that it is now hereditary, however, his brother has 

been recently diagnosed with it.  



It is a deteoration(sp) of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord kind of 

turns to jelly.  My grandfather still can walk, but it gets around 

mostly in a wheelchair now.  He has had a couple of spinal fusions which 

has helped.  



My grandfather has been getting treatments at the local VA in 

Minneapolis, MN.  It seems to have helped stop the progression.  I don't 

know exactly what they are using.  I can find out if you like.  I don't 

know of any herbal remedies.  If anyone does know this, I would love to 

know what it might be.  



I hope this helps. 



Warm wishes, 



Colleen in Texas

POST:   email herbinfo@bolis.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Pagets Disease.

From: Andean Imports <andean@lexicom.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:12:29 -0600

--------

Hi Colleen,

	I would be definately interested in any info or help I can offer my

friend. Jamie's doctor feels he has this because of a car accident he was

involved in some time back. Also he's only 25 years old and I don't believe

it runs in his family. perhaps his doctor doesn't truly know what's going

on with jamie's body and nerves .... I don't know. still with that said Im

going to do some more research on this disease as Im not familiar with it.

	thanks for your help and feel free to email me privately

	Lisa



__________________________________________

>Hi Lisa:

--snip--

>It is a deteoration(sp) of the spinal cord.  The spinal cord kind of

>turns to jelly.  My grandfather still can walk, but it gets around

>mostly in a wheelchair now.  He has had a couple of spinal fusions which

>has helped.

--snip--

>Warm wishes,

>

>Colleen in Texas



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: stevia rebaudiana

From: gawain <gawain1@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:40:21 -0500

--------

Stevia Rebaudiana has been growing wild in upper South America for

centuries and is now cultivated in China, Japan, South Korea, Israel,

Malaysia, Brazil, Paraguay, Mexico and USA.  A member of the chrysanthemum

family, it has been used by the Paraguay Guarani Indians since ancient

times, primarily as a sweetener but also as a medicinal herb.  It may seem

too good to be true, but stevia is a noncaloric, nontoxic, natural

sweetener that even has health benefits.  The natural leaf is 200-300 times

sweeter than sugar in the concentrated white powder form.



This plant's active ingredients are two glucosides, steviosides and

rebaudiosides, the latter being somewhat better tasting.  As a whole leaf,

or liquid extraction, stevia has three major uses; flavor enhancer, herbal

tea and medicinal.  The common use is as sweetener and flavor enhancer.  In

Japan, where artificial sweeteners are banned by law, stevia has 41% of the

sweetening market.  Its use as an herbal tea, alone or with other herbals,

is popular.  Medicinally it has a beautifying effect on the skin, and

benefits glucose levels in diabetics' blood - a stabilizing effect that can

lower their blood sugar levels (but not in nondiabetic users).  It never

elevates blood sugar, allowing a diabetic to have sweets without adverse

effect on his condition.  Stevia also has mild antibacterial action, making

it suitable for use in mouthwashes, tooth paste and cold or flue remedies -

common traditional usages of the Guarini Indians.  It is further used (in

tea form) as an appetite stimulant, digestive aid and in weight management.

Combined with ginseng and other herbs, the tea is thought to prolong a

good life.  Some reports say stevia could be used as a contraceptive;

however, this has not been proved.  It is generally accepted that the

mutagenic studies (to detect for cancerous properties) done so far were not

based on valid or proven assumptions; thus there is slight question of a

possible mutagenicity, as is true of the artificial sweeteners Saccharine

and Aspartame.  With many years of use and no evidence of toxicity or side

effects, scientists do not seem to think it is necessary to do further

studies.



Machinations of the US Federal Drug agency have not approved stevia for use

other than as a nutritional supplement.  It cannot be labeled as a

sweetening agent, yet it is approved in most other countries as a safe,

noncaloric sweetener.  If labeled as a food supplement, it can be purchased

in many pharmacies and most health food stores in the US ($9/oz. in one

shop) and is generally available in the Eastern countries and Europe.  For

some years, importation of the plant to the US in any for was not allowed.

But this was changed recently.



Stevia is also stable in heat, allowing its use in cooking to replace sugar

(one Tsp stevia equals one cup sugar).  When used in cookies and cakes, it

lacks a browning effect that sugar has, so adjustments in determining

doneness must be made.  There is a slightly bitter aftertaste if refined

leaves are used in excess - less true with less refined leaves - and a hint

of a licorice flavor (also a natural sweetener) that many desire.



It seems that personal use of stevia will be permitted in the USA; but

generalized use in the food industry to replace the less than innocuous

Aspartame and Saccharin seems unlikely in the foreseeable future.



by Devananda Tandavan, M.D.

for Hinduism Today

September, 1997

http://www.inlink.com/~gawain



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To: <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re:  Need advice

From: "Gail Freeman" <freeman@sktc.net>

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 23:23:21 -0500

--------

I want to thank everyone who answered my request for help with my son's

illness.  I ended up taking him to the emergency room, where they did a

strep test, which came out negative.  They said he just had some virus that

was going around.  So I brought him home and used many of the suggestions

that were sent to me to help him feel more comfortable.  This evening he

was feeling very well and plans to go to school tomorrow.  Thanks so much

for your help.



Gail

SERENDIPITY Soap & Sundries

mailto:freeman@sktc.net



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #54

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:28:57 -0400

--------

Siberian Ginseng

(Eleutherococcus senticosus)



Pharmacology

The eleutherosides have been shown to be responsible for 

the adaptogenic properties of the plant. The eleutherosides 

are a range of glycosides with aromatic alcohol aglycones. 

(Ginsenosides have triterpenoid aglycones) the glycosides 

appear o act on the adrenal glands, helping to prevent 

adrenal hypertrophy and excess corticosteroid production in 

response to stress.  The eleutherosides additionally help 

reduce the exhaustion phase of the stress response and 

return the adrenals to normal function faster.



Active Properties

Deep-sea divers, long-distance drivers, mountain rescue 

workers, factory workers, athletes, submariners, and 

cosmonauts use Siberian Ginseng.  After nearly a thousand 

studies, Siberian Ginseng has been shown to increase energy 

and stamina and to help the body resist viral infections, 

environmental toxins, radiation, and chemotherapy.  In 

Chinese Medicine, E. senticosus has been used to prevent 

bronchial and other respiratatory infections as well as 

viral infections.  The Chinese used the rood also to 

provide energy and vitality, to increase resistance, and 

vitality, to increase resistance, and to treat rheumatic 

diseases and heart ailments.  Siberian Ginseng has been 

used in cardiovascular and neurovascular conditions to help 

restore memory, concentration and cognitive abilities which 

may be impaired from poor blood supply to the brain. 

Additionally Siberian Ginseng is a popular herbal remedy 

for debility, depression, fatigue, and nervous breakdown.



Directions for Use

500-600 mg. Extract daily as a dietary supplement.



Toxicity, Cautions & Contra-Indications

No toxicity or side effects reported.  Should not be taken 

with a high fever (above 39(C) or at a very high blood 

pressure (WHO stage 2).



Available from Kombucha Power Products

#76135 Siberian Ginseng  60 capsules $14.95

each capsule contains 200mg. of Eleuthero (Siberian 

Ginseng) root herbal extract, providing 1.6mg of 

eleutherosides.  Standardizedized at .8%  eleutherosides.



Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	safesci [SMTP:safesci@ntplx.net]

Sent:	Monday, August 25, 1997 10:08 PM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #54



Siberian Ginsing - How much, how often and of what benefit 

is it as an

herb?



==========

To: HERBINFO@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: re: parsley & pregnancy..

From: BERRYD <BERRYD@cnc.bc.ca>

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:35:41 -0700 (PDT)

--------

At 04:01 PM 8/28/97 -0700, you wrote:



>Good afternoon:

>

>I don't know about the herbs you mentioned but I do know that

>parsley is not a good herb for you to be eating.

>

>Its a dieretic (spelling).

>

>Diana



Are you saying this because of the pregancy or anytime?



TIA

Jennifer



*********************

Hi Jennifer:



I only meant during  pregnancy.  The information is from a few different

books but the one I have at work right now is Jekka's Complete Herb

Book by Jekka McVicar.



It has a warning for expectant Mothers.  Parsley is very rich in vitamins

including C.  The book also says its high in iron and other minerals. But,

is a strong diuretic.  



The book says it should be used under medical supervision.



I'm sure that eaten in moderation there would be no  problem but the

more I learn about herbs the more I realize I know very little..  :-)



Diana



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: herbinfo: Pregnancy (cooking)

From: "Silver Sage" <ssage@idyllwild.com>

Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:07:52 -0700

--------

I hope that this can be of some help to you.  I have an article

on my web page concerning an Herbal Pregnancy....  the following

is the gist of it.



If you are trying to become pregnant, it is best to avoid the

following herbs, before pregnancy and during the first

trimester, some have been known to prevent conception while

others are uterine contractors:

Wild Carrot Seed

Rue

Buckwheat

Elder

Smartweed

Ginger root

Tansy

Angelica

Lemon Balm

Bethroot

Black Cohosh

Blue Cohosh

Cotton Root Bark

European Vervain

Ergot fungus

Feverfew (in flower)

Hyssop

Liferoot (in flower)

Lovage

Marijuana

Mistletoe

Motherwort

Mugwort

Osha

Peruvian Bark

Rosemary (in flower)

Rue

Saffron

Sumac

Sweet Flag

fresh Wood Sorrel

Pennyroyal  (This herb, in tincture, infusion or oil should be

completely avoided before and throughout pregnancy.  Even the

oil massaged into the skin has been known to cause abortion. 

Never, never take the oil internally, it can be fatal.) 



Birth defects are something that is in every mother-to-be's

thoughts.  The following list of herbs are considered to be

teratogens, that is substances that can cause birth defects. 

These are just as important a consideration as alchohol,

caffeine, smoking or any other of those vices we give up for the

sake of our babies.

Ma Huang (Ephedra)

Osha 

Flax seed

Senna

Aloes

Castor Oil

Turkey Rhubarb

Buckthorn

Cascara Sagrada

Buchu

Horsetail

Juniper berries

Agave

Ginseng

Licorice

Hops

Sage



Herbs Generally Considered Safe

By now you are probably asking just what herbs you CAN use. 

There are many that for years have been used safely and indeed

regularly throughout pregnancy to promote a healthy pregnancy

and an easier delivery.  However, since every woman and every

pregnancy is an individual please consult your health care

professional before using any herbs, even those generally

considered safe.



Red Raspberry (thought to aid fertility in men and women when

combined with Red Clover, considered safe during all phases of

pregnancy by the FDA, tones and nourishes the uterine muscles,

may enrich and increase the flow of milk,  aids in restoring the

system following childbirth)

Nettle (rich in calcium, iron and many other vitamins and

minerals, mild diuretic, used by Native Americans throughout

pregnancy and because of it's Vitamin K content it may aid in

cases of hemorrahaging during delivery)

Anise, Peppermint, Spearmint or Fennel Tea (for morning

sickness)

Wild Yam (for morning sickness, and preventing threatened

miscarriage)

Black Haw, False Unicorn (for preventing chronic miscarriage)

Burdock (mild diuretic, full of vitamins and minerals, an

excellent herb for the liver)

Blessed Thistle (may stimulate blood flow to the mammary glands,

it's hemostatic properties may reduce the chance of

hemorrhaging)

Sarsaparilla

Squaw Vine (used by the Native Americans to tone and nourish the

uterus)

Chamomile ( lifts the spirits,  relieve stress, calming and

soothing, may help with digestive problems, has a high calcium

content)

Black Haw (may prevent miscarriage, calms the uterine muscles

eases uterine contractions)

Cramp bark (herbalists consider this one of the best herbal

remedies for preventing miscarriage)

Dandelion (high content of vitamins and minerals, to aid

digestion, mild diuretic and has a high potassium content)

Lady's Mantle (used for toning the uterus, helpful in reducing

the chance of hemorrhage, eases morning sickness)

Oat straw (high in calcium and magnesium, eases nervous stress

and tension)

Strawberry leaf (may be used to prevent miscarriage, for fevers

and diarrhea)



Other Sources of Information

This list is by no means complete or inclusive.  There are many

excellent books published on the subject.  Please take the time

to read one or better yet,  several.   Two excellent choices are

Herbal Healing for Women by Rosemary Gladstar and Wise Woman

Herbal for the Childbearing Year by Susun S. Weed.  Both books

are very well written and full of good information and sage

advice.  The Gladstar book is for women of all ages from puberty

to menopause with an excellent section on pregnancy and

childbirth.  She includes many suggestions and recipe's. Susan

Weed's book is specifically about pregnancy and childbirth,

including getting pregnant and baby's first year.  Both books

cover simple  problems such as morning sickness,  heartburn, and

leg cramps and many other common conditions as well as more

serious issues like miscarriage, pre-eclampsia and problems

during delivery. 



Blessings and a healthy pregnancy to you!

Silver Sage (ssage@idyllwild.com)



Dances with Herbs for all your herbal needs!

http://www.idyl.com/shops/dancesh.htm



Silver Sage: The Outrageous Herb Lady, history

lore, recipes, articles and more.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/8300



----------

> From: BERRYD <BERRYD@cnc.bc.ca>



snip



> 

> Well, I was planning on grilling some fish later in the week,

and I'd love

> to use the same combination, but I wanted to find out if it

was dangerous

> for me, a possibly pregnant woman, to eat those herbs as part

of a culinary

> dish?  

> ************************************

> Good afternoon:

> 

> I don't know about the herbs you mentioned but I do know that

> parsley is not a good herb for you to be eating.

> 

> Its a dieretic (spelling).

> 

> Diana

> 

> OWNER:  email herbinfo-owner@bolis.com or

sbrooks@earthlink.net

> > > guarantee the validity of information presented on these

pages.

> > 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: herbinfo: Pregnancy (cooking)

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 18:39:49 -0700

--------

Silver Sage sent good info about herbs and pregnancy.



I was wondering though why flax seed should be avoided in pregnancy?



Cathy

                         



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To: email@mail.lanline.com, herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: green nations gathering

From: Bonnie Rogers <phdbonnie@cyburban.com>

Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 07:36:13 -0400

--------

Hi,

I just learned of and joined your list and hope that I will learn a lot.

Just a quick ? for all of you.  I"m going to the Green Nations Gathering

in Phonecia NY Sept 26-28th and wanted to know if anyone else will be

going, its always nice to meet cyberfriends.

-- 

Bonnie Rogers

***********************************************************

Regional Director, PHD Products, Inc. 

"the most natural alternative food for your 

 canine and feline friends"

  http://www.pageweb.com/phd/

phdbonnie@holistic.com       800-863-3403

***********************************************************



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: green nations gathering

From: Bonnie Rogers <phdbonnie@cyburban.com>

Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:33:52 -0400

--------

Dara,

The coordinator for the conference is Green Terrestrial Herbs

You can reach them at 914-795-5238

Let me know if you'll be there, would be fun to meet. 

I was there last year and it was an awesome conference

-- 

Bonnie Rogers

***********************************************************

Regional Director, PHD Products, Inc. 

"the most natural alternative food for your 

 canine and feline friends"

  http://www.pageweb.com/phd/

phdbonnie@holistic.com       800-863-3403

***********************************************************



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:  Thank-You

From: Carolyn Lieberg <carolyn-lieberg@uiowa.edu>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:27:03 -0600

--------



>Also thanks to Ray Bayley for sending me his messages on coffee.  They are

>*exactly* what I needed, and though my husband hasn't quit cold turkey, he

>is weaning himself off of his morning habit.



One MORE comment on coffee.  I stopped drinking it as a routine a few

months ago.  Now I enjoy a cup or two as a treat on weekend afternoons.  It

has an entirely different role in my life.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Humidifiers

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:24:45 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Everyone!



You can add a little mint, or bay leaf,dryed lemon or orange reins.

let me know if it worked out ok. :)



On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Deatherage, Geralyn wrote:



> Hello all!

>    Would anyone happen to know some good herbs to add to a humidifier?

> Just for general purposes you know, add a little flavor to the air. 

> 

> TIA,

> Geralyn

> Gdeather@regalusa.com



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: Tom Irvin <fullmoon@usit.net>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:54:29 -0400 (EDT)

--------

we live in southern middle Tennessee, almost due south of Nashville, but

closer to Alabama...Could someone please tell me what will I need to dig up

and bring indoors, and what can stay out, and do they need a straw mulch?  I

know the Rosemaries and Lemon Grass come it, and the mints are mostly hardy,

but what about the Thymes, Tarragon, Lavenders, Lemon Verbena, Sages?????

Thank-you,



Rebecca



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: Mitch Robertson <wanrob@hiwaay.net>

Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 15:21:00 -0500

--------

> but what about the Thymes, Tarragon, Lavenders, Lemon Verbena, Sages?????



Rebecca,  I live just south of the Tennessee border in northwest

Alabama.  All my sages survive well outside, although the pineapple and

honeydew sages need to be mulched heavily.  All the mints do very well

overwintering outside; most stay green until after Christmas.  So far, I

have not found a way to keep lemon verbena alive through the winter.  I

brought it inside last winter, but it did not survive. I have asked

Santa and DH for a greenhouse before this winter, but it has not shown

up yet!!!   Wanda



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: DomMana@aol.com

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:59:48 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-04 15:13:55 EDT, fullmoon@usit.net writes:



<< we live in southern middle Tennessee, almost due south of Nashville, but

closer to Alabama...Could someone please tell me what will I need to dig up

and bring indoors, and what can stay out, and do they need a straw mulch?  I

know the Rosemaries and Lemon Grass come it, and the mints are mostly hardy,

but what about the Thymes, Tarragon, Lavenders, Lemon Verbena, Sages????? >>



Hi Rebecca. 

I live in Maryland. I would imagine that your winters are either about like

mine, or maybe milder. Of the herbs you mentioned, I only can answer to the

sage and the rosemary. I have some of the others, but this is my first year

with them!



My sage has overwintered twice now, and survived being transplanted once. It

is huge and happy!

My rosemary ARP struggled through the winter outside and made a comeback. I

have now added another variety also said to be more hardy than most

rosemaries, and I plan to mulch them heavily and cross my fingers for next

spring!



~~Anne

dommana@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: BLACKKAT <BLACKKAT@DeKalb.Net>

Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 07:56:42 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Rebecca,

you wrote:

>we live in southern middle Tennessee, almost due south of Nashville, but

>closer to Alabama...Could someone please tell me what will I need to dig up

>and bring indoors, and what can stay out, and do they need a straw mulch?  I

>know the Rosemaries and Lemon Grass come it, and the mints are mostly hardy,

>but what about the Thymes, Tarragon, Lavenders, Lemon Verbena, Sages?????



I live in Smithville, TN. and my thymes, lavenders, sages and tarragon

overwinter

very well with lots of mulch.  Like you, I bring my rosemary, lemon grass

and lemon

verbenas inside.



I've had my herb beds for 12 years now and all perrenials are hardy........I

just

use a lot of mulch.  We have many pine trees around in the back yard and a

lot of the mulch is pine needles strategically placed by Mother Nature.



Sand

BlackKat Herbals

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Herbs, Books, Salves, Teas, Homeopathics, Earth Change Info

Independent Distributor of SamAndy Emergency Supplies

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==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: DomMana@aol.com

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:07:59 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-05 08:25:59 EDT, BLACKKAT@Dekalb.Net writes:



<< I've had my herb beds for 12 years now and all perrenials are

hardy........I

just

use a lot of mulch.  We have many pine trees around in the back yard and a

lot of the mulch is pine needles strategically placed by Mother Nature. >>



Ah, I wish I had pine trees like that! That's one advantage of living in the

South -- all that wonderful pine straw. I live in Maryland, and have no pines

in my yard. :-(



All I have in my yard in the fall are tons of oak and tulip poplar leaves.

Usually I use those as over-winter mulch. Does anyone have any info on

whether this is NOT ok to do? I've heard oak leaves are good, esp. for acid

loving plants like azaleas -- but I'm not sure about my herbs. Should I go

buy mulch at the store? (I hate to buy when I could use leaves for free.)



Thanks!

~~Anne 

dommana@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: winterizing herbs

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 03:33:40 -0400

--------

DomMana@aol.com wrote:



>

> Ah, I wish I had pine trees like that! That's one advantage

> of living in the

> SAll I have in my yard in the fall are tons of oak and tulip

> poplar leaves.

> Usually I use those as over-winter mulch. Does anyone have

> any info on

> whether this is NOT ok to do? I've heard oak leaves are

> good, esp. for acid

> loving plants like azaleas -- but I'm not sure about my

> herbs. Should I go

> buy mulch at the store? (I hate to buy when I could use

> leaves for free.)

> Mulching here in Canada I like to use sugar maple leaves or

> any hard maple leaves because they are alkaline.  This



is because I assume most of the compost I make tends to be a

bit acid. What I do is spread them out on the lawn when I cut

the grass and get qa mixture of grass and leaves shredded for

a mulch then they are already partly broken down for spring

time. Mulching plants shouldn't take place  for winter

protection until after it freezes. This is to protectthe plant

from freezing and thawing back and forth so that it winters

over better. Another idea is recycling centres. We have an

endless supply of mulch and compost for free here, people drop

off their grass, leaves, flowers, pine needles,

and a bull dozier turns it over, then a big machine screens

it.p.n



>

>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: Sara Barnett <sbarnet@uvi.edu>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:49:44 -0400 (AST)

--------



I live in the Virgin Islands and problems with mosquitos inside.   I also 

have cats, so I don't like to spray with anything toxic, plus I hate 

smearing gooey insect repellent on me.



Any ideas as to inside plants I can have around to discourage mosquitos? 

Or non-toxic sprays, etc?  Is there anything I can ingest to make me less 

attractive to mosquitos?



TIA

Sara  sbarnet@uvi.edu



==========

To: Sara Barnett <sbarnet@uvi.edu>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:42:49 -0500

--------

Citronella plants impart a nice aroma and keep the bugs away.  As far 

as ingesting, a good B complex works wonders on making the 

mosquitoes not bite you.   Aside from food grade yeasts , the best 

formulation on the market that I have found is Schiff Natural B 

complex with B-12.  it has the right ratios of the B's.    Don't use 

any of the DEET compounds and don't eat bananas.



On  4 Sep 97 at 17:49 

Sara Barnett wrote: 



> 

> I live in the Virgin Islands and problems with mosquitos inside.   I

> also have cats, so I don't like to spray with anything toxic, plus I

> hate smearing gooey insect repellent on me.

> 

> Any ideas as to inside plants I can have around to discourage

> mosquitos? Or non-toxic sprays, etc?  Is there anything I can ingest

> to make me less attractive to mosquitos?

> 

> 

> TIA

> Sara  sbarnet@uvi.edu



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 09:13:23 UT

--------

Don't use any of the DEET compounds and don't eat bananas. 



What with the bananas ? 



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist

Free catalog upon request

Edkasper@msn.com



==========

To: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:56:57 -0500

--------

IF you are trying to avoid mosquitoes.  Aromatics end up being 

transpired thru skin.  From what I understood,  mosquitoes are heat 

seeking until close range and then chemical sense takes over.  Some 

smells, tastes seem to attract them more than others.   Mosquitoes 

don't like taste of B vitamins.  They do like banana taste.  Problem 

is that bananas cary a  lot of certain minerals.  Maybe you shuold 

eat bananas AND take lots of  the Schiff B complex.  



On  5 Sep 97 at 9:13 

Ed Kasper wrote: 



> Don't use any of the DEET compounds and don't eat bananas. 

> 

> What with the bananas ? 

> 

> Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist

> Free catalog upon request

> Edkasper@msn.com



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: silwit@suba.com (Ray Bayley)

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 04:13:24 -0500 (CDT)

--------

>I live in the Virgin Islands and problems with mosquitos inside.   I also

>have cats, so I don't like to spray with anything toxic, plus I hate

>smearing gooey insect repellent on me.

>

>Any ideas as to inside plants I can have around to discourage mosquitos?

>Or non-toxic sprays, etc?  Is there anything I can ingest to make me less

>attractive to mosquitos?

>TIA

>Sara  sbarnet@uvi.edu



So far I've seen ingesting lots of thiamin (vitamin B1) (usually at least

100 mg a day; eventually could lead to mineral and other B vitamin

imbalances so probably best taken in long run in B complex [but don't

exceed 200 mg B6 {unless...oh, this is getting too complicated}]), keeping

blood sugar more in the middle (rather than dysfunctional roller-coastering

or diabetic high), improving protein digestion, keeping the colon clearer,

and being more vegan all work to discourage mosquitoes from within.

Bzzzz, Ray



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:12:31 -0400

--------

Mosquitoes were a big problem for me for the past 30 years 

here in Florida, until I started drinking Kombucha Tea. 

Also I was told that Neem is a good repellant for 

mosquitoes.  You can grow a Neem tree or there are Neem 

preparations available.

Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com Kombucha Kits, ready made 

Kombucha tea and much more.

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	Ray Bayley [SMTP:silwit@SUBA.COM]

Sent:	Friday, September 05, 1997 5:13 AM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos



>I live in the Virgin Islands and problems with mosquitos 

inside.   I also

>have cats, so I don't like to spray with anything toxic, 

plus I hate

>smearing gooey insect repellent on me.

>

>Any ideas as to inside plants I can have around to 

discourage mosquitos?

>Or non-toxic sprays, etc?  Is there anything I can ingest 

to make me less

>attractive to mosquitos?

>TIA

>Sara  sbarnet@uvi.edu



So far I've seen ingesting lots of thiamin (vitamin B1) 

(usually at least

100 mg a day; eventually could lead to mineral and other B 

vitamin

imbalances so probably best taken in long run in B complex 

[but don't

exceed 200 mg B6 {unless...oh, this is getting too 

complicated}]), keeping

blood sugar more in the middle (rather than dysfunctional 

roller-coastering

or diabetic high), improving protein digestion, keeping the 

colon clearer,

and being more vegan all work to discourage mosquitoes from 

within.

Bzzzz, Ray



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: DRudabaugh@aol.com

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:25:08 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Thanks for the info on Citronella.. question...Does it work on Flies too? I'm

looking for something to plant around my horses stall possibly to keep all

the bugs away... 



:) Thanks

Sophie 



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:47:21 -0400

--------

Try Neen trees

Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	DRudabaugh@aol.com [SMTP:DRudabaugh@aol.com]

Sent:	Friday, September 05, 1997 7:25 PM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos



Thanks for the info on Citronella.. question...Does it work 

on Flies too? I'm

looking for something to plant around my horses stall 

possibly to keep all

the bugs away...



:) Thanks

Sophie



==========

To: harmony@the-wire.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:16:52 -0500

--------

Yes, It is hard to find places where they give the ratios.  There are 

a few good books on Nutrition.  However, one of the places though is 

an oldie but goodie - Adelle Davis.  I think it's "Let's Eat right to 

keep fit".....  Just went to see if I still have it.  The Library 

Angel helped. I found it and it opened to the page.  Chapter 15, 

entitled "I Wish I Knew".  



Excerpted From page 109 --110:



The ratios she knew of in 1954 were equal  amounts of B1, B2, and B6 

and Folic Acid.  There should be 20 times more of Niacin (or 

niacinamide) pantothenic acid, PABA.  Five hundred (500) times more 

of inositol and cholin(Lecithin).  At that time only 1 - 3 micrograms 

of B12 seemed to be needed.   She did not know of any studies on the 

amount of Biotin. 



The Schiff Super B Complex with B12 comes closer than most of the 

other readily available common brands.  [ B1=30mg ,B2=35mg , B6=15mg 

Folic Acid=400 mcg, Niacinamide=50mg, Pantothenic=100mg, 

PABA=50mcg, Choline= 50mg, Inositol=100mcg, B12=100mcg, 

Biotin=300mcg.] Huh, been a long time since I checked the ratios they 

use.  I remembered them being much closer.  I take extra Lecithin so 

that gives the boost I need for Choline annd Inositol.  Plus if 

you are over 40, take extra B12 (sublingual works best and is 

most expensive).  There has been some better info gained over the 

years so some of the differences are valid, plus the good ol FDA 

won't let them sell too much of some vitamins (But you can buy all 

the tobacco, valium, and alcohol you want - oops wrong soap box).   

Drat, now I need to do some lookup to see what current knowledge 

is on ratios.  I haven't really checked in about 6 - 7 years and 

Schiff usually does a fair job.  (I don't work for Schiff nor own 

stock in them) If you have a good health food store, they may have a 

different or lesser known brand that is good.  AVOID THE ONES THAT 

ARE "BALANCED"  BY HAVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF EVERYTHING. Like a 100 

xx or 50xx of whatever.



The books are only a guide line though to keep you from screwing up 

too much while you figure out what your  unique requirements are.  By 

taking too much of one you can create a deficiency in another and 

create a problem - Like getting eczema by taking the wrong ratios. 



If you want, let me know and I will tell you what I found after I 

finish looking it up.



On  8 Sep 97 at 0:34 harmony@the-wire.com 

wrote: 



> On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 you wrote to the herb list:

> 

> --snip--

>  the best 

> formulation on the market that I have found is Schiff Natural B

> complex with B-12.  it has the right ratios of the B's. --snip--

> 

> I read this with great interest.  Can you recommend a source of

> information where I can learn more about " the right ratios of the

> B's", and any thing else along those lines?. I know all all

> supliments are not created equal, and there are better combinations

> than some, but that info. I have not found easily available. Any

> help is appreciated.

> 

> Thank you in advance.

> Jim<harmony@the-wire.com>

> 

> 

Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:53:45 -0700 (MST)

--------

This may sound strange to some, however, try daily doses of vitamin B-12.

I used to get seriously chewed up by the mosquitos, when I was younger.

For many years now, during the humid summer months when the mosquitos are

most prevalent, I take vitamin B-12 1,000mcg every day and I don't get

eaten up any more.



At 05:49 PM 9/4/97 -0400, you wrote:

>

>I live in the Virgin Islands and problems with mosquitos inside.   I also 

>have cats, so I don't like to spray with anything toxic, plus I hate 

>smearing gooey insect repellent on me.

>

>Any ideas as to inside plants I can have around to discourage mosquitos? 

>Or non-toxic sprays, etc?  Is there anything I can ingest to make me less 

>attractive to mosquitos?

>

>TIA

>Sara  sbarnet@uvi.edu

>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

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free catalog available upon request



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:46:35 -0500

--------

At 12:53 PM 9/14/97 -0700, you wrote:

>This may sound strange to some, however, try daily doses of vitamin B-12.

>I used to get seriously chewed up by the mosquitos, when I was younger.

>For many years now, during the humid summer months when the mosquitos are

>most prevalent, I take vitamin B-12 1,000mcg every day and I don't get

>eaten up any more.



This works for me also.  I use a B complex 50mg and it still helps just the

same.  I used it on the big test -- Boundary Waters Canada -- and I did not

get nearly as chewed as my friends did. :)



P.

Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net



Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline   

Dog Obedience Training

Iowa, USA



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: George Greene <g.greene@ang119.angola.elf-p.fr>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:37:35 +0100

--------



>Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

>

>This may sound strange to some, however, try daily doses of vitamin B-12.

>I used to get seriously chewed up by the mosquitos, when I was younger.

>For many years now, during the humid summer months when the mosquitos are

>most prevalent, I take vitamin B-12 1,000mcg every day and I don't get

>eaten up any more.



Another "home remedy" that I have personal experience with that seems to

work for me is daily garlic.  As much as you can enjoy.



I have lived in malarial zones for 6 years now.  I took anti-mailarial

prophylaxis for the forst year but it's side effects were too

debilitating(among them asthma).



So I stopped the Paludrine and Nivaquine and tried _lots_ of garlic in my

food(at my housekeeper's suggestion).  I like the flavor and the other

benefits for the CVS are not to be discounted as well.



It seems to have worked(guess I smell bad to the 'squiters;-)).



In the subsequent 5 years, the only time I have contracted malaria was upon

returning after a month in the States and a normal US diet.  This seems to

have worked for my wife as well.



FWIW.  George



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:52:02 -0700

--------

That is wonderful folks, but I can't eat alot of garlic!  I LIKE it, but my 

tummy gets on fire if I eat too much of it.  Any other suggestions?



Paula



On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, George Greene <g.greene@ang119.angola.elf-p.fr> wrote:

>

>>Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

>>

>>This may sound strange to some, however, try daily doses of vitamin B-12.

>>I used to get seriously chewed up by the mosquitos, when I was younger.

>>For many years now, during the humid summer months when the mosquitos are

>>most prevalent, I take vitamin B-12 1,000mcg every day and I don't get

>>eaten up any more.

>

>Another "home remedy" that I have personal experience with that seems to

>work for me is daily garlic.  As much as you can enjoy.

>

>I have lived in malarial zones for 6 years now.  I took anti-mailarial

>prophylaxis for the forst year but it's side effects were too

>debilitating(among them asthma).

>

>So I stopped the Paludrine and Nivaquine and tried _lots_ of garlic in my

>food(at my housekeeper's suggestion).  I like the flavor and the other

>benefits for the CVS are not to be discounted as well.

>

>It seems to have worked(guess I smell bad to the 'squiters;-)).

>

>In the subsequent 5 years, the only time I have contracted malaria was upon

>returning after a month in the States and a normal US diet.  This seems to

>have worked for my wife as well.

>

>FWIW.  George

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitos

From: Cole <coleb@ncweb.com>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:27:35 -0400

--------

pswarner@sprynet.com wrote:

> 

> That is wonderful folks, but I can't eat alot of garlic!  I LIKE it, but my

> tummy gets on fire if I eat too much of it.  Any other suggestions?

> 

> Paula

>

Not an herb, but safe = AVON's "Skin-So-Soft".  Use it in your bath

water or as an after shower skin rub.  Comes in several forms.

We use the oil.  It repels those little buggers!

Luck,

Carter



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Lemon balm tea

From: Ela_Heyn@notes.pw.com

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 10:23:11 EDT

--------

Could anyone give me info on how best to make lemon balm tea, please?  



I've been growing lemon balm on two of my windowsills (indoors) for a number of 

months now, and have quite thick, healthy plants.  Last Sunday, I tried just 

snipping some lemon balm stems and putting them into a kettle with boiling 

water.  This didn't result in much of anything.



I've considered cutting some branches, and hanging them up to dry, then cutting 

up the dried branches to make tea.  Is that the correct way of doing it?  Also, 

are there any cautions that I should know about in regards to lemon balm 

(things like prescription drug/herb interactions, photosensitivity, etc.)?  

Thanks!



- Ela



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Lemon balm tea

From: DomMana@aol.com

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:27:51 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-05 10:38:02 EDT, Ela_Heyn@notes.pw.com writes:



<< Could anyone give me info on how best to make lemon balm tea, please?  



I've been growing lemon balm on two of my windowsills (indoors) for a number

of 

months now, and have quite thick, healthy plants.  Last Sunday, I tried just



snipping some lemon balm stems and putting them into a kettle with boiling 

water.  This didn't result in much of anything. >>



I have used my lemon balm in iced tea, along with regular tea bags. What I do

is put a couple of handfuls of freshly cut lemon balm sprigs, twisted a bit

to crush them slightly, in the pot with my tea bags. I pour the boiling water

over it all, and let it steep for 5 minutes. Then I take the tea bags out,

but leave the herbs in for another ten minutes or so. (For iced tea, I then

add an equal amount of cold water to the concentrate.)



You may not have been steeping the herbs long enough. Try crushing the leaves

first, using more of them, and steeping them longer until you get the

concentration you like.



~~Anne

dommana@aol.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: two questions

From: "John A. Walker" <jawalk00@pop.uky.edu>

Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 10:30:03 -0400

--------

Hi folks 



I've got two questions for everyone.  The first is a back to the

pregnancy issue.  My wife is having headaches during this pregnancy and

it dawned on me that I had read somewhere that there was a herbal

treatment for headaches during pregnancy.  I checked my recently

purchased copy of <underline>The New Holistic Herbal</underline> by David

Haffmann (thanks to all those people who recommended it) and it wasn't in

there.  Then it occurred to me that it may have been in our recent

discussions of pregnancy and herbs on the list.  If it was mentioned here

could the poster send me the information again.



My second question involves cuts.  My three year old cut his face right

next to his lip.  It was bad but not bad enough for stitches.  It took a

while for the bleeding to stop. I couldn't find a clear answer in

<underline>The New Holistic Herbal</underline> for how to treat the

bleeding.  It mentions many alternatives for cuts but I got the sense

that some of this was for healing of the cut not necessarily stopping

bleeding.  The one most mentioned in the book was Comfrey.  Do any of you

have any other suggestions for this situation.



Thanks in advance



John Walker



jawalk00@pop.uky.edu



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:33:37 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Re: Bleeding



to stop bleeding oped a bag of regular tea and place it over the bloody cut

this will help the blood to clot. 



I hope it works :)



On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, John A. Walker wrote:



> Hi folks 

> 

> 

> I've got two questions for everyone.  The first is a back to the

> pregnancy issue.  My wife is having headaches during this pregnancy and

> it dawned on me that I had read somewhere that there was a herbal

> treatment for headaches during pregnancy.  I checked my recently

> purchased copy of <underline>The New Holistic Herbal</underline> by David

> Haffmann (thanks to all those people who recommended it) and it wasn't in

> there.  Then it occurred to me that it may have been in our recent

> discussions of pregnancy and herbs on the list.  If it was mentioned here

> could the poster send me the information again.

> 

> 

> My second question involves cuts.  My three year old cut his face right

> next to his lip.  It was bad but not bad enough for stitches.  It took a

> while for the bleeding to stop. I couldn't find a clear answer in

> <underline>The New Holistic Herbal</underline> for how to treat the

> bleeding.  It mentions many alternatives for cuts but I got the sense

> that some of this was for healing of the cut not necessarily stopping

> bleeding.  The one most mentioned in the book was Comfrey.  Do any of you

> have any other suggestions for this situation.

> 

> 

> Thanks in advance

> 

> 

> John Walker

> 

> jawalk00@pop.uky.edu



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 15:25:09 -0500

--------

Monique Bridges wrote:

> 

> Re: Bleeding

> 

> to stop bleeding oped a bag of regular tea and place it over the bloody cut

> this will help the blood to clot.

> 

> I hope it works :)

> 

>



good answer and I will add that Black Pekoe cut works the fastest!

(your regular everyday grocery store type!)



Choalayna



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: AndreaRdr@aol.com

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:24:54 -0400 (EDT)

--------

OK -- on the tea thing, real DUMB question here, but you put the loose, dry

tea over the cut?  



-Andrea, needing everything explained REAL slow some days.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:41:45 -0400 (EDT)

--------

You take the dry tea and put it over the cut.



On Sat, 6 Sep 1997 AndreaRdr@aol.com wrote:



> OK -- on the tea thing, real DUMB question here, but you put the loose, dry

> tea over the cut?  

> 

> -Andrea, needing everything explained REAL slow some days



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: DomMana@aol.com

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 14:07:07 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-06 11:28:25 EDT, AndreaRdr@aol.com writes:



<< OK -- on the tea thing, real DUMB question here, but you put the loose,

dry

tea over the cut?  



-Andrea, needing everything explained REAL slow some days. >>



Andrea,

Who was it who said once that "the only dumb question is the one you don't

ask?" Your question is a good one!



I would think that you would dampen a tea bag slightly with water, and put

that on the cut. At least, when I was told to use tea bags when I was

lactating, that's what the nurses told me to do.



~~Anne

dommana@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: AndreaRdr@aol.com

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:40:19 -0400 (EDT)

--------



>>I would think that you would dampen a tea bag slightly with water, and put

that on the cut. <<



Thanks, Anne -- that sure seems like the neatest way to do it, although he

mentioned cutting open the bag.  Seems like opening the bag would run the

risk of lotso little tea things in an open wound, but maybe there's some

trick to doing that (there usually is, eh?  <s>).  



-AndreaR



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: two questions

From: "Silver Sage" <ssage@idyllwild.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:45:09 -0700

--------

For your wife's headaches, have her try rubbing a little

essential oil of lavender on her temples.  Lavender used thusly,

often helps a headache in 10 to 15 minutes.



Silver Sage (ssage@idyllwild.com)



Dances with Herbs for all your herbal needs!

http://www.idyl.com/shops/dancesh.htm



Silver Sage: The Outrageous Herb Lady, history

lore, recipes, articles and more.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/8300



----------

> From: John A. Walker <jawalk00@pop.uky.edu>

> To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

> Subject: HerbInfo: two questions

> Date: Friday, September 05, 1997 7:30 AM

> 

> Hi folks 

> 

> 

> I've got two questions for everyone.  The first is a back to

the

> pregnancy issue.  My wife is having headaches during this

pregnancy 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: Carolyn Lieberg <carolyn-lieberg@uiowa.edu>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:49:11 -0600

--------

My 18 year-old daugher is on an antibiotic that is, of course, upsetting

her intestines.  Yogurt has always been a help.  Are there any herbs that

help curb diarrhea?



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:44:45 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Slippery Elm is a good soother for diareah. You can buy acidphilus in

capsules

which would eliminate the dairy...it might upset her tummy further. DJ



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: dream@ilink.nis.za

Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 11:21:28 -0700

--------

well here is an africa cure..dunno where it came from..but my mom used

it with success for all of us



Add some sugar to Coca Cola and let all the gas out..then drink..it

might be the molasses in the drink..i am not sure..but it doesnt

interfere  with medication and settles the tummy



annelize

http://www.global.co.za/~jman/magic



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To: dream@ilink.nis.za, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 00:24:48 -0500

--------

If you want coca cola syrup,  go to the pharmacy and 

buy a small bottle.  It is a sweet concentrate sold at the pharmacy 

section.  



On  6 Sep 97 at 11:21 

dream@ilink.nis.za wrote: 



> well here is an africa cure..dunno where it came from..but my mom

> used it with success for all of us

> 

> Add some sugar to Coca Cola and let all the gas out..then drink..it

> might be the molasses in the drink..i am not sure..but it doesnt

> interfere  with medication and settles the tummy

> 

> annelize

> http://www.global.co.za/~jman/magic



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: silwit@suba.com (Ray Bayley)

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 01:51:07 -0500 (CDT)

--------

>My 18 year-old daugher is on an antibiotic that is, of course, upsetting

>her intestines.  Yogurt has always been a help.  Are there any herbs that

>help curb diarrhea?



In case you don't know, please do not feed her yogurt (or kefir or maybe

even tempeh, miso probably OK) while she is on the antibiotic--the

antibiotic may expend its power killing the microbes in the yogurt

(assuming the yogurt actually still has live ones by the time she eats it).

After the antibiotic you have 2-3 weeks to cram in friendly microbes

before a climax population is again reached in the gut--biochemical niches

filled by whatever microbes are around to grow.  The most documented way to

do that is lots of live etc etc Bifidus and Acidophilus.w

Ray



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:30:37 -0500

--------

Blackberry root (tea or capsules) is astringent or apple pectin (scrape a raw apple) or psillium seed are very useful for diarrhea. These last two absorb liquid to become a jell.  Slippery Elm bark (6 capsules every 4 hours until relief) is soothing to irritated tissue and  Ginger root ( sip tea a mouthfull at a time or stir 1 teaspoon powdered ginger in a spoonful of honey and swallow) is good for nausea or cramps if she has that accompaning the diarrhea.  



Be sure she drinks as much as she can tolerate to avoid becoming dehydrated and replace lost potassium. 



After course of anti-biotics is over, replace freindly flora with fermented foods, asidophilus milk, yogurt or  asidolphilus capsule (non dairy source). 

KB



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To: Carolyn Lieberg <carolyn-lieberg@uiowa.edu>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 00:13:31 -0500

--------

Blueberries quell diarrhea.  Even the frozen ones in the supermarket.

Kids love them especially when they are frozen cause they're like 

blueberry ice cream.



On  5 Sep 97 at 10:49 

Carolyn Lieberg wrote: 



> My 18 year-old daugher is on an antibiotic that is, of course,

> upsetting her intestines.  Yogurt has always been a help.  Are there

> any herbs that help curb diarrhea?



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: stomach upset

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:44:37 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-09 07:19:33 EDT, you write:



<< On  5 Sep 97 at 10:49 

Carolyn Lieberg wrote: 



> My 18 year-old daugher is on an antibiotic that is, of course,

> upsetting her intestines.  Yogurt has always been a help.  Are there

> any herbs that help curb diarrhea? >>



Yes, you might try Red Raspberry with is astringent properties.  Add some

mint to it for its heat dispelling, soothing and tasty properties.  This

combination makes a lovely tea that I'm sure your daughter will enjoy.  Since

Red Raspberry is a "woman's herb;" she will benefit from other properties in

it also.  Use 1 tsp. dried leaf per cup of boiling water, steep tightly

covered for 15 min., drink warm or cold.



Of course, the main thing is to replace the bacteria that were destroyed.  As

you mentioned, Yogurt is nice, but it is a milk product which can aggrevate

the diarrhea.

You might want to get the liquid acidophilus or capsules from the health food

store instead.  It might also be a good idea to stay away from fruits, fruit

juices, milk and milk products, etc., until the diarrhea clears up.  The

infant diarrhea diet is perfect for a few days; bananas, oatmeal, natural

jelly or jam (no sugar added).



I hope she feels better soon.



Traiteusse@aol.com



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To: Herb Binfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: New subscriber

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:22:35 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi people,



I'm a new subscriber to herbInfo. In such a short time I have

learned a lot.  

Does anyone have a list of herbs that a pregnant woman

should avoid during her pregnancy, and is there any herbs that prevent

miscarriages? 



Thank you,

Monique



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Herb's For Pain

From: "Beth" <AlphaBit@flash.net>

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 18:14:37 -0600

--------

Hi everyone,  :-)

I just joined the list today.  I mainly like to lurk and 

learn,  but I would like to ask a quick question.   Is 

there a good all around herb for pain?    I know 

this seem's to mainly be a "people" list,  but I have some 

dog's with bad arthritis and I would like to give them 

herb's for pain instead of aspirin.   My sister has used 

Devil's Claw with great success for the pain she get's from 

chronic bladder infection's.  Would this help my dog's 

arthritis also?  I guess what I'm trying to say is,  is 

there an aspirin substitute?  Thank you all for any advice, 

I truly am grateful.



Love & Hug's To You All,  Beth  :-)  

_____________________________________

Rottweiler H - Hoflin Publishing

http://www.hoflin.com              

____________________________________



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herb's For Pain

From: Mjmoongold@aol.com

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 11:17:27 -0400 (EDT)

--------

"I guess what I'm trying to say is,  is 

there an aspirin substitute?  Thank you all for any advice, 

I truly am grateful.



Love & Hug's To You All,  Beth  :-) "



I have made a vinegar tincture of wintergreen that I use as an aspirin

substitute. I have also heard from my teacher that skunk cabbage root is an

effective pain masker. So effective that it can be harmful to the user

because they might over do. Maybe one of these could be helpful to your dog;

I would recommend consulting with an animal herbalist first. You might want

to check Juliette de Bairacli Levy's books for other helpful information.



Good luck,



Mary Joan Deutschbein



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Hello, Should I fertilize/feed my Herbs

From: "William M. Groth" <groth@rice.edu>

Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 18:24:59

--------

My wife and I planted our herb garden (in July through Sept 1997) and we are 

wondering if we should put down fertilizer/plant food for the garden?  What

organic plant food would be good for herbs or would something like osmocoat

be just fine?



We live in Houston Texas, a western suberb actually which puts us in zone 9a,

The upper Texas Gulf Coast. We planted our herbs in a raised bed and the

latest

addition is Sorrel.  There is no natural shade during the day.



We have planted the following herbs:



	Mexican Mint Marigold (Tagetes)

	Common Sage

	Sweet Basil

	Flat leaf parsley (with small leaves)

	Italian parsley (with large leaves)

	Spike Lavender

	Two other types of lavender (Munstead and Lady)

	Salad burnet (leaves taste like cucumbers)

	Sweet Margoram 

	Curry Plants (??)

	Rosemary (a common variety was suppose to be prostrate)

	Chives (both regular and garlic)

	Patchouli plants

	Dill

	Lemon Verbena

	Lemon Thyme

	Sorrel

	Tansey

	Novocaine Plant (Spilanthes ??)

	Mother of Thyme

	Echinicia

	

Other herbs we have in pots:



	Bronze Fennel (We heard that this plant doesn't "play"well with others

	                so we replanted it in a large pot)

	Lemon Balm

	Bee Balm

	Spicy Globe Basil

	Siam Queen Basil

	Aztec Sweet Herb

	Ditney of Crete

	Mints (Ginger, Chocolate, Lime, Blue Balsam, Corsican, spearmint & water

	       mint)

	Aloe Vera

	Catnip	



If anyone has any suggestions fertilizing and other suggestions for care & 

feeding of these various herbs, any help would be much appreciated.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Hello, Should I fertilize/feed my Herbs

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 23:51:46 -0400

--------

Mints like compost.

William M. Groth wrote:



> My wife and I planted our herb garden (in July through Sept

> 1997) and we are

> wondering if we should put down fertilizer/plant food for

> the garden?  What

> organic plant food would be good for herbs or would

> something like osmocoat

> be just fine?

>

>  We live in Houston Texas, a western suberb actually which

> puts us in zone 9a,

> The upper Texas Gulf Coast. We planted our herbs in a raised

> bed and the

> latest

> We have planted the following herbs:

>

>         Mexican Mint Marigold (Tagetes)

>         Common Sage

>         Sweet Basil

>         Flat leaf parsley (with small leaves)

>         Italian parsley (with large leaves)

>         Spike Lavender

>         Two other types of lavender (Munstead and Lady)

>         Salad burnet (leaves taste like cucumbers)

>         Sweet Margoram

>         Curry Plants (??)

>         Rosemary (a common variety was suppose to be

> prostrate)

>         Chives (both regular and garlic)

>         Patchouli plants

>         Dill

>         Lemon Verbena

>         Lemon Thyme

>         Sorrel

>         Tansey

>         Novocaine Plant (Spilanthes ??)

>         Mother of Thyme

>         Echinicia

>

> Other herbs we have in pots:

>

>         Bronze Fennel (We heard that this plant doesn't

> "play"well with others

>                         so we replanted it in a large pot)

>         Lemon Balm

>         Bee Balm

>         Spicy Globe Basil

>         Siam Queen Basil

>         Aztec Sweet Herb

>         Ditney of Crete

>         Mints (Ginger, Chocolate, Lime, Blue Balsam,

> Corsican, spearmint & water

>                mint)

>         Aloe Vera

>         Catnip

>

> If anyone has any suggestions fertilizing and other

> suggestions for care &

> feeding of these various herbs, any help would be much

> appreciated.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: St. Johns Wort

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 19:16:50 +0000

--------

Hello!

I am a new member and wondered if anyone might give me some 

information on St. Johns Wort or can give me a URL for looking into 

what herbs might be good for me I suffer from arthritis and extreme 

fatigue and the pain is getting to the point that I can't stand it so 

I thought mabe some herbs could at least make my symptoms a little 

better.

I also need information on herbs that would benefit pets as my Chow 

has mange which we have been treating for over 8 months and I want to 

get him on a good diet and wondered if any herbs might help him too.

thanks for any information given.

Pamm Culp



pculp@gte.net



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St. Johns Wort

From: "Lori A. Campbell" <lcampbel@mail.coin.missouri.edu>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 01:22:25 -0500 (CDT)

--------



On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, pculp wrote:



> I also need information on herbs that would benefit pets as my Chow 

> has mange which we have been treating for over 8 months and I want to 

> get him on a good diet and wondered if any herbs might help him too.

> thanks for any information given.

> Pamm Culp

> 

You should try joining the wellpet-l list.  Great advice on natural and

holistic methods for all problems.



Lori



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St. Johns Wort

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 08:35:31 +0000

--------

Hello!

I am on the wellpet list they suggested that I join this list for 

information. Guess I am out of luck for help on this one I am on 

Cannine-l Wellpet and vetmed  and each list tells me I can get 

information from one of the other lists. Oh well I will keep looking 

I am sure this list will help me with other things that I need 

information on. Thanks again. 

Pamm

pculp@gte.net



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: headaches in pregnancy 

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 18:51:36 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

...My wife is having headaches during this pregnancy ....



I ADD:

Headaches from hormonal fluctuations are a very common complaint during pregnancy.  

You didn't say how far along her pregnancy is, but the following are safe even in the first trimester.



(1) Take a nap.  



(2) Constipation makes hormone headaches worse.  Be sure drink at least 2 liters of pure water daily and to eat enough veggies and other fiber filled foods.  An expectant lady should have at least 1, preferably 2, bowel movements a day.  Anything less is constipated.  This also helps prevent vericosities.



(3) Putting your feet in hot water for 20 min. often relieves even severe  headaches. Throw in a handful lavender flowers for even more relaxation. 



(4)  	Severe headaches can also be a sign of high blood pressure and early pre-eclampsia.

Make sure these have been ruled out by your doctor or midwife.   

KB



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: Should I fertilize/feed my Herbs

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 19:24:55 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

My wife and I planted our herb garden (in July through Sept 1997) and we are wondering if we should put down fertilizer/plant food for the garden?  

I ADD: 

I am assuming your herbs will maintain active growth in your growing region.  Here in middle TN where I live we can't fertilize this late in the growing season without risking lots of winter loss.



I have been a totally organic grower for the last 25 years so my advice is from that point of view.  The best fertilizer for herbs you listed and most of the general grown herbs is good compost with a cup of bonemeal and a cup of blood meal added to wheelbarrow full.  If your soil compacts hard (like clay), add 1/4 wheelbarrowful of peat moss to the mix.  Each spring I cover each of my raised beds with 2 inches of this and work it in a bit (without disturbing the roots of perennials)    



KB



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Herb's For Pain   H2 reply

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 97 04:37:05 UT

--------

You wrote looking for an aspirin substitute. I've been feeding my 9 year old 

dog (Butkus - 90 pound Golden Retriever lapdog) a generic DR Wallachs Pig 

Arthritis Rx. (Vit/Min ) +  Chrondrotin Sulfate contained in a beef gelatin 

product  that can be purchased at local health food stores (5 pounds for $35) 

and recently Kombucha mushrooms (which he loves). Goldens are notourouis  for 

arthritis (or so I'm told) so I've been doing it now for about a year planning 

on prevention.



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist

Free Catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@Holistic.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: Karen Peugh <bigred@essex1.com>

Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 07:52:49 -0700

--------

There is a herbal diet product out with 20mg of ephedrine in each pill. 

What is this "ephedrine" and is it a herb?  What does it do?  Has anyone

tried it to loose weight?  Your comments will be appreciated.

Karen, bigred@essex1.com



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: "John Novar" <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 19:48:27 -0400

--------

It is an herb - Ephedra, or Ma Huang (Ephedra sinica Stapf) it contains

alkaloids (ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, norephedrine and methylephedrine),

tannins, saponins, flavones, catechins and terpenol. It is used to raise

the mood of the individual who takes it.  20 mg is not very much for a diet

product.  We produce a product call herbal Phen-Fen which contains 130mg of

Ephedra and 720 mg of St. John's Wort.  for more info about the product you

can visit our website at http://www.kombuchapower.com or call me at

1-800-862-1353.



Best of Health



John Novar



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 04:34:02 GMT

--------

On Sun, 7 Sep 1997 19:48:27 -0400, "John Novar" <mail@kombuchapower.com> wrote

to <HerbInfo@bolis.com>:



>It is an herb - Ephedra, or Ma Huang (Ephedra sinica Stapf) it contains

>alkaloids (ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, norephedrine and methylephedrine),

>tannins, saponins, flavones, catechins and terpenol. It is used to raise

>the mood of the individual who takes it. 



You meant to say 'it is -mis-used to keep people awake/as the latest diet fad'.

Happy to correct your spelling errors there. Truly, the main thing for which to

use Ephedra in the western herbal tradition is asthma, and then only under

supervision of a professional.



In case you didn't know: ephedrine is the same as adrenaline; ie. it activates

your fight/flight responses. Too much of it is just as good for you, and just as

likely to elevate your mood, as too much stress. It -will- keep you awake, but

at quite a high cost to your metabolism. Why not stick to the olde vices, and

take a cuppa coffee?



The chinese use Ma Huang in TCM, but in formulas, not on it's own. And herbal

phen-fen is (to me) just one of the latest scams...



Cheers

Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 01:13:03 -0400

--------

It is good to see a herbalist approve of a cup of coffee for

asthma too.:



> Henriette Kress wrote

>

> >It is an herb - Ephedra, or Ma Huang (Ephedra sinica Stapf)

> it contains



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 97 22:00:17 UT

--------

Karen, asked about ...a herbal diet product out with 20mg of ephedrine in each 

pill.  What is this "ephedrine" and is it a herb?  What does it do?  Has 

anyone tried it to loose weight?  Your comments will be appreciated.

Herba Ephedrae is used in Chinese medicine as the herb Ma Huang. It release 

the exterior and disperses cold and aids the lungs. It is also used for asthma 

and wheezing. It is used as a diuretic and diaphoretic. It promotes urination 

and reduces edema - hence the "misuse"  to reduce weight. (the body's water 

weight is temporary reduced)  It is also "misused"  in sports and weight 

lifting because it raises the blood pressure and increases restlessness -  

hence one doesn't feel fatigued.  Chinese medicine rarely uses the herb alone 

and the amount is carefully considered to the individual  (rarely over 9 grams 

mixed with other herbs that often serve to regulate the harsh properties of Ma 

Huang)  and so has been safely used in TCM for thousands of years. The FDA  

has seriously  looked into the misrepresentation of many of the phyto-chemical 

companies and their claims as several deaths have been reported attributed to 

their products (but never to the bulk herb or to traditional Chinese 

formulas). 

The toxicity - after ingestion - of as little as 15 ml of a 1% solution may 

result in diaphoresis (sweating), temperature elevation (low grade fever), 

epigastric pain, nausea and vomiting. May cause cardiac arrhythmia. Increases 

the blood pressure and pulse rate.

Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holstic.com/listings/HappyHearbalist.html (under construction)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 00:55:49 -0400

--------

Ephedrine is a medicine extracted from ephedera which was used for asthma

but had severe side effects particularly in raising blood pressure.  The

whole herb ephedera (ma huang) has alkaloids that lower as well as those

that raise the blood pressure.  If you just extract the ephederine out of

the ephedera you don't get the buffering effect of the other

constituents.  It illustrates the fallacy of looking for one or two

"active constituents" in an herb.



Various forms of ephederine are used in OTC weight loss formulas.  NOT

recommended.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Sat, 20 Sep 97 22:00:17 UT "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

writes:

>Karen, asked about ...a herbal diet product out with 20mg of ephedrine 

>in each 

>pill.  What is this "ephedrine" and is it a herb?  What does it do?  

>Has 

>anyone tried it to loose weight?  Your comments will be appreciated.

>Herba Ephedrae is used in Chinese medicine as the herb Ma Huang. It 

>release 

>the exterior and disperses cold and aids the lungs. It is also used 

>for asthma 

>and wheezing. It is used as a diuretic and diaphoretic. It promotes 

>urination 

>and reduces edema - hence the "misuse"  to reduce weight. (the body's 

>water 

>weight is temporary reduced)  It is also "misused"  in sports and 

>weight 

>lifting because it raises the blood pressure and increases 

>restlessness -  

>hence one doesn't feel fatigued.  Chinese medicine rarely uses the 

>herb alone 

>and the amount is carefully considered to the individual  (rarely over 

>9 grams 

>mixed with other herbs that often serve to regulate the harsh 

>properties of Ma 

>Huang)  and so has been safely used in TCM for thousands of years. The 

>FDA  

>has seriously  looked into the misrepresentation of many of the 

>phyto-chemical 

>companies and their claims as several deaths have been reported 

>attributed to 

>their products (but never to the bulk herb or to traditional Chinese 

>formulas). 

>The toxicity - after ingestion - of as little as 15 ml of a 1% 

>solution may 

>result in diaphoresis (sweating), temperature elevation (low grade 

>fever), 

>epigastric pain, nausea and vomiting. May cause cardiac arrhythmia. 

>Increases 

>the blood pressure and pulse rate.

>Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

>Free catalog upon request

>HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

>www.holstic.com/listings/HappyHearbalist.html (under construction)

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Ephedrine

From: Redgato@aol.com

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 00:31:34 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-20 22:15:28 EDT, you write:



<<  Chinese medicine rarely uses the herb alone 

and the amount is carefully considered to the individual  (rarely over 9

grams 

mixed with other herbs that often serve to regulate the harsh properties of

Ma 

Huang)  and so has been safely used in TCM for thousands of years. >>



Ed,

Do you really mean "9 grams" here -- or 9 milligrams?  Just curious!  :)



Pat

Patricia C McMullen BSMT(ASCP)

Microbiologist



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Mange

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:10:21 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Mange

Horsetail, and rosemary are great for skin conditions. I am giving my dog MSM

which is a derivative of DMSO. The MSM is a form of organic sulphur. It is

great for itchy skin and thin coats of animals. DebbieJ



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:  MSM-and misc. 

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:05:28 -0500

--------

I understand that DMSO will make a dog blind.  I assume that MSM has

whatever element that was in DMSO removed so it is safe?  I have wanted

something for quite sometime  for my little dog whose coat is quite thin.  

I have been wondering if my Tea Tree Oil shampoo would help her.  

She does not have mange.  Just thin hair. On the subject of blind dogs-

My little dog appears to be getting cataracts  is there some herbs that can

slow this process?  Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky 



> Mange

> Horsetail, and rosemary are great for skin conditions. I am giving my dog

MSM

> which is a derivative of DMSO. The MSM is a form of organic sulphur. It

is

> great for itchy skin and thin coats of animals. DebbieJ



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:  MSM-and misc.

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 17:46:00 -0400

--------

My dog has itchy skin. After eliminating the possiblity of

fleas I wondered if the cause was food. I've been switching

food. Aloa vera healed the skin and raw areas that itched. He

totally healed by June .Now he is itchy in the ears again.

Aloa vera helps.p.n

Mary Russell wrote:



>  I understand that DMSO will make a dog blind.  I assume

> that MSM has

> whatever element that was in DMSO removed so it is safe?  I

> have wanted

> something for quite sometime  for my little dog whose coat

> is quite thin.

> I have been wondering if my Tea Tree Oil shampoo would help

> her.

> She does not have mange.  Just thin hair. On the subject of

> blind dogs-

> My little dog appears to be getting cataracts  is there some

> herbs that can

> slow this process?  Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

>                           tomrussell@mindless.com

>                           Glasgow Kentucky

>

> _ _ _                                      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

> _

> _

>

>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Tea and cuts

From: bancroft@UDel.Edu

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:00:18 +0000

--------

I'm new to the list - just subscribed a week ago - and already owe 

you guys thanks!  I read the post on using tea for bleeding on 

Friday, and on Saturday cut my own finger - really deep - with a 

cleaver (dumb, dumb, I know).  I grabbed a tea bag, ripped it open, 

and piled the tea on the cut.  Rinsed it off about 10 minutes later, 

and *no bleeding*!  It seems to have sped the healing too, though 

maybe that was the calendula I used.  



Thanks!

Barbara      

bancroft@udel.edu

Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

"What is man without beasts?  If all the beasts

were gone, man would die a great loneliness of

spirit.  For whatever happens to the beasts,

soon happens to man.  All things are connected"

-Chief Seattle in a letter to President

Franklin Pierce, 1854



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Tea and cuts

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:31:24 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Barbara Im gald that the tea remedy worked for you. Im new to the list

too and a feel the same way you do .  



Monique 



On Sun, 7 Sep 1997 bancroft@UDel.Edu wrote:



> I'm new to the list - just subscribed a week ago - and already owe 

> you guys thanks!  I read the post on using tea for bleeding on 

> Friday, and on Saturday cut my own finger - really deep - with a 

> cleaver (dumb, dumb, I know).  I grabbed a tea bag, ripped it open, 

> and piled the tea on the cut.  Rinsed it off about 10 minutes later, 

> and *no bleeding*!  It seems to have sped the healing too, though 

> maybe that was the calendula I used.  

> 

> Thanks!

> Barbara      

> bancroft@udel.edu

> Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Tea and cuts

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 14:29:47 -0500

--------

> On Sun, 7 Sep 1997 bancroft@UDel.Edu wrote:

> 

> > I'm new to the list - just subscribed a week ago - and already owe

> > you guys thanks!  I read the post on using tea for bleeding on

> > Friday, and on Saturday cut my own finger - really deep - with a

> > cleaver (dumb, dumb, I know).  I grabbed a tea bag, ripped it open,

> > and piled the tea on the cut.  Rinsed it off about 10 minutes later,

> > and *no bleeding*!  It seems to have sped the healing too, though

> > maybe that was the calendula I used.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Barbara

> > bancroft@udel.edu

> > Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org



Hi Barbara!



Glad it worked!  Heck of a mess to clean up tho huh?  I just grab the

teabag, moisten (not saturate) with hot water (it cools off fast) and

place it on the cut, if its in the right place sue the string to keep it

on.  They are also wonderful for boils!!!!!

My husband got a boil on his thigh and we placed teabags on it (this

however may be a  bit uncomfortable as it has to be HOT to help draw it

out)as soon as it cools, place another HOT one on it.  We kept it on by

wrapping an ace bandage on it.  By morning, gone!



Who'da thunk it?!?



BTW---   thanks for your site.  Visited it and being a dog lover with

the best friend in the whole world, love your page!



In light,



Choalayna

EnchanteD EncounterS

http://pages.prodigy.net/processor/index.html



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: MSM-and misc.

From: Jan Schmidt <jans@rnet.com>

Date: Sun, 07 Sep 97 18:00:53 PDT

--------

Ear mites will cause ear distress. Also our dog was having skin problems until we switched to a dog food recommended by the vet.

Jan S.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Where there is Life , There is Hope!

Where there is Dirt, There is Soap!

All things are Possible for those that Love the Lord!!!

Auntie Jan's Herbs & Botanicals  JANS@RNET.COM

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: MSM-and misc.

From: Jan Schmidt <jans@rnet.com>

Date: Sun, 07 Sep 97 18:54:31 PDT

--------

Eukanuba is the brand name, Sasha.

Have you tried bathing her with dandruff shampoo and a rinse of chamomile, calendula,lemon balm,horsetail,plantain or mint to soothe and ease ithching? Any combo would help,all are not needed.

Jan S.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Where there is Life , There is Hope!

Where there is Dirt, There is Soap!

All things are Possible for those that Love the Lord!!!

Auntie Jan's Herbs & Botanicals  JANS@RNET.COM

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Friend needs HRT (hormone replacement therapy) alternatives

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 22:33:05 -0400 (EDT)

--------

She want's natural substitute for meds that alleviate hot flashes, nausea,

sweating, insomnia, weakness, anxiety and *mental instability.* Any links?

hints?

thanks friends,

kai



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Friend needs HRT (hormone replacement therapy) alternatives

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 01:21:31 -0400

--------

KaiforChi@aol.com wrote:



here are some links Doc. Weil's database search

http://cgi.pathfinder.com/@@dpdvVgcA7vfG3aO5/drweil/0,1153,,00.html



http://cgi.pathfinder.com/@@dpdvVgcA7vfG3aO5/drweil/0,1153,,00.html



http://members.aol.com/dearest/index.html



> She want's natural substitute for meds that alleviate hot

> flashes, nausea,

> sweating, insomnia, weakness, anxiety and *mental

> instability.* Any links?

> hints?

> thanks friends,

> kai



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Glucosamine Sulfate

From: BLACKKAT <BLACKKAT@Dekalb.Net>

Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 23:39:05 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Does anyone have any information on Glucosamine Sulfate, specifically

regarding diabetics being able to take it safely? 



Sandi 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: Coffee, herbal remedy (was: HerbInfo: Ephedrine)

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:45:28 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-08 01:18:32 EDT, you write:



<< 

It is good to see a herbalist approve of a cup of coffee for

asthma too.:



> Henriette Kress wrote >>



I am strictly a tea drinker, but when I get wheezy, I make myself a hot,

strong cup of  New Orleans dark roasted, chicory, blended coffee.  I'm not

talking about taking this with any sign of infection in the lung and it would

depend on what other conditions are present in the body.  It should be drunk

within 1/2 hour of brewing, do not let it sit about or drink it after that.

Treated as a remedy and not overdone, it can act as a booster to some

medications used for asthma.  I wouldn't use it all day or every day, just a

cup here and there when really needed.



I would be interested in hearing from others on their use of coffee as an

herbal remedy.  (Besides the coffee enema, which has been pretty well

covered.)



Traiteusse@aol.com



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: Coffee, herbal remedy (was: HerbInfo: Ephedrine)

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:34:34 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

I would be interested in hearing from others on their use of coffee as an herbal remedy.  (Besides the coffee enema, which has been pretty well covered.)



I ADD:

I too, have used coffee for breathing problems.  Not mine - when I was a scout leader, one of the boys suffered from frequent asthma attacks.  My mother ( an R.N.) told me that in an emergency situation a good strong cup of coffee would replace a puff from an inhaler.  She said it is basically the same as the drug. theophalin (sp?).  You can sweeten it as much as you wish to help a child get it down, but it is important not to add milk as the protiens bind up the active ingredient in the coffee.



Anyway It worked when my boy scout had an attack at 2 a.m. on a campout.  We found his inhaler UNDER his tent when we broke camp later that week.  

KB



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: Coffee, herbal remedy (was: HerbInfo: Ephedrine)

From: brad neufeld <bradn@superiway.net>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:35:21 -0600 (MDT)

--------

At 08:34 PM 09/09/97 -0500, you wrote:

>YOU WROTE:

>I would be interested in hearing from others on their use of coffee as an

herbal remedy.  (Besides the coffee enema, which has been pretty well covered.)

>

I have given coffee to my daughter who has asthma, the wheezing goes away

pretty quickly.  My family doctor is also asthmatic and has on more than one

occasion had a cup of coffee before we played tennis.



Brad



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: Coffee, herbal remedy (was: HerbInfo: Ephedrine)

From: "S. Arora" <arora@jasper.uor.edu>

Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:55:58 -0700

--------

TRAITEUSSE@aol.com wrote:



> I would be interested in hearing from others on their use of coffee as

> an

> herbal remedy.  (Besides the coffee enema, which has been pretty well

> covered.)



I have severe asthma and coffee does absolutely nothing for me,

regardless of how bad the attack is:(  So far people on the list have

reported positive results; didn't want people to think this always

works..wish it did though..I'd much rather drink coffee than use my &*

inhaler.



--

Sandy, owned and operated by the L.A. rascals:

Hunny Bunny, Boo Boo, Missy, Pigpen, and Tasha (in spirit)

email: arora@uor.edu



All intelligent species in the universe own cats. Or *are* cats.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: Coffee, herbal remedy (was: HerbInfo: Ephedrine)

From: Joy Keeping <keepjoy@hal-pc.org>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:08:38 -0500

--------

Sandy,



I would say that cats own people not the other way around.



At least that has been my experience with most of my adult lifetime of

living with them.



Joy Keeping

S. Arora wrote:

> 

> TRAITEUSSE@aol.com wrote:

> 

> > I would be interested in hearing from others on their use of coffee as

> > an

> > herbal remedy.  (Besides the coffee enema, which has been pretty well

> > covered.)

> 

> I have severe asthma and coffee does absolutely nothing for me,

> regardless of how bad the attack is:(  So far people on the list have

> reported positive results; didn't want people to think this always

> works..wish it did though..I'd much rather drink coffee than use my &*

> inhaler.

> 

> --

> Sandy, owned and operated by the L.A. rascals:

> Hunny Bunny, Boo Boo, Missy, Pigpen, and Tasha (in spirit)

> email: arora@uor.edu

> 

> All intelligent species in the universe own cats. Or *are* cats.

> 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:21:57 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi,

I am new to the list and I don't know if you have talked about this recently,

but I am looking for  information on herbal estrogen replacement.  



Thanks in advance,

Sydney



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:39:12 -0400

--------

The body converts DHEA into whatever hormone it needs (ie 

estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and coriconsterone). 

In Both sexes, blood levels of DHEA peak at age 20.  After 

30 years old, the body only has 5% of the DHEA levels it 

had at 20 (sahelian, 1996).  For more information about 

this subject visit my web site and review "the latest on 

Pregenolone and DHEA"

Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	SSchuy2011@aol.com [SMTP:SSchuy2011@aol.com]

Sent:	Monday, September 08, 1997 8:22 AM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	Re: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement



Hi,

I am new to the list and I don't know if you have talked 

about this recently,

but I am looking for  information on herbal estrogen 

replacement.



Thanks in advance,

Sydney



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-08 14:12:45 EDT, you write:



<< 

The body converts DHEA into whatever hormone it needs (ie 

estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and coriconsterone). 

In Both sexes, blood levels of DHEA peak at age 20.  >>



I have heard so many conflicting things about DHEA - I actually bought some

and have been afraid to take it.  I would like to hear from anyone on the

list that has been using it.



Sydney



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 16:42:57 +0000

--------

I recall hearing something about this to but can't recall what it was 

now. I wonder if this could benifit women going through menopause.

Pamm

pculp@gte.net





==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:54:58 -0400

--------

Some herbs that can help are Agnus Castus, Dong Quai, 

Passion Flower

Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	pculp [SMTP:pculp@mail.gte.net]

Sent:	Monday, September 08, 1997 12:43 PM

To:	HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject:	Re: HerbInfo: Estrogen Replacement



I recall hearing something about this to but can't recall 

what it was

now. I wonder if this could benifit women going through 

menopause.

Pamm

pculp@gte.net



==========

To: "HERBINFO POSTINGS" <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: FRIEND NEEDS HRT

From: sjdevilliers@oldmutual.com (Sam J de Villiers)

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 97 09:53:29 PDT

--------

Hi,



Maybe you could could check out the PCO_NATURAL list or the PCO List.

They're mainly for women suffering from poly-cycstic ovarian syndrome, but

they have a lot of related hormone problems and may be able to suggest

something.



Their addresses for joining are;



PCO-NATURAL:	pconatural-request@lists.best.com

PCO:		pco-request@lists.best.com



with sub*scribe in the body of the message. (Without the asterisk!!!!)



If you want a couple of examples, let me know and I'll forward them on to

you....



Ciao

Sam(antha)



sjdevilliers@oldmutual.com

Cape Town, South Africa

*******************************************************

Disclaimer

Any opinions expressed in this E-Mail are my own

and are not indicative of Old Mutual in any way.

*******************************************************



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Friend needs HRT (hormone replacement therapy) al

From: "Dr. Craig" <dctkiro@netheaven.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:41:20 11:19

--------

Kai wrote,



> She want's natural substitute for meds that alleviate hot flashes, nausea,

> sweating, insomnia, weakness, anxiety and *mental instability.* Any links?

> hints?

> thanks friends,

> kai



Kai,



Have her try a good natural progesterone cream...it usually works to help all 

of the above symptoms.



I can recommend some if you wish. Email me at dctkiro@netheaven.com for details.



Craig



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Friend needs HRT (hormone replacement therapy) al

From: "Dr. Craig" <dctkiro@netheaven.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:41:20 11:19

--------

Kai wrote,



> She want's natural substitute for meds that alleviate hot flashes, nausea,

> sweating, insomnia, weakness, anxiety and *mental instability.* Any links?

> hints?

> thanks friends,

> kai



Kai,



Have her try a good natural progesterone cream...it usually works to help all 

of the above symptoms.



I can recommend some if you wish. Email me at dctkiro@netheaven.com for details.



Craig



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Friend needs HRT (hormone replacement therapy) al

From: MarilynRN1@aol.com

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:34:44 -0400 (EDT)

--------

How about evening primrose oil, black cohash, dong quai and royal jelly?  I

have heard these are good estrogen replacements. Dr. Susan Love recommends

some of these in her book on menopause.

marilyn



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: For someone awaiting Heart/Kidney transplant

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:48:51 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Any hints for herbal help? I just met this person in a cooking chat; he is

having to cook for his wife who is losing strength rapidly. He knows nothing

about cooking, but I also suggested some herbs might help. She needs low or

no fat/salt. *My* aol isn't letting me into any of my cooking chats, so I

thought I'd try the herbal route. Please reply here as I haven't yet gotten

his permission to get email from you directly.



thanks, friends,

kai



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Looking for herb list

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 06:03:45 +0000

--------

Would some one have a URL for a place that lists herbs and what they 

are used for? I use to have one bookmarked but lost it.

Thanks

Pamm

pculp@gte.net



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Looking for herb list

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:35:29 -0400

--------

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/comindx.html

http://www.egregore.com/herb/herbhome.htm

http://www.healthy.com/herbalists/herblinks.htm

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/



p.n.



> Would some one have a URL for a place that lists herbs and

> what they

> are used for? I use to have one bookmarked but lost it.

> Thanks

> Pamm

> pculp@gte.net



==========

To: HerbInfo <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Chinese Herbs

From: "The Meydrech's" <meydrech@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 23:37:22 -0700

--------

Hello Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist :-)



> There are great many Chinese herbs that are specific for 

> mothersmilk. Like; Pu Gong Ying (Dandelion) Mai Ya (Barley Sprout) 

> Bai Ji Li, Mu Tong, Chun Shan  Jia, Tong Cao and Wang Bu Liu Xing. 



Where can one find a list that would translate the chinese name

of an herb to english (ie. Pu gong ying = Dandelion)? Thank you!



claudia

-- 

mailto:meydrech@bellatlantic.net

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome

Meydrech Family Home & Herbal / Home Page

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome/healingherbs.html

How Herbs Found Us / 450+ Herbals, etc. / (973)697-8152



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Real FAT dog........

From: Jennifer Griffiths <arkoboy@tpgi.com.au>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:37 +1000 (EST)

--------

Hi everyone,

Would really appreciate your help, I bought a bitch (Rottweiler) some years

ago when she was 12 months old, she was terribly unhappy with me so I put

her in a family home (young kids etc that she just loooves).

Anyway the conditions were that I could breed from her at a later date.

I had not seen her for 12 months, and now that we are planning a breeding I

visited the family.  The dog is so huuuuge............real bad, real faaat.

I am to bring her home with me in a few weeks to get her back into

condition, she is due in season in about a two or three months.  Wondering

if anyone could help me out on how I could help this dog beyond the obvious

of a good nutritious healthy diet and regular exercise.  I will no doubt be

dealing witht he stress of coming into a knew environment as well.

You may ask is she happy the way she is, YOU BETCHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Cheers

Jenny Griffiths

Perth, Western Australia

arkoboy@tpgi.com.au

http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Rotts/index.html

*******************************

"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement, Nothing can be done

without hope !!!!! "

*******************************



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Real FAT dog........

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:38:41 -0700 (MST)

--------

Hi Jenny,

I have come up with an herbal formula for dogs that I call "Obesitease", it

contains Rosemary, Dandelion, Parsley, Chickweed and Cleavers.  We've had

good success in using it to shed those extra pounds along with (as you say)

"a good nutritious healthy diet and regular exercise".  Another option,

when you are ready to breed her is a formula that I call "Pregnancease" to

regulate hormone levels and improve the overall health of a breeding bitch

its ingredients are Red Raspberry Leaf, Alfalfa, Comfrey Root, Nettle and

Kelp.

Let me know if you'd like to discuss any of these herbal formulas in

greater detail.



At 07:57 PM 9/9/97 +1000, you wrote:

>Hi everyone,

>Would really appreciate your help, I bought a bitch (Rottweiler) some years

>ago when she was 12 months old, she was terribly unhappy with me so I put

>her in a family home (young kids etc that she just loooves).

>Anyway the conditions were that I could breed from her at a later date.

>I had not seen her for 12 months, and now that we are planning a breeding I

>visited the family.  The dog is so huuuuge............real bad, real faaat.

>I am to bring her home with me in a few weeks to get her back into

>condition, she is due in season in about a two or three months.  Wondering

>if anyone could help me out on how I could help this dog beyond the obvious

>of a good nutritious healthy diet and regular exercise.  I will no doubt be

>dealing witht he stress of coming into a knew environment as well.

>You may ask is she happy the way she is, YOU BETCHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>Cheers

>Jenny Griffiths

>Perth, Western Australia

>arkoboy@tpgi.com.au

>http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Rotts/index.html

>*******************************

>"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement, Nothing can be done

>without hope !!!!! "

>*******************************

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Real FAT dog........

From: Mmsh5@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:59:29 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Please give me more info on the Obesitese.  I have 2 female Shih Tzu that are

over weight and everything else we have tried dosen't work.  Thanks. Silvia  



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Real FAT dog........

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:06:23 -0700 (MST)

--------

Obesitease is an herbal formula that I mix as part of my veterinary herbal

line of products.  It comes in a liquid tincture form and can be added

directly to the food at a doseage of 2 - 4 drops of tincture per 10 lbs of

body weight.  The ingredients are: Rosemary, Dandelion Root, Parsley,

Chickweed and Cleavers.  These herbs combined together assist in the proper

assimilation of food and in disolving adipose tissue (fat).  The other

thing that I would suggest is a product called Sea Supreme which is a

suplement of sea vegetables and vitamins that provide proper nutritional

balance so that the dog doesn't "feel" that they need as much food.

The cost of the Obesitease is $11.75 for a 2 oz. bottle

The cost of the Sea Supreme is $6.25 for a 3 oz. Shaker Bottle (just shake

it onto the food)

Let me know if you'd like to try these products or if you'd like to receive

a complete catalog.

Thank you for your interest.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.



At 01:59 PM 9/16/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Please give me more info on the Obesitese.  I have 2 female Shih Tzu that are

>over weight and everything else we have tried dosen't work.  Thanks. Silvia  

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Natural Progesterone Cream

From: Janice Brown <brown@engrng.pitt.edu>

Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:44:54 -0400

--------

Where do you buy natural progesterone cream, other than thru the mail?  



jb



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Natural Progesterone Cream

From: Susipnr@aol.com

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-09 10:48:35 EDT, you write:



<< Where do you buy natural progesterone cream, other than thru the mail?  

>>

http://www.vitaminexpress.com/



==========

To: HerbInfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Gall bladder

From: Bryan  <Trapperjohn@mindspring.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:51:00 -0400

--------

Hi,

Is there any Herb that can keep the Gall bladder in good condition?



Thanks,

Bryan

Trapperjohn@mindspring.com



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Gall bladder

From: john novar <mail@kombuchapower.com>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:28:55 -0400

--------

Gall bladder problems can be help with Devil's Claw, 

Goldenseal, Milk Thistle, and Tumeric.

Best of Health

John Novar

http://www.kombuchapower.com

St John's Wort natures antidepressant

Herbal Phen-Fen lose weight naturally



-----Original Message-----

From:	Bryan [SMTP:Trapperjohn@mindspring.com]

Sent:	Tuesday, September 09, 1997 10:51 AM

To:	HerbInfo

Subject:	HerbInfo: Gall bladder



Hi,

Is there any Herb that can keep the Gall bladder in good 

condition?



Thanks,

Bryan

Trapperjohn@mindspring.com





==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Gall bladder

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:25:31 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Gall Bladder, Lecethin is really good for the gall bladder.  DebbieJ



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Gall bladder

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:10:20 GMT

--------

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:51:00 -0400, Bryan  <Trapperjohn@mindspring.com> wrote to

HerbInfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>:



>Hi,

>Is there any Herb that can keep the Gall bladder in good condition?



You mean, like no stones? Eat breakfast, every day. This is based on the

physiology of the gall bladder: all night it will make gall, and concentrate it

more and more. If you eat something first thing in the morning you flush all

that concentrate out. If you don't eat something first thing in the morning your

gall bladder will continue to concentrate the gall, slowly but surely building

up a stone or two. 



Cheers,

Henriette



--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Potency ratio

From: Carolyn Lieberg <carolyn-lieberg@uiowa.edu>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:20:15 -0600

--------

Thanks for all the ideas on fighting the effects (and healing the

aftereffects) of antibiotics.



Another question:  Is there a standard ratio for the potency or quantity of

something in its sublingual form versus the amount that goes through the

digestive tract?



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: HRT (hormone replacement therapy) 

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:41:40 -0500

--------



YOU WROTE:

She want's natural substitute for meds that alleviate hot flashes, nausea, sweating, insomnia, weakness, anxiety and *mental instability.* Any links? hints?

YOU ADDED:

Have her try a good natural progesterone cream...it usually works to help all 

of the above symptoms.



I ADD:

Natural hormone replacement is still hormone replacement with all the same risks and contraidications.  Some folks do tolerate it better than synthetic

.  

Most herbal formulas do not REPLACE hormones, rather they stimulate the body to produce it's own.  



Wild yam in it's natural form does not convert to progesterone in the human body - only in a laboratory.  

See Michael Moore's formula's for early and Late menopause an his web page.  In my experience their the best.  Licorice root and a few other herbs which seem to bind to the same receptors as the natural hormone do acually replace the hormone and have lots of side effects when taken at the doses needed to effective and long term.

KB



==========

To: herb-l <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Introduction

From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:14:49 -0400 (EDT)

--------



Hello listers



Yesterday I subscribed to this list.  And I hope to learn and share with you.



I'm a nutrition and natural hygiene consultant, a writer and vegetarian.  

Suzie, my Gernan Shepherd dog also is a vegetarian.



Regards



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HRT & Liver Disease

From: "Beth" <AlphaBit@flash.net>

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:41:23 -0600

--------

> I ADD:

> Natural hormone replacement is still hormone replacement with all the same risks and contraidications.  Some folks do tolerate it better than synthetic



Hi,  :-)

Thank you for adding this.  What is done for someone who 

has "unknown" liver disease?   The Dr's think it's 

autoimmune,  but they really don't know.  Thank goodness I 

don't need HRT.  I'm just curious.  



Hug's,  Beth  :-)



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: ASTHMA

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 07:42:18 -0400 (EDT)

--------

For starters.... you usually always need to get the colon to relax in

asthma.If the bowels are moving and not constricted then usually the

bronchials follow!

Lobelia used in small amounts will relax the bronc....especially if liquid is

used under the tongue.Blue vervain works well too. I like to apppoach the

asthma by preventing and working on the cause of the attack. Both my kids HAD

asthma with inhalers 3x a day. They are asthma free

now for 2 years! We cleansed the colon and worked on building the immune and

nervous system. We kept the inhalers on hand for an extra year. Magnesium is

a TUBE opener. I have a severe asthmatic friend who has been working hard for

3 years to get off the drugs completely..she has almost eliminated then all.

In her case this was a miracle. She was a heavy prednisone user along with

oral and inhaled meds.Being a nurse she knew how bad some of the things she

was taking were

for her. She is thrilled and feels the hard work with the herbs was worth it!

E-mail me personally for further info. herbs2you@aol.com  DebbieJ



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Postmenopause

From: Janice Brown <brown@engrng.pitt.edu>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:58:48 -0400

--------

I am 51 years old and what I guess would be considered postmenopause.    I

am having sweats and hot flashes on a regular basis.   I thought it was

from antidepressants I was taking and, later, some herbs I was taking.    I

stopped antidepressants months ago and herbs about a month ago and the

sweats/hot flashes are back (or should I say still here).     I started

back on estrogen and progesterone 5 days ago and have not seen any

improvement.   



I would like input from anyone having experienced this.  Does it take

awhile for the HRT to take effect for the sweating/hot flashes.   Also, has

anyone tried natural progesterone for this and had success?    (I wonder

why the HRT is not working on the sweating/hot flashes problem.   This

happened one time before when I took the HRT for a couple months.)  jb



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Postmenopause

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:28:55 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

I am 51 years old and what I guess would be considered postmenopause.    I am having sweats and hot flashes on a regular basis.  



I ADD:

Sounds like your hormones haven't given up the ghost yet.  Most of the complaints as we pass through menopause are from on again off again hormones.  First the estrogen is to high then it's too low, then the progesterone is gone, then it's back.   That's why folks who used allopathic HRT still have to have things adjusted and still have some flashes, etc.



A good practioner can custom blend a formulated tincture specific for your body.  Eat alot of soy products.  If you must self treat, see Michael Moore's home page for a early and late menopause formula.  Still best to consult as your constitution is individual and a generic formula

may not be 100% effective.

KB 

_



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Postmenopause

From: Laurie Borgman <lborgman@worldonline.nl>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:02:54 +0200 (MET DST)

--------

Hi jb,



I'm sorry to say it takes a month at least until the HRT is working. You

just have to be patient ;)



Laurie.



At 08:58 10-09-97 -0400, you wrote:

>I am 51 years old and what I guess would be considered postmenopause.    I

>am having sweats and hot flashes on a regular basis.   I thought it was

>from antidepressants I was taking and, later, some herbs I was taking.    I

>stopped antidepressants months ago and herbs about a month ago and the

>sweats/hot flashes are back (or should I say still here).     I started

>back on estrogen and progesterone 5 days ago and have not seen any

>improvement.   

>

>I would like input from anyone having experienced this.  Does it take

>awhile for the HRT to take effect for the sweating/hot flashes.   Also, has

>anyone tried natural progesterone for this and had success?    (I wonder

>why the HRT is not working on the sweating/hot flashes problem.   This

>happened one time before when I took the HRT for a couple months.)  jb

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: melatonin

From: "Mona Markham" <windwolf@classic.msn.com>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 97 14:08:59 UT

--------



	Hi all, I'm kinda new to the list, but I've been watching and reading some 

that were very interesting to me.  I work graveyards, and have for many years, 

and lately I've been waking up in the middle of the night (which is mid 

afternoon thereabouts for all you strange people who work when that big red 

hot ball is in the sky)  :)  Anyway, I tried melatonin from the store, a 

'natural' remedy, in 1 mg increments.  I've also tried Celestial Seasoning's 

chewable ones, in 3 mg tablets.  I seem to have better luck with the chewable 

ones, maybe because they work faster, but I can't find where to get any more 

of them.  Does anyone have any other suggestions of either where I could look, 

or possibly something else I could try also ??  It's just aggravating that 

now, after many years of nights, that I'm starting  to have a problem...Thank 

you for any advice 



Mo



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To: Mona Markham <windwolf@classic.msn.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: melatonin

From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:43:17 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Have you tried to contact the company?



Have you tried  the following to relax?



passion flower

valerian

oat

lettuce

vitex



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Mona Markham wrote:



> 

> 

> 	Hi all, I'm kinda new to the list, but I've been watching and reading some 

> that were very interesting to me.  I work graveyards, and have for many years, 

> and lately I've been waking up in the middle of the night (which is mid 

> afternoon thereabouts for all you strange people who work when that big red 

> hot ball is in the sky)  :)  Anyway, I tried melatonin from the store, a 

> 'natural' remedy, in 1 mg increments.  I've also tried Celestial Seasoning's 

> chewable ones, in 3 mg tablets.  I seem to have better luck with the chewable 

> ones, maybe because they work faster, but I can't find where to get any more 

> of them.  Does anyone have any other suggestions of either where I could look, 

> or possibly something else I could try also ??  It's just aggravating that 

> now, after many years of nights, that I'm starting  to have a problem...Thank 

> you for any advice 

> 

> Mo

> 

> 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: melatonin

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 06:16:18 +0000

--------

I have tried a valerian passion flower pill they sell at the local 

drug store they work well for sleeping I have just ran out and I 

can't think of the brand name but I found the combination together 

works much better then either one does seperatly and I think this 

pill is much better then melatonin.

Pamm

pculp@gte.net



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Epazote advice?

From: Laurae Lyster-Mensh <lyster@mnsinc.com>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:18:29 -0400 (EDT)

--------



I purchased a small Epazote plant at a fair and it has THRIVED.  Does 

anyone here have advice on harvest, storage, usage?    TIA!



Laurae Lyster-Mensh   -------------------  lyster@mnsinc.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Epazote advice?

From: "Paula F. Gillingham Bender" <paula@lava.net>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 05:58:02 -1000

--------

Aloha!

Epazote is an herb used in Mexican cooking and I understand helps the body

tolerate beans. For a plant that can grow out of a crack in a sidewalk, it

seems to be cranky potted. I'd plant it outside and pretend it is a weed to

assure its happiness. Don't know if it is the leaves or stems or roots that

are harvested; I'll leave that to one of our many experts here at herbinfo.

paula @:)



At 10:18 AM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote:

>

>I purchased a small Epazote plant at a fair and it has THRIVED.  Does 

>anyone here have advice on harvest, storage, usage?    TIA!

>

>Laurae Lyster-Mensh   -------------------  lyster@mnsinc.com

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Paula Gillingham Bender    Reporter, Pacific Business News

863 Halekauwila St.                 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

paula@lava.net     Phone:(808)596-2021   Fax:(808)591-2321

find my stories at: http://www.amcity.com/pacific/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of

paper until drops of blood form on your forehead."

                        -- Gene Fowler (1890-1960)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Epazote advice?

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:57:28 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

I purchased a small Epazote plant at a fair and it has THRIVED.  Does 

anyone here have advice on harvest, storage, usage?    

YOU ADDED:

Epazote is an herb used in Mexican cooking and I understand helps the body

tolerate beans. For a plant that can grow out of a crack in a sidewalk, it seems to be cranky potted. I'd plant it outside and pretend it is a weed to assure its happiness. Don't know if it is the leaves or stems or roots that are harvested; I'll leave that to one of our many experts here at herbinfo.  



I ADD:

Epazote does not tolerate transplanting or root disturbance well.  If it springs from seed in a crack it is happy and tolerates hot sun.  It likes moisture so being in a crack probably acts as a mulch to keep it happy.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Herbs for dog hip injury?

From: sunnyheart@juno.com

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:00:21 -0700

--------

Hi, I'm new to the list. My name is Sunnie.

I'm looking for info on herbs that would be beneficial

to a pregnant dog (border collie/heeler--about 25 lbs)

who was hit by a car about a week ago.   The pups are

still fine but her hip is dislocated and there's a small

fracture according the x-ray.   We can't afford surgery ($1000+~!)

The vet says she will heal up fine if she stays still (which she's

been doing....because she is also acting extremely depressed!)

I'm trying to find out what to give her to help speed up the healing

process and keep her healthy.  Pups are due in about 2-3 weeks.



Thanks...........Sunnie ( SunnyHeart@juno.com )



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herbs for dog hip injury?

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:18:06 -0400

--------

When my wolf dog need surgery to be kept still for six weeks

while in a cast the vet said you will never keep that

wild animal still enough for two days to heal let alone six

weeks. I kept him still by buying big boxes of bones and let

him munch on them. It worked better than sedatives for keeping

him still. The cast stayed on and he lost alittle weight in

that time too because I made sure they weren't fatty. The vet

was amazed bones worked better than sedatives.pn

:sunnyheart@juno.com wrote



> Hi, I'm new to the list. My name is Sunnie.

> I'm looking for info on herbs that would be beneficial

> to a pregnant dog (border collie/heeler--about 25 lbs)

> who was hit by a car about a week ago.

> _

>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herbs for dog hip injury?

From: Sharon M <starshar@worldaxes.com>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:49:58 -0400

--------

P.Nighswander wrote:

> 

> When my wolf dog need surgery to be kept still for six weeks

> while in a cast the vet said you will never keep that

> wild animal still enough for two days to heal let alone six

> weeks. I kept him still by buying big boxes of bones and let

> him munch on them. It worked better than sedatives for keeping

> him still. The cast stayed on and he lost alittle weight in

> that time too because I made sure they weren't fatty. The vet

> was amazed bones worked better than sedatives.pn

> :sunnyheart@juno.com wrote

> 

> > Hi, I'm new to the list. My name is Sunnie.

> > I'm looking for info on herbs that would be beneficial

> > to a pregnant dog (border collie/heeler--about 25 lbs)

> > who was hit by a car about a week ago.

> > _



Hi Sunnie & everyone



I'd  like to "second the motion" on the bones, not only to keep her

quiet but according to the old adage of "like cures like", the nutrition

from the bone will help heal her broken bone faster. 

Having said that I wish you all the luck in the world because I too have

a female border (neutered), 30 lbs, and she's "hell on wheels"! They've

got to be the most non-stop breed in the universe! I buy her marrow, or

soup, bones as they don't splinter like the others. She loves them raw,

and they do keep her quietly occupied for awhile.

I will add that comfrey, known also as boneset, has been used since

ancient times for speedy bone healing. Externally, with the mashed

leaves held to the site and internally as teas or in capsules. However,

I make a strong caveat on the internal treatment as there has been

questions raised as to it's safety. I would not do this without checking

with a very knowledgeable herbalist. In fact, since she's pregnant I

wouldn't even chance it!



Best of success



Sharon/starshar



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Ichat Pager

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:04:09 +0000

--------

I was wondering if anyone has the Ichat Pager I downloaded it but 

can't find anyone who has it so I thought I would ask the list sorry 

to post a non herbinfo question.

pamm

pculp@gte.net



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Newbie and Preggie question

From: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:07:25 -0500

--------

Hi all, I'm a newbie to this list from the wellpet list.  My dh and I are

trying to get pregnant again, albeit not trying terribly hard, and I was

wondering what herbs would be helpful if any before, during and after the

pregnancy?  Also, last time, my milk left of it's own accord before I was

done with it (about 4 months)...any ideas on getting it to stay around?  I

*did* go out of town a bit without the baby and this time we are more

likely to stay home more.  I pumped and nursed and rented a pump-o-matic

and nothing seemed to help.



Priscilla

Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net



Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline   

Dog Obedience Training

Iowa, USA



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Newbie and Preggie question

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:26:42 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Red raspberry is great for toning the female organs before pregnancy and

during as well.If you have trouble with the milk try blessed thistle next

time works great for richer and abundant milk. Debbie J



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: More about menopause

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:23:18 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Kathryn wrote: "...see Michael Moore's home page for a early and late

menopause formula."

Do you have the url for his page? The only Michael Moore I know is the one

who did TV Nation and wrote Downsize This!--and I dearly love him,

(www.randomhouse.com/downsizethis/index.html)--but I don't think he's the

menopause guy!

thanks, kai



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: melatonin<REPLY>

From: S Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:02:06 -0700 (PDT)

--------

Hi Mona and HerbInfo List;



I too, am a "night warrior" so to speak.



Also use melatonin on an irregular basis.



Try the sublingual variety,  2.5 mg in strength.

Quick and dirty is to double up on the dosage,

if I need to get to sleep fast and only have a few hours

of time available.  Not recommended as a steady diet.

Not everyone can handle it.



Never had a problem finding it anywhere.

Even available in local traditional pharmacies in my area.



HTH



Sam

HerbInfo Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: MM web address, was Re: HerbInfo: More about menopause

From: Henriette Kress <hek@hetta.pp.fi>

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:05:24 -0700

--------

KaiforChi@aol.com wrote:

> Kathryn wrote: 

>>"...see Michael Moore's home page for a early and late menopause formula."

>

> Do you have the url for his page? 



http://chili.rt66.com/hrbmoore/HOMPAGE



This site is mirrored in full in my FTP space: 

ftp sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/SWSBM/



(If you haven't seen his site yet, you're in for a treat!)



Henriette

hek@hetta.pp.fi

USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK!



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Special Announcement-Informal Chat List Now On-line

From: S Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT)

--------

Hi HerbInfo Folks,



Several weeks ago, I asked if you people would be interested in 

an informal, "chat" style list.  A place to talk of things other 

than herbs, if you cared to do so.



Well, the majority of responses have indicated a desire for such 

an informal list and I am pleased to annouce that this new list 

is on-line and open for some light-hearted herbal gossip.



Honestly, not everyone was interested in an informal list,

so I am making a request that serious herbal discussion

should stay on the regular HerbInfo List.



Also, with the addition of the informal list, some format changes

are in order.  Most notably, no more Wanted/Buy/Sell ads on the

regular HerbInfo.  There never was that much, so it should not

be a major problem.  No more commercial posts on HerbInfo.

You might want to request the information file for the HerbInfo

Family of lists, for a more complete discussion.



You may do so by sending an e-mail to;



  majordomo@bolis.com



say  "info herbinfo"  (no quotes) in the body of your message



All of the classified ads and commercial things have been moved over

to the new, informal list.  Business owners should really get the

information file and have a look.



Not much in the way of policy and guidelines here.  Don't flame,

don't curse or use profanity.  Don't make outrageous medical claims

or promise to make the list members millionaires.  That is, unless,

you can offer proof and I'll be the first in line. ;) <GRIN>



The new list's name is HerbInfo-Chat.  It comes in the regular

version as well as a digest.



You can join HerbInfo-Chat by sending an e-mail to:



     herbinfo-chat-request@bolis.com



say  "zubscribe"  (no quotes, change the "z" to an "s") 





For the Digest version of HerbInfo-Chat, send an e-mail to:



     herbinfo-chat-digest-request@bolis.com



say  "zubscribe"  (no quotes, change the "z" to an "s")



If you don't change the word, zubscribe--then your request

goes into the round file and nothing happens.



Have a good day.

and

Happy Herbaling.



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo/Chat Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



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To: HerbInfo <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Hawaii-Paula

From: "The Meydrech's" <meydrech@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:47:43 -0700

--------

Hi, Paula



>Paula Gillingham Bender    Reporter, Pacific Business News

>863 Halekauwila St.                 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

>paula@lava.net     Phone:(808)596-2021   Fax:(808)591-2321

>    find my stories at: http://www.amcity.com/pacific/



I am in NJ, and this time two weeks from now will be in Hawaii

celebrating at a convention for Nature's Sunshine Products. 

We'll be at "Hilton Hawaiian Village" - I have never been in

Hawaii before, am I in for a treat?  Heard it is pretty busy

near Honolulu - what would be the best route "out of town" to

enjoy a bit of nature?



claudia :-)

-- 

mailto:meydrech@bellatlantic.net

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome

Meydrech Family Home & Herbal / Home Page

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome/healingherbs.html

How Herbs Found Us / 450+ Herbals, etc. / (973)697-8152



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Hawaii-Paula

From: gawain <gawain1@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:26:33 -0500

--------

At 08:28 PM 9/12/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Claudia....want to meet up in Hawaii?? I'll be there at Nature's Sunshine

>convention too!! Debbie J             herbs2you@aol.com



Gawain wonders if he can start working for Nature's Sunshine before the

convention in Hawaii? (Wondering what other type of sunshine there is....

ahhh... no, that's moonshine *grin*)



Have fun... Maui is earth's heart chakra IMHO!



Gawain

http://www.inlink.com/~gawain



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Hawaii-Paula

From: Drema Bagneschi <drema@alaska.net>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:29:49 -0800

--------

Hi Claudia,



Have fun at convention in Hawaii!  I'll be in Salt Lake City, UT next

week for the Shaperite Convention!  Fun! Fun! Fun! It will be quite a

change in temperature from our seasonal temp. here in Alaska.  



Blessings!

Drema

drema@alaska.net



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Hawaii-Paula

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:28:55 -0400 (EDT)

--------

OK what do you mean by the earth's heart chakra?? I know what chakra means.

ARE YOU HAWAIIAN or what? I'm headed to Maui on Fri 6am for 5 days.

Debbie J





==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Hawaii-Paula

From: gawain <gawain1@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:23:28 -0500

--------

Hi Debbie J,



>OK what do you mean by the earth's heart chakra?? I know what chakra means.



It is my opinion that Mother Earth is a living sentient being and has power

centers just like us called chakras.  There are numerous beliefs systems

that identify maui as the location of Her heart chakra, projected to the

surface, or skin.



>ARE YOU HAWAIIAN or what? I'm headed to Maui on Fri 6am for 5 days.



No... I'm adopted... I think I'm Dutch but I feel more Celtic and I have

three different colors of hair on my body.  Guess you could say I'm a mutt,

or Heinz 57 variety.  I'm presently living in St. Louis, and I forget this

is a herb list.  All my other lists are of a "new age" philosophy with

emphasis on spirituality and so I applolgize for breaching topic protocol

here.  (I seem to be doing this alot lately *hahaha*)



Have a wonderful time in Maui, Debbie J!!!!!!!  *warm smile*



Love and Light,



Gawain

http://www.inlink.com/~gawain



POST:   email herbinfo@bolis.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re[2]: HerbInfo: melatonin

From: dstevens@mgm.com

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:15:15 -0700

--------

cc:Mail note part

--------

Mo,

If you have access to bulk herbs, you might try a sleep tea recipe 

found in one of Michael Tiernan's (spelling?) books.  I'm at work 

right now, but I'll try to send you the book title from home this 

weekend.  He also lists sellers of bulk herbs.  I've used the tea with 

great success, and my boyfriend's brother is now using it successfully 

when nothing else worked.  It tastes terrible, but it doesn't take 

much.  The recipe includes passion flower and valerian.  



It may be that you now need only to break the cycle of waking.  If 

there doesn't seem to be anything new with you physically or 

emotionally, check the environment to see if anything specific is 

causing you to wake up--a new routine by neighbors, say.  



Good luck!



Denise



______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: melatonin

Author:  HerbInfo@bolis.com at Internet

Date:    9/12/1997 6:43 PM



Have you tried to contact the company?



Have you tried  the following to relax?



passion flower

valerian

oat

lettuce

vitex



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Mona Markham wrote:



> 

> 

>       Hi all, I'm kinda new to the list, but I've been watching and reading 

some 

> that were very interesting to me.  I work graveyards, and have for many years,



> and lately I've been waking up in the middle of the night (which is mid 

> afternoon thereabouts for all you strange people who work when that big red 

> hot ball is in the sky)  :)  Anyway, I tried melatonin from the store, a 

> 'natural' remedy, in 1 mg increments.  I've also tried Celestial Seasoning's 

> chewable ones, in 3 mg tablets.  I seem to have better luck with the chewable 

> ones, maybe because they work faster, but I can't find where to get any more 

> of them.  Does anyone have any other suggestions of either where I could look,



> or possibly something else I could try also ??  It's just aggravating that 

> now, after many years of nights, that I'm starting  to have a problem...Thank 

> you for any advice 

> 

> Mo

> 



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Green tea extract

From: ray@sirius.com

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 00:17:36 -0700

--------

Hi, all--



Is green tea extract just an antioxidant or does it also have

anti-inflammatory qualities?



And, where can we get a caffeine free green tea extract?



Thanks very much.



Katherine



Katherine Williams         ray@sirius.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"The first step is to know the difference

between a living body and a dead body."



==========

To: "Herbinfo" <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: minerals

From: "Marianne Lazar" <jedihands@wwisp.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 08:32:19 -0400

--------

Hello,



I have a short story and a question.  My mother decided a few months ago to

get healthy!  Great, except she is taking everything she can get her hands

on.  I have not had a chance to evaluate what she is taking (which I am

going to do...didn't know that she was doing all of these herbs, vitamins

and minerals) until she called and asked me a question that I am now posing

to you.  



She has complained of getting up in the morning and when her feet hit the

floor they are verrrry sore on the bottoms.  She can hardly walk.  She and

I want to know if anyone thinks it may be all the minerals she is

consuming?  Has anyone else experienced or heard of this?  She stopped them

2 days ago and said they are better.  That tell me she had too much,

probably of everything.  I will do some muscle testing on her next week. 

What do you think?



TIA 

Marianne Lazar

Birmingham, Alabama  USA.

jedihands@wwisp.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: minerals

From: Wheat Carr <wheat@craftwolf.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 19:03:11 -0700

--------

Pain the bottoms of her feet can be caused by fluid retension

Did she also mention any puffiness? This by the way is one 

of the signs of possible congestive heart failure and if it 

persists she should follow up carefully.



-- 

WanderingWolf@craftwolf.com      http://www.craftwolf.com

Savage Mill Box 2088 - Foundry St - Savage MD 20763-2088



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Hawaii Nature's Sunshine Convention

From: "Paula F. Gillingham Bender" <paula@lava.net>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:14:02 -1000

--------

Aloha!

This is primarily for Sharon and Debbie, and aloha to Gawain, too, who spoke up.



The Hilton Hawaiian Village is in Waikiki, a beautifully designed resort

that has its own beach front, swimming pools, restaurants and meeting halls.

Because you are coming to Oahu, "The Gathering Place," there are some things

nearby I would recommend doing: hike up the Diamond Head trail for a

breathtaking, birdseye view of the Island. From that vantage point it is

actually possible to make out the reefs in the blue-blue-blue ocean. A lot

of surfers and windsurfers like to ride the waves at the base of Diamond

Head, they are fun to watch, too.



Will you be renting a car? If so take off for the North Shore, stop at Kua

Aina for a yummy burger (I realize many on this list might abstain from

meat, so, sorry) and at Matsumoto's for a refreshing shave ice, WITH azuki

beans! Keep driving until you get to Waimea Bay, and turn in to park in the

lot and go for a swim. Opposite the bay is Waimea Falls Park, I understand

some fun hiking opportunities are there.



I would like to say that all is not paradise in Hawaii. Travel lightly, use

a disposable camera, don't leave anything in the car or sitting on the beach

without you being right there. It would be nice if we could all just strip

down to our swimming suits and grab our goggles and head for the water, but

even I, a person who has lived here since 1981, would not do that. I always

have my car key latched onto my swim suit, and an eye on my sand chair where

not much more than a magazine, a water bottle and some 30 SPF sunscreen sits.



Maybe that's my New Jersey upbringing? Always looking over my shoulder. 



Mahalo means thank you; aloha means hello and good bye; say Waikiki as

though it were Why-key-key; the Pali Highway is pronounced Polly and the

Like-Like Highway is pronounced Lee-kay-Lee-kay.



Don't worry about a thing; be yourselves and be sure to take advantage of

all the Hilton Hawaiian Village has to offer; I write a lot of stories about

it; many new projects coming up for the location including a new lagoon. 



Aloha!

paula @:)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Paula Gillingham Bender    Reporter, Pacific Business News

863 Halekauwila St.                 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

paula@lava.net     Phone:(808)596-2021   Fax:(808)591-2321

find my stories at: http://www.amcity.com/pacific/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of

paper until drops of blood form on your forehead."

                        -- Gene Fowler (1890-1960)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Real Fat Dog (Gamba)- reply

From: Jennifer Griffiths <arkoboy@tpgi.com.au>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:10:14 +1000 (EST)

--------

Just thought I would give everyone an update on the real fat dog ........



Well I picked up Gamba yesturday to take her for a good check up with the

vets, well even my Vet was amazed at the weight.  "disgusting" is what she

said....we weighed her in at 56.5 kilos, I think that works out to be around

120 pounds !!!! 



Anyway had a trial stay last night, no worries, my other dogs are working it

out, she is just so dominant, but not phased at all at being back with me

after 2 years.  



Gave her the diet that I feed the other dogs, she picked and prodded and ate

about half of it. They have literally fed her continuously, there was not a

cupboard, draw and the fridge of course that i could go to with out her

thinking i was going to give her food.  As for when we ate dinner, well

there was not a time when we raised each mouthful to go into our mouths that

she didn't think it was hers !!  So as for when her bowl was put down, you

can imagine, i think they used to just leave the bowl there for as long as

she wanted and would just pick at her hearts content, so we have a job to

get rid of some pretty bad habits. 



Anyway shall bring her back with me probably next friday for the long haul

of rehabilitation, wish poor Gamba good luck. She needs to loose 11 to 16

kilos, I think I shall aim for the 11 kilos, does not seem so bad.



Cheers

11 kilos = 11 kilos to go !!!

Jenny Griffiths

Perth, Western Australia

arkoboy@tpgi.com.au

http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Rotts/index.html

*******************************

"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement, Nothing can be done

without hope !!!!! "

*******************************



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Paula/N.Sunshine

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:37:06 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Paula, 

Well we are leaving for Maui on Fri am. Any local advice for that island??

Thanks for all your tips! That was so nice of you! DebbieJ...not looking

forward to the time change! Does anyone know how to use the melatonin for the

jet lag.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Paula/N.Sunshine

From: "Paula F. Gillingham Bender" <paula@lava.net>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:29:36 -1000

--------

Aloha Debbie!

Maui is no ka oi, which means the best! My husband and I went once for a

night at Kapalua Bay Hotel and Villas and went to a place where the

snorkeling is incredible! Maui is quite beautiful and the most popular

Island these days.



It is tough to do it all. Lahaina is party central; the Waikiki of Maui.

Kapalua seems to be where all the luxury resorts are; the landscape is

beautiful. Along the shore below Lahaina are some fun beach spots. And on

its north shore, a place called Hookipa (ho-o-key-pa) where the windsurfing

is considered the best in the world. The road to Hana is a swirling,

sometimes dangerous endeavor; sometimes I think maybe not really worth it,

except for the scenery; but no really good places to eat or stop at. Go up

to Haleakala, the dormant volcano crater with the Hawaiian name that means

"House of the Sun" Hale=house, akala=sun. I understand you can go up in a

van and ride down on a mountain cruiser; not exactly the safest thing to do,

more for the adventure types. Eat at Roy's Cantina, near Kapalua.



That's about all I know about Maui; I've only been there once or so.



Have fun!

paula @:)



At 09:37 PM 9/13/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Paula, 

>Well we are leaving for Maui on Fri am. Any local advice for that island??

>Thanks for all your tips! That was so nice of you! DebbieJ...not looking

>forward to the time change! Does anyone know how to use the melatonin for the

>jet lag.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Paula Gillingham Bender    Reporter, Pacific Business News

863 Halekauwila St.                 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

paula@lava.net     Phone:(808)596-2021   Fax:(808)591-2321

find my stories at: http://www.amcity.com/pacific/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of

paper until drops of blood form on your forehead."

                        -- Gene Fowler (1890-1960)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Paula/N.Sunshine

From: Srcl354@aol.com

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:44:47 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi,

Maybe Melatonin in spray form might be your easiest answer.  Just spray about

15 minutes before you go to sleep (your regular time of course).  It works

very fast, in minutes.  If you have not done so yet,you may order "melatonin"

in the spray form from 1-800-582-KARE and get a 10% discount.

Give this number 7189417652.  Enjoy your trip, wish I could be there.

Doug



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Hawaii & itchy feet

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 06:26:22 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Wow, the HI posts bring fond memories of that beautiful place. I stayed in

Haleiwa (sp?), and did have shave ice, but not w/azuki--how does that work? I

agree about *taking care,* i.e., no valuables...unscrupulous folks take

advantage of tourists--they know how to recognize a rental car, e.g. (just

like all the rest of the US, sadly).



On to an herbal question: my Mom gets really itchy feet. She is a bit of a

vitamin (but not herbal) freak, but also takes heart meds. She is afraid to

add to the mix, and has been diagnosed w/fibromyalgia. Any hints for topical

treatments for the itchiness?



Must be leaving some topic out I meant to address, but I am sleepy now.

Thanks for being there!!!

kai



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To: HerbInfo <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re:Hawaii Nature's Sunshine Convention

From: "The Meydrech's" <meydrech@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:40:14 -0700

--------

Hi Paula



It was I, Claudia, who asked about Hawaii & Hilton Hawaiian

Village - but that's okay, some days I can't even remember

my name ;-)  



Thank you so much for the beautiful description and all the

sites to see.  This will be very helpful.  I don't know if

we will rent a car, but plan on arranging a day or two of

site seeing.  This info will be helpful..just got some snorkel

equipment from friends last night.  We are really looking

forward to this time away.  



Where in New Jersey are you from, Paula?  I am in West Milford,

the northernmost part of the state.



Gawain, you can visit my web site to see what kind of

"sunshine" Nature's Sunshine is, if you wish :-)



Aloha!



claudia

-- 

mailto:meydrech@bellatlantic.net

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome

Meydrech Family Home & Herbal / Home Page

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/meydrechhome/healingherbs.html

How Herbs Found Us / 450+ Herbals, etc. / (973)697-8152



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Nature's Sunshine Convention

From: S Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:31:52 -0700 (PDT)

--------

Hello HerbInfo Folks,



Now that the thread of the NS Convention has wound down,

I would appreciate that it stay down.



Once the initial contact was made, then the rest of the

conversation should have been by private e-mail, between

the interested parties.  Not sure how the rest of the

list felt about "listening in" to your conversation,

but it should have been moved off list.



A suggestion if I may.  I just spent the last week or so,

bringing an informal list on line.  It was meant to

accomodate conversations over the "back fence", so to speak.

Other than no cursing, profanity or "out and out" flaming,

you will not find much in the way of rules and regulations.



The name of the new list is HerbInfo-Chat.  Why not sign on

and chat to your heart's content?  Talk about herbs if you

want to or something else.  It's OK, it's your choice.



And for those of you with herbal products to sell, join up

and post your sales advertisements.  Just be reasonable in

what you say regarding your wares.



Sign on instructions will be found at the bottom of this

message--just look for the word Chat.



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo/Chat Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: itchy feet

From: bancroft@UDel.Edu

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:09:25 +0000

--------

I keep a mixture in a spray bottle for itches, burns, etc. that works 

wonders:  2 parts aloe gel, 1 part tea tree oil, 1 part vitamin e 

oil, and a few drops of lavander.  During the summer it's gone almost 

as fast as I can make it.

Barbara      

bancroft@udel.edu

Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

We are shaped and fashioned by what we love. Goethe



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: itchy feet

From: Joy Keeping <keepjoy@hal-pc.org>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:55:54 -0500

--------

Barbara,



I hate to ask a dumb question, but is the aloe gel you're referring to

the same as fresh aloe or would the fresh aloe be the same proportion?



Thanks for your help,



Joy Keeping



bancroft@UDel.Edu wrote:



> I keep a mixture in a spray bottle for itches, burns, etc. that works

> wonders:  2 parts aloe gel, 1 part tea tree oil, 1 part vitamin e

> oil, and a few drops of lavander.  During the summer it's gone almost

> as fast as I can make it.

> Barbara

> bancroft@udel.edu

> Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org

> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

> We are shaped and fashioned by what we love. Goethe

>



> 



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Mosquitoes.

From: Paul Stevenson <specialfx@btl.net>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:36:48 -0600

--------

Hi Friends,



I check your advice about a good intake of B12 & B complex to repel

mosquitoe.



Anyone know of a natural source, i.e. a plant I could grow so my kids

could chew, or make juice out of?



I know Centrum (A to Zinc) has 6 mcg of vitamin B12, but in Belize it

costs (US)$13.50 for a 100 pack.



Thanks for your time



Paul   ~:-D



From: Paul Stevenson

Technical Director

Special F-X (Sign & Design) Limited

9 Blancaneaux Street

San Ignacio

Belize

Central America

Tel: 501.9.23548

Fax: 501.9.24029

e-mail: specialfx@btl.net

Screenprinting & Graphic Imaging Association -Member

Guild of Master Craftsmen -Member



==========

To: Paul Stevenson <specialfx@btl.net>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mosquitoes.

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:37:01 -0500

--------

Food grade yeast or brewers yeast is an excellent source of B 

vitamins in an acceptable ratio.  Which one you use is  largely a 

matter of taste (pun intended) with the brewers yeast having a more 

bitter flavor.



On 15 Sep 97 at 12:36 

Paul Stevenson wrote: 



> Hi Friends,

> 

> I check your advice about a good intake of B12 & B complex to repel

> mosquitoe.

> 

> Anyone know of a natural source, i.e. a plant I could grow so my

> kids could chew, or make juice out of?

> 

> I know Centrum (A to Zinc) has 6 mcg of vitamin B12, but in Belize

> it costs (US)$13.50 for a 100 pack.

> 

> Thanks for your time

> 

> Paul   ~:-D

> 

> From: Paul Stevenson

> Technical Director

> Special F-X (Sign & Design) Limited

> 9 Blancaneaux Street

> San Ignacio

> Belize

> Central America

> Tel: 501.9.23548

> Fax: 501.9.24029

> e-mail: specialfx@btl.net

> Screenprinting & Graphic Imaging Association -Member

> Guild of Master Craftsmen -Member



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Help in Indiana

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 14:47:06 -0700

--------

Hello all!



I am looking for a REPUTABLE herbalist who lives around Indianapolis, IN or the 

west side who would be willing to work with my mom who suffers from depression. 

She is elderly, about 76 years old and is not getting help from the medical 

community that is effective.  I am sorry if I sound harsh, but I want to see 

your "stuff" before I give you any more info about her.  She is my mom and I 

love her bunches!!  Thanks



Paula



==========

To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Help in Indiana

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:13:55 -0500

--------

Hi,  I am just a person on this list not a herbalist at all.  I can tell

you about depression.  My husband age 68 has suffered from it for years and

had been taking prescription antidepressant meds for years that I knew were

not helping him.  He himself having never felt good , didn't complain to

his doctor because he didn't know just how bad off he was.  Anyway, He

switched to St John's Wort because we saw all the todo about it .  He

weaned himself off his prescription meds at the same time he was adding St

John's Wort.  In three weeks he was totally on St. John's wort.  I will

tell you that he is feeling really good.  After 44 years of marriage it is

like having a new husband.  We can joke and laugh and plan activities.  He

does not feel any other effects from these 3 pills a day that he takes

except he just feels happier and sleeps better.  He was taking them close

to 4 weeks when he noticed that life was better for him.  Our doctor and

our pharmacist both said that there were no bad side effects from St John's

wort and no danger taking it.  

Hope I haven't bored you. I wish the very best for your Mom.  I wish mine

was still here for me to worry about.  Mary Russell     

bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  

> Hello all!

> 

> I am looking for a REPUTABLE herbalist who lives around Indianapolis, IN

or the 

> west side who would be willing to work with my mom who suffers from

depression. 

>  She is elderly, about 76 years old and is not getting help from the

medical 

> community that is effective.  I am sorry if I sound harsh, but I want to

see 

> your "stuff" before I give you any more info about her.  She is my mom

and I 

> love her bunches!!  Thanks

> 

> Paula

> _ _ _                                      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

> _.*>>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:01:12 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Any suggestions for an otherwise healthy pregnant lady who is 8 months preg.

and can't get to sleep and once asleep, can't stay asleep?

Are Catnip, Chamomile, Valerian safe for her and the baby at this stage?

Would love to hear from those herbal midwives out there. She is taking Red

Raspberry leaf tea now.



Traiteusse@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:33:52 -0700

--------

I'd go for catnip and chamomile, preferable to valerian right now.  Catnip's

always good, a nice nervine and keeps braxton-hicks manageable.  Chamomile's

good because it helps curb possible infections as well.  



Massage with almond or olive oil with a few drops of chamomile or lavender

essential oils added would be wonderful too.



Cathy



>Any suggestions for an otherwise healthy pregnant lady who is 8 months preg.

>and can't get to sleep and once asleep, can't stay asleep?

>Are Catnip, Chamomile, Valerian safe for her and the baby at this stage?

> Would love to hear from those herbal midwives out there. She is taking Red

>Raspberry leaf tea now.

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>

                         



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: valkerie <valkerie@pinn.net>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:17:18 -0400

--------

>Are Catnip, Chamomile, Valerian safe for her and the baby at this stage?

>

When I was preg (and it was not that long ago) I used Chamomile tea to help

me sleep.  I would steer clear of Valerian right at this time. Also I used

to use a Lavender mask (cloth sewn like a mask and filled with dried

lavender flowers). When I wanted to relax I would place the mask over my

eley And breath deep.  It is VERY relaxing.  Good luck and Congrats.  My

boy is not 7 1/2 mo. and just had his bottom 2 teeth pop through today!

Blessed Be

Valkerie



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When I heard the storm, I made haste to join it, for in storms nature

always has something extra to show us..

John Muir



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:56:20 -0500

--------

My boy is now 10 months old and I too used the lavendar packs and still

do!



Cho



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:06:34 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-16 01:43:47 EDT, you write:



<< 

My boy is now 10 months old and I too used the lavendar packs and still

do!



Cho >>



Hi, Cho,

I guess one of the posts about this subject didn't get through.  I didn't see

any mention about lavender packs.  Could you fill me in?  The poor woman is

getting exhausted.  She'll be tired for labor and caring for the baby

afterward.



Traiteusse@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:17:52 -0400 (EDT)

--------

SLEEP:

Use the catnip and chamomile for sleep. It should be safe for the pregnant

lady too.

Tension Tamer by Celestial Seasonings is available as a tea at the grocery

store.

It is excellant and has B vitamins too.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: 8mths. preg. & can't sleep

From: silwit@suba.com (Ray Bayley)

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:19:52 -0500 (CDT)

--------

>Any suggestions for an otherwise healthy pregnant lady who is 8 months preg.

>and can't get to sleep and once asleep, can't stay asleep?

>Are Catnip, Chamomile, Valerian safe for her and the baby at this stage?

> Would love to hear from those herbal midwives out there. She is taking Red

>Raspberry leaf tea now.

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com



A couple thoughts (sorry they are not directly about herbs):

In pregnancy vitamin B6 (and its activating mineral, magnesium) can

be "used up" leading to a deficiency.  The deficiency can manifest as an

increase in xanthurenic and kynurenic acids (which inhibit insulin function

among other things), can inhibit formation of serotonin and other brain

chemicals, can inhibit liver detoxification, etc etc, which can interfere

with sleep.  However, too much B6 intake by the mother can lead to a baby

born with a higher need for B6, which formulas and mother's milk cannot

supply.  So play it safest by lab testing for B6 defic (xan. and kyn. in

urine, or EGOT activity, or EMA, etc but not serum or plasma B6) and

correct accordingly.  Less accurately and very likely safe is 100 mg B6 and

100 mg absorbable magnesium (e.g. glycinate) per day.

The drama of hormones in pregnancy can cause excessive awake/aware

side of nerves and hormones.  Fortunately phosphorylated serine (e.g.

SeriPhos by Interplexus) (usually about 200-400 mg/d, especially at the end

of the day) quiets both parts of that side.  And that nutrient is very

valuable in building healthy nerves (yours and the fetus).  The only

caution I know is minimal--the phosphorus in the phos.ser. should be

ideally balanced by at least equal magnesium and twice as much

calcium--however the mother's active metabolism and growing fetus will

probably gladly "use up" the phosphorus...and besides your intake of

calcium and magnesium should be high anyway for both your healths' sakes,

all your lives.



Radiance, Ray



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: Paul Stevenson <specialfx@btl.net>

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:24:41 -0600

--------

Dear friends,



Can anyone please offer herbal advice/treatment to alleviate the effects

and symptoms of Diabetes?  Thanks, appreciate your time.



Paul   ~:-D



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:23:50 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Diabetes:

Many find Chromium..a trace mineral essential for weakness in the pancreas.

I'm using something new called MSM and the testimonies for diabetes are good.

I notice my hypoglcenia is much more stable after 4 weeks of using it. There

are some blends of several herbs used together that seem to help regulate

blood sugar also. You have to have a Dr who is willing to work with you as

your insulin needs change. I know a man who is using pycnogenols and it

lowered his insulin needs 

signifigantly. Debbie J



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: Srcl354@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:35:30 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Paula,

Two years ago when I started doing the natural health business I discovered

afantastic product that has been getting a lot of  good reviews from its

users.  In fact when we do sampling parties, we use it to demonstrate the

effectiveness of using it and its immediacy.

The name of this product is GURMAR.  It means "Sugar destroyer".  It has been

used for over 2000 years in the treatment of obesity and diabetes in Indian

Ayurvedic Medicine.  It helps ensure that the maximum amount of sugar is

metabolized and used properly in the body,  Gurmar stabilizes the blood sugar

level, keeping it well balanced.  Therefore it really helps people with

diabetes as well as those with hypoglycemia.  It also helps to improve liver

and kidney health.



Each 400mg capsule contains gymnema sylvestre extract and leaf.



One great thing about Gurmar is that it works instantly.  It's worth a try.



Doug



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:02:59 -0700

--------

Hi Doug



Where do you get Gurmar??  Is it good for weight loss too?



Paula



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: CTanen83@aol.com

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 10:56:43 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Doug,



Can explain more about how taking gurmar affects obesity?



Carol



==========

To: Paul Stevenson <specialfx@btl.net>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:14:07 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Millet

chromium

bran

cruciferous vegetables



exercise



to avoid large meals



to avoid refined products



I could search in my files for more detailed information if you are 

interested.



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Paul Stevenson wrote:



> Dear friends,

> 

> Can anyone please offer herbal advice/treatment to alleviate the effects

> and symptoms of Diabetes?  Thanks, appreciate your time.

> 

> Paul   ~:-D



> > 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:29:48 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Gymnema is the American word for the Guemar. It helps how the body utilizes

sugar.There is a product called AS with Gymnema....the AS stands for Appetite

Suppresant. It does help...very mild! Debbie J



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Diabetic treatments.

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 97 01:06:18 UT

--------

Bai Hu Tang, Zhu Ye Shi Gao Tang, Yu Ye Tang, Si Jun Zi Tang, Sheng Ling Bai 

Zhu San, Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, Da Bu Yin Wan, Ye Guan Jian, Jin Gui Shen Qi 

Wan,Sang Piao Xiao San are a few  Chinese Herbal formulas for treating 

diabetes. The formula is chosen based upon the presenting signs and symptoms, 

and usually further modified to the individual. Acupuncture (or acupressure) 

may be used to tonify the Yin of the Lung and Kidneys and to regulate the 

Spleen and Stomach. 

If you would like to discuss this further you can email me privately or we 

could discuss it and share the learning experience online.



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holstic.com/listings/HappyHearbalist.html (under construction)



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Itchy feet/aloe

From: BARBARA BANCROFT <bancroft@UDel.Edu>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:01:30 -0400 (EDT)

--------

I use the cheap 100% aloe gel you can get at discount drug stores.  I

assume that fresh aloe would be used in the same quantities, though the

proportions don't really have to be exact.  I usually just pour by "eye".



	Barbara

bancroft@udel.edu

	http://members.tripod.com/~afis/CanineHealth.html



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: St. Johns Wort,  Should I find some and put it in my Herb

Garden?

From: "William M. Groth" <groth@rice.edu>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:15:31

--------

Hello Herbalists,



	I have heard and read so many wonderful things about the properties

of St. John's Wort and I am wondering how will it grow in our hot humid

climate (Houston TX, zone 9a Texas Gulf Coast)?  I would also like to find or

receive a nice thumbnail sketch of how to propogate, grow, care for and use

the various parts of this wonderful herb.  Is it a pretty plant in the garden?

Is it a perenial and more importantly what will it do next year when the 

temperatures get up close to 100F and the humidity is in the 95% range.



	Thank you in advance for any help.  I have noticed that the Phen/Fen

problem may be shared with Prozac.  Now that brings out an interesting

question

regarding the use of St. John's Wort.  Doesn't it have similar uses to Prozac?

If so, would it be a better alternative or does it have possibly detrimental

side affects?

______________________________________________________________________



William M. Groth

groth@ruf.rice.edu

Senior Staff Auditor

Internal Audit Department

phone: (713) 527-8101 ext.3759

	fax:  (713) 285-5927

_____________________________________________________________________



==========

To: HerbInfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: Bryan <Trapperjohn@mindspring.com>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 10:45:00 -0400

--------

Hi,

Is there anything I can do about congestion in the throat which is having 

to make me clear it pretty often. When this happens my nose does not feel 

Congested



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:32:33 -0700

--------

Do you eat dairy foods?  

Stop.  After two weeks you may notice a real difference.



Cathy



>Hi,

>Is there anything I can do about congestion in the throat which is having 

>to make me clear it pretty often. When this happens my nose does not feel 

>Congested

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>

                         



_ _ _                                      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _



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To: Bryan <Trapperjohn@mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:44:00 -0400 (EDT)

--------

It may be caused by excess of mucus in the body.  So besides local 

treatment such as gargles with peroxide, or lemon juice, or listerin, 

etc., you should consume a free or less mucus diet --  more raw 

vegetables and fruits, and less dairy products and cereals.  And if you 

eat cereals, they should be whole grain.



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Bryan wrote:



> Hi,

> Is there anything I can do about congestion in the throat which is having 

> to make me clear it pretty often. When this happens my nose does not feel 

> Congested

> 



> > 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:07:51 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-18 02:09:29 EDT, you write:



<< > Hi,

> Is there anything I can do about congestion in the throat which is having 

> to make me clear it pretty often. When this happens my nose does not feel 

> Congested >>



What are you coughing or clearing?  What type of mucus?  HOw much?  Is it

clear, yellow, etc?  Do you have a tongue coating?  If so, what does it look

like?  Have you been having any abdominal pain or insomnia?  Rectal itching?

Headaches?  Ears itch?



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:56:21 -0700 (MST)

--------

I find that this type of "congestion" in the throat is often caused by cold

stagnation in the body causing an excess build up of mucus that they body

can't disolve and get rid of like it should.  I often will recommend

"warming" herbs to assist in dissolving the excess mucus.  I mix a formula

that I call "Mucusease" it contains Couchgrass, Kelp, Black Pepper,

Cayenne, Ginger and Ma Huang.  It works really well for some folks, only

people who are not super sensitive can take it however, it is quite spicy

(obviously!)  Let me know if you need further information.



At 10:45 AM 9/16/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

>Is there anything I can do about congestion in the throat which is having 

>to make me clear it pretty often. When this happens my nose does not feel 

>Congested

>



Wishing you health and wellness!



Tami Karnes,				One With Nature

Certified Herbalist			P.O. Box 1724

Sedona, AZ				Sedona, AZ  86339-1724

nature@sedona.net			(800) 230-5166

http://home.earthlink.net/~onewthnature/

offering a complete line of hand prepared herbal therapies

free catalog available upon request



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Throat Congestion

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:48:37 -0400

--------

Please send us the proportions.  Sounds good.  Where do you get your

couchgrass?

Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:56:21 -0700 (MST) Tami Karnes <nature@sedona.net>

writes:

>I find that this type of "congestion" in the throat is often caused by 

>cold

>stagnation in the body causing an excess build up of mucus that they 

>body

>can't disolve and get rid of like it should.  I often will recommend

>"warming" herbs to assist in dissolving the excess mucus.  I mix a 

>formula

>that I call "Mucusease" it contains Couchgrass, Kelp, Black Pepper,

>Cayenne, Ginger and Ma Huang.  It works really well for some folks, 

>only

>people who are not super sensitive can take it however, it is quite 

>spicy

>(obviously!)  Let me know if you need further information.

>

>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo Mosquitoes

From: safesci <safesci@ntplx.net>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 21:45:35 -0400

--------

I would suggest trying brewer's yeast as an excellent source of B

vitamins - two tablespoons in the morning does it.  Mosquitoes rarely,

if ever, bother me. Yet, others in the same area are targets of the

flying pests.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re:Thyroid

From: bancroft@UDel.Edu

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:42:53 +0000

--------

I have a friend with a 4yo golden retriever boy.  He has been taking 

thyroid medication for over a year, and is still itchy-all-over, and 

still overweight.  Any suggestions for her would be appreciated!

Barbara      

bancroft@udel.edu

Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

We are shaped and fashioned by what we love. Goethe



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re:Thyroid

From: Cole <coleb@NCWEB.COM>

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:45:32 -0400

--------

bancroft@UDel.Edu wrote:

> 

> I have a friend with a 4yo golden retriever boy.  He has been taking

> thyroid medication for over a year, and is still itchy-all-over, and

> still overweight.  Any suggestions for her would be appreciated!

> Barbara



Hi Barbara,



We have a 5 year old black cocker female with hypothyroid.  We started

her at the vet with the thyroid pills.  They weren't working so the

dosage was upped.  She started gaining weight again!  Had to back off on

the medication.  It seems that it is important to get the tests redone

to verify the thyroid activity.

I am currently supplementing with the following mixture:

Damania (Tunera diffusa)

Stinging Nettle (Urtica Dioica)

Wild Oat (Avena sativa)

Bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosis)

Wormwood (Artemesia annua)

Kelp Extract



I think that the main activity for thyroid is the Kelp extract.

Now that she's been on it regularly for a while, and we put her on a

diet.  She is loosing pounds and more frisky!  I intend to get the test

redone at the end of another month to see what we've done to the thyroid

level.



The remedies should support the thyroid function without medication.

We'll see.



Good Luck,

Carter

coleb@ncweb.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re:Thyroid

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:10:51 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Kelp is good for thyroid conditions and is full of trace minerals which makes

it good for the dogs coat! My son lost weight and "fixed" his thryroid using

kelp. He is now back to his old slim self. Debbie J



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Mononucleosis

From: morgan14@potsdam.edu (Bear)

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 07:08:48 -0500

--------

Hi

I am a 42 yr old and have mono that I do not seem to be able to shake I

have had it for well over 6 months been doing the vitamin theraphy of a

good daily and L-Lysine  and eating well and resting all the time but I do

not seem to be able to shake it any ideas or help would be appreciated

TIA

Linn



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mononucleosis

From: Herbs2you@aol.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 08:51:51 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Heavy doses of Vitamin C are helpful for Mono amd chronic fatigue. It is

water soluable....every 4 hrs take more. Nature's Sunshine makes a blend of

chinese herbs

called VS-C It was formulated by a Chinese Dr. just for virus. I have found

it to be very helpful with my daughter when she had mono. Look on your yellow

pages under health stores to see if there is a distributor in your area. If

not I can ship some to you. Debbie J.....(leaving Thur for 10 days)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mononucleosis

From: Meander5@aol.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 20:11:23 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Linn,



I am distributing a supplement that may help you...it is called Thymic

Formula and is a unique formulation containing thymus extracts, vitamins and

minerals which dramatically boost immunity to all kinds of things (including

hepatitis B and C, herpies, asthma, allergies, hayfever, chronic fatigue

syndrome, lupus rheumatoid arthritis, MS, psoriasis, dermatitis, etc.). 



Every doctor and nurse is taught that the thymus gland controls the immune

system, but when the thymus dries up (which begins happening at about age

20), no one treats that as a medical condition.  If your pancreas dries up

and you develop diabetes, you are given insulin.  If your adrenal glands dry

up and you develop Addison's Disease, you are given cortisone.  If your

ovaries dry up, you are given female hormones.  Thymic Formula should be

given to people when their thymus gets smaller or dries up.



Basically, it stimulates the immune system to produce interferon,

interleukin, white blood cells, red blood cells, T cells, etc.  It is the T

cells that fight the battle against viruses, bacteria, yeast, and other

foreign invaders that attack the body's immune system.



I have a web site under construction that has prices, my e-mail and business

address.  Should you like more information, I would be happy to mail it to

you.  In the near future, I hope to add a couple pages of information to the

web site which would elaborate on frequently asked questions and

testimonials.



www.1second.com/immune.htm



I hope this helps you (or someone else that happens to read this).



Peace, love and light,



Mary

Meander5@aol.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mononucleosis

From: LorHer@aol.com

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:46:39 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-17 07:08:32 EDT, you write:



<< Hi

I am a 42 yr old and have mono that I do not seem to be able to shake I

have had it for well over 6 months been doing the vitamin theraphy of a

good daily and L-Lysine  and eating well and resting all the time but I do

not seem to be able to shake it any ideas or help would be appreciated

TIA

Linn >>



Linn



I had mono two years ago.  I am now 45.  It took me close to a year before I

felt really well again, so be patient.  When we get it in our 40's it seems

to take longer to rehabilitate then when we are in our teens or twenties.  



I found that a tincture of Echinechea and Goldenseal assisted me in getting

through the most debilitating months.  I also took a lot of vitamin C and E

and rested a great deal.  I also cut back on my work schedule and rested,

rested rested.  



I will be more then happy to provide more detailed information if you wish to

email me directly.



Linda



LorHer@aol.com



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Overweight Dog Needs Help

From: "Diane bergdoll" <bergdoll@oakharbor.net>

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:27:42 -0700

--------

Hi.

I am new to the list and this is my first posting.  My daughter has a

lovely Dalmatian that is extremely fat.  She is 36 pound over-weight.  She

has a bad heart and breathing problems.  I cannot get her to cut back on

the dog's food, but she is willing to give the dog an appetite suppressant

so she won't eat as much.  However, they all seem to contain caffeine,

which a dog cannot have.  Any ideas?  

Di



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Overweight Dog Needs Help

From: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:14:08 -0500

--------

At 05:27 PM 9/17/97 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi.

>I am new to the list and this is my first posting.  My daughter has a

>lovely Dalmatian that is extremely fat.  She is 36 pound over-weight.  She

>has a bad heart and breathing problems.  I cannot get her to cut back on

>the dog's food, but she is willing to give the dog an appetite suppressant

>so she won't eat as much.  However, they all seem to contain caffeine,

>which a dog cannot have.  Any ideas?  

>Di



I am always extremely upfront with my clients who have fat dogs.  If you

don't diet your dog, you will spend more money on vet visits due to fat

induced ailments.  Then I list as many as I can think of on the spot.  I

also try to get them to understand that they are slowly killing the dog.

My MIL's dog recently had to be euthanized at the young age of 9 and part

of her problem was that she was fed and fed and fed.  Over 20 lbs overweight.

Tell her to forget the drugs and put the dog on a natural raw meat based

diet.  If she still insists on feeding the dog till it pukes, make oatmeal

for breakfast and feed the dog oatmeal.  Add green beans or canned pumpkin.

Those are all fillers to make her think she's still stuffing the dog but

hopefully the dog will loose weight in the long run.  Another point, a long

run.  Exercise the dog.  Don't just set the dog in the back yard and expect

it to run because most won't.  Actively participate in the dog's weight

loss.  I'll bet it will do the owner some good too! :)



P.

Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net



Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline   

Dog Obedience Training

Iowa, USA



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Overweight Dog Needs Help

From: Cole <coleb@ncweb.com>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:26:47 -0400

--------

Diane bergdoll wrote:

> 

> Hi.

> I am new to the list and this is my first posting.  My daughter has a

> lovely Dalmatian that is extremely fat.  She is 36 pound over-weight.  She

> has a bad heart and breathing problems.  I cannot get her to cut back on

> the dog's food, but she is willing to give the dog an appetite suppressant



Loving/caring for a pet is equal to doing what is neccessary to maintain

their health throughout their lifetime.  If she *really* loves her dog,

she will put the dog on a strick weight loss diet and start it on some

anti-oxidant vitamins (C, E, & Beta-Carotine).  I have a black cocker

female with a hypo-thyroid problem.  As a result of medication, she

started to gain weight = obese.  We placed her on a strict diet with no

treats.  She has lost 2 pounds in the last 3 weeks.  We have about 5

more to loose to reach the goal.  The dog is happy and a lot more frisky

with the diet.  Most dog food manufacturers provide guidelines on the

package for amounts to feed.  Start out by cutting that down by a cup

per day.  Work from there to adjust for desired results.



Good luck,

Carter

coleb@ncweb.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Thymus

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:41:22 -0400

--------

The thymus dries up naturally, as it was designed to.  Female hormones

don't dry up, they just give up their surge patterns and need not be

supplemented if diet and exercise patterns are reasonable.  The pancreas

and adrenal glands only atrophy in pathological circumstances.



The idea that everyone should take thymus (from what, cows?) just because

they are engaging in the natural process of aging makes little sense. 

Our bodies are designed to have different biochemical profiles at

different stages of life. If someone has an age-appropriate deficiency

OTOH, such supplementation may make sense.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 20:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Meander5@aol.com writes:



>Every doctor and nurse is taught that the thymus gland controls the

immune

>system, but when the thymus dries up (which begins happening at about 

>age 20), no one treats that as a medical condition.  If your pancreas 

>dries up and you develop diabetes, you are given insulin.  If your

adrenal 

>glands dry up and you develop Addison's Disease, you are given

cortisone.  If 

>your ovaries dry up, you are given female hormones.  Thymic Formula

should 

>be given to people when their thymus gets smaller or dries up.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Thymus

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:19:50 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-18 03:00:47 EDT, you write:



<< The idea that everyone should take thymus (from what, cows?) just because

they are engaging in the natural process of aging makes little sense. 

Our bodies are designed to have different biochemical profiles at

different stages of life. If someone has an age-appropriate deficiency

OTOH, such supplementation may make sense.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com >>



We were taught to tap our chest above the thymus to awaken it since it

shrinks from shock, etc.  The size of it seems to vary according to what we

are experiencing, also.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



==========

To: HerbInfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Throat Congestion

From: Bryan <Trapperjohn@mindspring.com>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 06:53:00 -0400

--------

Hi,

Yes I do. why does this matter.



Bryan

Trapperjohn@mindspring.com



>Do you eat dairy foods?  

>Stop.  After two weeks you may notice a real difference.

>

>Cathy

>

>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:58:11 -0500

--------

Anyone have any ideas for sore and bleeding gum line?  Only the bottom gum

is affected and only certain parts.  I cannot stand the taste or smell of

goldenseal, are there any other alternatives?  Pill form instead of

brushing with a combo?



P.

Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net



Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline   

Dog Obedience Training

Iowa, USA



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:52:20 -0400

--------

Vitamin C. 1000 mg three times a day or more will be great for

your gums and teetch as well.pn

Priscilla Blanchard wrote: Anyone have any ideas for sore and

bleeding gum line?  Only the bottom gum



> is affected and only certain parts.  I cannot stand the

> taste or smell of

> goldenseal, are there any other alternatives?  Pill form

> instead of

> brushing with a combo?

>

> P.

> Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net

>

> Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline

> Dog Obedience Training

> Iowa, USA



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 02:47:04 -0400 (EDT)

--------

well, thank you folks so much! I'm typing w/a clove in the *affected*

area--it stings, sort of, but, that takes my mind off the pain...sheesh, to

have the money for a periodontist (to provide him/her w/a yacht). (I tried a

drop of echenachia (sp?)/goldenseal---boy was that nasty! but it did seem to

alleviate the pain temporarily).

I'm gonna sleep on it (not the side w/the cloves) and I will let you know..

thanks dear friends,

kai



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:00:52 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-19 05:27:42 EDT, you write:



<< well, thank you folks so much! I'm typing w/a clove in the *affected*

area--it stings, sort of, but, that takes my mind off the pain...sheesh, to

have the money for a periodontist (to provide him/her w/a yacht). (I tried a

drop of echenachia (sp?)/goldenseal---boy was that nasty! but it did seem to

alleviate the pain temporarily).

I'm gonna sleep on it (not the side w/the cloves) and I will let you know..

thanks dear friends,

kai >>



I have found that holding a clove in the mouth, in contact with the mucous

membrane, can take a bit of skin right off if held there for too long.  You

could be left with a red patch on cheek or tongue.  Of course, the cloves I

buy are very, very fresh and full of oil, not dried up like the cloves one

gets in the boxes at the spice section of a grocery store.  



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: Naomi Corey <ncorey@sover.net>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:41:10 -1000

--------

TRAITEUSSE@aol.com wrote:

> 

> In a message dated 97-09-19 05:27:42 EDT, you write:

> 

> << well, thank you folks so much! I'm typing w/a clove in the

> *affected*

>  area--it stings, sort of, but, that takes my mind off the

> pain..



I have used Tea Tree Oil to get rid of sore gums.  I *just* moisten the

tip of a cotton swab with the oil and put it on the sore spot.  It kinda

numbs the area and takes care of the problem, too.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Sore Gums

From: AndreaRdr@aol.com

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 09:54:00 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Oh, just one note on the cloves -- I bought the clove oil at a health food

store -- not the whole clove.  Dab a little on.  



-AndreaR



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To: Herb Binfo <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Amino Acids?

From: Monique Bridges <mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:45:22 -0400 (EDT)

--------



My friend was crusing on the www to find out infomation on fat burning amino

acids. She found a lot of information on different types of amino acids.



I couldn't figure out what kind for her to use.  Is there any one out there

that has information on what type of amino my friend will need that will

burn fat? 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Amino Acids?

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:15:12 -0400

--------

While arginine and ornithine are good for fat loss, and the

recommendation is to take them individually, without other food, I never

found them useful.  It seems that if you need to lose weight, or you are

a woman, they really don't work well.  If you are obese, of any gender,

they don't work either.  But if you don't need them...



Best to do it holistically.  Fewer side effects (arginine aggravates

herpes, for example) and they weight loss will last longer.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Monique Bridges

<mbridges@freenet.columbus.oh.us> writes:

>

>My friend was crusing on the www to find out infomation on fat burning 

>amino



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Amino Acids?

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:56:36 -0400

--------

The amino acid exercise not a herb but an activity like

walking, swimming, riding, skiing,bicycling,etc

creationsgarden@juno.com wrote:



> While arginine and ornithine are good for fat loss, and the

> recommendation is to take them individually, without other

> food, I never



==========

To: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Amino Acids?

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:40:26 -0500

--------

WRT Arginine and Ornithine. you should also take the amino acid 

Lysine at the same time for proper effect. Lysine also handles the 

issue of arginine and herpes. ( THe lysine will knock out herpes 

simplex in a day if you take it at the first sign if a cold sore)



TImimg is very important when taking Arginine/ornithine and Lysine 

combo.  Do it when going to bed on an empty stomach - or at least one 

that doesn't have any fat in it. So don't take it with milk for 

example. ( Losing weight is also helped by  not eating late at night 

so you have no fat in your stomach.)   Alternatively take it about 45 

- 90 minutes before exercising (again no fat in stomach).  It will 

help increase muscle mass and aid in fat burning due to exercise. 



Note that the among the primary functions of the combo, is giving 

your body the precursors for growth howrmone (GH) and some 

stimulation of the thymus to make killer T cells.  After 40 you 

make very little GH. SO by priming the pump, you make more.  That has 

immune system and antiaging implications.  



Sticking anything into your body - herbs, amino acids, medicine, 

drugs - is not a simpolistic situation. You have to consider them 

from a holistic perspective.  There is no one magic bullet. While 

learning from others and reading, you must still  learn to be your 

own guide cause your are the only one who truly can sense what effect 

the stuff you do is having.  



It isn't weight loss your are after anyway.  Muscle weighs more than 

fat.  Become more fit and you will be slimmer but weigh more.  Muscle 

burns more calories so it you helps stay slim.    Eat what your body 

needs and you won't have as strong cravings.  Excercise the large 

muscles of the thighs to turn on fat burning in your body.    Eat big 

in the morning and light at night.  Eat a combo of 40% carbo, 30% 

protein and 30% fat (preferably mono unsaturate) to tell your body 

there is no famine and it is ok to burn fat and not digest its own 

muscle protein.   Learn your body. Take vitmains and nutritional 

supplements so you are sure of getting what your body needs and 

cravings diminish.  And yes, take the herbs that aid in the process.  



CRASH - (Sound of someone falling off soapbox)



On 18 Sep 97 at 23:56 

P.Nighswander wrote: 



> The amino acid exercise not a herb but an activity like

> walking, swimming, riding, skiing,bicycling,etc



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Commercial Posts

From: S Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:49:24 -0700 (PDT)

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Hi,



This message is of particular interest to those in the business

of selling herbs, supplements, herbal related products, etc.



At times, listmembers request information about herbs and such.



Then I see a response, directed to the list in general, extolling

the virtues of a certain vendors product line and directing list

members to a web site.



Responses to these types of posts should be conducted by private email

to the party requesting information.



If you want to post a response to the list, then provide the information,

but do not use the body of your message as an advertising board for

your business.  Give the information and nothing more.



You may use a 4-5 line sig with your response to let people know

that you have products and/or services available.



The following would be acceptable.



John Jones

jj@herbstuff.net

Authorized Herbstuff Distributor

http://www.herbstuff.net/~jj



or



John Jones

jj@herbstuff.net

Herbal Products and Information at

http://www.herbstuff.net/~jj



Or better yet, if you want to promote your business, sign on to the chat list

and have a go at it there.



You will find instructions at the end of this message.



Thank you for your cooperation.



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



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To: Wellpet@ListService.com, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: CRICKET INVASION!

From: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:17:28 -0500

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Can anyone give me some ideas (other than those sticky sheets) to curb the

crickets in our house??  They normally are in our basement (dry) but this

year in the last couple of weeks, they have begun to invade our living

quarters!  Is there an herb or flower essence or essential oil that I can

place on the steps or around the house to deter the Black Invaders?

Must be non-toxic so the dogs and child are not in danger. :)



P.

Priscilla Blanchard     trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net



Bull Terrier Rescue  1-800-BTBT911 Hotline   

Dog Obedience Training

Iowa, USA



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To: Priscilla Blanchard <trainyourdog@cfu-cybernet.net>, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: CRICKET INVASION!

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:30:17 -0500

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Don't know if it works for crickets, but Osage Oranges will keep 

cockroaches out of your living quarters.  Non-toxic to people, the 

roaches do not like the scent (which people don't notice / smell 

particularly.)   They are the INEDIBLE yellowish - green knobbly 

looking things about the size of an orange or an apple.  (looks kind 

of like an orange sized green brain.)  One in a room will drive the 

critters away.    Might be worth a try for the crickets if you can 

find the Osage oranges where you are.   They were originally in 

Texas, Okla, Arkansas, however people plant them for ornamentals 

everywhere now.   It is also called bodark, bois d'arc, bowwood, or 

hedge apple.  They are part of the Mulberry family  Maclura Pomifera.



On 19 Sep 97 at 18:17 

Priscilla Blanchard wrote: 



> Can anyone give me some ideas (other than those sticky sheets) to

> curb the crickets in our house??  They normally are in our basement



Gerald W. McCLurg   

gwm@thc-tsg.com  or mcclurg_gerald@georgesharp.com

George G Sharp

Department Head

Information Technology Department

Technical Services Group



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Teas

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:51:29 -0700

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Hi all!



I love Earl Grey tea.  Does it have any medicinal benefits, i hope, i hope.  

teehee



P.S.  I know the cafiene isn't good.



Paula



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Ephedrine / Ma Huang

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 97 07:08:36 UT

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<<  Chinese medicine rarely uses the herb alone and the amount is carefully 

considered to the individual  (rarely over 9grams mixed with other herbs that 

often serve to regulate the harsh properties of Ma Huang)  and so has been 

safely used in TCM for thousands of years. >>



Pat asked  "Do you really mean "9 grams" here-or 9 milligrams?  Just curious!  

:)

9 grams(slightly less than 1/3 ounce) of dry herb is usually the most one 

uses.



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holstic.com/listings/HappyHearbalist.html (under construction)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #81

From: Merricat <merricat@geocities.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 21:48:34 +1000

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> Oh, just one note on the cloves -- I bought the clove oil at a health food

> store -- not the whole clove.  Dab a little on.

>

> - -AndreaR



umm... the active constituent of cloves is the volatile oil eugenol (which dentists

used to use as an anasthetic). It makes up between 70-95% of clove oil, and is a

mucous membrane irritant and fairly toxic. Chewing cloves for toothache is fine, but

I really wouldn't use the oil on its own - it's too concentrated, especially in your

mouth. Good luck with your toothache anyway, sorry to be prophecying doom.



                    merricat



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #81

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:25:48 -0400 (EDT)

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In a message dated 97-09-21 08:22:12 EDT, you write:



>> From:	merricat@geocities.com (Merricat)

>> Oh, just one note on the cloves -- I bought the clove oil at a health food

>> store -- not the whole clove.  Dab a little on.

>

>umm... the active constituent of cloves is the volatile oil eugenol (which

>dentists



Clove toothache drops are still sold, but they do destroy the nerve of the

tooth after a while, so it would be best to see a dentist as fast as possible

and just use for an emergency situation.



Would any dentists or dental hygenists out there care to comment on the use

of clove oil as a temporary measure for toothache?



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: Newbie and Preggie question

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 06:13:43 UT

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I was wondering what herbs would be helpful if any before, during and after 

the pregnancy?  Also, last time, my milk left of it's own accord before I was 

done with it (about 4 months)..



Quite a few Chinese Herbs are very effective.  - they're different ones 

reflecting your condition and should not just be lumped together. My wife and 

I just had our first baby girl (Doral Ming Kasper, May 20, 1997). Prior to and 

after my wife (Sue Wan) had soup every day  made with fresh fish. The fish was 

cooked for hours to release all the Omega-3 oils. occasionally pork  (3x week) 

was substituted. One could probably have their own pharmacy / diner.  Shark 

Fin Soup, or shredded shark fin - available at our local oriental food stores; 

When you make chicken soup be sure to break the bones to help release the 

marrow and nutrients. The chicken knuckles and breastbones are the best source 

for Chrondritium Shulfate that has been claimed to rejuvenate human cartilage 

and ease arthritis pain (one study by Harvard Medical - but don't have to 

exact source) Same for beef / pork ribs (ends) and knuckles. If you buy 

organic or free range chickens, buy really fresh (not frozen) fish, add other 

organic veggies ... I think I would be able to eat for month on what it would 

cost for the standardized super potency isolated active ingredient in a 30 day 

supply of a magic bullet. However since it is easier to take one capsule then 

to go shopping, fix dinner and do the dishes ....



If you care to be more specific as to your condition I as well as others on 

the list could offer  more suggestions. If you prefer confidentiality  you 

could e mail me privately and obtain herbs locally or on the net. Is your 

health good and your body functions "normally"  ? Do you tend to be more cold 

than warm ? Happy and love what you're doing (working with animals) but hate 

the "business end" ?



To a healthy birth,



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holstic.com/listings/HappyHearbalist.html (under construction)



BTW I really enjoyed a book about dogs and cats  Four Paws Five Directions 

which helps our friends using  Chinese Herbs and Acupuncture much in the same 

manner as I learned Chinese Medicine. 



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To: Herbs <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: intro

From: pcporter@palmnet.net

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:44:05 -0400

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Hi, my name is Denise, and I'm a newbie on this list.  I'm also new to

the idea of using herbs for anything other than cooking.  I've thought

about looking into it in the past, but didn't really need to, just

wanted to.  Now I'm in a position to need something different.  I have

made a concious decision to improve my health and lifestyle.  Yes, I am

getting older.  I'm losing weight, and plan on quiting smoking in the

not to distant future.  The problem I'm having is with PMS or possibly a

hormone imbalance.  I was on the Pill for 3 years, being off now about 3

months.  I'm asking for a recommandation for an alternative to synthetic

hormones to combat the symptoms-bloating, depression, irritability, etc.

Thanks,

Denise



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: intro

From: "kordord@vicon.net" <kordord@vicon.net>

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:05:53 +0000

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> From:          pcporter@palmnet.net

> Hi, my name is Denise, and I'm a newbie on this list.  I'm also new to

> the idea of using herbs for anything other than cooking.  I've thought

> about looking into it in the past, but didn't really need to, just

> wanted to.  Now I'm in a position to need something different.  I have

> made a concious decision to improve my health and lifestyle.  Yes, I am

> getting older.  I'm losing weight, and plan on quiting smoking in the

> not to distant future.  The problem I'm having is with PMS or possibly a

> hormone imbalance.  I was on the Pill for 3 years, being off now about 3

> months.  I'm asking for a recommandation for an alternative to synthetic

> hormones to combat the symptoms-bloating, depression, irritability, etc.

> Thanks,

> Denise



Denise;



You sound identical to me at that time of month.  Yes there are 

herbal remedies for PMS and I have been using them as I need to (for 

the last two years).  



1) corn silk tea is a diuretic and helps with  the bloating problem.  

Corn silk is the silky ends when you get corn on the cob.  If you dry 

it by lying it out and after dried, store it in a jar (dark colored 

or in a darkened area) this is a remedy that can remain around all 

winter.   About 2-3TB of the chopped up dry silk, steeped in boiling 

water for 5-10 minutes (enough water for 3-4 cups).  Makes a slightly 

bitter tea that can be taken 2-3 times a day to relieve the bloating 

which will make you feel better all around.



2) Cramp bark (Viburnum opulus, L.) also known as high cranberry, 

snowball terr, guelder rose, squaw bush, or crampbark high.



This is a anti-cramp tea and it works wonders for me.  The bark of 

the bush/tree is used, ground up.  again 2-3TB steeped in boiling 

water (3-4 cups worth) makes a tea that is extremely bitter.  When 

you make this tea it is recommended by me to mix in mint, regular 

tea, and other better flavors to calm down the bitterness.  It is 

also a slight diuretic and helps with the water shedding during the 

first couple days of menses.



Since your symptoms you list are menses related I would not recommend 

any herb for the depression.  I think that if you try the above herbs 

(and there may be others, but these ones I use with great results) 

you will discover that the water-bloating problem creates the mental 

irritability and depressed thoughts.  Eliminate the bloating and thus 

feel better mentally too.



If you have further ??'s feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

Kim Ord

mailto:kordord@vicon.net (home)

mailto:kimord@opaws.com (work)

mailto:opaws@penn.com (work/home)

mailto:collectstamps.guide@miningco.com

(Guide - Stamp Collecting at MiningCo)



http://www.opaws.com/Default.htm (OPaWS)

http://collectstamps.miningco.com 

http://www.vicon.net/~kordord/



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: intro

From: Srcl354@aol.com

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:41:16 -0400 (EDT)

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Hi Denise,



There is a product that have done wonders for women at those times per month.

I know this because I have received many hugs and handshakes (from husbands)

after these women use this product.   In fact one Nigerian lady nearly lift

me off the ground after she took this product, resulting in a sharp reduction

of flow,  and no discomfort (considering she had fibroids).  The product-name

is Female Formula.

This normalizes menstruation, reduces cramps helps eliminate PMS and problems

with menopause.  (Excellent when used with male formula to lessen hot

flashes).



Ingredients:  400mg capsules containing ginger, dong quai, black haw,

crampbark, valerian, fenugreek, red rasberry, and licorice extracts in a

whole herb base of angelica root, fenugreek seed, red rasberry, licorice,

black cohosh, and crampbark.

(It is Kosher).



If you need more info email me at Srcl354@aol.com



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Well Pet List

From: Sam Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:28:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Hello List,



>From time to time, we get questions regarding herbal remedies for your furry

kids

aka animals and pets.  And the well pet list usually comes up as well.



I note that they have moved to a different server.  All you pet people out there

may want to file this info away for safe keeping.



Cheers:)



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo/HerbInfo-Chat

sbrooks@earthlink.net



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: RE:Sore Gums

From: "William M. Groth" <groth@rice.edu>

Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:12:28

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Hello All,



I noted this in the HerbInfo Digest V97 #80 and thought I would ask if anyone

has tried the Novocaine or Toothache plant (Spilanthes acmelia)?? I have

chewed

on the leaves and it does have a numbing affect on the mouth.



>In a message dated 97-09-19 05:27:42 EDT, you write:

>

><< well, thank you folks so much! I'm typing w/a clove in the *affected*

> area--it stings, sort of, but, that takes my mind off the pain...sheesh, to

> have the money for a periodontist (to provide him/her w/a yacht). (I tried a

> drop of echenachia (sp?)/goldenseal---boy was that nasty! but it did seem to

> alleviate the pain temporarily).

> I'm gonna sleep on it (not the side w/the cloves) and I will let you know..

> thanks dear friends,

> kai >>

>

>I have found that holding a clove in the mouth, in contact with the mucous

>membrane, can take a bit of skin right off if held there for too long.  You

>could be left with a red patch on cheek or tongue.  Of course, the cloves I

>buy are very, very fresh and full of oil, not dried up like the cloves one

>gets in the boxes at the spice section of a grocery store.  

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com

>Henrietta Lala

>_ _ _ 

______________________________________________________________________



William M. Groth

groth@ruf.rice.edu

Senior Staff Auditor

Internal Audit Department

phone: (713) 527-8101 ext.3759

	fax:  (713) 285-5927

_____________________________________________________________________



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Commercial/Business Posts

From: Sam Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT)

--------

This message being reposted for the benefit of new subscribers.



Hi,



This message is of particular interest to those in the business

of selling herbs, supplements, herbal related products, etc.



At times, listmembers request information about herbs and such.



Then I see a response, directed to the list in general, extolling

the virtues of a certain vendors product line and directing list

members to a web site.



Responses to these types of posts should be conducted by private email

to the party requesting information.



If you want to post a response to the list, then provide the information,

but do not use the body of your message as an advertising board for

your business.  Give the information and nothing more.



You may use a 4-5 line sig with your response to let people know

that you have products and/or services available.



The following would be acceptable.



John Jones

jj@herbstuff.net

Authorized Herbstuff Distributor

http://www.herbstuff.net/~jj



or



John Jones

jj@herbstuff.net

Herbal Products and Information at

http://www.herbstuff.net/~jj



Or better yet, if you want to promote your business, sign on to the chat list

and have a go at it there.



You will find instructions at the end of this message.



Thank you for your cooperation.



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: bancroft@UDel.Edu

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:29:27 +0000

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Has anyone used tea tree oil for toenail fungus with any success?  

Other suggestions welcome.

Barbara      

bancroft@udel.edu

Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

...not tonight, dear, I have a modem.      



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: Loretta Tyson <Ltysonhunting@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 20:54:05 -0700

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...tea tree oil for toenail fungus...



I did use it for about two weeks, every night,  and it definately

helped.  Unfortunately, we went on vacation for a week and I

discontinued using it.  It's been three weeks now and I am thinking

about starting again because I've noticed there was an improvement and I

am thinking that maybe I just needed to continue the use for a little

longer.



I used it straight from the bottle (being it is one of the few that can

be used undiluted) with an eye dropper.  Putting just enought to wet the

nail and I also put it under the nails as best I could.  I massaged it

into my feet also.



Hope this helps.  



Sincerely,

Loretta Tyson

Ltysonhunting@worldnet.att.net



bancroft@UDel.Edu wrote: 

> Has anyone used tea tree oil for toenail fungus with any success?

> Other suggestions welcome.

> Barbara

> bancroft@udel.edu

> Canine Health Page dog.home.ml.org



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: Colleen Martinez <lenybean@flash.net>

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:16:48 -0500

--------

Loretta Tyson wrote:

> 

> ...tea tree oil for toenail fungus...

> 

> I did use it for about two weeks, every night,  and it definately

> helped.  Unfortunately, we went on vacation for a week and I



Hi all, 



Any toenail fungus is extremely difficult to get rid of.  It is almost a

systemic problem, by this I mean that it flairs up at times and at other

times it seems to get better.  One thing that I have learned (I am a

manicurist for 10 years) is that you have to be very dilligent in

whatever you use.  You have to use it at least twice a day for probably

a good month or so.  Even if it seems like it is gone, keep using it. 

Tea tree does work well for this.  It is sort of like using pennicillin

for an illness.  Even if it syptoms seem to disappear, keep using it. 

Toe fungus is by far one of the hardest things to get rid of.  Just my

.02 worth.  



Good Luck.



Warm wishes, 



Colleen



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 97 19:11:01 PDT

--------

Tea Tree oil used Neat (straight from the bottle) is the treatment of

choice for toe nail fungus.  You do have to use it daily though, until the

problem descreases.  Just swap it all over the fungus area and allow to

kind of "soak in" a bit before putting your sock back on.  Be sure to wear

clean socks daily until healed.



Hope this helps,

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: Loretta Tyson <Ltysonhunting@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 06:35:45 -0700

--------

...You have to use it at least twice a day for probably a good month or

so... 



Thanks Colleen, your two cents gave me $50 worth of info!



Colleen Martinez wrote:

> Hi all, 

> Any toenail fungus is extremely difficult to get rid of.  It is almost a

> systemic problem, by this I mean that it flairs up at times and at other



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:00:10 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 09:39:30 EDT, you write:



<< Tea Tree oil used Neat (straight from the bottle) is the treatment of

choice for toe nail fungus.  You do have to use it daily though, until the

problem descreases.  Just swap it all over the fungus area and allow to

kind of "soak in" a bit before putting your sock back on.  Be sure to wear

clean socks daily until healed.



Hope this helps,

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780 >>



And when they say daily they mean daily and it could be up to three months.

The reason for that is that the fungus is under the nail and as the nail

grows it pushes the fungus infected area forward so it can come in better

contact with the oil.  I find that a daily soak in a weak bleach solution

(about 1 tsp bleach per gallon of water) for at least 1/2 hour will do a lot

toward killing the fungus and loosening up the area so that when the Tea Tree

Oil is applied it will penetrate more.



I would also recommend adding bleach to the wash cycle when doing the socks

and putting AAmen's (no commercial interest), into the shoes each day.  Be

sure not to wear the same pair of shoes two days in a row, let one pair air

out in a dry, sunny area while wearing the other.  A lot of people wear the

same workout shoes day after day and let's face it, one sweats more when

working out, especially through the feet.

If possible, buy a pair of shoes that can be run through a bleach wash with

the socks.



Whenever possible go barefoot or wear sandals without socks.  Get those socks

and shoes off as soon as you hit the door.  Expose the feet to the air

whenever you can.  Fungus loves dark, damp places.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: John Rodway <jer4@psu.edu>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:07:15 -0400

--------

>

>Whenever possible go barefoot or wear sandals without socks.  Get those socks

>and shoes off as soon as you hit the door.  Expose the feet to the air

>whenever you can.  Fungus loves dark, damp places.

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com

>Henrietta Lala



I have fungus affecting three fingernails.  Will this process work on them?

Dark, damp, places does not apply here.



J. Rodway



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:17:38 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 11:12:22 EDT, you write:



<<  Expose the feet to the air

>whenever you can.  Fungus loves dark, damp places.

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com

>Henrietta Lala

>

> 

I have fungus affecting three fingernails.  Will this process work on them?

Dark, damp, places does not apply here.



J. Rodway >>



I have the feeling you are missing some tissue salt.  This might be a case

for a homeopathic physician.  Horsetail extract which contains silica would

also help.

Is it the thumb, index and finger next to the index that is affected? 

The weak bleach solution (1 tsp. to 1 gallon water) soak for 15 min. 2xday,

followed by application of Tea Tree Oil would help, but I still have the gut

feeling you are in need of a homeopathic approach and that some element your

body needs is missing.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: John Rodway <jer4@psu.edu>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:53:34 -0400

--------

> 

> I have fungus affecting three fingernails.  Will this process work on them?

>  Dark, damp, places does not apply here.

> 

> J. Rodway >>

>

> I have the feeling you are missing some tissue salt.  This might be a case

>for a homeopathic physician.  Horsetail extract which contains silica would

>also help.

>Is it the thumb, index and finger next to the index that is affected? 

>The weak bleach solution (1 tsp. to 1 gallon water) soak for 15 min. 2xday,

>followed by application of Tea Tree Oil would help, but I still have the gut

>feeling you are in need of a homeopathic approach and that some element your

>body needs is missing.

>

>Traiteusse@aol.com

>Henrietta Lala

>

Yes this is the thumb, first, and second fingers of the right hand. 

Could you give me more details?



J. Rodway



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Toenail fungus

From: Loretta Tyson <Ltysonhunting@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:31:54 -0700

--------



Thanks for all the good info, Marcia.  It is definately a help to me.  More

or less confirmed my thinking, 

but now I feel confident about what I am doing.  Thanks again.



Sincerely,

Loretta Tyson

Ltysonhunting@worldnet.att.net

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #83

From: Bernard Kerr/Anne Milligan <paws-itivechoice@sympatico.ca>

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:53:14 -0400

--------

>



Karen Vaughan wrote:



>   OTOH, if making it is not your cup of tea, you

> can purchase unpasturized vinegars (if you want a live product) or

> pasturized ones, if you are willing to forgo the probiotic boost and just

> get the constituents.  And the vinegars are less likely to go bad if you

> add the herbs which boost your mineral contents and add medicinal value.

>



I keep hearing about Probiotics.  Could someone please explain them to me and how they

might compare with digestive enzymes?



TIA



Anne Milligan

Oxford Mills

Ontario, Canada



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #83

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:05:14 -0400

--------

Probiotics are the micro-organisms that inhabit your gut (among other

things) and form a living wallpaper that keeps yeasts, bits of undigested

food and other pathogens from penetrating your intestinal wall where it

can cause diseases and allergies.  They also help digest food particles

and transform it into usable forms.  There are some 500 or so species,

among which acidophilous is one of the best known.  



Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body will

produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come from

food sources (like papaya).

Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:53:14 -0400 Bernard Kerr/Anne Milligan

<paws-itivechoice@sympatico.ca> writes:

>>



>I keep hearing about Probiotics.  Could someone please explain them to 

>me and how they

>might compare with digestive enzymes?

>

>TIA

>

>Anne Milligan



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #86

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 05:17:58 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 03:45:32 EDT, Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com write:



<< Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body will

produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come from

food sources (like papaya). >>



What are other food sources?

thanks,

kai



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: HerbInfo V97 #86

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:29:03 -0700

--------

All fresh uncooked foods contain enzymes for their digestion; dried grains

and legumes and such need to be sprouted to produce enzymes. If you eat a

predominantly uncooked diet, it is supposed to make it easier on your body

to heal, because your own system is not taxed to produce enzymes necessary

for digestion.  Also, they say if you eat a combination of raw and cooked

foods at any given meal, the enzymes from the raw foods help kick along the

cooked ones.



Ann Wigmore's healing program for serious, degenerative diseases is based on

the idea tht the enzymes in raw foods bring the healing.



Cathy



>In a message dated 97-09-25 03:45:32 EDT, Karen Vaughan

> CreationsGarden@juno.com write:

>

><< Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body will

> produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come from

> food sources (like papaya). >>

>

>What are other food sources?

>thanks,

>kai

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>

                         



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Lambs ear

From: gfurrow@cablenet-va.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:49:54 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Is Lambsear an herb?  If so, what is it good for.  Please tell me, I am

overrun with it.



Thanks



gary furrow

540-483-3661



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Lambs ear

From: "AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT" <SPAINAA@MORRISVILLE.EDU>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:35:17 -0400 (EDT)

--------

I think it is classified as an herb.



The "ears" make beautiful wreaths. I have made wreaths by hot gluing the "ears"

to a wreath base and attaching other dried flowers and a ribbon. The texture of

the "ears" gives the wreath beautiful color tones to look at.

-Amber



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Lambs ear

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:03:50 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 08:13:10 EDT, you write:



<< 

Is Lambsear an herb?  If so, what is it good for.  Please tell me, I am

overrun with it. >>



I only know that Woolly Lamb's Ear was formerly used to bandage wounds.



Sydney



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: yeast infections

From: Lesa Brodeur <jacoly@worldnet.att.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:42:17

--------

on another list that I am on, someone asked about yeast infections.  I

don't even know the first thing about them, but....this girl has tried

everything that the doc can think of, and also stuff like cranberry juice

(hmmmm, I don't think that would make a yeast infect better) yogurt and all

sorts of things.

Are there any herbs that can help this and what are the doses and uses?



Lesa



_ _ _HerbInfo List--Herbal Discussion Group_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: yeast infections

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:25:29 -0400

--------

Eat yogurt with an about to expire date on it. It has more

bacteria and penicillan like qualities to fight the yeast

infection.

This happens usually when doctors prescibe some types of

prescription drugs.pn





Lesa Brodeur wrote:



> on another list that I am on, someone asked about yeast

> infections.  I

> don't even know the first thing about them, but....this girl

> has tried

> everything that the doc can think of, and also stuff like

> cranberry juice

> (hmmmm, I don't think that would make a yeast infect better)

> yogurt and all

> sorts of things.

> Are there any herbs that can help this and what are the

> doses and uses?

>

> Lesa



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:54:15 -0400

--------

Fresh raw fruits, vegetables and nuts, fermented foods (which also have

probiotic bacteria) like miso, sauerkraut, kim chee, pickles, olives (the

uncanned varieties), yogurt, kefir, acidophilous milk, and live cheese,

raw milk, tempe, vinegar, kombucha, fresh herbs.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 05:17:58 -0400 (EDT) KaiforChi@aol.com writes:

><< Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body will

> produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come from

> food sources (like papaya). >>

>

>What are other food sources?

>thanks,

>kai



==========

To: creationsgarden@juno.com, HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:18:27 -0500

--------

Most raw foods have enzymes.   With all the processing or cooking, 

the enzymes get broken.    A good supplemental source of enzymes to 

use as a supplement if you eat mostly cooked and processed foods is 

Solgar's Vegetarian Digestive Aid.  



On 25 Sep 97 at 0:05 

creationsgarden@juno.com wrote: 



> Probiotics are the micro-organisms that inhabit your gut (among

> other things) and form a living wallpaper that keeps yeasts, bits of

> undigested food and other pathogens from penetrating your intestinal

> wall where it can cause diseases and allergies.  They also help

> digest food particles and transform it into usable forms.  There are

> some 500 or so species, among which acidophilous is one of the best

> known.  

> 

> Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body will

> produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come

> from food sources (like papaya). Karen Vaughan

> CreationsGarden@juno.com

> 

> On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:53:14 -0400 Bernard Kerr/Anne Milligan

> <paws-itivechoice@sympatico.ca> writes:

> >>

> 

> >I keep hearing about Probiotics.  Could someone please explain them to 

> >me and how they

> >might compare with digestive enzymes?



Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:03:54 -0400

--------

Enzyme prevents tumors from forming



                     Earlier studies showed that

sulforaphane, found in broccoli,

                     cauliflower and some other

vegetables, prompts the body to make

                     an enzyme that prevents tumors

from forming. A 1994 study

                     indicated that cancer development

was reduced by 60 percent to

                     80 percent in laboratory animals

fed sulforaphane extracted from

                     broccoli.



Gerald W. McClurg wrote:



> Most raw foods have enzymes.   With all the processing or

> cooking,

> the enzymes get broken.    A good supplemental source of

> enzymes to

> use as a supplement if you eat mostly cooked and processed

> foods is

> Solgar's Vegetarian Digestive Aid.

>

> On 25 Sep 97 at 0:05

> creationsgarden@juno.com wrote:

>

> > Probiotics are the micro-organisms that inhabit your gut

> (among

> > other things) and form a living wallpaper that keeps

> yeasts, bits of

> > undigested food and other pathogens from penetrating your

> intestinal

> > wall where it can cause diseases and allergies.  They also

> help

> > digest food particles and transform it into usable forms.

> There are

> > some 500 or so species, among which acidophilous is one of

> the best

> > known.

> >

> > Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the

> body will

> > produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and

> others come

> > from food sources (like papaya). Karen Vaughan

> > CreationsGarden@juno.com

> >

> > On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:53:14 -0400 Bernard Kerr/Anne

> Milligan

> > <paws-itivechoice@sympatico.ca> writes:

> > >>

> >

> > >I keep hearing about Probiotics.  Could someone please

> explain them to

> > >me and how they

> > >might compare with digestive enzymes?

>

> Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>





==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:37:58 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 10:09:04 EDT, you write:



<< Date:	97-09-25 10:09:04 EDT

From:	abbott@kos.net (P.Nighswander)



Enzyme prevents tumors from forming  Earlier studies showed that

sulforaphane, found in broccoli, cauliflower and some other vegetables,

prompts the body to make

an enzyme that prevents tumors from forming. A 1994 study indicated that

cancer development was reduced by 60 percent to 80 percent in laboratory

animals

fed sulforaphane extracted from broccoli.  >>



Recent studies have also shown that broccoli seed sprouts can contain 50 to

80 times as much of the tumor inhibiting chemical as the florets.  Another

affirmation of the tremendous power of seed sprout enzymes.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: silwit@suba.com (Ray Bayley)

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 02:27:12 -0500 (CDT)

--------

>Most raw foods have enzymes.   With all the processing or cooking,

>the enzymes get broken.    A good supplemental source of enzymes to

>use as a supplement if you eat mostly cooked and processed foods is

>Solgar's Vegetarian Digestive Aid.



Gerald,

Since you have experience with that vegetarian digestive enzyme

combo, I'd like to hear about you comparing it to AbsorbAid or N-Zyme-5 in

comparison (per unit price please--e.g. if one product takes more capsules

but the total price is cheaper then I'll go with cheaper).  Thanks.



==========

To: silwit@suba.com (Ray Bayley), HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:02:44 -0500

--------

Beg Pardon?   If this is an offer for a consulting job to do a 

comparative analysis, I'll send you a contract with my rates.  I 

don't sell Solgar or have any relation to them.  I have experimented 

on myself for years.  I offered advice based upon that experience.  I 

use Solgar because it is totally vegetarian, it tastes good, it 

works, and it doesn' t upset tummies.  The ones with synthetic don't 

seem to do well and I don't like the smell, taste or the way tummies 

feel when you take crap like pancreatin from animal sources.



On second thought, I don't want the contract.  Perhaps you can do 

your own comparisions.   Or do you sell Absorbaid and N-zyme-5?



On 29 Sep 97 at 2:27 

Ray Bayley wrote: 



> >Most raw foods have enzymes.   With all the processing or cooking,

> >the enzymes get broken.    A good supplemental source of enzymes to

> >use as a supplement if you eat mostly cooked and processed foods is

> >Solgar's Vegetarian Digestive Aid.

> 

> Gerald,

>         Since you have experience with that vegetarian digestive

>         enzyme

> combo, I'd like to hear about you comparing it to AbsorbAid or

> N-Zyme-5 in comparison (per unit price please--e.g. if one product

> takes more capsules but the total price is cheaper then I'll go with

> cheaper).  Thanks.

> 



Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Enzymes and raw food

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:57:06 -0400

--------

Raw foods are very useful, but it is harder to assimilate nutrients from

them, enzymes notwithstanding.  A person can absorb more from one (not

excessively) cooked carrot than many, many raw carrots.  (OTOH raw food

is a superior conveyor of fiber and vitamins.)  



In Asia raw food is virtually never eaten, and with human waste used as

fertilizer it is probably not a good idea for them to eat raw produce. 

Vast numbers of people seem to enjoy good health without any raw food. 

Their own bodies produce virtually all the enzymes they need.  Like all

dietary systems, there are sources of enzymes from fermented foods, and

this probably assists the very old who produce fewer enzymes naturally. 

But it is overstated to think that raw foods are necessary.



People who eat only raw foods are eating energetically cold food.  That

may work for certain constitutional types and in hot climates, but is not

advisable, except as a short term fast, for people in northern climates.



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:29:03 -0700 cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

writes:

>All fresh uncooked foods contain enzymes for their digestion; dried

grains

>and legumes and such need to be sprouted to produce enzymes. If you eat

a

>predominantly uncooked diet, it is supposed to make it easier on your

body

>to heal, because your own system is not taxed to produce enzymes

necessary

>for digestion.  Also, they say if you eat a combination of raw and

cooked

>foods at any given meal, the enzymes from the raw foods help kick along

the

>cooked ones.

>

>Ann Wigmore's healing program for serious, degenerative diseases is 

>based on the idea tht the enzymes in raw foods bring the healing.

>

>Cathy

>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Enzymes and raw food

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:13:03 -0500

--------

However, the better evidence strongly suggests that your body can 

produce just so much enzymes in a lifetime.  There are at least 

1500 enzymes that your body makes for all kinds of uses.  Only a 

handful are digestive related. The more you expend on making 

digestive enzymes the less you will make {especially as you get 

older} of the ones that help with DNA repair, anti-aging, cancer 

prevention, etc, etc.   It sounds like we are all in stong agreement 

that you need them from somewhere, whether its raw or fermented or 

out of the Solgar bottle. 



On 25 Sep 97 at 10:57 

creationsgarden@juno.com wrote: 



> Raw foods are very useful, but it is harder to assimilate nutrients

> from them, enzymes notwithstanding.  A person can absorb more from

> one (not excessively) cooked carrot than many, many raw carrots. 

> (OTOH raw food is a superior conveyor of fiber and vitamins.)  

> 

> In Asia raw food is virtually never eaten, and with human waste used

> as fertilizer it is probably not a good idea for them to eat raw

> produce. Vast numbers of people seem to enjoy good health without

> any raw food. Their own bodies produce virtually all the enzymes

> they need.  Like all dietary systems, there are sources of enzymes

> from fermented foods, and this probably assists the very old who

> produce fewer enzymes naturally. But it is overstated to think that

> raw foods are necessary.

> 

> People who eat only raw foods are eating energetically cold food. 

> That may work for certain constitutional types and in hot climates,

> but is not advisable, except as a short term fast, for people in

> northern climates.

> 

> Karen Vaughan

> CreationsGarden@juno.com

> 

> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:29:03 -0700 cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy

> Gileadi) writes:

> >All fresh uncooked foods contain enzymes for their digestion; dried

> grains

> >and legumes and such need to be sprouted to produce enzymes. If you eat

> a

> >predominantly uncooked diet, it is supposed to make it easier on your

> body

> >to heal, because your own system is not taxed to produce enzymes

> necessary

> >for digestion.  Also, they say if you eat a combination of raw and

> cooked

> >foods at any given meal, the enzymes from the raw foods help kick along

> the

> >cooked ones.

> >

> >Ann Wigmore's healing program for serious, degenerative diseases is 

> >based on the idea tht the enzymes in raw foods bring the healing.

> >

> >Cathy

> >



Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Enzymes and raw food

From: "P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 02:50:30 -0400

--------

Amylase, an enzyme found in saliva which breaks down

carbohydrates. Lipase aids in fat digestion. The

interaction of fat with lipase takes place in the upper part

of the digestive tract, since it works best in a more acidic

environment.

Pencreatin, derived from the secretions of an animal pancreas,

functions best in the alkaline medium of the small intestine.

This

enzyme is important in cancer research. Papain and bromelain

are proteolytic enzymes that work on proteins exclusively.

Beneficial results have been reported from proteolytic enzymes

to reduce inflammation. They can help in injuries, diseases of

the respiratory tract, laryngitis, bronchitis, pneumonia,

emphysema, viral diseases, cancer and most types of

degenerative disease.



http://www.healthwatchers.com/Zymax.html

pn



Gerald W. McClurg wrote:



> However, the better evidence strongly suggests that your

> body can

> produce just so much enzymes in a lifetime.  There are at

> least

> 1500 enzymes that your body makes for all kinds of uses.

> Only a

> handful are digestive related. The more you expend on making

>

> digestive enzymes the less you will make {especially as you

> get

> older} of the ones that help with DNA repair, anti-aging,

> cancer

> prevention, etc, etc.   It sounds like we are all in stong

> agreement

> that you need them from somewhere, whether its raw or

> fermented or

> out of the Solgar bottle.

>

> On 25 Sep 97 at 10:57

> creationsgarden@juno.com wrote:

>

> > Raw foods are very useful, but it is harder to assimilate

> nutrients

> > from them, enzymes notwithstanding.  A person can absorb

> more from

> > one (not excessively) cooked carrot than many, many raw

> carrots.

> > (OTOH raw food is a superior conveyor of fiber and

> vitamins.)

> >

> > In Asia raw food is virtually never eaten, and with human

> waste used

> > as fertilizer it is probably not a good idea for them to

> eat raw

> > produce. Vast numbers of people seem to enjoy good health

> without

> > any raw food. Their own bodies produce virtually all the

> enzymes

> > they need.  Like all dietary systems, there are sources of

> enzymes

> > from fermented foods, and this probably assists the very

> old who

> > produce fewer enzymes naturally. But it is overstated to

> think that

> > raw foods are necessary.

> >

> > People who eat only raw foods are eating energetically

> cold food.

> > That may work for certain constitutional types and in hot

> climates,

> > but is not advisable, except as a short term fast, for

> people in

> > northern climates.

> >

> > Karen Vaughan

> > CreationsGarden@juno.com

> >

> > On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:29:03 -0700 cgileadi@itsnet.com

> (Cathy

> > Gileadi) writes:

> > >All fresh uncooked foods contain enzymes for their

> digestion; dried

> > grains

> > >and legumes and such need to be sprouted to produce

> enzymes. If you eat

> > a

> > >predominantly uncooked diet, it is supposed to make it

> easier on your

> > body

> > >to heal, because your own system is not taxed to produce

> enzymes

> > necessary

> > >for digestion.  Also, they say if you eat a combination

> of raw and

> > cooked

> > >foods at any given meal, the enzymes from the raw foods

> help kick along

> > the

> > >cooked ones.

> > >

> > >Ann Wigmore's healing program for serious, degenerative

> diseases is

> > >based on the idea tht the enzymes in raw foods bring the

> healing.

> > >

> > >Cathy

> > >

>

> Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re:Live food

From: creationsgarden@juno.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:05:03 -0400

--------

As an aside, I sent my youngest son to a Wigmore- influenced naturopathic

preschool where 3 meals were provided and children were not permitted to

eat "dead food before live food".  All meals had to be preceeded by

salad, fruit, pickles or olives.  Of course he rebelled and eats

virtually no fruits or vegetables 4 years later.



A pity, since children produce sufficient enzymes to digest all the food

they eat.  And with a strong vital force, my son is the healthiest in the

family, so he refuses to believe that diet is important (at least for

now.)



Karen Vaughan

CreationsGarden@juno.com



>Ann Wigmore's healing program for serious, degenerative diseases is 

>based on the idea tht the enzymes in raw foods bring the healing.



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes<Admin Request>

From: Sam Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:28:27 -0700 (PDT)

--------

"P.Nighswander" <abbott@kos.net> said;



>A 1994 study indicated that cancer development

>was reduced by 60 percent to 80 percent in laboratory animals

>fed sulforaphane extracted from broccoli.



Hello,



I've been following this enzymes thread.  Good information

seems to be passed around.



Would it be possible to state the source of information,

in order that interested readers might have a chance to

learn more?  *A 1994 study* is just a bit vague.



Also, list members are requested to take the time to add their name 

and e-mail address to their sig when posting.  Makes it much easier

to tell who said what to whom.



TIA



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo/HerbInfo-Chat

sbrooks@earthlink.net



==========

To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: RE: Lambs ear

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:13:30 -0500

--------

Stachys byzantina also called woundwort, Lamb's ear, Bunny ear. 



An mildly antiseptic and astringent herb.  The dried leaves were used in days gone as packing for deep stab wounds (such as those made by a sword or knife) to absorb weepage, prevent infection (although they didn't call it that) and keep the upper wound open to allow healing from the bottom up.  



The flowers are loved by bees and make a good honey.



Most commonly used today for decorative purposes such as wreaths, dried arrangements and tussie mussies.  Symbolizes surprise in the language of flowers.  A beautiful silver/white element in gardens.

KB



==========

To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: RE: Lambs ear

From: "Mary Russell" <bird@scrtc.blue.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 13:59:13 -0500

--------

	I just have to ask-----What is a " tussie mussie" ?

Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

                  tomrussell@mindless.com

                  Glasgow Kentucky 



>  Stachys byzantina also called woundwort, Lamb's ear, Bunny ear. 

>SNIP<

> Most commonly used today for decorative purposes such as wreaths, dried

arrangements and tussie mussies.  Symbolizes surprise in the language of

flowers.  A beautiful silver/white element in gardens.

> KB



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: RE: Lambs ear

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:15:02 -0500

--------

Ok, I'll bite.  what is a tussie mussie?



On 25 Sep 97 at 12:13 

Kathryn Bensinger wrote: 



>Lamb's ear... Most commonly used today for decorative purposes such 

as wreaths,

> dried arrangements and tussie mussies.  Symbolizes surprise in the

> language of flowers.  A beautiful silver/white element in



Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes: broccoli seed sprouts

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 13:43:35 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 11:44:45 EDT, you write:



<< Recent studies have also shown that broccoli seed sprouts can contain 50

to

80 times as much of the tumor inhibiting chemical as the florets.  Another

affirmation of the tremendous power of seed sprout enzymes.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala >>



I saw that too. Does anyone know a good source for bulk organic broccoli

seeds? If this list does not allow mention of names, please email me.

kai



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes: broccoli seed sprouts

From: Sam Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:34:07 -0700 (PDT)

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At 01:43 PM 9/25/97 -0400, kai wrote:



>I saw that too. Does anyone know a good source for bulk organic broccoli

>seeds? If this list does not allow mention of names, please email me.



Hello List,



Don't have a problem with posting names and addresses of suppliers/

vendors whom you can recommend on the basis of past experience.



However, if one were to use the post to promote one's own personal

business/commercial venture, then that's a different story.



Contact me personally, if you have something to sell.



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo/HerbInfo-Chat Listowner

sbrooks@earthlink.net



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Enzymes: live cheese

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 13:46:50 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-25 12:22:17 EDT, you write:



[other sources of enzymes are]<< Fresh raw fruits, vegetables and nuts,

fermented foods (which also have

probiotic bacteria) like miso, sauerkraut, kim chee, pickles, olives (the

uncanned varieties), yogurt, kefir, acidophilous milk, and live cheese,

raw milk, tempe, vinegar, kombucha, fresh herbs.

>>



Well, I like all of those--but what is *live* cheese?

kai





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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: rauvolfia serpentina

From: patrici@ak.net

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:10:23 -0700

--------

Hello,



I am new to this list and this is the first time I've posted, so I hope 

this hasn't been discussed recently.  I am interested mostly in the 

medicinal and aromatic uses of herbs.  I'm also interested in history 

and in growing plants that have fallen out of current use.



With that said  - - -  Can anybody help me ????????????????????



I have two rauvolfia plants that aren't doing well.  Can anybody who has 

successfully grown them offer me some advice.  The leaves have now all 

dropped off, although the bark is still green if you gently scratch it. 

I live in Alaska and had them outdoors for the summer.  It is now 

getting into the low 40's at night, so I brought them in.  They were 

beginning to ail even before I brought them inside, so I don't think 

it's entirely a reaction to different humidity.  However, this is my 

first time with these plants and it is very hard to find information on 

their culture.



Thanks,



Patricia

patrici@alaska.net



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: re:enzymes

From: Merricat <merricat@geocities.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:20:24 +1000

--------

<< Enzymes are chemicals that help break down food.  Some the body

will

produce, some the probiotic bacteria will produce and others come

from

food sources (like papaya). >>



What are other food sources?

thanks,

kai



other 'live' foods... yogurt with life cultures, miso... and any food

that hasn't been over processed and refined or heat treated should have

its own enzymes in it - fresh fruit and vegies, for example

                               merricat :)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: re:Saw Palmetto

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT)

--------

I have heard that Saw Palmetto will help reduce swelling of the prostate

gland--my dog has an enlarged prostate.  I know nothing about the herb at all

and would appreciate any information at all.



Thanks,

Sydney

sschuy2011@aol.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: re:Saw Palmetto

From: Mmsh5@aol.com

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:16:15 -0400 (EDT)

--------

How much Saw Palmetto do you take to help a mans prostrate?  We got the

Golden Flax Oil to go with it.  But nothing said how much to take.  TIA

Silvia 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: re:Saw Palmetto

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 97 18:35:45 UT

--------

Sydney I have heard that Saw Palmetto will help reduce swelling of the 

prostate gland-my dog has an enlarged prostate.  I know nothing about the herb 

at all and would appreciate any information at all.



>From p. 305 Planetary Herbology by Michael Tierra

Saw Palmetto Berries (Serrenoa serrulata Palmacea) Is pungent, sweet and warm 

and affects the kidneys, spleen and liver energy systems. Active constituents; 

essential oil, fatty oil, with capric, caprylic and laurtic acids, fatty 

acids, carotene, tannin, sitosterol invert sugar, estrogenic substance. 

For Yin and Yang Tonics, diuretic, expectorant, roborant, aphrodisiac. Used 

for wasting diseases (TB), impotencies, frigidity and prostate problems 

(combined with Echinacea), it builds muscles, is good for colds, asthma, 

bronchitis, and catarrh due to deficiency and coldness.

Dosage: 3-12 grams (1/10 - 1/3 ounce)

He lists a PROSTATE FORMULA on page 120 [this would be for an average human 

male]

This is a mild to neutral energy. Detoxifying and dispersing, treats prostrate 

problems, promotes the reproductive cycle and strengthens male potency. 

1. Saw palmetto			(no percentages given)

2. Echinacea root

3. Goldenseal

4. Gravel root

5. True Unicorn root

6. Uva ursi

7. Marshmallow root

8. Cayenne



Dosage as a tonic; 2-3 tablets daily. Acute; every 2 hours and as condition 

subsides less.



I really enjoyed and highly recommend  Cheryl Schwartz, DVM new book; Four 

Paws and Five Directions. A Guide to Chinese Medicine for Cats and Dogs. ISBN 

0-89087-700-4

There's also a alternative medicine web site for our pets but I can't recall 

the address. I think its www.wellpet.com 



Best of health



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist 

Certified Chinese Medical Herbalist

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holistic.com/listings/HappyHerbalist.html (under construction)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: re:Saw Palmetto

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 20:12:07 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Thank you Ed for the information on Saw Palmetto and I will ask the members

of the Wellpet List for dosage information.



Sydney



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: RE: Lambs ear  tussie-mussie

From: Joy Keeping <keepjoy@hal-pc.org>

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 21:26:56 -0500

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A tussie-mussie is a tightly gathered bouquet of herbs and flowers that

expresses a perssonal message thought the language of flowers.In the

Pleasure of Herbs by Phyllis Shaudys there is a description of a

tussie-mussie and how to make them.



Hope this answers your question.



Joy Keeping



Mary Russell wrote:

> 

>         I just have to ask-----What is a " tussie mussie" ?

> Mary Russell      bird@scrtc.blue.net

>                           tomrussell@mindless.com

>                           Glasgow Kentucky

> 

> >  Stachys byzantina also called woundwort, Lamb's ear, Bunny ear.

> >SNIP<

> > Most commonly used today for decorative purposes such as wreaths, dried

> arrangements and tussie mussies.  Symbolizes surprise in the language of

> flowers.  A beautiful silver/white element in gardens.

> > KB

> 



> 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Mideival Herb Usage

From: "Gerald W. McClurg" <gwm@thc-tsg.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:02:18 -0500

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A very intersteing site that deals with health practices in the 

middle ages.  The Annenberg /CPB Exhibits at 

http://www.learner.org/exhibits/middleages/health.html



includes among other things the :



Bonnefont Cloister Herb Garden:   Discusses the uses of herbs,  

including medicinal, during the Middle Ages. 



http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medny/herbgdn1.html



The Bonnefont  page has a lot of good herb links on it at the bottom. 

Well worth the trip.  



Make sure you go to the second page on health from The Annenberg /CPB 

Exhibits page.  Amazing how maybe some of medieval medicine concepts 

were and are appropriate.  To extract, hopefuly without doing to  

much damage to context:



" Many people sought relief from their ills through meditation,       

prayer, pilgrimages, and other nonmedical methods...snip..The body was 

viewed as a part of the universe, a concept derived from the Greeks 

and Romans. ..snip..Remedies were often herbal in nature, but 

also included ground earthworms, urine, and animal excrement. Many    

medieval medical manuscripts contained recipes for remedies  that 

called for hundreds of therapeutic substances--the notion  that every 

substance in nature held some sort of power accounts  for the 

enormous  variety of substances.  {Sort of homeopathic and 

Chinese medicine style, eh?}..snip..Medieval doctors stressed 

prevention, exercise, a good diet, and a good environment. "



That does not mean it was all peachy keen though, there was at least  

as much bad medicine then as there is now. 



Gerald W. McClurg <gwm@thc-tsg.com>



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Information needed

From: Pam Neuens <pneuens@netnet.net>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:26:50 -0500

--------

What herb can be given to help make milk. I know this was just on but at

the time I did not think I would need it. I have a friend that has a dog

that does not have milk. What can she give to it to help it make milk. I

know that it was on people but thought it could help her dog also.  Thanks 

Pam Neuens



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Lambs Ear

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:47:27 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

Ok, I'll bite.  what is a tussie mussie?



I ADD:

A Tussie Mussie is a bouquet of herbs and flowers chosen for their 

symbolic meaning and given as a gift.  The traditional ones are 

circular, starting with a central flower such as a rose and building 

around that with the other herbs and flowers, then finished off with a 

paper doily and florists tape.  Kind of like a minature bridal bouquet.  

They can be used for big occasions like weddings, babyies, and 

birthdays etc.  but are equally nice for housewarmings, valentines day

or just to cheer a sick friend.



Tussie Mussie is a medieval term meaning "sweet posie". 



There are a number of books out with the symbolic meaning of hrerbs and 

flowers.  A few examples are:

Basil - hate

Bay - glory

borage - courage

calendula - joy

caraway - faithfulness

daisy - hope

fennel - strength

horehound - health

lamb's ear - surprise

lavender - devotion

lily-of-the-valley - peace

marigold - grief

marjoram - happiness

parsley - festivity

red rose romantic love

white rose - pure love

regret, repentance - rue

rosemary rememberance

sage - domestic virtue

yarrow health

violet - faith



KB



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: HERBS: Animal Flea Powder 

From: st <jtst@bsl1.bslnet.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:56:16 -0700 (MST)

--------



I found this on another list.  Hope it helps.



Zehra

---



herbal flea powder 



get equal parts of yellow dandelions and ordinary white daisies, making 

sure they're pesticide-free so as not to harm the cats.  you'll only be 

using the blossoms, so don't worry about stem length; just make sure 

they're long enough to hang for drying. the quantity is up to you, 

depending on how much powder you want to yield, but be aware that once 

dried, the blossoms will shrink to about 1/3 to 1/2 their original size.  



dry the flowers thoroughly (bunching them together and hanging them 

upside down is one of the easiest and quickest ways), until completely 

dehydrated and the blossoms are very brittle.  depending on your 

climate, this may take anywhere from a few days to a week or more.  



once dried, remove blossoms and place in a mortar, bowl, food processor, 

blender, or automatic coffee grinder.  discard all stems and leaves.  

grind or whiz the blossoms into a fine powder.  



that's all there is to it!  massage the powder into your cat's fur, all 

the way down to the skin.  depending on the severity of the fleas and 

certain variables of your cat (indoor/outdoor, active/relatively 

inactive, etc.), reapply the powder as often as necessary.  store any 

excess in a sealed glass jar, like a mason jar, for later use.  it keeps 

practically forever!



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To: <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Mallow Body Lotion

From: "Nelson" <quailrun@triax.com>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 14:18:11 -0700

--------

I have a yard full of Low Mallow. Since I can't seem to get rid of it I

thought I'd try making a lotion from it. Any thoughts or ideas of how to

extract the juice and preserve it naturally without cooking?

Carole <quailrun@triax.com>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mallow Body Lotion

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:57:11 -0400

--------

Hello,



You might try making an infusion with either water or a good quality

oil, such as sweet almond or olive.



I would suggest about 2 cups of dried flowerheads to about a quart of

water or oil. You can use macerated fresh flower heads if infusing oil.



Keep the tea refrigerated if you don't use it up in a lotion or balm

recipe quickly. It probably won't keep more than a few days.



If infusing in oil, you can either do it the "quick" way--gently heating

the flowerheads in the oil in a doubleboiler or a crock pot, or the

"long" way--by placing the flowerheads into the oil and letting them sit

in a quiet, dark place for about 5-6 weeks. Stir gently every day. The

infused oil will keep longer if you add a few drops of Vitamin E.



You can use either the tea or infused oil (or both) to make lotions or

balms.

Nelson wrote:



> I have a yard full of Low Mallow. Since I can't seem to get rid of it

> I

> thought I'd try making a lotion from it. Any thoughts or ideas of how

> to

> extract the juice and preserve it naturally without cooking?

> Carole <quailrun@triax.com>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mallow Body Lotion

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:08:14 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-26 20:36:42 EDT, you write:



<< > I have a yard full of Low Mallow. Since I can't seem to get rid of it

> I

> thought I'd try making a lotion from it. Any thoughts or ideas of how

> to

> extract the juice and preserve it naturally without cooking?

> Carole <quailrun@triax.com> >>



Would you happen to have a Latin name for this mallow?



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala

9/26/97



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Mallow Body Lotion

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 09:11:47 -0400

--------

Hello Paula,



A good quality olive oil or a sweet almond oil, such as one would find

at the market would work well. Soybean (most cooking oils are made of

this) is good for soap, but doesn't saturate well on skin in creams or

lotions.



TW



pswarner@sprynet.com wrote:



> Herbal dummy here....  what kind of oil are you talking about?

> Cooking oil?

> caster oil?  what?  thanks

>

> Paula

>

> On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

> wrote:

> >Hello,

> >

> >You might try making an infusion with either water or a good quality

> >oil, such as sweet almond or olive.



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Comfrey lotion, balm or salve

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:46:31 -0400

--------

Hello,



Any recipes using comfrey root or leaves are very much appreciated.



I have a few lotion, balm and salve recipes, if anyone is interested.

Let me know.



TW



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: menstrual migraines

From: "Barbara Bancroft" <bancroft@UDel.Edu>

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:45:41 -0700

--------

My 16 year old has a pattern of migraines during her menstrual period.  She takes Midrin, which soes help, but we'd both like to find something more natural that works.  Any suggestions would be appreciated!



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: menstrual migraines

From: Srcl354@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:32:17 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Barbara,



One of the things I became impressed with for pain is something called Herbal

Pain Relief which is an intra-oral spray.  In fact a few doctors found that

it works better than intra-oral acetaminophen (eg Tylenol). THe ingredients: F

ever Few, Valerian,Magnolia bark, White willow bark, Scullcap, Hops. Ginko

Bilboa, Kava kava, Cramp bark, Wild lwttuce, Echinecea, Cayenne, Passion

flower, vitamin B-1, vitamin B-3, vitamin B-5, vitamin B-12, in a natural

herbal base.  The amazing thing about this product is that it works in

seconds since it by-passes the stomach and goes straight to the blood stream.

You cannot overdose either and its all-natural.

Feel free to Em me at Srcl354@aol.com for anymore info.

To your health

Doug



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Violet remedies

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:03:01 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-26 21:23:37 EDT, you write:



<< Does anyone have any info about violet leaf poultices for sore feet,

corns, callouses, etc?  The British Herbmonger (online--Sept issue) had

an article but I need more details.  Carol Orwant  orwantcj@erols.com >>



There is a method where the violet leaves are macerated or crushed (you can

tear them up in small pieces, also), and then put in a pan with some olive

oil (just enough to coat them), and a little bit of cornmeal to make a paste.

Heat over very, very low flame until they soften up a little, mashing all

the while.  Cool until very warm, but not hot enough to be uncomfortable and

put on a bandage and bind it to the foot or area you wish to treat.  Leave on

for hours if you can.  Overnight would be nice.  YOu can wrap some plastic

wrap around it to keep from staining things.  This is also effective for

tumors, boils, etc.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Violet remedies

From: orwantcj@erols.com

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:17:36 -0700

--------

Does anyone have any info about violet leaf poultices for sore feet,

corns, callouses, etc?  The British Herbmonger (online--Sept issue) had

an article but I need more details.  Carol Orwant  orwantcj@erols.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Information needed (Mothers Milk)

From: "Ed Kasper" <EdKasper@classic.msn.com>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 97 06:56:26 UT

--------

What herb can be given to help make milk. .. I have a friend that has a dog 

that does not have milk. What can she give to it to help it make milk. I know 

that it was on people but thought it could help her dog also.  Thanks Pam 

Neuens



Gue ru in Chinese literally means shortness of breast (milk). [AgaIactia] This 

is a modem term translated from Western medicine but now incorporated into TCM 

as a contemporary disease category. More traditional terms for this condition 

found in pre modern Fu Ke  texts are Ru Ye Bu Zu , insufficiency of breast 

milk, Ru Ye Bu Tong, breast milk not free flowing, and Ru Ye Bu Xing, breast 

milk not moving. Another contemporary name for this disease category is Chan 

Hou Ru Ye Guo Shao or postpartum breast milk too little.



Disease Causes, Disease Mechanisms (Bing , Yin Bing Ji)

There are two basic mechanisms responsible for agalactia or scanty lactation. 

Either not enough milk is being produced or the flow of milk is obstructed- In 

the first case, it should be remembered that milk is made from blood. If the 

woman is constitutionally vacuous and weak with less of yin and blood and has 

lost much blood and body fluids during delivery or is malnourished, there may 

not be enough blood from which to manufacture milk. On the other hand, if the 

woman's qi is weak, it may be insufficient to generate and transform the blood 

in order to produce milk



In the second case, it should be remembered that the liver connects with the 

nipple via an internal pathway and that the flow of qi through the breast is 

largely dependent on the liver's free and patent coursing and discharge of the 

qi laterally trough the chest. If a woman suffers from stress, frustration, 

anger, or jealousy, this may cause liver depression and Qi Stagnation. Since 

the Qi moves the blood and body fluids, if the qi does not move, the milk may 

likewise be stuck within the breast.



Bob Flaws goes on to describe 35 formulas that would be more or less specific 

and uses varying combinations of a assortment of around 50 herbs. The choices 

can be confusing (and frustrating) but the benefit would be tailor made and 

address the cause not just the symptoms.

From Path of Pregnancy Vol II ISBN 0-936185-42-2 BY Bob Flaws pp. 213-226



If you like I could email you the various formulas with descriptive 

information but I would suggest consulting with a local acupuncturist and 

herbalist.



There's also western herbs that offer a lot of single herb choices like 

Caraway Seeds, Dill, Asparagus Root (which causes urine to really smell foul), 

Blessed Thistle, Bitter root,  Borage, [Sounds like a good soup recipe - but 

ask someone who knows western herbs]. I'll assume you'll be getting a lot of 

suggestions from the list regarding alternatives. 



Best of health to your fury friend



Ed Kasper, the Happy Herbalist & family

Certified Chinese Medical Herbalist

Free catalog upon request

HappyHerbalist@holistic.com 

www.holistic.com/listings/HappyHerbalist.html    (under construction)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Medieval herb info

From: KaiforChi@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 05:40:40 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Here is a site with good info and links:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medny/herbgdn1.html



kai

KaiforChi@aol.com



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To: <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Mallow Body Lotion

From: "Nelson" <quailrun@triax.com>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 06:19:22 -0700

--------

Henrietta asked:

<Would you happen to have a Latin name for this mallow?>

There are two Latin names. Malva neglecta and Malva rotundifolia. Common

names include Cheese Plant, Little Mallow and Dwarf Mallow. It has a

slimey/sticky juice much like aloe and is useful for skin problems.

Carole <quailrun@triax.com>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: comfrey

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 12:50:04 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-27 12:37:44 EDT, you write:



<< To Bii and Trina

I use comfrey all the time. Just made some winter chest medicine with 

comfrey, mullein ect. Do you want these kind of recipes? It is somewhat 

involved. Joy >>



Go for it.  I for one would love to see how you do yours.  It's certainly

nice of you to want to share it.



(For the newbies)

Botanical Name: Symphytum officinale

In our part of SE Louisiana, it is time to take up and plant the comfrey

roots in new areas for the winter growth(if it's mild, and it should be this

year because of El Nino), and for next year.  The plants can freeze back and

return.  Don't think it's dead just because the leaves die back from time to

time.  Remember, this is an extremely invasive plant which is very hard to

eradicate once it gets a grip.  Even a very tiny piece of root left behind

will produce a large plant or two by next year.  The plants are very

ornamental with large dark green leaves and wonderful small flowers that

bring color and interest to the garden.  The entire plant can be used.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: comfrey

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:25:09 -0700

--------

To Bii and Trina

I use comfrey all the time. Just made some winter chest medicine with 

comfrey, mullein ect. Do you want these kind of recipes? It is somewhat 

involved. Joy



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: comfrey

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:52:45 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

Remember, this is an extremely invasive plant which is very hard to eradicate once it gets a grip.  Even a very tiny piece of root left behind will produce a large plant or two by next year.  The plants are very ornamental with large dark green leaves and wonderful small flowers that bring color and interest to the garden.  

I ADD:

I just want to mention that this is a very Tall and Wide plant.  Comfrey is one of the very first herbs I ever grew.  I purchased my start growing in a small clay pot at my then local health food store.  As the plant was in bloom, I made the error of assuming that it was as big as it was going to get and planted it in the middle area of my new herb garden.   As I said, I was a newbie  ...



The next growing season, SURPRISE, my beautiful comfrey was 3 feet tall and 3 feet wide and hid everything behind it. 



Soooo.. I moved it and low and behold I had TWO patches of comfrey.  I finally got rid of the first planting by digging up every piece of root I could find ( and using it) and the mulching the spot with black plastic and 2 concrete blocks for a full growing season.  



Needless to say, plant comfrey where you want it to stay and give it lots of room. 

KB



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: St. John's Wart and ..........

From: "rosborn@cyberzone-inc.com" <rosborn@cyberzone-inc.com>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:48:17 -0400

--------

Hello all:



I'm new to the list and joined specifically because my wife and I want

to start utilizing natural remedies for ailments and afflictions to go

along with the vegetarian/natural lifestyle that we adopted almost a

year ago.



Our problem is that our oldest daughter is exhibiting signs of extreme

hyperactivity.  We are hesitant to take her to the doctor about this

because all of the doctors in our area are so willing to put kids on

Rytlin right away, rather than try behavior modification or natural

remedies.  I have heard that St. John's Wart is a good remedy and would

love to hear some comments from all of you.  I also heard that St.

John's Wart, in conjunction with another herb, is quite helpful.  Can

someone help me with this other herb?  Thank you for all of your help

and suggestions.



Peace,



Rob

-- 

Rob Osborn, sfo

rosborn@cyberzone-inc.com



Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia     St. Ambrose of Milan (ca. 339 - 397 a.d.)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: St. John's Wart and ..........

From: Srcl354@aol.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:15:48 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi Rob,

I have 2 things I would like to suggest for your daughter.  The first is pro

anthocyanidins  which is popularly called pycnogenol.  This is the most

powerful antioxidant known.  It is  50 times more powerful than  vitamin E

and 20 times more powerful than vitamin C!  Proanthocyanidins  has been known

to reduce hyperactivity in children and in some cases removing the need for Ri

tlin.  A woman by the name of Dorothy Glass told her story in  Health News

(a paper I got dedicated to natural health), volume 2 #1on page 3.  She says

" I have children in school who have  learning disabilities...ADD and ADHD

and Proanthocyaiadins have changed their lives.  They are hyperactive,

attention deficit children.  They can't concentrate, sit still, or keep from

talking.  Sometimes they are so hyper they can't eat with other kids.  But

now they are taking mineral solutions and pro..  They learn better and their

learning difficulties have decreased.   They are calmer happier children."



The next thing mentioned is colloidal minerals.  Trace minerals that we all

badly need  but are not getting and upsetting the balance of our health.  The

2 together seem to work wonders for hyperactive children.  I have had people

reported to me the positive  impact these products have on themselves.  I am

happy I can be of assistance.  I take colloidal minerals (not for ADD)but

it's one of the best thing that has happened for me.



For more info, feel free to email me at Srcl354@aol.com



Doug



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Help for Hubby

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:44:55 -0700

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Hi all! 



My hubby suffers with cold sores on his lip. Same place everytime.  Is there 

something he can take to either prevent them or is there a balm he can use to 

treat it?  Have any of you heard of BioExtract WO?  Also, he suffers from sinus 

and allergy problems and needs to be put on a supplement that will help eliviate 

some of the symptoms.  Thanks in advance



Paula

pswarner@sprynet.com



P.S.  He is at warnerra@juno.com if you have specific questions to ask him.  His 

name is Richard.  Thanks



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Help for Hubby

From: Bonnie Rogers <phdbonnie@cyburban.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 09:23:30 -0400

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> 

> My hubby suffers with cold sores on his lip. Same place everytime.  Is there

> something he can take to either prevent them or is there a balm he can use to

> treat it?  

I understand that St Johnswort applied topically and also taken

internally via tincture is a good way to heal canker sores.....



-- 

Bonnie Rogers

***********************************************************

Regional Director, PHD Products, Inc. 

"the most natural alternative food for your 

 canine and feline friends"

  http://www.pageweb.com/phd/

phdbonnie@holistic.com       800-863-3403

***********************************************************



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: chest medicine 97/Question

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:16:54 -0400

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Hi Joy,



Thank you for the recipe. About these wild sunflower leaves--can one use

the kind grown in the garden? Where would one get wild ones from?



TW



Mary Allred wrote:



> Here goes.. remember I am coming to you from Alberta Canada so this is

>

> very strong. Ingredients: Comfrey (large handful),Mullein (large

> handful), wild sunflower leaves(6leaves or so),peppermint leaves and

> flowers (large handful),wild sage(silvery leaves- not woomwood) (small

>

> handful),red clover blossoms(small handful), licorice root powder(2

> tablespoons),.



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Herbal recipes

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 97 20:34:18 PDT

--------



I too want to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and recipes and

good will toward others on this list.  I feel most welcome.



I run a small little herb farm out here in Mo. and I teach herbl classes &

such, etc.  I just want to say that I have tons of herbal recipes that I

would love to share with everyone if you you are interested.  Anywhere from

herb soap to my peppermint foot creme recipe to my arthritis rub formula

to, well you get the idea.  Anyone looking for anything in particular.



Thank you Joy so much for sharing your recipe. It sounds interesting, and

even though I do not have wild sunflowers around here on my farm, I am

going to try your recipe substituting regular sunflower leaves.  Will let

you know how I like it.



Keep up the good work everyone!

Marcia the Herbaldy

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herbal recipes

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:44:00 -0700

--------

Hi Paula, hoping your new-baby plans are going forward,



Here's how you make a wonderful herbal salve.



1 cup olive oil or pure oil of your choice

2 ounces beeswax (get it from an apiary, herb supply store, sometimes sewing

stores)

1/2-1 cup herbs of choice (comfrey, marshmallow and marigold make a soothing

ointment; plantain is good for bites and--ahem--hemmorhoids; mullein and

lobelia clear congestion; etc. etc.)

essential oils of choice



Prepare ahead of time some jars to receive the finished ointment.  Also get

out a stainless-steel pan, a stainless=steel fine=mesh strainer, and basic

cooking gear.



First of all, place the herbs in the oil in your pan.  Put over a low heat

and gently heat for a couple of hours till the herbs are crispy.  Strain

them out.  Then in the clean pan put the oil back in, add the beeswax and

melt.  Take off heat and cool for a time, stirring frequently so the edges

that get firm go back into the mix. This won't take too long, at most 15

minutes.  When the mixture starts to look a little cloudy, stir in a few

drops of whatever essential oil you like; lavender and lemon are both

delicious.  Stir well and pour into your jars.  Allow to set and get firm.

You can decorate the jars, put pretty labels on them, add a sprig of dried

flowers with a ribbon.  This ointment is a wonderful gift and everytime

someone uses it, they remember you.



You can multiply the recipe as needed.  Check out your basic herbals for

different skin combinations.  The Comfrey/Marshmallow/Marigold is

particularly nice for any kind of wound, abrasion, and irritation.



Best wishes.



Cathy

                         



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herbal recipes

From: "Lori A. Campbell" <lcampbel@mail.coin.missouri.edu>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:47:55 -0500 (CDT)

--------



> Marcia Wilson wrote:

> 

> > I run a small little herb farm out here in Mo. and I teach

> > herbl classes &

> > such, etc.  I just want to say that I have tons of herbal

> > recipes that I

> > would love to share with everyone if you you are



Where at in Missouri?  I live in Columbia.  I would be interested in

recipes for tonics and/or tonic teas - overall very healthy for your

system.  I know burdock and dandelion are very good tonics.



Some of the recipes call for Calendula oil.  I don't see that sold

anywhere.



Lori



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Herbal recipes

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 02:29:12 PDT

--------



I am not that far from you.  I am about 1 1/2 hours west of St. Louis,

between St. James & Rolla!  



Calendula oil usually has to be made yourself, unless you pay an arm and

leg for it. It is very easy to make:



steep calendula petals in sweet almond oil over very low heat for a long

time.  The long the better, but be careful not to burn it.  It should smell

like toast sort of. It is a pleasant aroma.  If you want it to be stronger,

then strain the oil off and add it back to the pan with more calendula

petals.  Up to three times will get you pretty strong stuff.  I usually

only do it once for using in my salves and soaps and such.  It is GREAT

stuff.



I have what I call my own Immune Tea Booster.  I was very ill for a while,

and to make a long story short, this is what saved me. I mix equal parts of

dried Red Clover Blossoms, Echainacea Angustifolia, Nettles, & peppermint

together.  MIx well and store in a dark colored tight sealing glass jar. 

Our family of four manages to either escape or kick right out those flu

bugs, sore throats, colds, etc.  You can adjust the ingredients to suit you

special needs.  If I am run down I usually drink 3 cups a day for 7 days,

then go off it for about 5 days. If I need it more then I start again. 

When I used to be very ill, I used it straight for 3 weeks before taking a

break and it was fine.  It isn't toxic or anything.  The reason it is a

good idea not to stay on it all the time is because it kind of builds up in

your system and then it don't work for you much.



Hope this helps,

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



----------



> 

> Where at in Missouri?  I live in Columbia.  I would be interested in

> recipes for tonics and/or tonic teas - overall very healthy for your

> system.  I know burdock and dandelion are very good tonics.

> 

> Some of the recipes call for Calendula oil.  I don't see that sold

> anywhere.

> 

> Lori

> 



> 



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: newbie

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:03:40 -0700

--------

Am new to list.Ignor date as my comp. insists I'm a day ahead. I use 

mallow in a salve made with compfrey ,chickweed, wild geranium etc. I 

live on a large farm and have large fields of untouched ground. We gather 

our herbs from these special places.This year yarrow, sage geranium were 

in good balance here- grain was the most abundant plant! I make my own 

medicines from what grows. For the girl with the toubled periods.. check 

calcium levels. I loved reading everyones letters.  Joy



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: chest med.

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 01:12:31 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-27 23:58:47 EDT, you write:



<< Bill and Trina

These wild sunflowers showed up in my herb garden. At first I thought 

they were strange weeds (amongst other weeds). I pulled them out and two 

more appeared so I thought maybe I should pay attention. They grow wild 

along the edges of many of our grain fields up here. I think the regular 

cultivated varieties might be all right too but am not really sure.   joy >>



There are so many varieties of sunflowers, you wouldn't happen to know the

Latin name would you?  Are these natives or just seeds that birds have

dispersed?  I know I got some interesting short sunflower plants (about 2 to

2 1/2 feet high), with small blooms (about 4 inches across) all around our

bird feeder.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala

9/27/97



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: chest med.

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:46:10 -0700

--------

Bill and Trina

These wild sunflowers showed up in my herb garden. At first I thought 

they were strange weeds (amongst other weeds). I pulled them out and two 

more appeared so I thought maybe I should pay attention. They grow wild 

along the edges of many of our grain fields up here. I think the regular 

cultivated varieties might be all right too but am not really sure.   joy



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: chest medicine 97

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:58:59 -0700

--------

Here goes.. remember I am coming to you from Alberta Canada so this is 

very strong. Ingredients: Comfrey (large handful),Mullein (large 

handful), wild sunflower leaves(6leaves or so),peppermint leaves and 

flowers (large handful),wild sage(silvery leaves- not woomwood) (small 

handful),red clover blossoms(small handful), licorice root powder(2 

tablespoons),.

Put in stainless steel pot, cover with distilled water and heat slowly. 

Do not boil. Keep on stove for a few days. Strain herbs and return to 

clean pot. Keep reducing this liquid to about 1/2.

Take the herbs you strained off and cover with 3/4 glycerin and 1/4 

distilled water. bring to a boil and then just simmer for and hour or so. 

I let this go for 1/2 day. Strain 

Add the two liquids together and add about 1/4 cup more gycerin. Heat to 

just under boiling and bottle.

This is very strong and you can dilute this with distilled water if you 

want.It seems to heal the lungs and expell all kinds of guk from the 

chest.

I suspect anyone could do something similar but you might find you need 

to leave out or add things peculiar to your area.

This works well in combination with anti-spasmodic tincture. Hope this is 

what you wanted.  joy



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To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: chest medicine 97

From: "Nelson" <quailrun@triax.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:18:29 -0700

--------

What medicinal properties are in Wild Sunflowers besides being such a

delight to watch as they turn their happy faces to the sun all day? By the

way, I've gathered a bunch of seeds from the w/sunflowers on my property

and would be more than happy to exchange some for calendula seed. The deer

ate all mine :(

I keep threatening myself to unsubsribe to this list because it takes up

too much of the time I should be spending outside..but it's so much *fun*.

Therefore..please e-mail me direct if you want to trade seeds.

Carole <quailrun@triax.com>



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Elderberry

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 10:07:49 PDT

--------



I LOVE ELDERBERRY.  Just had to add my 2 cents worth on that. :->    I make

elderberry jam, & syrup and dry elderberry flowers.  I worked hard this

summer to restart several new little elderberry bushes off my big one, and

I am pretty sure I was successful. Glad to see someone else appreciates

this old fashioned very useful plant.   



Does anyone here make syrup from Wild Cherry bark anymore?



Marcia the Herblady,

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780  (just finally updated this morning!)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Elderberry

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 09:10:46 -0700

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> Does anyone here make syrup from Wild Cherry bark anymore?

> 

> Marcia the Herblady,



Is wild cherry the same as chokecherry? Does the syrup from the berries 

work the same as the bark? joy



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Herb recipes.

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 10:14:23 PDT

--------

Dawne, sorry I could not reply direct to you but I accidently hit the

delete key instead of the reply key.  I will try to include some recipes or

herb ideas for children in the next day or so.  To grow Anise Hyssop is

always fun for kids because it smells like licorice.  I have lots of seeds

if you want some.  Actually, I have a lot of herb seeds harvested this year

if any one is looking for any in particular I will be happy to send them.



If I missed anyone's reply, resend it, or watch this list to see if I post

the info you requested.  And now, on with more herb talk!



Marcia the herblady,

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Peppermint Foot Creme Recipe.

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 10:15:48 PDT

--------

Here is my Peppermint Foot Creme recipe.  I also use this to rub in the

back of my neck when I get a muscle tension headache.  Peppermint Essential

Oil is very helpful for these kinds of headaches as well when rubbed "neat"

into the neck area. 



Peppermint Foot Creme:



1/2 cup water

1/2 ounce glycerine

1 ounce coconut oil

1/2 oz beeswax

3 ounces sweet almond oil

2 vitamin "E" capsules

large handful of peppermint

1 tspn Peppermint Essential Oil



Melt oils together with peppermint and simmer on very low heat for approx.

1 hour.  strain off & discard herbs.  Allow to cool off a little bit.  Mix

water & glycerine in blender.  Add Vitamin "E" to oils.  Turn the blender

on low and slowly remove the little top in the lid (so you can pour your

oils thru the little hole) and then SLOWLY pour the oils into the water. 

It will thicken almost immediately, and you will have to shut your blender

off a couple of times to stir down the water pockets.  Do this carefully as

when you push out a water pocket it has a tendency to pop up out of the top

into your face.  When all water is mixed in and the blender is still

running, add the essential oils.  Quickly pour into balm jars and seal. 

Wash dirtied dishes with hot soapy water then run thru dishwasher.   This

creme helps stimulate feeling back into tired aching feet, while at the

same time feeling cool.  TRY IT - YOU SHOULD LIKE IT!



I will send some more recipes out tomorrow to the list.



Good night,

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: herbs re: stalking the wild herb potions?

From: Bryan Smith <hedgehog@keremeos.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:02:51

--------

Hi! 

I'm new here, and looking for some practical recipes for wild herbs,

domestic herbs, etc, for creams, lotions, poultices, whatever. We have an

abundance of mullen, sagebrush (2 types), rosehips, and lots more. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.



Anna Smith



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To: <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: how to treat serious dental abscess?

From: Dan Vie <foolish@smartt.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 14:21:13 -0800

--------

Hi folks -



I need to decide if I'm going to proceed with surgical treatment of a 

failed root canal. The following raises the question if self-care is 

possible or advised in cases of advanced infection. Please excuse the 

amount of detail, I feel its needed to assess the seriousness of the 

problem.



This tooth has been causing me trouble for about 4 years. It's a large 

tooth, second from the lower back. The root canal was performed 2 years 

ago and four canals were successfully treated.  However, the tooth 

continued to abscess with gum swelling and severe and numbing pain.  

Reopening the canals for a 2nd retreatment with calcium was done to 

little effect, and the tooth eventually subsided to a sustained low-grade 

infection, with a small gum boil providing a drainage valve for 

occasional pus. My dentist had never seen a case like this where, 

although the root canal looked impeccably clean, there was a continued 

and unidentifiable source of infection.  We agreed to wait and see if it 

cleared up on its own before performing the crown.



Generally I find myself extremely sensitive to dental work and because of 

the number of fillings in my mouth I've been concerned about possible 

sensitivity to mercury toxicity, and that this could be one of the main 

compromising factors in my health and immune system.I'm familiar with the 

book "Root Canal Cover Up" as well and have been to a dentist who 

advises, based on the 'focal theory of infection', to never have root 

canal treatment and always pull the tooth.  If not, it be be a source of 

disease and cause problems throughout the body. 

I've decided to try to save the tooth but because of this long-term saga 

I've reached the crisis point on it now.



Although I don't have the strongest immune system, I still believe in my 

body's ability to heal itself. But an endodontic specialist has now 

advised me that this is impossible and that I have only two options:



1) an apicoectomy, to surgically open the gums and snip off the roots 

of the tooth, in the hope (without any guarantee) that this will remove 

the source of the infection (cost about $1000 plus the crown) ; or 

2) yank the tooth out and replace it will a bridge and three crowns 

(about $1500). Once the tooth is out, he could guarantee that the lost 

bone tissue will grow back and the area will heal.



I asked if I could not continue self-treatment to attempt to clear the 

infection. After all, this was the intention of the original root canal, 

that my body would re-heal after the infection. His reply: absolutely 

not. The condition was obviously worsening and if not treated would 

continue to eat my jaw away and potentially affect other teeth as well.  

2 years after the root canal work the problem is sustaining at the same 

level, with no pain and occassional pus.  Viewing the history of x-rays 

over the last two years show the condition has considerably progressed 

with significant amount of bone loss. 



Well, I don't buy this argument.  If bone can be lost, it can certainly 

grow back? Is it possible to regrow lost bone in the jaw area?



I don't want to blindly buy into the Western *medical mindset* of 

surgery at all costs, before attempting to heal myself naturally from a 

more holistic model.  So I am seeking advice and instruction on the best 

and safest way to proceed on treating myself with combination of 

nutritional, herbal (internal and external) plus homeopathic remedies. I 

think it could have become much worse except for my vigilant treatment 

with remedies named below.



There is some controversial theory regarding endodontic treatment.  The 

first concept is that within the root of the tooth are contained 

literally *miles* of tubules, fine tunnels where bacterial infection can 

penetrate and 'hide' for years, constant shelter from the bodies defense 

system, being almost impossible for the body to heal. This infers not 

doing root canals ever, just remove the tooth if infection has reached 

the root.



The second is the 'focal theory of infection', in that these dental 

infections affect the rest of the body and can be the source of systemic 

illness. And that even if the tooth is removed, the hole or 'cavitation' 

needs to be thoroughly cleaned or else it will continue to abscess.



I'm worried.  If I don't listen to my dentist I may be letting the 

problem get worse beyond repair. what I don't want to do is just heal the 

symptom. If that gum boil heals up and closes there will no longer be 

drainage for the infection and pressure and pain will quickly rocket. I 

want to maintain a program of complementary therapies that will include 

anti-infective, bone-healing, etc. 



Astringent herbs to draw the infection out.

Herbs to strengthen my immune system.

Blood cleansers to help the organs clear the toxins from my body.

Bone healing herbs to remineralize my body.

Or?



what treatment will most specifically address the source of infection?



the following are possible choices specific for abscessed conditions:



High doses of Vitamin C, and Vitamin A (Beta-carotene)

mouthwash of hotwater/salt, tea tree oil, grapefruit seed extract, hyd. 

peroxide 

Echinacea - antibiotic

Goldenseal - antibiotic

Dr. Christopher's bone flesh and cartilage compound internally 

(comfrey, willow, white oak, gravel root)

local application to gums of root canal tooth pack compound to draw out 

infection 

(comfrey root, bayberry and white oak, goldenseal, myrhh)

plus use of similar compound as externally penetrating salve 

Septilin (Ayurvedic antibiotic compound, and anti-infective)

Bromelain (anti-inflammatory digestive)

arnica drops (for pain)

Propolis

Calcium/magnesium

Co-enzyme Q-10

Valerian-based compound - nervine

Zinc Picolinate  - throat remedy

Vitamin E

Chaparral, burdock, dandelion, red clover - blood cleansers



The homeopathic symptom picture may indicate silicea both as a 

constitutional remedy and as an acute. Alternate being gunpowder as a 

specific for post-abscessing. Gunpowder may be better because the boil is 

aready open. It's hard to gauge my body's response given the lack of  

visible symptoms, yet this could still be considered an 'acute' condition?



I find that because of my immune system weakness, during times of stress 

my resistance is lower and the problem increases more rapidly. Sensibly a 

short mineralizing fast drinking green broths etc would allow my whole 

system to clear. However because of the change of season and my already 

being underweight I'm not sure I can handle fasting.



from the above, what would you recommend as best in creating a treatment 

regime?



Please respond to me directly at foolish@smartt.com.  (My above address 

was changed to discourage spamming).



Thanks,



Dan Vie

foolish@smartt.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Wild sunflowers

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 15:42:46 -0700

--------

I understand that a tea of the leaves will help stop the most stubborn

diarrhea. No personal experience with that though; I use homeopathic

Podophyllum when the kids get the runs.



Joy mentioned something about calendula reseeding itself.  What climate does

that work in?  We have fairly cold winters here in Utah, and I surely would

like to have it reseed.  I made a nice double-strength alcohol tincture of

the blossoms this year.  You place the blossoms in 100-proof vodka in a

proportion of 1:4 and allow to sit for two weeks, shaking a couple of times

a day.  Strain and repeat.  You can do it three times or even more as you

want. This tincture is a nice application for cuts, sores, wounds.  It

stings a little at first because of the alcohol, but then is very healing.

Can use it combined with other tinctures too.  This is a wonderful time of

year for putting up alcohol tinctures; black walnut, beautiful.



Cathy

                         



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Wild sunflowers

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:55:57 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-28 19:21:53 EDT, you write:



<< I also made some strange winter immune deffence stuff if any would like 

the recipe for that.

What do you people make for your winter?     Joy >>



I consider the best winter medicine my elderberry tincture, jam and jelly,

and pancake syrup.  Start eating and taking it from the time the berries come

in and you'll be flu and virus free all winter.  Love that stuff.  Sometimes

I just take a spoon and eat it out of the jar.  I wasn't surprised at all

when someone in Isreal made a flu-remedy from it and made a fortune.  We've

known that here from colonial times.



The elderberry is my special spirit herb and I have dedicated my herbal

studies to her . My Gypsy heart pays her homage, she is the Queen of the

herbs, my mother.



Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala

9/28/97



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Wild sunflowers

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 03:04:45 -0700

--------

To all who asked: Latin name Helianthus spp. about 2 1/2 'to 3' tall 

flowers about 4" accross.

crushed roots are applied to bruises, in a hot form for rheumatism and 

cold for blisters. Seeds are diuretic and expectorant. An infusion of the 

whole plant has been used for coughs, bronchitis, and kidney weakness. 

The seed produces a purple dye( or black) and the flowers yellow. The oil 

can be used for soap, candles, hair and I cook with it.

(Mary is my daughter's name who paid for the internet fees. My name is 

Joy)That's why Mary always shows up on your screens.

When I made the chest medicine it only tested for the leaves? so that's 

what I used.

Also, I have lots of calendula seeds. They grow and reseed themselves 

under my picture window. Will send if you want Carole.

I also made some strange winter immune deffence stuff if any would like 

the recipe for that.

What do you people make for your winter?     Joy



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Winter Immune Formulas

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 20:05:08 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hi list,

you are talking about Winter Immune formulas and I would like to know what

you would give to very young children to protect them during the winter

months. I have two grandchildren who have already had "bugs" this year.  One

is 8 months and the other is 20 months.  Are they too young to be given

Echinacea?



Sydney

sschuy2011@aol.com



==========

To: <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Winter Immune Formulas

From: "Nelson" <quailrun@triax.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:15:47 -0700

--------

Sydney writes:

>you are talking about Winter Immune formulas and I would like to know what

>you would give to very young children to protect them during the winter

>months. I have two grandchildren who have already had "bugs" this year. 

One

>is 8 months and the other is 20 months.  Are they too young to be given

>Echinacea?



Sometimes 'simple' is best. Try a little yarrow tea with a little honey at

the first sign of illness.



Carole



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Winter Immune Formulas

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:24:48 -0500

--------

I use Cod Liver Oil pills.  I have not had a cold nor flu in over 27

years.  I take it daily.  I also gave it to my daughter as soon as the

doc said she could start on regular milk and eggs and such.  She never

had so much as the sniffles in her younger years.  This I learned from

my mother who learned form hers, I gave it to my 20 year old, I take it

and now plan on giving it to my new son (he will be one on Halloween!)



Choalayna



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Comfrey lotion, balm or salve/Recipes

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:55:24 -0400

--------

Hello Laurie,



As promised.



Lip Balm



2 tsp comfrey oil

1/2 tsp beeswax

1/2 tsp cocoa butter

1/2 tsp honey

3 drops e.o. (orange or lavender is nice)

1 vit E capsule



Measure oil, wax, butter into glass or enamel pan (no chips). Melt over

low heat. Stir often til all is melted. Remove from heat. Stir in

remaining ingredients.



Comfrey Salve



1 ounce St. John's Wort

2 ounce Calendula flowers

1 ounce Comfrey root

1 ounce Comfrey leaves

1 ounce plantain



cover with olive oil about 1 inch above herbs. Heat over low flame in

doubleboiler (I prefer the crockpot method). DO NOT BOIL. Cool. Strain

through cheesecloth. Squeeze as much out of the herbs as you can.



Reheat oil and add enough beeswax to harden sufficiently. Add tincture

of benzoin of a few caps of vit E to help preserve.



TW



LAURIE L MCCONKEY wrote:



> I would be very interested in your lotion, calve and balm recipes.

> Can you post them on the list?  I'm sure others would be interested

> also.

>

> ____

> L McConkey

> XRVG21B@prodigy.com

>



> 



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: serious dental abscess?

From: Mjmoongold@aol.com

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:52:39 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Anyone intersted in alternative therapies for dental problems might find the

book   __Complete book of dental remedies__ by Flora Stay, DDS helpful. I

would highly recommend finding a progressive dental practitioner and working

with them as a partner in care. Abcesses can get very nasty very quickly.



Mary Joan

mjmoongold@aol.com



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Calendula

From: cgileadi@itsnet.com (Cathy Gileadi)

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 20:12:17 -0700

--------

Joy,



No, I haven't ever grown arnica.  Is it easy to grow?  Where do you get

starts or seeds? 



I have been doing single alcohol extracts with plans to do custom mixes as

needed.  Up till now I've done only glycerites and I must say the alcohol

extracts are easier to deal with generally.



Thanks.



Cathy



>Cathy in Utah, I live near Cardston, Alberta CDN.The calenula has been 

>reseeding itself for about 3 years. I regret to say I kind of ignore it. 

>I even dig the dirt in the spring. Nothing else will grow in that spot 

>except calendula!

>Do you mix arnica into your tincture? joy

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>

                         



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Calendula

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 07:42:34 -0700

--------

Cathy in Utah, I live near Cardston, Alberta CDN.The calenula has been 

reseeding itself for about 3 years. I regret to say I kind of ignore it. 

I even dig the dirt in the spring. Nothing else will grow in that spot 

except calendula!

Do you mix arnica into your tincture? joy



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Arthritis Formula

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 97 22:48:26 PDT

--------

This is my own arthritis formuls. You can vary it according to your needs.

Remember, never use any oil rubs containing Essential oils just before

going out in the sun. Some of them are photosensitive and can cause

problems with your skin.  If you do not know what each EO does, you may

want to research a little first.  I can probably connect you to a ladies

address that would probably help you with that if you want.



4 ounces grapeseed oil (or other light oil)

1 Vitamin "e" capsule

5 drops of the following Essential Oils: Pine, Juniper, Peppermint,

Lavender, & Rosemary

2 drops of the following Essential Oils:  Wintergreen & Cassia Leaf



Mix all these together and pour into dark amber bottles with tight fitting

seals.  Let age 1 day.  Shake before using.



What other recipes are you all looking for???? I'd be happy to try to help.

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780  (who just added Octobers monthly herbal

recipe specials)



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 01:02:16 PDT

--------



DOG BISCUITS



2 cups whole wheat flour

1/2 cup corn meal

1/2 cup packaged powdered milk

1 tspn Lecithin granules

1 tspm wheatgerm

1 tsp. salt

a few shakes  of garlic powder

1 Tbsp. sugar

2 Tbsp. vegetable oil (or bacon fat)

1 egg

3/4 cup water



Mix these together and shape into dog bones, adding more flour if

necessary..

Stick a fork through to make air holes.



Bake for 1/2 hour in a 350 degree oven.



I don't know if this went thru the first time, so I will do it once more.



Hope this helps all those little canines!

Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780 (freshly updated with Octobers herbal

recipe specials)



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: "AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT" <SPAINAA@MORRISVILLE.EDU>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:55:06 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Will the garlic powder help keep the fleas at bay?

-Amber



DOG BISCUITS



2 cups whole wheat flour

1/2 cup corn meal

1/2 cup packaged powdered milk

1 tspn Lecithin granules

1 tspm wheatgerm

1 tsp. salt

a few shakes  of garlic powder

1 Tbsp. sugar

2 Tbsp. vegetable oil (or bacon fat)

1 egg

3/4 cup water



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:00:09 -0500

--------

AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT wrote:

> 

> Will the garlic powder help keep the fleas at bay?

> -Amber



works like a charm!!!!!



Cho



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: Dara Laraway <dara@epix.net>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:36:34 -0500

--------

PROCESSOR@prodigy.net wrote:

> 

> AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT wrote:

> >

> > Will the garlic powder help keep the fleas at bay?

> > -Amber

> 

> works like a charm!!!!!

> 

> Cho



But will it work for ticks????  Luigi (my Newfoundland's name) eats alot 

of garlic and loves it (hence the name!!)  Fleas are not a 

problem.......Those nasty ticks are.........doesn't seem to work for 

those unless I'm not giving him enough garlic???

Dara



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:01:24 -0500

--------

> 

> But will it work for ticks????  Luigi (my Newfoundland's name) eats alot

> of garlic and loves it (hence the name!!)  Fleas are not a

> problem.......Those nasty ticks are.........doesn't seem to work for

> those unless I'm not giving him enough garlic???



Add a little Brewers Yeast to the food for ticks!



There is also a product out called GarlikOil that comes in a squeeze

container and is really thick.  Made especially for adding to cats/dogs

food for fleas.



choalayna



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:26:44 -0500

--------

YOU WROTE:

But will it work for ticks???? 



I ADD:

Nope, garlic doesn't seem to repel ticks.  Not much does.  Pennyroyal, eucaluptus and citronella essential oils mixed together make a pretty good all around repellant.  I put a few drops on my palms and then rub my hands all over the dogs fur.  This works good against fleas, 

mosquitos and fairly good on ticks.  But nothing works the way we wish it would against ticks except a nightly body check.

Note that cats don't tolerate pennyroyal.  Also pennyroyal should not be used on pregnant animals. 

KB



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Elderberry flowers

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 01:18:13 PDT

--------

Elderberry flowers are used in a couple of different ways.  The tea of the

flowers is used as a diaphoretic to break fevers.  It also has has good use

in salves and cremes to help with hemorrhoids & bruises. Some say it has a

lightening effect on the skin.



Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Dog Biscuits & Garlic

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 02:31:20 PDT

--------

I don't really think there is enough garlic in them to ward off fleas

totally, but I am sure it could not hurt.  It is more in the formula for

their blood cleansing & such, but ya know, if they were to eat enough of

them.....hmmmmmm.......



Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Cod Liver Pills?

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 07:42:57 -0400

--------

My cousin, David Santillo, works for Greenpeace. Amongst his scholarly

papers is one about the possible dangers of taking cod liver pills.



http://www.greenpeace.org/~comms/cod/cod.html/



If you are sure of the source of the cod, then no problem.



TW



PROCESSOR@prodigy.net wrote:



> I use Cod Liver Oil pills.  I have not had a cold nor flu in over 27

> years.  I take it daily.  I also gave it to my daughter as soon as the

>

> doc said she could start on regular milk and eggs and such.  She never

>

> had so much as the sniffles in her younger years.  This I learned from

>

> my mother who learned form hers, I gave it to my 20 year old, I take

> it

> and now plan on giving it to my new son (he will be one on Halloween!)

>

> Choalayna

>



> 



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Cod Liver Pills?

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:44:43 -0500

--------

Amongst his scholarly

> papers is one about the possible dangers of taking cod liver pills.

> 

> http://www.greenpeace.org/~comms/cod/cod.html/

> 



I have been taking the same ones for the past twelve years and no

problems at all.  I will check out the site tho but again, throughout

our family history there has been no problems whatsoever with taking

these.  My grandmother is now 96 and sharp as a tack, my mother is 65

and still loves to jetski, my daughter is a competition bicyclist and

I'm just plain me and healthy.  Thanks tho for the chance to do some

interesting reading!



Oops!  tried the addy---doesn't work----could you resend?



Thanks!



Choalayna



==========

To: foolish@smartt.com

Subject: HerbInfo: jaw infection

From: Bonnie Rogers <phdbonnie@cyburban.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 09:49:41 -0400

--------

Dan,

I just came back from the Green Nations Gathering conference and went to

a seminar with Hart Brent.

For an "infection in the bone" which she said works great with

infections in the jaw she recommends:



Homeopathy:  choose one of the following combinations:

1.  staphysagria, thyroid and asafoedata

2.  phos., symphytum and silicea



my gut tells me the second will work best for you......



for herbal she recommends what she calls myrrh formula, a combination of

the following tinctures: myrrh, corydalis, nettle root, polygonim,

chinese schizandra and st johnswort.



she also recommends supplementing with shatavari (asparagus racemosus)

and ashwagandha .  



For the chinese and ayervedic herbs 2 good sources to purchase from are

"Herbalist and Alchemy" David Winstons company    800-611-8235



and Planetary Herbs  you can find them on the internet at

http://suppplies.planetherbs.com



Good luck



-- 

Bonnie Rogers

***********************************************************

Regional Director, PHD Products, Inc. 

"the most natural alternative food for your 

 canine and feline friends"

  http://www.pageweb.com/phd/

phdbonnie@holistic.com       800-863-3403

***********************************************************



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: winter

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:01:55 -0700

--------

Thank you Henrietta,

I have tried to grow elderberry bushes here but to no avail. Too cold I 

think. ( But wild roses surround us here).

We make a simple tincture of echinecea (large handful,leaves and roots of 

one plant), golden seal (2 ounces), wild rose hips (large handful), 

fenugreek seeds (3 tablespoons).

Put in clean glass jar and cover with vodka  or good quality alcohol. Let 

sit and shake often. Strain anytime after two weeks or so. 

We have used this with very small children. If you are worried you could 

dilute this with distilled water.

This clears the sinuses too.

We make a heavier one also but am too tired to post just now. joy



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Wild Cherry bark syrup

From: irene bensinger <lirene@halcyon.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:29:50 -0800

--------

Marcia the Herblady wrote:



>Does anyone here make syrup from Wild Cherry bark anymore?

>I make elderberry jam, & syrup and dry elderberry flowers.



Hi



I have lots of wild cherry trees growing here but don't know anything about

using its bark for a syrup. Could you elaborate, please? I also have lots

of elderberries but don't how to use them. What are the dried flowers good

for?



By way of introduction, I recently joined this list having found my way

here from the Fiber Net list. My husband and I are currently building a

house (homestead) on 20 acres so we're just establishing the garden,

pastures, etc.



This was our first year on this land, so the garden is still 'becoming'. I

grew mostly culinary herbs this year but now I'm ready to lay out a proper

herb garden. I'd be grateful for suggestions for which herbs should be

included in such a garden. Space isn't limited.



Finally, does anyone add any special herbs to their compost? I use llama

manure, bedding from the goat and sheep, kitchen wastes + green stuff and

coffee grounds from an expresso stand in the nearby town, but I'd like to

be sure that I'm getting a 'balanced' compost, if possible. Again, all

suggestions gratefully received.



Many thanks,



irene



  irene bensinger   *    lirene@halcyon.com

          http://www.halcyon.com/lirene/

volunteer techie for the spinner's housecleaning pages

http://together.net/~kbruce/kbbspin.html



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:Heart Condition

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:04:20 -0400 (EDT)

--------

My mom had a heart attack last night and I was wondering what herbs are good

for making the heart of an older person stronger and healthier.  She has been

having a problem with her heart for the last several years.



Sydney

sschuy2011@aol.com



==========

To: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:Heart Condition

From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:30:10 -0400 (EDT)

--------

Hawthorn is very good for the heart.



How's her blood pressure?  Her cholesterol level?



Irena Franchi

d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 SSchuy2011@aol.com wrote:



> My mom had a heart attack last night and I was wondering what herbs are good

> for making the heart of an older person stronger and healthier.  She has been

> having a problem with her heart for the last several years.

> 

> Sydney

> sschuy2011@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:Heart Condition

From: TRAITEUSSE@aol.com

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-30 01:10:30 EDT, you write:



<< My mom had a heart attack last night and I was wondering what herbs are

good

for making the heart of an older person stronger and healthier.  She has

been

having a problem with her heart for the last several years.



Sydney

sschuy2011@aol.com >>



Dear Sydney,

I am so sorry to hear about your mother's heart attack.  You might consider

taking some stress relieving, immune enhancing herbs yourself to help

strengthen you right now.



Could you give us a rundown of your mother's general health and any other

particular problems she might have?  We would also need to know what type of

heart attack it was and how much damage to the heart there is.  Also, what

medications they have put her on.



My prayers are with you,

Traiteusse@aol.com

Henrietta Lala

9/30/97



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:Heart Condition

From: SSchuy2011@aol.com

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:37:09 -0400 (EDT)

--------

In a message dated 97-09-30 05:46:02 EDT, you write:



<< 

Hawthorn is very good for the heart.



How's her blood pressure?  Her cholesterol level?



>>



My mom is on blood pressure medication for high blood pressure and

cholesterol level is higher than it should be.  I need to know more about

Hawthorn--how you use it and how I get some.



Thanks so much

Sydney

sschuy2011@aol.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo:Heart Condition

From: "Lori A. Campbell" <lcampbel@mail.coin.missouri.edu>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:30:43 -0500 (CDT)

--------



On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 SSchuy2011@aol.com wrote:



> My mom had a heart attack last night and I was wondering what herbs are good

> for making the heart of an older person stronger and healthier.  She has been

> having a problem with her heart for the last several years.

> 

Cayenne is very good for the heart (you can buy it in capsules).  In

fact it is so good it is advised to use it mixed in water during an

emergency heart attack.  Also very good is Hawthorne Berry and Coenzyme

Q10.



Lori



OWNER:  email herbinfo-owner@bolis.com or sbrooks@earthlink.net



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog biscuit recipe and question..........

From: Dara Laraway <dara@epix.net>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:35:28 -0500

--------

Marcia Wilson wrote:

> 

> DOG BISCUITS



Thanks for the dog biscuit recipe.  I have another "dog" question.  It 

is an awful tick season here in New York this year.  I'm trying to think 

of some herbal blend (perhaps and eo blend) to spray on my poor 

Newfoundland to help cut down the ticks.  We now average about 8 per day 

during out bug checks every night.  I really don't know what to 

do.......can anyone give me some advice??



Thanks,

Dara



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Elderberry

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:41:30 -0500

--------

I also have lots

> of elderberries but don't how to use them. What are the dried flowers good

> for?

>

Elder (Sambucus canadensis, S. nigra) -- The flowers of this herb are

effective 

for fading freckles and age spots.  This herb is anti-inflammatory, but

little 

research has been done on its key constituents.  In an herbal bath,

elder 

flowers are effective in treating candidiasis.



~Use elder flowers on age spots, freckles, and candidiasis.



just one of the quick ones from the list I have.  I will look up more if

needed.



Choalayna



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Soapmaking book [was: I am Ready!]

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:57:21 -0400

--------

Hi Lesa,



Hmmmm. I'm not sure why you couldn't find it at Amazon...here's the

whole scoop on the book:



The Natural Soap Book-Making Herbal and Vegetable-based Soaps by Susan

Miller Cavitch. Storey Publishing, 1995  Storey Communications, Inc.,

Schoolhouse Rd., Pownal, VT 05261 ISBN 0-88266-888-9



Many blessings,



TW



Lesa Brodeur wrote:



> >What you need, Paula, is a good book, such as I have already

> suggested.

> >Try Susan Miller Cavitch's "The Natural Soap Book." Ms. Cavitch's

> book

> >will spell out for you EXACTLY everything you need and where you can

> get

> >it (which does not include overpriced internet vendors).

> >

> >Many blessings,

>

> Trina,

> I could not find this book on Amazon or anywhere else I looked.  Where

> did

> you find it?

>

> lesa

>

> >

> >TW

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >pswarner@sprynet.com wrote:

> >

> >> Hi Rita in TEXAS :o)

> >>

> >> I have nothing!!!  Oh, well yes, I do have vegetable oil. teehee

> >> Anyway, I'm

> >> thinking in terms of Christmas gifts and winter projects.  I would

> >> like to give

> >> gifts of soap, teas and fragranced oils.  Any help you can give

> would

> >> be

> >> wonderful.  Remember, I am starting from SCRATCH.

> >>

> >> Paula in CA

> >>

> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 1997, Max & Rita Richards <maxr@pics.net> wrote:

> >> >Hi Paula,

> >> >

> >> >Soapmaking is ALOT of fun and when you make it you can't stop!

> >> Really,

> >> >it just gets into you.  If I can help on some rcipes, just let me

> >> know.

> >> >I'll be glad to give you some and tell you some books I like.

> >> >

> >> >We also have soap molds that hubby makes that has your soaps cut

> in

> >> bars

> >> >when you take them out of the molds.  The small mold, 18 bar mold

> is

> >> on

> >> >sale right now till the last of September.  Just let me know if I

> can

> >>

> >> >hlep.

> >> >

> >> >Rita in TEXAS

> >> >--

> >> >Rita Richards

> >> >Kelsei's Creations

> >> >http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kelseiscreations/index.html

> >> >

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

> >

> >

> >> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >



> 



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: FAQ Lists

From: pswarner@sprynet.com

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:45:31 -0700

--------

Hi all!



Just printed out tons of info from the FAQ's on my soap listserv and was 

wondering if there are FAQ's to get from the herblists.  It would be a big help 

to me as a beginner to have alot of info to start with.



Just found out that there is a huge herb store here in the city, over 400 

different herbs.  The have a cool website and I will go visit them as soon as I 

know enough not to appear to lost when I go. :)



Thanks you again, all of you, for sharing your knowledge with me.  I am just 

overwhelmed with everything there is to learn.  But happy trying!  :o)



Paula

pswarner@sprynet.com



==========

To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: RE:  HerbInfo: FAQ Lists

From: "William M. Groth" <groth@rice.edu>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:17:27

--------

Hello Paula



Try URL:   http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/



Also you mentioned that the huge herb store has a cool website.  Could you 

share with us the Website URL so that we can take a look.  We may not be in

the same city but many good stores do mail order.



Thank you for sharing and we wish you good luck in your herbal endeavors

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"THE WILLINATOR"	Bill GROTH

groth@rice.edu		3110 Natalias Court

			Houston, TX 77082-3476



Some times Genealogy is my LIFE	Other times it is my Cichlids

Or my Peppers & Herbs in the Garden	Zone 9a TEXAS GULF COAST

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	

Remember, A shark is just a trial lawyer on PROZAC

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 	



==========

To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: chokecherry

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:09:24 -0700

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This morning I started making cough medicine before the frost gets all 

the herbs. 4 handfuls of chokecherries,3 sprigs horehound,6 floweresSt. 

John's Wort.  Cover berries with water and simmer for 10min . strain and 

clean pot. Put juice and horehound andSt.John's Wort in pot .Add 1cup 

glycerin and simmer for a while. Add honey and bottle. 

Any idea's what this will do? Happy cooking joy



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: Muscles sore/destress

From: PROCESSOR@prodigy.net

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:18:36 -0500

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I just started a new fitness routine (ugh!) and found this wonderful

recipe and it works!  change some of the ingredients for de-stressing!



1/3 cup sweet almond oil

3 drops lemon grass oil

3 drops coriander oil

3 drops clove oil



mix together and pour into running bath water.  Ahhhhh....also

moisturizes!



for destresssing  substitute above ingredients with:



5 drops lavendar

2 drops marjoram



also, the leaves can be tied in a muslim bag and dropped in the bath

instead or too!



Choalayna



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Re: Muscles sore/destress

From: Bill & Trina Wallace <snowdriftsoaps@gwi.net>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:45:23 -0400

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Hello Choalayna and All,



I'm going to try these. Also, I use a variation on this theme,

particularly when my sciatica acts up:



1 part rosemary eo

1 part peppermint eo

3 parts lavender eo



smells great, and feels great, too. Actually reduces some swelling for

me.



TW



PS- Glad you enjoyed that cod liver article.



PROCESSOR@prodigy.net wrote: (snipped)



> I just started a new fitness routine (ugh!) and found this wonderful

> recipe and it works!



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: jaw

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:18:16 -0700

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Herbs are great but with an abcess like this you need to do some 

serious looking in the mirror. What niggling detail of your life needs to 

be rooted out and disinfected?  joy



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To: herbinfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: heart-attack

From: Mary Allred <mallred@lis.ab.ca>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:20:15 -0700

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Sorry to hear about your mom. We have been discussing Hawthorn berries. 

Maybe it was for you. They are heart medicine.  joy



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: FAQ Lists-soap list

From: "AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT" <SPAINAA@MORRISVILLE.EDU>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:09:29 -0400 (EDT)

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"Just printed out tons of info from the FAQ's on my soap listserv and was

wondering if there are FAQ's to get from the herblists."



Is your soap listserv for herbal & natural soaps?

-Amber



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To: "'HerbInfo@bolis.com'" <HerbInfo@bolis.com>

Subject: RE: HerbInfo: FAQ Lists-soap list

From: Kathryn Bensinger <kbensin@mail.state.tn.us>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:49:27 -0500

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Paula, 

Could you share the soap FAQ URL and info for subscribing.  

KB



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Liver

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 07:45:24 PDT

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I can think of a couple real good liver herbs off the top of my head.  Milk

Thistle (I did an article in my newsletter on this herb) and dandelion. 

Later tonight, I will look up all the info for you and forward it to you if

you want it.



Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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> 

> I'm new to the list.  I'm looking for information on how to strengthen

> the Liver.   Hubby just found out his liver is slightly enlarged. No

> specific

> reason for it.  He also has slightly elevated cholesterol levels.

> Thanks, 

> Sunnie

> SunnyHeart@juno.com



> 



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To: "Herb Info" <herbinfo@bolis.com>

Subject: HerbInfo: Ticks

From: Mary Reinhart <maryr1@gte.net>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 15:34:24 -0000

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Greetings from the Northwest!!



I have subscribed to the herb line for about two weeks and finally have a 

request.  Being atrue neophite, I would like information on what to use 

as an insecticide against ticks--something that would be a topical 

application.  I would appreciate any suggestions you may have.   Thanks 

to all the many well informed participants on the info-line, I am 

impressed by the knowledge you share...



Mary



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: herbs for shade

From: "AMBER A. SPAIN, COLLEGE RELATIONS ASSISTANT" <SPAINAA@MORRISVILLE.EDU>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:45:19 -0400 (EDT)

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My husband and I recently bought a new house. The back yard is almost all shade

and is basically woods.



Other than comfrey, what herbs do well in shade/woods?



Thanks in advance,

Amber



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Help for Broncitis

From: "pculp" <pculp@mail.gte.net>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:23:17 +0000

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Hello everyone!

I am afraid I am sitting here with an awful case of broncitis I have 

chronic broncitis so this is nothing new except this time I can't 

seem to get rid of the fever which has been between 99-100 for 10 

days is there any thing I can take to help? I have no money for the 

doctor or medicine so I am hoping to find something to use that might 

help and Please don't tell me to go to the doctor I honestly do not 

have any money or I would have gone by now this is what happens when 

you become disabled you can't get SS but if your spouse works and you 

still can't pay the bills but you make to much for free or low cost 

medical help go figure must be one of the wonders of life.

Any suggestions will be appricated and thanks

Pamm



pculp@gte.net



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To: Medicinal and Aromatic Plants discussion list <HERB@VM.EGE.EDU.TR>,

HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: Re: FAQ Lists

From: Henriette Kress <hek@hetta.pp.fi>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:42:48 -0700

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Paula Warner wrote:

> 

> Just printed out tons of info from the FAQ's on my soap listserv and was

> wondering if there are FAQ's to get from the herblists.  It would be a big help

> to me as a beginner to have alot of info to start with.



You'll find the culinary and medicinal herbfaqs at:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/culiherb.html and

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/mediherb.html



At http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/archives.html you'll find the archives

for the medicinal herblist, the herbinfo list, and the culinary

herblist.



AND there's lots of other stuff onsite, too.



Henriette

--

Henriette Kress             HeK@hetta.pp.fi            Helsinki, Finland

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed FTP: sunsite.unc.edu or sunsite.sut.ac.jp

/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-medicine/

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, plant pictures, neat stuff, archives...



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: Dog Ticks............

From: Dara Laraway <dara@epix.net>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:12:59 -0500

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Kathryn Bensinger wrote:

> 

> YOU WROTE:

> But will it work for ticks????

> 

> I ADD:

> Nope, garlic doesn't seem to repel ticks.  Not much does.  Pennyroyal, eucaluptus and citronella essential oils mixed together make a pretty 

good all around re

> mosquitos and fairly good on ticks.  



Thank you everyone from myself and Luigi.........I'll try this repellant 

tonight and the yeast idea...........

I appreciate all your help!!

Dara



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: HerbInfo: appetite/cravings supressants

From: Sara Barnett <sbarnet@uvi.edu>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:20:53 -0900 (PDT)

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With all this brouhaha over fen-phen and fen-pro, can anyone recommend 

any safe, natural appetite suppressants -- or something to eliminate 

food cravings?



TIA



Sara



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To: HerbInfo@bolis.com

Subject: Re: HerbInfo: appetite/cravings supressants

From: "Marcia Wilson" <herblady@fidnet.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 22:11:23 PDT

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I don't know if it will help anyone else or not, but I use Spirulina to

help curb my appetite.  It really works for me, but it might just be me.  I

kind of have a strange body chemistry.



Marcia the Herblady

http://members.aol.com/mwilson780



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> 

> 

> With all this brouhaha over fen-phen and fen-pro, can anyone recommend 

> any safe, natural appetite suppressants -- or something to eliminate 

> food cravings?

> 

> TIA

> 

> Sara



> 





