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Subject: Re: Splinter

From: shannon@yoga.com (Shannon Brophy)

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:12:52 GMT

--------

On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:00:41 -0700, "Sharon" <bereskos@cadvision.com>

wrote:



>My daughter has a possible deep splinter- I think it is in the tendon on the

>inside of her foot. She is having a hard time walking on it.

>I wondered if there was any way to draw it out? I am already using warm

>Epsom salt baths.

>

Homeopathic Ledum is specifict to puncture wounds. Try internally,

taking the little sugar pills from a health food store, dosage of 30x

or 30c, though any is okay that is available over the counter. Can

also put some on the spot and cover with a bandage. It may need to be

removed, so monitor for signs of infection and get help if there are

any.

Shannon B.





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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:32:16 GMT

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I drink green tea iced.  Actually, I add green tea to my regular iced tea when 

I brew it.  I've also made a pot of echinacea tea when I've needed it and 

placed it in the fridge and drank it iced.  It works as well as when I made it 

a cup at a time hot.  The only thing I think about having it hot, is that you 

have the "benefit" of inhaling the steam and the comfort a warm drink gives 

you when you aren't feeling well.  That's just opinion, though.  Diana





In article <368bb9f5.11488571@nntp.pbs.org>, pdelgrosso@pbs.org (pd) wrote:

>Do the alleged health benefits of drinking green tea only apply if you

>drink the tea while hot?  I prefer iced tea, but won't bother with

>using green tea to make iced tea if the benefits won't be there.  If

>anyone knows, clue me in.  Thanks.





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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: Paul <Paul_D@waveland.org>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 15:31:12 +1000

--------

pd <pdelgrosso@pbs.org> wrote:

> Do the alleged health benefits of drinking green tea only apply if you

> drink the tea while hot?  I prefer iced tea, but won't bother with

> using green tea to make iced tea if the benefits won't be there.  If

> anyone knows, clue me in.  Thanks.



From what I've read about this, the only important thing is not to use

*milk*. However someone may have different news on this.



Pleasant Drinking.





Paul



 

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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: "Skywriter" <brucef@waw.pdi.net>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 23:18:10 GMT

--------

I lived in Japan for five years and can tell you that many people sprinkle

green tea on their food.  There is fine-cut tea just for this purpose in the

stores.  Green tea  is also a popular flavoring for cakes, pies, and ice

cream in its whole form.



The reason for this is that some of the vitamins and minerals in green tea

do not enter into the water when making the tea.  That is why many people

prefer to eat it for its full benefits.



Regards,

Bruce





Paul wrote in message <76kav0$gvs$1@quasar.apana.org.au>...

>pd <pdelgrosso@pbs.org> wrote:

>> Do the alleged health benefits of drinking green tea only apply if you

>> drink the tea while hot?  I prefer iced tea, but won't bother with

>> using green tea to make iced tea if the benefits won't be there.  If

>> anyone knows, clue me in.  Thanks.

>

>From what I've read about this, the only important thing is not to use

>*milk*. However someone may have different news on this.

>

>Pleasant Drinking.

>

>

>Paul

>

>

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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: cyli@visi.com

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:12:01 GMT

--------

Iced tea is regular tea that's put in the 'frig to cool and served

over ice cubes.  Nothing esoteric about it.  If you want to sprinkle

green tea on your food, open the tea bag or the capsule and start

sprinkling.  Neither of these is difficult to do.









On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:04:50 -0500, "Powell G and J"

<gregandjamie@NOSPAM.coastalnet.com> wrote:



>how would i make it in an iced form, hot tea. all i found is in a tea

>bags,and capsule, and about  in food. i like the benefits from green

>tea.would like to know thanks.... jamie

>Skywriter wrote in message ...

>>I lived in Japan for five years and can tell you that many people sprinkle

>>green tea on their food.  There is fine-cut tea just for this purpose in

>the

>>stores.  Green tea  is also a popular flavoring for cakes, pies, and ice

>>cream in its whole form.

>>

>>The reason for this is that some of the vitamins and minerals in green tea

>>do not enter into the water when making the tea.  That is why many people

>>prefer to eat it for its full benefits.

>>

>>Regards,

>>Bruce

>>

>>

>>Paul wrote in message <76kav0$gvs$1@quasar.apana.org.au>...

>>>pd <pdelgrosso@pbs.org> wrote:

>>>> Do the alleged health benefits of drinking green tea only apply if you

>>>> drink the tea while hot?  I prefer iced tea, but won't bother with

>>>> using green tea to make iced tea if the benefits won't be there.  If

>>>> anyone knows, clue me in.  Thanks.

>>>

>>>From what I've read about this, the only important thing is not to use

>>>*milk*. However someone may have different news on this.

>>>

>>>Pleasant Drinking.

>>>

>>>

>>>Paul

>>>

>>>

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>>

>>

>



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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:13:10 GMT

--------



You can use tea bags to make iced green tea.  If you use the little "one cup" 

bags,  I put nine of them in a heavy glass pitcher (once in awhile I add a 

teaspoon of peppermint, too), pour hot water over it, cover it with a plate, 

and let it steep for twenty minutes.  Remove bags and refrigerate. I keep 

these on hand for when I can't get to the herb store or for traveling.  Some 

health food stores keep their loose herbs for teas in a section that is 

entirely away from the herbs used for cooking or medicinal purposes.  In one 

Whole Foods store, I asked because I just knew they must have them.  They were 

practically at the other end of the store.  Why they have them separated like 

that is beyond me, but I found green tea, peppermint, jasmine, etc all over 

there.  If you use the loose herb, I use about 8 rounded teaspoons and do the 

same thing and then strain it.  I've heard that people do the same thing using 

their "ice tea makers", but I do think the "steeping time" is better.  Diana



In article <ClGj2.272$384.1863@news3.ispnews.com>, "Powell G and J" 

<gregandjamie@NOSPAM.coastalnet.com> wrote:

>how would i make it in an iced form, hot tea. all i found is in a tea

>bags,and capsule, and about  in food. i like the benefits from green

>tea.would like to know thanks.... jamie





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Subject: Re: Green Tea Question

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:53:00 GMT

--------

pd wrote:

> 

> Do the alleged health benefits of drinking green tea only apply if you

> drink the tea while hot?  I prefer iced tea, but won't bother with

> using green tea to make iced tea if the benefits won't be there.  If

> anyone knows, clue me in.  Thanks.



I drink my green tea both hot and cold.  In the summer I like to mix it

with other herbal tea for Ice Tea.  I also do the same in the winter

with it hot. 



J9





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Subject: elderberry question

From: laelsport@aol.com (Laelsport)

Date: 1 Jan 1999 02:48:16 GMT

--------

Hi,



I went into our local herbalist looking for echinacea drops for my 18 month old

who woke up with a fever/cough today.  He did not have the echinacea drops and

recommended a combination of elderberry/astralagus/red clover instead.  Is his

recommendation a sound one?



Thanks,



Leslie

CCS36@aol.com





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Subject: Re: elderberry question

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 03:24:57 GMT

--------

All three are used to treat cough and cold like symptoms.  The elderberry is 

not toxic once cooked.  Elderberry is an old gypsy remedy.  It was of old and 

still is, known as one of the "Protective" herbs.  Diana





In article <19981231214816.27632.00005204@ng29.aol.com>, laelsport@aol.com 

(Laelsport) wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I went into our local herbalist looking for echinacea drops for my 18 month old

>who woke up with a fever/cough today.  He did not have the echinacea drops and

>recommended a combination of elderberry/astralagus/red clover instead.  Is his

>recommendation a sound one?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Leslie

>CCS36@aol.com





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Subject: Re: elderberry question

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:29:07 -0500

--------

Go to a health food store and get Sambucol. It is made from elderberries,

and is great for treating colds and the flu. Also get oil of oregano.It is

quite potent. If the smell/taste bothers you, then use Oregamax capsules.

They are less potent than the oil.







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Subject: Re: How do I use tea tree oil?

From: "Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: 1 Jan 1999 03:05:34 GMT

--------

It also cured a case of headlice. Ten drops to 1 teaspoon of your usual

shampoo. Leave on 10 minutes and rinse. Do not get it eyes!



Sparrow <sparrow@itexas.net> wrote in article

<766c3s$aih@enews2.newsguy.com>...

> That is how you should use it for cold sores.  Tea Tree oil is wonderful

for

> many things!  It can be used for acne, cold sores, gingivitis, plaque,

sore

> throat, minor cuts, bronchial congestion, eczema, rheumatism,warts,

> ringworm, lice, blisters, hair growth, athletes foot, yeast infections,

ear

> infections, cradle cap, fleas and ticks on dogs and cats, saddle sores

for

> horse, oh!  the list goes on and on.  If you would like to know how to

use

> it for these or any other reason, I would be happy to post the how to's.

> It's not a "cure all" but it works for so much!  Best of Luck to you!

> Sparrow

> http://www2.itexas.net/~sparrow

> 









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Subject: Padma 28

From: Matthew <mdean@online.no>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 05:25:09 +0200

--------

Does anybody have any information/experience of Padma 28.

It is a tibetian herbal mixture containing 20 different herbs, camphor and

calcium sulphate(why it's called 28, I don't know), it is produced by the

Swiss firm Padma.It's no longer available in the US, I believe due to it

containing aconite

It is indicated(according to the manufacturers) for arteriolosclerosis.It has

been used in Poland (and I believe in Denmark) for the treatment of hepatitis.



I've searched the web and usenet and haven't really found that much - most of

what I did find is in german which unfortunatley is not my forte.



Any information would be of help.



The ingredients are listed on the label as follows:



Aconiti tuber

Aegle sepiar fructus

Amomi fructus

Aquilegia vulgaris herba

Calcii sulfas pulv., 

Calendulae flos, 

Cardamomi fructus, 

Caryophylli flos,

Costi amari radix, 

Dextrocamphora, 

Hedychii rhizoma, 

Lactucae sativae herba,

Lichen islandicus, 

Liquiritiae radix, 

Meliae tousand fructus, 

Myrobalani fructus, 

Plantaginis herba, 

Polygoni herba, 

Potentillae aurea herba, 

Santah rubri lignum, 

Sidae cordifoliae herba,

Valerianae radix.





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Subject: Re: Is this the place for Alternative Rx?

From: cham8leon@aol.com (Cham8leon)

Date: 1 Jan 1999 04:25:16 GMT

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I suspect the "folklore" part because America's strongest herb knowledge is

from folklore. You really have to go out of the country to find substantial

"medical" reseach on herbs.





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Subject: Re: Is this the place for Alternative Rx?

From: "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:03:00 -0600

--------

Not so. The Dept. of Agriculture has tested 20,000 or more different herbs

in connection with cancer and AIDS research, among others. A lot of plants

have no particular effect, whatever their reputation. A lot more have some

effect, but are less effective than remedies in the US Pharmacopoeia. Some -

look at the new chemicals used for cancer treatment - are effective and have

been or are being tested for toxicity. Some are so toxic that they should

not be used in any dose by anybody.

The problem with herbal remedies is that they are not tested objectively, to

see if they actually have the result they are said to have. Also the

available compounds may not have what the label says, look at the recent

scandal about St. John's wort pills containing less than half the dose they

claim to have!









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Subject: Re: Is this the place for Alternative Rx?

From: katyoc@hotmail.com

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:19:57 GMT

--------

In article <76lgh4$b3j$1@news.inc.net>,

  "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com> wrote:

> Not so. The Dept. of Agriculture has tested 20,000 or more different herbs

> in connection with cancer and AIDS research, among others. A lot of plants

> have no particular effect, whatever their reputation. A lot more have some

> effect, but are less effective than remedies in the US Pharmacopoeia. Some -

> look at the new chemicals used for cancer treatment - are effective and have

> been or are being tested for toxicity. Some are so toxic that they should

> not be used in any dose by anybody.

> The problem with herbal remedies is that they are not tested objectively, to

> see if they actually have the result they are said to have. Also the

> available compounds may not have what the label says, look at the recent

> scandal about St. John's wort pills containing less than half the dose they

> claim to have!



I'm not familiar with this scandal and am interested in getting more info

about it for a paper that I'm writing.	Do you know any details--what

manufacturer? how it was discovered, etc? Thanks! Katy



>

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Subject: Re: Is this the place for Alternative Rx?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 14:36:03 GMT

--------

>Not so. The Dept. of Agriculture has tested 20,000 or more different herbs

>in connection with cancer and AIDS research, among others. A lot of plants

>have no particular effect, whatever their reputation. A lot more have some

>effect, but are less effective than remedies in the US Pharmacopoeia. Some -

>look at the new chemicals used for cancer treatment - are effective and have

>been or are being tested for toxicity. Some are so toxic that they should

>not be used in any dose by anybody.

>The problem with herbal remedies is that they are not tested objectively, to

>see if they actually have the result they are said to have. Also the

>available compounds may not have what the label says, look at the recent

>scandal about St. John's wort pills containing less than half the dose they

>claim to have!



Ahh there we have it. The pills were half the dose, I'm sure St J's is still

100% the dose!



To the best of my knowledge the "active" ingredient is isolated from the rest

of the plant and tested. There are those of us who believe that the whole plant

is what does the job. The isolated ingredient doesn't necessarily work that

well without the rest.



Belinda







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Subject: Re: Is this the place for Alternative Rx?

From: "Marvin L. Zinn" <marvinlzinn@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 4 Jan 1999 22:42:45 GMT

--------

Belinda,



In article <19990104093603.00857.00007117@ng-fi1.aol.com>, LEvans1044 wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge the "active" ingredient is isolated from the rest

> of the plant and tested. There are those of us who believe that the whole plant

> is what does the job. The isolated ingredient doesn't necessarily work that

> well without the rest.

>

    I wish there were more people who understood this. It is the basic advantage 

of natural methods of healing over drugs. The "active" ingredient may be useless 

alone, and/or the other ingredients may prevent side effects, but medical 

scientists seems to ignore these basic, obvious principles.

    

                                                    marvinlzinn







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Subject: Re: mullein

From: juniper@home.comnospam

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:35:02 GMT

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Digitalis is foxglove as far as I know, a very POWERFUL and potentially

deadly heart medicine







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Subject: Re: mullein

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 21:18:35 GMT

--------

>>does anyone know if mullein (hope I'm spelling it right- don't have my

>>book here)_ has particularly distinctive leaves, or if it can be easily

>>confused with any other herbs?  Thanks.

>

>It can VERY easily be confused with Digitalis leaves, in the first year, and

>in

>the second year before the flowerstalk is tall enough. 

>Digitalis is DIDDLY poison.

>

>Cheers

>Henriette



Aren't Digitalis leaves much less fuzzy than Mullein (Verbascum thapus)? To me

Digitalis looks more like Comfrey (Symphytum officinale). 



Belinda







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Subject: Re: mullein

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 07:29:14 GMT

--------

On 4 Jan 1999 21:18:35 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>>It can VERY easily be confused with Digitalis leaves, in the first year, and in

>>the second year before the flowerstalk is tall enough. 

>>Digitalis is DIDDLY poison.

>

>Aren't Digitalis leaves much less fuzzy than Mullein (Verbascum thapus)? To me

>Digitalis looks more like Comfrey (Symphytum officinale). 



Mullein is not only one species, it's the whole genus of Verbascum. Over here I

can take my pick of three to four common species, among them Verbascum nigrum,

which is NOT fuzzy.



Comfrey on the other hand is quite prickly.



Cheers

Henriette



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Subject: Re: mullein

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:41:11 -0500

--------

Henriette Kress wrote in message <3692bec4.642038@uutiset.saunalahti.fi>...

>On 4 Jan 1999 21:18:35 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote in

>alt.folklore.herbs:

>

>>Aren't Digitalis leaves much less fuzzy than Mullein (Verbascum thapus)?

To me

>>Digitalis looks more like Comfrey (Symphytum officinale).

>

>Mullein is not only one species, it's the whole genus of Verbascum. Over

here I

>can take my pick of three to four common species, among them Verbascum

nigrum,

>which is NOT fuzzy.





But the species most commonly mentioned in herbals is V. thapsus, which is

so fuzzy it has been used as an absorbant, i.e. diaper lining, or

womens...thingy. <blush>  Are the others known to posess the same

properties?  I know that the yellow flowers of V.t. are used in medicine,

and more and more we are finding that the active compounds are in some

instances the actual pigments or recursors (e.g. billberry, marigold, etc.)

Some of the Verbascum species and varieties don't even have yellow flowers.



>Comfrey on the other hand is quite prickly.





Not mine!  I use Symphytum officinale, which has no prickles at all!



OTOH, you are quite right to advise caution regarding other species of

Verbascum.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mullein

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:30:58 GMT

--------

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:41:11 -0500, "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>>Mullein is not only one species, it's the whole genus of Verbascum. Over here I

>>can take my pick of three to four common species, among them Verbascum nigrum,

>>which is NOT fuzzy.

>

>But the species most commonly mentioned in herbals is V. thapsus, which is



You can use most any Verbascum sp. for what Verbascum does. No need to restrict

yourself to one species - they all work.



Henriette



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To: Hendrik Woolf <hendrikwoolf@email.msn.com>

Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: coneron <coneron@cdsnet.net>

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 21:33:16 -0800

--------

Hendrik Woolf wrote:

...deleted for brevity...

> Does anyone know a cure or prevention for the cracking of the skin on my

> fingers and thumbs in cold weather? ...deleted for brevity...

============================================



i live in a cold, dry clime and had problems with skin crack until i

discovered lanolin. drinking *lots and lots* of water is a great big

help. here's a recipe for lip balm i found on one of the millions of

craft sites that works best for me. i use it for the interior of my

nose, my lips and my hands. a little bit goes a very long way! all my

friends have started using this and found it really helps with a

variety of dry skin problems.



supplies:

small jar (like the little ones pimentos come in)

small saucepan filled with enough water to come up to the "shoulder"

on the jar

1 tablespoon beeswax, grated or shaved (it'll melt easier and more

quickly)

1 tablespoon  petroleum jelly (i like vaseline best - smoothest

texture)

1 tablespoon  lanolin

1 tablespoon  honey

3-6 drops camphor essential oil (or peppermint or wintergreen

essential oils)

tongs

hot pad glove (or whatever works for you to hold the jar)

craft or popsicle stick (or something you can stir with and throw

away)



directions:

1.  place saucepan of water on the stove and bring just to the boil -

then turn down so it stays at that level.

2.  place beeswax in your jar and place the jar in the water. be

careful not to get any water into the jar during this whole process.

3.  when the wax melts, add the petroleum jelly

4.  when the jelly melts, add the lanolin

5.  when the lanolin melts, add the honey

6.  when the honey melts, add the essential oil (use your nose to tell

you how strong you want it.

7.  put the hot pad glove on your "off" hand (if you're left handed,

this would be your right hand)

8.  using the tongs, carefully lift out jar (this is the hard part!)

and set it into the palm of the hot pad glove

9.  set down the tongs and pick up the popsickle stick and stir

NONSTOP until the mixture thickens a lot. it'll take about 5min or so.

(you can quicken the pace if you like immediate results by placing the

jar into a bowl of ice.)

10. test it by spreading a VERY SMALL amount onto your lips(about what

will fit in your baby fingernail if you use it for a scoop).

11. if it needs any adjusting, simply place the jar back into the pot

of water and let it melt again

12. if it still smells strongly of lanolin, add more beeswax

13. if it tastes nasty, add more honey and/or beeswax

14. if it's too thick or hard, add more jelly

15. if it doesn't feel velvety smooth when it goes on, add more

lanolin

16. repeat steps 7-10 until you have it the way you want it. it must

feel really good when it goes on - your skin will almost sigh with

pleasure. the lanolin and camphor are the magic ingredients in this

salve.

17. put a lid on it and drop it into a coat pocket or purse so it's

with you all the time.



i scrape about 1/8 tsp out with my fingernail and spread it on my

hands. all i need to do for my nose and lips is rummage in it with a

fingertip for a thin layer. one bottle should last you about a decade!



by the way - i've had doctors recommend superglue for bleeding cracks

- especially for feet (for those of us who just can't live without

going barefoot in the summertime). the skin will grow closed from the

bottom to the top and eventually squeeze the superglue out. i've never

used it because of my concern for toxicity, but the idea of an

alternative "superglue" from the pharmacy section is a *real* good

one.

====================================





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: michael brown <mbrown@kih.net>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 03:56:01 -0500

--------

> by the way - i've had doctors recommend superglue for bleeding cracks

> - especially for feet (for those of us who just can't live without

> going barefoot in the summertime). the skin will grow closed from the

> bottom to the top and eventually squeeze the superglue out. i've never

> used it because of my concern for toxicity, but the idea of an

> alternative "superglue" from the pharmacy section is a *real* good

> one.

> ====================================



tell me more about the pharmacy superglue PLEASE! Both of my thumbs

split at the tip on the side nearest the index finger, right where the

nail exits the skin.  VERY PAINFUL!!!



I keep lotion on them all the times, have tried everything, they get a

little better, then split right back again.... this superglue stuff

sounds like something that might work...



seeya!

-- 

regards,

>>>> NOTE: REMOVE THE TIREDOFSPAM IN THE RETURN ADDRESS TO REPLY! <<<<

michael brown

mbrownTIREDOFSPAM@kih.net





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To: Bart Lidofsky <nyts@dorsai.org>

Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: "C.J. LEE" <lml@cstonedesign.com>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 17:01:26 -0600

--------

Bart Lidofsky wrote:



> In article

> <nYli2.122$p3.1812988@news.premier1.net>, "yew"

> wrote:

> >As for Crazy Glue. . .I wouldn't recommend it.

> The stuff is nasty

> >toxic.

>

>         Absolutely second that. However, one of

> the early uses for the

> product WAS in the Viet Nam war (it was invented

> in 1957, but the Eastman

> Corporation deemed it too dangerous to

> distribute to the general public;

> in 1974, when the patent ran out, it became

> widely distributed), where it

> was used as an alternative for stitching when

> the skin was torn, but still

> there. It left minimal scarring. Medical grade

> "superglue" (OK, so I can't

> spell the technical name) is sold over the

> counter in pharmacies as

> "Liquid Bandage" and others.

>

> --

>         Bart Lidofsky

>         Systems Administrator

>         New York Theosophical Society

>         nyts@dorsai.org (official)

>         bartl@sprynet.com (personal)







I work in the sheet metal trade and super glue is

excellent  for closing sheet metal cuts, and I

think that it would also work good for paper cuts.

Hafta disagree on the liquid bandage thing though,

the stuff I have has got to be the same as clear

nail polish. Also, as I understand it, super glue

was invented by surgeons to glue internal organs

back together, but that's only heresay.

CJ LEE







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Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: freebyte <freebyte@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:35:57 GMT

--------

I have a little Vitamin E oil stick, like a lipstick, that I used out of

desperation on my hands where I was getting patches of peeling.  It

worked well and very quickly.





C.J. LEE wrote:



> Bart Lidofsky wrote:

>

> > In article

> > <nYli2.122$p3.1812988@news.premier1.net>, "yew"

> > wrote:

> > >As for Crazy Glue. . .I wouldn't recommend it.

> > The stuff is nasty

> > >toxic.

> >

> >         Absolutely second that. However, one of

> > the early uses for the

> > product WAS in the Viet Nam war (it was invented

> > in 1957, but the Eastman

> > Corporation deemed it too dangerous to

> > distribute to the general public;

> > in 1974, when the patent ran out, it became

> > widely distributed), where it

> > was used as an alternative for stitching when

> > the skin was torn, but still

> > there. It left minimal scarring. Medical grade

> > "superglue" (OK, so I can't

> > spell the technical name) is sold over the

> > counter in pharmacies as

> > "Liquid Bandage" and others.

> >

> > --

> >         Bart Lidofsky

> >         Systems Administrator

> >         New York Theosophical Society

> >         nyts@dorsai.org (official)

> >         bartl@sprynet.com (personal)

>

> I work in the sheet metal trade and super glue is

> excellent  for closing sheet metal cuts, and I

> think that it would also work good for paper cuts.

> Hafta disagree on the liquid bandage thing though,

> the stuff I have has got to be the same as clear

> nail polish. Also, as I understand it, super glue

> was invented by surgeons to glue internal organs

> back together, but that's only heresay.

> CJ LEE











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:48:34 GMT

--------

Gleason Pace wrote:

> 

> On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:23 -0000, "Hendrik Woolf"

> <hendrikwoolf@email.msn.com> wrote:

> 

> >Hello there

> >

> >Does anyone know a cure or prevention for the cracking of the skin on my

> >fingers and thumbs in cold weather? I do try to wear gloves when I go out,

> >but I get caught out sometimes unexpectedly. I do rub special creams in from

> >time to time when I can remember to do so. It is a very painful condition

> >and sometimes bleeding occurs, as if I have cut myself with a blade.

> > 



I have the same problem with the cold weather.  I use the Hylands

Calendula spray frequently during the day.  My hands stay soft and

smooth while I use it.  I also make sure I drink a lot of water every

day that helped to lessen the severity of the cracks.  My 7 year old

son  now gets the skin cracks on his knuckles and the spray has really

helped him.



J9





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Skincrack

From: mul211@aol.com (Mul211)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 14:05:16 GMT

--------

i use a fingertip bandage on the sore tip. soak the bandage with water and keep

it on for 2 days. the skin will have healed by then.



this is a cheap and easy treatment.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How about time of harvest?

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 07:20:32 GMT

--------

On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:10:59 -0500, "Rafal Swiecki, p.eng."

<eldorado@minelinks.com> wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>I am talking about hyperycine which is similar to hematoporphyrine and which makes

>HUMANS as well as cows (any farmer know that) and other animals sensitive to

>ultraviolet part of light spectrum.



Read again. You -were- talking about St. John's wort (Herbal Hyperici), which is

the plant. NOW you are talking about hypericin, which is one single constituent.



It is widely known that the pure constituent gives photosensitivity to humans. 



What you might not know is that the whole plant does not. Unless we're talking

extremely sensitive people, or synergy with allopathic medications. The whole

plant might give photosensitivity to sheep, cattle, and whatnot, but NOT to

people.



>Alcohol extract hyperycine. That why water extracts are recommended. I suggest you

>check some reliable sources next time.



Hypericin might be extracted with alcohol, but unless you then purify that

single constituent and use it that way the tincture will not give

photosensitivity to humans. Why not? Because you get a whole litter of

constituents in the tincture, not only hypericin.



You could try to read the entry in the medicinal herbfaq Hypericum and

photosensitivity. You could also try to talk to people who use whole plants

instead of single purified constituents. Like the people on this newsgroup.



>Just because, I am looking at more than chemical side of plants... it does not makes

>me a fool in chemistry of plants as well.



Neither you nor I said anything about chemistry in our previous exchange. You

gave an impossible picking schedule, and I gave picking parameters which work,

everywhere. If that got your goat, shrug.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: How about time of harvest?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:47:45 GMT

--------

"Rafal Swiecki, p.eng." <eldorado@minelinks.com> wrote:



>Well....

>Everybody knows about St. Johns Worth (Herba Hyperici)... but how many

>harvest it in the morning of Summer Solstice?

>Even the name suggests it: St. John's day is on Summer Solstice. The plant

>when ingested will make you sunlight sensitive... 

  This has NOT been reported in the medical literature.  The

reported human photosensitivity was in persons taking LARGE (very

large) doses of a purified extract with large quantities of

hypericin in it.  Cattle and sheep will often develop

photosensitivity if they are grazing on pastures with abundant

SJW, but consider the amount of herb they consume compared to

what a human does.  A sheep takes in mor in a single mouthful

than a human would comsume in a week.



>while most is sold in

>capsules only tea is safe...

  This is unadulterated pasture plop! 







Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

We're just a bunch of typed letters on a screen and we hope none of us is seriously deranged!





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Subject: Re: How about time of harvest?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:34:38 -0500

--------

Tsu Dho Nimh wrote in message <368cc326.745918@news.primenet.com>...

>

>  This has NOT been reported in the medical literature.  The

>reported human photosensitivity was in persons taking LARGE (very

>large) doses of a purified extract with large quantities of

>hypericin in it.  Cattle and sheep will often develop

>photosensitivity if they are grazing on pastures with abundant

>SJW, but consider the amount of herb they consume compared to

>what a human does.  A sheep takes in mor in a single mouthful

>than a human would comsume in a week.





Ah, FINALLY a voice of reason enters the argument!



>>while most is sold in

>>capsules only tea is safe...

>  This is unadulterated pasture plop!

>

>Tsu Dho Nimh





Kudos.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How about time of harvest?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:32:35 -0500

--------

ma pickle > wrote in message ...

>Henriette said it so much better that I can but I wnat to add my 2 cents as

>well. As far as St John's Wort goes whole plant tincture is the way to go

>(Christopher Hobbs also says this in his book on SJW)  I am very suspect of

>these "standardized herbs" since herbs are more than a single constituent.

>And when we start making them into "allopathics" then we start finding

>problems.





Ai-yi-yi! Here we go again with the standardization BS.  Look, folks,

"standardization" does NOT mean extraction, it does NOT mean isolation or

purification.  It merely means the contents of the capsule have been tested

and are guaranteed to contain a certain quantity or concentration of either

the principle active component or of a "marker" compound (when there may be

several active components) to ensure you're not just swallowing sawdust.

It's not some kind of freaking conspiracy!  It's a way of protecting the

consumers who can't just look at a sealed bottle of capsules and psychically

"know" whether the herbs inside are any good.



Let me spell it out; a "whole plant tincture" can STILL be standardized!



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Cactus cure for type 2 Diabetes

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 07:20:39 GMT

--------

On 31 Dec 1998 18:11:11 GMT, MARCELLA <marcie@worldnet.att.net> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Does anybody know the name of the Mexican cactus that is commonly used

>in Mexico to treat  Tpe 2 Diabetes? Thanx M. Graham



Opuntia is hypoglycemic. Don't know if that's what you mean. And perhaps you

want cholla buds, but you can also eat the (de-spinified) pads of the

flat-padded species.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Cactus cure for type 2 Diabetes

From: SABERTOOTH <sabertoothed@hotmail.comNOSPAM>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:58:12 -0800

--------

MARCELLA wrote:

> 

> Does anybody know the name of the Mexican cactus that is commonly used

> in Mexico to treat  Tpe 2 Diabetes? Thanx M. Graham



Nopal

(pronounced no-pahl)



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Subject: Re: Cactus cure for type 2 Diabetes

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:14:00 GMT

--------

On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:58:12 -0800, SABERTOOTH <sabertoothed@hotmail.comNOSPAM>

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>> Does anybody know the name of the Mexican cactus that is commonly used

>> in Mexico to treat  Tpe 2 Diabetes? Thanx M. Graham

>Nopal

>(pronounced no-pahl)



That -is- Opuntia sp.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Cactus cure for type 2 Diabetes

From: dhdonna@aol.com (DH Donna)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:53:49 GMT

--------

You might ask the California School for Traditional Hispanic Herbalism, at  





Also suggest doing search at www.metacrawler.com for 'hispanic' and

'herbalism'... there are more links there.



Best wishes!



Donna





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Cactus cure for type 2 Diabetes

From: dhdonna@aol.com (DH Donna)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:54:29 GMT

--------

Don't know if the url was sent when that went out... Cal. school of traditional

hispanic herbalism is at http://home.earthlink.net/~corinroyal/





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Subject: Re: Herbs to stop smoking

From: "Terri" <abigale@value.net>

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:50:31 -0800

--------

Cutting back from what you used to smoke is a tremendous step in itself.  It

appears from what you've written, that you truly desire to be smoke free,

and that is something to be quite proud of.



Here in California, the prices of ciggies is going up to $3.00 per pack (a

.50 increase).  This takes place tonight at midnight in most of the small

ciggie shops.



The price is a reason in itself to give up the habit, the addiction on the

other hand could be a reason to exercise some money saving techniques in

other areas however.



Today, is my (I'm hoping) last day of relying on nicotine to substantiate

synthetic euphoria.



If at first you don't succeed, try try again.



Terri

Paula Bannerman wrote in message <368938E7.F7A78DDA@odyssey.on.ca>...

>ma pickle wrote:

>>

>> <<The idea is that I am no longer

>> endangering the health of my husband and my animals....and that is my

>> motivation. >>

>>

>> How about your own health?

>

>That goes without saying...yet has of yet not motivated me to quit until

>recently. I should as well add that I am as well walking 1 hour or so

>aday and have been eating alot more healthily for the past 2 years. The

>quit smoking is the last of my goals towards a healthier lifestyle...and

>one of the more difficult.

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Paula Bannerman - pbannerman@odyssey.on.ca

>   http://www.odyssey.on.ca/~pbannerman

>"Ar scth a cheile a mhaoireas na daoine."

>(Together we live in each other's shadow.)

>           Old Irish Wisdom









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Subject: Re: Herbs to stop smoking

From: "BJF" <doa1@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 02:11:51 GMT

--------

St John's Wort might help for those who want to quit smoking... Doctors

recently realized that treating patients

who want to quit smoking using a mild antidepressant really works... They

took wellbutrin and re introduced it as ZYBAN in a big money marketing

campaign as the smoking cessation program that really works...

And it does,from what I heard-not without the side effects associated with

antidepressant medication...

(Wellbutrin is the generic form of zyban) Ironically a a well known HMO

covers wellbutrin but doesn't cover

ZYBAN... Nicotine withdrawel is associated with sever panic attacks and

depression, treating smoking cessation with preparations which alleviate

these symptoms is the only way to go... I'm surprised that doctors couldn't

figure this one out before introducing those riduculous nicotine gums and

patches!  Hey, the drug companies need to make money on this  :-)....

All aside, I would suspect that St John's Wort would be a helpful addition

to help cut the edge during nicotine withdrawel for those who don't need the

added anxiety of fighting with the insurance companies...

Terri wrote in message <76huu2$o9r$1@vnetnews.value.net>...

>Cutting back from what you used to smoke is a tremendous step in itself.

It

>appears from what you've written, that you truly desire to be smoke free,

>and that is something to be quite proud of.

>

>Here in California, the prices of ciggies is going up to $3.00 per pack (a

>.50 increase).  This takes place tonight at midnight in most of the small

>ciggie shops.

>

>The price is a reason in itself to give up the habit, the addiction on the

>other hand could be a reason to exercise some money saving techniques in

>other areas however.

>

>Today, is my (I'm hoping) last day of relying on nicotine to substantiate

>synthetic euphoria.

>

>If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

>

>Terri

>Paula Bannerman wrote in message <368938E7.F7A78DDA@odyssey.on.ca>...

>>ma pickle wrote:

>>>

>>> <<The idea is that I am no longer

>>> endangering the health of my husband and my animals....and that is my

>>> motivation. >>

>>>

>>> How about your own health?

>>

>>That goes without saying...yet has of yet not motivated me to quit until

>>recently. I should as well add that I am as well walking 1 hour or so

>>aday and have been eating alot more healthily for the past 2 years. The

>>quit smoking is the last of my goals towards a healthier lifestyle...and

>>one of the more difficult.

>>

>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>Paula Bannerman - pbannerman@odyssey.on.ca

>>   http://www.odyssey.on.ca/~pbannerman

>>"Ar scth a cheile a mhaoireas na daoine."

>>(Together we live in each other's shadow.)

>>           Old Irish Wisdom

>

>









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Subject: Essential Oils - Steam Distillation

From: d <sweetgrass@earthlink.net>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 09:37:02 +0000

--------

Is it possible/practical to do steam distillation from the fresh herb at home?

 Is the equipment commercially marketed for small operations?  Does anyone

know how one could put it together or where one could purchase such equipment?



-d



Richard Ogden wrote:



> Most essential oils, including the three you mention, are generally obtained

> by steam distillation of the herb: water is heated to steam, the steam is

> passed through the herb, the resultant vapors are condensed, the oils are

> skimmed off the water, and the water which is saturated with the herb oils

> is returned to the pot to reuse or is sold separately.







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Subject: Re: Essential Oils - Steam Distillation

From: "Tigger" <Sparkly_3@hotmail.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:27:41 +1300

--------



Here is a free thing you can do:) and its FUN!!!



Place in a stainless pot enough  pebbles to have about 2 " on the bottom.

Cover with water, . Place wide-mouthed bowl on top of pebbles.  sprinkle on

top of water petals of your choice. now place lid on top *inverted* and fill

with ice. As the water heats, the ice cools and it drips down off the handle

into the bowl. MUST use lid with metal handle or will get plastic flavoured

water. Cheap easy - lots of fun.



Simply Essential- The Herpes Alternative

SkinFix for aggravated, Itchy skin Problems

www.essential-nz.com



Graham Sorenson wrote in message ...

>In article <368C973E.BAFF2D8B@earthlink.net>, d

><sweetgrass@earthlink.net> writes

>>Is it possible/practical to do steam distillation from the fresh herb at

home?

>> Is the equipment commercially marketed for small operations?  Does anyone

>>know how one could put it together or where one could purchase such

>>equipment?

>

>Small equipment is available. See http://theperfumery.com Rob Pappas

>has a good piece of kit just for this purpose.

>

>

>

>

>>

>>-d

>>

>>Richard Ogden wrote:

>>

>>> Most essential oils, including the three you mention, are generally

obtained

>>> by steam distillation of the herb: water is heated to steam, the steam

is

>>> passed through the herb, the resultant vapors are condensed, the oils

are

>>> skimmed off the water, and the water which is saturated with the herb

oils

>>> is returned to the pot to reuse or is sold separately.

>>

>

>--

>Graham Sorenson

>The Guide to Aromatherapy and nearly 600 links to other Aromatherapy sites

>Hundreds of links to alternative health sites

http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/

>The Natural Oils Research Association site http://www.acemake.com/NORA/









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Essential Oils - Steam Distillation

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 06:44:58 GMT

--------

>Small equipment is available. See http://theperfumery.com Rob Pappas

>>has a good piece of kit just for this purpose.

>>

>>



For equipment with a larger capacity (and thus a greater yield)

take a look at the distiller i've designed and produce.



http://essentialoil.com/distiller.html



Robert





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Essential Oils - Steam Distillation

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 06:42:36 GMT

--------

>s it possible/practical to do steam distillation from the fresh herb at home?

> Is the equipment commercially marketed for small operations?  Does anyone

>know how one could put it together or where one could purchase such

>equipment?



http://essentialoil.com/distiller.html





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Chemotherapy

From: "Fred W. Stueve Jr." <FredStueve@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 1 Jan 1999 14:25:03 GMT

--------

John,



I give you this information in hopes that it will help you like it did my

mother. Mom was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma about a year ago. Now,

let me tell you that one of the things that helped mom from the beginning to

deal with this cancer is her indomitable spirit and strength of will. She's

the wife of a Navy Chief (E-9) and she is a FIGHTER!



Immediately upon learning about her illness, she and I began researching all

of the conventional and unconventional therapies.



This is what we figured would be our battle plan:



1. Conventional therapy dictates that you attack the cancer with radiation

therapy. This conventional therapy is  extremely unhealthy for the body's

immune system. It suppress the body's ability to fight off secondary

infections such as colds, influenza etc.. Knowing this, during the time that

you are under treatment, you MUST limit your exposure to people. This sounds

harsh but it was part of my mothers' battle plan. She told everyone that she

knew that if they felt or knew that they were sick...DON'T COME OVER TO

VISIT! Mom got "cabin fever" but she stuck to her regiment.



2. In order to fight the side affects of radiation, my mother and I both

concluded that one of the herbs that would best help in stimulating her

immune system was Echinacea. This purple flowers' extracts are a powerful

stimulant to the human immune system. This is what we figured....if we could

stimulate her immune system into keeping a higher overall readiness status

and therefore enable it to bounce back quicker than it normally would to

acceptable levels (the oncologist will check your white blood cell count in

order to figure out wether or not you're ready for your next dose of

radiation) after radiation therapy treatment, the doctor could use a more

aggressive radiation treatment and kill the cancer quicker and therefore

keep it from having a chance to spread anywhere else in the body.



3. Now, I personally think that the best form of Echinacea to use is a

liquid form which is administered with a medicine dropper. I think the

liquid form is more concentrated and maintains more of its' potency. You can

either just drop the prescribed amount of the liquid onto your tongue and

swallow or you can put it into a hot drink (preferable) and drink it that

way. Mom used to put it in tea in the morning and whenever else she took it

during the day



If you have ANY questions, PLEASE DO NOT hesitate to contact me! May God

bless you and keep you!



FredStueve@worldnet.att.net



>I wasn't looking for a miracle cure or a replacement for chemo. I'm

>placing my faith in the medical profession and must confess to being a

>bit of a skeptic when it comes to herbal type stuff but I see no harm

>in asking other peoples advice and maybe trying what they suggest

>(once I OK it with the doc).

>

>>They are right. Take a good tea, thats the only herb I may suggest.

>

>I'll be trying some herbal teas, if they help with the nausea then

>I'll be more than happy :)

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Chemotherapy

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 01:59:56 GMT

--------

>G'day :)

>

>I'm currently recieving CHOP chemo to treat non hodgkins lymphoma,

>depending on the results of a cat scan I have next week I may have to

>go on to high dose chemo and have a bone marrow transplant.

>

>I was just wondering if there are any herbs that help the body recover

>from the effects of chemo. 

>

>The main side effects I have had are lethargy and depression, the docs

>have told me the lethargy is from my blood count dropping and the mood

>swings are caused by the steroids which I take for 5 days after the

>chemo sessions. 



You might try reading Susun Weed's Breast Cancer? Breast Health! She devotes a

lot of space to chemotherapy and how to deal with it.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Chemotherapy

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:21:12 +0000

--------

In article <19990103205956.05621.00000771@ng-ch1.aol.com>, LEvans1044

<levans1044@aol.com> releases a small spider to scrawl across the page..

>>G'day :)

>>

>>I'm currently recieving CHOP chemo to treat non hodgkins lymphoma,

>>depending on the results of a cat scan I have next week I may have to

>>go on to high dose chemo and have a bone marrow transplant.

>>

>>I was just wondering if there are any herbs that help the body recover

>>from the effects of chemo. 

>>

>>The main side effects I have had are lethargy and depression, the docs

>>have told me the lethargy is from my blood count dropping and the mood

>>swings are caused by the steroids which I take for 5 days after the

>>chemo sessions. 

>

>You might try reading Susun Weed's Breast Cancer? Breast Health! She devotes a

>lot of space to chemotherapy and how to deal with it.

>

>Belinda

 I have read that one study suggested that Siberian Ginseng may help

increase tolerance of anti-cancer drugs, as well as improving stamina.

 Korean Ginseng may enable the body to cope better with the stress,

mental and physical including that from radiation and chemotherapy, as

well as reducing tiredness.

 I hope this helps!

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Fred W. Stueve Jr." <FredStueve@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 1 Jan 1999 14:27:49 GMT

--------

Hello Group,



Does anyone know of a natural substitute for the drug companys' pill for

treatment of Hypo-Thyroidism? Seems to me that I remember somebody telling

me about one a long time ago.



FredStueve@worldnet.att.net









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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 11:34:30 -0500

--------

KELP is an excellent supplement for "regulating" the thyroid, so is

beneficial for either "hypo" or "hyper" thyroidism.. The organic iodine

contained in kelp is the secret, combined with all the other nutrients

from the sea in a formula balanced perfectly by Mother Nature. For some

reason Pacific Kelp seems to work best. The Kelp is merely dried & 

compressed into tablets, or placed into gelatin capsules. 

The thyroid needs iodine to function properly. This is not a "cure" just

a natural thyroid tune-up. Sometimes Kelp is combined in capsules with

Irish Moss, Parsley, & Capsicum for more powerful impact, but the Kelp

alone is OK! Kelp & Irish Moss are both forms of seaweed of course.



     Don Levell, M.H.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 05:03:20 GMT

--------

Any suggestions on where I could find more

information on this?



My web-searches on kelps/seaweeds have 

given me very little information.  Are there

any books in particular that you might

recommend?



I am very interested in this as I have been

diagnosed with hypothyroidism and would

really like to understand more about natural

alternatives to the synthetic thyroid pills I

have been taking (i.e. effects/side-effects,

if any, dosage, etc.)



And where might one obtain the capsules

you mentioned?  I haven't seen them in the

health food store that I frequent (or maybe

I haven't looked hard enough)...



Any info you could provide would be

appreciated...



Happy New Year! :-)



On > Fri, Jan 1, 1999 11:34 EST



>Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca> offered:



>KELP is an excellent supplement for

> "regulating" the thyroid, so is beneficial for 

> either "hypo" or "hyper" thyroidism.. The 

>organic iodine contained in kelp is the 

>secret, combined with all the other nutrients

>from the sea in a formula balanced perfectly 

>by Mother Nature. For some reason Pacific 

>Kelp seems to work best. The Kelp is 

>merely dried & compressed into tablets, or 

>placed into gelatin capsules. 

>The thyroid needs iodine to function 

>properly. This is not a "cure" just a natural 

>thyroid tune-up. Sometimes Kelp is

> combined in capsules with

>Irish Moss, Parsley, & Capsicum for more 

>powerful impact, but the Kelp alone is OK! 

>Kelp & Irish Moss are both forms of 

>seaweed of course.







QT***

m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

San Francisco Bay

Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qboats.htm







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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:00:47 -0600

--------

IMQTPI <imqtpi@aol.com> wrote:

>Any suggestions on where I could find more

>information on this?

>

>My web-searches on kelps/seaweeds have 

>given me very little information. 



The iodine in kelp prevents goiter from iodine deficiency, but most table

salt in the US was iodized decades ago to prevent iodine deficiency.  

If you've been using iodized salt all along, the kelp is not

likely to be much help for hypothyroid.



-- 

  jamie  (mjwm@austin.rr.com)



  		"There's a seeker born every minute."





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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0500

--------

This gets into the issue of "organic" versus "inorganic" which is

probably inappropriate for ths NG, is quite contraversial. The

difference mainly is that the iodine added to salt is "inorganic" from

rock, while the iodine in kelp or other seaweeds is in balance with all

the other nutrients, is "organic" (i.e. living) and is already there so

doesn't have to be artificially added. It is NOT my intention to get

involved in a debate on this "organic-inorganic" issue, but only to

explain why I support the use of kelp for regulating the thyroid. 



     Don Levell





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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: 2maples@dnaco.net (Christine Krebs-Bonder)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:17:24 GMT

--------

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0500, Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

wrote:



>This gets into the issue of "organic" versus "inorganic" which is

>probably inappropriate for ths NG, is quite contraversial. The

>difference mainly is that the iodine added to salt is "inorganic" from

>rock, while the iodine in kelp or other seaweeds is in balance with all

>the other nutrients, is "organic" (i.e. living) and is already there so

>doesn't have to be artificially added. It is NOT my intention to get

>involved in a debate on this "organic-inorganic" issue, but only to

>explain why I support the use of kelp for regulating the thyroid. 

>

>     Don Levell



regardless of sources the iodine from each is chemically identical. At

leastthat's what I learned and observed in college chemistry classes.

"The day I don't learn something new will be the day after I am dead."



Christine Krebs-Bonder

Dayton, OH





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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Frodalf" <frodalf@cysource.com>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:33:52 -0600

--------

The kelp also has many ingredients that help with the processing of iodine.

With table salt all you get is a sodium and iodine.



Using sea salt would be much better.



Christine Krebs-Bonder <2maples@dnaco.net> wrote in message

<368fa39e.6942105@news.dnaco.net>...

>On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0500, Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

>wrote:

>

>>This gets into the issue of "organic" versus "inorganic" which is

>>probably inappropriate for ths NG, is quite contraversial. The

>>difference mainly is that the iodine added to salt is "inorganic" from

>>rock, while the iodine in kelp or other seaweeds is in balance with all

>>the other nutrients, is "organic" (i.e. living) and is already there so

>>doesn't have to be artificially added. It is NOT my intention to get

>>involved in a debate on this "organic-inorganic" issue, but only to

>>explain why I support the use of kelp for regulating the thyroid.

>>

>>     Don Levell

>

>regardless of sources the iodine from each is chemically identical. At

>leastthat's what I learned and observed in college chemistry classes.

>"The day I don't learn something new will be the day after I am dead."

>

>Christine Krebs-Bonder

>Dayton, OH









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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 15:21:17 -0500

--------

Christine, that's the issue I was referring to, i.e the difference in

the way the body processes naturally occuring substances versus man-made

chemicals which are added artificially.



     Don Levell

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: cyli@visi.com

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:23:35 GMT

--------

Not all salt is still iodized.  I live in the 'goiter belt' and have

found in recent years that the supply of iodized salt is taking up

less and less space on the shelves.  Look at the canisters next time

you go to the store.  One will say 'iodized' on the front, the other

won't.  Apparently it's been decided that with produce and meat coming

from all over the country nowdays, we no longer have a real need to

supplement.  I don't believe that, as most people eat local produce

and meats quite a bit.  But then I live in a city surrounded by farms

and feedlots  once you get 20 miles out from the city centers.  But a

meal or two of shrimp or other seafood a couple of times a month

probably takes care of it.







On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0500, Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

wrote:



>This gets into the issue of "organic" versus "inorganic" which is

>probably inappropriate for ths NG, is quite contraversial. The

>difference mainly is that the iodine added to salt is "inorganic" from

>rock, while the iodine in kelp or other seaweeds is in balance with all

>the other nutrients, is "organic" (i.e. living) and is already there so

>doesn't have to be artificially added. It is NOT my intention to get

>involved in a debate on this "organic-inorganic" issue, but only to

>explain why I support the use of kelp for regulating the thyroid. 

>

>     Don Levell



-----



I only answer my email every few months, on average.  

Patience helps.  



http://www.visi.com/~cyli





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 02:01:44 GMT

--------

cyli@visi.com wrote:

> 

> Not all salt is still iodized.  I live in the 'goiter belt' and have

> found in recent years that the supply of iodized salt is taking up

> less and less space on the shelves.  Look at the canisters next time

> you go to the store.  One will say 'iodized' on the front, the other

> won't.  Apparently it's been decided that with produce and meat coming

> from all over the country nowdays, we no longer have a real need to

> supplement.  I don't believe that, as most people eat local produce

> and meats quite a bit.  But then I live in a city surrounded by farms

> and feedlots  once you get 20 miles out from the city centers.  But a

> meal or two of shrimp or other seafood a couple of times a month

> probably takes care of it.

> 

> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0500, Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

> wrote:

> 

> >This gets into the issue of "organic" versus "inorganic" which is

> >probably inappropriate for ths NG, is quite contraversial. The

> >difference mainly is that the iodine added to salt is "inorganic" from

> >rock, while the iodine in kelp or other seaweeds is in balance with all

> >the other nutrients, is "organic" (i.e. living) and is already there so

> >doesn't have to be artificially added. It is NOT my intention to get

> >involved in a debate on this "organic-inorganic" issue, but only to

> >explain why I support the use of kelp for regulating the thyroid.

> >

> >     Don Levell

> 

> ----- 





I purchase the natural salt from the salt mines in Utah so it does not

have the iodine added so I mix it with kelp for the iodine.  I really

started to mix it for the zinc in the kelp and to prevent my husband

from using so much salt.  We have found that we prefer our salt this way

for it tastes better.  It looks strange to most people until they try

it.  I have given quite a-bit away to company after they have asked for

some to take home to try with their own food.



J9





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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:50:07 -0500

--------

cyli@visi.com wrote in message <3690ed00.16607415@news.visi.com>...

>Not all salt is still iodized.



Add to that the fact that more and more people are trying to cut down on

their added salt, preferring to limit salt intake to what may already be in

whatever processed foods they eat, and the fact that food processors don't

necessarily use iodized salt, and you can easily see some potential problems

developing.



Iodized salt was introduced at a time when salting (oversalting) of food at

the table was much more common, before the relationship of sodium and high

blood pressure was understood.  At least some processors definitely do NOT

use iodized salt.  I'm not sure why in every case, but I do know that

pickling recipes specify non-iodized (rock or Kosher) salt, I believe

because of the development of discoloration or off flavors in the stored

products.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 15:27:25 -0600

--------

PTM <pmaser@usa.net> wrote:

>

>Does anyone know or remember about what year that Potassium Iodide

>began to be added to table salt.



I love altavista -- From Morton salt company's site: 

In 1924 Morton became the first company to produce iodized salt for the

table in order to reduce the incidence of simple goiter.



-- 

  jamie  (mjwm@austin.rr.com)



  		"There's a seeker born every minute."





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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Fred W. Stueve Jr." <FredStueve@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 15:19:55 GMT

--------

Hi Don,



How does one go about determining the correct dosage for this? Is there a

simple test which will tell you that you are getting the correct dosage? Or

does one have to go through a long process of experimentation with dosage

until one feels "normal"?



Don Levell wrote in message <368CF916.1386@sympatico.ca>...

>KELP is an excellent supplement for "regulating" the thyroid, so is

>beneficial for either "hypo" or "hyper" thyroidism.. The organic iodine

>contained in kelp is the secret, combined with all the other nutrients

>from the sea in a formula balanced perfectly by Mother Nature. For some

>reason Pacific Kelp seems to work best. The Kelp is merely dried &

>compressed into tablets, or placed into gelatin capsules.

>The thyroid needs iodine to function properly. This is not a "cure" just

>a natural thyroid tune-up. Sometimes Kelp is combined in capsules with

>Irish Moss, Parsley, & Capsicum for more powerful impact, but the Kelp

>alone is OK! Kelp & Irish Moss are both forms of seaweed of course.

>

>     Don Levell, M.H.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 13:17:17 -0500

--------

With kelp your body talks...and if you get too much you will probably

get a severe headache! However, remember is is NOT necessary to use a

lot of kelp whether in tablet, capsule, or liquid form.



     Don Levell





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:04:50 GMT

--------

After much discussion over iodized vs. non-iodized salt, and organic vs.

inorganic iodine sources, and a brief mention of

"How do you know how much is right?".....



...I'm still curious to know if there are any books or other

resources out there that might provide a little bit more 

insight into Kelp/Dulce/Irish Moss, et al and potential

benefits for natural treatment of Hypothyroidism...



I tend to like to read about stuff before I start ingesting it :-)



Thanks for any input!



QT***

m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

San Francisco Bay

Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qboats.htm







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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Elaine" <mdoub@removethisearthlink.net>

Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:02:56 GMT

--------

Try 'Prescription for Nutritional Healing' by James and Phyllis Balch-Avery

Publishing. Many health food stores use it as their bible. 

Another is 'Natural Health, Natural Medicine' by Andrew Weil. He also has a

web site. 

I took synthyroid for about 15 years for my underactive thyroid. For the

last 10 of those years my yearly thyroid tests kept coming back as

hyperactive. I tapered off  the synthyroid over a period of about 4 months.

My thyroid tests are now normal. 

A sidebar to this story is that I have been diagnosed with osteopenia (low

bone density). One of the causes of low bone density may be synthyroid

given in dosages which cause the thyroid to be hyperactive. 

Hope this helps. Be informed!

-- 

Elaine  

Remove 'removethis' to email.



IMQTPI <imqtpi@aol.com> wrote in article

<19990105170450.08425.00007165@ng-fu1.aol.com>...

> After much discussion over iodized vs. non-iodized salt, and organic vs.

> inorganic iodine sources, and a brief mention of

> "How do you know how much is right?".....

>  ...I'm still curious to know if there are any books or other

> resources out there that might provide a little bit more 

> insight into Kelp/Dulce/Irish Moss, et al and potential

> benefits for natural treatment of Hypothyroidism...

> I tend to like to read about stuff before I start ingesting it :-)

> Thanks for any input!

>  QT***

> m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

> San Francisco Bay

> Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qboats.htm









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: kwanremoveten@xs4all.nl (Cathy)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:02:07 GMT

--------

Hi,



Does kelp contain much iron? I take kelp of Essential Organics and the

label says it contains iron. I know iron is better avoided (iron is

considered bad for your heart).

Can your bloodpressure rise through kelp?



Cathy





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: cyli@visi.com

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:45:05 GMT

--------

Iron is bad for your heart?  Since when?  Overdose, maybe.  Iron is

essential to the blood, if not to other things.  Red cells don't work

well without iron.





On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:02:07 GMT, kwanremoveten@xs4all.nl (Cathy)

wrote:



>Hi,

>

>Does kelp contain much iron? I take kelp of Essential Organics and the

>label says it contains iron. I know iron is better avoided (iron is

>considered bad for your heart).

>Can your bloodpressure rise through kelp?

>

>Cathy



-----



I only answer my email every few months, on average.  

Patience helps.  



http://www.visi.com/~cyli





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:03:24 -0500

--------



cyli@visi.com wrote in message <369c3b49.19637013@news.visi.com>...

>Iron is bad for your heart?  Since when?  Overdose, maybe.  Iron is

>essential to the blood, if not to other things.  Red cells don't work

>well without iron.





I agree - you cannot survive without iron, period.  The problem with iron is

that people get too much of it from too many different sources.  It is so

easy and cheap to add as a supplement, almost every processed baked goods

contains some, and many cereals give you 100% with each serving, and almost

all multivitamins carry 100%, and red meats are high in iron, as well as

many green vegetables - well, you get the picture.



And...red cells don't work AT ALL without iron.  It is the heart of the

hemoglobin molecule, which is responsible for carrying oxygen in the system.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:48:42 +0000

--------

Richard Ogden wrote:



> cyli@visi.com wrote in message <369c3b49.19637013@news.visi.com>...

> >Iron is bad for your heart?  Since when?  Overdose, maybe.  Iron is

> >essential to the blood, if not to other things.  Red cells don't work

> >well without iron.

>

> I agree - you cannot survive without iron, period.  The problem with iron is

> that people get too much of it from too many different sources.  It is so

> easy and cheap to add as a supplement, almost every processed baked goods

> contains some, and many cereals give you 100% with each serving, and almost

> all multivitamins carry 100%, and red meats are high in iron, as well as

> many green vegetables - well, you get the picture.

>

> And...red cells don't work AT ALL without iron.  It is the heart of the

> hemoglobin molecule, which is responsible for carrying oxygen in the system.

>

> -Rich



Rich,

    When you say 100% do you mean of the Recomended Daily Intake or are you

saying that the food is made up of 100% iron?

I'm a little confused.



Thanks



Simon.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:08:47 GMT

--------

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:48:42 +0000, simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>    When you say 100% do you mean of the Recomended Daily Intake or are you

>saying that the food is made up of 100% iron?

>I'm a little confused.



Hand me the file, please, I'm cooking dinner ;)



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:27:17 -0500

--------

simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369DCB8A.C963037E@gjames.com.au>...

>

>Rich,

>    When you say 100% do you mean of the Recomended Daily Intake or are you

>saying that the food is made up of 100% iron?

>I'm a little confused.

>





Umm...you *are* joking, right?  ;-)



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Natural Treatment for Hypothyroidism??

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:07:44 +0000

--------

Richard Ogden wrote:



> simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369DCB8A.C963037E@gjames.com.au>...

> >

> >Rich,

> >    When you say 100% do you mean of the Recomended Daily Intake or are you

> >saying that the food is made up of 100% iron?

> >I'm a little confused.

> >

>

> Umm...you *are* joking, right?  ;-)

>

> -Rich



YEah it just sounded a little funny.

Unless of course that is what you meant in any case that would explain my high

dentistry bills lately.



Simon.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: NADH

From: "Decker" <Decker@hotmail.com>

Date: 1 Jan 1999 17:06:43 GMT

--------

My friend and I started taking NADH a few weeks ago.  One day she started

having mood swings, anxiety, feelings of depression, sleeplesness etc.  For

some reason she suspected NADH.  She stopped it, the symptoms disappeared

after a couple of days.  I personally thought it was stress related.  A

couple weeks later, I had the same thing happen to me out of the blue.  I

too stopped taking NADH a few days ago.  I for the most part feel better

too.  Anyone ever heard of this type of side effect to NADH?  Everything I

read on it says there are no reported side effects.  It is hard to

determine if NADH was the cause, but I have strong suspicions.  







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Subject: Re: NADH

From: "Decker" <Decker@hotmail.com>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 16:26:00 GMT

--------

Sorry,  I should have given some more information.  Nadh is a co enzyme

that is available in most health food stores, here in Canada at least..  It

has been inmplicated as helping in everything from CFS, to Parkinsons,

Alzheimers, depression etc.  You see alot of hype about it here lately.

From what I understand, we all get NAD normally, but not enough.  It is

necessary for maximum cellular function.  The best way to see is to go to

www.nadh.com and get an idea.  



Jean <vitranjx@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us> wrote in article

<Rsdj2.9$gG2.507@homer.alpha.net>...

> What is NADH?

> 

> 

> 





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Subject: info

From: Don or Darla Arnold <DArnold@datasync.com>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:08:03 -0600

--------

are there herbs to rev up ones sex life and how long do you take them

for them to take effect--hours, days ,weeks

or is there such a thing





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Subject: Re: Any suggestions for MENINGITIS ??

From: "loki" <loki@inlink.com>

Date: 1 Jan 1999 20:38:00 GMT

--------

A hospital.



Meningitis kills.  Don't take any chances with it.



Loki



Lpew <lpew@arkansas.net> wrote in article 

> Need thoughts as to what may work against meningitis caused by

> cryptococcus.

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: Any suggestions for MENINGITIS ??

From: "ma pickle" <ma pickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:32:10 -0800

--------

I agree. If you suspect menningitis you need to get to an ER.









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Subject: Re: Any suggestions for MENINGITIS ??

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 02:57:30 GMT

--------

lpew@arkansas.net (Lpew) wrote:



>Need thoughts as to what may work against meningitis caused by

>cryptococcus.



Immediate hospitalization, and large doses of antibiotics and

other heavy-duty drugs!  That's a nasty organism and there isn't

an herb on the plante that can slow it down.





Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

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To: "." <gcr468@airmail.net>

Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net>

Date: 01 Jan 1999 16:51:56 PST

--------

You might want to check out Lupins, another name for Wolfsbohne, that might be it. Its

an asain and mid east herb.





. wrote:



> I am looking for information on this herb...........

>

>                                                 thanks

>

>                                                                                 geo











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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:27:37 GMT

--------

On 01 Jan 1999 16:51:56 PST, John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>> I am looking for information on this herb...........



>You might want to check out Lupins, another name for Wolfsbohne, that might be it. Its

>an asain and mid east herb.



Possibly, but there IS a wolfberry, found abundantly in the SW US, and -also-

found in China.



Check under the latin name of Lycium.



Happy New Year!

Henriette



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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: cmorton@aol.com (C MORTON)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 06:22:56 GMT

--------

>>> I am looking for information on this herb...........



The Chinese Wolfberry (Lycium barbarum) is called Goji Berry by the Chinese. 

It is over 13% protein by weight.  According to the Natural Science Institute

in Beijing, Wolfberry has more beta carotene than carrots, nearly as much

protein as bee pollen and much Vit C as oranges.  It also contains 21 trace

minerals, vit. B-1, B-2, B-6, & Vit. E.  The Wolfberry also contains superoxide

dismutase, phenylpropanoids, &  L-leucine.



As a side note I've tried growing it but it's not doing too well.  The first

year my dog sat on it  and broke the branch off.  Grew about 2 inches the next

year.  If it's still alive this spring I'm going to dig it up and bring it

inside.  



Cheryse







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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:51:22 GMT

--------



C MORTON wrote in message <19990116012256.23259.00001682@ng103.aol.com>...

>>>> I am looking for information on this herb...........

>

>The Chinese Wolfberry (Lycium barbarum) is called Goji Berry by the

Chinese.

>It is over 13% protein by weight.  According to the Natural Science

Institute

>in Beijing, Wolfberry has more beta carotene than carrots, nearly as much

>protein as bee pollen and much Vit C as oranges.  It also contains 21 trace

>minerals, vit. B-1, B-2, B-6, & Vit. E.  The Wolfberry also contains

superoxide

>dismutase, phenylpropanoids, &  L-leucine.

>

>As a side note I've tried growing it but it's not doing too well.  The

first

>year my dog sat on it  and broke the branch off.  Grew about 2 inches the

next

>year.  If it's still alive this spring I'm going to dig it up and bring it

>inside.

>

>Cheryse



My husband spent one winter working in China, and Goji juice is a very

popular drink there.   He brought a bottle home with him, and it was quite

delicious.



Evelyn













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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:08:21 -0500

--------



C MORTON wrote in message <19990116012256.23259.00001682@ng103.aol.com>...

>

>As a side note I've tried growing it but it's not doing too well.  The

first

>year my dog sat on it  and broke the branch off.  Grew about 2 inches the

next

>year.  If it's still alive this spring I'm going to dig it up and bring it

>inside.



Cheryse, I remember having trouble finding the seeds for a while, until I

tried sprouting some taken from the dried berries I bought at a local

Chinese grocery store.  They all sprouted!  The plants didn't do well down

here in the humid South - fungus diseases, and the grasshoppers love them.

When I mentioned to one of the women at the store that I'd sprouted some,

she smiled and told me she had only recently finally killed the last of

hers.  I extended sympathy, and she looked surprised and then laughed and

said it hadn't been easy; the patch had spread all over her yard and it had

been hard work eradicating them all!  And I with my degrees in horticulture

can't get one to live through the summer...<sigh>.  There's always next

year.



-Rich











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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:16:56 -0600

--------



Hortus Third has Wolfberry as a name for the Snowberry, Symphoricarpos

occidentalis, which is in W US and Canada. China is sometimes used to mean

the sarsaparilla, Smilax spp. Common names are just that, common - the same

name can be used for totally different plants in different places.









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Subject: Re: INFO ON WOLFBERRY CHINA HERB?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:40:06 -0500

--------

Anne Delfeld wrote in message <76lhb8$bpu$1@news.inc.net>...

>

>Hortus Third has Wolfberry as a name for the Snowberry, Symphoricarpos

>occidentalis, which is in W US and Canada. China is sometimes used to mean

>the sarsaparilla, Smilax spp. Common names are just that, common - the same

>name can be used for totally different plants in different places.





Yes, and Hortus III is a reference of *cultivated* plants, written for

botanists and horticulturists and never intended as an herbalists reference.

There are for instance MANY of the Chinese herbs, both cultivated and

collected from the wild, that are not covered anywhere in Hortus.  In fact,

the book is in general woefully short of entries on many of the important

plants of Africa, Asia and South America.



-Rich











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Subject: Does growth hormone really prevent aging???

From: laundry31@aol.com (Laundry 31)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 01:54:50 GMT

--------

About 4 months ago, my brother started taking something to stimulate the

production of his own human growth hormone. He is really convinced that the

product helped him with energy, stamina, muscle mass, and skin tone.  He read

some book about HGH and started taking this stuff right away.  I'm wondering if

it's completely safe and effective. If so, why haven't I heard anything else

about this? It seems to good to be true-  slowing or halting the aging process.



Has anyone else taken this product, and if so what results have you seen?



Very curious about it

Laundry31@aol.com





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Subject: Re: Does growth hormone really prevent aging???

From: "Ruiseart & Ceit" <raven@networx.net.au>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 16:09:18 -0800

--------

Do a web search on HGH. Body builders have been using it for quite some

time, and according to some of the articles I have read it is extremely

dangerous. I wish I could quote the exact places, but it is my Hubby not

myself who is the body builder and I am just not sure which site he saw it

on, although he did discuss it with me at the time. Apparently a lot of

young people just starting in the body building arena thought it is the be

all and end all of "natural and safe" growth assistance, however Steroids

is probably safer.

Ceit.





Laundry 31 <laundry31@aol.com> wrote in article

<19990101205450.28323.00005798@ng103.aol.com>...

> About 4 months ago, my brother started taking something to stimulate the

> production of his own human growth hormone. He is really convinced that

the

> product helped him with energy, stamina, muscle mass, and skin tone.  He

read

> some book about HGH and started taking this stuff right away.  I'm

wondering if

> it's completely safe and effective. If so, why haven't I heard anything

else

> about this? It seems to good to be true-  slowing or halting the aging

process.

> 

> Has anyone else taken this product, and if so what results have you seen?

> 

> Very curious about it

> Laundry31@aol.com

> 





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Subject: Chinese Herb Translation????

From: posthere@in.the.news.group.com (just wondering)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 02:02:19 GMT

--------

Ok so I've got a list of chinese herbs for a special potion....



what i need to know is can anyone tell me what these are in english,

or are they native chinese herbs :



su geng

su mu

hou bu

sa ren

gui wei

mu xiang

chuan hong hua

zhi ke

chi yao

tao ren

xiang fu



???????????

anyhelp much appreciated





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Subject: Re: lobelia

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 02:07:56 GMT

--------

>>Someone told me lobelia isn't an herb, but I wonder if there is more

>>than one kind of lobelia and maybe I'm confusing one kind with the

>>other.  Does anyone know any facts about lobelia?  Thanks.

>

>Sure Lobelia is an herb. The one mostly used is Lobelia inflata, but some

>other

>species will do, too. AFAIK the ornamentals found in plant shops everywhere

>come

>spring (at least over here) aren't medicinal.

>

>Henriette



Is it a type of lobelia that grows along the roads in the summer in Finland?



Belinda









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Subject: Re: lobelia

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:29:36 GMT

--------

On 2 Jan 1999 02:07:56 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>>species will do, too. AFAIK the ornamentals found in plant shops everywhere come

>>spring (at least over here) aren't medicinal.

>

>Is it a type of lobelia that grows along the roads in the summer in Finland?



We don't have a native Lobelia. Unless you count the planted annuals as "native"

- they sure are abundant enough in windowsill boxes...



Henriette



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Subject: Re: tincture presses

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 02:10:18 GMT

--------

Mine was made by my partner. There isn't a bit of plastic (or metal for that

matter) that comes in contact with the plants.



He's be willing to make them for $75, they handle about one quart or so of

tincture.



Belinda





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Subject: <<INFORMATION NEEDED>>

From: "Bob Squiers" <bizbrkr@home.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 02:54:12 GMT

--------

I am seeking some information regarding two herbs that were suggested to me

to help mellow out my extreme type A personality. The suggested items are:

KAVA KAVA and VALARIAN. Does anyone know what I might expect from either of

these, what side affects, downside etc. Any help will be greatly

appreciated. Thanks!

e-mail to  bizbrkr@home.com









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Subject: Re: <<INFORMATION NEEDED>>

From: "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:23:25 -0600

--------

Kava kava is a plant related to black pepper, the spice. the root was used

in the Pacific Islands as a party drink, has much the same effect as beer

though it is not alcoholic.

Valerian was used medicinally to calm nervous people, I think it still is.











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Subject: tam berry root

From: slaraalaa@aol.com (SLARAALAA)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 03:43:04 GMT

--------

I purchased a bottle of herbal concentrate in Antigua which you mix with water

for a refreshing drink.  It contains mauby bark and tamberry root.  Can anyone

tell me what they are, any harmful side effects abd what they are supposed to

do? Please e mail me with any information on these herbs at SLARAALAA@AOL.COM. 

Thanks so  much.





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Subject: Re: Acne problems

From: Jen <jen@munn.com>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:10:08 -0800

--------



A possible aggravating (if not causative) factor could be any styling

products you use in your hair and also perfumed soaps or other

substances you may use on your face. My acne got a LOT better when I

switched to an all natural olive oil (fragrance free) soap and stopped

using the harsh acne creams in the stores. I use Kiss My Face olive oil

soap (the only type they sell that is fragrance free) and Thayer's lemon

and witchhazel cleanser (sort of an astringent). I don't sell either of

these btw.



If you are sensitive or allergic to foods, they can cause acne also like

the others mentioned.



 

Jen :-)

Long Island NY

jen@munn.com



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WALK ON THE WEB  http://www.munn.com/~jmunn/





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Subject: Re: Acne problems

From: donwiss@spamnot.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 18:14:17 GMT

--------

On 1 Jan 1999 01:14:38 GMT, illr2d2ili@aol.com (IllR2D2IlI) wrote:



>what are gluten foods?



Gluten is a protein that is found in all wheat (more so in bread and

pasta), but also found in lesser quantity in spelt, rye, barley, oats and

all foodstuffs containing one of these grains, including many food

chemicals like hydrolyzed vegetable protein (called "flavorings" or

"natural flavors" in the ingredient list).



For more you can see this page of links:



  The Gluten-Free Page:  http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/



Don (at panix com).





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Subject: dry scalp and thining hair

From: danny <treehugger@home.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 05:19:03 GMT

--------

any ideas on the best shampoos, lotions, suppliments, herbs, ect. I'm a

28 year old male if that helps ;o)    Oh ya how about aloe vera plant??





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Subject: Longevity Network

From: "Beth" <bethcd6@mail.sunlink.net>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:14:28 -0500

--------

Hi, I'm new here, and am interested in herbs and vitamins as alternatives

and/or supplements to standard medical practices.  I was wondering if anyone

here has had any experiences with the Longevity Network.  Any input would be

appreciated.

Thanks,

Beth









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Subject: Anyone have a twisted ankle cure?

From: "Jerry O. Andersen" <scoober@earthlink.net>

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 22:16:32 -0800

--------

Hello,

 I recently twisted my ankle pretty good. I  work in a job as a courier

where pressure is often on my ankle and its not healing very well or

fast. Its been 1 week with no sign of the swolleness going away. Does

anyone knows if soaking my foot in some kind of herb or drinking some

kind of herbs would  hasten my recovery? Thank you in advance.



    ~Jerry









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Subject: Re: Anyone have a twisted ankle cure?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:36:12 GMT

--------

"Jerry O. Andersen" <scoober@earthlink.net> wrote:



>Hello,

> I recently twisted my ankle pretty good. I  work in a job as a courier

>where pressure is often on my ankle and its not healing very well or

>fast. 

  To speed healing TAKE THE WEIGHT OFF IT!!!  Get your boss to

reassign you for a while or it will perhaps never heal. 



>Its been 1 week with no sign of the swolleness going away. Does

>anyone knows if soaking my foot in some kind of herb or drinking some

>kind of herbs would  hasten my recovery? Thank you in advance.



  Elevate the ankle whenever possible, use a MILD compression and



high-topped support shoes (basketball shoes will do) and asrnica

rubs.

  But the REAL KEY IS TO KEEP OFF IT! 

Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

We're just a bunch of typed letters on a screen and we hope none of us is seriously deranged!





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Subject: Re: Anyone have a twisted ankle cure?

From: herblady@newsguy.comX (Rastapoodle)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:22:04 GMT

--------

As the sports doctors advise:



R -rest

I  - apply ice 20 minutes on/off

C - compresion, like an Ace bandage

E - elevate - when you sit, put your injured leg up on a footstool



Arnica cream will help also.

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Subject: Re: Any prevention tips for kidney stones?

From: "Gibblette" <dg@hotmail.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 09:52:09 GMT

--------

Can I suggest an herbal supplement?  It's called "STONE FREE" by

Plantary Formulas.  It's for kidney stones & gall stones.  It can be

found in health food stores that carry a lot of herbal products.  (Not

all stores carry it, but call around)  You can also order it off the

internet by looking for "Michael Tierra or Stone Free".  He is the N.D.

that came up with his own herbal remedy formulas.



I only know about it because I had gall stones 2 years ago during my

pregnancy.  I am leary of Dr's & their drastic (surgical) measures for

just about everything.  I wasn't about to risk myself over surgery

while I was breastfeeding!  So, I looked into herbs.  Since I started

taking Stone Free, I haven't had an attack.  Diet plays a role in the

formation of gall or kidney stones, so if the diet doesn't change, they

can come back.



I want to stress the benefits of trying ALL non invasive measures

before resorting to surgery. 



Best of luck to your father.



Gibblette





> > My father is going through his third attack of kidney stones.  He went into

> > the dr for Xrays and they found one in the tract and two more in the kidney.

> > He wanted to use the ultrasound treatment to break them up but the dr says

> > you can only do that for the stones IN the kidney...not once they've reached

> > the tract.  The one in the tract is stuck, so needless to say, he is in

> > intense pain.  They are going in tomorrow to remove it.

> >

> > Any remedies on prevention for this?  The pain is very intense....  any

> > suggestions would be appreciated.

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Subject: Re: Any prevention tips for kidney stones?

From: gurushakti@aol.com (GURUSHAKTI)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 14:30:34 GMT

--------

Start using olive oil for cooking and in your salad dressings. It contains a

chemical "chlorestorin" which prevent stone forming in the body.

Regards,

June









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Subject: Re: Any prevention tips for kidney stones?

From: "spooky" <tiffany@(no-spam)tfn.net>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:29:36 -0800

--------

That's exactly what his doctor said...only he said NO JUICE ever, for the

rest of his life... we'll see.



Thanks again,



Tiffany



Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on

your computer.













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Subject: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: posthere@in.the.news.group.com (cherub)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:59:01 GMT

--------

Anyone have some herbal recipes for concoctions that will get the

juices flowing?



I have heard that there are some pretty powerful recipes around that

are used by those in the know....



curiouser and curiouser







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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:37:24 GMT

--------

posthere@in.the.news.group.com (cherub) wrote:



>Anyone have some herbal recipes for concoctions that will get the

>juices flowing?

>

>I have heard that there are some pretty powerful recipes around that

>are used by those in the know....



  Chocolate (Godiva quality or better), flowers (lilacs) and good

Port wine.  Dip the chocolate into the port and comsume slowly,

inhale the scent of the flowers ......  :)  







Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

We're just a bunch of typed letters on a screen and we hope none of us is seriously deranged!





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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 16:04:09 GMT

--------

On > Sat, Jan 2, 1999 09:37 EST



>abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh) offered:



>>I have heard that there are some pretty

>> powerful recipes around that

>>are used by those in the know....

>

>  Chocolate (Godiva quality or better),

> flowers (lilacs) and good Port wine.  Dip the 

>chocolate into the port and comsume slowly,

>inhale the scent of the flowers ......  :)  

>



...Heehee, and for those who are into

Crystal Healing...



You might add a diamond or two to that 

recipe!  The bigger the better ;-)



With hopes for a Happy and Humorous New Year...





QT***

m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

San Francisco Bay

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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: paprboy55@aol.com (Paprboy55)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 08:28:56 GMT

--------

>You might add a diamond or two to that 

>recipe!  The bigger the better ;-)

>



I recommend some candles and massage oil and a little ginseng. As far as "the

bigger the better," I'm not so sure about that. ;-)



Doug







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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:42:57 +1030

--------

Some of the best ones include Damiana and Saw Palmetto.  They can be

used by both men and women, and are especially good in women in drop

doses/small doses for women with hormonal imbalance induced poor libido.

Regards, Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com





cherub wrote:

> 

> Anyone have some herbal recipes for concoctions that will get the

> juices flowing?

> 

> I have heard that there are some pretty powerful recipes around that

> are used by those in the know....

> 

> curiouser and curiouser





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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: bob@bob.com (Bob)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 16:46:32 GMT

--------

On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:59:01 GMT, posthere@in.the.news.group.com (cherub)

wrote:



>Anyone have some herbal recipes for concoctions that will get the

>juices flowing?



There are several things to consider when using herbs for this.



1. YMMV Your mileage may vary. That means what works for me won't necessarily

work for you. so you will have to experiment on your own to see what works for

you.



2. There is a wide variation in potency between brands. If one brand doesn't

work for you, try another.



3. Yohimbe or Yohimbine is often prescribed for use along with Viagara. Its

use is controversial. Some books say it is toxic. My personal experience is

that in normal doses, about 1 gram, it does nothing. At 2 grams it produces a

positive effect, but also causes nausea.



4. Some combinations work, others don't. Recently I have seen Ginkgo Biloba

packaged along with Ginseng. For me, this combination is no good at all. It

causes nothing pro-sexual, reduces my blood pressure to near dangerous levels,

and gives me a day long headache.



5. One combination that does work (for me) is Ginseng and Yohimbe. While the

results of either one individually is inconsistent, together they have been

quite reliable.



6. Types of Ginseng play a factor also. I find, as others have, that Chinese

Red Ginseng is the best of the bunch. After that comes Siberian, then Korean.

There are others which I have not yet tried.



Hope this helps.







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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: nyts@dorsai.org (Bart Lidofsky)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 19:42:58 GMT

--------

In article <368f9ae8.478396@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Bob wrote:

>3. Yohimbe or Yohimbine is often prescribed for use along with Viagara. Its

>use is controversial. Some books say it is toxic. My personal experience is

>that in normal doses, about 1 gram, it does nothing. At 2 grams it produces a

>positive effect, but also causes nausea.



	I don't know if you used Yohimbe (a natural bark) or Yohimine (a

commercial product containing a minute amount of Yohimbe), but if it is

the former, I beieve it is also an MAO inhibitor.



-- 

	Bart Lidofsky

	Systems Administrator

	New York Theosophical Society

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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:29:44 +0800

--------

Crushed Emu eggs have a similar effect as viagra on the errectile tissue of

males and females.

But unless you live in Australia like myself this resource may be a little

hard to obtain.



J











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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 05:00:42 GMT

--------



I've no idea how well it works, but you don't have to be in Australia to get 

Emu eggs.  We've got them running loose in Texas!  Diana



In article <76s4iq$97j$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>, "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> 

wrote:

>Crushed Emu eggs have a similar effect as viagra on the errectile tissue of

>males and females.

>But unless you live in Australia like myself this resource may be a little

>hard to obtain.

>

>J

>

>

>





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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 06:39:15 GMT

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In article <H1hk2.366$Rn3.2734@news13.ispnews.com>, Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana) wrote:



Ummm....I meant the Emus are running loose.  Not the eggs.  Diana



>I've no idea how well it works, but you don't have to be in Australia to get 

>Emu eggs.  We've got them running loose in Texas!  Diana

>

>In article <76s4iq$97j$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>, "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> 

>wrote:

>>Crushed Emu eggs have a similar effect as viagra on the errectile tissue of

>>males and females.

>>But unless you live in Australia like myself this resource may be a little

>>hard to obtain.

>>

>>J

>>

>>

>>





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Subject: Re: *****Aphrodisiacs******

From: shaktifire@aol.com (ShaktiFire)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:13:34 GMT

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Tribulus terrestis for the men.

An herb reputed to increase testosterone

levels.



Other wise , androdiol, a legal steroid

which is converted to testosterone in the

body.





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Subject: Re: Chasteberry

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:22:15 +1030

--------

If this herb is taken in moderate doses, it should do no harm to the

liver.  I would also advise you to take some St Mary's thistle to help

with your liver.  The liver is very important as it helps to balance the

hormone levels in the body, and the St Marys will help to cleanse and

repair if necessary.  With the Vitex, and yes it is also known as

CHasteberry, if you can get it in tincture, take 5 drops morning and

night.  In capsules, take the lowest amount you can find.  I know this

may sound a little strange, but these herbs affect hormone levels.  If

you go in with large amounts, you can push them too high, and you will

still have them problems.  If you go in low, you can start to sort the

hormone levels out. Hope this is of some help.  If you want any more

help, give me a personal e-mail, and I'll get my books out and send you

what you need.

Regards,

Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com



AKM wrote:

> 

> Can this herb be harmful to the liver in any way? I am planning to start

> taking it for infertility but I have Hepatitis C. So far there is no damage

> to my liver  and I want to keep it that way. So, I would like to check on

> the chasteberry before I put it in my body...

> Is Vitex and Chasteberry one and the same?

> Thanks alot!!!

> Anna





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Subject: Re: Alternative methods for tinnitus treatment?

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:28:40 +1030

--------

Herbally, Scullcap and Ginko Biloba have been used with some excellent

results.  I personally also add some Hawthorn and other herbs to suit

the patient.

Regards,

Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com



IMQTPI wrote:

> 

> On >Mon, Dec 28, 1998 06:53 EST

> 

> >Yngve Bersvendsen <bersvendsen@nsd.uib.no> asked:

> 

> >I am interested in alternative methods for tinnitus treatment;

> >acupuncture, naturopathic, nutrition, herbal etc

> >

> 

> Well, I'm not too terribly familiar with tinnitus - at least not

> personally.  But I am a Lurker on the alt.hypnosis newsgroup

> and I know that one of their more respected posters, Kevin Hogan, seems to have

> had success with treating tinnitus with

> hypnosis.

> 

> Try a DejaNews search for "Hypnosis and Tinnitus" with

> KHogan1652@aol.com as the author and you should find

> some information...

> 

> I'm not aware of a website for him, but I know he's written

> a book on the subject...

> 

> Hope this helps!

> 

> QT***

> m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

> San Francisco Bay

> Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qboats.htm





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Subject: Re: Alternative methods for tinnitus treatment?

From: Robert Frick <rfrick@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:46:54 -0500

--------

I found the following on Gingko Biloba for tinnitus:



Holgers et al. (1994), first using no control group, found 20%

improvement, which is not much larger than the typical placebo effect. 

With a control group, Ginkgo Biloba was not statistically significantly

better than the control group.  However, there were only a few number of

subjects, so Ginkgo Biloba could have had a small effect.  In contrast

to these lackadaisical results, Meyer (1986) reported that Ginkgo Biloba

caused improvements for everyone.  Jastreboff et al. (1997) found that

Ginkgo Biloba reduced the tinnitus produced by giving salicylate to

rats.  (And I do wonder how tinnitus is measured in rats -- by measuring

auditory neural activity presumably.)



Robert Frick





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Subject: Re: Alternative methods for tinnitus treatment?

From: "BJF" <doa1@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 02:11:52 GMT

--------

Confusing...I recently starting taking GB, and I had to stop because it

caused my ears to 'ring' (tinnitus)

 including weird headaches... Isn't that caused by GB's vasodilating

properties?

Robert Frick wrote in message <369039AE.7A884873@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu>...

>I found the following on Gingko Biloba for tinnitus:

>

>Holgers et al. (1994), first using no control group, found 20%

>improvement, which is not much larger than the typical placebo effect.

>With a control group, Ginkgo Biloba was not statistically significantly

>better than the control group.  However, there were only a few number of

>subjects, so Ginkgo Biloba could have had a small effect.  In contrast

>to these lackadaisical results, Meyer (1986) reported that Ginkgo Biloba

>caused improvements for everyone.  Jastreboff et al. (1997) found that

>Ginkgo Biloba reduced the tinnitus produced by giving salicylate to

>rats.  (And I do wonder how tinnitus is measured in rats -- by measuring

>auditory neural activity presumably.)

>

>Robert Frick









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Subject: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Ken Kozak <kenkozak@crl.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 05:59:06 -0800

--------

I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

pressure while I work on the causes?



Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

this?



Thanks.



Ken







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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:44:22 -0500

--------

Garlic is an excellent food for reducing blood pressure, and is readily

available in quality, odorless capsules.

 

     Donald Levell, M.H.





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 01:32:41 GMT

--------

For me, the greatest improvement came with exercise.  A "side effect" of the 

exercise was weight loss, which I'm sure improved the BP.  But, before I 

started a regular exercise program, I did have some improvement using an 

infusion of the leaves and flowers.  I had experienced no change whatsoever 

using a tincture made from the berries.  Garlic is said to be quite useful, 

also, but I was unable to test that as I have always used it simply as an 

overall protective, preventative measure.  Diana

 



In article <368E262A.DAA924C0@crl.com>, Ken Kozak <kenkozak@crl.com> wrote:

>I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

>are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

>pressure while I work on the causes?

>

>Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

>started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

>this?

>

>Thanks.

>

>Ken

>





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:16:50 GMT

--------

Whoops! <laughing>  I just noticed that I forgot to put the herb that I used 

the "leaves and flowers" of.  It was the hawthorn plant.  Sorry.  Diana



In article <AOzj2.149$rX2.1424@news13.ispnews.com>, Diana_337@hotmail.com 

(Diana) wrote:

>For me, the greatest improvement came with exercise.  A "side effect" of the 

>exercise was weight loss, which I'm sure improved the BP.  But, before I 

>started a regular exercise program, I did have some improvement using an 

>infusion of the leaves and flowers.  I had experienced no change whatsoever 

>using a tincture made from the berries.  Garlic is said to be quite useful, 

>also, but I was unable to test that as I have always used it simply as an 

>overall protective, preventative measure.  Diana

> 

>



>>

>>Ken

>>





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net>

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:38:49 GMT

--------

Diana wrote:

> 

> Whoops! <laughing>  I just noticed that I forgot to put the herb that I used

> the "leaves and flowers" of.  It was the hawthorn plant.  Sorry.  Diana

> 

> In article <AOzj2.149$rX2.1424@news13.ispnews.com>, Diana_337@hotmail.com

> (Diana) wrote:

> >For me, the greatest improvement came with exercise.  A "side effect" of the

> >exercise was weight loss, which I'm sure improved the BP.  But, before I

> >started a regular exercise program, I did have some improvement using an

> >infusion of the leaves and flowers.  I had experienced no change whatsoever

> >using a tincture made from the berries.  Garlic is said to be quite useful,

> >also, but I was unable to test that as I have always used it simply as an

> >overall protective, preventative measure.  Diana

> >

> >

> 

> >>

> >>Ken

> >>

is this like the indian hawthorne perrenial?





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 03:47:33 GMT

--------

In article <368FD489.3341@livingston.net>, jwwright wrote:

>Diana wrote:

>> 

>> Whoops! <laughing>  I just noticed that I forgot to put the herb that I used

>> the "leaves and flowers" of.  It was the hawthorn plant.  Sorry.  Diana

>> 



>> >>Ken

>> >>

>is this like the indian hawthorne perrenial?

Got me.  It's a tree.  It's sort of thorny and has white flowers and red 

berries, if that helps any.  Diana





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Rrringrill@aol.com

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:03:50 GMT

--------

Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana) wrote:



>In article <368FD489.3341@livingston.net>, jwwright wrote:

>>Diana wrote:

>>> 

>>> Whoops! <laughing>  I just noticed that I forgot to put the herb that I used

>>> the "leaves and flowers" of.  It was the hawthorn plant.  Sorry.  Diana

>>> 

>

>>> >>Ken

>>> >>

>>is this like the indian hawthorne perrenial?

>Got me.  It's a tree.  It's sort of thorny and has white flowers and red 

>berries, if that helps any.  Diana



The plant is a flowering tree known as Hawthorn, English Hawthorn,

Haw, and Maythorn. The proper name is Crataegus monogyna. The flowers

are white and produce red berries. 



The berries have been used to reduce blood pressure and slow

tachycardia. There is some indication that the berries reduce plaque

buildup with arteriosclerosis. Recently there has been some

controversy over which is better, berries or leaves. I take berries

and a friend takes leaves. He saw no effect with the berries and

switched to a preparation with leaves and flowers. He is now getting

the same effects I do with the berries.



As a caveat I offer that you must let your doctor know you are taking

Hawthorn. It can interact directly with ace inhibitors, and may

interact with calcium channel blockers.  



Rrringrill







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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 01:57:23 GMT

--------

>I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

>are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

>pressure while I work on the causes?

>

>Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

>started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

>this?

>

>Thanks.

>

>Ken



Motherwort tincture has been known to help some folks.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:57:20 -0500

--------

Try a low sodium diet.



Ken Kozak wrote:



> I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

> are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

> pressure while I work on the causes?

>

> Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

> started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

> this?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Ken











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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:50:43 +1030

--------

Hawthorn and Motherwort are both good herbs that can be used, as too is

garlic.  Instead of using sodium chloride (common table salt), try to

get some unrefined sea salt.  It has all of the chloride salts in it,

and essential minerals, inc iodine, and you can use it regularly and in

large amounts without the side effects of sodium chloride.  By itself it

has been known to dramatically reduce Bp.  One of the easiest diets I

have found to follow is the fit for life diet, or I think you guys in

America know it as the Natural Hygiene movement?  It basically means

that you have only fruit for breakfast, and you can shed kilos quickly,

but it works best in summer (which it is here in Australia), but for you

it is winter, isn't it) - please excuse my ignorance!!!

Regards,

Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com



Jeffrey Karp wrote:

> 

> Try a low sodium diet.

> 

> Ken Kozak wrote:

> 

> > I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

> > are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

> > pressure while I work on the causes?

> >

> > Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

> > started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

> > this?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Ken





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:45:08 -0500

--------

Michelle wrote in message <368F609B.1ACEFDA2@hotmail.com>...

>Instead of using sodium chloride (common table salt), try to

>get some unrefined sea salt.  It has all of the chloride salts in it,

>and essential minerals, inc iodine, and you can use it regularly and in

>large amounts without the side effects of sodium chloride.  By itself it

>has been known to dramatically reduce Bp.



Sodium chloride still constitutes well over 50% (more like 75-80%) of the

minerals in sea salt, so it is not a way to reduce sodium intake.  I would

certainly NEVER recommend its use "in large amounts" by anyone suffering

from high blood pressure!!!  That's a potentially deadly prescription.



As for it's being able to *reduce* blood pressure "by itself", I strongly

suspect that is absolutely unsubstantiated drivel, unless of course you can

site me the paper in the peer reviewed journal in which it appeared..hmm?



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:46:55 -0600

--------

Richard Ogden <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> wrote:

>

>Sodium chloride still constitutes well over 50% (more like 75-80%) of the

>minerals in sea salt, so it is not a way to reduce sodium intake.  I would

>certainly NEVER recommend its use "in large amounts" by anyone suffering

>from high blood pressure!!!  That's a potentially deadly prescription.



Much more than that, in the US, anyway.  Federal law stipulates that

food-grade salt be not less than 97.5 percent sodium chloride, regardless

of the source.  Sea salt is only slightly less refined than regular

table salt, and is the biggest ripoff in the health food business.



-- 

  jamie  (mjwm@austin.rr.com)



  		"There's a seeker born every minute."





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Subject: Re: Whats good for high blood pressure?

From: Robert Hopper <RobertHopper@Compuserve.com>

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:53:41 -0500

--------

Ken Kozak wrote:

> 

> I know my problem comes from overweight and lack of exercise, but

> are there any supplements I could take to help lower my blood

> pressure while I work on the causes?

> 

> Someone mentioned that her blood pressure went down when she

> started using Valerian for sleeping problems.  Can you comment on

> this?

> 

> Thanks.

> 

> Ken

You might want to read Robert Atkins Book. "Revolutionary New Diet". I

followed his diet and lowered my blood pressure and colesterol.





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Subject: Aloe Vera

From: "kingsand" <barbara@kingsand.demon.co.uk>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:00:02 -0000

--------

Many thanks to you all for all your messages about Aloe Vera, they have been

most helpful.



Do any of you know how to take cuttings?  I broke off a leaf and planted it

after putting it in rooting compound, but it has died.  Would a leaf grow if

it was broken off or does it need a piece of root as well.  Would appreciate

your comments.



Barbara











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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 18:12:42 GMT

--------

"kingsand" <barbara@kingsand.demon.co.uk> wrote:



>Many thanks to you all for all your messages about Aloe Vera, they have been

>most helpful.

>

>Do any of you know how to take cuttings? 



You need to take a chunk of stem too - the new roots will comr

from the joints in the stem.  Let the cutting air-dry for a few

days to callus over the cut area, then plant in moist soil.

Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

We're just a bunch of typed letters on a screen and we hope none of us is seriously deranged!





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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:37:35 GMT

--------

>Do any of you know how to take cuttings?  I broke off a leaf and planted it

>after putting it in rooting compound, but it has died.  Would a leaf grow if

>it was broken off or does it need a piece of root as well.  Would appreciate

>your comments.



Barbara,



Aloe is propogated by "pups", little plants that spring up around the "mother"

plant.  It is not like other succulents that can be propogated by a leaf

cutting.  Best bet, get one in a store (Aloe Vera barbadensis) and go from

there.



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:23:27 +0000

--------

AloeDrinks wrote:



> >Do any of you know how to take cuttings?  I broke off a leaf and planted it

> >after putting it in rooting compound, but it has died.  Would a leaf grow if

> >it was broken off or does it need a piece of root as well.  Would appreciate

> >your comments.

>

> Barbara,

>

> Aloe is propogated by "pups", little plants that spring up around the "mother"

> plant.  It is not like other succulents that can be propogated by a leaf

> cutting.  Best bet, get one in a store (Aloe Vera barbadensis) and go from

> there.

>

> David H. Honaker

> Aloe Vera Products

> http://www.aloe-products.com



I have about 8 aloe plants now that came from 1 half leaf.

I got a leaf for a friend who had some bites and never got to give it to them.

I stuck it in a glass of water for a while (maybe 6months). Once I noticed a few

roots comming from the aloe I planted it in the ground.

It is much easyer to wait for the pups to come up and plant them though.



Although more difficult it is not impossible to grow aloe from a leaf.



IME, YMMV,

Simon.









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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:40:47 GMT

--------

>did you know that you can ingest the gel of aloe to relieve temporary

>constipation. just a little though. put it in the blender with some juice

>because raw is bitter.



There are stabilized, potent drinks that are essentially identical to the raw

gel in the leaf.  But be careful to not drink too much.  A little can relieve

constipation.  Too much, though, can actually cause cramping on some people.



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:43:17 GMT

--------

>Leaves will

>usually last a few days (even without wrapping or refrigeration; altho

>refrigeration and wrapping will likely extend the potency and life of the

>leaf



This is correct IF and only if the inner gel isn't exposed to the air.  Once

the gel is exposed to oxygen it breaks down and loses it's nutritional and

health benefits after four hours.



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Aloe Vera

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:34:33 -0500

--------

AloeDrinks wrote in message <19990108084317.20407.00009403@ng97.aol.com>...

>

>This is correct IF and only if the inner gel isn't exposed to the air.

Once

>the gel is exposed to oxygen it breaks down and loses it's nutritional and

>health benefits after four hours.

>

>David H. Honaker

>Aloe Vera Products

>http://www.aloe-products.com





Really?  Gee, what happens to those "20 minerals,  seven...essential amino

acids, 11...secondary amino acids, Vitamins A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C and E."

Do they just evaporate?



Well, this doesn't sound right at all.  As far as the laxative properties

go, the product is usually air-dried to a dark reddish-brown mass - that

generally takes a bit longer than 4 hours ;-)  And the laxative properties

are mainly contained in the yellowish layer beneath the skin that is removed

in making this product.  (The aloin is also extremely bitter, which would

not be appropriate in a product designed to be drunk).



And I have used leaves that have been cut and left lying around on the

kitchen counter for days with good results on burns.



So I'm not quite sure why you make the assertion about the "four hours".



A few other questions, as long as we're on the topic.



On your site, you make the assertion that "Barbadensis is proven to be the

most potent, nutritious of all the [200] species of Aloe."  Do you really

expect me to believe that you (or anyone) actually tested all 400 species to

come up with this data?



And you say under the heading "Proven Results" that laboratory tests show

that your extracted gel is "essentially identical" (a term with no legal

definition, hence "essentially" meaningless) and still don't give any proof

of any results at all.



Now, I'm not knocking bottled aloe gel.  I've used it myself on bad burns

with results I considered nearly miraculous, and I always keep some around

for sunburn, so I don't have to massacre my plants.  And I would certainly

want the best quality aloe product if I were in need of one.  But the only

reason you give for drinking the stuff is the nutritional content, which I

can obtain much more easily (and pleasantly!) from a good diet.



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Excessive reaction to the cold - clarification

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:35:22 +1030

--------

There may be a couple of things your friend can try.

Before bed, get her to put her feet into cold water for 5-10 mins, then

alternate to hot for 5-10 mins, then cold again.  Do this 4-5 times

ending on the hot.



Herbally, try some ginger (dry). It is a peripheral circulatory

stimulent.  A small amount of cayenne would also help.  Does your friend

have low Blood Pressure?  Is they do, use a small amount of Hawthorn.

If you want some more personal help,please feel free to e-mail me.

Regards,

Michelle.



aislingr@hotmail.com





Jim wrote:

> 

> In the original posting (repeated below) I give the impression that it

> is just her hands and feet but its her whole body that feels the cold

> and its only in the 40's (f).

> 

> mpd@mindspring.com (Jim) wrote:

> 

> >A friend of mine has times when cold just really seems to go

> >completely through her (just an expression; you probably know what I

> >mean) and has real trouble warming up. Until she goes in for her

> >annual exam in February, is there anything she can take that would

> >improve her circulation to the hands and feet? Seems to me that I read

> >somewhere that epo (evening primrose oil) can be good for this

> >problem. Have you had this problem and found an easy cure for the

> >symptoms? Thanks!





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Subject: Re: Question

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:42:23 +1030

--------

Calendula mother tincture - antiseptic and can be used for cuts, grazes

etc;

Arnica ointment - for sprains, strains and bruises (do not use on broken

skin);

Comfrey ointment - for severe sprains;

Rescue Remedy - tincture and cream - for virtually everything.

Homoeopathically, you could have:

Arnica 30c - for sprains, strains etc;

Hypericum 30c - for nerve damages, ie shutting fingers in car doors etc;

Ledum 30c - for bites, puncture wounds etc - will prevent tetanus!

Apis 6x - for bee stings 

This is what my VERY basic travelfirst aid kit contains.



Hope it is of some help,

Regards,

Michelle



Nancy wrote:

> 

> If you were going to setup a first aid  kit/medicine cabinet containing only

> alternative medicine (herbs/EO's, etc) what would it contain and why?

> 

> TIA,

> Nancy





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Subject: Re: Question

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 14:32:47 GMT

--------

>If you were going to setup a first aid  kit/medicine cabinet containing only

>alternative medicine (herbs/EO's, etc) what would it contain and why?

>

>TIA,

>Nancy



Tinctures:

Hypericum perforatum - muscle aches

Leonorus cardiaca - PMS, hot flashes

Ligusticum porterii - allergic reactions (bad ones)

Echinacea augustifolia - infections

Artemisia absinthium - food poisoning

Scutellaria lateriflora - pain/sleep

Yarrow - bug repellant

Oil:

Plantago spp - bug bites, cuts, etc

Hypericum perforatum - sunscreen



That is what I carry with me. My medicine cabinet is much larger.



What's an EO?



Belinda





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Subject: st johns wort

From: bloodyroze@aol.comColleen (BloodyRoze)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 14:17:51 GMT

--------

hi....i have been using st johns wort for 3 weeks now 300 mg 3 times a day. i

have found significant results . i am not as nervous or stressed out. i really

wish i had tried this earlier in my life! i feel like a normal person.=) i have

also considered adding kava. any suggestions???? 





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Subject: Re: st johns wort

From: "ma pickle" <ma pickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:00:31 -0800

--------

Kava and SJW work well together. If you are feeling anxious I would try the

kava.









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Subject: Re: st johns wort

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 16:12:11 GMT

--------

>Kava and SJW work well together. If you are feeling anxious I would try the

>kava.



I use SJW too, with fabulous results.  I only

use Kava sometimes if I'm wound up at the end of the day, to sleep.  Valerian,

also.

Usually I only need the SJW, though.



Robin





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Subject: Re: st johns wort

From: phragmites@my-dejanews.com (Kenneth Masner)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:21:32 GMT

--------

Be a bit more scientific and try the SJW for 6 weeks and more before

adding on something else.



On 2 Jan 1999 14:17:51 GMT, bloodyroze@aol.comColleen (BloodyRoze)

wrote:



>hi....i have been using st johns wort for 3 weeks now 300 mg 3 times a day. i

>have found significant results . i am not as nervous or stressed out. i really

>wish i had tried this earlier in my life! i feel like a normal person.=) i have

>also considered adding kava. any suggestions???? 







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Subject: Re: st johns wort

From: paprboy55@aol.com (Paprboy55)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 07:52:22 GMT

--------

There are good combinations of SJW and Kava out there that work well. Really,

though, SJW is all you need most of the time. Don't do Kava alone in great

amounts.



Doug







>hi....i have been using st johns wort for 3 weeks now 300 mg 3 times a day. i

>have found significant results . i am not as nervous or stressed out. i

>really

>wish i had tried this earlier in my life! i feel like a normal person.=) i

>have

>also considered adding kava. any suggestions???? 

>





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Subject: Re: alcohol-free

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 14:29:28 GMT

--------

>If the person is a recovering alcoholic, no alcohol can be used in the

>tincture 

>or else it would be considered a relapse.  In general, recovering alcoholics 

>don't even cook with alcohol or trust boiling water to evaporate it.

>

>Orlando



Depends on what "recovering" means to you. Some think they are always

recovering. I wouldn't have used alcohol for the first 3 or 4 years but now, 24

years sober, I have no problem using tinctures with alcohol.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Legulia

From: "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:45:02 -0600

--------

I don't know what herb this is. I wouldn't take ANY herb I didn't know

about. Every plant has some good points and some not so good, and I would

want to know both before I took it. Also sometimes two plants with names

that sound alike get confused. Or some parts are OK and others poisonous.

Like the people during WW II who ate rhubarb leaves and died of oxalis

poisoning.









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Subject: Canine arthritis help?

From: Jimmie Walker <jimmieb@texas.net>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:42:02 -0600

--------

Could anyone give advice on help for an older West Highland Terrier with

back problems other than Rimadyl which, although an antisteroidal

medication, still can cause kidney and liver problems? I know

glucosamine (sp?) is part of the medication but does anyone know of

other natural remedies? All help would be appreciated.



Jimmie

(remove TX for email replies)







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Subject: Re: Canine arthritis help?

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:35:49 GMT

--------

>Could anyone give advice on help for an older West Highland Terrier with

>back problems other than Rimadyl which, although an antisteroidal

>medication, still can cause kidney and liver problems? I know

>glucosamine (sp?) is part of the medication but does anyone know of

>other natural remedies? All help would be appreciated.

>



Aloe Vera works on people, and some vets use it for animals too.  It's worth a

shot!



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: St Johns Wort precautions

From: "Decker" <Decker@hotmail.com>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 17:51:01 GMT

--------

Hello,

I'm new to the group, so please excuse me if this has been covered before. 

Alot of people are using St. Johns Wort with great results.  I am

considering it myself, and know quite a few prople who swear by it.  Before

I start taking anything, herbal or otherwise, I always like to find out as

much as I can about it.  In reading up on SJW though, I did find some

precautions that I was not aware of, and i would lke to pass along. 

According to book entitled "Healing Herbs"  when SJW is taken in

combination with certain foods and drugs, dangerously high blood pressure

can result.  The information I read said when taking SJW, do not take

amphetamines, narcotics, the amino acids tryptophan and tyrosine, diet

pills, asthma inhalants, nasal decongestants or cold or hay fever

medication. Also, don't drink wine, beer or coffee or eat salami, yogurt,

chocolate, fava beans or smoked or pickled items.  I think my biggest

problem would be the lack of coffee!  Anyway, I thought this information

was worth passing along.  



I recently started to look more to alternative/natural sources for health

products, and was very glad when I came across this group.  It is not

always easy to get unbiased or non commercial oriented information.   I am

sure this group will be a big help to me.

Decker





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:04:16 GMT

--------

As one who needs to keep a check on BP levels, I take St. Johns Wort without 

any problem and eat many of the foods listed without increase in BP.  However, 

amphetamines, decongestants, cold, hay fever meds, etc, will raise BP 

*without* taking SJW.  Take those things, and you can say that drinking milk 

with them can result in dangerously high BP levels!  Diana





In article <01be3678$b9290040$4fc9a4c6@CDRIVE.SWS.NB.CA>, "Decker" 

<Decker@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hello,

>I'm new to the group, so please excuse me if this has been covered before. 

>Alot of people are using St. Johns Wort with great results.  I am

>considering it myself, and know quite a few prople who swear by it.  Before

>I start taking anything, herbal or otherwise, I always like to find out as

>much as I can about it.  In reading up on SJW though, I did find some

>precautions that I was not aware of, and i would lke to pass along. 

>According to book entitled "Healing Herbs"  when SJW is taken in

>combination with certain foods and drugs, dangerously high blood pressure

>can result.  The information I read said when taking SJW, do not take

>amphetamines, narcotics, the amino acids tryptophan and tyrosine, diet

>pills, asthma inhalants, nasal decongestants or cold or hay fever

>medication. Also, don't drink wine, beer or coffee or eat salami, yogurt,

>chocolate, fava beans or smoked or pickled items.  I think my biggest

>problem would be the lack of coffee!  Anyway, I thought this information

>was worth passing along.  

>

>I recently started to look more to alternative/natural sources for health

>products, and was very glad when I came across this group.  It is not

>always easy to get unbiased or non commercial oriented information.   I am

>sure this group will be a big help to me.

>Decker





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 19:23:30 GMT

--------

> when SJW is taken in

>combination with certain foods and drugs, dangerously high blood pressure

>can result.  The information I re



I've never run accross this info, but I have

read, in the book Hypericum and Depression,

that SJW shouldn't be taken if you are alreay taking meds for high bood

pressure or any

of the MAO inhibitors.  SJW will not cause

high blood pressure.  About the only real warning about the herb is that it

causes more sensitivity to the sun in some people.  It's an extremely safe

herb.



Robin





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: briran <briran@postoffice.swbell.net>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 18:38:16 -0600

--------

MaVinci2 wrote:

> high blood pressure.  About the only real warning about the herb is that it

> causes more sensitivity to the sun in some people.  It's an extremely safe

> herb.

> 

> Robin



i disagree.  herbs are generally an untested, if effective phenomenon. 

the fact is, we (as a society) simply haven't put together large enough

studies to come up with a list of possible side effects.  as a data

point, i got raging headaches - headaches i would classify as migraines

as they were exponentially worse than any other headaches i have ever

had - from sjw after only 3-4 days on it.  they went away within a

couple days of abstinence from the plant.  i doubt that i had a "normal"

reaction, however, it is unwise to assume that any herb or drug can only

cause one specific side effect.



briran

-- 

i believe in ufos.  i see *lots* of planes i can't identify.





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: paprboy55@aol.com (Paprboy55)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 07:50:11 GMT

--------

Here's another vote for SJW. I have taken it 3 times a day for about 3 months

with no increase in blood pressure, and I do drink coffee in moderation and eat

chocolate occasionally. Other than the sensitivity to light, I have noted no

adverse affects.



Doug







>i disagree.  herbs are generally an untested, if effective phenomenon. 

>the fact is, we (as a society) simply haven't put together large enough

>studies to come up with a list of possible side effects.  as a data

>point, i got raging headaches - headaches i would classify as migraines

>as they were exponentially worse than any other headaches i have ever

>had - from sjw after only 3-4 days on it.  they went away within a

>couple days of abstinence from the plant.  i doubt that i had a "normal"

>reaction, however, it is unwise to assume that any herb or drug can only

>cause one specific side effect.

>







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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: "Orphiuchus" <demonknite@NOSPAMbigfoot.com>

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:21:25 GMT

--------



MaVinci2 wrote in message

>I've never run accross this info, but I have

>read, in the book Hypericum and Depression,

>that SJW shouldn't be taken if you are alreay taking meds for high bood

>pressure or any

>of the MAO inhibitors.





How about taking SJW with 5-htp?









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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: Fran Hladinec <marth20@banet.net>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:23:06 -0500

--------

Orphiuchus wrote:

> 

> MaVinci2 wrote in message

> >I've never run accross this info, but I have

> >read, in the book Hypericum and Depression,

> >that SJW shouldn't be taken if you are alreay taking meds for high bood

> >pressure or any

> >of the MAO inhibitors.

> 

I'm fairly new to all this, but have been taking SJW for a few months

now as well as high blood pressure meds with no difficulty, in fact

since stopping prescription meds for hormones, my blood pressure has

decreased some

Fran





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: "Mark B. McMahon" <eremon@flash.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:22:04 GMT

--------

I have used the two together and found good results





Orphiuchus wrote:



> MaVinci2 wrote in message

> >I've never run accross this info, but I have

> >read, in the book Hypericum and Depression,

> >that SJW shouldn't be taken if you are alreay taking meds for high bood

> >pressure or any

> >of the MAO inhibitors.

>

> How about taking SJW with 5-htp?







==========

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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: Andrea <atoole@chat.carleton.ca>

Date: 2 Jan 1999 20:20:54 GMT

--------

Decker wrote:



> I recently started to look more to alternative/natural sources for health

> products, and was very glad when I came across this group.  It is not

> always easy to get unbiased or non commercial oriented information.   I am

> sure this group will be a big help to me.

> Decker



 For SJW info, check out the book "St. John's Wort: Nature's Blues

Buster" by Dr. Hyla Cass. It is very thorough and has lots of case

studies. You can check it out at http://www.doctorcass.com/index.html .

Here are some URLs about SJW that I have bookmarked (but I don't

remember what they say): 

 http://www.eclecticphysician.com/hypericum.shtml#Action/Effects

 http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5942/geninfo.htm

 http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ



HTH.

 andrea

-- 

Andrea Toole

Mass Comm IV, Carleton University; CUSA PAM Rep '98-'99; NUG rep '98-'99

 "Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it." [Douglas Adams]

(quote dedicated to all the Linux geeks)





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: phragmites@my-dejanews.com (Kenneth Masner)

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:23:32 GMT

--------

free excellent book at www.hypericum.com by a responsible MD



On 2 Jan 1999 20:20:54 GMT, Andrea <atoole@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:



>Decker wrote:

>

>> I recently started to look more to alternative/natural sources for health

>> products, and was very glad when I came across this group.  It is not

>> always easy to get unbiased or non commercial oriented information.   I am

>> sure this group will be a big help to me.

>> Decker

>

> For SJW info, check out the book "St. John's Wort: Nature's Blues

>Buster" by Dr. Hyla Cass. It is very thorough and has lots of case

>studies. You can check it out at http://www.doctorcass.com/index.html .

>Here are some URLs about SJW that I have bookmarked (but I don't

>remember what they say): 

> http://www.eclecticphysician.com/hypericum.shtml#Action/Effects

> http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5942/geninfo.htm

> http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ

>

>HTH.

> andrea







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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: bob@bob.com (Bob)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 16:55:11 GMT

--------

On 2 Jan 1999 20:20:54 GMT, Andrea <atoole@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:



> http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ

>



This appears to be a soundly reasearched report on SJW.

But it warns against taking SJW with any MAO inhibitors.

There seems to be no agreement as to whether SJW is a MAO inhibitor or not.

Yohimbe is a MAO inhibitor.

I have not yet tried the 2 together. Has anyone else tried it and survived?







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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: Andrea <atoole@chat.carleton.ca>

Date: 3 Jan 1999 19:44:12 GMT

--------

Bob wrote:



> This appears to be a soundly reasearched report on SJW.

> But it warns against taking SJW with any MAO inhibitors.

 

 I'm told (by the author of the book I mentioned) that SJW CAN be taken

with MAO inhibitors. 



-- 

Andrea Toole

Mass Comm IV, Carleton University; CUSA PAM Rep '98-'99; NUG rep '98-'99

 "Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it." [Douglas Adams]

(quote dedicated to all the Linux geeks)





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: briran <briran@postoffice.swbell.net>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:54:10 -0600

--------

Andrea wrote:

> 

> Bob wrote:

> 

> > This appears to be a soundly reasearched report on SJW.

> > But it warns against taking SJW with any MAO inhibitors.

> 

>  I'm told (by the author of the book I mentioned) that SJW CAN be taken

> with MAO inhibitors.



<soapbox>



this sort of conflicting information, coupled with the lack of

scientific studies (although sjw has more studies of it than some other

herbs) of various herbs' side effects is exactly why people should not

assume any particular herb can only do good for everyone.  



</soapbox>



briran



-- 

i believe in ufos.  i see *lots* of planes i can't identify.





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: bob@bob.com (Bob)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 13:42:54 GMT

--------

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:54:10 -0600, briran <briran@postoffice.swbell.net>

wrote:



>

>this sort of conflicting information, coupled with the lack of

>scientific studies (although sjw has more studies of it than some other

>herbs) of various herbs' side effects is exactly why people should not

>assume any particular herb can only do good for everyone.  

>



Amen to that. I found the One-A-Day website yesterday. I was curious as to the

dosage they recommend for their SJW product. Curiously, they say to take 2 a

day :-). 

More confusion from their warning which says not to take SJW if you are taking

any MAO Inhibitors.

But others say it is OK. What is a person to believe?





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Subject: Re: St Johns Wort precautions

From: "PAULS MALL" <CARNAC@IX.NETCOM.COM>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:11:54 -0500

--------

I took SJW for 7-8 months without any problem at all- until I went out into

the sun.  There is definitely a problem with photosensitivity with SOME

people. I happen to be one of those people.  It is a terrible , painful ,

tingling sensation on the hands and feet(some kind of neuropathy). But it

stops when you  stop the SJW.  I know that it is theorized that SJW is

somehow chemically similar to an MAO inhibitor which accounts for the

dietary precautions you have listed, but I did not have any side effects in

all the time I was taking it from any food(and I did not observe the MAOI

diet at all.) I think it is a great alternative to prescription

antidepressants -and no sexual side effects.  I am back on it(winter)- until

I hit the beach again.  AB





Decker wrote in message <01be3678$b9290040$4fc9a4c6@CDRIVE.SWS.NB.CA>...

>Hello,

>I'm new to the group, so please excuse me if this has been covered before.

>Alot of people are using St. Johns Wort with great results.  I am

>considering it myself, and know quite a few prople who swear by it.  Before

>I start taking anything, herbal or otherwise, I always like to find out as

>much as I can about it.  In reading up on SJW though, I did find some

>precautions that I was not aware of, and i would lke to pass along.

>According to book entitled "Healing Herbs"  when SJW is taken in

>combination with certain foods and drugs, dangerously high blood pressure

>can result.  The information I read said when taking SJW, do not take

>amphetamines, narcotics, the amino acids tryptophan and tyrosine, diet

>pills, asthma inhalants, nasal decongestants or cold or hay fever

>medication. Also, don't drink wine, beer or coffee or eat salami, yogurt,

>chocolate, fava beans or smoked or pickled items.  I think my biggest

>problem would be the lack of coffee!  Anyway, I thought this information

>was worth passing along.

>

>I recently started to look more to alternative/natural sources for health

>products, and was very glad when I came across this group.  It is not

>always easy to get unbiased or non commercial oriented information.   I am

>sure this group will be a big help to me.

>Decker









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Subject: Dong Quai - cured my eye twitch (??!!)

From: smalt4@aol.com (SMalt4)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 19:04:30 GMT

--------

Can anyone explain why Dong Quai would have helped my eye stop twitching?  I

started taking it after reading it was good in general for women, and noticed a

twitch I had developed in my eye improved greatly.  I figured it was just

coincidence until I ran out of Dong for a day, the twitch came back and then

when I took more it subsided again!!!

Sue





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To: SMalt4 <smalt4@aol.com>

Subject: Re: Dong Quai - cured my eye twitch (??!!)

From: "Y.K. Law" <yklaw@hkstar.com>

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:58:07 +0800

--------

SMalt4 gDG



> Can anyone explain why Dong Quai would have helped my eye stop

> twitching?  I

> started taking it after reading it was good in general for women, and

> noticed a

> twitch I had developed in my eye improved greatly.  I figured it was

> just

> coincidence until I ran out of Dong for a day, the twitch came back

> and then

> when I took more it subsided again!!!

> Sue



According to TCM, Dong Quai is warm in nature, supplementing blood,

nourishing yin (blood is a form of yin amongst others).



Twitching is a phenomon of yang (yang can be in form of vitality, heat,

superficial, etc.)  Twitch is a form of Wind (the phenomenon in which we

saw the wood  (liver) is moving).   When we refer twitching as a

phenomenon of Wind, that means either yang of liver being too much or

yin of liver being not enough to damp the yang.



Eyes are the outlet of liver and liver stores blood (according to TCM

diagnosis theory) as mentioned above blood is a form of yin amongst

others.



Eye twitch implies that the liver might be running short of yin (or can

be short of blood).  Symptoms give us different possibilities, we

complete our diagnosis by minimizing them.



Using only Dong Quai repeatedly to cure you eye twitch can be effective

but depends on your body condition it can also lead to some other

symptoms related to the overwarm of blood, like bleeding from nose,

teeth, anywhere or headache or rash, etc.   In this case, should be

matched with other herb cool in nature and nourish the yin of liver.

Although it works but I don't think Dong Quai is best suited for your

case.  I prefer to use Ho sou wu (tuber of multiflower knotweed or Radix

Polygoni multiflori).   However, I recommend people to go through a

complete process of diagnosis or seek for professional's advice before

taking any herbs.



Above is according to TCM theories.   Indeed, studies of western science

might explain in their own point of view.



Regards

Y.K. Law

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Subject: Re: Dong Quai - cured my eye twitch (??!!)

From: bloodyroze@aol.com (BloodyRoze)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 03:16:15 GMT

--------

the twitch in your eye is caused from stress.what does dong quai do ?





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Subject: Sinus Congestion

From: "Ron & Denise" <rrco@ptd.net>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 19:19:57 GMT

--------

Hello folks. Any ideas regarding herbs that will help reduce sinus and nasal

congestion? Thanks for your help.

Denise











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Subject: Re: Sinus Congestion

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:52:22 -0500

--------

Try oil of oregano. Capiscum also helps.



Ron & Denise wrote:



> Hello folks. Any ideas regarding herbs that will help reduce sinus and nasal

> congestion? Thanks for your help.

> Denise











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Subject: Agar Agar - for hypercatabolism

From: Matthew <mdean@online.no>

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 23:05:13 +0200

--------

I read that agar agar could be good for hypercatabolism - acting as a

glycosamineglycanes (heprain, heparinoids) precursor. It specified a spoonful

or two a day (to the best of my recollection).



I believe it specified agar agar from algae.



a)I was wondering if this would be the same agar agar sold in a lot of shops

for making gelatine (this agar agar comes from kelp/seaweed as far as I am

aware, but I'm not sure)  If not, do you know what it is called i.e. does it

have another name etc?



b)If it is the same how does one comsume it - this agar agar(one I found in

the kitchen) says add 990grms water to 10 grms of the power -> mix-> boil

gently -> cool -> 1kg Agar-Agar jelly) - that's great but I hate gelatine -

would it be safe just to wash down a spoon or two with plenty of water?



Any information on any of the above would be greatly appreciated



Matthew





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Subject: Noni Juice

From: ryannet@aol.com (Ryan Net)

Date: 2 Jan 1999 21:43:00 GMT

--------

I am looking for others who have testimonials to share regarding Noni Juice

from Tahiti.



http://www.tahitian-miracle.com





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Subject: Re: Noni Juice

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:10:47 GMT

--------

On 2 Jan 1999 21:43:00 GMT, ryannet@aol.com (Ryan Net) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>I am looking for others who have testimonials to share regarding Noni Juice

>from Tahiti.



It's a miracle! I don't have -any- money left!



Cheers

Henriette



--

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Subject: Re: Preventing Long Term Problems after Paragliding Accident?

From: "Miss Mim" <missmim@chickasaw.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 01:46:49 GMT

--------

Corn silk tea or capsules will help remove the swelling. 

Boil a quart of water, remove from heat & add 1 tablespoon Arnica & 1

tablespoon of Comfrey root. Allow this to steep for aprox. 15 min.  You can

use this in a bucket of water to soak your ankles. Or dip a towel in this &

wrap the area. Comfrey root is also known as Boneset for it's ability to

help fuse the bones back together. Both herbs will help repair the blood

flow to the area And the Arnica will also help relieve the aches.

This can also be used in your bath to soak.

Comfrey can cause a rash in some people so start with a small purchase just

in case.

In this cold weather, if aching becomes a problem adding some Ginger,

prepared in the same manner, to a bath will warm you up & take the aches

away.

Yours

Mim  

Paul Sorenson <pauls@classware.com.au> wrote in article

<766ltq$52k$1@news.mel.aone.net.au>...

> Three months ago I had a paragliding accident and had many fractures,

most

> notable were verterbrae and ankles.

> 

> The surgeons say my ankles are likely to need "fusing" some time in the

> future due to arthritis etc.

> 

> a) I would be grateful for any advice re avoiding/minimising the long

term

> problems.

> 

> b) For my immediate recovery, my mobility is limited by swelling.  Do you

> have suggestions for limiting this?

> 

> Thank you

> 

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: chasteberry

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:04:46 -0600

--------

Honestly, given that headaches and acne and a host of other health problems

are caused by dehydration, it sounds as if she might not be getting enough

water. It does get very tiring to hear "8 glasses a day" but it's true.



Also, is her weight average, or is she small for her age and height? That

could be another factor in the menstrual irregularity. There may be a lot of

very simple physiological reasons for these health difficulties.



Hilary





Sallie wrote in message <01be048a$7b8a1f00$8a2447cf@msarmstktc.com>...

>I am wanting to give my daughter chasteberry because she has irregular

>periods. She has a period every 4 or 5 months and has mild acne. She also

>has headaches fairly frequently. Does anyone have any suggestions? She is

>17 years old. The doctor has put her on the pill and has told her that

>would clear up her skin.

>









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Subject: Re: chasteberry

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 00:29:29 GMT

--------

If she is a "typical" teen and worries about her weight she might be too thin,

you do need some fat. Also, excessive exercise might be a factor.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: chasteberry

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:32:34 +0800

--------

Some pill types can also be detrimental to the skin condition pending good

healthy diet. (just two cents worth)



J





Sallie wrote in message <01be048a$7b8a1f00$8a2447cf@msarmstktc.com>...

>I am wanting to give my daughter chasteberry because she has irregular

>periods. She has a period every 4 or 5 months and has mild acne. She also

>has headaches fairly frequently. Does anyone have any suggestions? She is

>17 years old. The doctor has put her on the pill and has told her that

>would clear up her skin.

>









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Subject: Re: chasteberry

From: herbs <herbs@i-zone.demon.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:16:04 +0000

--------

In article <01be048a$7b8a1f00$8a2447cf@msarmstktc.com>, Sallie

<msarmst@ktc.com> writes

>I am wanting to give my daughter chasteberry because she has irregular

>periods. She has a period every 4 or 5 months and has mild acne. She also

>has headaches fairly frequently. Does anyone have any suggestions? She is

>17 years old. The doctor has put her on the pill and has told her that

>would clear up her skin. 

>



Seesh.. Periods only every 4 or 5 MONTHS???! (Was this prior to her doc

putting her on the pill?)



Is she underweight? Has the cause of her irregular periods been

determined?

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Subject: Re: Fertility

From: sindara@pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:51:33 GMT

--------

When I was pregnant I inquired of certain herbs that one should stay

away from and those that would induce pregnancy.  Black cohosh I was

told is a very potent herb and should not be taken by a person without

consulting a doctor or a knowledgeable midwife.  I don't know about

the other herbs.



My advice, there are plenty of midwives and doctors who know about

natural fertility stuff.  I recently consulted my doctor for the same

thing after trying for 5 months.  He took certain blood levels of

certain chemicals at different points of my cycle to see if I was

ovulating and whether the right balance of chamicals was present. Talk

to your doctor before taking any herbs.  Also try the ovulation

predictors. They do work.



Sharon





"AKM" <KosalyPanni@worldnet.att.net> wrote:



>Hello everyone!

>I am beginning to do some research on increasing my odds at conceiving a

>child. I am 39 years old, have been trying now for 5 months with no success.

>I already have a son, so I know I can get pregnant.

>So far I have read some articles on the net and found certain herbs

>recommended, such as black cohosh, green tea, wild yam extract, dong quai

>root and vitex agnus cactus. The problem is, I have no idea how much to use

>of any of these and when in the cycle to use them. I would assume some of

>them enhance egg release and others help maintain the progesterone level

>thus preventing miscarriage.

>Can someone help me straighten these thing out?

>Thank you very much!!!

>Anna

>







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Subject: Re: morning sickness

From: sindara@pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:57:42 GMT

--------

I used tea biscuits and animal crackers a lot. Saltines and I didn't

get along so I used whole wheat and vegetable crackers.  I also gained

much relief by drinking Celestial Seasonings Bengal Spice tea. It

contains cinnamon, ginger, cardamom and some other spices.



Sharon 

>







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Subject: Help, My child has Lice

From: sindara@pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:12:30 GMT

--------

I am in need of suggestions to get rid of lice that are infant safe.

Somehow my 18 month got head lice. We tried Nix after consulting our

pediatrician, but after a week we are still pulling live bugs out of

hair. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Sharon





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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 12:57:11 GMT

--------

sindara@pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff) wrote:



>I am in need of suggestions to get rid of lice that are infant safe.

>Somehow my 18 month got head lice. We tried Nix after consulting our

>pediatrician, but after a week we are still pulling live bugs out of

>hair. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Go here and check the FAQ - (Frequently asked questions)

We cover the topic thoroughly about every two months. 

http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/



Here's my solution - and she could have gotten them 

fomr a play group, church nursery, or a visiting child:



  On any given day, round up all the kids from ALL the affected

families (play groups can pass this stuff around).

  Thoroughly saturate their hair with oil - any light salad oil,

with or without aromatic oils like tea-tree or lavender will do -

and cover their heads for 6-8 hours.

  Then shampoo it out - it will take several repeats, and you

might want to start with diluted dishwashing liquid.

  While the hair is processing, wash all their ribbons, barettes,

brushes, combs, etc. in HOT soapy water with a bit of ammonia.

If they aren't washable, seal them in plastic bags for a month.

  Wash all the bedding, or tumble-dry it on HOT for 15-20

minutes, and vacuum all the upholstered sofas and chairs.  throw

away the vacuum bag afterward.



For prevention, several persons have mentioned that blow-drying

apparently kills the lice before they can reproduce.  Lice don't

live long off the body.



Sources of headlice: movie seats (leaning heads on them), shared

combs and brushes, shared hats and hair decorations, pillows

(sleepovers or other occasions where the time between heads

hitting the pillow is relatively short), 

Tsu Dho Nimh 

abacaxi@hotmail.com

We're just a bunch of typed letters on a screen and we hope none of us is seriously deranged!





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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: elabeth@aol.comBloopQ (ELABETH)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 01:55:19 GMT

--------

>For prevention, several persons have mentioned that blow-drying

>apparently kills the lice before they can reproduce.  Lice don't

>live long off the body.



This WILL NOT work. I had lice in the 5th grade, and as it was the mid 1980's,

I blowdried my hair at every washing, but still it took almost a month to get

rid of those little buggers. Careful picking by hand of the nits after using

the oil to kill them worked in the end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                    ELABETH@aol.com     

Http://members.aol.com/ELABETH/index.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:53:55 -0600

--------

We went through this last fall. Don't waste your money on over the counter

pyrethrin remedies...they don't work on the resistant strains of lice that

are prevalent now. My daughter brought the headlice home from school and we

finally had to use the prescription strength Quell to get rid of them. Also,

I had to pick every nit off of every hair...you can dip a comb in vinegar

and it will loosen the nit so you can scrape it off with your fingernail. Or

you can anoint their head with olive oil and pick the nits off. This picking

procedure went on for about a week...very long, thick and curly hair.



Our pharmacist recommended 10 drops of pure tea tree oil to a teaspoon of

our regular shampoo for my husband...who is allergic to pyrethrins. He

shampooed and left on for ten minutes (do not get in eyes). This worked

beautifully for him and I did not even have to nit-pick his hair. I wish I

had done this for our daughter...but hindsight is always keener!





Gloria Stinson wrote in message

<5613-36A002BC-191@newsd-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Some folks have had success with tea tree oil.  There is also a shampoo

with tea tree.  Depends on the age of the child - tea tree is really

good for a lot of things - but has a strong odor.  Most health food

stores carry tea tree oil.  good luck - Jean



Carpe Diem!













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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:58:17 -0600

--------

I've got agree with this poster, too. My sister-in-law and her two kids

moved into our house in September and her daughter brought them here. We

used several different remedies, including the olive oil treatment I have

posted here in the past for others. We wound up having to treat 6 children,

her two, plus four of mine, a total of five times. Nothing worked until we

got the Kwell prescription from the doctor. By then, we had shaved my son's

head and her son's head and I was at my wit's end. I was the one doing all

the laundry and vacuuming, etc. We even tried the Nix, which is very

expensive and guaranteed to "kill lice and their eggs and protect from

re-infestation". Didn't work. Rid didn't work, 123 Clear didn't work, and

neither did olive oil. When we used the olive oil, the lice just crawled out

of their heads onto the pillows. That was gross! Throughout all of these

different tries, we used the nit combs daily.

 Remember to bag up your child's stuffed animals, wash all linens and hats,

vacuum beds and carpeting. We finally threw out all of the girls' hair bows,

and threw out everyone's brushes and combs and bought new ones. We also

threw out all the pillows. Along with the Kwell prescription, we used a

specialized lice nit comb, called the Lice Meister.

I never got them, nor did my husband, but my sister-in-law did. I was

grateful I didn't get them because I'm still nursing my baby who was 2

months old when we first got them in September. The baby didn't get them,

either.

I usually do the natural alternatives for myself and my children, we don't

use prescription drugs. I've got to say these little bugs got me to get a

prescription. Good luck.





--Kay



  --  kay   at   http://www.herbcare.com

              or

  --  slade   at   http://www.pensys.com/pages/slade

Arkansas Deb wrote in message <783nhh$1vr$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

>We went through this last fall. Don't waste your money on over the counter

>pyrethrin remedies...they don't work on the resistant strains of lice that

>are prevalent now. My daughter brought the headlice home from school and we

>finally had to use the prescription strength Quell to get rid of them.

Also,

>I had to pick every nit off of every hair...you can dip a comb in vinegar

>and it will loosen the nit so you can scrape it off with your fingernail.

Or

>you can anoint their head with olive oil and pick the nits off. This

picking

>procedure went on for about a week...very long, thick and curly hair.

>

>Our pharmacist recommended 10 drops of pure tea tree oil to a teaspoon of

>our regular shampoo for my husband...who is allergic to pyrethrins. He

>shampooed and left on for ten minutes (do not get in eyes). This worked

>beautifully for him and I did not even have to nit-pick his hair. I wish I

>had done this for our daughter...but hindsight is always keener!

>

>

>Gloria Stinson wrote in message

><5613-36A002BC-191@newsd-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

>Some folks have had success with tea tree oil.  There is also a shampoo

>with tea tree.  Depends on the age of the child - tea tree is really

>good for a lot of things - but has a strong odor.  Most health food

>stores carry tea tree oil.  good luck - Jean

>

>Carpe Diem!

>

>

>

>







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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:13:54 GMT

--------

"WL Sakowski" <WL.Sakowski@gratisnet.com> wrote:



>How long they live without a host, I can't say, but it is

>undoubtedly long *enough*, 

  It depends on the temperature and the humidity.  A couple days,

indoors in almost any climate, up to a month in favourable

conditions (cool and damp), but at temps over 110F they die

quickly.  The standard AZ method for de-lousing non-washable

items is to put them in black plastic garbage bags and put the

bag in the sun, or inside the trunk of a car in the sun.  Running

pillows through a LONG HOT dryer cycle works.



  You can sanitize mattresses with a steam iron, although

stripping the bedding and vacuuming (then throwing away the bag!)

and setting the mattress in the sun will do it.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: ETxFreespirit@webtv.net (Jean)

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 07:06:46 -0600 (CST)

--------

Hi-

Tea tree (Melaleuca alternifolia) grows in Austraiia and Asia - a tall

evergreen with white, spongy bark. The OIL from the leaves is used.

Good for acne, athlete's foot, Australian Aboriginals used the leaves to

treat cuts and skin infections - by crushing leaves and applying to

affected area.  Captain James Cook and his crew named the tree "tea

tree" using its leaves as a substitute for tea. During WWII Australian

soldier were given tea tree oil as a disinfectant.  I had clients who

used tea tree oil and tea tree oil shampoo for head lice and they

reported it worked.  Can be found in health food stores.  Info from

book 'The Natural Pharmacy'.  I am not selling a product - just passing

along some information for evaluation.

---Jean





"A wise man makes his own decisions;

an ignorant man follows  public opinion."

      Chinese Proverb 

 















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Subject: Re: Help, My child has Lice

From: "Julia" <jbert@teleportnospam.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:29:09 -0800

--------

My mother also told me that kerosene was used VERY effectively in South

America, where school teachers would treat students for head lice.   You

just have to be very careful.  Fold a towel several times, and have the

child hold the towel tightly over his/her eyes, and tell the child to close

his/her eyes very, very tightly.  Over a sink, carefully pour kerosene over

the head, making sure that kerosene is all over the scalp and all the hair

is wet with the kerosene.  Keep reminding the child to keep his/her eyes

closed, and also be very careful that no kerosene gets to the eyes in the

first place.  As soon as the hair and head have been thoroughly wetted by

the kerosene, immediately take the child into a shower and wash the hair

with shampoo 3-4 times.  All the lice will be dead, and no further work is

needed.  No need to wash sheets, no need to repeat the procedure, etc.



Obvious safety precautions need to be taken - don't do this near any flame

source (no smoking, etc.), take every precaution to make sure that no

kerosene gets in eyes, and DO NOT leave the kerosene on the scalp for more

time than it takes to get the kerosene on, get to the shower, and wash it

out.







KAL103 wrote in message <19990117194755.15046.00002377@ng-fq1.aol.com>...

>My mother used to tell me that at the turn of the century she used kerosene

and

>she never found anything better. Gets rid of them completely. Also, use a

fine

>tooth comb to get rid of the nits.

>Good luck.









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Subject: Re: mixing herbs

From: sax50man@aol.com (Sax50man)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 06:47:12 GMT

--------

how do you know which herbs to combine then.  Say you want to work a slight

condition of high blood pressure and cholesterol. reading this forum suggestion

of garlic, capsicum, and hawthorn seems to be t combination.  What if you want

to take something to promote healthy prostate like saw pametto. how does this

effect the orther combination?  And say you need a mild laxative (ie., cascara

sagrada).  Will the laxative flush out the others.  confused!!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: mixing herbs

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:22:30 -0500

--------

Yes, it can be confusing! A herb or herbal combination used for one of

the body systems will "generally" not interfere with herbs used for

another system. The Heart combination will not interfere with saw

palmetto used for the male reproductive system, or colon cleansing

herbs. By the way, cascara is NOT a laxative, but activates the pushing

action of the colon which pushes the waste through. If you are working

on several body systems at once it's better to use a general herbal

tonic containing numerous herbs in scientifically balanced proportions.

There is one that I recommend to my clients, but to name it here would

be a "commercial" posting. If you're interested contact me directly at

the address below. 

 

     Don Levell

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Subject: Re: mixing herbs

From: Andreas Kraska <andreas.kraska@hbs.regiocom.net>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:08:31 +0100

--------

Don Levell wrote:



> herbs. By the way, cascara is NOT a laxative, but activates the pushing

> action of the colon which pushes the waste through.



False. Cascara IS a laxative. You explained it. What does a laxative

other 

than push the waste through? In herbal literature, "blood purifier"

refers mainly to laxative herbs. Most herbs regarded as blood purifiers

act purgative (aloe, cascara, ...), but only some like nettle do not so.



AK

-- 

* Dr. Andreas Kraska,

* Clinical pharmacist

* Noeschenroeder Str.77, D-38855 Wernigerode, Germany

* email :   andreas.kraska@hbs.regiocom.net

* Micha 4,3 : " Dann schmieden sie aus ihren Schwertern

* Pflugscharen und aus den Spitzen ihrer Speere Winzermesser"





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Subject: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: "Dopester" <dopester@ozemail.com.au>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:21:25 +1030

--------

Hello

my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type of

stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which aid

in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.



Thanks very much











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To: Dopester <dopester@ozemail.com.au>

Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: "Lori J. Varela" <tav0303@halcyon.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:02:22 -0800

--------

Hi,



It is wonderful that you are concerned for your mother.  I agree with the

others.  She should get an evaluation of what type of arthritis she has.  Then

she can make an intelligent decision on the types of meds she wants to take as

well as using herbal routines.  I have RA and take prescribed meds, but

supplement with herbal teas when my stomach aches or when I need help relaxing.

There are other herb and supplements I should not take.  If your mother takes

other meds for things such as blood pressure she should be concerned with some

of the herbal remedies.



This is a great place to ask questions.  Invite your mother to sign on.  When

she has a diagnosis, come back, someone (if not all) will have an opinion of

what works for them and what did not work.



Good luck and welcome,



RoboMom

aka Lori V

Oly,WA



Dopester wrote:



> Hello

> my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type of

> stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which aid

> in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>

> Thanks very much











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Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: sds22@rocketmail.com (Ken Akers)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 15:31:16 GMT

--------

On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:21:25 +1030, "Dopester"

<dopester@ozemail.com.au> wrote:



>Hello

>my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type of

>stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which aid

>in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>

>Thanks very much

>

>

>





Can't help you with the herbs at all, but just wanted to mention that

there is NO cure for Arthritis. If there were, no one would be here!



Ken   ~@^@~

Nottingham, PA





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To: Dopester <dopester@ozemail.com.au>

Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: charlotte le fleur <maybull@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 3 Jan 1999 19:03:13 GMT

--------

There are over 100 diseases that fall under the general heading of "arthritis".

A rheumatologist (RD) is best equipped to diagnose and treat these diseases.

The treatment is differant for each disease.  Your mother needs to see a

Rheumatologist.

Char Le Fleur

Iowa,

USA



Dopester wrote:



> Hello

> my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type of

> stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which aid

> in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>

> Thanks very much

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Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: "Lyndon & Natalee " <lcox@pcug.org.au>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:37:57 +1100

--------

There's been a bit of investigation into the herb "pennywort" here in

Australia , for the treatment of arthritis, and some people who've tried it

say its brought them relief.

  But Char is right - get to a rheumatologist, DON'T  delay!  Get your mum a

proper diagnosis, and start treating it to curb it while you can!!

Natalee... (who's mum has ra and oa).



charlotte le fleur wrote in message <368FDB55.408F9E85@worldnet.att.net>...

>There are over 100 diseases that fall under the general heading of

"arthritis".

>A rheumatologist (RD) is best equipped to diagnose and treat these

diseases.

>The treatment is differant for each disease.  Your mother needs to see a

>Rheumatologist.

>Char Le Fleur

>Iowa,

>USA

>

>Dopester wrote:

>

>> Hello

>> my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type

of

>> stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which

aid

>> in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>>

>> Thanks very much

>









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Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: "Marge Sulla" <msulla@concentric.net>

Date: 03 Jan 1999 14:18:15 PST

--------

There are many herbs that supposedly reduce inflamation. You can probably

get more information from a health food store that sells vitamins, minerals,

herbs. I was using ginger but didn't notice much difference. Some people

swear by Yucca. Others are really into Feverfew. Cumin and Tumeric are

others. Whatever, your Mother's rheumatologist should be aware of what she

tries so it doesn't interfere with other meds she might be taking -- not

just for arthritis, but if she's taking meds for high blood pressure or a

blood thinner, for example. My RD has never been concerned with whatever I

wanted to try as long as I consulted with him about it.

Marge





Dopester wrote in message <76n45b$ki3$1@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>...

>Hello

>my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type

of

>stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which

aid

>in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>

>Thanks very much

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: "news.demon.nl" <POLM2000@POLM2000.DEMON.NL>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:26:47 +0100

--------

wild lettuce is a painkiller???

Dopester wrote in message <76n45b$ki3$1@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>...

>Hello

>my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type

of

>stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which

aid

>in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.

>

>Thanks very much

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Herbal Relief for Arthritis???

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:34:21 GMT

--------

>my mother is has arthritis problem. she loves growing herbs and that type of

>stuff, so she asked me to inquire as to wether there are any herbs which aid

>in pain relief and / or curing arthritis.



Nothing will "cure" your mom of her arthritis but her own body's immune

response.  There are; however, things that she can do/take to keep her

arthritis at bay.  I started drinking Aloe Vera about 17 years ago for my

juvenile arthritis that had me using canes.  Garlic is also excellent.



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 3 Jan 1999 07:44:39 GMT

--------

I have  seen Horse Chestnut Seed Extract touted to aid leg vein health.

However I can find no reference to this in any of the books I have.

Can anyone here supply any info on this?



Thanks,

Bj







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Subject: Re: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:53:53 +1030

--------

Horsechestnut is a cardiovascular tonic, especially a venous tonic (vein

tonic), as therefore it is good for varicose veins.  It can also be of

benefit in cases of piles, and easy bruising.

Regards,

Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com



Bob and Sue Jerin wrote:

> 

> I have  seen Horse Chestnut Seed Extract touted to aid leg vein health.

> However I can find no reference to this in any of the books I have.

> Can anyone here supply any info on this?

> 

> Thanks,

> Bj





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To: banjelacic@worldnet.att.net

Subject: Re: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: Robert Frick <rfrick@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:54:57 -0500

--------

Bob and Sue Jerin wrote:

> 

> I have  seen Horse Chestnut Seed Extract touted to aid leg vein

> health.

> However I can find no reference to this in any of the books I have.

> Can anyone here supply any info on this?

> 

> Thanks,

> Bj



I'm selling a really long report on this for $3 at

http://www.medfaq.com.  But the bottom line seems to be as Michelle

said.  There's no indication to take it just for health if your legs are

healthy.  But if you are having a problem with venous insufficiency

(e.g., swollen legs, heavy legs, varicose veins), it would probably be

useful.  No magic cure, but useful.  If you are to the point of using

compression stockings, the horse chestnut seed extract should be a good

complement.  It is sold around here (NY) under the name Venastat.



Bob Frick





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Subject: Re: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: "Miss Mim" <missmim@chickasaw.com>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:51:06 GMT

--------

Horse-Chestnut  Castanea dentata,  (Fagacaae family)

Medicinal Parts: The leaves and inner bark.

Bodily Influence: Tonic, Mild sedative, Astringent.

Culpeper made use of the inner skin that contains the nut, quoting "Is of

so binding a quality that a scruple of it being taken by a man or ten

grains by a child, soon stops any flux whatsoever." 

I'm not sure why I through that in, I guess just to show it has a history.

It takes a life time just to figure out what Culpeper has left us. I do

enjoy trying to translate English into English. As for your question,

clinically the extract is used for bleeding haemorrhoids, VARICOSE VEINS,

arteriosclerosis. 

In folk medicine it is used for Arthritis, Rheumatism,  Female bleeding,

Heamorrhoids and chronic inflammation of the intestines.



Please pardon me if I seem a bit sharp & to the point. I have had a rough

day & a stiff drink & I do Love this place that lets me test how much I

have retained over the years.

Thanks for the question!

Yours, 

Mim 

Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article

<368F1FA7.6E2F4C4D@worldnet.att.net>...

> I have  seen Horse Chestnut Seed Extract touted to aid leg vein health.

> However I can find no reference to this in any of the books I have.

> Can anyone here supply any info on this?

> 

> Thanks,

> Bj

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 07:34:43 GMT

--------

On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:51:06 GMT, "Miss Mim" <missmim@chickasaw.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Horse-Chestnut  Castanea dentata,  (Fagacaae family)

>Medicinal Parts: The leaves and inner bark.

>Bodily Influence: Tonic, Mild sedative, Astringent.



That big an error on the first line? Then how can you trust the rest? 

Culpeper is not really to be taken at face value.



Chestnut, the edible nut, is Castanea sp.



HORSE chestnut, the inedible nut, is Aesculus sp.

To use horse chestnut you a) pick the green fruit (for tincture) and b) pick the

leaves (for salve). You don't go around peeling the bark of these trees ... 



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Horse Chesnut Seed Extract

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:22:20 -0500

--------

Horse Chestnut is NOT a Castanea; it is not even related to the common

chestnuts, nor is it in the family Fagaceae!  It is Aesculus hippocastanum,

of the family Sapindaceae.



I wish people giving advice over this newsgroup would take at least a little

trouble to get their facts straight.  Sorry I don't know a nicer way to say

it.



-Rich



Miss Mim wrote in message <01be3865$cd85c160$1be9cccf@default>...

>Horse-Chestnut  Castanea dentata,  (Fagacaae family)

>Medicinal Parts: The leaves and inner bark.

>Bodily Influence: Tonic, Mild sedative, Astringent.

>Culpeper made use of the inner skin that contains the nut, quoting "Is of

>so binding a quality that a scruple of it being taken by a man or ten

>grains by a child, soon stops any flux whatsoever."

>I'm not sure why I through that in, I guess just to show it has a history.

>It takes a life time just to figure out what Culpeper has left us. I do

>enjoy trying to translate English into English. As for your question,

>clinically the extract is used for bleeding haemorrhoids, VARICOSE VEINS,

>arteriosclerosis.

>In folk medicine it is used for Arthritis, Rheumatism,  Female bleeding,

>Heamorrhoids and chronic inflammation of the intestines.

>

>Please pardon me if I seem a bit sharp & to the point. I have had a rough

>day & a stiff drink & I do Love this place that lets me test how much I

>have retained over the years.

>Thanks for the question!

>Yours,

>Mim

>Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article

><368F1FA7.6E2F4C4D@worldnet.att.net>...

>> I have  seen Horse Chestnut Seed Extract touted to aid leg vein health.

>> However I can find no reference to this in any of the books I have.

>> Can anyone here supply any info on this?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Bj

>>

>>









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Subject: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: "George William" <george.william@virgin.net>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:21:52 -0000

--------

Just been reading in this newsgroup about the use of Garlic capsules, I

remember hearing on the radio many years ago that it was much better to use

the real thing.









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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Graham Sorenson <Graham@fragrant.demon.co.ukREMOVEME>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:42:28 +0000

--------

In article <76nh91$dmk$1@nclient1-gui.server.virgin.net>, George

William <george.william@virgin.net> writes

>Just been reading in this newsgroup about the use of Garlic capsules, I

>remember hearing on the radio many years ago that it was much better to use

>the real thing.



I agree that it is better to use the "Real" thing. but there is a social stigma

in breathing garlic fumes out :-) Eating a raw clove each day is very good

for you but if you have any need for social interaction you might prefer to

use the capsules. (Unless of course all around you are also haveing the

cloves) 





>

>



-- 

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Hundreds of links to alternative health sites http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/

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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:58:46 +1030

--------

If you want the antibiotic activity of garlic, it is better to eat the

'real' stuff, but studies have shown that the cholesterol and Blood

pressure reducing ability of garlic is better after it has been dried. 

I dont honestly know what to believe, but I do know that most of the

active constituents are contained in the 'smell' of the garlic, so I

avoid prescribing the odorless.  If you need the garlic, you can eat it

untill the cows come home without smelling, but if you want to take it,

peppermint tea and other aromatic teas can help to decrease the smell. 

To reduce the heartburn often associated with the garlic, try taking it

with a dry piece of bread and a cup of cold milk.

Regards,

Michelle



aislingr@hotmail.com



George William wrote:

> 

> Just been reading in this newsgroup about the use of Garlic capsules, I

> remember hearing on the radio many years ago that it was much better to use

> the real thing.





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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 3 Jan 1999 14:55:50 GMT

--------

I use the capsules daily and believe that they have helped.  Also most meals

include garlic around here.



An interesting note of folklore:  The Croatians have a custom of dipping a clove

of garlic in honey on New Years, it is said that this is done to ensure health

and prosperity.

Bj

Michelle wrote:



> If you want the antibiotic activity of garlic, it is better to eat the

> 'real' stuff, but studies have shown that the cholesterol and Blood

> pressure reducing ability of garlic is better after it has been dried.

> I dont honestly know what to believe, but I do know that most of the

> active constituents are contained in the 'smell' of the garlic, so I

> avoid prescribing the odorless.  If you need the garlic, you can eat it

> untill the cows come home without smelling, but if you want to take it,

> peppermint tea and other aromatic teas can help to decrease the smell.

> To reduce the heartburn often associated with the garlic, try taking it

> with a dry piece of bread and a cup of cold milk.

> Regards,

> Michelle

>

> aislingr@hotmail.com

>

> George William wrote:

> >

> > Just been reading in this newsgroup about the use of Garlic capsules, I

> > remember hearing on the radio many years ago that it was much better to use

> > the real thing.











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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:13:26 GMT

--------

I mince a few cloves of fresh galic and then crush that with a pestil, add 

some parsley and a bit of olive oil to make a paste and spread it on toast.  

Along with a glass of grape juice, that's breakfast.  I've also done the same 

with roasted garlic and made enough for a few days and kept it in the fridge.  

<smile> 'Course, I consider that a treat.  Diana





In article <368F627E.68E1231E@hotmail.com>, Michelle <aislingr@hotmail.com> 

wrote:

>If you want the antibiotic activity of garlic, it is better to eat the

>'real' stuff, but studies have shown that the cholesterol and Blood

>pressure reducing ability of garlic is better after it has been dried. 

>I dont honestly know what to believe, but I do know that most of the

>active constituents are contained in the 'smell' of the garlic, so I

>avoid prescribing the odorless.  If you need the garlic, you can eat it

>untill the cows come home without smelling, but if you want to take it,

>peppermint tea and other aromatic teas can help to decrease the smell. 

>To reduce the heartburn often associated with the garlic, try taking it

>with a dry piece of bread and a cup of cold milk.

>Regards,

>Michelle

>

>aislingr@hotmail.com

>





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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:03:39 -0500

--------

George, yes using real garlic is better, but the odorless capsules on

the market today are generally of excellent quality, and allow you to

get face-to-face with others. I usually recommend "Kyolic" brand as the

best, but most are fine. 

 

     Don Levell

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: kevin french <kp_french@conknet.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:10:35 -0500

--------

Does it work in a tincture?



kevin







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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: "Decker" <Decker@hotmail.com>

Date: 3 Jan 1999 17:06:22 GMT

--------

Does cooking destroy the benefits of garlic?   



Decker

kevin french <kp_french@conknet.com> wrote in article

<368F8860.57A62EA4@conknet.com>...

> Does it work in a tincture?

> 

> kevin

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: juniper@home.comnospam

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 05:24:06 GMT

--------

Garlic is great! just take the a clove, with the side of your knife

smash it

hard and the papery skins will fall/peel/loosen right off. The finer

you chop

it (garlic) the hotter,  "bite" it will have.  I think most north

Americans

worry far more than necessary about garlic "breath" or "odor". Sure one

can purchase garlic tabs but why not add some garlic to your soup,

or stir fry it with onions and fresh ginger or roast it whole and

squeeze

on to some bread or crackers. YUM!







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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: Vesa Kotilainen <nospamhere@cc.jyu.fi>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:56:02 +0200

--------

Great idea!



But to optimize the effect of garlic, it's better not to cook or heat it

in any way. The heat will spoil some of the most effective ingredients

of garlic...



--



juniper@home.comnospam wrote:

> 

> Garlic is great! just take the a clove, with the side of your knife

> smash it

> hard and the papery skins will fall/peel/loosen right off. The finer

> you chop

> it (garlic) the hotter,  "bite" it will have.  I think most north

> Americans

> worry far more than necessary about garlic "breath" or "odor". Sure one

> can purchase garlic tabs but why not add some garlic to your soup,

> or stir fry it with onions and fresh ginger or roast it whole and

> squeeze

> on to some bread or crackers. YUM!







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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:32:25 GMT

--------

The real thing of anything (healthy) is, of course, always better.  But, short

of that many people don't want to have garlic breath!  In such an event, there

are a number of odor-free garlic supplements that are certainly better than

nothing.



David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

From: mkemp73@hotmail.com (Mike Kemp)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:36:16 -0800

--------

Article:  7 of 11

From:  Decker <Decker@hotmail.com>

Subject:      Re: Garlic capsules or the real thing ?

Date:  3 Jan 1999 17:06:22 GMT



Does cooking destroy the benefits of garlic?



FWIW, Dr. David Williams, who has always recommended raw, says in his

January 1999 newsletter that "a soon-to-be-published study from Pennsylvania

State University suggests that you can get similar benefits from cooked

garlic--*if* you first let it sit out a while aftter peeling it."



He goes on to explain the study and the apparent results.







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Subject: Kava may be bad for liver

From: afn37133@afn.org (Jeff A. Atkinson)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:28:16 -0800

--------

I've posted here in the past asking for evidence

to support the claim that Kava is bad for the liver.

I believed at the time that there was no real

evidence--until now.  I just did a search of MEDLINE

(the database of abstracts from medical journals)

and I got the following abstract (I will leave it up

to you to draw your own conclusions):



------------------

Dtsch Med Wochenschr 1998 Nov 20;123(47):1410-4

[No title available].



[Article originally in German]



Strahl S, Ehret V, Dahm HH, Maier KP   Medizinische

Klinik, Fachbereich Gastroenterologie, Stadtische

Kliniken Esslingen am Neckar.



HISTORY AND CLINICAL FINDINGS: Two unrelated women,

aged 39 and 42 years, had been admitted (at

different times) to hospital because of "recurrence

of an aetiologically uncertain acute hepatitis".

Both patients had a history of acute hepatitis with

GPT concentration of 796 and 755 U/l, respectively.

Each of them had experienced recurrences of

hepatitis, each of them preceded by taking herbal

remedies as alternative medication, containing kava

or common (or lesser) celandine, respectively. In

each patient physical examination had been

unremarkable.



INVESTIGATIONS: Maximal values of GPT in the two

patients were 422 and 350 U/l, respectively. Viral,

autoimmune and metabolic causes of the hepatitis

were excluded. In each of them liver biopsy revealed

the picture of acute necrotizing hepatitis.



DIAGNOSIS, TREATMENT AND COURSE: As it was supected

that the hepatitis was medication-induced, the

intake of the mentioned herbal preparations was

stopped. The liver function tests quickly became

normal.



CONCLUSION: In view of the rapid response to their

withdrawal, a causal connection between intake of

the herbal preparations and the recurrences of acute

hepatitis is the most likely explanation in both

cases.

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Subject: Re: Kava may be bad for liver

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:48:20 -0800

--------

Sounds like they may have some strange allery/sensitivity to kava?  If you

look hard enought you'll finds someone who has a bad response to some herb.

But then you can kill yourself or at least really mess up your electrolytes

if you drink enough  (very large amount needed) water too.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Kava may be bad for liver

From: "Jennifer Oas" <jocs@bellsouth.net>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:06:34 GMT

--------

Kava and lesser celandine are not the same herb, not even in the same

family, and the abstract does not yield enough info to tell whether these

women were taking a blend or the two or even additional herbs.  Celandine

does have toxicity reports.  Kava is a suspected kidney irritant, because it

is a urinary tract irritant.  High doses or prolonged doses are

contraindicated in endogenous depression and while taking anti-anxiety

drugs.  High potentcy kava over a period of time can lead to kava

dermatitis, a yellowing scaling of the skin that resolves itself when kava

use is discontinued.

It may be the studies subjects were using god knows what from god knows

where.  Pre-existing liver disease is also not ruled out by the abstract.

ma pickle wrote in message ...

>Sounds like they may have some strange allery/sensitivity to kava?  If you

>look hard enought you'll finds someone who has a bad response to some herb.

>But then you can kill yourself or at least really mess up your electrolytes

>if you drink enough  (very large amount needed) water too.

>

>Ingrid

>

>









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Subject: Re: Skullcap?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 20:32:32 GMT

--------

>     Hi

>    I was thinking of taking Skullcap for some sleeplessness.

>I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this herb because I've been

>having trouble finding information.  

>     Specifically, I was interested in side effects, general dosage per lb.,

>how long a person can take it etc.

>     I did see something about how some Skullcap mixtures are impure and that

>these can cause some adverse side effects.  If so can anyone recommend a good

>brand to purchase.  Thanks very much, C



I make my own so I've afraid I can't help you with brand names but I've used

skullcap tincture, about 2-5 drops in water will put me out for the night. Have

found it helpful on plane trips.



Catnip tincture (flowering tops) works great for me also.



Belinda







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Subject: Re: Skullcap?

From: nexus@king.cts.com (Alan Pollock)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 03:23:41 GMT

--------

LEvans1044 (levans1044@aol.com) wrote:

:>     Hi

:>    I was thinking of taking Skullcap for some sleeplessness.

:>I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this herb because I've been

:>having trouble finding information.  

:>     Specifically, I was interested in side effects, general dosage per lb.,

:>how long a person can take it etc.

:>     I did see something about how some Skullcap mixtures are impure and that

:>these can cause some adverse side effects.  If so can anyone recommend a good

:>brand to purchase.  Thanks very much, C

:

:I make my own so I've afraid I can't help you with brand names but I've used

:skullcap tincture, about 2-5 drops in water will put me out for the night. Have

:found it helpful on plane trips.

:

:Catnip tincture (flowering tops) works great for me also.

:

:Belinda

:



If you stick with the major brands you should be okay. I've been using

Nature's Way for almost a year with no negative effects. Solaray is also a

good brand. Nex





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Subject: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: Gareth Crispell <gareth@capecod.net>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 15:36:25 -0500

--------

Does anyone know of any negative effects from taking Pycnogenol ?? 

                                                          

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     they will abide with us.                          

     Their glory and fire will burn like            

     sparks among the stubble!





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Subject: Re: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: you@somehost.somedomain (DRUID@OAK)

Date: 4 Jan 99 20:14:41 GMT

--------

I took Grape seed, same as pycnogenol, for my ADD.  I took it for 

several months straight and didn't notice any side effects.  It helped 

greatly with my ablility to concentrate.  It is also and antioxidant, 

and that my have helped me in other ways that I didn't realize.







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Subject: Re: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:49:59 -0500

--------

The worst side effect of Pycnogenol is that it does a good job of

making your wallet thinner!  8~}.



Gareth Crispell wrote:



> Does anyone know of any negative effects from taking Pycnogenol ??

>

>  Gareth            http://www.capecod.net/~gareth/n1msv.htm

>

>

> .....at the dawn of the New Age of Man,

>      they will abide with us.

>      Their glory and fire will burn like

>      sparks among the stubble!











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Subject: Re: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:39:35 +0000

--------

In article <3693E897.2DAA91@erols.com>, Jeffrey Karp

<jeffkarp@erols.com> releases a small spider to scrawl across the page..

>The worst side effect of Pycnogenol is that it does a good job of

>making your wallet thinner!  8~}.

>

>Gareth Crispell wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know of any negative effects from taking Pycnogenol ??

>>

>>  Gareth            http://www.capecod.net/~gareth/n1msv.htm

>>

>>

>> .....at the dawn of the New Age of Man,

>>      they will abide with us.

>>      Their glory and fire will burn like

>>      sparks among the stubble!

>

>

>

 Only thing I can think of is that if you take any conventional

medication to thin the blood, that you consult your GP first as

pycnogenol prevents plate aggregation and may have a similar effect as

aspirin, warfarin and so on..

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Re: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:40:30 GMT

--------

"WL Sakowski" <WL.Sakowski@gratisnet.com> wrote:



>>>> ... any negative effects from taking Pycnogenol ??

> A>  Only thing I can think of is that if you take any conventional

> A> medication to thin the blood, that you consult your GP first

> A> as pycnogenol prevents plate aggregation and may have a

> A> similar effect as aspirin, warfarin and so on..

>

>News to me... tho it is never a bad idea to consult with GP, tho

>few have any knowledge (sorry, doc)  in this area... and fewer

>still, are eager to learn.  Guarantee you that, tho they may have

>a similar effect, Pycnogenol doesn't have the side-effects that

>aspirin, 



>(I'm not familiar with warfarin) has.

 Warfarin (rat poison) = Coumadin (used to prevent thrombosis)



Does not prevent platelet aggregations, but prevents the fibrin

from forming.  If you are taking Coumadin, aspirin can make the

potential of internal bleding (because of it's effect on the

platelets) more likely.





Tsu Dho Nimh



Passwords are like tooth brushes, change them often and never share them.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pycnogenol - Bad Side Effects ?

From: "picloud" <ncoffey@viser.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 07:04:45 GMT

--------





Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk> wrote in article

<+jcbADA31Ql2Iw1S@superstition.demon.co.uk>...

> In article <3693E897.2DAA91@erols.com>, Jeffrey Karp

> <jeffkarp@erols.com> releases a small spider to scrawl across the page..

> >The worst side effect of Pycnogenol is that it does a good job of

> >making your wallet thinner!  8~}.

> >

> >Gareth Crispell wrote:

> >

> >> Does anyone know of any negative effects from taking Pycnogenol ??

> >>

> >>  Gareth            http://www.capecod.net/~gareth/n1msv.htm

> >>

> >>

> >> .....at the dawn of the New Age of Man,

> >>      they will abide with us.

> >>      Their glory and fire will burn like

> >>      sparks among the stubble!

> >

> >

> >

>  Only thing I can think of is that if you take any conventional

> medication to thin the blood, that you consult your GP first as

> pycnogenol prevents plate aggregation and may have a similar effect as

> aspirin, warfarin and so on..

> "as dark as night

> as strong as death

> as sweet as love"-- 

> Angelica

> 



As a cautionary statement this applies to a lot of herbs.  For example

taking St. John's Wort with ephedrine or a diet rich in monoamines could

cause much discomfort or worse.  Your GP may not be the best source of

advise though..I recommend the same respect of herbs as mushrooms..know the

herb before you take it.  If not ... someone's bound to sue,,, then

regulate...







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Subject: Asthma

From: jrholland@mindspring.com (John R. and Joanne D. Holland)

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:37:39 GMT

--------

I really am having alot of trouble with my asthma. I have been to

several doctors, trying this drug and that, but my quality of life is

getting worse. My dr's can offer no improvment only stableness. 



I realize that every case is different but has any one had improvments

with herbs or combinations of herbs.



The herbs that stimulate do not seem to help, but the herbs that relax

me are better.



Thanks in advance

Joanne





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Subject: Re: Asthma

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:22:43 GMT

--------

In our family, we've had some success with a tea of parsley, thyme and 

oregano.  It doesn't taste real good, though.  Even adding peppermint and 

lemon didn't help a whole lot with the taste.  Diana





In article <368fe18a.18429074@news.mindspring.com>, jrholland@mindspring.com 

wrote:

>I really am having alot of trouble with my asthma. I have been to

>several doctors, trying this drug and that, but my quality of life is

>getting worse. My dr's can offer no improvment only stableness. 

>

>I realize that every case is different but has any one had improvments

>with herbs or combinations of herbs.

>

>The herbs that stimulate do not seem to help, but the herbs that relax

>me are better.

>

>Thanks in advance

>Joanne





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Asthma

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:07:27 +0000

--------

In article <368fe18a.18429074@news.mindspring.com>, John R. and Joanne

D. Holland <jrholland@mindspring.com> releases a small spider to scrawl

across the page..

>I really am having alot of trouble with my asthma. I have been to

>several doctors, trying this drug and that, but my quality of life is

>getting worse. My dr's can offer no improvment only stableness. 

>

>I realize that every case is different but has any one had improvments

>with herbs or combinations of herbs.

>

>The herbs that stimulate do not seem to help, but the herbs that relax

>me are better.

>

>Thanks in advance

>Joanne

 In the UK one of the tabloid papers carried an article about someone

who had found some relief with liquorice root liquid. It is renowned for

it's anti-spasmodic and expectorant properties. 

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Re: Asthma

From: George Lagergren <gl@edgebbs.com.REMOVE.ME.TO.REPLY>

Date: 15 Jan 99 00:41:42 EDT

--------

Patti  wrote:

I just purchased ephedra and ma huang mixure in order to lose some weight.

Can I take this along with zoloft?



Bella@jelliclecat.com   replied:

Be> Ummm.....you've got a pretty lethal combination there.  Ma Huang is

Be> also known as "chinese cocaine" and contains ephedra in it's natural

Be> form.  I use it in very small doses to help out with my asthma when my

Be> chest is really tight....but wouldn't recommend it mixed together like

Be> that.



    Just a thought.  What about taking chlorella for asthma?



.. End  of  message

___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Saw Palmetto and DHT Levels for Hair loss

From: "David" <david@binarybox.freeserve.co.uk>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:19:02 -0000

--------

Hello...



I have just started taking saw palmetto extract at 500mg /day as a possible

delay (cure ?) for hair thinning. I believe that this herb will lower the

DHT levels in the body and also inhibit the uptake of DHT at receptor sites

which is now thought to cause hair loss in 90% of cases (read from the

various sources on the net).



Has anyone had any experience with this herb for hair loss. I would like to

try the

prescription drug (propecia) but living in the UK I am not sure if its

easily available and

my doctor is very strict on administering drugs especially if it is for

'cosmetic' reasons.

Hence I started using this herb as it is supposed to have the same effects

as propecia.

I would prefer the herb if it works as just well.



I have also started taking L-Cystine 500mg as this is supposed to aid hair

growth and stop loss

in some cases.



Finally what is the best way to take these 2 herbs ? With a meal or at night

on an empty stomach ?



Thanks David













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Subject: Re: Hot Flashes

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 22:48:04 GMT

--------

>TOFU, TOFU and TOFU!

>

>Licorice extract is good too.

>Thanks to tofu, there is no word for hot flashes in

>Japanese..



Very interesting. I had heard that the Japanese woman points to an anatomically

correct doll in order to explain what part of her hurts. If this explaination

is true, and I believe it might be, then the Japanese might not have words for

other ailments. 



Belinda



>Rafal

>

>Carole Grant wrote:

>

>> Can someone help me with hot flashes, one a hour!









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hot Flashes

From: "Infomaui" <infomaui@mauigateway.com>

Date: 6 Jan 1999 06:03:11 GMT

--------

HI:

Be very careful with licorice is retains liquids and can

cause edemas. Sage tea Passiflora tea and Lemongrass

tea are suppose to help. I haven't read any side effects 

on these.

Good Luck, Chris

http://www.mauigateway.com/~infomaui/home.html



LEvans1044 <levans1044@aol.com> wrote in article

<19990103174804.05620.00000457@ng-ch1.aol.com>...

> >TOFU, TOFU and TOFU!

> >

> >Licorice extract is good too.

> >Thanks to tofu, there is no word for hot flashes in

> >Japanese..

> > >Rafal

> >

> >Carole Grant wrote:

> >

> >> Can someone help me with hot flashes, one a hour!

> 

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: Hot Flashes

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:17:33 -0500

--------

Hi, about hot flashes..... this is what helped me.



Get Susun Weed's book on Menopause first of all, and get some Motherwort

extract.   It was the only thing helped me with my hot flashes, they were

just as bad as yours.   I think that our generation is having a harder time

with menopause because many of us were on birth control pills for extended

periods of time, and also because those early birth control pills were all

made with high doses of estrogen.   Just a hunch anyway.



I tried Rejuvex (over the counter supplement) for a while, and eventually

discovered it was making them worse!   I tried high doses of vitamin E and

it did not help much either.    The best thing I did was decide to take the

motherwort and simply tough them out till it was over.   It pretty much

worked.



Be aware that if you go on Hormone replacement, it just drags out the whole

process and if you stop taking them, even at a ripe old age, it will bring

hot flashes on again.   This is why I decided to just tough it out.



Dress in cotton and other natural fibers, and dress in layers.   That way

you can take off a sweater or jacket and just be in a T shirt underneath.

Carry a folded packet of paper towels in your handbag, tissues just shred,

and sometimes you just need to mop.



Alcohol makes them worse, so cut down or out on it.    Sleep in a cold room

if possible.    Cut down or out on meat, increase veggies.   Exercise.   If

all else fails consider taking DHEA, it was very good in helping me to get

over it all.   I eventually stopped taking that too.     It minimized the

flashes, helped me to sleep better and even helped a bit with the weight

gain problems I got from taking the HRT before I knew better and got off

that junk as soon as I realized how bad it was.



Good Luck,

Evelyn











Infomaui wrote in message <01be393a$55c65420$69b58ed0@maui>...

>HI:

>Be very careful with licorice is retains liquids and can

>cause edemas. Sage tea Passiflora tea and Lemongrass

>tea are suppose to help. I haven't read any side effects

>on these.

>Good Luck, Chris

>http://www.mauigateway.com/~infomaui/home.html

>

>LEvans1044 <levans1044@aol.com> wrote in article

><19990103174804.05620.00000457@ng-ch1.aol.com>...

>> >TOFU, TOFU and TOFU!

>> >

>> >Licorice extract is good too.

>> >Thanks to tofu, there is no word for hot flashes in

>> >Japanese..

>> > >Rafal

>> >

>> >Carole Grant wrote:

>> >

>> >> Can someone help me with hot flashes, one a hour!

>>

>>

>>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Milk Thistle, Processed or Raw?

From: mlcorson@aol.com (MLCorson)

Date: 3 Jan 1999 23:47:32 GMT

--------

I use processed, 80% sylmarin, standardized extract milk thistle to treat my

Hepatitius C (a chronic liver infection). I have recently found I can buy milk

thistle seeds for about a 100th of the cost of processed milk thistle. Is there

some way I can use these seeds with similar results? Grind them? What does

standardized extract mean anyway? Thanks for the help





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Milk Thistle, Processed or Raw?

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:45:51 GMT

--------

I had elevated liver enzymes and the doctor wished to perform a liver biopsy 

after trying taking me off other things that she thought might be causing the 

enzymes to be elevated.  I refused.  I told her that I didn't care "why" the 

enzymes were elevated, but that I knew how to get the readings back to normal. 

 I purchased the seeds and crushed them with mortar and pestle and then made a 

tincture.  It took nearly three months for the liver enzymes to return to 

normal level.  I now add crushed milk thistle seeds to a "tea" I make for 

myself and drink daily. I also use a small amount of Blessed Thistle in that 

tea.  My liver enzymes have stayed within normal range.  Diana

                    

In article <19990103184732.25353.00006451@ng30.aol.com>, mlcorson@aol.com 

(MLCorson) wrote:

>I use processed, 80% sylmarin, standardized extract milk thistle to treat my

>Hepatitius C (a chronic liver infection). I have recently found I can buy milk

>thistle seeds for about a 100th of the cost of processed milk thistle. Is there

>some way I can use these seeds with similar results? Grind them? What does

>standardized extract mean anyway? Thanks for the help





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Essiac Tea

From: medmaker@aol.com (Medmaker)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 02:04:09 GMT

--------

Has anyone had any experience with the use of essiac tea? What is the recipe

for it?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Essiac Tea

From: Greg <jquinn@shell7.ba.best.com>

Date: 07 Jan 1999 06:15:30 GMT

--------

Medmaker <medmaker@aol.com> wrote:

> Has anyone had any experience with the use of essiac tea? What is the recipe

> for it?



There's a lot of info, positive and negative views, availabe at:

http://www.essiac-info.org/



Good luck





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Excessive reaction to the cold

From: "Miss Mim" <missmim@chickasaw.com>

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:12:46 GMT

--------

On those days when you just can't get warm ... 

To a quart of boiling water add 2 heaping TBSP Ginger. Remove from fire and

steep for about 15 min. Add this to a bath and enjoy the warmth. 

Ginger brings the blood to the surface and aids the circulation and the

effects last a good amount of time. Also, putting Cayenne Pepper in your

shoes & bath will help.

Mim



Jim <mpd@mindspring.com> wrote in article

<76atjn$mdf$1@camel21.mindspring.com>...

> A friend of mine has times when cold just really seems to go

> completely through her (just an expression; you probably know what I

> mean) and has real trouble warming up. Until she goes in for her

> annual exam in February, is there anything she can take that would

> improve her circulation to the hands and feet? Seems to me that I read

> somewhere that epo (evening primrose oil) can be good for this

> problem. Have you had this problem and found an easy cure for the

> symptoms? Thanks!

> 

> 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Please help with a Chaparral source

From: "Robert L" <notlytle@ijntb.net>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:36:00 -0600

--------

I need to find chaparral leaf in raw form.  Any help would be appreciated.

Please email me so I don't miss your reply.

Robert

lytle@ijntb.net









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: re: dry cracked skin

From: "kami" <kami@home.net>

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:39:24 -0800

--------

basically I have suffered from dry skin all my life,  I have found that

staying away from citric acids such as tomatoes, oranges, lemons etc and

living in an arid/sea environment, going for swims in the clean sea helps

over a period to keep the dry skin to a minimum. I am a strong believer in

sorbolin  and if non allergic lavender oil or oil of primrose mixed and used

as a moisturiser helps also to alleviate the itchy feeling, and with regular

use, of up to three or more times daily, your skin does seem to feel and

heal better.



thats better than the porridge baths I had as a kid.



Kami











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Echinacea question

From: JoeDi <joedi@netpci.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:26:31 -0800

--------

Robin, also eat more foods that are alkaline. The cold virus' can't live in

body high in alkaline. They thrive on body that is high on acidity.



Don Levell wrote:



> Robin:

> In my opinion echinacea is really not something that should be used on a

> daily basis. Rather if you feel symptoms of a cold coming on, then

> immediately take 1200 -1500 mg together, followed by 600-800 mg for 2 or

> three more days. that should kill the cold! You CAN build up a

> tolerance. Consider one of the super-antioxidants for daily use, such as

> grape seed extract.

>

>      Donald Levell

>      Master Herbalist







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Subject: St. Johns Wort Ginseng Ma Huang questions.

From: "Seeker" <chance_seeker.nospam@yahoo.com>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:48:44 -0500

--------

Hello all,



I am kind of new to taking herbs for help.



I want to lose weight, but I don't want to lose any energy.

I was thinking of substituting my soft drinks with Ginseng tea.

Taking St. Johns Wort for over all better health, and Ma Huang to help me

lose weight.



Am I on the right track?



All of the literature that I have read on each of these herbs indicate that

they will help me in my goal of good health, high energy, and lower weight.





Thanks.













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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. Johns Wort Ginseng Ma Huang questions.

From: jensummers@aol.com (JenSummers)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 20:27:01 GMT

--------

>I want to lose weight, but I don't want to lose any energy.<<



The following is a website (not my own) where I've found a lot of helpful hints

on using ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin (e/c/a stacker) to help you burn fat

and best of all it gives you energy.  



http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/index.html



You seem to be on a terrific start by getting on a walking program and changing

your diet.  Before using the E/C/A stacker, you should see a doctor since

ephedrine elevatesthe heart rate. 



 The dosage recommended in the website is 25mg of ephedrine.  You probably

won't find this in a health food store because they have ephedrine in very high

dosages, 100mg and up.  This is insane because it's dangerous levels.  You can

find ephedrine in 25mg at gas stations with quick marts.  Or even online. Be

sure to use the 5 days on and 2 days off E/C/A and also...remember to check

with your doctor first and foremost.



Good luck!





Jennifer Summers







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St. Johns Wort Ginseng Ma Huang questions.

From: bob@bob.com (Bob)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 13:42:55 GMT

--------

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:03:22 -0500, "Seeker" <chance_seeker.nospam@yahoo.com>

wrote:



> I am replacing the soft drinks with

>Ginseng tea however. (I need some flavor).

>

>Will these herbs assist me in my efforts?

>



According to some info I came across yesterday, there are strong warnings

against combining Ma-Huang (Chinese Ephedra) with Ginseng.

From "Hollywood Clinic":



>5.Overdose can cause arrhythmias. 



>                              CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION!



>  When used with cardiac glycosides [ginseng is loaded with these], 

> ephedra can cause cardiac arrhythmias. Chinese medicine

> practitioners know these precautions and use herbs correctly.

>  Many  companies that are out to just make a buck do not use

>  herbs correctly. Please beware of bad formulations. Get advice 

> from a knowledgeable person.



I have been taking Ginseng for some time with no ill efects and was

considering Ma-Huang. But now I am confused.



The next website I surfed into while searching for "Ma-Huang" offered the 2

combined in one pill. It is called ThermoChrome Select. Don't these people

talk to each other?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbal schools?

From: "Marvin L. Zinn" <marvinlzinn@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 4 Jan 1999 14:47:54 GMT

--------

Michael,



In article <hrbmoore-ya02408000R3012981843560001@news.primenet.com>, 

Michael Moore wrote:

> I donno---30 years in the business and 20 years teaching...never ONCE saw

> any police at my office, store or school.

>

    Hmmm. Police people don't believe in herbs then?  <g>

    

    

                                                     marvinlzinn







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: bears repeating

From: vjb@webmail.bellsouth.net

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:23:08 GMT

--------

Hi, all: I posted the following more than 10 months ago and I'm still an

ex-tobacco addict. FWIW, I smoked upwards of a pack and a half of

'full-flavor' cigarettes a day for over 20 years. I haven't had a cigarette

in nearly 25 months, haven't wanted one in over 23 months. It's also a really

rare thing for me to smoke anything *else* these days. *peace* and good luck

to you all... --julie



Re: Herbs to help kick the tobacco habit



Author:     ViciousJB

Email:      viciousjb@aol.com

Date:       1998/02/26

Forums:     alt.folklore.herbs



I quit smoking/using tobacco products almost 15 months ago, w/o any patches,

nico-gum, etc.,hmmmm....well, I guess I can post it, since it is not

something i do on a regular basis...I smoked pot. I kept a pipe of it on hand

and every time I craved a cigarette, i lit the pipe, took a toke, let it go

out...I know, i know, when you smoke a joint, you want a cigarette right

away, just like after a meal, right? Well, for some reason it worked(maybe it

was the pipe, and the paper in the joint makes you crave the paper in the

cigarette? I don't know.). It took about 2 weeks for the physical addiction

to go away, during which time I was too stoned to get really bitchy...anyway,

it worked. I am now an ex-smoker, and I smoked cigarettes, averaged 1 1/2

packs a day, for 22 years. And no, I do not now have a "pot habit", I never

liked it that much, not even in the 70s when it was better, and cheaper. BTW,

catnip is supposed to be really good for reducing the nicotine cravings. Best

of luck to you... -julie



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herb catalogs

From: bayou2064@aol.com (Bayou2064)

Date: 4 Jan 1999 21:21:49 GMT

--------

Looking for the address or ph number for herbs only catalogs







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

To: Bayou2064 <bayou2064@aol.com>

Subject: Re: Herb catalogs

From: Artaois@concentric.net

Date: 14 Jan 1999 19:08:56 PST

--------

 Here's one for you.

In Harmony Herbs&Spices

4808 Santa Monica Avenue

San Diego, Ca. 92107



Best Wishes

John



Bayou2064 wrote:



> Looking for the address or ph number for herbs only catalogs











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herb catalogs

From: Clark <festival@sover.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:51:53 -0500

--------

Attar has a great herb catalog the number to get the catalog is 603.878.1780

They are very nice and prompt.

Demetria



VWinter wrote:



> www.herbnet.com...has many herb businesses.listed....also, Frontier in Norway,

> Iowa...phone....800-669-3275 has quite a few herbs, teas, coffees, and basic

> herb lines-well known lines for sale....hope this helps...

> Susie











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: San Fransico Herb Co.

From: pmaser@usa.net (PTM)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:24:23 GMT

--------

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:05:26 -0600, "Robert L" <notlytle@ijntb.net>

wrote:



>Their prices are great.  How is their quality?

>



I have been ordering for years and any problem was quickly

remedied.

Paul





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: San Fransico Herb Co.

From: herblady@newsguy.comX (Rastapoodle)

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:32:20 GMT

--------

On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:24:23 GMT, pmaser@usa.net (PTM) wrote:



>Their prices are great.  How is their quality?



I haven't ordered from them in several years. Their dried material was

great, good prices, but their "oils" or fragrances were inferior,

junky. Okay if you just wanted to make fun potpourri or fragrance air

sprays, nothing to put on your body.



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Subject: Re: San Fransico Herb Co.

From: clg771@aol.com (CLG771)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 03:30:15 GMT

--------

Do they have a web site?



I remember having a catalog a long long time ago, and always intended to order

from them...never got around to it though....





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Subject: Re: San Fransico Herb Co.

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 06:39:12 GMT

--------

On >Mon, Jan 4, 1999 22:30 EST



> clg771@aol.com (CLG771) queried:



>Do they have a web site?

>



Yep...

www.sfherb.com



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Subject: Distance Learning Herbal Schools?

From: AJP <lgoldste@duke.edu>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:58:11 -0500

--------

I'd like the names and addresses of any

"Herbal Schools" with good reputations.



I'm interested in a degree ( in herbal medicine? )

and a solid education . I'd like to study

long distance via computer, mostly.



Thx for replies.



Amy 









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Subject: Re: Distance Learning Herbal Schools?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 00:19:51 GMT

--------

>I'd like the names and addresses of any

>"Herbal Schools" with good reputations.

>

>I'm interested in a degree ( in herbal medicine? )

>and a solid education . I'd like to study

>long distance via computer, mostly.

>

>Thx for replies.

>

>Amy 



Is there such a thing as a degree in herbal medicine in the USA?



Belinda







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Subject: Re: Distance Learning Herbal Schools?

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 20:47:30 -0600

--------

AJP <lgoldste@duke.edu> writes: > I'd like the names and addresses of any

> "Herbal Schools" with good reputations.

> 

> I'm interested in a degree ( in herbal medicine? )

> and a solid education . I'd like to study

> long distance via computer, mostly.

> 

> Thx for replies.

> 

> Amy 

> 

> 

Hi.I too am interested in distance learning schools. I narrowed my choices to Dr. Michael Tierra's East-West Course planetherbs.com, Christopher School of natural healing at theschoolofnaturalhealing.com and 

The Australasian College of Herbal Medicine offers an herbal studies degree herbed.com--I like their program best because they incoporate anatomy/physiology into each lesson along with herbs and some other areas.

You can see the course lessons and details online at their site. They are beginning an online chat for tutorials with faculty and students. Check out these. All seem to have good reputation in the herbal community.

I know that students of all qualify to join the Herb Research Foundation and the American herbalists Guild. Best of luck. 





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Subject: Re: Distance Learning Herbal Schools?

From: turpin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Turpin Robert G)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 17:19:34 GMT

--------

In article <778nlm$ml0$1@news-1.news.gte.net>,

Corina Barone <corina.barone@gte.net> wrote:

>@networksplus.net <@networksplus.net> wrote in message

>these. All seem to have good reputation in the herbal community.

>>I know that students of all qualify to join the Herb Research Foundation

>and the American herbalists Guild. Best of luck.





Anyone can join the Herb Research Foundation. You don't have to have an

herbal education to join.  I believe you also don't have to have an herbal

education to join the American Herbalists Guild either.  I'm not real

certain on that one but, I believe it is so.





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Subject: Re: Distance Learning Herbal Schools?

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:29:06 GMT

--------

On 10 Jan 1999 17:19:34 GMT, turpin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Turpin Robert G) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Anyone can join the Herb Research Foundation. You don't have to have an

>herbal education to join.  I believe you also don't have to have an herbal

>education to join the American Herbalists Guild either.  I'm not real

>certain on that one but, I believe it is so.



Anyone can join the American Herbalists Guild as a supporting member. 

It takes a herbal practice of at least two years, and two AHG professional

member endorsements, to become a professional member.



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Subject: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: tomatoworm@aol.com (Tomatoworm)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 01:43:01 GMT

--------

First post in this NG. ..My wife started taking St. John's Wort recently and

I've read some material on herbal supplement in general. She's taken the

"Shaklee" brand of this. Are there any other brands that someone might

suggest.( Preferably someone who doesn't have a $$ interest in the brand they

are suggesting)



I understand that the FDA doesn't have control over a lot of these herbal

supplement and theat their actual contents can be suspect.



Thanks

Bill Murphy

Boston, MA





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: gallauresi@aol.com (Gallauresi)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 04:18:03 GMT

--------

Hi Bill!



Try Nature's Way it is a brand name carried in most health food stores....it

contains a minimum of .15% hypericin by weight equal to 0.562 mg hpericin per

capsule.  the bottle contains 100 capsules and is a 375mg extract in each. 

This brand was highly recommended by a friend who owns a health food

store...she said they sell the most of this brand and it seems to get good

results..



I hope this helps...no personal gains in suggesting this brand :)



Judy   





>Preferably someone who doesn't have a $$ interest in the brand they

>are suggesting)









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Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 13:43:18 GMT

--------

>Try Nature's Way it is a brand name carried in most health food stores....it

>contains a minimum of .15% hypericin



The recommended concentration of SJW

(as indicated in the book Hypericum and Depression, at www.hypericum.com) is

.30% hypericin.  Nature's Way has only

half that.  I get mine from Puritan's Pride,

a mail order company.  Their products are always buy one get one free, and many

times they have sales of buy on get two, and even buy one get THREE free, which

is when I stock up.  Their phone number is

800-645-1030.



Robin





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: phragmites@my-dejanews.com (Kenneth Masner)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:25:34 GMT

--------

That same (free) book at www.hypericum.com also lists different

standardized, research-grade SJW products by price, and the cheapest

by far is available from the Hypericum Buyers' Club -- 888-HYPERICUM.

It works great for me, and apparently for lots of others.  I have no

other interest in the place. -- KM



On 5 Jan 1999 13:43:18 GMT, mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2) wrote:



>>Try Nature's Way it is a brand name carried in most health food stores....it

>>contains a minimum of .15% hypericin

>

>The recommended concentration of SJW

>(as indicated in the book Hypericum and Depression, at www.hypericum.com) is

>.30% hypericin.  Nature's Way has only

>half that.  I get mine from Puritan's Pride,

>a mail order company.  Their products are always buy one get one free, and many

>times they have sales of buy on get two, and even buy one get THREE free, which

>is when I stock up.  Their phone number is

>800-645-1030.

>

>Robin







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:33:59 GMT

--------

On >Tue, Jan 5, 1999 08:43 EST

>mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2) advised:



>>Try Nature's Way it is a brand name carried in most health food stores....it

>>contains a minimum of .15% hypericin

>

>The recommended concentration of SJW

>(as indicated in the book Hypericum and Depression, at www.hypericum.com) is

>.30% hypericin.  Nature's Way has only

>half that. 



<snip>



Now I'm afraid I'm going to sound like a dummy but what,

exactly, does that mean?



If two brands are - say - 300 mg pills - Brand A is .15% and

Brand B is .30% hypericin...  Does this mean that one must

take twice as many Brand A pills to achieve the same effect

as Brand B?



It certainly *looks* that way on the surface, but I'd like to

make sure...



Thanks for the info :-)



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Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:23:28 GMT

--------

tomatoworm@aol.com (Tomatoworm) wrote:



>First post in this NG. ..My wife started taking St. John's Wort recently and

>I've read some material on herbal supplement in general. She's taken the

>"Shaklee" brand of this. Are there any other brands that someone might

>suggest.



You mean you don't want to hear about my Sooper D-luxe herbal

product hand-harvested by headhunters in the Amazon with a

5-level marketing plan that will make you rich as soon as you

find a sucker to buy some? 



Didn't think so.



I make a tea of the loose herb I buy from a local shop.  The

trick for getting quality loose SJW is to look for a shop where

the product has a lot of yellow in it (the flowerbuds) and a

minimum of straw (the stems).



Nature's way is a reliable brand of capsules.





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Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 05:47:07 -0800

--------

I harvest my own and make fresh plant tincture, that was you get all the

components.



I would  not bother with the tea since this is an herb that is best used

fresh.



Nature's Way makes good capsules. HerbPharm makes a good tincture as well.













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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: tomatoworm@aol.com (Tomatoworm)

Date: 6 Jan 1999 20:28:43 GMT

--------

Hey,



Thanks for all the infor on my original post..you people are great and very

helpful...EXCEPT THE FEW WHO WERE TRYING TO SELL ME THEIR PYRAMID SCHEMES!!!..

Thanks again



Bill 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ST JOHN'S WORT

From: profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 03:28:24 GMT

--------

I take the Solaray brand of St. John's Wort and it works great for me!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: question

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:55:54 -0600

--------

can anyone tell me what some of the fastest acting herbs are and if any

herbs have dramatic beneficial effects?  Its my understanding herbs work

fairly slowly.  Please correct me if that's wrong.  Do any herbs work

fast at all, for any illness or discomfort?  Thank you all.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:15:12 +0800

--------

The pharmokinetics..effacy and potency etc, of any natural or artificial

remedy can depend on many individual's traits/metabolism etc and the

drug/body,receptor interactions some will take time some are slow acting

some require one dose and others many.  The administration of the drug also

contributes to the release within the body. Sublingual will enter the blood

avoiding the hepatic first pass initially so will intra venously or via the

bum (as long as you don't go past 1/3 of the way into the anus) but if

swallowed it may be absorbed in the stomach or the intestine depending on

its properties and the internal environment.  Read a bit on the problem and

then the options available and administration and pharmokinetics to help

support the blurb above it would be enlightening.



J



eyoll@mcia.com wrote in message <3691712A.4FF1@mcia.com>...

>can anyone tell me what some of the fastest acting herbs are and if any

>herbs have dramatic beneficial effects?  Its my understanding herbs work

>fairly slowly.  Please correct me if that's wrong.  Do any herbs work

>fast at all, for any illness or discomfort?  Thank you all.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: question

From: "me" <shang_john@hotmail.com>

Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:32:45 PST

--------

Hi are there any good herbal remedies for seborrheic dermatitis.



I seem to have a problem with modern medicines and all their chemicals.



I have responded well to herbal medicine in the past



thanks









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Subject: Re: question

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:23:01 -0800

--------

me wrote:



> Hi are there any good herbal remedies for seborrheic dermatitis.

>

> I seem to have a problem with modern medicines and all their chemicals.

>

> I have responded well to herbal medicine in the past

>

> thanks



True, unpasturized Apple Cider Vinegar, applied and allowed to dry has

worked well for my family.  It was applied 3 times a day for 10 days, and

taken internally as 2T. in 8 oz. water each day.  Problems must be attacked

from the inside, as well as out.

Kathleen





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:50:47 -0600

--------

Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com> wrote:

>me wrote:

>

>> Hi are there any good herbal remedies for seborrheic dermatitis.

>>

>> I seem to have a problem with modern medicines and all their chemicals.



A low carbohydrate diet did wonders for it for me, which is understandable

since it has a fungal component.



-- 

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: A question on switching from Xanax to Kava Kava

From: "Spam Me Not!" <Hello@How's.every.little.thing?>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 02:09:13 GMT

--------

Hello all,

How goes it?

My SO wants to get off Xanax, and switch to Kava Kava.

Has anyone ever tried this switch before?  Is there a grace period

between xanax, and Kava Kava? How long does it take for the Kava Kava to



kick in? And what did you do about your anxiety while you were waiting

for the Kava Kava to take effect?

Boy! do I ask a lot of questions.

Thanks in advance.. I'd like to try to make her as comfortable as

possible... aren't I a nice guy?

Peace

-G.

I said Kava Kava *way* too many times in this post. I think this must be



the Kava Kava post of the century.

:)



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no choreography, and the dancers hit each other.









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Subject: Re: A question on switching from Xanax to Kava Kava

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:26:29 GMT

--------

"Spam Me Not!" <Hello@How's.every.little.thing?> wrote:



>My SO wants to get off Xanax, and switch to Kava Kava.

>Has anyone ever tried this switch before?  Is there a grace period

>between xanax, and Kava Kava? How long does it take for the Kava Kava to

>kick in? And what did you do about your anxiety while you were waiting

>for the Kava Kava to take effect?



  Your SO should have a talk with the doctor who prescribed the

Xanax FIRST to figure out a plan for decreasing the Xanax dosage.

It might be one of those drugs where quitting abruptly is not a

good idea.



  KAVA KAVA has a relatively rapid effect, so she might be able

to just start using it for anxiety as she decreases the Xanax.







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Subject: Re: A question on switching from Xanax to Kava Kava

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 06:19:07 -0800

--------





Tsu Dho Nimh wrote:



> >My SO wants to get off Xanax, and switch to Kava Kava.

> >Has anyone ever tried this switch before?  Is there a grace period

> >between xanax, and Kava Kava? How long does it take for the Kava Kava to

> >kick in? And what did you do about your anxiety while you were waiting

> >for the Kava Kava to take effect?

>

>   Your SO should have a talk with the doctor who prescribed the

> Xanax FIRST to figure out a plan for decreasing the Xanax dosage.

> It might be one of those drugs where quitting abruptly is not a

> good idea.



Xanax, (or most any benzo for that matter), definitely should not be abruptly

quit, especially if you have been taking it more than a month or so and

especially if you have been taking it on a scheduled basis rather than PRN.



There is a website by a shrink on discontinuing Xanax at

http://www.lexington-on-line.com/naf_xanax.html



Easy does it.



Gordon







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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: "Darlene" <camden@uninets.net>

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:20:35 -0500

--------

Charles,

I thought I suffered from anxiety/panic attacks and have treated with

klonipin for them..however, today my doctor said that he feels that these

are not panic attacks. Sometimes there can be another medical disorder that

maybe causing them and you can be masking the problem by taking this other

stuff. I am going to be checked for something to do with an extra wire going

to my heart...

Good luck,

Darlene

Charles wrote in message ...

>

>treesrcool wrote in message <368c0bfd.28273441@news.auracom.com>...

>>Is SJW of any use to a person experiencing panic attacks?

>>

>In my experience,using SJW for panic attacks works if the attacks are

fairly

>infrequent. When I was at my worst (10-12 attacks a day) I required more

>aggressive medical intervention. With Panic Disorder, one often becomes

>extremely depressed which can lead to negative thoughts including suicide.

>It is no good to begin experimenting with various remedies when one is

>spinning out of control. I took the "drug route" and when I had some

control

>regained I eased off the medication, began with SJW and a whole new regime

>including herbal teas, no caffeine, exercise and much positive "self-talk".

>

>The effects of SJW are very subtle (in my experience). I would say that

>taking a capsule would not stop a panic attack.

>

>My heart goes out to the person suffering. PD is a hidden, misunderstood

>disorder (often genetically linked). Hang in there...anxiety always peaks

>and comes down. Wait it out.

>

>C.

>

>









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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:47:55 +0000

--------

In article <YLsk2.69013$c8.33562209@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>,

Charles <charley*nospam*@canada.com> releases a small spider to scrawl

across the page..

>

>Darlene wrote in message ...

>>Charles,

>>I thought I suffered from anxiety/panic attacks and have treated with

>>klonipin for them..however, today my doctor said that he feels that these

>>are not panic attacks. Sometimes there can be another medical disorder that

>>maybe causing them and you can be masking the problem by taking this other

>>stuff. I am going to be checked for something to do with an extra wire

>going

>>to my heart...

>>Good luck,

>>Darlene

>>

>Thanks for the tip Darlene. Checking this heart thing out was part of my

>medical exam back then. Ticker is just fine.

>

>C.

>

>

 An article in a British paper fairly recently outlined the case of a

lady who had found her panic attacks were helped by valerian. She also

found that her attacks co-incided with a drop in her blood sugar levels,

so she ensured she ate regular meals, and if I remember rightly avoided

stimulants like caffeine.

 Hope it helps! 

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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To: treesrcool <chainsaw@softhome.net>

Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net>

Date: 07 Jan 1999 13:30:50 PST

--------

Hey there,

 I haven't heard og SJW being used for panic attacks. But I do know that

there is a product called Rescue Remedy that works very well in such

cases. It is sold at a number of Homeopathic and herb stores



treesrcool wrote:



> Is SJW of any use to a person experiencing panic attacks?

>

>   Thanks











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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:12:19 -0800

--------

How to improve in Rescue Remedy. Many peopole make a treatment bottle from

the mother tincture by adding 2 drops to a 1 oz bottle of spring water with

a tsp of brandy in it for preservation. Instead of the brandy try Devil's

Club tincture. The alcohol in the tincture will act as a preservative but

you get the benefir of the herb (gives you emotional strength)  I learned

this from Deborah Frances a ND/Lakota Medicine Woman here in Oregon.



Green Blessings,

Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 03:26:42 GMT

--------

Food allergies are often responsible for the heart pounding feeling and

suffocation that go along with panic attacks.  I found that mine subsided when

I quit eating chocolate and that I tend to get attacks if I even eat a little

chocolate.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: "picloud" <ncoffey@viser.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 06:52:26 GMT

--------





John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net> wrote in article

<369525FF.CD96CEC5@concentric.net>...

> Hey there,

>  I haven't heard og SJW being used for panic attacks. But I do know that

> there is a product called Rescue Remedy that works very well in such

> cases. It is sold at a number of Homeopathic and herb stores

> 

> treesrcool wrote:

> 

> > Is SJW of any use to a person experiencing panic attacks?

> >

> >   Thanks

> 

> 

> 

> 

Please be careful with SJW!  It contains an MAO inhibitor.  MA's can cause

panic attacks.  I had one after too much SJW on top of a lunch rich in

cheese.  Fortunately it was mild enough and I knew the probable cause of

the symptoms.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: pebbs123@my-dejanews.com

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:05:57 GMT

--------

In article <01be3ec1$f9fd7460$5dc868d1@default>,

  "picloud" <ncoffey@viser.net> wrote:

>

>

> John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net> wrote in article

> <369525FF.CD96CEC5@concentric.net>...

> > Hey there,

> >  I haven't heard og SJW being used for panic attacks. But I do know that

> > there is a product called Rescue Remedy that works very well in such

> > cases. It is sold at a number of Homeopathic and herb stores

> >

> > treesrcool wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Please be careful with SJW!  It contains an MAO inhibitor.  MA's can cause

> panic attacks.  I had one after too much SJW on top of a lunch rich in

> cheese.  Fortunately it was mild enough and I knew the probable cause of

> the symptoms.

>

> SJW contains an MAO inhibitor???? Can you tell me where i can read about this

info? If this is true you can get worse than panic attacks after eating cheese

while taking SJW.



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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:10:11 GMT

--------

>> SJW contains an MAO inhibitor???? Can you tell me where i can read about

>this

>info? If this is true you can get worse than panic attacks after eating

>cheese

>while taking SJW.



NO, NO, NO.  It does NOT.  And NO, NO,

NO.  You WON'T.  Sheesh.  Read about the stuff.  I take the stuff all the time,

I eat cheese all the time, a lot of it, and if you'll read the

info on it (www.hypericum.com) you will

know that neither of these things is true.  I

have NEVER had any kind of reaction to it such as this, and wouldn't either. 

Sorry, I

get annoyed when people spew about stuff

they know nothing about.



Ma





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: ahsalie@mweb.co.za

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:05:15 GMT

--------



>NO.  You WON'T.  Sheesh.  Read about the stuff.  I take the stuff all the time,

>I eat cheese all the time, a lot of it, and if you'll read the

>info on it (www.hypericum.com) you will

>know that neither of these things is true.  I

>have NEVER had any kind of reaction to it such as this, and wouldn't either. 

>Sorry, I

>get annoyed when people spew about stuff

>they know nothing about.

>

>Ma



The only real side-effect is some photosensitivity. This though is

very rare and only seen when the recommended dose is exceeded.

More does not mean a better effect.





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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:13:35 GMT

--------

>>NO.  You WON'T.  Sheesh.  Read about the stuff.  I take the stuff all the

>time,

>>I eat cheese all the time, a lot of it, and if you'll read the

>>info on it (www.hypericum.com) you will

>>know that neither of these things is true.  I

>>have NEVER had any kind of reaction to it such as this, and wouldn't either.

>

>>Sorry, I

>>get annoyed when people spew about stuff

>>they know nothing about.

>>

>>Ma

>

>The only real side-effect is some photosensitivity. This though is

>very rare and only seen when the recommended dose is exceeded.

>More does not mean a better effect.



The photosensitivity thing is a load of crap.



Belinda









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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: BB2 <blessedby2@home.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:20:11 GMT

--------





LEvans1044 wrote:



> >>NO.  You WON'T.  Sheesh.  Read about the stuff.  I take the stuff all the

> >time,

> >>I eat cheese all the time, a lot of it, and if you'll read the

> >>info on it (www.hypericum.com) you will

> >>know that neither of these things is true.  I

> >>have NEVER had any kind of reaction to it such as this, and wouldn't either.

> >

> >>Sorry, I

> >>get annoyed when people spew about stuff

> >>they know nothing about.

> >>

> >>Ma

> >

> >The only real side-effect is some photosensitivity. This though is

> >very rare and only seen when the recommended dose is exceeded.

> >More does not mean a better effect.

>

> The photosensitivity thing is a load of crap.

>

> Belinda





The photosensitivity thing is NOT a load of crap, and it is not seen only in high

doses -- there is at least one documented medical case now (which came out this

summer), and I know personally of three other people who had the same reaction as

the one that is medically documented.  I'm a proponent of SJW, my son has had no

problems whatsoever with any side effects including photosensitivity or MAOI

reactions even though he took a high dose, but the "facts" are still the facts ...

please look at the following website, which is more up to date than anything else

I've seen ... the hypericum.com website is a good starter place, but it is quite

old by now, and in need of an update.



http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ



BB2







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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:08:07 GMT

--------

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:20:11 GMT, BB2 <blessedby2@home.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>The photosensitivity thing is NOT a load of crap, and it is not seen only in high

>doses -- there is at least one documented medical case now (which came out this

>summer), and I know personally of three other people who had the same reaction as



I'd be interested in details. It's well-known that SJW in synergy with

pharmaceutical anti-depressants can give you photosensitivity. 



Now, that's a synergistic effect. SJW on its own won't do it.



So give, what meds were these good people on?



Henriette



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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: "loki" <loki@inlink.com>

Date: 19 Jan 1999 17:09:36 GMT

--------

Henriette Kress <hetta@saunalahti.fi> wrote in 

> 

> I'd be interested in details. It's well-known that SJW in synergy with

> pharmaceutical anti-depressants can give you photosensitivity. 

> 

> Now, that's a synergistic effect. SJW on its own won't do it.

> 

> So give, what meds were these good people on?



It happened to me.  I wasn't taking any pharmaceutical anti-depressants

either.  I do take several asthma meds.



Basically, the photosensitivity thing was not big deal.  I was taking a

fairly low dose of SJW (about a third of the recommended dose) for a very

mild situation I was going through.  



I am very fair and have auburn hair so I'm always aware of the sun's

effect.  I had been outdoors longer than usual without a sunscreen as I was

showing a guest around town and had simply forgotten to use it.  

I was out in the sun for about an hour (which normally produces a nasty

sunburn in me) and when I looked in the mirror, sure enough I looked like a

lobster.  I didn't understand it though, as it did not hurt.



Basically, I got out of he sun then and in a few hours it had faded and I

had no burn at all.



Now, this makes no sense, but that is what happened to me.  I can only

conclude that it was the photosensitivity associated with SJW that caused

this.



Loki





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Subject: Re: St.John's Wort for panic attacks?

From: steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:54:44 GMT

--------

On 18 Jan 1999 01:13:35 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote:





>The photosensitivity thing is a load of crap.

>

>Belinda

>

Belinda, 

It takes a large dose to cause photosensitivity but it's not a load of

crap. It is a well documented problem with animals eating whole plants

and then developing quite severe skin sensitivity. We are just another

animal.



Steve

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http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk





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Subject: Re: New to group - many questions

From: herbs <herbs@i-zone.demon.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:57:36 +0000

--------

In article <76c282$42c$1@camel0.mindspring.com>, Nancy

<sw357mag@mindspring.com> writes

>

>

>>First of all - Echinacea - it seems to be all I hear about lately.

>

>I take echinacea for sinusitis/bronchitis. I, for one, swear by it.

>

>nancy

>

>

>

>

Hi



how does it help bronchitis/ I suffer from this every other year, living

in a damp climate. How much do you have to take?



John

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Subject: Re: Herbs in U.S. law, what are they?

From: herbs <herbs@i-zone.demon.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:10:16 +0000

--------

In article <368b7e4e.59527810@news.primenet.com>, Tsu Dho Nimh

<abacaxi@hotmail.com> writes

>bahwi <bahwi@technologist.com> wrote:

>

>>What are herbs considered under U.S. law? Medication? Medicine?

>>Drugs? Or Food Supplements? 

>

>  Most of them are considered food supplements or condiments ...

>except for the few that are considered illegal (marijuana,

>ibogaine and in some states, jimson weed)

>

>  Those you grow yourself are considered garden plants.

>

>



[perhaps off topic]



why is/are ibogaine and jimson weed considered illegal? (I'm not

resident US and have no knowledge of these plants)



what can [herbalistically] they be used for?



thanks

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Subject: Re: Herbs in U.S. law, what are they?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:51:40 GMT

--------

herbs <herbs@i-zone.demon.co.uk> wrote:



>why is/are ibogaine and jimson weed considered illegal? (I'm not

>resident US and have no knowledge of these plants)



ibogaine is an African plant and a very powerful hallucinogen,

being used experimentally in some other countries to help break

cocaine addiction.



Jimson weed (one or more of the Datura species which grow wild

over much of the US) is also a powerful hallucinogen, with the

side effect of being deadly because other effects (not to mention

the iwerd things people do on it).  It's also of unpredictable

strength - two plants growing side by side can have different

concentrations of the hallucinogen, so do-it-yourself dosing is

not easy.



The US DEA has a problem with "recreational herbs" ... 





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Subject: warts

From: wilson goodrich <wgcrfoto@sopris.net>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 06:36:30 -0600

--------

i understand there is a great herb for the cure of warts.  i have had

several on both hands for a while and traditonal nitrogen freezing has

not worked.  any help out there?





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Subject: Re: warts

From: "Miss Mim" <missmim@chickasaw.com>

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:04:59 GMT

--------

There are several choices Bitter root (apocynum androsaemifolium), Bitter

sweet (solanum dulcamara), Blood root (sanguinaria canadensis),

__"Celandine"__(chelidonium majus), Cypress berrys (cupressus), Milk weed

(asclepias syriaca), Dandelion (Leontodon taraxacum), and Fig just for

starters.

All of these are used the same way. When you break the stalk/stem it oozes

a milky latex sap. Dab this on the wart a couple of times a day. With in

days you will notice a Great improvement. (the fig is best when green )

Another really GOOD remedy I  would recommend that is easier to find in the

"winter" is Castor Oil applied several times a day. This our family

favorite.

Yours,

Mim

wilson goodrich <wgcrfoto@sopris.net> wrote in article

<3692074D.D80@sopris.net>...

> i understand there is a great herb for the cure of warts.  i have had

> several on both hands for a while and traditonal nitrogen freezing has

> not worked.  any help out there?

> 





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To: wgcrfoto@sopris.net

Subject: Re: warts

From: John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net>

Date: 07 Jan 1999 13:21:00 PST

--------

Wilson,

 There is a folk remedy that calls for using dandelion sap on the wart. I

never have tried it but it might help.

Best Wishes



wilson goodrich wrote:



> i understand there is a great herb for the cure of warts.  i have had

> several on both hands for a while and traditonal nitrogen freezing has

> not worked.  any help out there?











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Subject: Re: warts

From: "Mike" <lundie@nternet.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:04:43 -0500

--------

Angelica wrote in message ...

>>wilson goodrich wrote:

>>

>>> i understand there is a great herb for the cure of warts.  i have had

>>> several on both hands for a while and traditonal nitrogen freezing has

>>> not worked.  any help out there?

>>

> There is a homeopathic remedy for warts that I've been told is

>successful, it's called Thuja. Might be worth a try!







The homeopathic remedy is called "thuja occidentalis", derived from the

cedar tree.  I have tried it for warts on my hands but found that, in order

to use it properly, took far too much discipline.  Basically, you dissolve

(3) of these tiny pills under your tongue EVERY HOUR.  Treatment takes weeks

before even noticing any effect.  I gave up after about two weeks (got tired

of watching the clock!)



Another treatment is topical application of tea tree oil.  Tea tree oil is

supposed to be  a naturally antiviral substance.  Here, too, patience is

paramount.



Best of luck.











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Subject: Re: warts

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:56:20 +0000

--------

Angelica wrote:



> >wilson goodrich wrote:

> >

> >> i understand there is a great herb for the cure of warts.  i have had

> >> several on both hands for a while and traditonal nitrogen freezing has

> >> not worked.  any help out there?

> >

> >

> >



I had a small one on my elbow. I heard about dandelion sap and have been

useing it for the past week. The wart is almost gone now and another few

days should do it.

I place a small amount of the sap directly on the wart and then some tape

over the top

every night. I have heard that the warts dont do well without oxygen that is

the reason for the tape and also to keep the sap in place.



Good Luck.



Simon.







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Subject: Piment???

From: gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:36:46 GMT

--------

I know that Piment is a herb in German... what is called it in

English... and what is it. Any info is greatly appreciated.



Thanx

   Steff



(steff-t at geocities dot com)





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Subject: Re: Piment???

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:53:59 GMT

--------

gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren) wrote:



>I know that Piment is a herb in German... what is called it in

>English... and what is it. Any info is greatly appreciated.



perhaps what we call "chilis" - Capsicum annua or thre classic

Mexican hot spicy thing.







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Subject: Re: Piment???

From: gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren)

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:00:28 GMT

--------

On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:53:59 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

wrote:



>gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren) wrote:

>

>>I know that Piment is a herb in German... what is called it in

>>English... and what is it. Any info is greatly appreciated.

>



I just found out that it was Allspice (aka Jamaican Pepper).



Thanks anyway







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Subject: Re: Piment???

From: HeK@hetta.pp.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:49:49 GMT

--------

On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:53:59 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren) wrote:

>

>>I know that Piment is a herb in German... what is called it in

>>English... and what is it. Any info is greatly appreciated.

>

>perhaps what we call "chilis" - Capsicum annua or thre classic

>Mexican hot spicy thing.



No. It's allspice, latin name of Pimenta dioica.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Piment???

From: "Sweet Market" <sweetmkt@hotmail.com>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:53:59 -0500

--------

"Piment"  aka: piment couronnee (Fr): Eugenia pimentoides; common name:

clove.  Commission E Monographs on cloves (p. 112 by the American Botanical

Council)- Actions: antiseptic, antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, topical

anesthetic, antispasmodic.



A couple of excellent reference books:

"A Dictionary of Natural Products" by George Macdoanald Hocking

"The Complete German Commission E Monographs-Therapeutic Guide to Herbal

Medicines" by Blumenthal, et al.



Bernhard Tschirren wrote in message <3691f341.6297800@news.icenet.com.au>...

>I know that Piment is a herb in German... what is called it in

>English... and what is it. Any info is greatly appreciated.

>

>Thanx

>   Steff

>

>(steff-t at geocities dot com)









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Sorry!

From: Martha <stewartbros@erols.com>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:06:12 -0500

--------

Not to be redundant, but I missed the question and answers about

skincrack. My boyfriend's hands are a mess (he works outside and can't

wear gloves).  The fingertips get cracked 'till they bleed.  I've tried

putting bag balm on them, but it doesn't seem to work. Sorry to be

redundant, but any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.





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Subject: Re: Sorry!

From: me@moggymiaow.demon.co.uk (moggy)

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:44:37 GMT

--------

I know this is meant to be a herbs newsgroup, but I have to confess

that the most successful cure is petroleum jelly. Apply when

practical, preferabley at night and cover is practical.  It is the

only this that has ever worked, I suppose you could mix a few drops of

lavender oil in to make it a herbal remedy :-)





On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:06:12 -0500, Martha <stewartbros@erols.com>

wrote:



>Not to be redundant, but I missed the question and answers about

>skincrack. My boyfriend's hands are a mess (he works outside and can't

>wear gloves).  The fingertips get cracked 'till they bleed.  I've tried

>putting bag balm on them, but it doesn't seem to work. Sorry to be

>redundant, but any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.







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Subject: Re: Sorry!

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 21:01:13 -0600

--------

Martha <stewartbros@erols.com> writes: > Not to be redundant, but I missed the question and answers about

> skincrack. My boyfriend's hands are a mess (he works outside and can't

> wear gloves).  The fingertips get cracked 'till they bleed.  I've tried

> putting bag balm on them, but it doesn't seem to work. Sorry to be

> redundant, but any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.



Sorry....there is a great hand salve that comes in a tin called "farmer's friend" that is made by a company in Maine. I have found it at not only health stores but also

at farm supply places and garden stores. It is great for cracked hands. Other than that, cocoa butter, aloe, something with calendula. There are some

salves at Mountain Rose herbs...they have a site online. Once the hands are cracked, you could soak them with a calendulaa compress--make  a tea from calendula flowers

and soak a wash cloth in it and apply that to the hands...or Boericke and Tafel makes Califlora gel which is calendula gel.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Folliculitis

From: labelX@concentric.net (me)

Date: 05 Jan 1999 12:29:59 PST

--------

Have been prescribed "bactroban" by my dermatologist, but its

extremely expensive, and I'd like to find an herbal remedy that has

the same pharmacological effects, any ideas?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pau D'Arco Question/Candida

From: MMB <mmb@jps.net>

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:02:52 -0800

--------

I have found that I cannot take Nystatin - am trying to get my candidiasis under

control.  The lady at the health food store sold me some Mycopryl (caprylic acid) and

said that some use Pau D'Arco tea also.



Anybody had any experience in this area.  I have had to take many courses of

antibiotics and my intestinal flora is bonkers.  I am taking Metagenics

acidophilus/bifidus, but the candida seems to have invaded my whole intestinal

tract.  The Nystatin makes me so sick I can't function and I am taking loads of

garlic, both fresh and dried -



Any comments on treating candida naturally would be appreciated.  Please email me

direct also, besides posting as my ISP is deleting messages on the NGs every 24 hours

and I can't always sign on that regularly!







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Subject: Re: Pau D'Arco Question/Candida

From: "loki" <loki@inlink.com>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 12:41:42 GMT

--------

Perry Bruget <perrybruget@accomplishments.com> wrote in article 

> MMB wrote in message <36927DFC.9E3676C3@jps.net>...

> >I have found that I cannot take Nystatin - am trying to get my

candidiasis

> under

> >control.  The lady at the health food store sold me some Mycopryl

(caprylic

> acid) and

> >said that some use Pau D'Arco tea also.

> >

> >Anybody had any experience in this area.  I have had to take many

courses

> of

> >antibiotics and my intestinal flora is bonkers.  I am taking Metagenics

> >acidophilus/bifidus, but the candida seems to have invaded my whole

> intestinal

> >tract.  The Nystatin makes me so sick I can't function and I am taking

> loads of

> >garlic, both fresh and dried -

> >

> >Any comments on treating candida naturally would be appreciated.  Please

> email me

> >direct also, besides posting as my ISP is deleting messages on the NGs

> every 24 hours

> >and I can't always sign on that regularly!



I have used Pau D'Arco often and I find it is wonderful fo this.  I also

find that if I use the tea when I have a sinus infection, I don't need the

antibiotics that gave me the candida in the first place.



Thrush is a common side effect of some asthma meds I take and the tea works

well on this as it does on other types of candida.



Loki

 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Echinacea Study in Canada

From: "Decker" <Decker@hotmail.com>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 23:46:22 GMT

--------

Thought I would relate a story that I heard on CBC radio here in Canada

this morning.  Doctors from Dalhousie University Medical School in Nova

Scotia, had been conducting tests on Echinacea to see if it actually did

jump start the immune system and live up to all the claims about it of

late.  Before they started testing, they were convinced it would not work. 

The main reason was because most of the previous testing on it had been

done in Germany, but had been done in vitro (sp?) only, in otherwords in a

test tube or injected into animals, not ingested.  Seems there is a

particular ingredient in Echinacea that is the catalyst for the cell

stimulation.  Apparently, this ingredient (also found in other things)  is

normally destroyed or neutralized by digestive enzymes when taken by mouth.

 That's why they did not expect the results to be in Echinacea's favor.



They injected Echinacea into mice that had a virus that is also found in

humans.  Apparently they chose mice because their immune and digestive

system is very much like humans.  To their surprise, the Echinacea did

stimulate the cells in the immune system and the virus disappeared in much

quicker than normal time.  I already knew it worked, having destroyed colds

and flu in their infancy by taking it myself.  It is nice to have the

medical community confirm it though.



That's the good news. The bad news (at least for us Canadians) is that

there is a problem with manufacturers mislabelling.  The researchers

purchased 10 different brands of Echinacea from around Halifax. 

Unfortunately, 8 out of 10 either did not have enough Echinacea in order to

do any good, or did not have the amount that the bottle claimed it did. 

Only 2 brands had the amount shown on the label.  Unfortunately, they did

not mention either the bad or good brands they purchased.



Thought I would share :-)



Decker





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Subject: want info on an herb/condition 

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 5 Jan 1999 20:54:39 -0600

--------

To fellow herbalists and persons who practice alternative medicine. I use herbs myself and I get a lot of people saying "oh, they are natural so they are hamrmless." For the most part, herbal medicine is safe!

But, there are contraindications and interactions with existing drugs the person may be taking. 

If you would like info on specific herbs, herbal remedies for dis-ease/conditions or other alternative medicine topics, 

check out this site:www.angelfire.com/ks/healthyselff.









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Subject: Herbal Viagara?

From: Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 6 Jan 1999 03:52:56 GMT

--------

Does anybody have any info on a product called Herbal V?  I saw a poster

for it in the window of a local nutrition store.



Bj







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Subject: Re: Herbal Viagara?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 6 Jan 1999 12:30:26 GMT

--------

>Does anybody have any info on a product called Herbal V?  I saw a poster

>for it in the window of a local nutrition store.

>

>Bj



Could it be oats?



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herb storage

From: "Robert L" <notlytle@ijntb.net>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:03:01 -0600

--------

What are the best methods for storing herbs?



We are thinking of useing quart mason jars painted brown to keep the light

out, then vacumn sealing with a little hand pump that we have.  My concern

is that when I have vacumn sealed just an empty jar, moisture forms on the

inside. (We live on the gulf coast with high humidity)  I had thought to put

a dessicant in the jar with the herbs before sealing, although I'm not sure,

with vacumn sealing, that it will do any good.



P.S.  We don't want to spend a fortune.  Also does anyone have plans for an

inexpensive tincture press?



Thanks, Robert









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Subject: Re: Herb storage

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 7 Jan 1999 00:24:02 GMT

--------

>What are the best methods for storing herbs?

>

>We are thinking of useing quart mason jars painted brown to keep the light

>out, then vacumn sealing with a little hand pump that we have.  My concern

>is that when I have vacumn sealed just an empty jar, moisture forms on the

>inside. (We live on the gulf coast with high humidity)  I had thought to put

>a dessicant in the jar with the herbs before sealing, although I'm not sure,

>with vacumn sealing, that it will do any good.

>

>P.S.  We don't want to spend a fortune.  Also does anyone have plans for an

>inexpensive tincture press?

>

>Thanks, Robert



Once I've dried my herbs I store them in brown paper bags.



Haven't got plans for a press but I could sell you one. 



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:11:39 -0500

--------

Liz Hanson wrote in message ...

>In article <svNh2.1023$B46.1936876@newshog.newsread.com>, Richard Ogden

><pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> writes

>>

>>Liz, Meadowsweet, like the willows, contains

>>natural salicylates, but does

>>not contain aspirin, which is a made by

>>chemically combining salicin or

>>salicylic acid with acetic acid (i.e.:

>>vinegar) to form acetylsalicylic

>>acid.  The natural salicylates are generally

>>dose-for-dose much harder on

>>the stomach lining than aspirin and not as

>>well tolerated by most people on

>>an equivalent-dose basis.

>>

>>-Rich

>>

>>

>>

>Thank you, Rich, for putting me right on the chemistry.  I find this

>interesting.  In several herbals meadowsweet is recommended for gastric

>problems (ulcers etc.).  Are you suggesting that manufactured aspirin would

>be better than the natural herb for that?



No, Liz, I only mentioned that aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) is not known

to occur in plants, and that the naturally-occurring forms of salicylates

are harder on the stomach when taken in doses that produce comparable

anti-inflammatory or antipyretic responses.  Meadowsweet may contain other

compounds in addition to the salicylates that moderate the effect on the

stomach, or may contain so little salicylate in the doses ordinarily

consumed as to produce little noticeable irritation.



>I know that some people don't

>take aspirin because it can *cause* stomach problems.  And as I wrote

>before, I know one person who regards meadowsweet as a wonder-herb who

would

>not touch manufactured aspirin.





Aspirin does cause stomach problems.  Some people are able to tolerate

aspirin, others are not.  I was told by one doctor friend that aspirin

*always* causes some bleeding, even in people who tolerate it well.  There

are many people who will not take OTC medications despite the extensive

research that goes into them, even those like aspirin with a history of many

years of use, who would not hesitate to swallow anything that had "herb" or

"natural" on the label.  Go figure...



>Do you have references to modern studies on this subject?



I am not aware of any modern studies on meadowsweet.



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 14:57:50 -0600

--------

"Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> writes: > Liz Hanson wrote in message ...

> >In article <svNh2.1023$B46.1936876@newshog.newsread.com>, Richard Ogden

> ><pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> writes

> >>

> >>Liz, Meadowsweet, like the willows, contains

> >>natural salicylates, but does

> >>not contain aspirin, which is a made by

> >>chemically combining salicin or

> >>salicylic acid with acetic acid (i.e.:

> >>vinegar) to form acetylsalicylic

> >>acid.  The natural salicylates are generally

> >>dose-for-dose much harder on

> >>the stomach lining than aspirin and not as

> >>well tolerated by most people on

> >>an equivalent-dose basis.

> >>

> >>-Rich

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >Thank you, Rich, for putting me right on the chemistry.  I find this

> >interesting.  In several herbals meadowsweet is recommended for gastric

> >problems (ulcers etc.).  Are you suggesting that manufactured aspirin would

> >be better than the natural herb for that?

> 

> No, Liz, I only mentioned that aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) is not known

> to occur in plants, and that the naturally-occurring forms of salicylates

> are harder on the stomach when taken in doses that produce comparable

> anti-inflammatory or antipyretic responses.  Meadowsweet may contain other

> compounds in addition to the salicylates that moderate the effect on the

> stomach, or may contain so little salicylate in the doses ordinarily

> consumed as to produce little noticeable irritation.

> 

> >I know that some people don't

> >take aspirin because it can *cause* stomach problems.  And as I wrote

> >before, I know one person who regards meadowsweet as a wonder-herb who

> would

> >not touch manufactured aspirin.

> 

> 

> Aspirin does cause stomach problems.  Some people are able to tolerate

> aspirin, others are not.  I was told by one doctor friend that aspirin

> *always* causes some bleeding, even in people who tolerate it well.  There

> are many people who will not take OTC medications despite the extensive

> research that goes into them, even those like aspirin with a history of many

> years of use, who would not hesitate to swallow anything that had "herb" or

> "natural" on the label.  Go figure...

> 

> >Do you have references to modern studies on this subject?

> 

> I am not aware of any modern studies on meadowsweet.

> 

> -Rich

> 

> 

> 

Besides meadowsweet, I also take  garlic to keep inflammation down and glucosamine sulfate 500mg twice a day; 

most people who have intorduced GS into their regimens report less stiffness and aches.I get mine through vitaminshoppe.com

I have heard that sea cucumber is also used for arthritis, as welll as yucca. For nerve pain, St. John's Wort either internally or as an oil applied exterbnally

can help. Externally for pain in joints you can use cayenne in capsacin cream or Boswellian cream--do not get in your eyes!







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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Bob Sokol" <sokol@prolynx.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:58:34 -0500

--------

What about for children who are at high risk for developing Arthritis? Any

ideas for them?



Willow









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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:06:11 +0000

--------

Bob Sokol wrote:

> 

> What about for children who are at high risk for developing Arthritis? Any

> ideas for them?

> 

> Willow





Hi



There isn't really any such thing as 'arthritis' alone - 



My mother and dad's brother both have crippling Rheumatoid Arthritis.

I'm figuring that this gives me a pretty good chance of picking out the

'short' gene.  Nothing yet thank God.



RA is an autoimmune disease - bodies attacking themselves, white blood

cell riot.  Noone knows why it starts or how to prevent it.



Osteo Arthritis is a bit simpler, it's the one where the lining of the

joints wears away.



My mum's RA didn't respond to any of the herbal stuff I threw her way:

various combinations incl salix, harpagophytum etc etc.  Glucosamine

sulphate MAY be helping her now a little.  I'd personally certainly go

for glucosamine from the earliest sign.



BTW alt.support.arthritis is the best place to go for comment.





Regs

Nick





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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: duane__c@hotmail.com

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:51:50 GMT

--------

In article <3699FDDB.1D01E07@mpinet.net>,

  cowboy <cowboy@mpinet.net> wrote:

> I saw a TV show on channel 9 in chicago about some guy who has had

phenominal results with a product called Zinaxin from Europe. It's

all natural and he's had no side effects. I decided to look into it

for my girlfriend's mom and it seems to be working really well.

the # was 800-265-1986 or email me and I'll dig up an address.

>

> j@earthlink.net wrote:

>

> > The doctor told me that I may be developing joint disease and

> > arthritis. Is there any natural help for it?

> >

> > Thanks and happy holiday!

>

> Have you heard of hemachromatosis?  It can cause those symptoms.  I was

> diagnosed with it.

>

> Michael Malone

>

>



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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:07:23 +0000

--------

> > The doctor told me that I may be developing joint disease and

> > arthritis. Is there any natural help for it?

> >

> > Thanks and happy holiday!



Try Gotu Kola.









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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:02:37 -0600

--------

Eat jello.





simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369B10CB.4F057D38@gjames.com.au>...

>> > The doctor told me that I may be developing joint disease and

>> > arthritis. Is there any natural help for it?

>> >

>> > Thanks and happy holiday!

>

>Try Gotu Kola.

>

>











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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Ann Melrose" <suncat@mindspring.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:22:42 -0500

--------



simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369B10CB.4F057D38@gjames.com.au>...

>> > The doctor told me that I may be developing joint disease and

>> > arthritis. Is there any natural help for it?

>> >

>> > Thanks and happy holiday!

>

>Try Gotu Kola.

>





A lot depends on how advanced the degeneration has become and how an

individual's body will respond.  I know people who have done well with

pineapple enzyme extract and others swear by shark's cartilage.  As for

myself (arthritis runs in my family and I have degenerative arthritis), as

long as I take Shark's Cartilage on a regular basis, I am fine.









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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: happy@daze.com

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:16:49 GMT

--------

cod liver oil is good for lubricating the joints try it for two - four

weeks and see if it helps. A friend of mine swars by eating peanut

butter help her joints.

On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:22:42 -0500, "Ann Melrose"

<suncat@mindspring.com> wrote:



>

>simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369B10CB.4F057D38@gjames.com.au>...

>>> > The doctor told me that I may be developing joint disease and

>>> > arthritis. Is there any natural help for it?

>>> >

>>> > Thanks and happy holiday!

>>

>>Try Gotu Kola.

>>

>

>

>A lot depends on how advanced the degeneration has become and how an

>individual's body will respond.  I know people who have done well with

>pineapple enzyme extract and others swear by shark's cartilage.  As for

>myself (arthritis runs in my family and I have degenerative arthritis), as

>long as I take Shark's Cartilage on a regular basis, I am fine.

>







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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Charles" <charley*nospam*@canada.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:45:36 -0400

--------

My mother swears by glucosamine sulfate.( I don't know the source of this

product but it is found in health stores.) She has the sort of arthritis

that involves deteriorating cartilage. Within two months she saw a

noticeable difference and a big decrease in the pain.



C.









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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: lionel bonnell & kirsten obrien <linkir@tallships.ca>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:48:32 GMT

--------

I thought I might be falling into a scam - but I tried the cetyl

myristoleate and it improved the arthritis about 60% (I'm going to do

another dose next year, maybe the Cdn dollar will be out of the toilet

by then..>)  The cm came with some assisting stuff including boron,

gentian root, licorice root, cat's claw, black cohosh, boswellia

tumeric, ginger, cinnamon and bromelain.  Also sulfur.  Something

worked!







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Subject: Re: Any suggestion for joints disease?

From: "Edmund M. Jakopchek" <emja@usa.net>

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 06:06:20 -0800

--------

Charles wrote:

> My mother swears by glucosamine sulfate.( I don't know the source of this

> product but it is found in health stores.) She has the sort of arthritis

> that involves deteriorating cartilage. Within two months she saw a

> noticeable difference and a big decrease in the pain.



I also swear by GS, word to the wise, a recent assay of GS sources

showed great varaitions.  Make sure your source is trustworthy.  



GS takes 4 to 6 weeks at a high dosage 1.5 to 2.5 grams per day for it

to start working, after that you can tail off a bit and still get the

benefit of GS.  You have to be patient for this to work for you.



GS is about 84% bio-available, Chondroitian Sulfate is about 15 percent

bio-available, if cost is a issue stick with the GS.



Two other suggestions for Joint support, Hydrolyzed Bovine Collagen

Peptides (HBCP) and Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM).



There is a Ayurvedic herbal mix for joint support, I have to go research

that.



I guess this is my pennance for dating a Chiropractor.



Ed J.





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Subject: Announce: Extensive herbal resources

From: Andrea Steavnovic <astevano@open.hr>

Date: 6 Jan 1999 19:17:04 GMT

--------

Dear herbalists,



After many months, I've finally redesigned and updated the

Gardens of the Blue Planet site  and would like to make it

even better, so all of your comments and contributions are

welcome, especially those pertaining to the mailing lists

collection which now counts around twenty names.



                Best regards, Andrea



---

Medicinal Herbs Resources on the NET

http://www.open.hr/space/herbs/







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Subject: Herbal Seeds

From: pmaser@usa.net (PTM)

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:30:55 GMT

--------

In searching the web I ran across a seed supplier that carries an

interesting line of Medicinal Herb Seeds:



http://www.johnnycyberseed.com/catindex.htm



Paul





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.martial-arts,rec.martial-arts

Subject: Guarana.....anyone using it everyday?

From: "rrcrumb" <rrcrumb@hotmail.com>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:37:28 GMT

--------

I find Guarana  to be a very interesting herbal stimulant.

I like it better than coffee and tea.It most definitely

has a different *upper* effect than those two.



I have only been using it for a month.I am interested

in any comments from long term daily users.

Pleas post or e-mail me

THANKS



rrc









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Subject: Re: Guarana.....anyone using it everyday?

From: Chas <gryphons@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 6 Jan 1999 21:48:21 GMT

--------

rrcrumb wrote:

> 

> I find Guarana  to be a very interesting herbal stimulant.

> I like it better than coffee and tea.It most definitely

> has a different *upper* effect than those two.

> 

> I have only been using it for a month.I am interested

> in any comments from long term daily users.



It's fucking great man- and it won't hurt you with long time use- you

know, unless you abuuse it.

I'm fine-



Chas





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Subject: Re: Guarana.....anyone using it everyday?

From: "rrcrumb" <rrcrumb@hotmail.com>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 23:44:04 GMT

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http://www.healthy.net/library/articles/hobbs/guarana3.htm



Guarana has practically the same chemical composition as coffee, and has the

same physiological actions, thus its use for mental fatigue and heat

exhaustion. In fact, some authors argue that its main component, guaranine

is simply caffeine. It contains up to 7% of guaranine or caffeine (as

compared to about 2% in coffee), with theobromine, theophylline, xanthine,

and other xanthine derivatives, as well as an appreciable amount of tannins

(approximately 12%, including d-catechin), and saponins, starch, fats,

choline, and pigments.



Guarana's appetite-suppressing qualities are due to its caffeine content,

which is also responsible for the rush of energy felt by people taking

guarana tablets (thus, the name "Zoom"). Guarana is included as an

ingredient in some weight-reducing products but should be used cautiously by

people suffering from cardiovascular disease. There are no published toxic

effects from taking guarana, but those sensitive to caffeine could expect

similar side effects from it, such as gastrointestinal and central nervous

system irritation.



zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



I like the taste of coffee but don't like the effects of the caffeine in it.

My feeling is that the active ingredient in guarana is different than the

caffeine in coffee because it is more subtle and lasting.



I  like the effect of guarana.I take two capsules in the morning

each day.So far so good



rrc







Chas wrote in message <3693D9E4.BF0ED5C2@worldnet.att.net>...

>rrcrumb wrote:

>>

>> I find Guarana  to be a very interesting herbal stimulant.

>> I like it better than coffee and tea.It most definitely

>> has a different *upper* effect than those two.

>>

>> I have only been using it for a month.I am interested

>> in any comments from long term daily users.

>

>It's fucking great man- and it won't hurt you with long time use- you

>know, unless you abuuse it.

>I'm fine-

>

>Chas









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Subject: Re: Guarana.....anyone using it everyday?

From: tellner@cs.pdx.edu (Todd D. Ellner)

Date: 6 Jan 1999 16:31:15 -0800

--------

In article <cQPk2.3415$EC3.1378115@news3.mia>,

rrcrumb <rrcrumb@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I find Guarana  to be a very interesting herbal stimulant.

>I like it better than coffee and tea.It most definitely

>has a different *upper* effect than those two.



Strange, since it is chock-full of caffeine. Oh well, maybe

it's got other stuff in it,too.

-- 

Todd Ellner        | When thou seest an eagle, thou seest a portion of genius; 

tellner@cs.pdx.edu | lift up thy head! 

(503)493-4431      |         --William Blake "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"





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Subject: smoking coltsfoot?

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:53:47 -0600

--------

How would you prepare coltsfoot in order to smoke it?  Is it the leaves

that are smoked, and do they have to be thoroughly dried first?  Has

anyone ever smoked this, and can you tell me what it is like, the taste,

the smell?  Thanks.





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Subject: Re: smoking coltsfoot?

From: Janine Blue <jblue@columbus.rr.com>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:57:15 -0500

--------

You smoke the dried leaves. It is great for bronchitis. I use to get

bronchitis all the time before I quit smoking. The best way to use it is

in a tea ball, with some chammomile tea. It tastes better that way. When

you smoke it, It tastes and smells like a campfire. Yuck!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,alt.psychoactives

Subject: Using "shamanic plants" as a "subsitute for alcohol"...

From: "Toni" <toni_berndtson@hotmail.com>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:39:06 GMT

--------

I've become interested in stuff that's related to shamanism and witchcraft,

and seeked knowledge of them.

I know that the usage of psychoactive plants or herbs was very common  for

shamans to reach trans, and now I've thought of trying some of these. For

example nutmeg, which is sayd to be one of the mildest... I need an honest

opinion concerning these plants ; how to use them, what are the

side-effects/dangers, where to get them...

I'd like to hear about your own experiences if possible !!

thanks.

Toni.berndtson@hotmail.com









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Subject: Re: Using "shamanic plants" as a "subsitute for alcohol"...

From: SABERTOOTH <sabertoothed@hotmail.comNOSPAM>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:50:27 -0800

--------

Toni wrote:

> 

> I've become interested in stuff that's related to shamanism and witchcraft,

> and seeked knowledge of them.

> I know that the usage of psychoactive plants or herbs was very common  for

> shamans to reach trans, and now I've thought of trying some of these. For

> example nutmeg, which is sayd to be one of the mildest... I need an honest

> opinion concerning these plants ; how to use them, what are the

> side-effects/dangers, where to get them...

> I'd like to hear about your own experiences if possible !!

> thanks.

> Toni.berndtson@hotmail.com



Psychoactive plants are generally not used as a substitute 

for alchohol, as few have similar effects.  As for nutmeg,

your likely to throw your guts up and feel stoned all day 

and hungover for another.  Kava Kava may be something you'd

enjoy, if you can find the real thing. 



Heres a few links that may be of interest:

http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/abstracts/L4menu.html (HUGE listing of psychoactive plants)

http://www.mj-millennium.org/herben-shaman/

http://www.ethnobotany.com/

http://www.amazing-nature.com/

http://www.madlex.com/tac/ethno.htm



Try these newsgroups, where psychoactive plants are discussed

on a daily basis:  news:alt.drugs.psychedelics

                   news:rec.drugs.psychedelic



enjoy...



-- 

                         s A B E R t O O T H







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Subject: Re: Saw Palmetto

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:28:39 -0500

--------

Saw Palmetto is good for shrinking an enlarged prostate. My father (age

78) uses it regularly with great benefit. The only negative response he

had was that it has caused his breasts to become quite large, but he

figures the trade-off is worthwile. Recent research indicates that

"lycopene" may also help reduce prostate cancer risk. "Lycopene" is most

prevalent in tomatoes when they are cooked or processed into things such

as ketchup & relish. It is also found in smaller amounts in cranberries.

Just another idea.



     Don Levell





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Subject: epilobium angustifolium

From: "Fam. Vergote" <fvgt@planetinternet.be>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:25:37 +0100

--------

anyone knows where I can find information on Epilobium angustifolium

(Fireweed) ?



Web sites, texts ...



thanks in advance,

Filip.

fvgt@planetinternet.be









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Subject: Re: epilobium angustifolium

From: hek@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:34:08 GMT

--------

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:25:37 +0100, "Fam. Vergote" <fvgt@planetinternet.be> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>anyone knows where I can find information on Epilobium angustifolium

>(Fireweed) ?



It -is- abundant. And it -is- a good antifungal and works moderately to reduce

the size of an enlarged prostate, and to help you shift from one diet to

another.



That's about the extent of it. You want to build a website on that? Go ahead.



Cheers

Henriette



--

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Subject: Re: epilobium angustifolium

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:56:59 +0000

--------

Fam. Vergote wrote:



> anyone knows where I can find information on Epilobium angustifolium

> (Fireweed) ?

>

> Web sites, texts ...

>

> thanks in advance,

> Filip.

> fvgt@planetinternet.be



Is that the same stuff that we have taking over some of our northern

beaches here in Australia. It stings crap out of you when you touch it!

If so I would like to know more about it too.





Simon.







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Subject: Re: epilobium angustifolium

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:38:41 GMT

--------

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:56:59 +0000, simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>> anyone knows where I can find information on Epilobium angustifolium

>> (Fireweed) ?

>

>Is that the same stuff that we have taking over some of our northern

>beaches here in Australia. It stings crap out of you when you touch it!

>If so I would like to know more about it too.



Fireweed has no bite whatsoever. It gets its name from its abundant flowershow,

or perhaps because it is one of the first plants in after a forest fire.



Henriette



--

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Subject: Re: epilobium angustifolium

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:34:13 +0000

--------

>

> >

> >Is that the same stuff that we have taking over some of our northern

> >beaches here in Australia. It stings crap out of you when you touch it!

> >If so I would like to know more about it too.

>

> Fireweed has no bite whatsoever. It gets its name from its abundant flowershow,

> or perhaps because it is one of the first plants in after a forest fire.

>

> Henriette

>



Yeah when I read your other post I figured that it was not the same stuff.

That is the problem with common names.



Thanks for the reply.



Simon.







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Subject: Re: epilobium angustifolium

From: "Fam. Vergote" <fvgt@planetinternet.be>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:31 +0100

--------

I found some info on the following sites :

http://www.medicinegarden.com/ne/fireweed.html

http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/forb/epiang

http://www.uoguelph.ca/bontany/evollab/inbreed.htm

http://www.nps.gov/bela/html/fireweed.htm

http://www.rook.org/earl/bwca/nature/herbs/epliobiuman.html

http://chili.rt66.com/hrbmoore/Abstracts/Epliobium-AB.txt





Fam. Vergote heeft geschreven in bericht

<770rhn$pv5$1@antwerpen.planetinternet.be>...

>anyone knows where I can find information on Epilobium angustifolium

>(Fireweed) ?

>

>Web sites, texts ...

>

>thanks in advance,

>Filip.

>fvgt@planetinternet.be

>

>









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Subject: edorphic opener type herbs

From: rhythmaka@my-dejanews.com

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:25:26 GMT

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looking for information relative to families of herbs that re-restablish



and other wise bring back to normal threshold occurance of endorphic



natural highs especially as relating to dream alpha brain wave times,



creative visualization ... and thoughts advice , direction in this arena

gladly recieved ... thanks frankie



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Subject: seven treasures

From: Curt Johnsen <cjohnsen@earthlink.net>

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:15:28 -0600

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anyone heard of seven treasures ?









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Subject: Re: seven treasures

From: jensummers@aol.com (JenSummers)

Date: 7 Jan 1999 16:02:13 GMT

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>anyone heard of seven treasures ?



I vaguely remember it as being a Chinese herbal mix.



Jennifer Summers







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Subject: Re: seven treasures

From: "cedarisle" <cedarisle@aol.com>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:10:10 -0500

--------

I know that it is prescribed a lot for men's aging problems and hair loss.

Don't know how well it works...



cedar



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-Anais Nin

JenSummers wrote in message

<19990107110213.05606.00004070@ng-ch1.aol.com>...

>>anyone heard of seven treasures ?

>

>I vaguely remember it as being a Chinese herbal mix.

>

>Jennifer Summers

>









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Subject: request for liquid herbal extracts

From: "bozo" <rgbray@on.australia.com.au>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 11:59:01 +1000

--------

Does anyone know where I can sourse liquid herbal extracts of the African

Herb : Pausinystalia Yohimbe and the Indian Herb : Tribulus.   Thanks

R.BRAY







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Kansasii mico Bacterium

From: pwalther1@aol.com (PWalther1)

Date: 07 Jan 1999 05:23:35 GMT

--------



Can anyone help us with some advice on the subject of this bacterial lung

infection. The patient presents with a depression, or hole in his lung.The

conventional cure is 12 monthes or more on antibiotics. Can anyone help out

with any alternative cures.

This patient is aprox 28 years of age, slight and desire's  a cure. He had been

told by a western practioner that he will have to take antibiotics for about 1

year.

Can anyone help me get some conclusive information.

Peter





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Subject: Re: Kansasii mico Bacterium

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:42:48 GMT

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pwalther1@aol.com (PWalther1) wrote:



>Can anyone help us with some advice on the subject of this bacterial lung

>infection. The patient presents with a depression, or hole in his lung.The

>conventional cure is 12 monthes or more on antibiotics. Can anyone help out

>with any alternative cures.

>This patient is aprox 28 years of age, slight and desire's  a cure. He had been

>told by a western practioner that he will have to take antibiotics for about 1

>year.



Peter - 

  The general class of "mycobacteria" includes tuberculosis and

leprosy ... they are slow-reproducing, have a strong cell wall

and are VERY difficult to kill off.  They have periods of

dormancy when they are not suceptible to anything - you have to

take the antibiotics for a LONG period of time to make sure you

have killed them all off.  Failure to do this usually results in

a relapse, and the second time aroud they are harder to kill. 



  Ask the doctor if the newest anti-TB drugs would be useful - I

remember readng something about it recently.  They were taken

less often or for a shorter period of time.



  If herbal medicine had anything that could handle the

mycobacteria, neither leprosy not TB (the white plague) would

have been the killers they were in the past.



  Supportive therapy - good diet, nutritional supplements, and

moderate exercise is important.  

  





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Subject: Re: Kansasii mico Bacterium

From: gleason@pacifier.com (Gleason Pace)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 04:31:30 GMT

--------

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:42:48 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

wrote:



>  If herbal medicine had anything that could handle the

>mycobacteria, neither leprosy not TB (the white plague) would

>have been the killers they were in the past.



Yah, good advice.  Don't mess with the mycobacteria. 



>

>  Supportive therapy - good diet, nutritional supplements, and

>moderate exercise is important.  

>  



Gleason



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Subject: Hot flashes and dill pickles.

From: "spooky" <tiffany@(no-spam)tfn.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:26:29 -0800

--------

I don't know who posted about dill pickles working for hot flashes...but I

told my mom about it and so  far it's worked!  I thought it was an insane

gesture, but what the heck... what ever works!



Anyway, thanks for the simple yet effective tip!!



-- spooks



Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on

your computer.











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Subject: Re: Hot flashes and dill pickles.

From: "spooky" <tiffany@(no-spam)tfn.net>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:03:10 -0800

--------

The tip was just to eat a dill pickle when you feel the oven turn on.  I

know it sounds bizare, but I'm not kidding... it's working for my mom.

Maybe it's mind over matter... but like I said "whatever works".



-- spooks



Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on

your computer.





John wrote in message <369523cc.42679521@newshost.pcug.org.au>...

>I missed that one - what was the tip?

>













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Subject: Re: Hot flashes and dill pickles.

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:35:35 -0800

--------

>>>>The tip was just to eat a dill pickle when you feel the oven turn on.  I

know it sounds bizare, but I'm not kidding... it's working for my mom.

>>>





The hard part is making sure you have that pickle available when you need

it!  I can see it now, menopausal women all carrying dill pickles like we do

water bottles!



Ingrid  (Ma Pickle)

http://www.mapickle.com











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Subject: Latin Names needed

From: Peter@gummel.franken.de (peter stohl)

Date: 07 Jan 1999 10:22:00 +0100

--------



Hi Volks



I am from Germany and therefore I have some Problems with the English  

names of the herbs. Can anybody please give me the Latin/german names of  

the following Herbs??



Saw Palmetto

Chasteberry

Scullcap

Valerian

Black Cokosh

St. Mary`s thistle

Kelp



Thank you for your help!!!!



Best Wishes



Xenia



 Please write to Lena@gummel.franken.de









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Subject: Re: Latin Names needed

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 7 Jan 1999 11:41:25 GMT

--------

On >Thu, Jan 7, 1999 04:22 EST

>Peter@gummel.franken.de (peter stohl) requested:



>Can anybody please give me the Latin/german names of  

>the following Herbs??



Well, I can try for the latin names for you :-)



>Saw Palmetto - Serenoa serrulata

>Scullcap - Scutellaria lateriflora

>Valerian - Valeriana officinalis

>Black Cokosh - Black Cohosh - Cimicifuga racemosa

>St. Mary`s thistle - Milk Thistle - Carduus marianus



>Kelp - I don't have much information on 

kelp - although my book does list Irish Moss 

as being Chondrus crispus...



There are many different varieties of kelps

and seaweeds, and I'm still hoping to hear about a recommended book on the

subject :-)



Hope this helps!



>

>Thank you for your help!!!!



Bitte schn :-)



QT***

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San Francisco Bay

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Subject: Re: Latin Names needed

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:52:25 GMT

--------

On 07 Jan 1999 10:22:00 +0100, Peter@gummel.franken.de (peter stohl) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>names of the herbs. Can anybody please give me the Latin/german names of  



>Saw Palmetto

Serenoa repens

>Chasteberry

Vitex agnus-castus

>Scullcap

Scutellaria sp.

>Valerian

Baldrian, Valeriana sp.

>Black Cohosh

Cimicifuga elata

>St. Mary`s thistle

Silybum marianum, Mariendistel

>Kelp

In german: Tang; as far as I know it can be any number of plants / algae. If any

of you guys know better please let me know.



Henriette



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Subject: Saw Palmetto also useful for women?

From: "Anna Olszewski" <Anski@bigpond.com>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 20:13:18 +1000

--------

Does anyone have any info on the therapeutic use of Saw Palmetto (serenoa)

for gynecological problems, specifically hirsuitism and polycystic ovarian

disorder (PCOD)?



I recently read a snippet in an article that mentioned it has been found to

control excessive androgen stimulation in women with such problems.



Any feedback would be appreciated.



Anski





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Subject: Need good photo of comfrey

From: pah6@cde.psu.edu (Phyllis Harbst)

Date: 7 Jan 1999 15:57:22 GMT

--------

Where can I find a nice photograph of comfrey. With detailed leaves and

flowers? I've been looking through books but alot of them are

illustrated, not photographed.



Phyllis

pah6@cde.psu.edu





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Subject: cactus cure for type2 diabetes???

From: MARCELLA <marcie@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 16:01:50 GMT

--------

Does any one know of a Mexican cactus that is used commonly in Mexico to

treat Type2 Diabetes?

Thank You, M. Graham







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Subject: Re: cactus cure for type2 diabetes???

From: pynchon@cryogen.com

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:13:07 GMT

--------

In article <3694D945.A1123AB9@worldnet.att.net>,

  MARCELLA <marcie@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Does any one know of a Mexican cactus that is used commonly in Mexico to

> treat Type2 Diabetes?



Prickly Pear fruit is supposed to help type 2 diabetes. Also, some people take

the "leaves" of the cactus in capsule form. The one study I've seen (I can't

cite the reference, however) was for the fruit.



There is a company in Arizona that sells prickly pear fruit products, but of

course I don't have any contact info for them.



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Subject: Re: cactus cure for type2 diabetes???

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 03:55:16 GMT

--------

>

>Does any one know of a Mexican cactus that is used commonly in Mexico to

>treat Type2 Diabetes?

>



Prickly pear cactus pads are used in Mexico for arthritis and diabetes. It is

known as nopal or nopales.





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Subject: re:Latin names needed

From: "Anne Delfeld" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:35:41 -0600

--------

Saw palmetto is Serenoa repens (Bartr.)Small, Palmae

Chasteberry is Vitex agnus-castus L., Verbenaceae

Skullcap is Scutellaria-various species, Lamiaceae

Valerian is Valeriana officinals L., Verbenaceae

Black cohosh is Cimicifuga racemosa (L.), Ranunculaceae

St. Mary's thistle is Silybum marianum (L.), Gaertn., Compositae

Kelp is any of a number of brown algae, Phaeophyceae

Good luck,

mamabear.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: graprao

From: hopems@mail.utexas.edu (Hope Munro Smith)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:09:58 -0400

--------





> >The name Tulsi is used in India to describe a species of basil, also

> >called "Holy Basil" (Ocimum sanctum).

> 

 Is that the same stuff that's called graprao in Thai?  I've been trying

 to find a local source thereof; if we're talking about the same plant, I'll

 try looking for it under its Indian name.



Thanks!



-Hope Munro Smith





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Subject: weird noni juice story

From: hopems@mail.utexas.edu (Hope Munro Smith)

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:14:22 -0400

--------

That post about noni juice brought to mind an

interesting story.  This past semester when I was studying in

Trinidad, a guy moved into the apartment next door.  He was always

talking to me and my friends because he'd come from

Jamaica to set up multi-level marketing of this noni juice.  After a

while, he had lots of people coming by his place to pick up marketing

kits.  Nice guy, but I think he'd been a victim of the "long con."  What's

in this stuff anyway?



-Hope Munro Smith





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Subject: Re: weird noni juice story

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:58:36 GMT

--------

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:14:22 -0400, hopems@mail.utexas.edu (Hope Munro Smith)

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>That post about noni juice brought to mind an

>interesting story.  This past semester when I was studying in

>Trinidad, a guy moved into the apartment next door.  He was always

>talking to me and my friends because he'd come from

>Jamaica to set up multi-level marketing of this noni juice.  After a

>while, he had lots of people coming by his place to pick up marketing

>kits.  Nice guy, but I think he'd been a victim of the "long con."  What's

>in this stuff anyway?



As far as I can tell, antioxidants. Which you can get, without any MLM

whatsoever, from black cherries, black currants, blackberries, blueberries,

bilberries, rowanberries ... in fact most any strongly yellow, orange, red or

purple colored fruit.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: weird noni juice story

From: "a_byron" <a_byron@yahoo.com>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:36:46 GMT

--------

I've read that noni contains an unusual form of citric acid

(hydroxy-citrate) that reduces the activity of an enzyme that converts

carbs to fats.  This may be involved in the weight loss claims, and may

affect energy metabolism in other ways.  (I don't have any personal

experience with this). 



Best wishes,  Jonathan



Hope Munro Smith <hopems@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in article

<hopems-0701991514230001@dial-73-12.ots.utexas.edu>...

> That post about noni juice brought to mind an

> interesting story.  This past semester when I was studying in

> Trinidad, a guy moved into the apartment next door.  He was always

> talking to me and my friends because he'd come from

> Jamaica to set up multi-level marketing of this noni juice.  After a

> while, he had lots of people coming by his place to pick up marketing

> kits.  Nice guy, but I think he'd been a victim of the "long con." 

What's

> in this stuff anyway?

> 

> -Hope Munro Smith

> 





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Subject: research info on herbs/remedying conditions

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 15:02:16 -0600

--------

If you would like assistance in learning about a specific herb or finding out what herbal r

remedies exist for a condition/disease, I can help. I have a background in herbs/alternative medicine and health.

I will research your topic for you....http://www.angelfire.com/ks/healthyself o





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Subject: Re: research info on herbs/remedying conditions

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:58:39 GMT

--------

On 7 Jan 1999 15:02:16 -0600, <@networksplus.net> wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>If you would like assistance in learning about a specific herb or finding out 

>what herbal remedies exist for a condition/disease, I can help. I have a 

>background in herbs/alternative medicine and health.

>I will research your topic for you....http://(snip)/ks/healthyself 



Grin. 



If you would like to learn about a specific herb or find out what herbal

remedies exist for a condition / disease just amble over to healtny.net (here:

http://www.healthy.net/Architext/AT-Completequery.html or here:

http://www.healthy.net/clinic/therapy/herbal/herbic/index.html) or perhaps to

the Medical Herbalism search pages (here: http://www.medherb.com), and enter

your queries into the search engines.



The content writers of above sites have backgrounds in herbs / alternative

medicine and health.



No need for any entrepreneurs if you just use your browser.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Vuka Vuka

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 7 Jan 1999 21:03:32 GMT

--------

>Need a RISE?

>Try Vuka Vuka!

>

>This amazing Zimbabwean impotency drug can help you.

>North American orders filled promptly, please contact our North American

>distributor at zim4u@silk.net





But how many people are looking for something to make them impotent?



Belinda











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ki plants

From: John Ginther <Artaois@concentric.net>

Date: 07 Jan 1999 13:43:29 PST

--------

I'm looking for a source to purchase Ki plants (green leaf) if anyone

knows of a source, Please let me know.

Mahalo







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Yohimbe

From: "gerryhunt" <gerryhunt@tinet.ie>

Date: 7 Jan 1999 22:16:32 GMT

--------

Has anyone any experience using this as an aphrodisiac & any side effects?

I have also heard it can be ground into powder from the original root or

bark into powder & taken as "tea". Is this so & again is it successful &

any side effects?

Thanks in anticipation.



IRL





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe

From: mul211@aol.com (Mul211)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 03:59:59 GMT

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yohimbe can make you jittery as hell. i would avoid it if you have this side

effect.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Yohimbe

From: "peter platis" <Polemistis@email.msn.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:42:55 -0500

--------



               I have heard that taking Yohimbe for more than 30 days is not

too good. After the 30 days how long of a break do you need before one

continues to take Yohimbe?





PETE









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 05:32:56 GMT

--------

Hi Pete,  I know of no reason to exercise any  break in the delivery regimen

other than this;  many people, mainly males, experience a rise in their level

of aggression as well as a rise (no pun intended) in their sexual appetite.  In

younger men, the increased incedence of unwanted erections can be an

embarrassing social phenomena.  Seems the Yohimbe stimulates testosterone

production. For older men yohimbe is effective in helping the training effect

of weight lifting and some endurance related activities (including sex),  but

the 'aggression' factor can be detrimental to some men who are 'hot-headed'. 

If you would like, I will reseach further and get back to you.  Interested?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe

From: "peter platis" <Polemistis@email.msn.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:07:02 -0500

--------



KAL103 wrote in message <19990117193424.15046.00002366@ng-fq1.aol.com>...

>You do not mention whether you found it worthwhile taking it after 30 days.





                         Probably because I have not been taking it for 30

days yet.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yohimbe

From: "Mark B. McMahon" <eremon@flash.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:56:08 GMT

--------

I have read some reports that long term use may cause liver damage





peter platis wrote:



>                I have heard that taking Yohimbe for more than 30 days is not

> too good. After the 30 days how long of a break do you need before one

> continues to take Yohimbe?

>

> PETE







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herb Robert-Thyroid Cancer

From: "Patricia Kay" <kayceram@spiderweb.com.au>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:04:47 +1100

--------

I am interested to know if anyone has had any success with the Herb Robert

(Geranium Robertainum) in the treatment of thyroid cancer.

It is Papillary Thyroid Cancer.  Has anyone had succes with any herbs  in

the treatment of this cancer.  Thank you Patricia









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: carrot tea

From: MPAcord <MPAcord@concentric.net>

Date: 07 Jan 1999 17:08:55 PST

--------

My wife recently purchased a package of carrot-top tea from an Asian

herb-seller, which is supposed to help stabilize blood sugar.  Any

information out there?

	Mike Acord





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: carrot tea

From: SABERTOOTH <sabertoothed@hotmail.comNOSPAM>

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:53:44 -0800

--------

K H Leong wrote:

> 

> According to Chinese documentation carrots are good for whooping cough,

> measles, chicken-pox and night blindness - no mention of blood sugar?



I suspect he was asking about carrot greens, not the

carrots themselevs





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: question about combining medicines

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:50:35 -0600

--------

If you're combatting, say, a fever or a cold, is it better to combine or

try several types of herbal medicines or is it better to pick one and

just stick with that one?  Are there some herbs that should not be

combined, or may have their effects weakened/neutralized if they are

combined?  How about if one kind is tried one day, a different one the

next day?  I have read that in earlier times herbalists would

essentially prepare a "cookbook" list of herbs to use together to fight

illness?  Is it still done the same way today?  Thanks.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question about combining medicines

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:19:02 +0800

--------

It depends on the pharmokinetics  of the herb/drug and its relation to the

others used.  You might find that you are displacing an effective herb with

one that has a lower efficiency but a higher affinity for the particular

receptor site.



Read up on the active herb constituents and then cross reference them with a

pharmacist or a pharmacology book to determine what can be effective and

detrimental.



J









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: question about bilberries

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:53:27 -0600

--------

I've read that bilberries are used by diabetics.  Can anyone tell me

what parts are used to make tablets, and how effective they are, and why

exactly they are used by diabetics.  (I am not diabetic; I'm only

researching- thanks).





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question about bilberries

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:36:34 -0500

--------

Kevin Gallion wrote in message <77h1va$6mt@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

>eyoll@mcia.com wrote in message <36956517.4BB4@mcia.com>...

>>I've read that bilberries are used by diabetics.  Can anyone tell me

>>what parts are used to make tablets, and how effective they are, and why

>>exactly they are used by diabetics.  (I am not diabetic; I'm only

>>researching- thanks).

>

>I found a Website that has this information and then some.  Its

>http://www.alwanrx.com  Hope you find it as useful as I have.

>





Another useless recommendation.  The site reference to bilberry concerns the

anthocyanins located in the berries, and says absolutely nothing about the

historical use of the leaves of this and other Vaccinium species for the

treatment of diabetes.



Perhaps Mr. Gallion should review our policy regarding SPAM, as this site,

despite the good information it contains, is a marketing site for a

"pharmacy".  I personally suspect that Kevin Gallion and Gary Alwan are one

and the same.



-Rich









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question about bilberries

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 03:26:24 GMT

--------

>I've read that bilberries are used by diabetics.  Can anyone tell me

>what parts are used to make tablets, and how effective they are, and why

>exactly they are used by diabetics.  (I am not diabetic; I'm only

>researching- thanks).

>



The leaves lower blood sugar. The berries are used to strengthen blood vessels

to prevent insulin damage.





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Subject: Re: Dry skin

From: coneron <coneron@cdsnet.net>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 02:45:56 -0800

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barbara - for dry skin try lanolin. stinks awful - feels wonderful! 



to make it more palatable to the nose, try the recipe for lip balm i

gleaned off a craft site about a year ago. i use it for overdry nasal

passages, my hands, my feet and my lips.



supplies:

lanolin

honey

beeswax

vaseline

camphor, wintergreen or peppermint oil (100% pure - the kind you can

ingest)

bottle you want to put it in (make sure it has a good, tight lid)

pot filled with water so it comes up to the shoulder of the bottle

hot glove and tongs

popsicle or craft stick - something you can use to stir with and throw

away

(optional) bowl of ice - can add water to aid cooling process



melt together equal parts lanolin, honey, beeswax, and vaseline using

the following method: (for the lip balm: equal parts are 1 Tbsp each -

barb, for your needs you might try 1/4 cup each) 

1. turn stove on high, place pot of water on stove, bring just to

boil, reduce heat to maintain that temperature.

2. place bottle into water, careful it doesn't tip over or get any

water in it and let it warm up for a minute. (for the lip balm, a tiny

pimento jar is perfect - baby food jars are nice too. something with a

wide enough neck for someone to get a great big finger into. barb, you

might need something that would hold about a full cup of balm that you

can fit your whole hand into comfortably).

3. put lanolin in the jar and let it melt.

4. add honey and let it melt.

5. add beeswax and let it melt.

6. add vaseline and let it melt.

7. add camphor, wintergreen or peppermint oil until it has a fairly

strong smell. (for the lip balm, only 3-4 drops is sufficient. perhaps

5-10 drops for a full cup of balm? i'm guessing here.)

8. put on the hotglove (or grab the hotpad holder), turn off the stove

and, using the tongs, remove the jar from the water. place it in the

hand with the hotglove.

9. put the tongs down, pick up the craft stick and stir the contents

*with enthusiasm* until the contents have solidified. this will take

about 5-8 minutes. if you don't stir vigorously constantly, you will

have an uneven distribution of ingredients when it begins to solidify.

you can place the jar into the ice to speed up the cooling process

considerably.

10. when your done stirring it (you'll know - it'll be obvious!!) dab

your finger into the mix on your craft stick to pick up a *tiny*

amount of it. take a sniff and rub it on your lips (this is the most

effective test ground!). trust your nose and skin. if it smells right,

you have the right amount. if it tastes right, too, you've done a

great job!

11. no biggie if your balm isn't perfect - to effect corrections

simply slip it back into the water and let it melt again.



if it still stinks of sheepfat, add more beeswax and/or honey.

if it tastes nasty, add more honey and/or beeswax.

if it's too firm, add more vaseline.

if it's too thin, add more beeswax.

if it's not deliciously smooth, add more lanolin.

if you don't get a slightly cool sensation on your lips, add more oil 



good luck with your skin!

sunni

================================





Qov wrote:

> 

> On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:05:57 -0500, Barbara <rev@bspan.net> wrote:

>   Here is a simple skin cream you can make at home.I use it  on my7yr

> daughters eczema.

> 1 Part  bees wax

> 3 parts oil ( Almond oil is good for the skin but olive oil works too)

> 1/2 portion of herbs (I use marshmallow,yarow )

> Warm your oil with the herbs till it smalls heavily of the herb.

> If your herbs are well powdered leave them in,if not strain.

> Stir in wax tell melted,take off heat and beat until a creamy

> texture forms.This cream has a long shelf life,keep in air- tight

> container.I hope this can help you.

> ``

> 

> >Hi.  Need help, please. Have developed extremely dry skin

...deleted for brevity...

> >Barbara

> >

> >





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Subject: Woodruff

From: gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:00:00 GMT

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Hi all,



I'm looking for information on Woodruff. ie, what it is, what it looks

like, tastes like and where I could find it.



Thanx.





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Subject: Re: Woodruff

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:50:30 GMT

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On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:00:00 GMT, gatesy@microsoft.org (Bernhard Tschirren)

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>I'm looking for information on Woodruff. ie, what it is, what it looks

>like, tastes like and where I could find it.



Galium odoratum. Pictures on my picture pages:

http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/pictures/pic-e-i.html



It tastes like the green jelly we always got as kids (it's Waldmeister in

German).



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Pueraria Mirifica

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:54:59 -0500

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Domenico Liguori wrote in message <368B8CE8.228D351E@flashnet.it>...

>Hi,

>Can anyone help me to find the Pueraria Mirifica or knows where can i

>buy it.

>Is a plant from North Thailand known as Kwao-Kua of the family of

>"Fabacee".

>I really need it, I'm looking for your answers.

>

>Thanks in advantage,

>

>Barbara.

>You can reach me at areseira@flashnet.it



Barbara, I've never seen the specific plant mentioned anywhere else, but

Pueraria is the genus of Kudzu, and many people down here in the old Cotton

belt would be happy for you to take it all!



Seriously, though, there are sources for both dried roots and solid

(dehydrated) extracts of Pueraria lobata available here in the U.S.  The

Chinese and Japanese have used the roots as both food and medicine for many

years.  What are you planning to use the Kwao-Kua for?



-Rich











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Subject: Re: repost: help identify herb plant

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:16:31 -0500

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ntbandit@globec.com.au wrote in message

<368ae1a3.21589959@news.globec.com.au>...

>i have this herb in my garden, i was given a snippet to plant, i think

>it is

>of the 'coleus' family, although it can smell a lot like a geranium.

>

>i have heard it called '5 spice' or 'all herb', it ahs a very

>distinctive

>aroma and they say to use it when baking veges and chicken, it smells

>a lot

>like ths mixed hebs one would buy in packets for chook stuffing.

>

>the one i have has a varigated leaf, or white edged leaf.





Whew, sorry, that's a bit too broad for me.  For one thing, the "coleus"

family (actually, coleus is in the mint family) is enormous, with many many

genera and species.  Almost half of the seasoning herbs in use are from this

one family (most of the rest are from the carrot family, Umbelliferae).  The

family Menthaceae (formerly Labiatae) includes all the sages, lavenders,

rosemary, thymes, oregano, marjoram, all the basils, lemon balm, savorys,

not to mention the many mints and horsemints (Monarda) and mountain mints

(Pycnanthemum), strictly medicinal plants like the motherworts (Leonurus)

the betonys (Stachys), pennyroyal and horehound and skullcap, and such

scented herbs as patchouli.  So there are many with distinct aromas and

flavors, and many with medicinal qualities.



On other words, could you be a bit more specific?  The fact that the leaves

are variegated is helpful but not definitive, as there are a number of color

variations among the common flavoring herbs.  How about size, shape, flower

color, size of the plant?  Are the leaves thick and succulent, by any

chance?  And which geranium does it smell like - there are probably hundreds

with aromas described as everything from rose to lemon to peppermint to fish

(yes, fish).



-Rich









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Subject: feeling the effects of herbs

From: Donna <Toy@macnet.com>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:41:10 -0800

--------

Hello,



Was wondering if anyone can tell me how soon should someone feel the

effects of herbs?



Reason I ask this question is I have a friend who will try a herb one

day and then stop using it because it don't give her the results she is

looking for. Good example is she took Ginseng as she heard it boost's

your libido. She said it made her crankier then normal after taking for

one day.







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Subject: Re: feeling the effects of herbs

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:19:18 -0500

--------

Donna-  Herbal remedies can be very effective when used to treat real

problems,  but must be used as advised.  It can take quite awhile to see the

effects, as herb remedies are natural, generally much milder, and contain

none of the man made, harsh chemical ingredients of modern Western

medicines.  I would advise your friend to be a bit more patient, and give

the herb a month or two to begin working.  Also, it is possible, as with any

medicine, that the particular remedy she is trying just doesn't work for her

individually.









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Subject: Korean Ginseng and nightmares?

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:33:04 +0000

--------

 A customer who has been using Korean Ginseng told me today that it

appears to be giving her nightmares. She started to take it for panic

attacks, insomnia and IBS (she self prescribed this, it is not the herb

I would have suggested.) She has left off the ginseng for a few days and

on taking it again suffered again from vivid dreams. She assures me that

she takes only one capsule 600mg, in the morning. She also says she is

on no conventional medication and does not drink. Although she does take

a B-complex on a regular basis.

 In the past she has tried a combination herbal formula with valerian,

passiflora and other herbs which apparently had the same effect.  She

says that she has a tendency to dream vividly anyway. 

 All I can think to suggest to her to avoid this effect is to avoid

lactic acid, and excess carbon dioxide, (adequate ventilation in room

and not over heating the room with electric heaters) whilst sleeping, as

they may increase anxiety in those prone to panic attacks but I don't

know if this would have any effect on the dreams. She was quite keen on

continuing with this herb. 

 I know that Korean Ginseng stimulates the adrenal glands and central

nervous system, and wondered if the adaptogen properties may be

affecting her sleep patterns, if its' sedative effect is extending her

deep sleep then this may account for the disturbances, as apparently

this is the stage at which night terrors occur. But I'm no expert! Any

help would be greatly appreciated!





"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Dysphagia (Swallowing difficulty)

From: "Radwan" <h.radwan@cwcom.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:06:18 -0000

--------

Hi!



I'm a newbie. I have had difficulty swallowing and haven't eaten properly

for over 6 months. I don't appear to have an eating disorder as I do have an

appetite and the desire to eat, but find swallowing difficult. By browsing

the internet I have found that such a complaint is called Dysphagia,

although in my case the cause is psychosomatic, (stress). Does any one know

any herbal remedies that could help me swallow normally again?



Best wishes



Surya Radwan













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Subject: Re: Dysphagia (Swallowing difficulty)

From: Janine Blue <jblue@columbus.rr.com>

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:11:30 -0500

--------

Try having your thyroid checked. A goiter can make swallowing difficult.

There are many symptoms of thyroid disorders. All it takes is a simple

blood test.





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Subject: Re: Dysphagia (Swallowing difficulty)

From: mul211@aol.com (Mul211)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 03:58:01 GMT

--------

i had the same thing. a barium swallow ruled out anything serious. my condition

has improved but sometimes i still can't swallow. drinking liquids 1st helps.





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Subject: Re: Dysphagia (Swallowing difficulty)

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 05:50:49 -0800

--------

You need to get this checked out by an MD, might need a video swallowing

test. A speech therapist might help.









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Subject: Smoking Hops

From: flopsie402@hotmail.com

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:14:28 GMT

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Has anyone ever tried smoking hops? If so could you please e-mail me the

results of this?





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Subject: Re: Smoking Hops

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:21:20 +0800

--------

Ha it reminds me of a friend who was studying with me at the state

agricultural biotechnology center who tried (and failed) to cross hops with

pot.  I think he still smokes the pot and drinks the hops.



J        ;p









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Subject: Re: Smoking Hops

From: "yew" <nsdeadfthr@premier1.net>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:43:03 -0800

--------

I remember an experience I had a few years ago. . .a homebrewer friend of

mine gave me a handful of hops to make tea.  I filled a tea ball with these

Eroica hops and made a cup of tea.  The resulting beverage was so bitter. .

.I swear I saw God (an angry, Old Testament God).  It was more a feeling

than a flavor.  Like being punched in the tongue.  :)



I can't imagine smoking hops would be very pleasant.



Brina



flopsie402@hotmail.com wrote in message <776002$t4e$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>Has anyone ever tried smoking hops? If so could you please e-mail me the

>results of this?

>

>

>    Thank You

>

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Subject: Re: Smoking Hops

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:27:25 -0600

--------

For what purpose did your friend give you the hops for tea? YUCK! My husband

brews beer, and I can't even tolerate the "balanced, hoppy flavor" of some

beers, let alone imagine wanting to steep the awful things in water and

drink it straight. You probably DID see God, and he was saying "Um, that's

My way of saying some things shouldn't be consumed." :)



Hilary

(still shuddering... bllleah)



yew wrote in message

>I remember an experience I had a few years ago. . .a homebrewer friend of

>mine gave me a handful of hops to make tea.  I filled a tea ball with these

>Eroica hops and made a cup of tea.  The resulting beverage was so bitter. .

>.I swear I saw God (an angry, Old Testament God).  It was more a feeling

>than a flavor.  Like being punched in the tongue.  :)

>

>I can't imagine smoking hops would be very pleasant.

>

>Brina









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Subject: herbal pesticides

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:09:28 -0500

--------

I am looking for any recipes for herbal pesticides, especially for use

against whitefly, ahpids, red spider mites.  I am an herb grower for a

commercial greenhouse in Maine, and would prefer to use organic methods to

fight infestation, instead of the toxic chemicals currently used by my

bosses.









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Subject: Re: herbal pesticides

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:34:23 -0500

--------



Thanks Jean, that would be helpful.  I have tried many recipes calling for

hot pepper, tabasco, and baking soda with few effects.  I have found some of

these recipes to be rather strange.  One even called for a CUP of rubbing

alcohol to a pint of water!  I didn't think that my plants would enjoy that

much to drink!

-beth









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Subject: Re: herbal pesticides

From: "yew" <nsdeadfthr@premier1.net>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:21:58 -0800

--------

A cup of alcohol to pint of water?  Hmmm. . .did Jerry Baker's name come up?

He's a pseudo garden guru. . .a self-proclaimed Master Gardener (despite the

fact that he doesn't have the paper to prove it).  All these things might be

overlooked if he wasn't such an obvious nutter.  He claims to advocate

organic gardening principles while spraying his lawn and garden with massive

amounts of ammonia.  Don't listen to a word this man has to say if you

genuinely care about organic gardening.



Brina



Chris+Beth Jensen wrote in message <776fae$cjv$1@news.harvard.net>...

>

>Thanks Jean, that would be helpful.  I have tried many recipes calling for

>hot pepper, tabasco, and baking soda with few effects.  I have found some

of

>these recipes to be rather strange.  One even called for a CUP of rubbing

>alcohol to a pint of water!  I didn't think that my plants would enjoy that

>much to drink!

>-beth

>

>









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Subject: Re: herbal pesticides

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:02:41 GMT

--------

"Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net> wrote:



>I am looking for any recipes for herbal pesticides, especially for use

>against whitefly, ahpids, red spider mites.  I am an herb grower for a

>commercial greenhouse in Maine, and would prefer to use organic methods to

>fight infestation, instead of the toxic chemicals currently used by my

>bosses.



Check with the Maine department of agriculture.  The usual remedy

is a spray of water with a bit of oil and a couple of drops of a

diswashing detergent.  Spray, with special attention to the

undersides of the leaves, as often as needed.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: herbal pesticides

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 07:04:40 -0800

--------



Try Safer Soap spray.  It has no pesticides and works great for whiteflies.

Available at any garden shop, in CA anyway.



Gordon



Chris+Beth Jensen wrote:



> I am looking for any recipes for herbal pesticides, especially for use

> against whitefly, ahpids, red spider mites.  I am an herb grower for a

> commercial greenhouse in Maine, and would prefer to use organic methods to

> fight infestation, instead of the toxic chemicals currently used by my

> bosses.







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Subject: Re: herbal pesticides

From: you@somehost.somedomain (DRUID@OAK)

Date: 12 Jan 99 16:51:03 GMT

--------

	If you can get your hands on it, I suggest wormwood.  I have 

yet to try this myself by everything I've read on the herb suggests 

that it would do a very good job.  There are a couple of ways to use 

this plant.



1.  Plant it in, around, or near other plants.  Bugs run away from it 

by nature, they hate the stuff.



2.  Make a strong tea from the leaves and stems and put it through a 

sprayer.  I don't see any problems with this, unless you have a HUGE 

amount, finding a pot bid enough would be the problem here.







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Subject: Re: Herbs for kids

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 01:25:28 GMT

--------

>A lot of herbs can be extracted with alcohol and maybe to strong for kids.

>If you need something for a young one take a look at

>

>http://herbsforlife.org



Or put it in a hot tea/chocolate to get rid of the alcohol.



Belinda



Must be the season for advertising





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Subject: viral  layrngitis

From: lwm1@rochester.infi.net (Leo McCarthy)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 02:38:16 GMT

--------

 Can any one help. My husband has been suffering with no voice for three 

weeks the doctor said he has a paralysed vocal cord. He went for a scope 

and xray and nothing found so they say its viral and can take months to 

return to a normal speaking voice. Any herbal suggestions or teas that 

might help. Thanks







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Subject: Re: viral  layrngitis

From: "J" <wil326@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:23:14 +0800

--------

Gargle diluted eucalyptus oil warm.

Tribal remedy is to place several eucalypti leaves in a bowl and leave in

the sun to drink a little later.



J









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Subject: Re: viral  layrngitis

From: ETxFreespirit@webtv.net (Jean)

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 07:32:31 -0600 (CST)

--------

Hi- 

You might try an echinacea tea (Echinacea purpurea or Echinacea

augustifolia). Common name purple coneflower. Supports immune system.

Something that might soothe the throat would be slippery elm - as a tea

or as a lozenge. It is said that some opera singers use slippery elm to

soothe their throats.

Good luck!  Jean





"A wise man makes his own decisions;

an ignorant man follows  public opinion."

      Chinese Proverb 

 















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Subject: Re: viral  layrngitis

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 17 Jan 1999 20:02:35 GMT

--------



Jean wrote in message <5397-36A1E66F-14@newsd-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Hi-

You might try an echinacea tea (Echinacea purpurea or Echinacea

augustifolia). Common name purple coneflower. Supports immune system.

Something that might soothe the throat would be slippery elm - as a tea

or as a lozenge. It is said that some opera singers use slippery elm to

soothe their throats.

Good luck!  Jean





Hi all,



I read somewhere recently that the elderberry has been shown to have real

effect on viral infections.   There are some products out there sold under

the name of Sambucol which are good tasting and some in a syrup form.    It

is certainly worth a try!



Good luck too.

Evelyn



















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Subject: herbs and hair loss

From: "Jeff Karson" <jskarson@email.msn.com>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:04:09 -0700

--------

Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?



Thanks. Jeff









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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 11:30:00 -0800

--------

Jeff Karson wrote:



> Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?

>

> Thanks. Jeff



Rosemary is always used in hair treatments to not only build up the

overall health of the hair, but to encourage growth, and help stop hair

loss.  Jojobe is also used to stop hair loss because it keeps the hair

roots completely clean to encourage oxidation and hair growth.



Kathleen

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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: Buckeye <Buckeye@cchat.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:09:48 -0500

--------

Black currant oil capsules taken internally  Seen it recommended on Dr.

Weil's website.  (drweil.com)



Jeff Karson wrote:



> Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?

>

> Thanks. Jeff











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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 12:55:38 GMT

--------

>Black currant oil capsules taken internally  Seen it recommended on Dr.

>Weil's website.  (drweil.com)

>

>



Black currant OIL? really?



Belinda





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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: Buckeye <Buckeye@cchat.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:21:11 -0500

--------

Was in Central America recently and my mother who lives there told me to

make rosemary infusion to apply by massaging it in the scalp after

washing the hair.  My mom said it worked for her.  Found it too

troublesome preparing the infusion (since I have a hair loss problem)

until a sister-in-law who is into aromatherapy recommended I use pure

essential rosemary oil.  A few drops in the shampoo you use should do

it.  Maybe you can ask the folks in alt.aromatherapy for some recipes.

Good luck.



Jeff Karson wrote:



> Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?

>

> Thanks. Jeff











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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: lastname@antispam.com (Suzanne)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:42:24 GMT

--------

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:21:11 -0500, Buckeye <Buckeye@cchat.com> wrote:



>Was in Central America recently and my mother who lives there told me to

>make rosemary infusion to apply by massaging it in the scalp after

>washing the hair.  My mom said it worked for her.  Found it too

>troublesome preparing the infusion (since I have a hair loss problem)

>until a sister-in-law who is into aromatherapy recommended I use pure

>essential rosemary oil.  A few drops in the shampoo you use should do

>it.  Maybe you can ask the folks in alt.aromatherapy for some recipes.

>

>Jeff Karson wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?



Will the rosemary infusion or essential oil affect hair color?  Will

it darken light-colored hair?  Or gray hair?



Suzanne

_____________________________________________________________

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do things right if they're let alone, but the strain of 

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Subject: Re: herbs and hair loss

From: greenworld@my-dejanews.com

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:05:33 GMT

--------

In article <eOmRP55O#GA.204@upnetnews03>,

  "Jeff Karson" <jskarson@email.msn.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know which herbs may help out for hair loss?

>

> Thanks. Jeff

> Yes, I do know.

There has been great results with Fo-ti a Chinese herb.   It has also

shown great promise is greying hair as well.  There is also

Biotin, it is a vitamin.     I have also known that people

who lose their hair could be short in B vitamins.   I myself

rinse my hair in rosemary tea.  It seems to stop my hair from

falling out as well as breaking off

Sarah

>





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Subject: Re: parasite prevention question

From: "Canellita" <CAN263@NoSpam.com>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 07:44:23 GMT

--------

Take the garlic every day.  It will aid in digestion and boost your

immune system.

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Subject: Re: parasite prevention question

From: bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 19:20:59 GMT

--------

>i am taking garlic, clove, and black walnut oil.... but nowhere can i

>find out how long i should do this. one week? month? ongoing? thanks to

>anyone who can help!



I would suggest you take your concoction for at least month.  

The good news is that if you actually have and Kill some of the paracites you

will eventulay heal.  the bad news is after the paricites are dead it will take

a while  for the infected area's to repair themself.  If YOU FEEL any kind of

pain or are distressed after you take your remaidy I would see a doctor as

there could be something they might be intreseted in.



Good Luck







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Subject: Re: help for high cholesterol and triglycerides?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:54:23 -0500

--------

Have you tried Flax-seed Oil, or capsules of same. It can be quite as

beneficial as fish oil.

 

     Don Levell, M.H.





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Subject: Re: help for high cholesterol and triglycerides?

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 15:27:44 GMT

--------

All the herbal supplements are no substitute for aerobic exercise! 30 minutes x

3 times a week.

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: Re: help for high cholesterol and triglycerides?

From: profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 03:13:02 GMT

--------

I've heard that oatmeal and oat bran are good for lowering cholesterol.  I've

also heard that margerine is worse for you than butter.





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Subject: Re: help for high cholesterol and triglycerides?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:46:53 -0500

--------

Oat Bran & Wheat Bran both help with the cholesterol level because they

provide fibre, but must be combined with a healthy overall diet. 

Using margarine is about the same as putting motor oil in your body. 

 

     Donald Levell, M.H.

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca

     Home Page: http://www.webspawner.com/users/wilmar





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Subject: Is Guarana Addictive? 

From: mul211@aol.com (Mul211)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 14:21:52 GMT

--------

This stuff is great! All the buzz of coffee but not the jitters. Is it bad for

you?





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Subject: Re: Is Guarana Addictive?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 18:13:18 GMT

--------

mul211@aol.com (Mul211) wrote:



>This stuff is great! All the buzz of coffee but not the jitters. Is it bad for

>you?





If you overuse it, you will crash.  This happpens when you use it

to forcibly stay energetic, wake up tired the next day and take

more to keep that "energixed" feeling.  Eventually your body will

give out and you will crash ... 





If you stop using it abruptly, you will have a caffeine

withdrawal headache for several days.

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Is Guarana Addictive? 

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 06:16:50 GMT

--------

In moderation, No.  In massive quantities, possibly yes.  Moderation is key. 

Overuse is misuse.  Check a local agricultural extension.  Want more info?  EM

me at SrfDragon@AOL Peace.





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Subject: help! I'm looking for herbs

From: "blueman72" <blueman72@netsgo.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:12:06 +0900

--------

I'm looking for some kind of herbs to plant in a garden.



What kind of herbs is good for general house garden ?



Please teach me.  Information is as many as good to me



Please refer to this.



- I live in korea so we have four season. My country is influenced a



 continental climate so the weather of spring and fall is mild but  summer



is a bit hot, rainy and humid also winter is dry season and sometimes very



cold -



Thanks,



From  kim.













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Subject: Re: help! I'm looking for herbs

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:05:43 -0500

--------

Kim, you don't say if you are looking primarily for medicinal herbs or

flavoring herbs.  There are a number of websites  to check depending on your

answer to that question, but probably the first you should try is

http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/ where there is information on both.



-Rich



blueman72 wrote in message ...

>I'm looking for some kind of herbs to plant in a garden.

>

>What kind of herbs is good for general house garden ?

>

>Please teach me.  Information is as many as good to me

>

>Please refer to this.

>

>- I live in korea so we have four season. My country is influenced a

>

> continental climate so the weather of spring and fall is mild but  summer

>

>is a bit hot, rainy and humid also winter is dry season and sometimes very

>

>cold -

>

>Thanks,

>

>From  kim.

>

>

>

>









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Subject: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: haarig@my-dejanews.com

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:01:41 GMT

--------

hi peeps!



it's nervous Hairy here, with a question about the maximum dose of kava kava i

can take at a time without endangering my health.



I have been taking tranquilizers for years. During this time period, I have

built up quite a tolerance for them (I'm talking about Valium Xanax, et al.).

Now that Kava Kava is gaining popularity, I thought I would add the stuff to

my existing drug regimen (Celexa and BuSpar). I bought the liquid variety of

Kava Kava from GNC, you know, the bottle with the dropper? Well, I was taking

the recommended amount on the bottle and not much was happening. Then I took

about 4-5 dropper squirts at a time and felt a tingling sensation in my mouth

and a bit of a euphoric feeling. But I don't want to overdo this; I read

about a woman who developed pseudo-parkinsonian side effects from Kava Kava

overdose.



Are there guidelines out there for how much Kava Kava to take and NOT to take

at a time? Is anyone out there taking megadoses of Kava Kava without

difficulty? Would love to hear from you!



Thanks so much for your kind assistance! :)



Peace,



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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: "Spam Me Not!" <Hello@How's.every.little.thing?>

Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:27:11 GMT

--------





haarig@my-dejanews.com wrote:



> hi peeps!

>

> it's nervous Hairy here, with a question about the maximum dose of kava kava i

> can take at a time without endangering my health.

>

> I have been taking tranquilizers for years. During this time period, I have

> built up quite a tolerance for them (I'm talking about Valium Xanax, et al.).

> Now that Kava Kava is gaining popularity, I thought I would add the stuff to

> my existing drug regimen (Celexa and BuSpar). I bought the liquid variety of

> Kava Kava from GNC, you know, the bottle with the dropper? Well, I was taking

> the recommended amount on the bottle and not much was happening. Then I took

> about 4-5 dropper squirts at a time and felt a tingling sensation in my mouth

> and a bit of a euphoric feeling. But I don't want to overdo this; I read

> about a woman who developed pseudo-parkinsonian side effects from Kava Kava

> overdose.

>

> Are there guidelines out there for how much Kava Kava to take and NOT to take

> at a time? Is anyone out there taking megadoses of Kava Kava without

> difficulty? Would love to hear from you!

>

> Thanks so much for your kind assistance! :)

>

> Peace,

>

> Haarig [aka Hairy] :)

>

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Hello,

I've heard that large doses of Kava can damage the liver. Also did you know that

it can take up to 3 weeks for Kava to kick in to it's full strength?

Be careful



--

Peace is the answer...

...wanna' fight about it?

-G.



... and now.... Deep thoughts... by Jack Handy.



To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music,

no choreography, and the dancers hit each other.









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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:11:57 -0800

--------

If you take a whopping dose of kava and then you can't walk you know you

took too much.









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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:06:50 GMT

--------

On 10 Jan 1999 00:27:11 GMT, "Spam Me Not!" <Hello@How's.every.little.thing?>

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>Hello,

>I've heard that large doses of Kava can damage the liver. 



Anybody have any concrete evidence for above statement? I've seen it before, but

it might just be one of those herbal legends, always repeated but never

happening.



>Also did you know that

>it can take up to 3 weeks for Kava to kick in to it's full strength?



And kava doesn't need three weeks to kick in, it's more like three minutes. If

your kava tincture doesn't work by then you haven't got kava tincture.



Of course, I might be biased, because the kava I tinctured was fresh (not dried)

30-year old taproot - fresh is better than dried, older plant is better than

young plant, and the taproot is more potent than the sideroots.



Henriette



--

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          -+- check out my picture pages - lots of changes -+-

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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:12:21 -0800

--------





"Spam Me Not!" wrote:

've heard that large doses of Kava can damage the liver. Also did you know that



> it can take up to 3 weeks for Kava to kick in to it's full strength?



You may be thinking of St. John's Wort which takes a while to become fully

effective.  Kava starts within 20 minutes or so.  Does anyone know the half-life of

it in the body?



Gordon







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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 06:01:28 GMT

--------

The 'news' of anyone having side effects from Kava Kava is like saying I got

drunk from having 5 beers.  Play it easy, play it slow and be patient for

results.  Herbs are generally without side effects, and users must have

patients to realize effective results from their use.  Herbs, thank god, don't

slam you with effect.  They take their sweet and natural time to help your body

learn to take care of itself.  More ???? IM me, I will talk with you further if

you wish.  Go with health. :-)





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Subject: Re: What is the maximum Kava Kava dose I can take?

From: "Kevin Gallion" <iis.inc@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 17:43:01 GMT

--------



I have tried several brands of KavaKava and here is what I found.  Some gave

no effect, while others were great.  A pharmacist explained to me that you

must read the labels and go for the 'guaranteed potency'.  I get mine from

http://www.alwanrx.com  though you have to send E-Mail because he doesn't

have them on his online store yet.









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Subject: What is Sabia Japonica Maxim.?

From: "Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:48:35 -0600

--------

A Chinese friend of a friend is drinking tea made from an herb labelled

with the Latin name "Sabia Japonica Maxim.". I would include the Chinese

name, but don't know how to!



It was recommended to him by a Chinese doctor as being useful for heart

and circulatory problems. Of course, he claims all his problems have

gone away since he started taking the tea.

What family of plants does this herb belong to?

What chemical components might it contain?







==========

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Horse chestnut seed extract

From: MMB <mmb@jps.net>

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:35:02 -0800

--------





Trader Joe's now has Horse Chestnut seed extract.  What is this good for?













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Subject: Re: Horse chestnut seed extract

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:44:46 +0000

--------

In article <3697BD76.CD67F5CA@jps.net>, MMB <mmb@jps.net> releases a

small spider to scrawl across the page..

>

>

>Trader Joe's now has Horse Chestnut seed extract.  What is this good for?

>

>

>

>

 Horse chestnut, rich in vitamin P which strengthens capillaries. It is

a good tonic for veins, it's anti-inflammatory properties make it

helpful for those with varicose veins as it prevents them from swelling,

and apparently prevents the capillaries from leaking and exacerbating

the condition.

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Noni toxicity (was Re: Noni - aspirin of the ancients?)

From: hopems@mail.utexas.edu (Hope Munro Smith)

Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 17:23:39 -0400

--------

In article <3697B204.79243320@munich.netsurf.de>, phmikas@aol.com wrote:



> There is a juice on the market, which is said to have tremendous

> results. It is

> derived from a plant called Noni or Nono. It grows in the pacific region

> and is

> used since thousands of years by the kahuna shamans. I've got an

> intersting

> article by M.D. Ph. D. Heinicken, University of Hawaii, to post on

> request.

> Phil



Well, I'm sure this wasn't what you were looking for,

but snooping around Deja News yielded the following.

Cheers!

      -Hope Munro Smith



Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:07:25 -0600

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Subject: NONI's toxicity

From: Informed Consumer <mcyw@NOSPAM.writeme.com>

Date: 1998/11/30

Newsgroups:

alt.med.fibromyalgia,sci.med,sci.med.diseases.als,sci.med.diseases.cancer

Background: NONI is claimed to be a miracle cure, from type I diabetes

to multiple sclerosis to metastatic cancer. Currently it is sold by MLM

(multilevel marketing methods) and each bottle of  this 1L of fruit

juice is priced at roughly $40.



This piece is from the Canadian Journal of Herbalism. Interestingly

Morinda (the company that makes the most popular brand of NONI) has

issued a totally ad hominem attack on this article, which is really

counterproductive and no doubt exacerbates the situation even more. I

experienced no effects of NONI at all (a friend gave me a bottle, and

thank God none of the toxic effects described below have shown up. Yet.)



Anecdotal claims abound, but from objective evidence that I've seen

(based on case reports again, and based on personal examination of

someone that I know - specifically whether her cyst has regressed or

atrophied after using the juice and applying it topically), it's been

disappointing.



Never underestimate the placebo effect and the power of suggestion.



Regards,

Ben



===========================================

NONI: Potentially Fatal



Some people, including myself, are recommending

abstinence from the use of noni (Morinda citrifolia,

Rubiaceae) products until several questions are resolved

with respect to potential lethality. Herbalist Nancy

Clarkson reported a case to me involving an Ontario

woman who "lost a nipple" due to topical application

of noni. At my request she forwarded an e-mail to me

which originated from Robert Smith, Prof. of Medicine

& Papa HenryAuwae Po'okela of La'au Lapa'au (Head

of Hawaiian Traditional Medicine) for the State of Ha-

waii (Queens Hospital, Office of Hawaiian Affairs),

which stated clearly that noni juice is a highly toxic

narcotic analgesic and has been linked to several deaths.



Much of the problem with respect to differentiating be-

tween noni products concerns the issue of fermenta-

tion; it appears initially that if noni juice is indeed toxic,

then its toxicity is seriously amplified by fermentation

techniques. Some noni products claim to be fresh, sup-

posedly non- fermented, and also claim to be com-

pletely non-toxic. Anecdotal claims regarding noni's

benefits are numerous, as are manufacturer's claims

regarding tests for bacterial contamination, heavy met-

als, and so on. A few years ago I personally drank

freshly squeezed noni juice straight from the blender

while visiting Maui and meetir g with Hawaiian elders

at a herbal conference, and I had discussions with the

elders and a professor from the University of Hawaii

regarding potential therapeutic uses and proposec

mechanisms of action.



Considerable excitement surrounded noni then, because

research showed the existence of a microscopic "pico-

enzyme" in noni which could potentially act therapeuti-

cally in cancers. Research was still underway to fur-

ther elucidate the nature of this ingredient and its associated

mechanisms of action, but hopes were high that

a fantastic botanical agent had been somewhat scien-

tifically validated. The freshly squeezed noni juice had

no apparent negative effect on me, indeed it had no

apparent effect whatsoever. Then I photographed the

noni fruit and leaves, waiting anxiously for future re-

search on this fascinating plant. I am as surprised as

anyone to hear such striking negative evidence regard-

ing noni's toxicity, yet in retrospect, it is no surprise

that something with sucn vast therapeutic potential may

possess at least some toxic properties. It is the claim

of lethality which is most shocking, followed by the

claim that noni is a highly addictive narcotic analgesic.



Meanwhile, the mainland North American market has

finally been penetrated with a variety of noni products,

previously held back by more stringent enforcement of

FDA and HPB regulations concerning "anti-cancer"

claims. The most common brand appears to be Tahi-

tian Noni Juice, a pre-bott!ed preparation mixed with

blueberry juice and sold through multi-level-marketing

(MLM) methods. Thus there is an unanswered ques-

tion as to the possible similarities and differences be-

tween Tanitian and Hawaiian varieties of noni, issues

concerning different methods ot preparation, shelf life

product liability, and issues concerning the proposed

rnechanisms of action therapeutically and

toxicologically. It is precisely due to the unanswered

nature of these questions that I recommend avoiding

noni.



Associated product literature for noni is strangely self-

defeating. The December 1997 newsletter of the Con-

sumer Health Organization of Canada was comprised

solely of two glowing reviews of noni by bonafide medi-

cal doctors. Mona Harrison, M.D. and Scott Gerson

M. D.  Unfortunately, both reviews contain statements

which indicate amazing oversights. Harrison postulates

that much of noni's therapeutic action is due to its "black

colour, " which she says is "very similar to the melanin

that gives colour or pigment to each one of our organs. "

She attributes noni juice's reputed effects in conditions

affecting eyesight to this pigment especially, as with

the various supposed neurological benefits. Finally, she

theorizes that this black pigment may explain the vast

array of reputed benefits to the entire body, because

"every place our body contains this pigment will be

affected by noni juice." This represents an error of tragic

proportions, and is almost comical, because noni juice

is in fact a modestly pale, somewhat fluorescent green.

The so called "black colour" evident in the above men-

tioned MLM preparation is actually dark purple, because

the product is mixed with blueberry juice, which is

clearly stated on the product label. Not surprisingly,

many of the positive claims for blueberry juice center

on the eye and brain, and are related to the pigment.

On a more positive note, Harrison also cites a study by

the University of Hawaii's Biomedical Sciences Depart-

ment which reportedly discovered that noni contains

'a naturally occurring component which activates

serotonin receptors." Still, it is premature to assume

such a component is entirely therapeutic and without

toxicity.



Gerson's review notes that noni has a history of use in

Ayurvedic medicine, where it is known as the "ach

plant," and he says his research shows the plant origi-

nates from "Polynesia, Micronesia, and the Hawaiian

Islands, where it is known as noni." He mentions the

existence of "carotenoids, bioflavonoids, and

anthraquinones as well as several other unknown sub-

stances which according to their chemical structure

appeared to be accessory activating factors. " He cites

a 1993 in vitro laboratory study from Kao University in

Yokohama, Japan which found that the anthraquinone

"damnacanthal," isolated from the noni fruit, can "re-

verse cancer cell proliferation at the gene level." Al-

though Gerson's statement that "anthraquinones have

literally been used for millennia due to their medicinal,properties" is

true, he neglects to mention that some

anthraquinones have demonstrated cytotoxicity. Allo-

pathic medicine uses isolated quinones in chemotherapy

because of this selective cytotoxicity, although it must

be understood that healthy cells can also be aftected

by this mechanism to varying degrees.



Another study mentioned briefly in Gerson's review origi-

nated in France, at the University of Metz, where it was

apparently shown that "moderate doses of noni were

measured to be about 75% effective as an equivalent

dose of morphine sulphate." While this may appear to

be supportive of noni's benefits, it must be remem-

bered that morphine sulphate is a highly addictive nar-

cotic analsesic with a variety of side effects. Indeed.

the concept of analgesia itself is more properly catego-

rized as an allopathic modality, rather than a "wholistic"

approach, because it often does not attempt to resolve

the origin(s) of the pain.



Gerson's final claim is that " noni has not been found to

be harmful at any level, nor for any health condition,"

which is not true. Author June Gutmanis, in her 1976

book Kahuna La'au Lapa'au (Island Heritage Publish-

ing) describes noni as a moderately strong purgative

with abortifacient properties, recommended for short

term use under trained care (pp. 24 & 33). Furthermore,

the most recent news from Hawaii's Queens Hospital

and the Office of the Hawaiian Affairs states emphati-

cally that "5 kahunas la'au lapa'au were in a group of

healers with Papa Auwae - all used noni; all are now

dead." More specifically, it is claimed that noni pro-

duces a state of "metabolic acidosis," and is used in

Tahiti to "bleach tapa," after which, when the tapa is

rinsed in the sea, it "kills fish and sea creatures." Many

of the supposedly toxic effects of noni are attributed to

its potential for producing metabolic acidosis, which

are vast and deadly.



The claims for noni's benefits are as comprehensive

as the claims for its toxicity. To briefly surnmarize only

a few of the reported toxicological effects, Smith states

"noni is fatal in around 90% of cancer patients,n and

"rapidly terminal in about 90% of patients with diabe-

tes," and "noni produces kidney failure, both via the

constriction of kidney blood vessels and the impaired

availability of minerals need for proper kidney function."

Regarding the toxic dose parameters, he states it "takes

perhaps 3 years before noni damage becomes appar-

ent (if only small doses of noni ingested). Even small

amounts of noni can cause damage if taken over a

long period of time. With heavy doses of noni, it can kill

in 6 months Noni ;s not flushed out of the body unless

using a la'au specifically to detoxify. With la'au, can

detoxify in 7-9 years...Noni use is often fatal. Do NOT

use noni internally or externally! ! ! " Given the wide di-

vergence of opinions as to noni's effects, it seems re-

markably evident that consumers, practitioners, re-

tailers and manufacturers should participate in at least

a temporary self-initiated avoidance of noni-products





Canadian Journal of Herbalism, Consumer WatchDog Section,

Walk Safely in Four Directions, by Roger Lewis, C.H.

















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Subject: Oscillococcinum

From: "Corina Barone" <corina.barone@gte.net>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:53:44 -0800

--------

Has anyone heard of this? My aunt said she takes it for flu symptoms,

dissolves it under her tongue.  I work for a Dr. who has never heard of it

and couldn't find it anywhere! What is it? Thanks!









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Subject: Re: Oscillococcinum

From: deldawn@aol.com (Deldawn)

Date: 9 Jan 1999 23:57:49 GMT

--------

>Has anyone heard of this? My aunt said she takes it for flu symptoms,



It's homeopathic.  You can buy it at health food stores and herb shops.





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Subject: Re: Oscillococcinum

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 01:31:27 GMT

--------

I've tried it on several occasions with varying results. What really works

against the flu  is Ribavirin!

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: Re: Oscillococcinum

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 01:37:32 GMT

--------

>What really works

>against the flu  is Ribavirin!



OK, what's Ribavirin??



Robin





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Subject: Re: Oscillococcinum

From: aris2chat@aol.com2Duchess (Aris2chat)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 03:50:29 GMT

--------



Great flu medicine if taken at the first signs of a flu.  Also very good for

the aches and muscle pains from a flair of Fibromyalgia.  Never have less then

a box in my house at any time of the year.  Made form chamomile, honey, fish

oil orange essence and other good stuff.  A homeopathic medicine used in europe

for many years with excellent results.



(\  ~  /)  Liz "Duchess" 

 ( \O/ )  Aris2chat@aol.com

   / " \  

 /       \"Angels take themselves lightly

 ~~~~~    That's why they have wing"





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Subject: Re: Oscillococcinum

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:39:57 -0800

--------

Never thought about this for fibro.  Think it has duck liver in it as well.

Very good for flu but you do need to take it at the first sign of illness.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Acerola

From: "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:32:49 +1100

--------

Would that be even higher than the Australian Billygoat Plum (Terminalia

ferdinandiana)?



This fruit has been measured at 3150 mg of Vitamin C per hundred grams (60

times that of oranges).  [ref Tim Low,  Bush Medicine,  p148].



Jose Puras wrote in message <777uk3$94k@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

>The highest known Vitamin C source in this little cherry. Grow your own.

>Visit site at

>http://www.freeyellow.com/members/jpuras/Acerola.html

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Acerola

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:18:20 GMT

--------

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:32:49 +1100, "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>Jose Puras wrote in message <777uk3$94k@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

>>The highest known Vitamin C source in this little cherry. Grow your own.

>>Visit site at

>>http://--snip--/members/jpuras/Acerola.html

>

>Would that be even higher than the Australian Billygoat Plum (Terminalia

>ferdinandiana)?

>

>This fruit has been measured at 3150 mg of Vitamin C per hundred grams (60

>times that of oranges).  [ref Tim Low,  Bush Medicine,  p148].



My "Naehrwerttabelle" says this:

Acerola, fresh:               1500 mg vit. C per 100 g

Acerola, juice:               1000

Rosehips, excluding seeds:    1500

Rosehips, fresh:              1250

Hippophae berries, fresh:      450

Hippophae berry juice:         266

Black currant berries, fresh:  189

Orange, lemon, grapefruit, fresh and fresh juice: 45-55



Seems your billygoat is up above everything else. Brrr. I wouldn't want to taste

it - the hippophae berries are so sour from their acids (including ascorbic

acid) that they are mainly used as a lemon juice concentrate.



(Concentrated acerola goes up through the roof with 17000 mg vit. C per 100 g,

but concentrates shouldn't be compared with fresh, so it's not in my above

list).



Cheers

Henriette



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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1)

Date: 10 Jan 1999 03:18:29 GMT

--------

I'd like to add that John R Lee's book "What Doctors May Not Tell You About

Menopause" describes how to build up bone density using natural progesterone. 

Also, although calcium is good for building up bone density, you may want to

consider adding magnesium to your nutritional regiman as calcium and magnesium

work together.  A mineral supplement in a liquid solution will also be

beneficial as you will be getting other minerals that your bones will need in

addition to calcium and magnesium.  





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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: cyli@visi.com

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:43:07 GMT

--------

Only marginally appropriate, but it'll probably get by without flames.



Yes, pregnant women can suffer from calcium deficiency.  The body is

designed to give the baby as much as it needs.  Pregnant women are

often prescribed (yes, even by regular doctors) calcium supplements to

help out.  Yes, it can be reversed, by taking enough calcium and other

minerals to build it back up.  Not generally necessary after pregnancy

if the mother's normal diet is sufficient in the mineral.  BTW, the

old saying of '...a tooth for a child' comes from the same tendency of

the baby to leach calcium from the mother.  Bones, teeth, wherever,

the baby is going to take what it can that it needs.



Well worth a fuss, however.  If the mother to be is not getting enough

calcium to even feed the baby, she's going to more apt to break if she

falls.  She's going to be more apt to have dental problems later in

life.  If there's not enough for the baby, it's going to start out

with lousy bones and baby teeth.  Modern US and European citizens with

good eating habits aren't as apt to suffer from this, but who all is

sure they eat a well balanced diet?  I know very few, even of child

bearing intentions (and there are still unplanned pregnancies) who do.





BTW, alcoholics (who are still drinking) are also at much greater risk

of osteoporosis.  When I had to spend a couple of days in the

neuro-ortho ward (accident), I had a hard drinking roomie.  She'd

broken herself with a fall of about one foot.  She was also on the

elderly side and from what I saw her eating, didn't have an idea in

the world of proper nutrition.  So she had 3 strikes, post-menopausal,

drinking problem, and bad diet.  I'd bet she'll be in a nursing home

in less than 5 years and stuck there for the rest of her life as a

result of an unhealing broken hip or pelvis.  







On 9 Jan 1999 00:32:04 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote:



>>Ron McLean

>

>Hmmm interesting. I was reading over the holidays that if a bone density test

>were to be performed on a pregnant woman she would have the same results as the

>menopausal woman. That makes me wonder what the fuss is about, perhaps this is

>a condition that comes and goes?

>

>Belinda

>

>PS  Is this inappropriate for this ng?



-----



I only answer my email every few months, on average.  

Patience helps.  



http://www.visi.com/~cyli





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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: cassandra.wong@gte.net

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:30:08 GMT

--------

In article <19990109221829.27429.00010718@ng02.aol.com>,

  profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1) wrote:

> I'd like to add that John R Lee's book "What Doctors May Not Tell You About

> Menopause" describes how to build up bone density using natural progesterone.



  Ah, c'mon, this has been so discredited for so long that it is almost

boring to have to refute this quack one more time. Dr Lee did inhouse

"studies" and they have never been replicated. He used -estorgen- drugs in

his phony bone "studies." His book is a crock of unscientific, uncited and

discredited theory. And he is raking in beaucoup bucks in the process with

this wacko placebo "natural" (what a joke) progesterone cremes. He could not

even pull in enough people locally for his road show in the last few months

and had to cancel it. Everyone who had heard him a few years ago and found

out his stuff was worthles were not intereseted in coming back and getting

suckered for more.



> Also, although calcium is good for building up bone density, you may want to

> consider adding magnesium to your nutritional regiman as calcium and magnesium

> work together.  A mineral supplement in a liquid solution will also be

> beneficial as you will be getting other minerals that your bones will need in

> addition to calcium and magnesium.



  Gheesh, where to you get this stuff. This is all nonsense. Are you making

money on the side trying to sell the poor women on this ng this stuff? Shame

on you if you are. Don't make living life seem to be so hard. And that no one

has ever survived anywhere else on the planet without taking all this voodoo

nonsense supplement stuff. Gheesh.



cass



>



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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: Hewitson <hewitson@iinet.net.au>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:45:42 +0800

--------

Hi, I've just joined this news group and missed the previous correspondence. I had



a hysterectomy 12 years ago followed by ovarectomy 2 years later at aged 28. I

started out on HRT for a couple of years but then got a bit twitchy about that and



resorted to herbal methods. Everything was fine for a while but then all the old

symptoms came back. I've now resorted back to HRT, much against my instincts.

'Alternative'  friends tell me that once ovaries are removed herbal remedies are

not

enough but I hate having to rely on chemical solutions - does anyone out there

have

any advice please? I've tried all the usual - dong quai, red clover, etc. etc. but

would

be grateful for your opinions - is there a non-chemical alternative??



ProfWdesk1 wrote:



> I'd like to add that John R Lee's book "What Doctors May Not Tell You About

> Menopause" describes how to build up bone density using natural progesterone.

> Also, although calcium is good for building up bone density, you may want to

> consider adding magnesium to your nutritional regiman as calcium and magnesium

> work together.  A mineral supplement in a liquid solution will also be

> beneficial as you will be getting other minerals that your bones will need in

> addition to calcium and magnesium.











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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 13:52:53 GMT

--------



Hewitson wrote in message <369B6E26.5C99A62@iinet.net.au>...

>Hi, I've just joined this news group and missed the previous

correspondence. I had

>

>a hysterectomy 12 years ago followed by ovarectomy 2 years later at aged

28. I

>started out on HRT for a couple of years but then got a bit twitchy about

that and

>

>resorted to herbal methods. Everything was fine for a while but then all

the old

>symptoms came back. I've now resorted back to HRT, much against my

instincts.

>'Alternative'  friends tell me that once ovaries are removed herbal

remedies are

>not

>enough but I hate having to rely on chemical solutions - does anyone out

there

>have

>any advice please? I've tried all the usual - dong quai, red clover, etc.

etc. but

>would

>be grateful for your opinions - is there a non-chemical alternative??





Hi,



Get a copy of Susun Weed's book on Menopause.    I think you will like her

advice very much.    Of all the menopause books I have read, and I have read

a lot of them, hers was the most informative.  She is a very wise woman.



Regards,

Evelyn









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Subject: Re: HRT, hysterectomies

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:40:27 GMT

--------

>Hewitson wrote in message <369B6E26.5C99A62@iinet.net.au>...

>>Hi, I've just joined this news group and missed the previous

>correspondence. I had

>>

>>a hysterectomy 12 years ago followed by ovarectomy 2 years later at aged

>28. I

>>started out on HRT for a couple of years but then got a bit twitchy about

>that and

>>

>>resorted to herbal methods. Everything was fine for a while but then all

>the old

>>symptoms came back. I've now resorted back to HRT, much against my

>instincts.

>>'Alternative'  friends tell me that once ovaries are removed herbal

>remedies are

>>not

>>enough but I hate having to rely on chemical solutions - does anyone out

>there

>>have

>>any advice please? I've tried all the usual - dong quai, red clover, etc.

>etc. but

>>would

>>be grateful for your opinions - is there a non-chemical alternative??

>

>

>Hi,

>

>Get a copy of Susun Weed's book on Menopause.    I think you will like her

>advice very much.    Of all the menopause books I have read, and I have read

>a lot of them, hers was the most informative.  She is a very wise woman.

>

>Regards,

>Evelyn



Susun has very down to earth sensible advice to give.



Belinda







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Subject: Toddler with "rattly" chest

From: "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:25:53 +1100

--------

My 18 month old seems to have an almost chronic "rattle" to his breathing.

The doc says it isn't asthma and that we shouldn't worry about it.  It first

appeared with a cold and the doc prescribed antibiotics to clear up the

associated infection.



Can anyone suggest herbs to shake the "rattle"?



It doesn't worry him much, he is thriving and otherwise quite healthy, but I

suspect "don't worry about it" translates to doctor speak for "I can't do

anything for it".



Thanks









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Subject: Re: Toddler with "rattly" chest

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:27:59 GMT

--------

"Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au> wrote:



>My 18 month old seems to have an almost chronic "rattle" to his breathing.

>The doc says it isn't asthma and that we shouldn't worry about it.  It first

>appeared with a cold and the doc prescribed antibiotics to clear up the

>associated infection.



How long ago was this cold?  It's common for the excess mucus and

gunk that accumulates during a cold to take several weeks to

clear out in a toddler because their bronchial tubes are so

small.  



>Can anyone suggest herbs to shake the "rattle"?



  Make sure you continue to force fluids - thinner mucus will

clear out faster.



  Echincacea will stimulate the WBC to clear out the gunk a bit

faster.



  IF you can find camphor, (usually comes in small cubes or

crystalline-looking clear substance with a pungent odor), crush a

cube into a quart of water, shake it well and leave it overnight

to settle. Use the water off the top in a humidifier and have the

child breathe the camphor-steam. IT INDUCES COUGHING!  And it

thins the mucus.  





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Toddler with "rattly" chest

From: "Jade" <only~4~jade.nospam@geocities.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:17:55 -0600

--------

My toddler had the same problem....Running the vaporizer with eucalyptis (sp) oil mixture with

water...it seemed to help quite a bit.  I could tell the difference when he didn't sleep with it

going.



Later, I found out the major problem was that he was alergic to cigarette smoke.  He would always

come home from a weekend stay with his daddy (who smokes) and be very congested.  We went through

this until my son was about two years old.



Hope that helps...

Lady Jade











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Subject: Re: Toddler with "rattly" chest

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:38:47 GMT

--------

>I don't think there is such a thing a pediatric herbology so I don't know

>what

>the dose would be but hyssop and echinacea seem to the herbs you need.

>Let me know if I've helped your.

>Good luck.   



There are two books folks with little ones might find helpful. Susun Weed's

Herbal For The Childbearing Year and Juliette de Bairacle Levy's Nature's

Children.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Toddler with "rattly" chest

From: shannon@yoga.com (Shannon Brophy)

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:10:21 GMT

--------

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:25:53 +1100, "Paul Sorenson"

<pauls@classware.com.au> wrote:



>My 18 month old seems to have an almost chronic "rattle" to his breathing.

snip

>

>Can anyone suggest herbs to shake the "rattle"?

>

>snip



For my toddler, I give him 4 to 5 drops of spilanthes tincture which

dries up colds. I give him hyssop tincture too (5-6 drops per day)

which is for a cough. I put it in a small amount of juice which he

drinks.  An Encyclopedia of Natural Healing for Children & Infants by

Mary Bove, ND

suggests hyssop, aniseseed, mullein and thyme tea for a loose cough in

a child. Use 1 tsp each dry herb per 16 oz of water. Or try a store

bought homeopathic cough syrup or an herbal one. Steam/vaporizer is a

good idea with essential oil like lavender or eucalyptus. Cut out

dairy, sugar, refined flours, and hydrogenated fats to reduce mucus in

his system. 



Shannon B.



_____________________________________________________________________

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Subject: Grn Tea Loses Antioxes

From: eternals <eternals@xnet.com>

Date: 10 Jan 1999 10:00:13 GMT

--------

According to the January '99 issue of Energy Times (pg. 56)

Gary Beecher, a US Dept. of Agriculture research chemist, found

that the nutrional punch of the tea dissipates withen an hour

after brewing.  So drinking it withen a few minutes after steeping

will yield the most antioxidants.







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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:35:52 +0000

--------

In article <8261-3696C76D-53@newsd-172.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Kennieth

Corley <msnlinc@webtv.net> releases a small spider to scrawl across the

page..

>as a supplement to sensible eating, what herbs are helpful in weight

>loss?

>

 A lot of people take herbs with diuretic properties at the start of a

diet because this gets rid of any excess water weight and gives a more

accurate idea of actual weight. There is no need to take long term, as

obviously this can have unwanted effects elsewhere in the system. I

would suggest dandelion, it's a good spring tonic, cleansing the body

after the heavier food and more sedentary lifestyle during winter

months. It detoxifies the system, eliminating toxins, wastes and

pollutants through the liver and kidneys cleansing the blood and

tissues. It is an effective diuretic with high potassium levels

replacing that lost through increased urination.

 Plus I find the taste pleasant!

  

"as dark as night

as strong as death

as sweet as love"-- 

Angelica





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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: akeeler@magma.ca

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:53:40 GMT

--------

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:05:17 -0500 (EST), msnlinc@webtv.net (Kennieth

Corley) wrote:



>as a supplement to sensible eating, what herbs are helpful in weight

>loss?

>



While technically not herbs, my mother has been using Chromium and

Garcinia Cambogia supplements to aid in weight loss.  The Chromium

bottle says that it helps to "curb food cravings and regulate fat

metabolism", while the Garcinia Cambogia says that it can "prevent

carbohydrate from being converted into fat".  She only just started so

I don't know how well they work yet.









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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: Mimion <mimion@usa.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:10:59 GMT

--------









> On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:05:17 -0500 (EST), msnlinc@webtv.net (Kennieth

> Corley) wrote:

>

> >as a supplement to sensible eating, what herbs are helpful in weight

> >loss?

> >

>







I'm new in this group - so first: Hello all together!



And the answer to your question: try Mate-Tea, it helps not to be hungry.



Greetings, Mimion







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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: juniper@home.comnospam

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:42:51 GMT

--------

Angelica wrote "dandelion is a good spring tonic......plus I find the

taste pleasant"



How do you take this? Pick leaves and eat? how many? how often?

do you make a tea? Any info would be deeply appreciated.



Thanks you so much!







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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:41:38 GMT

--------

>Angelica wrote "dandelion is a good spring tonic......plus I find the

>taste pleasant"

>

>How do you take this? Pick leaves and eat? how many? how often?

>do you make a tea? Any info would be deeply appreciated.

>

>Thanks you so much!



You can pick leaves and put in salad. You can tincture the roots. You can make

fritters out of the flowers...all good ways to get some "dandy-lion" into your

diet.



Belinda







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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:07:22 -0500

--------



LEvans1044 wrote in message

<19990113094138.26744.00000143@ng-cg1.aol.com>...

>

>You can pick leaves and put in salad. You can tincture the roots. You can

make

>fritters out of the flowers...all good ways to get some "dandy-lion" into

your

>diet.

>

>Belinda

>



Belinda, are you sure tincture is the best way to extract the roots?  I am

under the impression that some of the valuable components in dandelion roots

are carbohydrate compounds that either don't dissolve well in or are

denatured (made inactive) by alcohol.



-Rich











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Subject: Re: seeking advice for weight loss

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:44:42 -0500

--------



LEvans1044 wrote in message

<19990126085527.22198.00004342@ng-fi1.aol.com>...

>>Belinda, are you sure tincture is the best way to extract the roots?  I am

>>under the impression that some of the valuable components in dandelion

roots

>>are carbohydrate compounds that either don't dissolve well in or are

>>denatured (made inactive) by alcohol.

>>

>>-Rich

>

>Rich,

>

>I think in order to get the most out of all the minerals in dandelion you

would

>have to use vinegar or alcohol. Considering the popularity of dandelion

wine as

>an appetite stimulator, I'd have to say that alcohol shouldn't be all that

bad.

>I've eaten the roots in soup as well as the greens both raw and cooked but

the

>winter in New York doesn't leave much hope for digging or fresh greens so I

>have to settle for my put up vinegars and tinctures. Tho I do believe that

>vinegars extract the minerals better than most methods.

>

>Belinda



But is it the minerals you are primarily looking for here?  The mineral

content of a dandelion root probably doesn't differ much on a

weight-for-weight basis from that of carrot or beet or most any other

non-starchy root grown in the same soil .  The mineral content of the soil

and factors like pH and organic matter content have a drastic effect on

mineral content, so that the medicinal quality of the roots would vary

enormously depending on where and how they were grown.  IMO it is the

organic constituents, those actually made by the plant and not those

extracted from the soil, that differentiate the effect of most herbs, and

dandelion is no exception.

Also, remember the alcohol content of wines is generally around 12%

maximum - that is the most the wine yeasts are capable of making before they

are poisoned by the alcohol.  Wines like sherry and port, with higher

alcohol of around 20%, are made by adding high-proof alcohol to the wine

(generally brandy is used for this).  The relatively low alcohol content of

dandelion wine would be unlikely to produce an extract much different from

that of plain water (though of course it would keep better).  Extracting

with water and then adding alcohol to bring the percentage up to between

15-20% would provide the same sort of extract as wine, with a little better

preserving quality.  In any case, dandelion wine is made from the yellow

parts of the dandelion flowers, not from the leaves or roots, the parts

generally used medicinally.

As for vinegar, I don't understand why you think it extracts minerals

better, or which minerals.  For myself, I try to minimize my intake of

acetic acid, since I feel it taxes my liver when I use too much - and since

I would probably be taking dandelion to help my liver, it seems rather

counter-productive to have to drink vinegar to do it.



-Rich











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Subject: St. John's Wort TEA

From: "Skywriter" <brucef@waw.pdi.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:00:00 GMT

--------

I'm living in Poland and have been able to find hypericum in loose form for

making into a tea for depression.  I'm unable to find the extract.  Here,

they use hypericum as a liver tonic.  It is very inexpensive.



I'd be grateful if anyone has experience to share about the use of St.

John's Wort in tea form.  I'm aware that only the extract has been

scientifically tested for depression, but this is the best I can do right

now.



Many thanks!











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Subject: Re: St. John's Wort TEA

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:17:19 GMT

--------

>I'm living in Poland and have been able to find hypericum in loose form for

>making into a tea for depression.  I'm unable to find the extract.  Here,

>they use hypericum as a liver tonic.  It is very inexpensive.

>

>I'd be grateful if anyone has experience to share about the use of St.

>John's Wort in tea form.  I'm aware that only the extract has been

>scientifically tested for depression, but this is the best I can do right

>now.

>

>Many thanks!



It is my understanding that the tea is pretty much worthless but if that is all

you have you might let it infuse overnight rather than using it as a regular

tea. The longer brewing time might get something out of the dried plant but I

doubt it



Belinda









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Subject: Re: St. John's Wort TEA

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:51:51 GMT

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"Skywriter" <brucef@waw.pdi.net> wrote:



>grateful if anyone has experience to share about the use of St.

>John's Wort in tea form.  I'm aware that only the extract has been

>scientifically tested for depression, but this is the best I can do right

>now.



  The dried herb has a long history as an anti-melancholy

treatment (I can trace it to 1755 in my medical books).  The

extract was used in the lcinical trials because it's easier to

analyse for standardization, not because it's inherently better.



  I've had success with a two heaping tablespoons of herb in a 

pitcher of water (about 2 liters).  Let it steep in a cold place

for several days, then drink a large (250ml or so) cup a day.  

  The first symptomw will probvably be sound sleeping,then a

slowly improving mood.  It takes several weeks to take full

effect.









Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: St. John's Wort TEA

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:14:44 -0800

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Everything I've seen in the literature and been taught by multiple herb

teachers has said you need fresh plant. The tea is not very useful but if

that's all you can get it's all you can get.



Ingrid









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Subject: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: "M. Bloom/B. Bomba" <bombabloom@earthlink.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:25:12 -0600

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Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?



Thanks,

Beatrice









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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:25:04 -0500

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M. Bloom/B. Bomba wrote in message <3698F088.D6B30E61@earthlink.net>...

>Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

>

>Thanks,

>Beatrice

>



The only thing that I found was in The Herb Book by John Lust

"To strengthen weak fingernails-

Place fingernails  in small amount of warmed wheat germ oil for 3 to 4

minutes.  Wipe off oil and massage hands."



Hope this helps, I've never tried it myself

-beth

>









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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: MMB <mmb@jps.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:38:21 -0800

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Chris+Beth Jensen wrote:



> M. Bloom/B. Bomba wrote in message <3698F088.D6B30E61@earthlink.net>...

> >Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Beatrice

> >

>

> The only thing that I found was in The Herb Book by John Lust

> "To strengthen weak fingernails-

> Place fingernails  in small amount of warmed wheat germ oil for 3 to 4

> minutes.  Wipe off oil and massage hands."

>

> Hope this helps, I've never tried it myself

> -beth

>



Brewer's Yeast (the B vitamins) will help strengthen fingernails.  I

noticed this within 2 weeks of taking Brewer's Yeast.  Unfortunately I

turned out to be allergic to the stuff, or maybe couldn't tolerate it

because of candida.  Anyway, supplementing with the B's and eating whole

oats can really do the trick.







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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: Buckeye <Buckeye@cchat.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:30:23 -0500

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M. Bloom/B. Bomba wrote:



> Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

>

> Thanks,

> Beatrice



  Horsetail herb is excellent for fingernails.  However, I am not sure

about what would be the proper amount to take.







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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:18:29 GMT

--------

>> Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Beatrice

>

>  Horsetail herb is excellent for fingernails.  However, I am not sure

>about what would be the proper amount to take.

>

>



I'll second the horsetail. You might use the dried herb in a strong tea with

something else, I don't find it very tasty at all.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: knots@mint.net

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:21:10 GMT

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If memory serves me, stinging nettle, Urtica dioica, is known to strengthen

hair an bones; does this hold true for fingernails? Anyone know? Thanks.



-Rosemarie





In article <19990110201829.00853.00012031@ng-fi1.aol.com>,

  levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote:

> >> Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >> Beatrice

> >

> >  Horsetail herb is excellent for fingernails.  However, I am not sure

> >about what would be the proper amount to take.

> >

> >

>

> I'll second the horsetail. You might use the dried herb in a strong tea with

> something else, I don't find it very tasty at all.

>

> Belinda

>



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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: "Infomaui" <infomaui@mauigateway.com>

Date: 11 Jan 1999 11:25:26 GMT

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Have you heard of gelatin being great for nails and bones?

If your nails are weak there is a big chance your bones

need a little extra calcium. Be sure to check your calcium levels

if you are over 40 years old.

Keep healthy, Chris

InfoMaui



M. Bloom/B. Bomba <bombabloom@earthlink.net> wrote in article

<3698F088.D6B30E61@earthlink.net>...

> Any herbal remedies for thin, weak fingernails?

> 

> Thanks,

> Beatrice

> 

> 

> 





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: dhdonna@aol.com (DH Donna)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 06:42:57 GMT

--------

Well, Armour thyroid that I'm on seems to do phenomenal things for my once-weak

nails (now I have to CLIP them). I'd bet ginseng would help eventually... good

for about everything else. And massage with some stimulating oil like rosemary

should help... it helps grow hair in scientific studies, would think nails

would benefit too. And grab a good colloidal mineral supplement.



Although, re colloidal minerals, I keep wondering if a nice diluted dirt source

isn't the same thing... and a lot cheaper. What I do know re colloidal minerals

is my old white haired dad now has something like 90% of his new hair growth

DARK BROWN. Floored me. Mom's been giving him some of her colloidal minerals

every morning for a couple of months.





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:56:03 GMT

--------

>Well, Armour thyroid that I'm on seems to do phenomenal things for my

>once-weak

>nails (now I have to CLIP them). I'd bet ginseng would help eventually...

>good

>for about everything else. And massage with some stimulating oil like

>rosemary

>should help... it helps grow hair in scientific studies, would think nails

>would benefit too. And grab a good colloidal mineral supplement.

>

>Although, re colloidal minerals, I keep wondering if a nice diluted dirt

>source

>isn't the same thing... and a lot cheaper. What I do know re colloidal

>minerals

>is my old white haired dad now has something like 90% of his new hair growth

>DARK BROWN. Floored me. Mom's been giving him some of her colloidal minerals

>every morning for a couple of months.



I have heard that gray hair is  a sign of illness or at least poor diet.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 06:17:12 GMT

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>Silica which is found in horsetail is very good for nails, bones & hair.

>It is one of three predominant in our nails, skin and hair - the other

>two being calcium and sulfur.  it also helps with brain function, the

>immune system (thymus gland contains a concentration of silicon) and

>hardening of arteries.  It is found in food such as whole oats, barley,

>brown rice and root veggies.  Suggest if you take the horsetail five

>days on and two days off.



Horsetail also contains nicotine so I would not recommend it for anyone with

circulatory problems such as diabetes, heart disease, or Raynaud's syndrome. I

prefer diatomaceous earth which contains more silica, costs less, and does not

contain any nicotine.





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 03:00:07 GMT

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>NOTE in response to Herbassist  re: nicotine content --- 'Journal of

>Pharmacy and Pharmacology - 12:506-508,1960 -- the nicotine content is

>0.00004% -- very small amount!!!  



Nicotine levels vary in the same plants. I had a friend who drank two cups of

horsetail tea and went to sleep. She woke up in the middel of hte night ice

cold from the blood vessels in her body being constricted. I also find hrsetail

to be one of the best hemostatics I have found. So if it is not the nicotine

casuing the vasoconstriction then I would believe there is something else in

there that is vasoconstrictive.



>AS TO recommending diatomaceous earth -- which is the ground skeletons

>of small fossilized animals



Skeletal remains of diatoms,a  type of phytoplankton.



> and is generally used to control soft

>bodied garden insects 



Works by scraping the waxy coating off the insects causing them to dehydrate.

It has also been fed to farm animals to deworm them.



>I would be cautious in taking this  internally

>unless a source can be found that is made for human consumption - it

>might contain bacteria, etc which would be unsafe.



I've been taking it internally for a long time with no ill effects. I have

other friends who also take it and have no ill effects. A sfor bacterial

contamination, bacteria do not survive well on dry surfaces, and herbs are more

likely to be contaminated with some form of bacteria or fungus.



By the way I have read the silica content of horsetail is around 7-12%.

Diatomaceous earth is 80% silica. Horsetail retails around $6.00 a pound. I buy

diatomaceous earth for $10.00 for 25 pounds. Fresh horsetail is also toxic due

to it's thiaminase content. Diatomaceous earth is not harmful unless inhaled,

which can lead to silicosis if done over a period of time. As I said before

diatomaceous earth is cheaper, safer and more effective. 





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:00:09 GMT

--------

Jean wrote:

>  

>    RE: diatomaceous earth for human consumption I would be interested in

> reading information - can you direct me to some books on human

> consumption?  I know it is useful for animals (I've used it) - and also

> for insects (it works if used correctly).   In regard to cost it has

> been my experience that the least expensive

> way is not always the best way.

>  

> 

> Have a healthy day - Jean

>  



I had purchased a 50 pound bag of Diatomitus for using in the garden. 

After I had brought it home I noticed that it daid on the bag FOOD

CHEMICAL CODEX GRADE.  I spoke to a nother woman who had purchased a

bag  of this also.  She used hers for putting into her grains for

storage.  The bag says that it is Amorphous silica.  I was just

wondering if anyone else knew any more about it.  



J9





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:40:05 GMT

--------

>   RE: diatomaceous earth for human consumption I would be interested in

>reading information - can you direct me to some books on human

>consumption? 



There are several books on silica out there. There is a small one by Keating

Publishing, I believe, that recently came out. I skimmed through it and there

was a mention of the use of DE as a silica source. Some silica products on the

market are also produced from DE. The chemical compisition of DE is 80%silica,

10% metal oxides (calcium, magnesium, etc.), and 10% moisture.



I still have concerns that horsetail may contain compounds, other than

nicotine, that are vasoconstrictive after seeing what happened to my friend.

For this reason I still do not recommend it to anyone with any type of

circulatory disorder. I know DE is safe so I will stick to using it instead.



 >Even water can be toxic if you drink too

>much - but how much is too much - depends on the individual. 



Though you are not taking in to consideration  toxicity level of a substance. A

gram of vitamin C is unlikely to do any harm in anyone. So we know that vitamin

C is generally non-toxic for the average person. Though a gram of oleander is

going to kill anyone, and your body chemistry is not going to make a

difference.

Some people also smoke all their life without any serious side effects. Though

I am not going to tell someone to smoke tobacco because nicotine kills

parasites. So why would I suggest using horsetail, which can cause potential

complications in those with circulatory problems, when a safer substitute

exists?  





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Subject: Re: Anything Good For Fingernails?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:02:31 +0000

--------

HerbAssist wrote:

> 

> By the way I have read the silica content of horsetail is around 7-12%.





Nice thread guys.



Just one small point to Herbassist.  Although you can find horsetail

"extract" for sale at up to 12% silica, manufacturers (honest ones) will

tell you the herb usually doesn't contain more than 2-3% naturally bound

silica.  



For most extracts, if you want a more of one particular compound within

the herb the price can jump hugely for just a small % difference.  For

Horsetail, the price of 2-3% silica and 6% or 12% is about the same.



The discrepancy was explained to me by one extract manufacturer who

said  "silica is very cheap"...  



It is cheap and easy to spike horsetail with added silica to basically

whatever "potency" you want.  A genuine 12% silica horsetail extract is

probably possible but I can't imagine anyone would bother and it would

be far too expensive (compared to spiked).





Nick





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Subject: seeds

From: Denise Simard <simardd@cam.org>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:27:25 -0500

--------

I am looking for seeds for Kaffir Lime Tree (Citrus hystrix DC.)

Any help?



Thank you



Denise







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Subject: Re: seeds

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:37:54 GMT

--------

>simardd@cam.org wrote:

>I am looking for seeds for Kaffir Lime Tree (Citrus hystrix DC.)

>Any help?

>Thank you

That's gonna be a tough one, I think! I suggest ordering a small container

plant through a local nursery in your area.



Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: hemp oil

From: "The Cleric" <colbyeri@pilot.msu.edu>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:38:19 -0500

--------

what are the supposed benefits of supplementing hemp oil?



the cleric









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Subject: Re: hemp oil

From: "Marvin L. Zinn" <marvinlzinn@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:19:47 GMT

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Cleric,



    Hemp oil is the most perfectly balanced source of Essential Fatty 

Acids. When taken as a supplement to an otherwise good diet (that is, 

omitting all hydrogenated oils, fried foods, etc.) it will help to 

reduce weight and lower cholesterol, thereby minimizing the risk of 

many diseases including, for me, arthritis.

    

                                        marvinlzinn







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Subject: Side effects from Damiana?

From: exbeagle@webtv.net (m l)

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:39:15 -0800 (PST)

--------

Anyone know about the pros AND cons of Damana?



Mitch

exbeagle@webtv.net







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Subject: Re: Side effects from Damiana?

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 02:53:19 GMT

--------

One of the cons of taking too much Damiana is the burning desire to straddle a

broom and go flying! Or, was that one of the pros.....?  ; )

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: Re: Side effects from Damiana?

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:43:52 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



KAL103 wrote:

> 

> My own experience with damiana is that the tincture is much better than the

> tea.



Unless of course you try as one book suggested, and make "one very

strong cup of damiana tea, drinking it while smoking a pipeful."



-Val





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Subject: Information needed!

From: "Aenima&cITrUS" <leesidNOSPAM@cadvision.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:50:50 -0700

--------

Greetings:

I am requiring information on what I can do to ease a friend's pain. Tonight

my friend from Australia is moving in (he arrived last night), he is

addicted to heroin and is withdrawing from it (this is his second day). I

was wondering if that there was anything I could do to make his withdrawal

easier.



ie: EO's for some calming effects, nausea ...etc



Some herbs that I maybe able to incorporate into his food.. (when he starts

to eat). Some teas that might be good for him.



Or maybe what types of things I should help him stay away from, that might

aggravate the situation.



If anyone out there has gone through this .. a quick response would be

greatly appreciated.



Thanks



cITrUS











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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "Sheryl" <sarndt@kansascity.com>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:15:07 -0600

--------

you could probably try peppermint oil, as well as peppermint tea for the

nausea.





>ie: EO's for some calming effects, nausea ...etc

>











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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "blaise" <blaise@shadowfax.whanganui.ac.nz>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:31 +1300

--------

From my reading

try clary sage, very claming with good sedative qualities.

From my experience

foot massages with maybe 4-6 drops cedarwood (or oil of choice calming,

grounding are good), three or so heaped table spoons of salt and enough of a

base oil to turn mushy. massage into feet and wipe clean.

tarra

blaise

Aenima&cITrUS wrote in message <36994a82.0@news.cadvision.com>...

>Greetings:

>I am requiring information on what I can do to ease a friend's pain.

Tonight

>my friend from Australia is moving in (he arrived last night), he is

>addicted to heroin and is withdrawing from it (this is his second day). I

>was wondering if that there was anything I could do to make his withdrawal

>easier.

>

>ie: EO's for some calming effects, nausea ...etc

>

>Some herbs that I maybe able to incorporate into his food.. (when he starts

>to eat). Some teas that might be good for him.

>

>Or maybe what types of things I should help him stay away from, that might

>aggravate the situation.

>

>If anyone out there has gone through this .. a quick response would be

>greatly appreciated.

>

>Thanks

>

>cITrUS

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "sandybill" <slbillingsley@yahoo.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:28:03 GMT

--------

Try Chamamile Tea, Valarian Root or Catnip to calm.  Be careful, coming

out of addiction can be very dangerous - keep your eye on your friend.

--

Surf Usenet at home, on the road, and by email -- always at Talkway.

http://www.talkway.com









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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "EnzymE" <enzyme@iglou.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:55:48 -0500

--------

well I do know there is a drug one can get by prescription that sort of

replaces the loss of heroine in a less harmful way.  But even though this

drug is still addictive and people still have a hard time getting rid of

their dependance.  If you're in the US I know it's available, however I'm

not so sure about other countrys.  Take your friend to a doctor, that's

prolly the best advice I can give you.

Aenima&cITrUS wrote in message <36994a82.0@news.cadvision.com>...

>Greetings:

>I am requiring information on what I can do to ease a friend's pain.

Tonight

>my friend from Australia is moving in (he arrived last night), he is

>addicted to heroin and is withdrawing from it (this is his second day). I

>was wondering if that there was anything I could do to make his withdrawal

>easier.

>

>ie: EO's for some calming effects, nausea ...etc

>

>Some herbs that I maybe able to incorporate into his food.. (when he starts

>to eat). Some teas that might be good for him.

>

>Or maybe what types of things I should help him stay away from, that might

>aggravate the situation.

>

>If anyone out there has gone through this .. a quick response would be

>greatly appreciated.

>

>Thanks

>

>cITrUS

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "Mina Miller" <Mina_Miller@pacific.net.sg>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:17:52 +0800

--------

my mom withdrew from heroin some time ago. Unfortunately, the only thing

that we  found really did it was isolation, and waiting. Best of luck, I

know how hard it can be. Provide as much support as possible- that's really

all you can do.

Aenima&cITrUS wrote in message









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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:04:15 -0800

--------

check out this site www.rational.org/recovery  should give you should ideas

on the psychological part.



Would consider valerian, kava for sedation/calming also oats to help the

nervous system. and plenty of vitamin B









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Subject: Re: Information needed!

From: Rrringrill@rica.net

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:32:36 GMT

--------

"John" <Edward@elucas.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:



>"We have developed a non-toxic, detox procedure where we can take addicts

>off heroin or methadone with no withdrawal symptoms.  The addicts have no

>desire to return to the drug and if they do take a fix it is like injecting

>plain water."----Irwin Stone

>

>I found this--not sure how you can get it at the moment---based around

>vitamin C

>



I wish it were as easy as this makes it look. Having been addicted to

prescription narcotics and successfully having kicked them I know it

isn't going to be fun. The receptor match for narcotics is the

strongest in the human body.



As far as a cure where taking narcotics in the future is like

injecting water, I can only say it is time to look with your brain,

not your heart. It ain't going to happen. The only way this would work

would be to block the receptors. We don't know how to make something

like that and haven't found anything that will do the job. If someone

did, they would be on the cover of Newsweek, Life, and Time.



Always remember the golden rule of herbal medicine. If it sounds like

snake oil it probably is. It is claims like this that make the general

public think all herbal medicine is junk. It is particularly galling

when you realize that a vitamin C intensive program can reduce many of

the side effects. The line about "pure water" was not needed and

reduced any reasoned belief in the first part of the statement. 



Bright blessings,



Rrringrill





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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: "AltNature Online Herbal" <nature@edge.net>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:14 -0600

--------

lobelia...can be poison and cause death according to some studies. My

personal opinion is that it would make you puke first. It is generally not

one of the safer herbs and I do not think you should use it if you are not

an experienced herbalist.

Karen Shelton

AltNature Online Herbal and Photo Gallery

http://www.altnature.com.

Kennieth Corley wrote in message

<8260-3696C71A-92@newsd-172.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

are there any possible ill effects from taking liquid lobelia extract

daily? i am new to the herb world.... and the many books raise new

questions!











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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:52:14 GMT

--------

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:14 -0600, "AltNature Online Herbal" <nature@edge.net>

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>lobelia...can be poison and cause death according to some studies. My

>personal opinion is that it would make you puke first. It is generally not

>one of the safer herbs and I do not think you should use it if you are not

>an experienced herbalist.



Lobelia is perfectly safe in humans. One of the latest issues of Medical

Herbalism(1) was almost entirely dedicated to Lobelia and the Lobelia trials -

the plant was widely used in the early 1800's and the people dragging Thomson to

court over a supposed Lobelia death were trying to give a) him and b) this plant

(and that way, all plants) a bad reputation.



Very interesting reading.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:21:45 -0700

--------





Henriette Kress wrote:



> On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:14 -0600, "AltNature Online Herbal" <nature@edge.net>

> wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:

>

>

>

> Lobelia is perfectly safe in humans. One of the latest issues of Medical

> Herbalism(1) was almost entirely dedicated to Lobelia and the Lobelia trials -

> the plant was widely used in the early 1800's and the people dragging Thomson to

> court over a supposed Lobelia death were trying to give a) him and b) this plant

> (and that way, all plants) a bad reputation.

>

> Very interesting reading.

>

> Henriette

>

>



I have to disagree with your description of Lobelia as "perfectly safe."  I do

believe it can be used without harm and for some medicinal benefit but, to desribe

it as "perfectly safe" is inaccurate.  It is a potent herb and caution is advised.









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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: "Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H." <skip@netins.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:12:06 -0600

--------



In my experience, Lobelia is a safe herb.  I have used it as a tea,

tincture, capsule and even in a nebulizer on an 18 month child.  The only

time I experienced any discomfort while using Lobelia is the time I

*purposely* tried to overdose. (As a Master Herbalist I need to be informed

of all the effects of the plants that I use.)  Almost 2 ounces of tincture

later, I vomited profusely.  Nothing dangerous, just some vomit.  It didn't

last for very long and I came to the realization that it isn't possible to

hold down enough Lobelia inflata to harm you.

Respectfully, I am

Leslie Adams, M.H.









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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:50:27 +0000

--------

Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H. wrote:



> In my experience, Lobelia is a safe herb.  I have used it as a tea,

> tincture, capsule and even in a nebulizer on an 18 month child.  The only

> time I experienced any discomfort while using Lobelia is the time I

> *purposely* tried to overdose. (As a Master Herbalist I need to be informed

> of all the effects of the plants that I use.)  Almost 2 ounces of tincture

> later, I vomited profusely.  Nothing dangerous, just some vomit.  It didn't

> last for very long and I came to the realization that it isn't possible to

> hold down enough Lobelia inflata to harm you.

> Respectfully, I am

> Leslie Adams, M.H.



Is the Lobelia inflata the small garden variety. I am trying to fugure out

what type I have they seem to grow to about 12" and have blue, red or white

flowers.



Thanks



Simon.







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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:43:18 -0500

--------

simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369C7A72.5E706A15@gjames.com.au>...

>Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H. wrote:

>

>Is the Lobelia inflata the small garden variety. I am trying to fugure out

>what type I have they seem to grow to about 12" and have blue, red or white

>flowers.



No, Simon, the garden Lobelia is Lobelia erinus; the same Genus but not the

same Species.  (About like you and a brother or sister: maybe very much

alike, maybe very different, but definitely not the same).



-Rich









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:18:15 -0700

--------





Kennieth Corley wrote:



> are there any possible ill effects from taking liquid lobelia extract

> daily? i am new to the herb world.... and the many books raise new

> questions!



Lobelia is a potent herb.  If used properly it can be an effective

medicine however, it is an herb that if used to excess could cause harm.

As to it being used daily, I don't see a good reason for using this herb

in such a fashion.  Short term use for acute conditions is most

appropriate.  It is not a tonic herb.



Also, if you don't know your herbs that well, please don't take

potentially toxic herbs without some guidance from someone who does know.







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Subject: Re: lobelia question

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:38:58 -0500

--------

I would definitely NOT take lobelia on a daily basis!  It is a rather

drastic herb - very strongly expectorant and emetic - and will almost

certainly unbalance the system if used too often.



If I may ask, why would you want to take it daily anyhow?  Most of the

conditions for which it is recommended are acute in nature, not chronic.



-Rich



Kennieth Corley wrote in message

<8260-3696C71A-92@newsd-172.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

are there any possible ill effects from taking liquid lobelia extract

daily? i am new to the herb world.... and the many books raise new

questions!











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Subject: PYRETHRUM or FEVERFEW

From: "Augusto OLALDE" <aolalde@wanadoo.fr>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:27:19 +0100

--------

Hello,



I am wondering if someone has information on this natural product : plant of

origine, composition, producers, applications, prices...



If yes, please send to me, it will be very nice from you.





If seems that some of the origine plants are Chrysantemum cinerariaefolium

(Phyretrum cinerariaefolium) and Chrysantemum coccineum.



It is use as "green insecticide power"



Augusto

aolalde@wanadoo.fr



























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Subject: Re: PYRETHRUM or FEVERFEW

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:34:55 GMT

--------

"Augusto OLALDE" <aolalde@wanadoo.fr> wrote:



>If seems that some of the origine plants are Chrysantemum cinerariaefolium

>(Phyretrum cinerariaefolium) and Chrysantemum coccineum.

>

>It is use as "green insecticide power"



Augusto - 

  Pyrethrum is NOT the same as Feverfew.



One is mostly used as an insecticide, the other is useless as an

insecticide, but used for migraine headaches.



Pyrethrum = Chrysanthemum coccinium





Feverfew = Chrysanthemum parthenium



Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: PYRETHRUM or FEVERFEW

From: "Tony Masefield" <tony@intekom.co.za>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:42:36 +0200

--------

Pyrethrums are available from Kenya. Suggest you contact their trade

embassy. It's big business for them. They're produced from Chrysanthemums as

stated. In actual fact there are six active "Pyrethroids" occurring in two

groupings. They can be easily separated and identified by Gas Chromatograph.

They're generally used in "non-toxic" contact and surface insecticides.

However a synergist is sometimes also used in combination with pyrethrin

which is not so environmentally friendly!









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Subject: Re: PYRETHRUM or FEVERFEW

From: Mike Hagen <mhagen@olympus.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:52:34 -0800

--------

Also tanzania.  When I was working there in the 70's a rhino wandered into a

field of pyrethrum, grazed contentedly, assumed the horizontal position and

dozed off for the rest of the day, keeping everybody out of the area.  It may

just have been a really slow hot day ...

Mike H



Tony Masefield wrote:

> 

> Pyrethrums are available from Kenya. Suggest you contact their trade

> embassy. It's big business for them. They're produced from Chrysanthemums as

> stated. In actual fact there are six active "Pyrethroids" occurring in two

> groupings. They can be easily separated and identified by Gas Chromatograph.

> They're generally used in "non-toxic" contact and surface insecticides.

> However a synergist is sometimes also used in combination with pyrethrin

> which is not so environmentally friendly!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: dcoda@my-dejanews.com

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:55:56 GMT

--------

Hi, I have a friend who was in a few car accidents and as a result of

repeated traumas & damage to spine she has terrible muscles spasms in her

back and legs. The only thing she has found to stop them is smoking cannabis.

Since it's illegal her medication endangers her and we are looking for

alternatives. I've suggested lobelia and she is experimenting with 10 drops

extract at signs of trouble, may need higher dose but will increase

gradually. But should lobelia fail, what else could she try? (we do massage

area with peppermint oil)



\thanks for your help.



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Subject: Re: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: rmclean@pop.service.ohio-state.edu (Ron McLean)

Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:25:17 GMT

--------

In article <77d6ub$ogs$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dcoda@my-dejanews.com wrote:



> Hi, I have a friend who was in a few car accidents and as a result of

> repeated traumas & damage to spine she has terrible muscles spasms in her

> back and legs. The only thing she has found to stop them is smoking cannabis.

> Since it's illegal her medication endangers her and we are looking for

> alternatives. I've suggested lobelia and she is experimenting with 10 drops

> extract at signs of trouble, may need higher dose but will increase

> gradually. But should lobelia fail, what else could she try? (we do massage

> area with peppermint oil)

> 

> \thanks for your help.

> 

> D'Coda

> 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

...Just a suggestion but one remedy that will reduce pain for muscles and

joints is to massage the affected area with castor oil. To enhance the effect

take a warm bath to open up your pores then rub castor oil into your sore

muscles or joints. Usually two applications a day for a week will improve

your condition.



The success of this varies from person to person. Some people notice

immediate relief while others claim they feel better but still notice the pain.



Personally speaking this has been effective at reducing about 75% of the

bursitis pain in my shoulder.



Ron McLean





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: MMB <mmb@jps.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:36:26 -0800

--------





dcoda@my-dejanews.com wrote:



> Hi, I have a friend who was in a few car accidents and as a result of

> repeated traumas & damage to spine she has terrible muscles spasms in her

> back and legs. The only thing she has found to stop them is smoking cannabis.

> Since it's illegal her medication endangers her and we are looking for

> alternatives. I've suggested lobelia and she is experimenting with 10 drops

> extract at signs of trouble, may need higher dose but will increase

> gradually. But should lobelia fail, what else could she try? (we do massage

> area with peppermint oil)

>

> \thanks for your help.

>

> D'Coda



If you live near a Trader Joe's, they have a Valerian extract that is really

quite powerful.  3 tabs really help relieve the spasticity I have from MS - I was

surprised how effective this is and how cheap.  They cost about 5 cents a tab and

the effects last 4-6 hours.



Unfortunately, for me at least, I find that I get a slight nausea from these

pills, don't know why.  I find them more effective on an empty stomach, but you

can experiment and try.







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Subject: Re: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:55 -0800

--------

You can also try massage with St John's Wort oil. Try kava and valerian as

well.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: search5@my-dejanews.com

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:34:58 GMT

--------

I have experienced a little muscle spasm in my leg usually after over use and

in conjunction with not drinking enough liquids throughout the day.  The

situation described below sounds more serious but I offer this information

for your consideration. I have found that relaxing in a hot tub of water to

which 30 drops of lavender essential oil has been added has helped as relief

after the fact and also as prevention before the onset of pain. You might

also try making a rubbing oil by adding the lavender essential oil to a

massage oil. Good luck. -Rosemarie





In article <77d6ub$ogs$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

  dcoda@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> Hi, I have a friend who was in a few car accidents and as a result of

> repeated traumas & damage to spine she has terrible muscles spasms in her

> back and legs. The only thing she has found to stop them is smoking cannabis.

> Since it's illegal her medication endangers her and we are looking for

> alternatives. I've suggested lobelia and she is experimenting with 10 drops

> extract at signs of trouble, may need higher dose but will increase

> gradually. But should lobelia fail, what else could she try? (we do massage

> area with peppermint oil)

>

> \thanks for your help.

>

> D'Coda

>

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Subject: Re: Help needed for muscle spasms

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:57:50 -0500

--------

Kava (recommended elsewhere) may actually increase muscle spasms according

to one source I ran into.  Valerian is primarily a sedative in effect and

may not relax the muscles directly.  You might want to try Skullcap and/or

Passion Flower; both have some antispasmodic properties.



Also, increase the electrolyte intake, especially if you follow the advice

to increase water intake.  Additional magnesium, calcium and potassium may

be helpful, though if the spasms are a direct result of nerve damage or

restricted blood flow they may not be completely effective.  Mild exercise

(emphasis on MILD) should begin as soon as you get the doctors OK - this

will help rebuild muscle tissue and increase circulation, which will fix

many types of spasm.



You do not make clear how badly the spine was damaged, so it is difficult to

go beyond simple recommendations.  If the spinal cord itself was not damaged

and there are no broken bones to contend with, it may be time to check into

physical therapy, massage therapy, acupuncture and/or chiropractic.  The

spasms can be from a variety of sources - misalignment of the spine or ribs

can cause muscles to work too hard trying to correct the situation, or

nerves to be effected by physical pressure or restricted circulation,

leading to spasm.  Scar tissue around the blood and nerve supply to the

muscles can also result ultimately in spasm; then you may want to

concentrate more on massage with healing oils.  The proper approach depends

on the cause.



You may even have to try pharmaceuticals for a while until the condition

improves.  There are a number of good prescription muscle relaxers available

for temporary use for contractions too strong for the herbs to control.  You

may want to check with the pharmacy newsgroup for suggestions.  Remember

that the more information you have the better able you will be to make good

decisions.



-Rich



dcoda@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <77d6ub$ogs$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>Hi, I have a friend who was in a few car accidents and as a result of

>repeated traumas & damage to spine she has terrible muscles spasms in her

>back and legs. The only thing she has found to stop them is smoking

cannabis.

>Since it's illegal her medication endangers her and we are looking for

>alternatives. I've suggested lobelia and she is experimenting with 10 drops

>extract at signs of trouble, may need higher dose but will increase

>gradually. But should lobelia fail, what else could she try? (we do massage

>area with peppermint oil)

>

>\thanks for your help.

>

>D'Coda

>

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Subject: Re: strange rash

From: cowboy <cowboy@mpinet.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:36:27 -0500

--------

Michael



I had a rash on my hands for 13 years and couldn't find out what was the

cause.  Dermatologists finally gave up.  It wasn't untill I was diagnosed

with hemochromatosis that I learned that the small blisters were from iron

overload in my body.  Not sure if this might apply to your wife, but, it was

quite important to me to find out.



Michael Malone

Orlando, Florida



michael brown wrote:



> My wife is a teacher and you all know how many ailments are brought into

> a school room by all the kids.....

>

> She is exposed to LOTS of stuff and has a pretty good immune system, I

> think, because she rarely gets sick.

>

> Anyway, last week, she came noticed a strange rash, and began searching

> for the reason. We checked the laundry detergent, bath soap, and all

> that other stuff. Nothing was different... we were baffled.  I have just

> a few spots of it now, sorta like poison ivy on me, but much thicker on

> her.

>

> Talking to some students about it, they reported that they had it too

> and had been to a doctor. The Doc says its a virus and recommends

> benedryl and hydrocortizone.  Those work ok.

>

> We are just curious if anyone else has anything like this.  We

> discounted fifth disease, itch, and all that other stuff.  This is

> wierd!

>

> season's greetings!

>

> --

> regards,

> >>>> NOTE: REMOVE THE TIREDOFSPAM IN THE RETURN ADDRESS TO REPLY! <<<<

> michael brown

> mbrownTIREDOFSPAM@kih.net







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Subject: Re: strange rash

From: michael brown <mbrown@kih.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:06:01 -0500

--------

Michael Malone wrote:

> 

> Michael it's great that the rash is gone.  Mine would last for a week or two and

> it would only appear once a year.

> 

> Glad it's gone !!

> 

> Michael Malone



Well, this rash was all over the body, not just located in certain

parts. It would begin as a welt, kinda like a mosquito bite, and itch

like crazy for a while. Then you would look down and see a small red

place that would soon turn into a small sore. It would itch for a couple

of days then fade away.....



sometimes in patches, sometimes singly.... appeared to be randomly

located. Have NO idea what it was except the Doctor says it was a virus

of some sort.....



All I know...



seeya!



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Subject: Re: strange rash

From: Michael Malone <cowboy@mpinet.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:54:43 -0500

--------

Michael



I'm a Microbiologist in drinking water and have found that if a water heater begins to

break down inside it can loose fiberglass to the hot water.  If someone takes a shower

or bath the glass can inbed itself into the pores of the skin and cause the same type

of rash !  The way to test this is to filter out a gallon of hot water and observe

under a microscope or large magnifying glass to see if there are scarlet red, cobalt

blue and white dyed shreads.  The companies place these "indicator" colors in the

fiberglass to help determine when a tank begins to go bad.



If the rest of the family didn't have the problem it's probably not the case, but, fyi

!!



Michael Malone



michael brown wrote:



> Michael Malone wrote:

> >

> > Michael it's great that the rash is gone.  Mine would last for a week or two and

> > it would only appear once a year.

> >

> > Glad it's gone !!

> >

> > Michael Malone

>

> Well, this rash was all over the body, not just located in certain

> parts. It would begin as a welt, kinda like a mosquito bite, and itch

> like crazy for a while. Then you would look down and see a small red

> place that would soon turn into a small sore. It would itch for a couple

> of days then fade away.....

>

> sometimes in patches, sometimes singly.... appeared to be randomly

> located. Have NO idea what it was except the Doctor says it was a virus

> of some sort.....

>

> All I know...

>

> seeya!

>

> --

> regards,

> >>>> NOTE: REMOVE THE TIREDOFSPAM IN THE RETURN ADDRESS TO REPLY! <<<<

> michael brown

> mbrownTIREDOFSPAM@kih.net







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Subject: some medics a hoot!

From: "Gerald Smith" <jsmith@en.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:38:09 -0500

--------

In "Peoples Pharmacy" column by Joe and Teresa  Graedon (1-11-99 Cleveland

Plain Dealer) a lady said her daughter saw her doctor about sudden sharp

chest pains and heart palpitations and the doc said her symptoms might be

caused by sudden withdrawal from the St. John's wort she had stopped six

weeks earlier. Six weeks earlier!

I think some physicians are so prejudiced against herbs that they blame them

for almost everything with the least little "excuse" What do all of you

think?    In good health (through herbs), Jerry



Check out my herbal web site if you wish www.snst.com

( I warn you it is a commercial site although I think I have some

interesting and useful

information available there)









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Subject: Re: some medics a hoot!

From: gleason@pacifier.com (Gleason Pace)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:58:54 GMT

--------

On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:38:09 -0500, "Gerald Smith" <jsmith@en.com>

wrote:



>In "Peoples Pharmacy" column by Joe and Teresa  Graedon (1-11-99 Cleveland

>Plain Dealer) a lady said her daughter saw her doctor about sudden sharp

>chest pains and heart palpitations and the doc said her symptoms might be

>caused by sudden withdrawal from the St. John's wort she had stopped six

>weeks earlier. Six weeks earlier!

>I think some physicians are so prejudiced against herbs that they blame them

>for almost everything with the least little "excuse" What do all of you

>think?    In good health (through herbs), Jerry

>



Well, he couldn't very well say that he didn't know, could he?



Gleason



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Subject: Can tinctures be diluted in juice instead of water?

From: "CJSNet" <Chris1@earthling.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:44:09 -0000

--------

It says on the bottle to dilute Agnus Castus in water, but it is nicer in

juice or even cola.  But will this hinder its performance at all?



If it will, and you recommend I take it in water, surely if I have it in

water, followed by juice this will also hinder it?



If so, how long after taking it should I wait before drinking (or eating?)

something else?



Many thanks in advance!

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Subject: Re: Can tinctures be diluted in juice instead of water?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:09:45 -0800

--------

You can certainly dilute tinctures in juice instead of water.









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Subject: Re: Can tinctures be diluted in juice instead of water?

From: diana cascioli <raven@gwu.edu>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:29:22 -0400

--------

CJSNet wrote:

> 

> It says on the bottle to dilute Agnus Castus in water, but it is nicer in

> juice or even cola.  But will this hinder its performance at all?

> 

> If it will, and you recommend I take it in water, surely if I have it in

> water, followed by juice this will also hinder it?



i've always taken my tinctures in juices or teas, mostly to mask the

taste *ugh*. I've never heard that this was unacceptable.



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Subject: Wild Oregano Oil

From: "Larry" <acbcomp@micron.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:41:18 -0800

--------

Recently I heard about the impressive effects of Oregano as a healing herb,

after listening to a program where Dr. Cass Igram was the guest speaker, he

is a physician, educator and author of over 10 books, including his latest,

'The Cure is in The Cupboard Recommends the use of  Oregano for Fighting

yeast, fungus (skin and blood-born) Knocking out allergies, hay fever and

sinusitis And stopping infections (cold and flu).

I went searching on the net for information, and sources for the herb,  It

was interesting, educating, and opened a lot of possibilities, but the one

thing you cannot get from websites is the opinions of those who have used

it.  I would be interested in the opinions of those familiar with it.  I

also understand that Marjoram also has some of the same components though

not as strong, I would love to hear from you on this if you have experience,

knowledge, or source info to share.

Thanks











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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:34:59 -0500

--------

It is expensive and smells and tastes terrible, but works great! Oregamax

capsules are not quite as strong, but more palitable(it is also expensive).

In other words, try the oil first.If you can not stand it, the get the Oregamax

capsules.For colds and flu, I suggest you also use  Sambucol, which is an

extract of elderberry. It is quite effective. I also find that Capiscum

(cayenne pepper) is great for sinus problems. You could even find

a Chinese restaurant that makes a strong hot and sour soup, or you

could just swallow some capiscum capsules.



Larry wrote:



> Recently I heard about the impressive effects of Oregano as a healing herb,

> after listening to a program where Dr. Cass Igram was the guest speaker, he

> is a physician, educator and author of over 10 books, including his latest,

> 'The Cure is in The Cupboard Recommends the use of  Oregano for Fighting

> yeast, fungus (skin and blood-born) Knocking out allergies, hay fever and

> sinusitis And stopping infections (cold and flu).

> I went searching on the net for information, and sources for the herb,  It

> was interesting, educating, and opened a lot of possibilities, but the one

> thing you cannot get from websites is the opinions of those who have used

> it.  I would be interested in the opinions of those familiar with it.  I

> also understand that Marjoram also has some of the same components though

> not as strong, I would love to hear from you on this if you have experience,

> knowledge, or source info to share.

> Thanks











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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:49:26 GMT

--------

Larry wrote: 

  I would be interested in the opinions of those familiar with it.  I

> also understand that Marjoram also has some of the same components though

> not as strong, I would love to hear from you on this if you have experience,

> knowledge, or source info to share.

> Thanks



If you love pizza you will love the oil (the first time I used it my

husband went looking for the pizza).  My husband and children love to

put it on thier salads and brush their teeth with it.  The first few

times brushing with it is difficult  because it did burn the mouth and

lips.  After a few days it stopped.  I love how fresh my mouth feels

after using it.  It is expensive but well worth the cost.  Just make

sure it is out of the hands of children.  We lost two bottles do the

them dropping or spilling them.



J9





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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:32:58 -0600

--------

There are half a dozen different species that are sold as Oregano. Which one

do you mean? You have to be really careful about using common  names - and

sometimes people assign botanical names to the wrong plants, so watch out

for false science too!









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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: "Marvin L. Zinn" <marvinlzinn@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:19:48 GMT

--------

Larry,



In article <FLxm2.493$mm5.159@skin01.micron.net>, Larry wrote:

> I would be interested in the opinions of those familiar with it.

>

    After hearing a similar broadcast, I began experimenting with Oil 

of Oregano about eight months ago. (This is based on the oil, not the 

Oregamax capsules about which I also take, but am undecided at this 

point.) Here are my observations:

    

    1.  It is definitely anti-viral as claimed. I have had several 

small warts removed by this oil. It takes two to four weeks, though, 

including at least a week after they seemed to be gone to prevent them 

returning.

    

    2. Colds are much milder and shorter, but it doesn't entirely 

eliminate them. (I take the oil orally - carefully, it'll gag you! - 

when exposed to crowds or other places where I suspect unusual risk, 

and whenever I feel a little stuffy.)

    

    3. It should not be used where dry skin is a problem as it seems to 

contribute to dryness. Also, be VERY cautious about keeping it away 

from eyes and sensitive areas. However, it does not burn open wounds - 

at least for me, so it _might_ be a good disinfectant.

    

    4. I use it to wash questionable fresh foods in foreign countries, 

but since I have never gotten sick from this kind of thing anyway, I 

can't say whether it helps or not. In any event, I prefer it to iodine 

or chlorine.

    

    I am still experimenting. I don't believe it is nearly as good as 

the book says, but I plan to keep using it, even at the expensive price 

of $30 for less than a half ounce. Usually a very small amount is all 

that is needed. I use about a bottle a month.

    

    I too would like to know of others' experiences.

    

                                                marvinlzinn

                                                

    







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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: harouffd@top.net (Don )

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:24:05 GMT

--------

"Marvin L. Zinn" <marvinlzinn@worldnet.att.net> wrote:



>Larry,

>

>    

>    I am still experimenting. I don't believe it is nearly as good as 

>the book says, but I plan to keep using it, even at the expensive price 

>of $30 for less than a half ounce. Usually a very small amount is all 

>that is needed. I use about a bottle a month.

>    

>    I too would like to know of others' experiences.

>    

>                                                marvinlzinn



Larry if you do a search on essential oil you will find many suppliers

for a lot less than $30 a half ounce.



Don





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Subject: Re: Wild Oregano Oil

From: sunmachin@aol.comdrill (Sunmachin)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:51:52 GMT

--------

Oregano oil is supposed to be good for boils. That is what I have heard about

it. 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: searching for fresh water algae for healing/immune purposes

From: "Sue R Mays" <srmays@swbell.net>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:02:31 -0600

--------

I am looking for a fresh water algae product which would be an immune system

booster, help prevent viruses, etc. and can be ingested safely.  Also need

to locate in large quantities.

Note: this is not Chlorella, or Spirulina.  Other products or resources

requested.











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Subject: Mood Swings in 3 yr old

From: "sandybill" <slbillingsley@yahoo.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:17:20 GMT

--------

My 3 year old son (just 3 in November) is like a Jeckel & Hyde.  He has

terrible mood swings.  One minute nice & compliant, the next minute a

tantrum!  Are there any herbs that might help him?  This behavior just

began after a recent move to a new town.  Thanks

--

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http://www.talkway.com









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Subject: Re: Mood Swings in 3 yr old

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:00 GMT

--------

"sandybill" <slbillingsley@yahoo.com> wrote:



>My 3 year old son (just 3 in November) is like a Jeckel & Hyde.  He has

>terrible mood swings.  One minute nice & compliant, the next minute a

>tantrum!  Are there any herbs that might help him?  This behavior just

>began after a recent move to a new town.  Thanks



He's acting normal for a 3 year old whose life just got

disrupted. 



Rather than drugging him into docility (and herbs ARE drugs, just

not factory-made ones), find the library in your new town and

check out some books on how to handle moves for children.  Run

through the settling in steps.  Ideally you would have started

this before the move, but do what you can.



He's old enough to talk to, pick a time when he's calm and in a

good mood to talk to him about what he misses in the old town -

it might be something that you can acquire easily, or it might

take some work.  Ask him if anythig in the neighborhood scares

him - maybe a new neighbor did something that scared him, maybe a

dog in the neighborhood scares him. 

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Mood Swings in 3 yr old

From: Cheshire.hawk@hotmail.com (Cheshirehawk)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:35:33 GMT

--------

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:00 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

wrote:



<snip>

>Rather than drugging him into docility (and herbs ARE drugs, just

>not factory-made ones), find the library in your new town and

>check out some books on how to handle moves for children.  Run

>through the settling in steps.  Ideally you would have started

>this before the move, but do what you can.

>

<snip>



Agreed.  You need to treat the cause, not the symptom.



Blessed Be,



Cheshirehawk



(Remove dot in Cheshire.hawk to send email)





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Mood Swings in 3 yr old

From: vlhill@airmail.net (Vicki Hill)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:34:35 GMT

--------

On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:00 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

wrote:



>>My 3 year old son (just 3 in November) is like a Jeckel & Hyde.  He has

>>terrible mood swings.  One minute nice & compliant, the next minute a

>>tantrum!  Are there any herbs that might help him?  This behavior just

>>began after a recent move to a new town.  Thanks

>

>He's acting normal for a 3 year old whose life just got

>disrupted. 



That is entirely possible - but not necessarily so. He may be showing

some signs of other issues that would normally start coming out about

that age.



We moved from the US to Germany when my son was 7, and back when he

was 8. Thought THAT was the reason behind the problems we were seeing.

Turned out to not be the case...he is now 11 yo and has Tourette

Syndrome plus some other neuro issues. Just so happens that the

average age for Tourette to show up is around age 7, so the move and

the TS showing up at the same time were coincidental.



I'd certainly follow the advice others have said here...assume it is

move-related and work through that issue. But I would also say -

continue to observe on the offchance that it IS something else.



Vicki H.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Shampoo Question

From: jhorton6@hotmail.com (Jason Horton)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:10:11 -0800

--------

What are some things to look for in a good shampoo and

what are some things you should look out for. For

someone with fine hair.







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Subject: Re: Shampoo Question

From: Elbereth <jitkah@megsinet.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:19:47 -0600

--------

From my own experinece rosemary essential oil cann't hurt. It is one of the main

essential oils, that are very healthy for you hair. Also geranium EO and  jojoba

oil that is moisturising. Good thing is to get a shampoo base, that consists mainly

from coconut oil and add either the above mentioned oils (about 50 drops per 100

ml) or the person in the store with the shampoo base might have some other

suggestions.



Jitka



Jason Horton wrote:



> What are some things to look for in a good shampoo and

> what are some things you should look out for. For

> someone with fine hair.

>

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Subject: Mixing Kava and Trazodone okay?

From: mpd@mindspring.com (Jim)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:03:27 GMT

--------

I currently have been taking 100mg Trazodone at bedtime for its sleep

inducing benefits. Far as I know I'm not depressed but do have trouble

- lately a lot of trouble - with anxiety attacks. Spreading an

additonal 50mg to 75mg during the day helps me control the anxiety but

is less than ideal when taken during the day.



I once took a Kavatrol capsule (Kava plus minor doses of other herbs)

and felt great for the rest of the day, but, my doctor is not sure if

Kava should be mixed with Trazodone at all so I didn't repeat the

experiment. While Kava should not be mixed with a benzo or some types

of anti-depressants, Traz is kind of a unique anti-depressant as I

understand it. Can anyone give us (me and the doctor) any input into

any possible hazards of mixing Trazodone with Kava? Some place with a

definitive answer?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Mixing Kava and Trazodone okay?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:52:24 -0500

--------

I found no reference to Kava-drug interactions on that website.  I think

that there is no such information in existence (yet) because no one has

decided to fund a study.  Imagine trying to test all possible interactions

with all available psychoactive medications - a statisticians nightmare just

setting up such a study.



-Rich



Kevin Gallion wrote in message <77h1rn$600@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

>

>I found a Website that has this information and then some.  Its

>http://www.alwanrx.com  Hope you find it as useful as I have.

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: canine arthritis

From: a31960@aol.comantispam (A31960)

Date: 12 Jan 1999 18:52:20 GMT

--------

shark cartilage, aspirin

stay away from the rimadyl...the problems it causes are worse than arthritis

aloe vera doesn't help





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: gleason@pacifier.com (Gleason Pace)

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:54:49 GMT

--------

On 12 Jan 1999 18:52:20 GMT, a31960@aol.comantispam (A31960) wrote:



>shark cartilage, aspirin



You would give aspirin to a dog?  Probably better talk to your vet

about that.  



>stay away from the rimadyl...the problems it causes are worse than arthritis

>aloe vera doesn't help



Gleason



Have you discovered The Hidden Garden?

http://wholeleaf.webjump.com





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:43:53 +0000

--------

The NSAID's people have been talking about here are symptomatic pain

relievers but won't do anything about the cause of the pain, the joint

degeneration.



Glucosamine hydrochloride or sulphate is supposed to help regeneration

of the joints (used for people too) and I know there are several

companies in the US marketing veterinary formulations.  Afraid I can't

remember any names though - just walked past them in various trade

shows.



Incidentally, a lot of push for the development and applications of

glucosamine came from the racehorse industry and this is still a big

consumer.





Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:45:40 GMT

--------

>The NSAID's people have been talking about here are symptomatic pain

>relievers but won't do anything about the cause of the pain, the joint

>degeneration.



NSAIDs also speed up the degeneration of the joint by inhibiting the blood floe

to the area.

They are also well known for causing hepatitis, and kidney failure as a few of

their side effects. Large or prolonged dosages are not required for side

effects. KIdney failure can occur from a single recommended dose. I know 4

people who developed kidney failure this way.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: ".Nisaba Merrieweather" <nisaba@tac.com.au>

Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:35:13 GMT

--------

Hi there.



A31960 <a31960@aol.comantispam> wrote in article

<19990112135220.28531.00012229@ng39.aol.com>...



> shark cartilage, aspirin



Asparin is fatal to cats and very, very harmful to dogs. Always, always

talk to a qualified vet before giving an animal a medication designed for

humans.





-- 

                       .Nisaba Merrieweather

                       nisaba@tac.com.au

May your chooks turn into emus & kick your dunny in.##I am Death, not

Taxes. I come only once.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: sbode@aol.com (Sbode)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 03:21:23 GMT

--------

aspirin is not harmful to dogs

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------

"That government which governs least governs best " ---Thomas Jefferson





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:21:13 GMT

--------

>aspirin is not harmful to dogs

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

>------------------------------------------------------

>"That government which governs least governs best " ---Thomas Jefferson





Is it only harmful to people then?



Belinda









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: Amanda <amandaf@home.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:16:59 GMT

--------

Actually it is Acetominafin (Sp?) ie- tylenol that is fatal to dogs and

cats.  I think things with Ibuprofin like advil and bufferin are the

"safe" pain killers for our pets.  Also giving them something that is

less harmful on their tummies is good too. 



".Nisaba Merrieweather" wrote:

> 

> Hi there.

> 

> A31960 <a31960@aol.comantispam> wrote in article

> <19990112135220.28531.00012229@ng39.aol.com>...

> 

> > shark cartilage, aspirin

> 

> Asparin is fatal to cats and very, very harmful to dogs. Always, always

> talk to a qualified vet before giving an animal a medication designed for

> humans.

> 

> --

>                        .Nisaba Merrieweather

>                        nisaba@tac.com.au

> May your chooks turn into emus & kick your dunny in.##I am Death, not

> Taxes. I come only once.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: canine arthritis

From: henryyllwb@aol.com (HenryYllwB)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:08:55 GMT

--------

my 11 year old Black Lab couln't hardly move and I started giving her un

flavored jello in milk every day...she gets around much better

would glucosamine help her more???





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Hawthorne Cream

From: Martha <stewartbros@erols.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:12:00 -0500

--------

Does anyone know what is in Hawthorne Cream and where I can get some in

the Maryland area?  Thanks in advance.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: pynchon@cryogen.com

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:36:25 GMT

--------

Hi,



I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a day.



I've not found it to improve my mood. I've taken it every day for months, one

capsule with breakfast, one with lunch and one with dinner. Or two with

breakfast and one with lunch. Or two with lunch and one with dinner.



I've tried Nature's Way and other brands.



I'm starting to wonder if the standardized extract + ground herb just doesn't

have the right substances in it.



The latest issue of Herbalgram mentions something known as Hyperforin that is

now thought to be the active ingredient of St. John's Wort, rather than

Hypericin.



Any thoughts?



I've started taking Perika from Nature's Way, thinking that maybe it is closer

to the product that the scientific tests have been completed using.



Pynchon





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:25:16 GMT

--------

>I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

>Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a day.

>

>I've not found it to improve my mood. 



I use Putitan's Pride regularly, and just bought some Solaray since it was on

sale.  Both work great for me.  



Robin





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 03:06:49 GMT

--------

>Hi,

>

>I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

>Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a day.

>

>I've not found it to improve my mood. I've taken it every day for months, one

>capsule with breakfast, one with lunch and one with dinner. Or two with

>breakfast and one with lunch. Or two with lunch and one with dinner.

>

>I've tried Nature's Way and other brands.

>

>I'm starting to wonder if the standardized extract + ground herb just doesn't

>have the right substances in it.

>

>The latest issue of Herbalgram mentions something known as Hyperforin that is

>now thought to be the active ingredient of St. John's Wort, rather than

>Hypericin.

>

>Any thoughts?

>

>I've started taking Perika from Nature's Way, thinking that maybe it is

>closer

>to the product that the scientific tests have been completed using.

>

>Pynchon



My partner has been using St John's Wort tincture which we make ourselves and

has found it very helpful particularly with the "winter blues." He did not find

the capsules helpful at all. We purchased them during the holidays when we ran

out of tincture. They remain in the drawer.



You might try a tincture of the fresh plant material.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:46:25 -0800

--------

I agree with Belinda, you might find fresh plant tincture helpful. I really

like the products from HerbPharm. I find them to be of good quality and

Herbal Ed is known to use ethical business practives. No I don't work there.



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:38:22 GMT

--------

>I agree with Belinda, you might find fresh plant tincture helpful. I really

>like the products from HerbPharm. I find them to be of good quality and

>Herbal Ed is known to use ethical business practives. No I don't work there.

>

>Ingrid



I've heard good things about HerbPharm as well...and I sell tinctures too.



Belinda







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:37:21 -0800

--------

Herbal Ed from HerbPharm is one of the pioneers of herbal medicine, well

respected here in Oregon.  When I can O make my own tinctures for for those

I need to buy I use mostly Herbpharm.



Ingrid















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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:11:43 -0500

--------

pynchon@cryogen.com wrote in message <77gf8n$56k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>

>Any thoughts?

>



No one herb works the same way for everyone.  All medications interact with

our own unique body chemistry.  That is why, for instance, there are so many

prescription antidepressants on the market.  What works in one situation may

be ineffective or even harmful in another.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: "Susan Wix" <halo100@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 17 Jan 1999 02:49:05 GMT

--------

I have studied several laboratory tests on St John's Wort. I found that it

is an excellent multiple  anti-Fungal.  In some Depression and in most CFS

a fungus is involved, when it enters the brain. I'm sure that in certain

types of depression a fungus is to blame and St. john's Wort is the answer

to the problem, but in a broader view of the problem, I have found two

strains of Virus that are responsible for Anxiety & Depression.



There is a Homeopathic product called Anxiety / Depression. It is

distributed by Halo supply Co.   It seems to eliminate the problem and you

can feel the results in just a couple of days.



I used it last year when my father passed away. I had never felt depression

before and that product was wonderful.



Sincerely,  Sean











pynchon@cryogen.com wrote in message <77gf8n$56k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>Hi,

>

>I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

>Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a

day.

>

>I've not found it to improve my mood. I've taken it every day for months,

one

>capsule with breakfast, one with lunch and one with dinner. Or two with

>breakfast and one with lunch. Or two with lunch and one with dinner.

>

>I've tried Nature's Way and other brands.

>

>I'm starting to wonder if the standardized extract + ground herb just

doesn't

>have the right substances in it.

>

>The latest issue of Herbalgram mentions something known as Hyperforin that

is

>now thought to be the active ingredient of St. John's Wort, rather than

>Hypericin.

>

>Any thoughts?

>

>I've started taking Perika from Nature's Way, thinking that maybe it is

closer

>to the product that the scientific tests have been completed using.

>

>Pynchon

>

>

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Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:36:15 +0000

--------

pynchon@cryogen.com wrote:

> 

> Hi,

> 

> I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

> Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a day.

> 

> I've not found it to improve my mood. I've taken it every day for months, one

> capsule with breakfast, one with lunch and one with dinner. Or two with

> breakfast and one with lunch. Or two with lunch and one with dinner.

> 

> I've tried Nature's Way and other brands.

> 

> I'm starting to wonder if the standardized extract + ground herb just doesn't

> have the right substances in it.

> 

> The latest issue of Herbalgram mentions something known as Hyperforin that is

> now thought to be the active ingredient of St. John's Wort, rather than

> Hypericin.

> 





Hi,



The SJW market is very crowded and everyone is selling basically the

same stuff, 0.3% hypericin standardized extract.  



I am very suspicious that the recent hype about hype-rforin ;) is

another attempt at product differentiation and owes more to marketing

than anything else.   Schwabe have got a patent issued on their SJW

extract that relates to standardizing the hyperforin content using

various antioxidants.  Big deal.  They have a small production and I

think it is all for captive use in that Lichtwehr (sp?) brand of

capsules.  As far as I know, none of the studies on SJW as an

antidepressant used extract standardized to hyperforin anyway, so I

think they are ploughing a pretty lonely furrow on this one.



Hyperforin is just one of the many chemical constituents of SJW, and

still noone really knows which one or which combination of chemicals has

the medicinal effect.  Whatever brand of finished dosage form you are

using it has hyperforin in it too.  I think it is less stable than

hypericin (hence the need for the antioxidants) but it doesn't degrade

that quickly.



Has anyone tried SJW standardized to hyperforin and found it worked when

SJW standardized to hypericin didn't?  I'd be interested to hear.



Regs,



Nick





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Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:49:52 -0800

--------

I use fresh plant tincture - harvest the herbs myself. Works great.

Not standardized to anything.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort

From: BB2 <blessedby2@home.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:24:41 GMT

--------





Nick wrote:



> I am very suspicious that the recent hype about hype-rforin ;) is

> another attempt at product differentiation and owes more to marketing

> than anything else.   Schwabe have got a patent issued on their SJW

> extract that relates to standardizing the hyperforin content using

> various antioxidants.  Big deal.  They have a small production and I

> think it is all for captive use in that Lichtwehr (sp?) brand of

> capsules.  As far as I know, none of the studies on SJW as an

> antidepressant used extract standardized to hyperforin anyway, so I

> think they are ploughing a pretty lonely furrow on this one.



Well .. uhhhhhh ... how could the studies have been done on SJW standardized to

hyperforin if hyperforin wasn't recognized as a significant component back when the

studies were done and no one was standardizing to hyperforin then ????



See the following website for updated info on hyperforin ...

http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ

BB2







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Subject: Fo-Ti

From: Nita Stull <NStull@pcninc.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:35:31 -0800

--------

I have recently become aware of the Chinese herb Fo-Ti.  Do you know

anything about its growing, harvesting, and administration?  I've read

that its roots are the tonic...are they ground fine, not so fine?  and

how much?  Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.



thanks for any response.

Nita





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Fo-Ti

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:29:57 -0700

--------









> I have recently become aware of the Chinese herb Fo-Ti.  Do you know

> anything about its growing, harvesting, and administration?  I've read

> that its roots are the tonic...are they ground fine, not so fine?  and

> how much?  Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

>

>



The botanical name of Fo-ti is Polygonum multiflorum.  In Chinese medicine

there are two forms of Polygonum used, processed, and unprocessed.  The

processed form is what has become somewhat popular in the west.  It's

classified as a blood tonic in Chinese medicine.  If you want some pretty

good info about it's uses and growing conditions, check out a book called

"Herbal Emissaries," by Steven Foster.  You can obtain seeds in the U.S.

and grow it however, you probably want the processed root.  Thus, you will

have to buy it from somewhere that's sells Chinese herbs.







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Subject: salvia divinorum???

From: "Andre Bakker" <polm2000@polm2000.demon.nl>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:54:29 +0100

--------

how nows anything about salvia divinorum???

i smoked it and it made me very high but what is it where its from???

ho nows and ho will help me



Live life in peace people!!!!!

                                             Andre Bakker









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Subject: Re: salvia divinorum???

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 15:00:52 GMT

--------

Try running a search in alt.drugs.psychedelic.

Lots of good info! Also try www.lycaeum.org.

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: Focal Segmented Glomerularsclerosis

From: "Lisa" <lsgrmm@bright.net>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:16:11 -0500

--------

Hi folks...



We are looking for a suggested treatment for a friend of ours who has Focal

Segmented Glomerularsclerosis.  This is a renal disease that, in more than

50%, ends in renal failure.



Contemporary medicine calls for steroids and immunosupressors.

We don't believe in using those, but thought that information might help in

recommending a treatment.  The patient is a 13 y/o girl who is symptomatic,

but has no definitive onset.



Any general information on this disease would also be helpful.



If you could please respond both to the group and privately, it would help

us immensly!



Thank you!



Lisa & Griffin









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Subject: Documentation of milk thistle efficacy in hep C treatment

From: "picloud" <ncoffey@viser.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 06:55:28 GMT

--------

Does anyone know of any good clinical documentation of liver condition

improvement through Milk Thistle treatment?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: myths and legends

From: "picloud" <ncoffey@viser.net>

Date: 13 Jan 1999 06:58:16 GMT

--------





Greenergrl <greenergrl@aol.com> wrote in article

<19990108110616.01150.00009524@ng-ca1.aol.com>...

> I'm doing a project on myths, legends, superstitions of herbs from

ancient

> greece to Europe in the middle ages to 19th century America. I am going

to take

> these myths of how herbs came into use, how they were used and for what

reason,

> and compare it with the scientific evidence we now have in the 20th

century to

> exoplain why herbs work. (chemistry, botany, biology, physics) If anyone

has

> any knowledge of this or and stories to tell, I would love to hear them.

Thanks

> kristen 

> 

Where do you want to start.  Most modern medicines have botanical origins. 

Aspirin for example..







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Subject: Herbs and scents for Capricorns

From: sky@skyguides.com

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:19:03 GMT

--------

The best herbs and scents used by Capricorns are cedar, vetiver, wormwood,

myrrh, bay, cypress, frankincense, and patchouli.





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Subject: Re: Herbs and scents for Capricorns

From: bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 00:13:33 GMT

--------

>>>>The best herbs and scents used by Capricorns are cedar, vetiver, wormwood,

myrrh, bay, cypress, frankincense, and patchouli.<<<<<



Nay Nay nay,,, the best sent for a capricorn is Money.  Any denomination will

do as long as there is a lot of it





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbs and scents for Capricorns

From: sky@skyguides.com

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:56:29 GMT

--------

In article <19990113191333.15037.00000346@ng-fq1.aol.com>,

  bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981) wrote:

> >>>>The best herbs and scents used by Capricorns are cedar, vetiver, wormwood,

> myrrh, bay, cypress, frankincense, and patchouli.<<<<<

>

> Nay Nay nay,,, the best sent for a capricorn is Money.  Any denomination will

> do as long as there is a lot of it

>



Yes Capricorn does love money and power, but he or she also wants to smell

rich!



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Subject: Re: Herbs and scents for Capricorns

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:43:38 GMT

--------

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:56:29 GMT, sky@skyguides.com wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>  bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981) wrote:

>> >>>>The best herbs and scents used by Capricorns are cedar, vetiver, wormwood,

>> myrrh, bay, cypress, frankincense, and patchouli.<<<<<

>>

>> Nay Nay nay,,, the best sent for a capricorn is Money.  Any denomination will

>> do as long as there is a lot of it

>

>Yes Capricorn does love money and power, but he or she also wants to smell

>rich!



That's easily arranged. Just don't wash for a month or five.



Henriette



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Subject: Peeling Nails

From: Martha <stewartbros@erols.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:48:54 -0500

--------

My fingernails have started peeling lately and I was wondering if anyone

would have a clue and solution.  I haven't really changed my diet, no

new medicines or vitamins.  They's always been strong and healthy. 

Could it be that they are dried out, and maybe some vitamin E rubbed on

would help.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thank you in advance.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Peeling Nails

From: Amanda <amandaf@home.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:11:25 GMT

--------

I found I had that problem when I worked with clay...rubing them with

almond oil will strengthen them.  Maybe that will also stop the peeling.



Amanda



Martha wrote:

> 

> My fingernails have started peeling lately and I was wondering if anyone

> would have a clue and solution.  I haven't really changed my diet, no

> new medicines or vitamins.  They's always been strong and healthy.

> Could it be that they are dried out, and maybe some vitamin E rubbed on

> would help.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thank you in advance.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pregnenolone

From: sfbobby@aol.com (SFbobby)

Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:10:27 GMT

--------

Just what is Pregnenolone and what is it supposed to do for you??  Friends are

taking it  but they don't have a good explanation why except that it was pushed

in some newsletter.



Can anyone help??





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnenolone

From: sfbobby@aol.com (SFbobby)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:51:14 GMT

--------

The spelling is correct...and I've since found a wealth of information (most

sales oriented) via InfoSeek.  Thanks for your interest.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Milkweed vs. Milk Thistle

From: violet@home.com

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 03:54:58 GMT

--------

What is the difference? If any? Thanks!







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Subject: Re: Milkweed vs. Milk Thistle

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:04:30 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



violet@home.com wrote:

> 

> What is the difference? If any? Thanks!



The following is from Horizon Herbs' 1999 seed catalog, which can be

found online at: http://www.chatlink.com/~herbseed

--------------------------------------------------------------------



Milk Thistle (Silybum marianum) - Family: Asteraceae



Over wintering annual. Native to the Mediterranean. Giant shiny-leaved

plant with white variegations and towering, purple flowered thistles.

Milk Thistle is grown for its seed, which is a unique hepato-protective

agent, containing among other flavonoids the much touted silymarin. The

seed itself, ground up and added to food or made into an alcoholic

extract and taken internally, will help protect the liver from damage by

environmental toxins, poisons or disease.

=

Milkweed, Common (Asclepias syriaca)

Family: Asclepiadaceae



Annual. Native to the central, eastern, and southern United States. This

plant is handsomely downy, with large eliptical leaves, warty pods, and

pink purple flowers which emit one of the most delightful odors on

earth. The spring shoots are edible, but as the plant matures the milky

latex grows stronger in activity and should not be taken internally, but

may be used for wart removal. The tea of the roots is a Native American

laxative and contraceptive.

=



-Val





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Milkweed vs. Milk Thistle

From: zvan@my-dejanews.com

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:03:48 GMT

--------

In article <369D6AF1.6BDEEFDF@home.com>,

  violet@home.com wrote:

> What is the difference? If any? Thanks!

>



utterly different plants. milkweed has large, oval, shiny leaves and bunches

of sweet-smelling flowers of varying colors. milkweed is toxic, except the

shoots and seed pods (even the shoots need boiling in two changes of water).

Milk thistle is a large thistle, with marbled, lobed, spiny leaves.



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Subject: oatstraw

From: diane downs <rdowns@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:35:16 -0800

--------

i would like to know where i can find information about oatstraw.

what is scientific name?

i have looked under oatstraw and have found no information.

does it have another common name?









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: oatstraw

From: Deb <deb@mt.jeff.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:30:13 -0800

--------

Avena sativa



diane downs wrote:



> i would like to know where i can find information about oatstraw.

> what is scientific name?

> i have looked under oatstraw and have found no information.

> does it have another common name?











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: oatstraw

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:27:18 GMT

--------



Oatstraw is the straw or stalk of the oats you eat in your oatmeal.



>Avena sativa

>

>diane downs wrote:

>

>> i would like to know where i can find information about oatstraw.

>> what is scientific name?

>> i have looked under oatstraw and have found no information.

>> does it have another common name?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: capsicum & vitamin c

From: sax50man@aol.com (Sax50man)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:04:57 GMT

--------

is capsicum a source for vitamin c and if so how does it compare to a 500mg

tablet of vitamin c? 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: capsicum & vitamin c

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:57:25 +0000

--------

Sax50man wrote:



> is capsicum a source for vitamin c and if so how does it compare to a 500mg

> tablet of vitamin c?



Yes capsicum is a good source of Vit C.

I have no idea of the dosage but if you ate a Capsicum a day you would have

heaps of Vit C in your system.



Simon.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Disturbed Sleeper

From: "linda" <lafaust@geocities.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:32:02 GMT

--------

I am one of those people who works different shifts.  Mostly 11pm to 7am

night shift, occasional 3pm to 11pm, and a few 7am to 3pm.  At least two

different shifts in a week.  Sometime all three shifts in one week.  To help

keep myself from frying my mind to a crisp I take one St.John's Wort, 300mg

(0.3%) tablet three times a day.  But I am afraid to take it for more then

three months at a time because I am unsure of any side effect from long time

use.  I usually return to it after a two month break or when people start to

question my wild moods.

Can anyone tell me about long term use, and the latest regarding is it an

MAO inhibitor?

Secondly I picked up valerian root tablets 450mg to take before I go to

sleep, whatever time of day that might be.  I just started taking two

tablets before bed.  Will this be of any benefit to me?  Are there side

effects of long term use of valerian root?

Thanks!



Linda









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: "linda" <lafaust@geocities.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:54:20 GMT

--------

Simon,

MAO inhibitors are explained at  http://deoxy.org/maoidiet.htm

It has to do with metabolizing a certain chemical found in some foods.

When you take something that inhibits that chemical from being use up that

same chemical will cause you grief. But it better you read about it.

Instead of getting my interpretation.

Sweet dreams,

Linda



simon J okeeffe wrote in message <369DCE43.1C683F49@gjames.com.au>...



>

>I am in the same boat as you Linda.

>Sorry I can 't answer your question but I am really interested in finding

out

>the answers.

>What is a MAO inhibitor?

>

>Simon.

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:18:31 -0500

--------

linda wrote in message ...

>I am one of those people who works different shifts.  Mostly 11pm to 7am

>night shift, occasional 3pm to 11pm, and a few 7am to 3pm.  At least two

>different shifts in a week.  Sometime all three shifts in one week.  To

help

>keep myself from frying my mind to a crisp I take one St.John's Wort, 300mg

>(0.3%) tablet three times a day.  But I am afraid to take it for more then

>three months at a time because I am unsure of any side effect from long

time

>use.  I usually return to it after a two month break or when people start

to

>question my wild moods.



>Can anyone tell me about long term use, and the latest regarding is it an

>MAO inhibitor?





It actually *needs* to be taken for a while before an effect can be seen.

As far as long term use, most medicines (herbal and otherwise) tend to lose

effectiveness after a while.  Most of the literature I've seen on MAO

inhibition suggests that St. Johns Wort shows weak MAO inhibition if any.

Of course, if you are very sensitive to such chemicals it could effect you,

but if you hve been taking it for a while without ill effects that probably

doesn't apply in your case.



>Secondly I picked up valerian root tablets 450mg to take before I go to

>sleep, whatever time of day that might be.  I just started taking two

>tablets before bed.  Will this be of any benefit to me?  Are there side

>effects of long term use of valerian root?





The only long term effects I've heard of are gradually reduced

effectiveness.  However, with sedatives this may mean you will have more

trouble getting to sleep than you did to begin with.



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:35:43 -0800

--------

The laters research on St John's Wort is that is acts as a SSRI not a MAO

inhibitor.



No reason why you can't use it past 3 months.



Same with valerian root, you can use it every night if you need it. You

might also try passionflower, skullcap, hops and kava.



Have you tried melatonin? Helps some people who work funny hours, get jet

lagged etc.



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 01:37:36 GMT

--------

>The laters research on St John's Wort is that is acts as a SSRI not a MAO

>inhibitor.

>

>No reason why you can't use it past 3 months.

>

>Same with valerian root, you can use it every night if you need it. You

>might also try passionflower, skullcap, hops and kava.

>

>Have you tried melatonin? Helps some people who work funny hours, get jet

>lagged etc.

>

>Ingrid



Catnip or Mullein tinctures have worked for us.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: clg771@aol.com (CLG771)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 04:11:36 GMT

--------

I just started taking Melatonin and have had great results in about a week.  I

work strange hours, and have always had trouble falling asleep as it is.  My

parents have also taken it, and mom has stopped because she said she was having

strange dreams.  I've found that within 20-30 minutes of taking it I've been

able to fall asleep with no tossing or turning.



Just wanted to give my 2 cents.



Carrie





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:40:35 GMT

--------

>I just started taking Melatonin and have had great results in about a week.

>I

>work strange hours, and have always had trouble falling asleep as it is.  My

>parents have also taken it, and mom has stopped because she said she was

>having

>strange dreams.  I've found that within 20-30 minutes of taking it I've been

>able to fall asleep with no tossing or turning.

>

>Just wanted to give my 2 cents.

>

>Carrie





Let's keep in mind that Melatonin is a hormone and we don't know that much

about what its long-term effects are.



Belinda









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:04:25 GMT

--------

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:35:43 -0800, "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Same with valerian root, you can use it every night if you need it. 



Valerian will give you side effects if you use it long-term. Particularly if you

use dried root preparations, as opposed to fresh plant tincture.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:12:24 +0000

--------

>

>

> Valerian will give you side effects if you use it long-term. Particularly if you

> use dried root preparations, as opposed to fresh plant tincture.

>

> Henriette

>



Can any other parts of the pland be used for the tincture?

I have a nice sized valarian that is only about 6 months old  and I don't really

want to disturb the roots yet.



Simon.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Disturbed Sleeper

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:23:14 GMT

--------

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:12:24 +0000, simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>> Valerian will give you side effects if you use it long-term. Particularly if you

>> use dried root preparations, as opposed to fresh plant tincture.

>

>Can any other parts of the pland be used for the tincture?

>I have a nice sized valarian that is only about 6 months old  and I don't really

>want to disturb the roots yet.



Sure, just use the fresh flowering tops. It's weaker than the fresh root, but it

still works just fine.

Another tidbit: if you've Centranthus ruber in your garden, you can use

aboveground parts as well. It's weaker than the aboveground parts of Valeriana,

but it also works just fine.



Henriette



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Subject: Scar injectible?

From: dhdonna@aol.com (DH Donna)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:51:38 GMT

--------

Hi... I'm looking to find anything except a steroid that a naturopath or

regular physician can actually inject into a thickened scar or other mass to

help it dissipate... safely.  Anyone happen to know of such? Thank you! Please

email me at dhdonna@aol.com if you do know.



Donna





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Scar injectible?

From: diana cascioli <raven@gwu.edu>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:08:02 -0400

--------

DH Donna wrote:

> 

> Hi... I'm looking to find anything except a steroid that a naturopath or

> regular physician can actually inject into a thickened scar or other mass to

> help it dissipate... safely.  Anyone happen to know of such? Thank you! Please

> email me at dhdonna@aol.com if you do know.



repeated massage with vitamin E oil is supposed to do wonders for scars. 



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Scar injectible?

From: dhdonna@aol.com (DH Donna)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 06:35:59 GMT

--------

Thanks... will continue to try it. On that note, I wonder if anyone has had

better or worse effects with the different types of E out there, such as dry

E/water soluble E etc. :)





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Scar injectible?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:23:38 GMT

--------

Wonder if a castor oil compress would help on something like this. Anybody got

any ideas?



Belinda







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Scar injectible?

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:34:56 -0600

--------

oh second note, this would not be for injection, it would be for topical

use.



Hilary





DH Donna wrote in message <19990114035138.09881.00000821@ng-fi1.aol.com>...

>Hi... I'm looking to find anything except a steroid that a naturopath or

>regular physician can actually inject into a thickened scar or other mass

to

>help it dissipate... safely.  Anyone happen to know of such? Thank you!

Please

>email me at dhdonna@aol.com if you do know.

>

>Donna









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Subject: Apple Cider Vinegar

From: "Marion" <happyduo@nidlink.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:34:02 -0800

--------

Has anyone tried this?  Put a cup of the vinegar in the tub of water and

soak for 20 minutes...do this for 7 days straight.



It is done to detoxify the body.



I am wondering if this works.. Any help is appreciated.



Marion









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Subject: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:15:24 -0500

--------

Yes Apple Cider Vinegar works well. It also works to detoxify from

within. One ounce of ACV in a 10 ounce glass of water twice daily works

in that way, but it must be apple cider vinegar, not any other type of

vinegar.



     Donald Levell, M.H.





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Subject: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: "jhs" <jhs@sophia.actinet.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:38:15 -0000

--------

Are there any contraindications or negative side-effects to taking Dong Quai

(Chinese Angelica, Dang Gui)?



I have experienced tremendous results - my tension headaches have virtually

disappeared, and when I do get them, they are much less intense.  I

mentioned in at work and a couple of my colleagues would like to try it for

themselves.  I'd like to present them with a taster bottle each, but I want

to be sure I wouldn't be poisoning/damaging them in any way.  (I know that

one of them suffers from kidney problems, and the other one has had a

hysterectomy.)



Thank you for your help.



Helen









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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:29:54 -0500

--------

Dong Quai (Angelica Sinensis) has over two thousand years of beneficial,

safe use. To my knowledge there are no cautions needed. The only

cautions I have seen come from government bureaucrats (in FDA or Health

Canada) and drug industry officials who stand to lose financially when

people don't use their prescription drugs. Dong Quai is the most widely

used and safest tonics in the world. Just a note of interest...Dong Quai

has a VERY stong odor and generally the stronger that odor the better

the quality. Lack of a strong odor means the supplier has added fillers. 

 

     Donald Levell, M.H.





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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:46:53 -0500

--------

Dong Quai (Chinese Angelica) has been used by the women of China for

over two thousand years without any record of side effects. In North

America it is most often used "specifically" for menstrual problems

rather than avoided during the cycle. 

 

     Don Levell, M.H.

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: jmarnell@SPAMBLOCKER.netcomuk.co.uk

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:32:01 GMT

--------

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:46:53 -0500, Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

wrote:



>In North America it is most often used "specifically" for menstrual problems

>rather than avoided during the cycle. 

> 

>     Don Levell, M.H.

>     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca

Yes, I take it specifically for menstrual problems. It completely

obliterates my severe mood swings, unbearable cramping, tension

headaches and bloating. It also regulates my flow, rather than making

it heavier. I used to bleed profusely on days 2-3, lots of clotting,

then I'd stain for about another 7 days. (I had 3 different Gyn docs

tell me this was still "normal" and nothing to worry about. It's just

the way I was, even though I wasn't like this until about 5yrs. ago.)

With the Dong Quai, I have a nice, steady, 7-day cycle, and I don't

feel like I'm bleeding to death. It's the only thing that has ever

helped me. The only suggestion the doctors ever offered was to try

Evening Primrose Oil. All that did was give me a mustache.



GCM 





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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: "Cindy Goh" <ObleahO@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>

Date: 20 Jan 1999 15:24:12 GMT

--------

My family have been using Dang Gui for as long as I can remember, without

any problems. It's usually given to woman to help build blood especially

after heavy menstruation.



However, we chinese believes that dang gui is "warming" hence should not be

used often, especially when the weather is hot and one is suffering from

sore throat or fever - Well, that is if you believe in the yin and yang

business.





Cindy







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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:09:35 -0500

--------

Cindy Goh wrote in message

<01be4489$523b9f40$d13415a5@Singnet.singnet.com.sg>...

>However, we chinese believes that dang gui is "warming" hence should not be

>used often, especially when the weather is hot and one is suffering from

>sore throat or fever - Well, that is if you believe in the yin and yang

>business.





Well, whether "you believe in the yin and yang business" or not ;-), all

herbs can be classified as more or less cooling (calming or reducing

activity) or heating (stimulating or increasing activity).  Some herbs are

both, effecting different bodily systems in opposite ways.  It is helpful to

acquaint ourselves with the Chinese way of looking at herbs, even though the

nomenclature may be difficult and the organ systems do not necessarily

directly correspond with the physical organs of the same name.  Remember the

Chinese have been using (and writing about) herbal medicine in an

*organized* fashion for a LONG time; and their tradition continues right up

through the present, unlike the Western tradition, which was rather

fragmented all along and almost completely broken by the advent of modern

pharmaceuticals and legislation concerning the practice of medicine.



-Rich











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Subject: Re: DONG QUAI side-effects?

From: <osha@iname.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:02:09 -0700

--------



Greetings!



To my knowledge Dong Quai is used in women who have long menstral cycles.

It is given in the estrogen (pre-ovulation) phase of the cycle to shorten

menstration. It increases estrogen utilization. In Traditional Chinese

Medicine it is used for hepatitis, cirrohsis of the liver, and as a kidney

tonic.  It is also contra-indicated for women who have estrogen dependent

cancers because it binds to the estrogen receptor sites.



If your friend is on hormone replacement therapy for the hysterectomy, she

probably should consult a physician or medical herbalist to make sure this

won't screw it up.  For your friend with kidney problems, I guess it would

depend on the type of problem the kidneys were having before I could say

if it would help or harm.  Again, consultation with a health care provider

is encouraged.



Good luck!

Emily





On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, jhs wrote:



jhs>Are there any contraindications or negative side-effects to taking Dong Quai

jhs>(Chinese Angelica, Dang Gui)?

jhs>

jhs>I have experienced tremendous results - my tension headaches have virtually

jhs>disappeared, and when I do get them, they are much less intense.  I

jhs>mentioned in at work and a couple of my colleagues would like to try it for

jhs>themselves.  I'd like to present them with a taster bottle each, but I want

jhs>to be sure I wouldn't be poisoning/damaging them in any way.  (I know that

jhs>one of them suffers from kidney problems, and the other one has had a

jhs>hysterectomy.)

jhs>

jhs>Thank you for your help.

jhs>

jhs>Helen









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: testing

From: spacey <spacey@tamu.edu>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:07:28 -0600

--------

the account setup.



obherbs: does anyone know if you can add herbal extracts or leaves or

something to the mix when you're making paper?  (i just got a paper

making kit for christmas)



brigid







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Subject: What would cause a localized burning sensation?

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:43:08 GMT

--------

I am writing on behalf of a friend who is currently going through menopause.



She recently discontinued taking estrogen and her doctor has placed her on

Cardizan in order to

reduce her blood pressure.



She discontinued taking Gingko Biloba about a month ago.



She is also taking calcium supplements in addition to NatureMade

MultiVitamins...



Recently, she has been experiencing a burning sensation - localized on the top

of her head.  You

can actually feel the heat emanating from the top of her head.  She does not

have a fever or

headache.  However, her face is flushed.



Has anyone had any experience like this - and if so, what is the cause, and

what would you

recommend that she do about it?



Thanks in advance for any information!





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Subject: Re: What would cause a localized burning sensation?

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:56:37 GMT

--------



IMQTPI wrote in message <19990114184308.12051.00000712@ng-fb1.aol.com>...

>I am writing on behalf of a friend who is currently going through

menopause.

>

>She recently discontinued taking estrogen and her doctor has placed her on

>Cardizan in order to

>reduce her blood pressure.

>

>She discontinued taking Gingko Biloba about a month ago.

>

>She is also taking calcium supplements in addition to NatureMade

>MultiVitamins...

>

>Recently, she has been experiencing a burning sensation - localized on the

top

>of her head.  You

>can actually feel the heat emanating from the top of her head.  She does

not

>have a fever or

>headache.  However, her face is flushed.

>

>Has anyone had any experience like this - and if so, what is the cause, and

>what would you

>recommend that she do about it?

>

>Thanks in advance for any information!





It sounds pretty much to me like your friend is having a hot flash when that

happens.   She should take some motherwort extract a couple of times a day

when it gets annoying.    I would suggest that she get Susun Weed's book

called "The Menopausal Years the wise woman way"   It was the best help I

found.



Regards,

Evelyn









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Subject: Re: What would cause a localized burning sensation?

From: "Boadicea" <jesslea@rjac.clara.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:44:20 GMT

--------

My mother has had terrible hot flashes ever since her hysterectomy a while

back, and one thing she's said helps is American ginseng.  Apparently the

Korean and Japanese varieties cause the body to warm up, but the american

variety cools.  It might be something to try...I know mom really loves it!









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Subject: herbs

From: holygal10@aol.com (Holy gal10)

Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:49:14 GMT

--------

can you take st.johns wort and ginseng together? or so you take them alone? i

also have an eating disorder





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Subject: Re: herbs

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:57:07 -0800

--------

You can absolutely take St John's Wort and Ginseng together.



Ingrid









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Subject: herbs

From: "Fairy" <trfairy@hotmail.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:30:32 -0700

--------

can someone send me a useful list of medicinal herbs and where they can be

found?

Tara









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Subject: herbs

From: "Fairy" <trfairy@hotmail.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:30:32 -0700

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can someone send me a useful list of medicinal herbs and where they can be

found?

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: cat allergies

From: je <jearle1@gl.umbc.edu>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:17:59 -0500

--------

Hello,

   I just happened across this ng today. I am curious if anyone could

reccomend any herb that would help with my allergy to cats. My girlfriend

really wants a cat, but she has held off on getting one on my account.

Also, can anyone suggest some good books or websites on herbalism in

general? Thanks in advance,

JE

jearle1@gl.umbc.edu







==========

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: cat allergies

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 01:58:51 GMT

--------

>Hello,

>   I just happened across this ng today. I am curious if anyone could

>reccomend any herb that would help with my allergy to cats. My girlfriend

>really wants a cat, but she has held off on getting one on my account.

>Also, can anyone suggest some good books or websites on herbalism in

>general? Thanks in advance,

>JE

>jearle1@gl.umbc.edu



I have had 3 or 4 teachers tell me that mullein infusion will eliminate pet

hair allergies. You need to drink it every day for 6 weeks I believe.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: cat allergies

From: "Wanda" <jwds@main1.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:47:15 -0600

--------

I use MSM for allergies.  It is not a herb but I get it from the same

company I order my herbs from...  hope it helps...I don't have cat

allergies, mine are more evironmental type.  W.









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Subject: Re: cat allergies

From: kate@waldenpond.TAKETHISOUT.com. (Kate Reynolds)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:06 -0800

--------

I cannot vouch for this personally, but I believe that 100 IUs 

of Vitamin E daily --in the cat, mind you -- clears up the problem 

pretty well.  Buy the capsules, cut one open and squeeze it onto 

the cat food.



Kate







In article <Pine.SGI.3.96A.990114201036.141441A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>, je

<jearle1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:



> Hello,

>    I just happened across this ng today. I am curious if anyone could

> reccomend any herb that would help with my allergy to cats. My girlfriend

> really wants a cat, but she has held off on getting one on my account.

> Also, can anyone suggest some good books or websites on herbalism in

> general? Thanks in advance,

> JE

> jearle1@gl.umbc.edu



-- 

To reply, please delete TAKETHISOUT





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

To: je <jearle1@gl.umbc.edu>

Subject: Re: cat allergies

From: <osha@iname.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:50:43 -0700

--------



Hello,



I've heard Reishi mushroom (Ganoderma spp.) is good for allergies, among

other things. It is safe to use long term.  Rarely herbs have a

quick fix unfortunately. For example if you had allergies in the spring

you would start taking Reishi in the fall.  I would suggest having your

girlfriend take Reishi for three months and then see how the allergies

are.



Hope that helps!

Emily 



                Life is fabric, fabricated by fabricated lies

                if we quit fabricating the fabricated fabric

                        WE'D ALL BE NAKED- WOOHO0!!!



On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, je wrote:



jearle1>Hello,

jearle1>   I just happened across this ng today. I am curious if anyone could

jearle1>reccomend any herb that would help with my allergy to cats. My girlfriend

jearle1>really wants a cat, but she has held off on getting one on my account.

jearle1>Also, can anyone suggest some good books or websites on herbalism in

jearle1>general? Thanks in advance,

jearle1>JE

jearle1>jearle1@gl.umbc.edu

jearle1>

jearle1>

jearle1>







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: purchasing herbs

From: "Ben and Jessica Stier" <jstier1@san.rr.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:22:47 -0800

--------

Hello Everyone.



I am fairly new to this ng, but not quite as new to San Diego.  I am

wondering if anyone knows of a place to purchase herbs or find out where to

buy them.

Any help would be appreciated.



Thanks bunches,

jessica









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: purchasing herbs

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:18:21 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



Ben and Jessica Stier wrote:

> 

> Hello Everyone.

> 

> I am fairly new to this ng, but not quite as new to San Diego.  I am

> wondering if anyone knows of a place to purchase herbs or find out where to

> buy them.



Since you're in San Diego, the best place to find herbs would be In

Harmony Herbs and Spices - http://hippy.com/harmony.htm



They have a catalog online, but I recommend you stop by their store -

it's a great little shop, and the people are very friendly &

knowledgeable! They offer many dried medicinal & culinary, as well as

potted live herbs, books, tinctures, and more. :)



If you're looking for medicinal herb seeds, the best place i've found is

Horizon Herbs [mail-order] located in Oregon. Their web site is at:

http://www.chatlink.com/~herbseed



Then there's always Richters at http://www.richters.com for herb

seeds/books/etc. who is located in Canada.



Enjoy!



-Val





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Newsgroups: alt.mothers,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:36:33 -0600

--------

I am at my wits' end. I have heard of a mom who gave her children chamomile

tea to help them sleep. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this

remedy, and more importantly if anyone knew any safely issues. Chamomile

seems safe enough; I would dilute it with apple juice or something similar

to "cut" it. I have seen cut, dried chamomile at the grocery store, and so I

would simply grind it myself so I could be sure of its purity. If I don't

receive any responses I won't try it at all; I want to be sure it's safe.

But I would like to see my son not get up at 3 am for once! At this point

it's habit rather than hunger, and I really really want to find a way to

make it stop.



Thank you

Hilary









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Newsgroups: alt.mothers,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "Syn" <syndie@pacbell.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:35:34 -0800

--------

My self...I would not induce sleep in a child that age, in anyway. Have you

talked to your pediatrician? Some babies just take longer to sleep thru the

night than others. Get a doctors opinion before you try inducing sleep.



.

Hilary wrote in message <77m5s4$3fr@enews1.newsguy.com>...

>I am at my wits' end. I have heard of a mom who gave her children chamomile

>tea to help them sleep. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this

>remedy, and more importantly if anyone knew any safely issues. Chamomile

>seems safe enough; I would dilute it with apple juice or something similar

>to "cut" it. I have seen cut, dried chamomile at the grocery store, and so

I

>would simply grind it myself so I could be sure of its purity. If I don't

>receive any responses I won't try it at all; I want to be sure it's safe.

>But I would like to see my son not get up at 3 am for once! At this point

>it's habit rather than hunger, and I really really want to find a way to

>make it stop.

>

>Thank you

>Hilary

>

>









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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:57:01 -0600

--------

My doctor told me he *should* be sleeping through by now, that at this age

it's just a bad habit that he gets up. He said to let him scream it out,

which we tried last night... I say "tried". He woke at 3, I gave him a

bottle. When he was done he commenced crying. We gritted our teeth for as

long as we could stand it but he shrieks himself into a fury. Several times

he would seem to be close to sleep but then we could hear him standing at

the edge of his crib shrieking. At 4 my husband finally got up and put him

back to sleep. This is routine. I know this is off-topic now, but I just

wanted to explain *why* we feel we need a little assistance.



Hilary



Syn wrote in message ...

>My self...I would not induce sleep in a child that age, in anyway. Have you

>talked to your pediatrician? Some babies just take longer to sleep thru the

>night than others. Get a doctors opinion before you try inducing sleep.











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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: Terry <imagine.that@NOSPAMsk.sympatico.ca>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:38:07 -0600

--------

Hilary wrote:

> 

> I am at my wits' end...





Hilary,



What have you tried (or I guess at this point not tried!) to get your 8

month old to sleep? Music? A fan (white noise), toys. How long do you

let him/her cry. What do you do when you get him/her? If he/she wakes up

to eat, try just water (they may just decide it is not worth it for

water in the long run).

I went through quite a few sleepless nights with my little guy (now 10

months old).



Jennifer





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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "Syn" <syndie@pacbell.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:15:21 -0800

--------

In my opinion...I would not recommend useing anything to induce sleep in a

baby. You need to talk to the baby's pediatrician to make sure about this.

Some babies take a long time to get used to the all night sleeping. Mine are

no longer babies, but I really think the doc can tell you best. Inducing

sleep in a child this age can't be ok.



.

Hilary wrote in message <77m5s4$3fr@enews1.newsguy.com>...

>I am at my wits' end. I have heard of a mom who gave her children chamomile

>tea to help them sleep. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this

>remedy, and more importantly if anyone knew any safely issues. Chamomile

>seems safe enough; I would dilute it with apple juice or something similar

>to "cut" it. I have seen cut, dried chamomile at the grocery store, and so

I

>would simply grind it myself so I could be sure of its purity. If I don't

>receive any responses I won't try it at all; I want to be sure it's safe.

>But I would like to see my son not get up at 3 am for once! At this point

>it's habit rather than hunger, and I really really want to find a way to

>make it stop.

>

>Thank you

>Hilary

>

>









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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: Leslie Powers <gregnleslieYOURPANTS@earthlink.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:35:07 -0800

--------

I personally have tryed chamomile tea for my son when he was wound up before

bed,and it works well.  be sure not to make it too strong and cutting it with

apple juice or milk is a good idea because of the taste.  I made the mistake of

telling his Dr. about it ,and his reasoning against it was simply that not

enough is known about herbs to reccomend them.  But I think of it this

way...women,mothers,people have used herbs forever,  its just modern day society

that scares people away from treating themselves for fear of ruining the

medical  busisnes.And thats what I think about that!  : )   Really,  if your

worried about it find a herbal NG and ask there. Also I know that alt.pagan is a

good place to check,they are very nice and always welcome on topic posts ; )

leslie



Hilary wrote:



> I am at my wits' end. I have heard of a mom who gave her children chamomile

> tea to help them sleep. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this

> remedy, and more importantly if anyone knew any safely issues. Chamomile

> seems safe enough; I would dilute it with apple juice or something similar

> to "cut" it. I have seen cut, dried chamomile at the grocery store, and so I

> would simply grind it myself so I could be sure of its purity. If I don't

> receive any responses I won't try it at all; I want to be sure it's safe.

> But I would like to see my son not get up at 3 am for once! At this point

> it's habit rather than hunger, and I really really want to find a way to

> make it stop.

>

> Thank you

> Hilary













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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "Momof3kids" <momof3kidsss@yahoo.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:55:00 -0800

--------

Hillary,  I can totally relate.  My 8 month use to sleep through the night

since he was 3 months old but now he wakes up at 1:30am....I have never

heard of the tea idea.  I know that mine is because he is hungry cause with

a bottle he goes back to sleep.  Also I have notice that since he is moving

around more during the day  he needs more to eat but his attention span for

sitting and eating is not very long.



Today we tried to feed him more solids and I think he will sleep all night.

Good luck on your quest for a full nights uninterupted sleep!!!!



Momof3kidsss







>

>









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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:51:26 GMT

--------



Hilary wrote in message <77m5s4$3fr@enews1.newsguy.com>...

>I am at my wits' end. I have heard of a mom who gave her children chamomile

>tea to help them sleep. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this

>remedy, and more importantly if anyone knew any safely issues. Chamomile

>seems safe enough; I would dilute it with apple juice or something similar

>to "cut" it. I have seen cut, dried chamomile at the grocery store, and so

I

>would simply grind it myself so I could be sure of its purity. If I don't

>receive any responses I won't try it at all; I want to be sure it's safe.

>But I would like to see my son not get up at 3 am for once! At this point

>it's habit rather than hunger, and I really really want to find a way to

>make it stop.

>

>Thank you

>Hilary

>





Dear Hilary,



I am a grandma, and so it has been rather a long time since I had little

ones.   But I had a little trick that used to work very well for my children

(3 of them).   I had determined that my babies were usually hungry when they

awakened in the night.   Problem was that giving them a bottle of milk just

forms a habit, and then they wake up every night for a bottle.    I thought

that I needed to get more nutrition into the baby before bedtime so that

they would not be hungry in the middle of the night.



I took a baby bottle nipple and heated up a needle in the gas flame (hold it

with a pliers) and when it was very hot, I used it to open up the hole in

the nipple much larger.   You only need to do that once, since the hole

remains large, but that bottle is only for cereal.     Then I would make up

a bit of baby cereal with milk or formula, and give this sort of thin cereal

in the bottle for the last feeding at night.    This used to satisfy them

more than just milk, and they would sleep longer.    It worked with my three

kids, and I never had a problem after that.



Don't use the nipple with the larger hole for milk anymore, only for the

cereal.



I would be a bit hesitant about using any kind of sleep aid or herb.

Giving the baby a bit of cereal at night is harmless, and something they

could probably use anyway.



Regards,

Evelyn













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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: "spooky" <tiffany@(no-spam)tfn.net>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:50:51 -0800

--------

I second the cereal idea.  My son went from waking up every 2 hours to

sleeping from 8:30-8:30 everynight by 4 1/2 months.  What I started doing

was waking him up at 11 PM before *I* went to sleep and gave him a cereal

bottle then.  I started at 6 oz. then 5 oz. then 4oz etc, and within a month

he didn't need it at all.



It's worth a try...



-- Tiffany

The Puddies wrote in message <77mvie$e7c$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>...

>

>I took a baby bottle nipple and heated up a needle in the gas flame (hold

it

>with a pliers) and when it was very hot, I used it to open up the hole in

>the nipple much larger.   You only need to do that once, since the hole

>remains large, but that bottle is only for cereal.     Then I would make up

>a bit of baby cereal with milk or formula, and give this sort of thin

cereal

>in the bottle for the last feeding at night.    This used to satisfy them

>more than just milk, and they would sleep longer.    It worked with my

three

>kids, and I never had a problem after that.













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Subject: Re: 8 mo. old not sleeping through the night

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:55:49 +0000

--------

Tough times Hilary,



Before you get so frazzled you lose yr rag with the kid:  get a friend

or relative to baby sit and go spend the night in a hotel with your

husband - catch up on some QT for yourself.



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: myths

From: s-bowman@home.com

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:01:44 GMT

--------

I hope you can help me.  I'm looking for some info or a book, something

that would list mythical uses of herbs ie: plant rosemary by your garden

gate, plant lavendar for luck ect.  If you could provide some info it

would be really appreciated. Thanks so much.





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To: s-bowman@home.com

Subject: Re: myths

From: Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 03:48:19 GMT

--------

I know of a few that may qualify.  They are Croatian customs (or myths).  On

New Years day a clove of garlic is dipped into honey and eaten.  It is said

this will bring one health (now there is a surprise!) and wealth for the

coming year.  Another is the custom of pinning a sprig of rosemary onto the

jackets or blouses of everyone attending a wedding as  symbol long life and

prosperity for the newlyweds.

Bob



s-bowman@home.com wrote:



> I hope you can help me.  I'm looking for some info or a book, something

> that would list mythical uses of herbs ie: plant rosemary by your garden

> gate, plant lavendar for luck ect.  If you could provide some info it

> would be really appreciated. Thanks so much.











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Subject: Re: myths

From: nyts@dorsai.org (Bart Lidofsky)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 18:47:12 GMT

--------

In article <5351-369FD796-84@newsd-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Jean wrote:

>You might check the library for the book - Magic & Medicine of Plants

>published by Readers Digest. It has some very interesting myths,

>individual herbs, uses in various countries, NA Indian folklore, etc.

>One I have used often is that mullien is the first  disposable diaper --

>the Indians used the large, soft leaves for diapers.  Neat - huh?



	Note, however, that the editors and publishers of Readers' Digest

buy into the myth that the primary purpose of the AMA is to protect

people's health.



-- 

	Bart Lidofsky

	Systems Administrator

	New York Theosophical Society

	nyts@dorsai.org (official)

	bartl@sprynet.com (personal)







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Subject: BAD HAIR CUT...HELP hair growth

From: "Powell G and J" <gregandjamie@NOSPAM.coastalnet.com>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:26:27 -0500

--------

i got a VERY bad hair cut back in Nov. and i really want some hair back.

Does anyone know if there is a herb that can help me and how do i do it?

thanks so much. had hair passed my shoulders now (when cut) to my ears.

Hurry my neck is cold, ha,ha









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Subject: Re: BAD HAIR CUT...HELP hair growth

From: Janine Blue <jblue@columbus.rr.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:27:08 -0500

--------

Sorry you got a bad hair cut. Being a barber, all I can tell you is that

hair grows " a month. Try finding someone that you can trust and stick

with them. You will be happier in the long run





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Subject: ginseng

From: "Marty Morgan" <mmorgan0@hyden.tds.net>

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:34:04 -0500

--------

can anyone tell me where I can sell about 17 ilb of ginseng ?



marty









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Subject: Re: ginseng

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:50:29 GMT

--------

Hi Marty,

Questions: (1) Where are you?,

(2) How much would it cost to ship?, (3) How much do you want for it?, (4) What

form is it in?, (5) What kind is it?, (6) How fresh is it?  Let me know, maybe

we'll do a deal :-)





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Subject: Re: ginseng

From: agroforestry@my-dejanews.com

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:55:23 GMT

--------

In article <77mg5e$hb1@news2.tds.net>,

  "Marty Morgan" <mmorgan0@hyden.tds.net> wrote:

> can anyone tell me where I can sell about 17 ilb of ginseng ?

>

> marty

>

Marty, You can contact me at Mountain Top.

http://member.spree.com/sip/ginseng

Thanks, SteveH



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Subject: NOW...

From: "Cindy Adams" <rcadams@tds.net>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:39:27 -0500

--------

I'm looking for a site where a named brand herb mixture is ..It's called NOW

and they have a headache formula that works for a friend but he can no

longer find it..any suggestions? Many thanks to all that can help(or try

to!!)We believe it's in Illinois..thanks a million:-)









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To: Cindy Adams <rcadams@tds.net>

Subject: Re: NOW...

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:51:09 +0000

--------

Cindy Adams wrote:

> 

> I'm looking for a site where a named brand herb mixture is ..It's called NOW

> and they have a headache formula that works for a friend but he can no

> longer find it..any suggestions? Many thanks to all that can help(or try

> to!!)We believe it's in Illinois..thanks a million:-)





Could be a confusion with the US company called Now Foods. 



Nick





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Subject: Fibromyalgia- Help

From: "Ed" <eddy@kwic.com>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 05:51:29 GMT

--------

Is there anyone familiar with this condition and can honestly advise what

works best for this........pauline







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Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia- Help

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 15 Jan 1999 08:54:21 GMT

--------



Ed wrote in message <01be404b$0827bf20$1d3a96cd@edloncke>...

>Is there anyone familiar with this condition and can honestly advise what

>works best for this........pauline

>



Anti-inflammatories, getting a good nights sleep, mild exercise, are among

the best.

Thyroid function is somehow often involved too.





There is a fibromyalgia support newsgroup.   Check it out, the people there

are very kind and supportive.



Regards,

Evelyn









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Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia- Help

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:40:08 -0800

--------

You;re more than welcome to visit the fibromyalgia NG but there is not a lot

of herbal knowledge there I'm afraid.  But they are wonderful folks and the

support is helpful so check them out. Most docs who treat fibro are big into

antidepresants.  NSAIDS work well for some folks but don't do a thing for

others except damage the lining of the stomach.  Allopathic medicine doesn't

do so well for chronic illness....



Some things that might help:  1. Diet.  I found my symptoms got better when

I stopped eating meat. Took a while    2. St John's Wort  Helps with

depression and pain. I use the tincture orally and the oil topically   2.

Malic Acid/ Magnesium  Helps cell metabolism/KREBS cycle function and may

help oxygenation of the tissue     3. Hydration  lots of fluids to flush out

the toxins     4. Massage and chiropractic work    5. Valerian root,

skullcap, passionflower, kava for sleep.  6. A good attitude.



Be glad to discuss more via email.

Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia- Help

From: Liz Hanson <liz@zylanid.demon.co.uk>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:29:40 +0000

--------

In article <%dKn2.15896$W_.8894407@news1.teleport.com>, ma pickle <mapickle@te

leport.com> writes

>

>Some things that might help:  1. Diet.  I 

>found my symptoms got better when

>I stopped eating meat. Took a while    2. St 

>John's Wort  Helps with

>depression and pain. I use the tincture 

>orally and the oil topically   2.

>Malic Acid/ Magnesium  Helps cell 

>metabolism/KREBS cycle function and may

>help oxygenation of the tissue     3. 

>Hydration  lots of fluids to flush out

>the toxins     4. Massage and chiropractic 

>work    5. Valerian root,

>skullcap, passionflower, kava for sleep.  6. 

>A good attitude.

>

>

>

7. (possibly, and according to a "scare sheet" that I haven't quite decided on

yet) If you drink diet soda, or eat anything containing aspartame, give it up.

-- 

Liz Hanson





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Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia- Help

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:43:43 -0800

--------

Here's a link to my friend Diana's page

http://hometown.aol.com/dgsaba/index.html with lots of good fibro info.



Ingrid









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Subject: grow youre own???

From: "Andre Bakker" <polm2000@polm2000.demon.nl>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:45:41 +0100

--------

can i grow kava kava (awa) at home indoors i mean???

like skunk i life in holland!!









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Subject: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: ntbandit@globec.com.au

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:12:29 GMT

--------

g'day all,



does anyone have any ideas on how i can cheaply preserve a large crop

of hot chilli peppers for future culinary use?



this is by far my best crop and we are unable to use them as fast as

they mature.



thank you to one and all for all assistance



len

- -

happy gardening



<http://www.globec.com.au/~ntbandit/>



alt' em address #1 <gardenlen@hotmail.com>



alt' em address #2 <ntbandit@my-dejanews.com>



"old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill"





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Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: herblady@newsguy.comx (Rastapoodle)

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:03:25 GMT

--------

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:12:29 GMT, ntbandit@globec.com.au wrote:

>g'day all,

>does anyone have any ideas on how i can cheaply preserve a large crop

>of hot chilli peppers for future culinary use?

>

>this is by far my best crop and we are unable to use them as fast as

>they mature.

>

>thank you to one and all for all assistance

>

>len



The best method is to chop them in half, and immerse them in white

wine or rice vinegar. Keep the jar tightly closed in the refrigerator.

I did this with a big crop of Scotch Bonnets in 1996 and I'm still

using them, haven't even had to use the peppers yet, just spoon off

some of the vinegar. It's great, it's like having an non-ending supply

of the *fresh* tasting pepper. If I had dried them, the flavor would

have diminished.

*                                                                     *

Anya  {{{*_*}}} http://extra.newsguy.com/~herblady 

Bob Marley sez --  "Ya gotta lively up yourself"

**********************************************************

"Nature and Nature's law lay hid in night;

  God said "Let Tesla Be" and all was light."

*                                                                     *







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Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:16:47 GMT

--------

ntbandit@globec.com.au wrote:



>does anyone have any ideas on how i can cheaply preserve a large crop

>of hot chilli peppers for future culinary use?



Let them completely ripen, harvest and dry them in the sun.



To preserve them "fresh", you can pickle them or freeze them

(blanch in boiling water, then freeze).



Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:47:39 -0600

--------

No prob. at all. Just let them dry, on the plant or off, it doesn't matter.

Put in a mesh bag or any other container, or crush and put in a jar. Not

much will munch on them (except people), so you don't have to preserve them.

We have some a couple of years old, still just as hot as ever.











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Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: "Boadicea" <jesslea@rjac.clara.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:44:20 GMT

--------

My aunt and uncle live in Texas, and my uncle is really fond of growing

chili pitines *apologies for my spelling* and chili piquines.  They are

about the size of a pea, but are far hotter than jalapenos, but not quite

like jabaneros.  The most common way we've been told to preserve them is

either to freeze them (either whole, or chopped in the blender) or to dry

them.  Normally we'd string them up with a needle and thread and hang them

to dry.



In reference to the comment about most things leaving them alone...that's

true, but one thing that may get to them is birds.  A lot of peppers grow

wild in that area because the birds eat them and distribute the seeds.  He's

had LOADS of problems with birds, but other than that....you're right!  Most

things won't touch them!









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:34:58 +0000

--------

ntbandit@globec.com.au wrote:

> 

> g'day all,

> 

> does anyone have any ideas on how i can cheaply preserve a large crop

> of hot chilli peppers for future culinary use?

> 

> this is by far my best crop and we are unable to use them as fast as

> they mature.





Jammy basket...  I had a lousy crop that only half ripened before the

first UK frosts did for my plants (they may even all be dead, not sure,

they were new from seed last spring so no experience...)



Anyway, after - ooh - a good ten minutes of harvesting, the fruits of my

long months of watering and loving attention were washed and stuck into

a (small) jar of cider vinegar along with half a doz peeled cloves of

garlic - so the jar didn't look too empty.  They taste good though, and

I look forward to savouring their piquant delights well into the first

half of February, providing I take it easy and only make very mild

salsa.



Did anyone say 1.20 for a huge jar in the supermarket?



ho hum



Nick of the Northern Wastes





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:21:12 GMT

--------

Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com> wrote:





>Jammy basket...  I had a lousy crop that only half ripened before the

>first UK frosts did for my plants (they may even all be dead, not sure,

>they were new from seed last spring so no experience...)



  In your climate (assuming the usual English dismal wet, but not

40 below, climate) you need to start them indoors to give them a

head start, or outdoors under cloches.  If you cover them at

night they can be put out early and left out later than if they

are undefended.  On the south side of a wall would be best.



  One simple method for frost protecting is to place a gallon

plastic jug full of water (or two) next to each plant.  During

the day the jug soaks up heat from the sun.  When you cover the

plants at night, the stored heat fends off the frost.

  Another easy method is to run a string of those tiny outdoor

Christmas lights in loops around the plants.  Turn the lights on

at night after you cover the plants.  The tiny amount of heat

they produce will be trapped under the cover and fend off frost. 





>Did anyone say 1.20 for a huge jar in the supermarket?

  But it was the experience, right? 

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers?

From: "loki" <loki@inlink.com>

Date: 18 Jan 1999 18:37:50 GMT

--------

Tsu Dho Nimh <abacaxi@hotmail.com> wrote in article 

> 

>   In your climate (assuming the usual English dismal wet, but not

> 40 below, climate) you need to start them indoors to give them a

> head start, or outdoors under cloches.  If you cover them at

> night they can be put out early and left out later than if they

> are undefended.  On the south side of a wall would be best.

> 

>   One simple method for frost protecting is to place a gallon

> plastic jug full of water (or two) next to each plant.  During

> the day the jug soaks up heat from the sun.  When you cover the

> plants at night, the stored heat fends off the frost.

>   Another easy method is to run a string of those tiny outdoor

> Christmas lights in loops around the plants.  Turn the lights on

> at night after you cover the plants.  The tiny amount of heat

> they produce will be trapped under the cover and fend off frost. 



Peppers are long season plants.  It takes the entire season where I live to

get a ripe crop and our season starts in April and ends in October.  I

generally start getting good stuff in September.



All of the advice above is excellent.  I would add that peppers are tender

perennials.  I should think that as mild as the winters are in most of the

UK you should be able to get them through the winter.  After that, you'll

have better luck with your next year's crop though it will still be one

that needs a lot of protection.  Peppers love very hot weather - the sort

you don't really get in the UK.  They also love the sun - another item in

short supply there.



You might consider growing them as container plants.  They are heavy

feeders though so I'd pot them in half potting soil and half

compost/manure.  This way you could put them in a greenhouse or bring them

inside for the winter.  



Loki





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Subject: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: pattimcmul@aol.com (Pattimcmul)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 16:21:13 GMT

--------

I just purchased ephedra and ma huang mixure in order to lose some weight.  Can

I take this along with zoloft?





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:33:44 -0800

--------

I'd be careful about mixing ma huang with zoloft, and sorry to disappoint

you but it probably won't do much for your weight loss but make you jittery.

Better to watch what you eat and exercise, go for walks. That will help your

weght and you depression.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: bella@jelliclecat.com

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:40:49 GMT

--------

Patti wrote:

>I just purchased ephedra and ma huang mixure in order to lose some weight.  Can

>I take this along with zoloft?



Ummm.....you've got a pretty lethal combination there.  Ma Huang is

also known as "chinese cocaine" and contains ephedra in it's natural

form.  I use it in very small doses to help out with my asthma when my

chest is really tight....but wouldn't recommend it mixed together like

that.

It's not good for the heart and taken in large doses makes you jittery

and bitchy.  I'm sure mixing it with zoloft would not be a good idea

at all.  Is there anyway you can take it back for a refund?!

Good nutrition and exercise is still the best way to loose weight.

peace

bella





"What you have been in the past is not the issue,

It's what you choose in this moment that counts."

-Debra St. Claire





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: jwynn0706@aol.com (Jwynn0706)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:50:35 GMT

--------



i take 250 zoloft and 150 effexor and have not had a problem in using

ephedra.it does make you jittery but it really helps the appetite for me.

you will find much better answers to your questions in the diet newsgroups...

jwynn0706@aol.com





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:36:05 GMT

--------

What is Zoloft?  If there are any forms of caffeine in it, it may add a feeling

of the 'jitters' when used in conjunction with Ma Huang and Ephedra.  Both

these herbs can produce other symptoms as well.  So, use them with caution and

start out small and work up.  Err on the side of your safety.  If you can let

me know what Zoloft is, I can produce a better response for you.  Good Luck !!!





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:21:35 -0800

--------

Depends on why you are taking the Zoloft.  If it is for anxiety, adding the uppers

will probably counter the Zoloft.  If it is for depression, they may help.  Most

anxiety sufferers have long ago given up caffeine or most other stimulants.  Body

reacts too strongly to them.



Gordon



Pattimcmul wrote:



> I just purchased ephedra and ma huang mixure in order to lose some weight.  Can

> I take this along with zoloft?







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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: godesstr@aol.com (GodesStr)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 07:03:39 GMT

--------

>I'm not familiar with zoloft, although I've heard of it.

>If it is an MAO inhibitor, you can't use ephedra/ma huang.





Zoloft is not a MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor).  MAOI's are an older class

of antidepressants.  Zoloft however is a SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitor).  Now before taking ephedra/ma huang I would be sure to ask the

doctor that prescribes you the Zoloft.  I was on Zoloft (now on Effexor) for

about  four months myself so I am familiar with the effects of the medication. 

I am fortunate to have a doctor that believes in herbs and allows me to be in

control over my treatment.  If you do find that your doctor is not open to the

herbal additions I would personally consider seeking out another doctor.



Ephedra/ma huang are is not necessarly going to help you loose weight.  It

might give you more energy (or make you jittery) but it won't help with

weightloss.  I have heard that Chitosan can help with weightloss but I am not

completely familiar with that herb.



Good luck!





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:54:58 -0600

--------

GodesStr <godesstr@aol.com> wrote:

>

>Ephedra/ma huang are is not necessarly going to help you loose weight.  It

>might give you more energy (or make you jittery) but it won't help with

>weightloss.  I have heard that Chitosan can help with weightloss but I am not

>completely familiar with that herb.



A Medline search would find dozens of studies showing that ephedrine

*does* help with weightloss, particularly when used in a 1:10 ratio with

caffeine.  The jittery effects wear off in a few days, but the

thermogenic effects do not.  This ratio can be found in products

like Thermodrene, Xenadrene, and Twinlab's Ripped Fuel, Diet Fuel and

Metabolift.   



Chitosan is not an herb.  It is a complete waste of money for an expensive

fiber supplement made of shrimp shells.  It claims to bind fat, but

it would take about 3 dozen pills to trap the fat of one average fast

food meal.



-- 

  jamie  (mjwm@austin.rr.com)



  		"There's a seeker born every minute."





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Subject: Re: ephedra and ma huang mix

From: grzabella@hotmail.com (bella)

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:59:20 GMT

--------

>A Medline search would find dozens of studies showing that ephedrine

>*does* help with weightloss, particularly when used in a 1:10 ratio with

>caffeine.  The jittery effects wear off in a few days, but the

>thermogenic effects do not.  This ratio can be found in products

>like Thermodrene, Xenadrene, and Twinlab's Ripped Fuel, Diet Fuel and

>Metabolift.   



This may be the case.....but neither ephedrine nor caffeine is a good

health choice.  You can't continually take these without some sort of

ill side effect.

Healthier eating habits and exercise aren't harmful and it's been

proven that weight stays off when approached from this angle.

Peace

bella



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Subject: female difficulties/sexual problems

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:52:32 -0600

--------

Is there an herb to be taken internally that might help equalize menstrual

cycles and decrease pain during sex? The condition is a backward-tilted

uterus that occurs in about 25% of women. I am looking for something that is

generally good for uterine or cyclical problems, something to supplement

hormones such as the Pill.



Thank you

Hilary









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Subject: Re: female difficulties/sexual problems

From: "Susan Wix" <halo100@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 17 Jan 1999 03:18:19 GMT

--------

I have found increased progesterone can really help regulate the cycles.

There are natural progesterone products available.

Susan





Hilary wrote in message <77nrhj$i4g@enews2.newsguy.com>...

>Is there an herb to be taken internally that might help equalize menstrual

>cycles and decrease pain during sex? The condition is a backward-tilted

>uterus that occurs in about 25% of women. I am looking for something that

is

>generally good for uterine or cyclical problems, something to supplement

>hormones such as the Pill.

>

>Thank you

>Hilary

>

>









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Subject: any wheatgrass growers here? 

From: sunmachin@aol.comdrill (Sunmachin)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:24:57 GMT

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Any  wheat grass  growers here?  



I am interested in growing it for my own use. I have been buying it frozen for

the past few months and it is expensive per week.  



I would like to hear about experiences from people who grow it for their own

personal use. I don't want to make any costly mistakes.  '



1. Where do you get your seeds? 

2. Do they need lots of sunlight or shade? 

3. Best type of soil? 





I have checked out some sites and they seem to be advertisements in disguise

for companies.  



any help would be appreciated. Reply here, or to SunMAchin@aol.com, thanks





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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here? 

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:31:41 GMT

--------

If you have a 'health food' store in your area, they may have a 'starter' kit

to do the wheatgrass thing.  I have seen them and if I come across another I

will give the info to you.  Good Luck !!!





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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:51:24 GMT

--------

On 15 Jan 1999 19:24:57 GMT, sunmachin@aol.comdrill (Sunmachin) wrote:



>1. Where do you get your seeds? 



My local health food shop.



>2. Do they need lots of sunlight or shade? 



I've not found them to be too fussy. I'm in Northern England - wet and

dull.



>3. Best type of soil? 



Again - I've not had any problems with my soil. It's not specially

treated with anything. 



Steve

--

Stephen Wolstenholme

Neural Network Shareware

http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk





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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: sunmachin@aol.comdrill (Sunmachin)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:50:04 GMT

--------

thanks for the responses. I haven't seen any starter kits in the healthfood

store around here, probably because they sell the stuff and would not want me

growing it. So, I'll have to check around more.  



Would I get the same benefits if I just ate the  grass like in a salad, rather

then juicing it?   I don't have a juicer or anything. 



Plus,  I have read that I should not drink grapefruit juice near the time that

I have my wheat grass,  have any of you heard this? 





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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: "Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H." <skip@netins.net>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:05:21 -0600

--------

I personally grow wheatgrass inside, beside my computer.  I have flats that

are 2 inches deep by 12 in by 8 in.  I tried using only vermiculite and

pearlite but found this soil too lite when it came time to harvest.  Now I

mix about half pearlite with half potting soil.  I use the leftover hard red

winter whaet that I soak to make Rejuvelac.  Rinse really well and plant

very shallow.  Mine has always grown fine with just a 2 foot flouro light

about a foot above. I'm afraid that you would have to eat *alot* of grass

everyday for optimum benefits.  Do you have a champion juicer?  That is what

I use.

Best of luck,

Leslie Adams, M.H.

Sunmachin wrote in message <19990115155004.07345.00001699@ng120.aol.com>...

>thanks for the responses. I haven't seen any starter kits in the healthfood

>store around here, probably because they sell the stuff and would not want

me

>growing it. So, I'll have to check around more.

>

>Would I get the same benefits if I just ate the  grass like in a salad,

rather

>then juicing it?   I don't have a juicer or anything.

>

>Plus,  I have read that I should not drink grapefruit juice near the time

that

>I have my wheat grass,  have any of you heard this?









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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: silmarin@aol.com (Silmarin)

Date: 17 Jan 1999 20:08:16 GMT

--------

>Plus,  I have read that I should not drink grapefruit juice near the time

>that

>I have my wheat grass,  have any of you heard this? 

>

Grapefruit juice is acidic -- too much so for the living enzymes present in

fresh wheatgrass. You would definintely lose some health benefit from drinking

grapefruit juice too close before or after the wheatgrass, or mixing them (or

any hot or acidic drink, fot that matter). 

And the red winter wheat berries are in my opinion the best sprouters. But

soak!









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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:14:34 -0600

--------

Wheatgrass is Agropyron spp., a genus that includes Quack Grass. However a

lot of the species are grown for hay and pasture in various parts of the

country. Might be your local County Agricultural agent could suggest a

source of seed, or ask a feed supply store. I wouldn't worry too much about

conditions if grown outstide - lots of sun and not too much water. You might

even find someone in your area who grows it for hay, and could buy it from

him, a lot cheaper than in a health food store.









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Subject: Re: any wheatgrass growers here?

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:17:40 GMT

--------

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:14:34 -0600, "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>Wheatgrass is Agropyron spp., a genus that includes Quack Grass. However a

>lot of the species are grown for hay and pasture in various parts of the

>country. Might be your local County Agricultural agent could suggest a

>source of seed, or ask a feed supply store. I wouldn't worry too much about

>conditions if grown outstide - lots of sun and not too much water. You might

>even find someone in your area who grows it for hay, and could buy it from

>him, a lot cheaper than in a health food store.



Wheat (the grain) is Triticum sp.

Wheatgrass is the sprouts from said wheat. 

Over here it's easiest to go into a health food store, check the whole grain

section and get a kilo or so of wheat.



Henriette



--

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          -+- check out my picture pages - lots of changes -+-

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Subject: Collagen Plus?

From: KJM <kjmoran@nortel.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:41:05 -0600

--------

Has anyone tried this for weight loss/skin firming?  I heard something

on the radio about but can't find it.  Thanks.







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Subject: Another menopause Q/Dream Pillow (was: What would cause a burning sens..?)

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 15 Jan 1999 20:45:23 GMT

--------

> Fri, Jan 15, 1999 03:56 EST

>"The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net> offered:



>It sounds pretty much to me like your friend is having a hot flash when that

>happens.   She should take some motherwort extract a couple of times a day

>when it gets annoying.    I would suggest that she get Susun Weed's book

>called "The Menopausal Years the wise woman way"   It was the best help I

>found.



Well DUH!  Now I feel dumb ;-)  Thanks for the info!



Not having gone through menopause (yet - sigh!), I'm finding

it difficult to offer advice to her...



She does have Susan Weed's book - and I also gave her

"Back to Eden" (I think that's the name of it anyway!)



As an Herbal Dabbler, I find that a lot of people come to me

for advice.  While I would never presume to diagnose or

prescribe - I *am* in the habit of trying to provide my friends

with the tools (i.e. books) for their own pursuit of health 

through natural means...



I perceive that my friend has two main issues to deal with 

right now - Menopause and High Blood Pressure.  I am 

assuming that her doc took her off the estrogen in order to 

get her blood pressure under control...



Unfortunately, she is also a kind of "Hyper" type of person

who is inclined to worry herself into a frenzy (okay, maybe

that's a *slight* exaggeration) whenever she "feels funny."



I've chatted with her about this and suggested meditation/

personal quiet time.  And I've shared some meditation 

techniques with her...  I've strongly suggested that she get

into the habit of consciously  banishing her negative thoughts

when she begins to feel mild anxiety (the theme seems to be

" I feel funny - I bet my BP is going up..."  Then she tests her 

BP and sure enough, it's up! "Oh God...  It's getting worse!" 

...and onward until she begins to fear that she's going to have 

a stroke...  You get the picture.)



Anyhow - to make a long story short :-)



I have recommended first and foremost that she work with

her doctors and make sure they are aware of her condition

as well as any herbal remedies she is pursuing...



I've also suggested that she read up on Kava Kava to see if

that can help with her anxiety.

 

Lastly, I think I want to make her a Dream Pillow that she 

can use for meditation.  So...  After this really long post 

(sorry!) my question is:  What herbs would you recommend

that I incorporate into the dream pillow?



Obviously the objective here is "calming" and I am thinking

of using lavender flowers.  But are there any other herbs/

scents that would be particularly effective for calming the

"hormonally distraught?" ;-)



I believe that the Dream Pillow will probably be more of a

"Security Blanket" than anything else - but I really think she

needs a "tool" to aid her in her relaxation.  And, I should

reiterate that all of this is in conjunction with her working

with her doctor to make sure that there aren't other 

biological concerns that need to be addressed...



Thanks for your patience in reading this - and thanks in 

advance for the info and advice :-)



QT***

m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

San Francisco Bay

Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qtboats.htm







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Subject: Re: Another menopause Q/Dream Pillow (was: What would cause a burning sens..?)

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 16 Jan 1999 03:54:56 GMT

--------



IMQTPI wrote in message <19990115154523.23173.00000966@ng-ce1.aol.com>...

>> Fri, Jan 15, 1999 03:56 EST

>>"The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net> offered:

>

>>It sounds pretty much to me like your friend is having a hot flash when

that

>>happens.   She should take some motherwort extract a couple of times a day

>>when it gets annoying.    I would suggest that she get Susun Weed's book

>>called "The Menopausal Years the wise woman way"   It was the best help I

>>found.

>

>Well DUH!  Now I feel dumb ;-)  Thanks for the info!



(chuckle)





>Not having gone through menopause (yet - sigh!), I'm finding

>it difficult to offer advice to her...





Not surprising.   Before I hit the big change I could have never imagined

what a pain in the butt it could turn out to be.   Having considered myself

a "liberated" and "modern" kind of woman, it astonished me that meno could

hit me so hard.    I think that it is because of the many years of taking

heavy estrogen based birth control pills that so many of us from that

generation are having a tougher time with some of the symptoms.





>She does have Susan Weed's book - and I also gave her

>"Back to Eden" (I think that's the name of it anyway!)





That is great.....



>As an Herbal Dabbler, I find that a lot of people come to me

>for advice.  While I would never presume to diagnose or

>prescribe - I *am* in the habit of trying to provide my friends

>with the tools (i.e. books) for their own pursuit of health

>through natural means...





A very worthy pursuit!



>I perceive that my friend has two main issues to deal with

>right now - Menopause and High Blood Pressure.  I am

>assuming that her doc took her off the estrogen in order to

>get her blood pressure under control...





Then she and I have something in common.   I got the best results from

taking 25 mg of DHEA Naturade brand time release daily, and relief from the

other symptoms with taking Motherwort extract for the hot flashes and to

calm my nervous energy.



Meditation helped a lot too.   I decided against estrogen replacement for a

variety of reasons, not the least of which are animal cruelty reasons, but

also because of a history of breast cancer in the family and also very

dense, cystic breasts.   All things considered, I just decided that anything

which is produced with such animal suffering, and adds to my risks, just is

not worth it all.    The DHEA and motherwort, gave me the best relief.





>Unfortunately, she is also a kind of "Hyper" type of person

>who is inclined to worry herself into a frenzy (okay, maybe

>that's a *slight* exaggeration) whenever she "feels funny."

>I've chatted with her about this and suggested meditation/

>personal quiet time.  And I've shared some meditation

>techniques with her...  I've strongly suggested that she get

>into the habit of consciously  banishing her negative thoughts

>when she begins to feel mild anxiety (the theme seems to be

>" I feel funny - I bet my BP is going up..."  Then she tests her

>BP and sure enough, it's up! "Oh God...  It's getting worse!"

>...and onward until she begins to fear that she's going to have

>a stroke...  You get the picture.)





It sounds like you have given her some good advice.



>Anyhow - to make a long story short :-)

>

>I have recommended first and foremost that she work with

>her doctors and make sure they are aware of her condition

>as well as any herbal remedies she is pursuing...

>

>I've also suggested that she read up on Kava Kava to see if

>that can help with her anxiety.



I did not do so well with Kava Kava.   I found it made me sort of headachy

and nearly hallucinogenic.   I did not like the feelings I got from it, and

it also gave me rather vivid dreams.   This on very small amounts.   Thus I

decided to not use it.   Got better results from Scullcap and Passion flower

myself.    Neither one as good as Motherwort.   But I have heard that Gotu

Kola has also had some calming effects in menopausal women.  Everyone is

different..... she may find the Kava Kava is fine........





>Lastly, I think I want to make her a Dream Pillow that she

>can use for meditation.  So...  After this really long post

>(sorry!) my question is:  What herbs would you recommend

>that I incorporate into the dream pillow?





Well, since aromatherapy and the like is not really my forte, I would not be

inclined to suggest anything here, but I am sure that someone else in the

newsgroup might be better qualified to suggest something.



Off topic I know, but I would suggest that she get a necklace of turquoise

beads and wear them so they touch the skin.   Very absorbent of nervous

energy and soothing and healing.    Another suggestion would be Lapis

Lazuli.    Seems to give off an "in control" and focused kind of energy.

Touching the skin is the key word here.



>Obviously the objective here is "calming" and I am thinking

>of using lavender flowers.  But are there any other herbs/

>scents that would be particularly effective for calming the

>"hormonally distraught?" ;-)

>

>I believe that the Dream Pillow will probably be more of a

>"Security Blanket" than anything else - but I really think she

>needs a "tool" to aid her in her relaxation.  And, I should

>reiterate that all of this is in conjunction with her working

>with her doctor to make sure that there aren't other

>biological concerns that need to be addressed...

>

>Thanks for your patience in reading this - and thanks in

>advance for the info and advice :-)



I would suggest that a daily meditation would be very helpful, with a kind

of quick meditation on a mantra or something like that during periods of

especially nervous energy.    I am a Tibetan Buddhist, we have all sorts of

wonderful meditations.



Menopause is not a joke.   There are times when you honestly feel like you

are not yourself.   You sometimes feel like you are almost losing your mind.

You are more sensitive, have mood swings, cry easily, get angry easily,

sometimes feel the need to hibernate and avoid contact with friends, drive

your spouse, your family nuts, and that is BESIDES all the physical junk.



You get weird periods, sometimes they stop altogether for a brief few months

then come back with a vengeance.   You never know what it will do until it

finally stops.    Then you get the hot flashes that keep you up all night,

soaking your bedclothes and leaving you shaking, wide awake and later

freezing from the sweat.    For some, like me they became nearly unbearable,

innumerable and crushingly powerful.   I felt like I could not breathe and

like was going to explode.   Not everyone gets them that bad though.



So emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually there are powerful

things going on in your body.   The answer is not to fight it, try to "cure"

it, or try to fake it out with too much medication or to try to maintain

reproductive levels of estrogen, when your body no longer wants it.    I

found that when I finally decided to let my body adapt to its new state

naturally, it was the best.



My energy has returned, my hot flashes are very seldom now, and the periods

have stopped for about 3 years now.. (thank GOODness for that!!!)  I have

found my "center" again, and clarity and sanity has returned.



Tell your friend to ride it out, don't fight it, and the most important

advice I can possibly give is this;



Decide what kind of an old lady you want to be......... Do you want to be

one of those pitiful things who run to plastic surgeons, taking hormones,

running to the gym and fighting inevitable maturity, fearing the clock, and

trying to be some warmed over version of what they were at 40?



Or do you want to be known for your wisdom, your compassion, your kindness,

your knowledge, your generosity of spirit, the possessor of a beauty that

transcends age and wrinkles?   I want to be the best that I can, take good

care of myself, but not to the point of denying my age.   Although I look

younger than I am, I never lie about my age.



Once you decide what will be the path for your post menopausal life, it all

gets really easy.   Sort of like when you went through puberty...... Just

when you had it all figured out how to be a great kid, suddenly this

whopping change came over you.   Well menopause is very like that.   You are

no longer the sexy breeding female, but instead the wise old crone, the

keeper of the wisdom, the one who provides the balance and the clarity, the

spiritual one.



I realize that not every person will agree with my comments here, but that

is how it went for me.   I can only speak for myself, but I found Susun

Weeds experience to somehow relate to what I felt.



Best Regards to you and to your friend....



Evelyn









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Subject: Herbal combinations safe?

From: "peter platis" <Polemistis@email.msn.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:45:37 -0500

--------



         I would like to know if the following herbs taken together are

safe:



       1. Damiana

        2. Yohimbe

       3. Schizandra

       4. Avena Sativa

       5. Muira puama



                    Thank you









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Facial Hair...

From: "Cindy Adams" <rcadams@tds.net>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:37:28 -0500

--------

Does anybody know of anything for getting rid of facial hair? I'm not

talking a little musdash here..a beard is more like it ..I shave

everyday..any ideas? Does not make me feel very feminine to have this

problem...thanks everybody:-)









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Subject: Re: Facial Hair...

From: bpholm@webtv.net

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:36:01 -0600 (CST)

--------

I am a female and have the same problem. There are hair removing creams

on the market which are easier on the skin than shaving. Although it

seems they have to be used very often. If someone knows of another

alternative, please tell us.







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Subject: Re: Facial Hair...

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:23:54 -0800

--------

If the hair is black and heavy, the new laser or epi-light treamtments

will probably work.  They are fast, painless and expensive.  If the hair

is soft fuzz they probably won't work.  I think this technology has been

around about 2 years.  Good luck.



Gordon Held



Cindy Adams wrote:



> Does anybody know of anything for getting rid of facial hair? I'm not

> talking a little musdash here..a beard is more like it ..I shave

> everyday..any ideas? Does not make me feel very feminine to have this

> problem...thanks everybody:-)







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Subject: Re: Facial Hair...

From: Barbara <anon@netbird.net>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:32:25 -0500

--------

No, sorry, other than what you're doing.  But have you had this

looked at by a doctor?  Could be one of the signs of PCO,

polycystic ovarian snydrome.  Hope you don't have it, but

here's a link that gives some info and more links.



http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/cpwagner/index.html



Good luck.



Cindy Adams wrote:



> Does anybody know of anything for getting rid of facial hair? I'm not

> talking a little musdash here..a beard is more like it ..I shave

> everyday..any ideas? Does not make me feel very feminine to have this

> problem...thanks everybody:-)







--

Barbara



I am tired, I am weary, I could sleep for one thousand years...









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Facial Hair...

From: "jean" <vitranjx@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:13:33 -0600

--------

facial hair, male patterned baldness, mid body obesity, infertility,

irregluar periods?



these are classic symtoms of poly cystic ovaries....I know, I've got

it...not easy to deal with but there is also a good newsgroup for this

called alt.support.pco



good luck....



jean









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Subject: Re: Facial Hair...

From: jmarnell@SPAMBLOCKER.netcomuk.co.uk

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:32:09 GMT

--------

On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:56:18, "WL Sakowski"

<WL.Sakowski@gratisnet.com> wrote:



>When I noticed the first hint of such a problem, my doctor (yes,

>my *doctor!  :) told me to "get a bottle or chelated *Zinc*, at



Why *chelated* zinc? Does it do something ordinary zinc would not?

Also, this same question was asked in here rather recently, and

someone recommended eating bananas. (I don't believe they ever said

how many you should eat daily though.) So would potassium possibly

have an effect on this too?



GCM





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Subject: HERBAL SCHOOLING?

From: "ihutson" <ihutson@netcom.ca>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:05:40 -0500

--------

I was wondering if anyone on this NG could help.  My sister and I live in

Toronto, and she has been interested in pursuing a career in herbal

medicines.  I wanted to find some private or public schools that she could

contact to find out further info.  Does someone know of any places to begin?



Thanks

ihutson@netcom.ca









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: HERBAL SCHOOLING?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 16 Jan 1999 21:41:30 GMT

--------

>I was wondering if anyone on this NG could help.  My sister and I live in

>Toronto, and she has been interested in pursuing a career in herbal

>medicines.  I wanted to find some private or public schools that she could

>contact to find out further info.  Does someone know of any places to begin?

>

>Thanks

>ihutson@netcom.ca



Susun Weed

Wise Woman Center

PO Box 64

Woodstock, NY 12498







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To: VWinter <vwinter@aol.com>

Subject: Re: HERBAL SCHOOLING?

From: <osha@iname.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:08:52 -0700

--------

Greetings,



I saw the subject of herbal schooling and thought I would chime in....

There is a school in Albuquerque, NM that offers a Bachelor of Science

degree in Herbal Medicine.  It is the only school that offers a degree in

herbalism that I know of.  There are lots of fly by night correspondence

schools that offer certifications, but not Bachelor of Science degrees.

It is called the National College of Phytotherapy.  The phone number is

(505) 452-3468.  I am a student there and the education I am receiving is

unbelievable.  We are a new school (three years in operation) and growing

fast.  I encourage anyone who wants a complete education in the herbal

world to check it out, or email me directly at osha@iname.com.



Regards,

Emily  









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Subject: herb research foundation: comments?

From: "N. Linford" <nantzee@u.washington.edu>

Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:26 -0800

--------

I just stumbled across this group's web site and they sound interesting

but I was a little scared by the huge-company support (I have trouble

trusting the ethics of large companies) and the fact that

they don't list who any of their experts are or what kind of research

(specifically) they have done. I have read Herbs for Health and Herbalgram

and they seem to be pretty good.  Anyone familiar with these folks?

Comments?



_______________________________________________________________________________

Nancy Linford					UW Dept of Pharmacology, 357280

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Subject: Re: herb research foundation: comments?

From: <@networksplus.net>

Date: 16 Jan 1999 23:25:06 -0600

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"N. Linford" <nantzee@u.washington.edu> writes: > I just stumbled across this group's web site and they sound interesting

> but I was a little scared by the huge-company support (I have trouble

> trusting the ethics of large companies) and the fact that

> they don't list who any of their experts are or what kind of research

> (specifically) they have done. I have read Herbs for Health and Herbalgram

> and they seem to be pretty good.  Anyone familiar with these folks?

> Comments?

> 

> _______________________________________________________________________________

> Nancy Linford					UW Dept of Pharmacology, 357280

> nantzee@u.washington.edu			BB1538A  685-8799

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> 

Herb research Foundation is a recognized leader in herbal information and research. Many people on their board are some of the most well-known herbalists and researchers in the field. 

I can understand your concern about the big companies getting involved--I am a little apprehansive about seeing herbal product prodeucers and especially any pharmaceutical

companies getting involved; however, I guess that is the future--drug companoes want to jump on the herb band wagon and pproduce prodcucts like St. john's, Saw palmetto, and menopausal formulas. 

I am not in favor of turning all this over to the doctors and the pharmacists. herb research Foundation is trying to help establish credibility and acceptance here in the US of herbal medicine, such

as has been in England and Europe for years. And they do have some good informative packets available for about 5.00 a piece. Go ahead and check them out..and herbs for health and herbalgram are good magazines for any enthusiast!







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Subject: Volunteers are being sought for the Christian Herbalist Newsletter

From: "Sozo International" <sozo@sozonet.com>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:28:48 -0600

--------

Winona Bigwhip Pakune Martin, a native Kiowa Indian and founder of a great

newsletter which in part is sponsored by our company is seeking sharp,

skilled christian herbalist to kick off the 1999 publications.  Submit an

email to her at winona@sozonet.com and tell her your interested in trying

out your writing skills.  :-) God Bless



--

Sozo International Inc.

PO BOX 4326

FT WALTON BCH FL 32549

http://www.sozonet.com









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Subject: Re: Volunteers are being sought for the Christian Herbalist Newsletter

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:27:01 -0800

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Sorry, don't know any Christian herbalists. Know lots of pagan herbalists

but I don't think that's what this person is looking for.....



Green Blessings,

Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Volunteers are being sought for the Christian Herbalist Newsletter

From: "Sozo International" <sozo@sozonet.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:11:45 -0600

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Specifically we just need good herbalist authors who love to write and

become published.  Anything at all relating to herbology is appreciated.



--

Sozo International Inc.

PO BOX 4326

FT WALTON BCH FL 32549

http://www.sozonet.com

850-837-6338



ma pickle wrote in message ...

>Sorry, don't know any Christian herbalists. Know lots of pagan herbalists

>but I don't think that's what this person is looking for.....

>

>Green Blessings,

>Ingrid

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Names of korean herbs?

From: ooopsdelete@hotmail.com (m)

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:41:49 GMT

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Hi to all knowledge out there, now I have a question tha might

challenge you!



I got a chinese medicineherb package from a friend who was wisiting

south korea last year.  Now I?m wondering if there is anyone who is

able to translate the chinese / korean signs on the packages (approx.

22 pcs.) 

It would surly feel better to know the latin names before 

using them ;-)



Maybe there is a better forum for this? 



Thank you and thanks to all who contribute to this interesting forum.

Marcus - sweden



ooopsDELETE@hotmal.com

remove "DELETE" to reply





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:48:36 +1100

--------

My baby boy is sometimes crying loudly at night without waking up.  The

maternity nurse said he is have a night fright (apparently different from

nightmare).



I have seen in the FAQ herbs which encourage dreaming, does anyone have

recommendations for herbs that discourage them (and are safe for a little

one).



Thanks









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: lambert@mother.com (Chris Lambert)

Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:33:39 GMT

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In article <77rc9a$r2n$1@news.mel.aone.net.au>, "Paul Sorenson"

<pauls@classware.com.au> wrote:





>

>I have seen in the FAQ herbs which encourage dreaming, does anyone have

>recommendations for herbs that discourage them (and are safe for a little

>one).

>

>Thanks

lots of herbs help with sleep

lavender, camomile, mugwort..........

first try a lavender dream pillow

good luck!

trisha



-- 

"To give your sheep or cow a large, spacious meadow is the way to control him."





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 17 Jan 1999 02:07:54 GMT

--------

>>I have seen in the FAQ herbs which encourage dreaming, does anyone have

>>recommendations for herbs that discourage them (and are safe for a little

>>one).

>>

>>Thanks

>lots of herbs help with sleep

>lavender, camomile, mugwort..........

>first try a lavender dream pillow

>good luck!

>trisha



Not sure of the rest but there are those of us who use mugwort to get some real

fun dreams.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: donwiss@spamnot.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:39:41 GMT

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On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au> wrote:



>My baby boy is sometimes crying loudly at night without waking up.  The

>maternity nurse said he is have a night fright (apparently different from

>nightmare).



Here's an article on this with useful advice:



From:    K.L.Reichelt @ rh.uio.no (Kalle Reichelt)

Subject: Night terror.

Date:    26 Feb 1996 14:10:16 +0100



Hi. There is no evidence that this has to do with food proteins. However,

most of the Growth Hormone release is at night so that lots of growing

probably takes place then. In kids growing up it has been suggested that

this may give ill defined sensations from sensory nerves being stretched at

night. This may cause the nightmares and often panic on waking up. Kids are

pretty soft and a lot of running/playing definitely compress tissues esp

in the legs. We usually treat this by teaching the kids to stretch as do

athletes after exercise. It seems to help, but nobody is quite sure of

this. Presleeping massage may also help to relax taut muscles and tendons.

The faster they grow and the more active the more frequent is the problem. 



All the best                                    Cheers



                                                        TINY



K. Reichelt

Pediatric Research Institute

N-0027 Oslo, Norway

Tel: +47 22 86 90 45

Fax: +47 22 86 91 17

E-mail: K.L.Reichelt @ rh.uio.no





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: "Sozo International" <sozo@sozonet.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:34:10 -0600

--------

Hello,



This is Winona Bigwhip Pakune, a kiowa indian herbalist.  I suggest you

educate the mother on parasitic infection.  There are many herbs that can

address the problem.  18 mo babies are very susceptible to worms and

parasitic infections and as often times ignored, I have found in a LOT of

cases that a cleansing of this type in an 18 mo baby will quam the "night

frights".



Some herbal remedies for removal of parasitic infections are:



1. Wormwood



Buy the book "Raising a Healthy Child" by Cheryl Townsley   Not sure of the

ISBN number but a lot of useful recipes on parasites.  18mo are very very

susceptible to these.  Or you can steep a herbal tea with wormwood, black

walnut, and cloves, ... honey to taste and give in the morning and evening

for ten days.

1/2 teaspoon each dosage.  I also suggest that the entire family be put on

this tea for the same amount of time but with a dosage as follows: ages 6-12

1tsp, 12-adult 1 Tbl



Blessings



Winona  -Owner-

-------------------------------

Sozo International Inc.

PO BOX 4326

FT WALTON BCH FL 32549

http://www.sozonet.com

Don Wiss wrote in message <36e75b6d.460900968@news.panix.com>...

>On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au> wrote:

>

>>My baby boy is sometimes crying loudly at night without waking up.  The

>>maternity nurse said he is have a night fright (apparently different from

>>nightmare).

>

>Here's an article on this with useful advice:

>

>From:    K.L.Reichelt @ rh.uio.no (Kalle Reichelt)

>Subject: Night terror.

>Date:    26 Feb 1996 14:10:16 +0100

>

>Hi. There is no evidence that this has to do with food proteins. However,

>most of the Growth Hormone release is at night so that lots of growing

>probably takes place then. In kids growing up it has been suggested that

>this may give ill defined sensations from sensory nerves being stretched at

>night. This may cause the nightmares and often panic on waking up. Kids are

>pretty soft and a lot of running/playing definitely compress tissues esp

>in the legs. We usually treat this by teaching the kids to stretch as do

>athletes after exercise. It seems to help, but nobody is quite sure of

>this. Presleeping massage may also help to relax taut muscles and tendons.

>The faster they grow and the more active the more frequent is the problem.

>

>All the best                                    Cheers

>

>                                                        TINY

>

>K. Reichelt

>Pediatric Research Institute

>N-0027 Oslo, Norway

>Tel: +47 22 86 90 45

>Fax: +47 22 86 91 17

>E-mail: K.L.Reichelt @ rh.uio.no









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: 18 month old having "night frights"

From: Amanda <amandaf@home.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:49:30 GMT

--------

These were called "night terrors" in my psyc class.  They are quite

common among children and involve the very deepest states of sleep so

there is actually no dream.  There seems to be some sense of impending

doom or something which accompanies them frequently and sometimes they

feel as if something was trying to get them but they are feelings not

images producing the terror.  There is no explanation really.  They are

limited to childhood and they eventually disappear.  All you can do is

be there for them.



Hugs and blessings

  Amanda



Paul Sorenson wrote:

> 

> My baby boy is sometimes crying loudly at night without waking up.  The

> maternity nurse said he is have a night fright (apparently different from

> nightmare).

> 

> I have seen in the FAQ herbs which encourage dreaming, does anyone have

> recommendations for herbs that discourage them (and are safe for a little

> one).

> 

> Thanks





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: anemia

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:11:13 -0600

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Does anyone know which foods and herbs are helpful in dealing with

anemia?  Thank you.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anemia

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:55:30 GMT

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eyoll@mcia.com wrote:



>Does anyone know which foods and herbs are helpful in dealing with

>anemia?  Thank you.



Anemia is NOT a disease.  It is a SYMPTOM of anything from simple

iron deficiency to leukemia.



You need a full hematological exam to find out WHY you are anemic

before treating it.  

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: anemia

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:45:17 -0600

--------

I agree with Tsu Doh Nimh (grin) that you need to talk with your Dr. Anemia

in and of itself is harmless (I had it when I was pregnant; all the Dr. said

to do was use iron supplements) but is almost always linked to something

else. Is it sudden or have you always had it? how do you know you are

anemic? have you changed your diet? anything else in your life? Anemia would

require rather drastic dietary changes to control it *if* it is not related

to anything else.



Start by cutting out aspirin products and taking a good multivitamin

supplement. And then go straight back to your Dr.



Hilary



Tsu Dho Nimh wrote in message <36a2943d.1275355@news.primenet.com>...

>eyoll@mcia.com wrote:

>

>>Does anyone know which foods and herbs are helpful in dealing with

>>anemia?  Thank you.

>

>Anemia is NOT a disease.  It is a SYMPTOM of anything from simple

>iron deficiency to leukemia.

>

>You need a full hematological exam to find out WHY you are anemic

>before treating it.

>Tsu Dho Nimh

>

>It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: dandelions

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:37:09 -0600

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are dandelions helpful in prevent further development of gallstones?

As a tea?  Where is a good, safe place to buy dandelion prepared for

medicinal use?  Thanks.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: dandelions

From: HealthyU@gvn.no.spam.net (Janine)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:28:18 GMT

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On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:37:09 -0600, eyoll@mcia.com wrote:



>are dandelions helpful in prevent further development of gallstones?

>As a tea?  Where is a good, safe place to buy dandelion prepared for

>medicinal use?  Thanks.



Which reminds me to go pick my dandelions coming up in the yard and

have a good liver cleansing salad. <s>



Janine





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:03:28 -0800

--------

There are little trays to hold a capsule half for you to fill but the

easiest thing is to put the bulk herbs in front of you on a table, put them

on a cookie sheet or other object to catch the spillage, open the capsule,

run it through the herbs to fill and put together.

Kind of a zen exercise....



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: Jeffrey Karp <jeffkarp@erols.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:07:29 -0500

--------

Why do you want to bother with this? Empty capsules are not so

inexpensive. It is also difficult to achieve anything close to equal dosages.

It seems like a time consuming effort that will yield little cost savings.



sycamore@webtv.net wrote:



> After years of using herbs, at fifty, there are a few my husband and I

> need religiously.  I am spending a fortune.  I would like to start

> buying in bulk (SF Herb Co.) and filling my own capsules.  I can't find

> a website 'how to'.  And am wondering if it is feasible.  Any

> suggestions?  jennifer











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:26:26 -0600

--------

Don't know why you want to fill capsules. If you can figure out the dose,

just make a tea with the bulk herbs, or mix them with food.









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Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:13:29 -0800

--------

If you are using bulk herbs you can certainly make a tea. But capsules can

be conveinent. And by filling them yourself you are adding your own energy

to the blend.



You will not lose quality by not using a name brand, in fact if you can get

the herbs locally you may have better quality.  Most herbs are domestic, get

organic if you can.



Don't worry about mgs per capsule.  And the cap-m-quick is fine.  You don't

worry about mgs with tea do you?  Tea is the traditional way of using herbs.



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:16:31 -0600

--------

Generally, from what I've read, they just dry the herb, crush it to powder,

and measure the appropriate dose. Sometimes, though, they may make a tea or

even boil it, pour off the water, and let it evaporate, then use the

resulting powder in the capsule. Depends on what herbs you are talking

about.

If I had the choice between a capsule and a dried herb, I'd take the herb

any time. After a while you can recognize the herbs you use a lot, and can

tell if they are adulterated with something.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 17 Jan 1999 20:14:48 GMT

--------

Hi Folks,  there is a product on the market called a 'Cap-It' which is a

low-tech herb capping device.  Most herb retailers sell them.  I can not vouch

for it's use as I have never used one, however, I've been told it is only one

step above capping individual units.  Not a glowing assessment I'd say.  In my

own experience, I take opened gel caps, triple 000 being the best (because of

their size), put them AND your bulk herbs in the same large container

(preferrably plastic for safety reasons) and then just simply shaking the

container all around with as much vigor as is comfortable for you.  The herb

ends up in the caps.  Obvious drawbacks are; (1) that you must then seperate

the herbs and the caps and reassemble the cap halves (wear latex gloves if

cleanliness is an issue with you), (2) that there may be too much herb in both

halves preventing pushing the 2 halves together, (3) with powdered herbs (as

opposed to cut and sifted) you must handle the product so as not to let the

'dust' of the powdered herb scatter all over the place, (4) the caps don't

always get filled up so that only a limited percentage is usably filled

constituting re-filling, and other problems as well.  However,  if you make a

concerted effort and are really motivated by economics, I think the method is

reliably effective.  If you hear of other methods let me know.  I can learn

more too.  Good Luck  !!!  :-)





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Filling Your Own Capsules

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:32:25 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



SrfDragon wrote:

> Hi Folks,  there is a product on the market called a 'Cap-It' which is a

> low-tech herb capping device. 



I use something like this as well. set the bottom 1/2 of the capsules

inside the grooves, pour the herb over, swish it in with your little

cardboard piece, and you fill 50 or so with ease! 



-Val





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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to become a vegetarian

From: "mamabear" <mamabear@internetwis.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:58:26 -0600

--------

No problem. The main thing is to eat lots of different kinds of vegetables,

not just a few, since humans are omnivores and need some things that cows

and such don't. Some say you need to take extra vitamins, but that's not

necessary if you eat fresh or fresh-frozen produce

One big problem for vegetarians is protein. The bean family - including

soybeans, peanuts, peas and the fifty million kinds of beans - is lacking in

some human protein requirements, and the grass family - including wheat,

barley, corn, oats, and so on - is lacking in others. So if you eat both

families at the same meal you'll have complete protein. For instance, a

peanut butter sandwich, or tortillas with refried beans gives you complete

protein. Doesn't work if you have Boston baked beans at one meal and bread

at another, they must be together.

Good eating!!









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Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to become a vegetarian

From: "AgentBlue" <spam@sucks.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:18:04 -0700

--------



mamabear <mamabear@internetwis.com> wrote in message

news:77t8ea$oig$1@news.inc.net...

> Doesn't work if you have Boston baked beans at one meal and bread

>at another, they must be together.

>Good eating!!

>

What source do you get this from? I am not saying I am necessarily

disagreeing with you, so no flames please. However I thought this protein

combining stuff was old school and largely discarded, I think it was from

the pysicians commitee for responsible medicine as well as the book "diet

for a new america" that both claim our bodies can keep incomplete proteins

long enough to make protein combining within the same meal to be uneeded.











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: How to become a vegetarian

From: sunmachin@aol.comdrill (Sunmachin)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 01:24:21 GMT

--------

I have been a vegetarian for 11 years. 



Some resources on the net are two newsgroups, alt.veg.cooking and rec.veg



I also belong to a veg listserve for recipes. 



Lacto-ovo vegetarians (including dairy/eggs) do not have a problem with

vitamins. 



Vegans, have to work a little harder and plan meals.  But it is done and in a

healthy way. 



There is a vegetarian food pyramid. 



This is it: 



DAILY: Fruits/vegetables , Whole grains and legumes



Daily or less: Nuts/seeds, egg whites, soy milks and dairy. 



Occasionally: Eggs/sweets



I don't remember what meat, chicken or fish tastes like and I don't miss it at

all. But I would tell you though, that there could be "withdrawal" feelings

when you first start out. 



I would suggest giving up red meat first, then chicken, then fish. Do it

gradually. Good luck.  





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: butterflies

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:04:16 -0600

--------

Hi,

Does anyone know which herbs attract butterflies, and also whether

butterflies are attracted by color, fragrance, or both?  Thank you!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: butterflies

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:25:35 GMT

--------

eyoll@mcia.com wrote:



>Hi,

>Does anyone know which herbs attract butterflies, and also whether

>butterflies are attracted by color, fragrance, or both?  Thank you!



Butterflies are attracted by color and nectar for feeding and by

"host" plants they can lay their eggs on (milkweeds, ofr

example).  Any garden book for your area can tell you what is

most attractive to the species local to you.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: butterflies

From: juniper@home.com

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:30:38 GMT

--------

just remember that butterflies are caterpillars in the immature stage!

many people like butterflies but despise caterpillars and you can not

have one without

the other!







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: butterflies

From: HealthyU@gvn.no.spam.net (Janine)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:33:32 GMT

--------

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:58:11 -0600, "Arkansas Deb"

<thomasclan@earthlink.net> wrote:



Sage, lavender, honeysuckle, 



>The butterflies adore my apple mint...unfortunately it has taken over the

>entire flower bed...the catapillars can have a feast and not phase this

>stuff.

>

>eyoll@mcia.com wrote in message <36A26C70.451D@mcia.com>...

>>Hi,

>>Does anyone know which herbs attract butterflies, and also whether

>>butterflies are attracted by color, fragrance, or both?  Thank you!

>

>

>







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:46:36 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



KAL103 wrote:

> 

> You should never take any herb unless the is a condition you are trying

> contramand.



Wrong. Herbs are preventive medicine.



> No matter what a faker will tell you, herbs are medicines and

> medicines are poison unless you have specific reason for taking them.



I dare you to back this opinion up from a published source. Herbs are

medicine, but they're not poison 'unless you have a specific reason for

taking them'.



> Let mee know if I've helped you.



Who's "mee"? =)



-Val





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko

From: nexus@king.cts.com (Alan Pollock)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 07:29:20 GMT

--------

KAL103 (kal103@aol.com) wrote:

:You should never take any herb unless the is a condition you are trying

:contramand. No matter what a faker will tell you, herbs are medicines and

:medicines are poison unless you have specific reason for taking them. 

:Are you studying for an exam? Do you have alzheimer's disease? Do you have

:dementia?

:Let mee know if I've helped you.

:Good luck.



How dare you tell me I should stop drinking tea! Go away. Nex





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:52:05 -0500

--------

WRONG!! Herbs are whole foods and are most often used as preventive

measures. Herbs are NOT poison, but just like any substance must be

treated with care. Your comments are completely contradictory to all

published data be it ancient or current.



     Don Levell, M.H.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:52:17 -0800

--------

>>. Herbs are NOT poison, but just like any substance must be

treated with care. Your comments are completely contradictory to all

published data be it ancient or current.>>



I suspect that soon he'ss have some wonderful spam to try to sell to us.

Let me know if I've helped you....











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Ginko

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:58:32 +0000

--------

In article <15590-36A435F4-127@newsd-211.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

bpholm@webtv.net releases a small spider to scrawl across the page..

>I'm the person who asked about Ginko Biloba. I was taking it for

>tinnitus. I had this terrible roaring in my ear. My doctor thought it

>may be infection so he gave me an antibiotic. That didn't help at all.

>Then I went to an ear doctor and he told me I have nerve damage, need a

>hearing aid.

>I'm just starting to learn about herbs and I read in a book that  Ginko

>may help.

>Anything to stop the roaring. Well, I took 60mg of Ginko Biloba twice a

>day. I noticed the roaring getting less and less.

>The tinnitus is gone. I went to a different ear doctor and he said the

>hearing is improving. No hearing aid needed. I have to go back to him in

>six months. That's why I asked if I should continue taking it or stop

>for awhile.

>Pat  

>

 Glad to hear it! ;) When I've suggested it to people it either helps,

or it doesn't, but most feel it's worth a try to help this condition.

It's also ideal for circulatory conditions and I suspect that those

whose tinnitus is due to injury to the ear drum itself may not see the

same results but with herbs it's always trial and error, and a personal

thing.

-"fortune presents gifts not according to the book"- 

angelica





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: lice and kerosine

From: lambert@mother.com (Chris Lambert)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 04:17:27 GMT

--------

how frightening! Please do not try it!!!!!

any vegetable type oil left for several hours on scalp is so much safer

and less toxic

essential oils added to oil can also help

tea tree oil is thought to be espeacially helpful!

love. trisha



-- 

"To give your sheep or cow a large, spacious meadow is the way to control him."





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Subject: Re: uses for anise

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 04:26:19 GMT

--------

Hi Hilary,  'anise' comes in at least 3 different forms; regular anise

Pimpinella anisum, start anise Illicium verum, anise hyssop Agastache

foeniculum, and aniseed Tagetes lucida.  Therefore, you have many choices.  If

you want further info EM me and I will narrow down your search further.  Talk

to you soon.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: uses for anise

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:17:56 GMT

--------

On 18 Jan 1999 04:26:19 GMT, srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Hi Hilary,  'anise' comes in at least 3 different forms; regular anise

>Pimpinella anisum, start anise Illicium verum, anise hyssop Agastache

>foeniculum, and aniseed Tagetes lucida.  Therefore, you have many choices.  If

>you want further info EM me and I will narrow down your search further.  Talk

>to you soon.



Your regular kitchen anise is either aniseed (Pimpinella anisum) or star anise

(Illicium verum). 

Neither anise hyssop nor Tagetes lucida have any part in it. Sure, anise hyssop

-tastes- the same, but so do a lot of other plants.



Henriette



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Subject: Any Suggestions Please!

From: gizmo0166@aol.com (Gizmo0166)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 07:00:38 GMT

--------

Hi!! 

I'm trying to work on three specific problems for my husband: Colorectal

Cancer, Liver(that's where it spread to), and High Blood Pressure. He's already

using essiac.  So far, the herbs I've decided to use for the liver and BP are

Hawthorne, Dandelion, Milk Thistle, and Valerian.  I have these in powder form.

This is where my problem comes in.  How do I make a tea using these?  

I have looked all over and can't come up with a recipe for putting them

together.

I see different doses of each recommended and in different forms.  I'm not

well versed yet, so the teas seem to be easier. 

 Also, I've been told to address each problem seperate: have a specific tonic

for each condition. But each recipe seems to have at least 4-5 herbs in each

and I wanted to keep it as simple as possible at first and add on if something

else is needed. Is it possible to make just one tea with the 4 things I've

chosen or will it not be effective? 

 I also don't need much at once.  I'd like to have enough for maybe a week or

less so that it's always fresh.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.  Thanks a bunch!!!!!!!!!











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Looking for seed exchange sites!

From: godesstr@aol.com (GodesStr)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 07:09:22 GMT

--------

Greetings,



That time of the year has come again and I am in search of some of the really

good seed exchange sites.  I lost all my old ones due to a computer crash. :o( 

So if anyone knows of some I would be most grateful!



thanks,

C





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: LICHEN SCLEROSIS ET ATROPHICUS

From: "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:22:32 +1100

--------

Has anyone out there got suggestions for treating "LICHEN SCLEROSIS ET

ATROPHICUS".



The doctors standard prescription seems to be a cortisone or testosterone

cream but these have to be used for ever.  Ie the doctors can't make it go

away.



Cheers









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Comfrey and Women.

From: simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:29:19 +0000

--------



Hi Gang,



    I was speaking to a Naturopath on Sunday about a poultice I have

been useing to treat my girlfriends dematitis.

He said that Comfrey (one of the ingredients) should be used very

sparingly with women because it has a tandency to build up fibroids

(sp?) in their system. ( I hope I go that right.)

Has anyone else ever heard of this or other problems with the use of

comfrey?



Thanks.



Simon.



BTW The herbal poultice has had better results in a few weeks than  20

years of

dermatologists and other western medicine. We are both thrilled with the

results and want to continue treatment.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Comfrey and Women.

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:43:03 GMT

--------

>Hi Gang,

>

>    I was speaking to a Naturopath on Sunday about a poultice I have

>been useing to treat my girlfriends dematitis.

>He said that Comfrey (one of the ingredients) should be used very

>sparingly with women because it has a tandency to build up fibroids

>(sp?) in their system. ( I hope I go that right.)

>Has anyone else ever heard of this or other problems with the use of

>comfrey?

>

>Thanks.

>

>Simon.

>

>BTW The herbal poultice has had better results in a few weeks than  20

>years of

>dermatologists and other western medicine. We are both thrilled with the

>results and want to continue treatment.



Sounds like he wants to keep the womenfolk away from the good stuff! :)



Belinda







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Subject: Re: Comfrey and Women.

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:26:29 -0800

--------

I agree with Belinda. If it works, use it. Comfrey is an age old remedy for

skin problems.



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Comfrey and Women.

From: jmarnell@SPAMBLOCKER.netcomuk.co.uk

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:32:03 GMT

--------

On 18 Jan 1999 16:43:03 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote:



>>Hi Gang,

>>

>>    I was speaking to a Naturopath on Sunday about a poultice I have

>>been useing to treat my girlfriends dematitis.

>>He said that Comfrey (one of the ingredients) should be used very

>>sparingly with women because it has a tandency to build up fibroids

>>(sp?) in their system. ( I hope I go that right.)

>>Has anyone else ever heard of this or other problems with the use of

>>comfrey?

>>

>>Thanks.

>>

>>Simon.

>>

>>BTW The herbal poultice has had better results in a few weeks than  20

>>years of

>>dermatologists and other western medicine. We are both thrilled with the

>>results and want to continue treatment.

>

>Sounds like he wants to keep the womenfolk away from the good stuff! :)

>

>Belinda

>

	Well, if it was an ordinary doc, I think I'd have to agree.

Some of them are terribly anti-alternative and can be quite nasty with

you if you don't agree/won't listen to their "superior" opinion. But

he *did* say that this was a Naturopath that told him this.

	I don't want to put an unnecessary scare into anyone over

this, but I've read a few things that suggest comfrey is carcinogenic,

especially when used on a regular basis. That you should be very

careful and use it sparingly. These were all articles by advocates of

alternative medicine. Anyone else know any more about this?



GCM 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Comfrey and Women.

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:42:22 GMT

--------

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:29:19 +0000, simon J okeeffe <simon@gjames.com.au> wrote

in alt.folklore.herbs:



>    I was speaking to a Naturopath on Sunday about a poultice I have

>been useing to treat my girlfriends dematitis.

>He said that Comfrey (one of the ingredients) should be used very

>sparingly with women because it has a tandency to build up fibroids

>(sp?) in their system. ( I hope I go that right.)



Externally? I seriously doubt that.



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Sesame seeds

From: steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:36 GMT

--------

I have MS. I carefully analyse the interactions between what I eat and

my symptoms. I keep finding a good positive relationship between my

balance and sesame seeds. I use quite a generous amount of sesame

seeds in cooking because I love the flavour. The relationship may be

just a coincidence but it keeps popping out of the analyser.

Coincidental relationship do not survive long term analysis. Can any

of you herb experts suggest why such a relationship may exist? 



Steve

--

Stephen Wolstenholme

Neural Network Shareware

http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Sesame seeds

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:43:59 GMT

--------

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:36 GMT, steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>I have MS. I carefully analyse the interactions between what I eat and

>my symptoms. I keep finding a good positive relationship between my

>balance and sesame seeds. I use quite a generous amount of sesame

>seeds in cooking because I love the flavour. The relationship may be

>just a coincidence but it keeps popping out of the analyser.

>Coincidental relationship do not survive long term analysis. Can any

>of you herb experts suggest why such a relationship may exist? 



Potassium, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium. How do you do on other nuts? They

contain these, too, even if not as much. It's hard to find anything that's got

more magnesium than sesame seeds.



Folic acid. What about other nuts, egg yolks, the cabbages? They contain folic

acid, too.



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbal weight loss patch

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:56:25 +0000

--------

LEvans1044 wrote:

> 

> >0010518@ng115.aol.com>,

> >  kg89615@aol.com (KG89615) wrote:

> >> I've lost 38pounds on this homeopathic product in 11 weeks....

> >>

> >> Ken

> >> kg89615@aol.com

> >> Ken Gold

> >> KG89615@aol.com

> >>

> >Can you tell me nore about the weight loss patch and also where i can get it?

> >thanks,

> >     pebbles

> 

> Visions of chickweed plastered to my arm are running thru my head....I'd love

> to hear about this one too!

> 

> Belinda





No big secret here.



You tape the weight loss patch over your mouth, works a treat.



If you can't find the herbal weight loss patch you can try the

electrical duct tape weight loss patch.





Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: herbal weight loss patch

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:01:45 +0000

--------

Richard Ogden wrote:

> 

> <laughing> "electrical" "duct" tape?  Where pray tell do you find such a

> thing?  Electrical tape is made of a plastic or synthetic rubber base

> selected specifically for it's high resistance to electric current (low

> conductivity).  It's designed for wrapping around electrical connections to

> prevent them from shorting or causing a shock (NOT to hold them together!).

> Duct tape was originally intended for sealing the joints in duct work (aka

> heating or air conditioning).  I would certainly NEVER use it for electrical

> work, as it does not isolate the current well (you can get shocked through

> it).

> 

> -Rich

> 





AH!  shot down in flames ;)



Bang goes my first million....



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: metabolism booster?

From: "Stardanser" <jugs2@gte.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:22:26 -0500

--------

Is there anything my husband and I can take to boost our metabolisms and aid

us in weight loss that is herbal?









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: metabolism booster?

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:52:39 GMT

--------

>Is there anything my husband and I can take to boost our metabolisms and aid

>us in weight loss that is herbal?



Yes! Pick your own herbs, the walking and bending will work wonders!



Belinda







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Elevated DHEA

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:46:59 -0800

--------

What is your DHEA level, your age and what time of day was the test taken?





Leingang wrote:



> My DHEA level is elevated and my GYN. wants to put me on birth control

> pills for 6 months.  Does anyone know of herbs or supplements to decrease

> this hormone?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Grape seeds

From: "karina and eric" <kcb.emc@securnet.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:19:04 -0500

--------

can somebody tell my

why they use grape seeds?

what can it do?

karina









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Grape seeds

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:00:20 GMT

--------

>can somebody tell my

>why they use grape seeds?

>what can it do?



Grape Seed Extract is an excellent deep immune booster.  One of the best.



Robin







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Grape seeds

From: "karina and eric" <kcb.emc@securnet.net>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:29:41 -0500

--------

Hello!

somebody told me it was very good

but why?

karina









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Grape seeds

From: "Infomaui" <infomaui@mauigateway.com>

Date: 23 Jan 1999 09:31:20 GMT

--------

Grapeseed oil is a great antioxidant. Lots of

information in the Internet. Explore a little

Good Luck Chris



karina and eric <kcb.emc@securnet.net> wrote in article

<784p6c$akb$1@news.securenet.net>...

> Hello!

> somebody told me it was very good

> but why?

> karina

> 

> 

> 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Head lice

From: "Cindy Adams" <rcadams@tds.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:34:34 -0500

--------

I had this problem only my son was allergic to the medicine..his wise doctor

told us about putting Mayo(not miracle whip, not enough fat) on the

head...plaster it on then put it up in a shower cap for 3 hours..the oil

kills the lice and I can tell you the smell is terrible(rotten eggs) but it

worked!!! After about 8 weeks with lice and doing 8 people it was worth a

try..it's non toxic and those of us with allergies were free!!!! We also

did a complete vacuuming of the house and washed all bedding and coats,

hats. etc...all stuffed animals were put outside for 2 weeks..we did 3 to be

safe..

Repeat the process in 7-10 days...allot of work but well worth the

effort!!!Good luck!









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Pennroyal

From: you@somehost.somedomain (DRUID@OAK)

Date: 18 Jan 99 18:52:52 GMT

--------

I recently bought some dried pennroyal after reading and article.    

The jar of pennroyal said "Not for internal use" and the article I read 

was talking about this group of lady's who were sitting naked on a 

patch of pennroyal.  With a length of time, whether the next day or 

when it didn't say, they all got their periods at the same time.

	My question is...



If pennroyal isn't supposed to be used internally, could I turn my 

dried pennroyal into a poltice and would it work as effectively as 

sitting on the plant itself to bring down a period?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pennroyal

From: "John Hinman" <hinman@montana.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:33:57 -0700

--------

Pennyroyal HERB is nontoxic and safe to use internally.  It's excellent for

colds, and tummy upsets and for stimulating delayed menstruation.

Pennyroyal OIL is extremely toxic and should only be used externally.  If

the oil is rubbed over the pelvic area sparingly it will help with cramps,

and promote menstruation.  Pennyroyal in either form should not be used

during pregnancy (particularly early trimester)>











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Anything Good for Eyes

From: "Cindy Goh" <ObleahO@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>

Date: 18 Jan 1999 21:55:25 GMT

--------

Ever since I started working as an auditor, my myopia has deteriorated by

over 100 degrees each eye. This is absolutely terrible! 



So please, anyone knows anything that has proven effective for improving

myopia and reducing eye strain? 



GG





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:32:50 GMT

--------

>Ever since I started working as an auditor, my myopia has deteriorated by

>over 100 degrees each eye. This is absolutely terrible! 

>

>So please, anyone knows anything that has proven effective for improving

>myopia and reducing eye strain? 

>



I always use juniper berry when my vision starts going. It brings it right back

in a few days. It works by strengthening the optic nerve. Rue is said to do the

same, but  I stillget better results with the juniper berries.

Siberian ginseng,a nd schisandra berries are said to be good for eyestrain.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: "Maryse L. Dufresne" <maryse.lap_dufr@span.ch>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:10:54 +0100

--------

Hello everyone. It is my first reading of your group.  I want to know what

do you do with the juniper berry that is suppose to help with myopia?  brew?

munch? tea or Gin? What?  It seems that I should know. Thank you.



MLD



















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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 06:06:15 GMT

--------

>Hello everyone. It is my first reading of your group.  I want to know what

>do you do with the juniper berry that is suppose to help with myopia?  brew?

>munch? tea or Gin? What?  It seems that I should know. Thank you.

>



Personally I collect fresh juniper berries from the mountains around here, then

I crush them and swallow them. Don't collect your own unless you know what you

are picking, savin junipers are poisonous. The easiest thing to do would be get

juniper berry powder from the health food store or capsuled juniper berry. I

would not use a tea because they are very resinous. I would recommend two

capsules, or 1/4 teaspoon powder, 3 time daily before meals. Watch your blood

sugar levels since juniper berries drop blood sugar. If you are prone to

hypoglycemia you may need to eat a little something before taking the berries.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: "Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H." <skip@netins.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:37:37 -0600

--------

Dr. Christopher has a great Herbal Eyewash formula.  I use it but not very

regularly and this is the first year in 24 that my eyes did not get any

worse.  The formula is very good for infections and the like.

Leslie Adams, M.H.



Cindy Goh wrote in message

<01be432d$a3a15080$9a3a15a5@Singnet.singnet.com.sg>...

>Ever since I started working as an auditor, my myopia has deteriorated by

>over 100 degrees each eye. This is absolutely terrible!

>

>So please, anyone knows anything that has proven effective for improving

>myopia and reducing eye strain?

>

>GG









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: "Garlic Goddess" <paula23@sprynet.com>

Date: 19 Jan 1999 21:50:47 GMT

--------

Speaking from personal experience...I've had good results taking plain

bilberry capsules.  Also, Alvita's Alpine Peak Visibili-tea (part of their

Reme-teas line) is also quite good.



Hope this helps!



Paula

paula23NOSPAM@sprynet.com

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/paula23/

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/paula23/katerit.htm







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:54:16 +0000

--------

In article <#Q51FTER#GA.237@upnetnews05>, Spiro Mandrakos

<Polemistis@email.msn.com> releases a small spider to scrawl across the

page..

>

>Cindy Goh wrote in message

><01be432d$a3a15080$9a3a15a5@Singnet.singnet.com.sg>...

>>Ever since I started working as an auditor, my myopia has deteriorated by

>>over 100 degrees each eye. This is absolutely terrible!

>>

>>So please, anyone knows anything that has proven effective for improving

>>myopia and reducing eye strain?

>>

>>GG

>

>               Billberry is the best way to go, it increases something in

>our eyes called "retinal purple" a substance that is critical for good

>vision. I have a cousin in the Hellenic Airforce and he tells me that most

>of the fighter pilots take Billberry complex to keep their eyes sharp.

>

>Spiros

>

>

>

 Yup, helps the formation of visual purple which improves night vision, 

apparently there are those in the RAF who use the supplement for night

training/flying. In fact as I understand it all blue and purple fruits

contain anthocyanins which have a vitamin P action, helping keep

capillaries healthy and the blood flow to the eyes.

 In the UK pycnogenol (maritime pine bark extract) has been featured in

the press recently. It is believed to be excellent for the health of the

capillaries especially those supplying the eyes and is being looked into

as a supplement for those whose visual problems relate to diabetes. 

  Of course we should not forget the importance of  carotenoids (why you

never see rabbits wearing glasses! ;)[1] I don't just mean beta-

carotene, associated with red, yellow, and orange vegetables but others,

lutein, and zeaxanthin found in green foods (the chlorophyll masks the

colour)[2] and are thought to play a part in reducing the risk of

macular degeneration.

 My other half has found his bad eye days have lessened since taking cod

liver oil due to its high vitamin A content essential for the health of

the eyes. Vitamin B2 and D help prevent eye strain. D is found in same

sources as A and B2 is in fortified cereals, leafy greens, fish and

dairy produce. I use cold chammomile tea bags to soothe strained eyes.

There is also euphrasia (eyebright) can be taken as a supplement, drunk

as a tea or used as a rinse for tired strained eyes.

 Enjoy!

[1] My father's terrible joke!

[2] Hence spinach and broccoli are not red, yellow or orange but are

still rich in carotenoids, I think that's clearer ;)

-"fortune presents gifts not according to the book"- 

angelica





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Anything Good for Eyes

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:59:18 -0500

--------

There is also a supplement called "Lutein" that is supposed to help protect

the eyes, similar perhaps to billberry.  Lutein is found in yellow

vegetables.  The supplement I saw, though, used extract from Marigold

(Tagetes) flowers!  Anyone have more info on this?



-Rich











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs,rec.gardens

Subject: Insecticides, pesticides, and possible health risks

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:58:08 -0500

--------

I work at a greenhouse in Maine that  has been in operation for over 50

years.  Although I am  strictly organic in my own gardening, I am forced to

use and be exsposed to many of the more potent insecticides that my employer

uses, such as Orthene.  The application of these chemicals is done using a

fogging machine.

     A former employee of this greenhouse developed sever allergies to these

products, and now cannot enter the building if spraying has occurred, even

if it was several months prior.  I live in an apartment above the

greenhouses and am very concerned about the possible health effects years

down the road.  I worry about the buildup of the pesticides in the dirt on

the floors of the greenhouses, and the possibility  of contaminating the

water supply.

    Whenever the fogging is being done, my husband and I take our dog and

leave for the night, but the smell of the chemicals remains for several

days, even if windows are left open and exhaust fans are set up.  My

employers, a couple in their 80's do not seem to be affected, and do not

share my concerns.  I was wondering if there have been any studies done on

the subject of long term exsposure, and where I could find this information.

Although I love my job, (propagator of herb plants) I do not wish to ruin my

health.

    Sorry for such a long message.  Feel free to email me or respond to the

group.

-beth









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Appetite

From: mez@idirect.com (Bob Mez)

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:28:57 GMT

--------

	What herbs are available to help reduce appetite?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Appetite

From: Julie <jdsaht@aol.com>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:03:31 -0500

--------

I would like to know if anyone knows herbs to actually stimulate

appetite.



Julie



Bob Mez wrote:



>         What herbs are available to help reduce appetite?











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Hygrangea: Kidney stone dissolver?

From: John@melon17.freeserve.co.uk (John )

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:42:02 GMT

--------

I recently came across a site

which suggested calcium oxolate

stones can be dissolved by

such herbs as hydrangea root and

gravel root.



Anyone had any succes with these?



John









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Subject: Re: Hygrangea: Kidney stone dissolver?

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:33:41 GMT

--------

>I recently came across a site

>which suggested calcium oxolate

>stones can be dissolved by

>such herbs as hydrangea root and

>gravel root.

>

>Anyone had any succes with these?

>



I've seen people get really good results with nettle leaf.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Hygrangea: Kidney stone dissolver?

From: mssjude@aol.com (Mssjude)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 02:08:27 GMT

--------

Hi John, 

Yes my husband had calcium oxalate stones, 5 times to be exact. Nothing the Dr.

gave him helped. He started taking a tincture of Madder/Hydrangea from a

company called Herb Pharm and has been stone free. He also takes freeze-dried

nettle capsules from Eclectic Co. 

Hope this is of some help. Miss Jude.





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Subject: Re: Hygrangea: Kidney stone dissolver?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:37:54 -0800

--------

>>. He started taking a tincture of Madder/Hydrangea from a

company called Herb Pharm and has been stone free. He also takes

freeze-dried

nettle capsules from Eclectic Co.>>



These are both excellent herb companies. I especially like HerbPharm.

"Herbal Ed" who owns it is one of the pioneers of herbal medicine. Always

good quality medicines. And great kava.



Ingrid











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Uses for aniseed?

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:15:25 GMT

--------

<<Then I guess I need to know what the uses are for aniseed. I have seen where

people eat the seeds as a kind of after dinner refreshment, and it seems

like it would be good for digestion, but are there other purposes?>>





Sweetens the breath and mellows you out.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Uses for aniseed?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:58:10 +0000

--------

RSYES wrote:

> 

> <<Then I guess I need to know what the uses are for aniseed. I have seen where

> people eat the seeds as a kind of after dinner refreshment, and it seems

> like it would be good for digestion, but are there other purposes?>>

> 

> Sweetens the breath and mellows you out.





A couple of glasses of Ricard or Perno with water and ice certainly

mellows me out but my wife would disagree with you about the sweet

breath....  





Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Uses for aniseed?

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:26:04 GMT

--------

>A couple of glasses of Ricard or Perno with water and ice certainly

>mellows me out but my wife would disagree with you about the sweet

>breath....  

>

>

>Nick



Nick, You both have to drink it,  Then you'll be "breathless"

together :}





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Uses for aniseed?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:18:38 +0000

--------

RSYES wrote:

> 

> >A couple of glasses of Ricard or Perno with water and ice certainly

> >mellows me out but my wife would disagree with you about the sweet

> >breath....

> >

> >

> >Nick

> 

> Nick, You both have to drink it,  Then you'll be "breathless"

> together :}





Excellent - au bout de souffle...



I AM a French black and white film star



Nick Paul Belmondo





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Damania Help Please

From: fafnir16@aol.com (Fafnir16)

Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:17:02 GMT

--------

 I've heard that Damania is the herbal Viagra. I have it both in dried herbs

and in a tincture. Problem is, no one had ever suggested a correct amount to

use. I've heard that too much is not a good thing so I was wondering if anyone

knew the correct doseage.

  I don't get to the news boards very often so if anyone knows they can e mail

me and perhaps also post to the boards for anyone else wondering the same

thing.

 Thanks! 

 E mail - Fafnir16@aol.com

 Sharon





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ear fluid drives me nuts!

From: wsteiner <wsteiner@napanet.net>

Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:53:29 -0800

--------

have ear infection been about a month.infection seems to

be gone but still have fluid in ear doc says in time it will

go away.is there anything i can do to speed up healing

want my ear unpluged it's driving me crazy.trying to avoid

tubes or lancing bill

e mail wsteiner@napanet.net







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ear fluid drives me nuts!

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:14:19 -0500

--------

I had that very problem in December during the holiday season. I went to

an Aromatherapist who mixed a blend of chamomile extract & grapeseed

extract, (4 parts chamomile to one part grapeseed). I was to put only

one drop in each ear daily. Three days & three drops later my ears were

totally clear & remain so. Amazing! I had tried everything else without

success. An Aromatherapist in your area might be a suggestion.



     Don Levell

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ear fluid drives me nuts!

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:14:52 -0600

--------

Swedish Bitters helps.



wsteiner wrote in message <36A3F3A9.37DB0973@napanet.net>...

>have ear infection been about a month.infection seems to

>be gone but still have fluid in ear doc says in time it will

>go away.is there anything i can do to speed up healing

>want my ear unpluged it's driving me crazy.trying to avoid

>tubes or lancing bill

>e mail wsteiner@napanet.net

>











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ear fluid drives me nuts!

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:11:58 -0500

--------

Have you tried alternating hot and cold?  My mother used to have me lay my

head on a heating pad when I had blocked ears, and it often helped (and

please no comments about how the electromagnetic waves scrambled my brain

;-)



-Rich



wsteiner wrote in message <36A3F3A9.37DB0973@napanet.net>...

>have ear infection been about a month.infection seems to

>be gone but still have fluid in ear doc says in time it will

>go away.is there anything i can do to speed up healing

>want my ear unpluged it's driving me crazy.trying to avoid

>tubes or lancing bill

>e mail wsteiner@napanet.net

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: preserving hot chilli peppers? / growing them

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:55:26 +0000

--------

Thanks yr words guys.



I suspect I am pushing it uphill on account of our typically horrible

weather (and last year was a real stinker).  But I'll take yr advice and

see what I can do come spring with some seeds I have saved from a Texas

trip last summer.  I have ancho; habanero; pasilla; cascabel etc.  



I may just pass on the fairy lights though - the neighbours will think

I've lost it completely.



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort / hyperforin

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:30:05 +0000

--------

BB2 wrote:



> 

> Well .. uhhhhhh ... how could the studies have been done on SJW standardized to

> hyperforin if hyperforin wasn't recognized as a significant component back when the

> studies were done and no one was standardizing to hyperforin then ????

> 

> See the following website for updated info on hyperforin ...

> http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ

> BB2





Fair comment. That's a good site, and I agree, things move on,

understanding improves. 



Note though in the Appendix for the above: all the references for the

pharmacokinetics of hyperforin came from... Schwabe who have an obvious

interest in raising the demand for hyperforin standardized SJW as they

have the patent.



Maybe hyperforin is the way to go, but according to the same piece 66

million doses of SJW were prescribed in Germany in 1994. That was before

hyperforin standardization was an issue.  



I'm not knocking good research but it would stick in my throat if we get

a situation where Schwabe claim to be the only True Saviour when plenty

of people are gaining relief without worrying about what chemical/s in

the plant is/are helping them.



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort / hyperforin

From: BB2 <blessedby2@home.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:45:14 GMT

--------

I follow you Nick ...  I just wish others would read the blooming research <g>.  For

instance, folks keep tossing about the photosensitivity issues as if it were only a

sunburn/sunrash sort of reaction, when the medically-documented reaction feels more like

pins and needles in the arms and hands when one is out in the sun.  (In fact, as I

recall, I first encountered that reaction from a poster here.  I discounted his report --

assuming he was on some other meds -- until the same thing happened to someone I know

very well.)  And no (to answer an earlier post) the people that I know of who have had

the reaction that was documented in the Boston report were not on any other meds.  I'm a

big supporter of SJW -- it got my son out of deep doo-doo -- but the photosensitivity

thing is apparently real, and it's more than a reaction to sun -- it's some type of

temporary nerve damage.  Check it out -- it was released on a major news service (but I

can't remember if it was Reuter's, AP, or who) a few months ago -- anyway, that info is

on Camilla's website.  I'm fairly certain that Camilla has no interest in the

hyperforin/Schwabe issue, by the way.  Take Care, BB2



Nick wrote:



> BB2 wrote:

>

> >

> > Well .. uhhhhhh ... how could the studies have been done on SJW standardized to

> > hyperforin if hyperforin wasn't recognized as a significant component back when the

> > studies were done and no one was standardizing to hyperforin then ????

> >

> > See the following website for updated info on hyperforin ...

> > http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/STJOHNS.FAQ

> > BB2

>

> Fair comment. That's a good site, and I agree, things move on,

> understanding improves.

>

> Note though in the Appendix for the above: all the references for the

> pharmacokinetics of hyperforin came from... Schwabe who have an obvious

> interest in raising the demand for hyperforin standardized SJW as they

> have the patent.

>

> Maybe hyperforin is the way to go, but according to the same piece 66

> million doses of SJW were prescribed in Germany in 1994. That was before

> hyperforin standardization was an issue.

>

> I'm not knocking good research but it would stick in my throat if we get

> a situation where Schwabe claim to be the only True Saviour when plenty

> of people are gaining relief without worrying about what chemical/s in

> the plant is/are helping them.

>

> Nick











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: effectiveness of brands of St. John's Wort / hyperforin

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:26:44 GMT

--------

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:45:14 GMT, BB2 <blessedby2@home.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>I follow you Nick ...  I just wish others would read the blooming research <g>.  For

>instance, folks keep tossing about the photosensitivity issues as if it were only a

>sunburn/sunrash sort of reaction, when the medically-documented reaction feels more 



If you want to know what real photosensitivity feels like, go to the nearest

Heracleum giganteum plant, and put a drop of sap (not too much!) on your arm.

Then wait for half a day or two, and work in the sun.



OUCH!



It hurts -and- itches. Been there, done that.



Anybody can get photosensitivity from said Heracleum. What to do? 

a) use gloves and cover your arms / legs / whatever when weeding it, and 

b) use long sleeves for a week or so after you got sapped.



Henriette



--

hetta@saunalahti.fi   Helsinki, Finland    http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed

          -+- check out my picture pages - lots of changes -+-

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, jpegs, database, neat stuff, archives...





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: about kava

From: "Toni" <toni_berndtson@hotmail.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:57:01 GMT

--------

Hello everybody!!

I'm about to order some kava from the states. What do you think, will I get

cheated and end up several dollars poorer, or are these kava-companies that

advertise in the internet worth my trust??? What do you think is the safest

way to order??

I've heard some conflicting opinions about the disadvantages of kava: some

say that it damages the liver and some say it doesn't. Who's right, and what

can you say about the disadvantages in general (are there any)??

thanks

--

Toni









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: about kava

From: "Bob Taylor" <btaylor@dandy.net>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:59:05 -0500

--------

I've order some from the states and got what I expected.



I have the cut type and not the powdered. I chew a pinch and

make a cup of tea. Helps me relax. Side effects. None.

Don't use it everyday or all day.



>I've heard some conflicting opinions about the disadvantages of kava: some

>say that it damages the liver and some say it doesn't. Who's right, and

what

>can you say about the disadvantages in general (are there any)??

>thanks

>--

>Toni

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: about kava

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:42:42 -0600

--------

My opinion only, plus a little rant:



Think about this: if one person ever taking kava gets liver damage, the herb

is branded. As it is with many medications and products in general. There

are risks of individual sensitivities with everything you could consume.

Peanuts can cause an allergic person's throat to close off and they could

die-- instantly and very uncomfortably-- but peanuts are not blacklisted!

Herbs tend to get attacked by the medical community because they undermine

the drug industry and also !! make people well... without the thousands of

dollars sent shuffling into the medical industrial complex ;)



The best thing you can do is research your herbs and make your decision. If

you have a doubt, don't take it. When I asked my chamomile question in

regard to my young son, I received a plethora of very good answers which all

offered excellent advice and all contradicted each other!



Think about why you want to take the kava and then if the potential side

effects bother you, see if there is an alternative.



Hilary

(I am usually not this cynical, I apologize if I offended... it was not my

intention)



Toni wrote in message <1A4p2.163$oi1.967@read1.inet.fi>...

>Hello everybody!!

>I'm about to order some kava from the states. What do you think, will I get

>cheated and end up several dollars poorer, or are these kava-companies that

>advertise in the internet worth my trust??? What do you think is the safest

>way to order??

>I've heard some conflicting opinions about the disadvantages of kava: some

>say that it damages the liver and some say it doesn't. Who's right, and

what

>can you say about the disadvantages in general (are there any)??

>thanks

>--

>Toni

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: about kava

From: carluccit@aol.com (Carluccit)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:44:43 GMT

--------

I,m not an expert on herbs but , I know  that when you are going to buy herbs

you should buy the brands that say standardized extract on the bottle. This

means that in every dose your getting the exact amount of the herb that it

claims on the bottle.As far as the advantages or disadvantages of kava I would

look in different web sites under the title of herbs.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tribulus Terrestris

From: "peter platis" <Polemistis@email.msn.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:10:30 -0500

--------



             I have heard that this herb increases testosterone in males and

has been used by Bulgarian weightlifters for decades. I would like to know

if Tribulus Terrestris is a good alternative to Yohimbe and if there are any

side effects.



Thank You









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Prozac and Ginseng

From: "BgB" <b-bohl@ti.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:31:13 -0600

--------

Has anyone knowledge of supplementing Prozac with

Asian or American ginseng?



Thanks.

B









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Subject: Re: Prozac and Ginseng

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:32:31 -0600

--------

Not as such, but if you're taking prozac you might consider St. John's; that

can be supplemented with ginseng.



Hilary



BgB wrote in message <782mh1$r3r@news.rsc.raytheon.com>...

>Has anyone knowledge of supplementing Prozac with

>Asian or American ginseng?

>

>Thanks.

>B

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Prozac and Ginseng

From: bigdogboxr@aol.comnospam (BigDogBoxr)

Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:11:09 GMT

--------

>Not as such, but if you're taking prozac you might consider St. John's; that

>can be supplemented with ginseng.



thats not a good combination talk to your Dr first I was warned against it





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Prozac and Ginseng

From: "sokol" <sokol@prolynx.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:50:16 -0500

--------

Ginseng and Ginko both seem to have odd effects when used in combination

with SSRI's. Really a good idea to check with someone who really knows these

medications, a psychoatrist is your best bet.

BigDogBoxr wrote in message <19990124081109.18361.00002410@ng41.aol.com>...

>>Not as such, but if you're taking prozac you might consider St. John's;

that

>>can be supplemented with ginseng.

>

>thats not a good combination talk to your Dr first I was warned against it









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Prozac and Ginseng

From: ck <"korbus no spam"@uillinois.edu>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:12:47 -0600

--------

My physician has me on Prozak and my gyno suggested supplementing it

with Siberian Ginseng (for energy).



C







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: lice and kerosene

From: "Mike" <freelandmxyz@email.msn.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:15:30 GMT

--------

I missed the earlier posts...but I'll toss in my .02 worth.

We went through the lice thing last summer.  What did it for us was:

0) Identify the source on infestation.  If it's a playmate, keep away.  We

had one family that never told us their daughter had lice and she kept

re-infesting our oldest daughter.  We figured it out by process of

elimination.

1)  Meticulous nit-picking

2)  Mayonnaise in the hair (leave it on for a while...we ended up sleeping

w/ it on a couple of times).  Needs to be the regular mayo, not the low

fat.  Use the highest fat 5 you can find.  WARNING:  Mayo will stain your

pillows - find a way to protect them.

3)  Meticulous nit-picking

4)  Thorough vacuuming

5)  Meticulous nit-picking

6)  Thorough laundering

7)  Meticulous nit-picking



I think I made my point - good luck!  In two months we got rid of and were

re-infested three times.  Makes my head itch just thinking about it!









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: patchouli

From: "countrylivin" <Countrylivin@mail.xvi.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:20:03 -0600

--------

Hi everyone.  Can someone tell me if patchouli has a pleasant sent?

I am thinking of making soap with it.

Thanks.

Cindy.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: patchouli

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:07:52 -0500

--------

Although I can certaintly not tell you if you will like the scent, as

different people have different ideas of what is pleasant, I can describe

the smell.  Patchouli has a strong, musky scent that is similar to some

incenses.  I have seen many soaps made from the plant that have a lovely

smell.  It's always worth a try!

countrylivin wrote in message <782su3$mlt$1@news.megsinet.net>...

>Hi everyone.  Can someone tell me if patchouli has a pleasant sent?

>I am thinking of making soap with it.

>Thanks.

>Cindy.

>

>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: patchouli

From: kat_of_sorrow@nunya.goaway.com

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:15:03 -0500

--------

I have a question for you all here,,....how do you make an incense or

soap from the dried herb itself of patchouli.  I have 2 ounces of it

right now and need ideas of what to do with it.

thanks,

kat_of_sorrow



Chris+Beth Jensen wrote:

> 

> Although I can certaintly not tell you if you will like the scent, as

> different people have different ideas of what is pleasant, I can describe

> the smell.  Patchouli has a strong, musky scent that is similar to some

> incenses.  I have seen many soaps made from the plant that have a lovely

> smell.  It's always worth a try!

> countrylivin wrote in message <782su3$mlt$1@news.megsinet.net>...

> >Hi everyone.  Can someone tell me if patchouli has a pleasant sent?

> >I am thinking of making soap with it.

> >Thanks.

> >Cindy.

> >

> >





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: patchouli

From: caroll444@aol.com (Caroll444)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 15:27:27 GMT

--------

Cindy, patchouli smeel very good. it is an old hippy smell it is also used for

herbal remedies have a greatful day:)

    butterfly in cali.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: patchouli

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:59:54 GMT

--------

>It's the smell of grubby old afghan coats; sawdust nut roasts; roll yer

>own fags; joss sticks; airbrushed Yes album covers; cold, muddy outdoor

>rock festivals and Indian shops selling raggy khaftans and "silver"

>jewelry that turns your skin black...

>



Nick,

What a description, made me wanna dust off my Ravi Shankar album.

Robert





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Acid Reflux?

From: dizzytree@hotmail.com

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:46:14 GMT

--------

Hi,this is sort of a long question.For awhile now whenever I drink orange

juice,lemonade and sometimes apple juice,I get a really bad acid reflux type

thing going on.I always end up drinking a ton of Gaviscon,but I was wondering

if anyone knows of a herb that will help.Any info will gratefully

appreciated,Thanks!!



~Amanda



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Acid Reflux?

From: bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 05:07:06 GMT

--------

<< 

Hi,this is sort of a long question.For awhile now whenever I drink orange

juice,lemonade and sometimes apple juice,I get a really bad acid reflux type

thing going on.I always end up drinking a ton of Gaviscon,but I was wondering

if anyone knows of a herb that will help.Any info will gratefully

appreciated,Thanks!!



~Amanda

 >>





Go your doctor and have your self checked for H. pylori,  The bacteria the

causes ulcers. If you  test Positive take the anti Biotics. as there is Nothing

in the herbal catigory That I know of that will cure it.     





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Herbal flea powder needed

From: Jess <Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:48:53 +0000

--------

Im looking for a safe natural flea powder I can use on my dog(who is a

lovely German Shepard).  He is prone to eczema, and is therefore really

sensitive to commercial products(which are far to harsh).  What Im

looking for is something I can use once a week to keep him clean, rather

than having to deal with a full infestation(like He had last year:o(



Does anyone know of something Kind and safe for weekly use, that will

deter fleas from dogs?.......if so please tell me.  You can mail me

direct at Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk



Thank you all in advance

-- 

Jess





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Subject: Re: Herbal flea powder needed

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:01:09 -0600

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Try pennyroyal...you can fill a cloth tube and make your own flea

collar...just keep away from female dogs in heat or pregnant dogs...it can

make them abort I have heard.





Jess wrote in message ...

>Im looking for a safe natural flea powder I can use on my dog(who is a

>lovely German Shepard).  He is prone to eczema, and is therefore really

>sensitive to commercial products(which are far to harsh).  What Im

>looking for is something I can use once a week to keep him clean, rather

>than having to deal with a full infestation(like He had last year:o(

>

>Does anyone know of something Kind and safe for weekly use, that will

>deter fleas from dogs?.......if so please tell me.  You can mail me

>direct at Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk

>

>Thank you all in advance

>--

>Jess











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To: Jess <Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Herbal flea powder needed

From: Kelly A Mcelheny <mcelheny@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:00:42 -0500

--------

Don't use a powder at all, give your dog two crushed up cloves of garlic

in his food and it should work.  The garlic makes the animals blood

sulphuric so that the flea cannot live off of him - it works, and on cats

too.



Kelly A. McElheny

Stud. #: 2593-2965

University at Buffalo

Department of Anthropology

Home address:	241 Lisbon Avenue

		Buffalo, New York 14215

		716-834-5540

		e-mail:mcelheny@acsu.buffalo.edu



On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Jess wrote:



> Im looking for a safe natural flea powder I can use on my dog(who is a

> lovely German Shepard).  He is prone to eczema, and is therefore really

> sensitive to commercial products(which are far to harsh).  What Im

> looking for is something I can use once a week to keep him clean, rather

> than having to deal with a full infestation(like He had last year:o(

> 

> Does anyone know of something Kind and safe for weekly use, that will

> deter fleas from dogs?.......if so please tell me.  You can mail me

> direct at Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk

> 

> Thank you all in advance

> -- 

> Jess

> 

> 







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Subject: question about dandelions

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:16:47 -0600

--------

I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

there be any way to prepare them to use safely without destroying their

useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.





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Subject: Re: question about dandelions

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 00:41:22 GMT

--------

>I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

>of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

>four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

>not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

>there be any way to prepare them to use safely without destroying their

>useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.



I would not want to eat them no matter how they were prepared if pesticides

were used in the last year or two.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: question about dandelions

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 03:04:40 GMT

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>I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

>of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

>four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

>not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

>there be any way to prepare them

>to use safely without destroying their

>useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.

>



I would suggest staying away from them. Herbacides and pesticides tend to have

very long lives in the soil. Systemic takes 25 years to break down, while

dioxin takes 100 years.





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Subject: Re: question about dandelions

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:54:03 +0000

--------

HerbAssist wrote:

> 

> >I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

> >of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

> >four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

> >not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

> >there be any way to prepare them

> >to use safely without destroying their

> >useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.

> >

> 

> I would suggest staying away from them. Herbacides and pesticides tend to have

> very long lives in the soil. Systemic takes 25 years to break down, while

> dioxin takes 100 years.



Hi,



Do you people eat NO commercially produced non-organic vegetables /

fruit etc?  Last summer while I was out wildcrafting (ho ho, rather

grand term for knocking about picking a few berries) I was careful to

avoid the edges of fields in case of pesticide run off etc etc.



Then I thought, hang on, I eat the blumming produce from these fields

that have had the chemicals sprayed right on them - why am I worried

about some possible secondary contamination?  



We do try and eat organic wherever poss, but it's not 100% of the time

by any means.  I'm very anti the various "cides" on a fundamental level

but admit to being maybe surprised that they don't seem to cause more

problems among the majority who don't care / can't afford organic. Or is

it all just being stored up for future health troubles?



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: question about dandelions

From: troyc@geneseo.net

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:38:18 GMT

--------

In article <19990120220440.29523.00000361@ng101.aol.com>,

  herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist) wrote:

> >I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

> >of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

> >four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

> >not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

> >there be any way to prepare them

> >to use safely without destroying their

> >useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.

> >

>

> I would suggest staying away from them. Herbacides and pesticides tend to have

> very long lives in the soil. Systemic takes 25 years to break down, while

> dioxin takes 100 years.

>



Care to tell us which systemic herbicides take 25 years to break down in soil?

I'd also like to know which currently used pesticides contain dioxin.



Thanks in advance,



Troy



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Subject: Re: question about dandelions

From: troyc@geneseo.net

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:40:34 GMT

--------

In article <36A5044F.39FD@mcia.com>,

  eyoll@mcia.com wrote:

> I have some tall wild dandelions blooming beautifully in a quiet corner

> of the yard.  This is a yard that has been sprayed with pesticides about

> four months ago, but not since then.  I'm assuming these plants would

> not be safe to consume because of the spraying- is that right?  Would

> there be any way to prepare them to use safely without destroying their

> useful properties?  Thanks for any info anyone has.

>



There is no way to tell for sure since youy didn't indicate which pesticides

were used.  Without that information, the safest bet is to not consume them

this year.



Troy



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Chronic skin condition

From: "Paul Sorenson" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:31:41 +1100

--------

A friend has been diagnosed with the skin condition, "Lichen sclerosis et

atrophicus".  The doctors say it has no cure but attempt to control it with

various creams (cortisone, testosterone based).



Any information on herbal (or other) treatments would be most appreciated.



Thanks









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Subject: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: ttp328@bellsouth.net (T. Phillips)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:47:19 GMT

--------

I just saw this book locally and was wondering if anyone had any

recommendations on it.



It is the PDR Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications  1st

Edition. It is published by the  same company that publishes the blue

hardback PDR reference medical doctors use for prescription

medications.



It looked pretty good but at $60.00 it was polywrapped and I couldn't

look through the pages.



Thanks in advance,

T. Phillips





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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:27:22 -0800

--------

I'm not that impressed with the prescription PDR, after all it's published

by a drug company. I'm less impressed wit the herbal PDR.  I looked up St

John's Wort in the herbal PDR and it said to use as a tea. Fresh plant

tincture is the best form to use. Made my decision for me.



Ingrid









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To: "T. Phillips" <ttp328@bellsouth.net>

Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: <osha@iname.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:14:55 -0700

--------

This just recently came out and I haven't had a chance to look at it! I

can't wait and will probably buy it when I get the chance.  I am very

excited to get ahold of it though!



Emily



                Life is fabric, fabricated by fabricated lies

                if we quit fabricating the fabricated fabric

                        WE'D ALL BE NAKED- WOOHO0!!!



On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, T. Phillips wrote:



ttp328>I just saw this book locally and was wondering if anyone had any

ttp328>recommendations on it.

ttp328>

ttp328>It is the PDR Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications  1st

ttp328>Edition. It is published by the  same company that publishes the blue

ttp328>hardback PDR reference medical doctors use for prescription

ttp328>medications.

ttp328>

ttp328>It looked pretty good but at $60.00 it was polywrapped and I couldn't

ttp328>look through the pages.

ttp328>

ttp328>Thanks in advance,

ttp328>T. Phillips

ttp328>

ttp328>







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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: HealthyU@gvn.no.spam.net (Janine)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:48:11 GMT

--------

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:14:55 -0700, <osha@iname.com> wrote:



I unwrapped it, I won't buy something that expensive without being

able to look at it. I didn't care for it. It seems to be written with

chemists in mind.  I can't recall just what it said about specific

herbs I looked up, i.e., calendula, yarrow, comfrey, ones I know

about, but I remember not being impressed. A person would do better to

get a book like Barbara and Peter Theiss' 'A Family Herbal" or some

such book, Much more info in regular books.



Janine

www.gvn.net/~healthyu

where a gallon of apricot oil is ONLY $34!



>This just recently came out and I haven't had a chance to look at it! I

>can't wait and will probably buy it when I get the chance.  I am very

>excited to get ahold of it though!

>

>Emily

>

>                Life is fabric, fabricated by fabricated lies

>                if we quit fabricating the fabricated fabric

>                        WE'D ALL BE NAKED- WOOHO0!!!

>

>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, T. Phillips wrote:

>

>ttp328>I just saw this book locally and was wondering if anyone had any

>ttp328>recommendations on it.

>ttp328>

>ttp328>It is the PDR Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications  1st

>ttp328>Edition. It is published by the  same company that publishes the blue

>ttp328>hardback PDR reference medical doctors use for prescription

>ttp328>medications.

>ttp328>

>ttp328>It looked pretty good but at $60.00 it was polywrapped and I couldn't

>ttp328>look through the pages.

>ttp328>

>ttp328>Thanks in advance,

>ttp328>T. Phillips

>ttp328>

>ttp328>

>







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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: baird@gate.net (Baird Stafford)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:17:06 -0500

--------

Janine <HealthyU@gvn.no.spam.net> wrote:



> On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:14:55 -0700, <osha@iname.com> wrote:

> 

> I unwrapped it, I won't buy something that expensive without being

> able to look at it. I didn't care for it. It seems to be written with

> chemists in mind.  I can't recall just what it said about specific

> herbs I looked up, i.e., calendula, yarrow, comfrey, ones I know

> about, but I remember not being impressed. A person would do better to

> get a book like Barbara and Peter Theiss' 'A Family Herbal" or some

> such book, Much more info in regular books.



Like all PDRs, this one is written for physicians and therefore uses

proper scientific terminology, thereby rendering its information more

precise than is found in many "regular" books. The chemical formulae so

despised by the author above are the "active ingredients" in the herbs

it lists.  By doing so, one can reasonably expect to be able to

extrapolate those prescription medicines (and other herbs) with which

certain herbal remedies might conflict - perhaps with lethal results.



I was impressed with it because, along with listing the symptoms for for

which herbs may be applied with some scientific hope of success, it also

listed conditions for which many herbs are "contraindicated." This is an

area in which my experience suggests that "ordinary" books may be

somewhat less than honest:  all herbs are *not* remedies for all ills.



A couple of months ago I posted a query here as to the advisability of

using ginseng after a heart attack.  If anyone posted an informative

response it didn't reach my server - but in the _PDR for Herbal

Medications_ I did find an answer:  it is *not* advisable....



Blessed be,

Baird



-- 

Baird Stafford (baird@gate.net)

Modkin, soc.religion.paganism; Modstaff, alt.religion.wicca.moderated

"We, the Person" - <http://newstaffinc.com/person> new article every

Sunday.





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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:18:18 GMT

--------

We finally got our hands on a copy of this too and have sent it back. I don't

remember what weed we looked up but it was something harmless and had some

insane warning....a little overdone perhaps.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: jmarnell@SPAMBLOCKER.netcomuk.co.uk

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:32:05 GMT

--------

On 22 Jan 1999 22:18:18 GMT, levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044) wrote:



>We finally got our hands on a copy of this too and have sent it back. I don't

>remember what weed we looked up but it was something harmless and had some

>insane warning....a little overdone perhaps.

>

>Belinda



	At $60, it sounds a little overpriced as well. My Rx PDR only

cost $6.99. It *is* a paperback, but I can't imagine paying $60 for

the hardback version of the same thing. Sounds to me like the medical

folks have realized they aren't going to be able to stop the recent

"herbal revolution", so they want their piece of the money pie. Who

cares whether or not they approve of it, as long as they can make a

few bucks off of it. After all, they've been selling out to the drug

companies for years.

	Either that, or they're using it as their latest scare tactic,

by putting "insane" warnings on some of the completely harmless herbs.

I'd like to hear what some real Naturopaths think of it. But I still

won't shell out $60 for it. Talk about insane...



JMO,

GCM





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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:31:25 -0800

--------

I'm not a Naturopath but I an a student of herbal medicine and an RN.  I was

not impressed by the herbal PDR. Looked up St John's Wort and it said to use

it in tea form.  It's common knowledge that frsh plant tincture is the way

to go.  I think it's just a ploy for the drug companies to jump on the

herbal bandwagon.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: dsdsupport@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Stuart Davis")

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:35:07 GMT

--------

Quote snipped.

>  I didn't care for it. It seems to be written with

> chemists in mind. 

> A person would do better to

> get a book like Barbara and Peter Theiss' 'A Family Herbal" or some

> such book, Much more info in regular books.

> Janine



OTOH if you have any scientific knowledge at all the 'home herbal' type 

books are frustrating because of the lack of information and the 

imprecise, woolly approach that many of them seem to adopt. 



Stuart





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Subject: Re: PDR- Physicians Desk Reference for Herbal Medications

From: @ncnm.edu

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:48:38 +0000

--------

I'm not at all impressed with it...well I AM impressed that someone

bothered to do the research, but the depth of information is more than a

tad on the shallow end. I think it is best used by a lazy

herbally-uneducated MD to research what his/her patient is using.





peace

papa tom







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Subject: Herbal listing for pharamacy medications

From: ttp328@bellsouth.net (T. Phillips)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:47:19 GMT

--------

I am looking for a reference or listing of modern medications and the

herbs they were derived from. I hoped a list was compiled so I

wouldn't have to check each drug class one at a time.



Thanks in advance,

T. Phillips





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Subject: Doing a poll...

From: Dawn <newdawn@home.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:25:07 GMT

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I would like to know everyones favorite book on Herbs. Also please tell

me; why it is your favorite, what its approximate value was. Thank you

for your input.

Sincerely

Dawn.







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Subject: Re: Doing a poll...

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:20:34 GMT

--------

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:25:07 GMT, Dawn <newdawn@home.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>I would like to know everyones favorite book on Herbs. Also please tell

>me; why it is your favorite, what its approximate value was. Thank you

>for your input.



Michael Moore: Medicinal Plants of the Pacific West. Excellent materia medica,

and funny too.

Janice Schofield: Discovering Wild Plants. Great work on northern herbs'

medicinal and culinary value.



Henriette



--

hetta@saunalahti.fi   Helsinki, Finland    http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed

          -+- check out my picture pages - lots of changes -+-

Medicinal and Culinary herbFAQs, jpegs, database, neat stuff, archives...





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Subject: Re: Doing a poll...

From: "Ben and Jessica Stier" <jstier1@san.rr.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:19:11 -0800

--------

I have to second that Michael Moore book, it is very informative.  Explains

all sorts of things such as habitat, names, and the different uses are very

elaborate.

My all time fav. (i'm new to this still, so it may change as I learn more)

is Rosemary Gladstar's book called Herbal Healing for Women.  I am simply

enthralled with this book.  It is very exciting to me, being a woman and

all... It deals with all the phases of life and problems that arise in each

and how to deal with them all herbally.  I love her writing style and all of

the topics that she covers.  At Amozon.com paperback is 9.95$ and hardcover

is 24.95$.



jessica













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Subject: Re: FS: New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Gardening. 15 volumes, almost 3,000 pages.

From: gardendev2@aol.com4603Fspa (Gardendev2)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 03:54:41 GMT

--------

Well, I've got some thing on eBay, too.  One is Field Guide to Wildflowers of

the Pacific Coast. (now out of print)



But I didn't think this newsgroup was supposed to be used to market or promote

things.



But, if you are interested, it's listed under "hiking"  LOL





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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: nuwisha420@aol.com (Nuwisha420)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:08:35 GMT

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It's often used to help Glacoma (sp?), chemotherapy patients, and people with

other diblitating diseases. 





Kokopelli-Laughs-at-Fools







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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:25:12 -0600

--------

Here's some information contained in "The Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants"

by Andrew Chevallier.



Constituents: Marijuana contains over 60 different types of cannabinoids,

including THC (delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol). It also contains flavonoids,

volatile oil, and alkaloids. It is the only plant to contain THC, one of the

main psychoactive constituents.



History and Folklore: In ancient Egypt, marijuana was used to treat

inflammations of the eye and "to cool the uterus." First records of

marijuana's use in India date back to about 800 BC, where it was recommended

for congestion. Marijuana also appears in Chinese medicinal literature, in

the Divine Husbandman's Classic (Shen'nong Bencaojing), written in the 1st

century AD. It was described as a treatment for "female weakness, gout,

rheumatism, malaria, beri-beri, constipation, and absentmindedness." By the

3rd century AD, the leaves were taken in an infusion or eaten whole as an

analgesic to relieve pain during surgery. Famously, Queen Victoria took

marijuana as an analgesic--in the 19th century the plant was a standard

painkiller for menstrual pain and cramps. From 1840 to 1900, over 100 papers

were published recommending marijuana as a medicine.



Medicinal Actions and Uses: Marijuana has been recommended for almost every

illness. As an analgesic, it appears to relieve pain with minimal side

effects, being particularly helpful for cancer and AIDS patients undergoing

chemotherapy. Sufferers of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, and other

muscular illnesses, marijuana can reduce neurological overactivity and

muscle spasm. It provides effective treatment for glaucoma and lowers blood

pressure. It relieves asthma, menstrual pains, pain of childbirth, and pain

due to arthritis and rhuematism. It may have value as an anti-depressant. It

encourages and induces sleep. The seeds are used in Chinese medicine as a

laxative.



Research: " Modern research shows marijuana to be an effective analgesic,

sedative, and anti-inflammatory agent. Research has focused on the

constituent THC, but it is clear that the complex of constituents within

marijuana has a significantly wider range of applications."



Hope that helps you out.



Kay



  --  kay   at   http://www.herbcare.com

              or

  --  slade   at   http://www.pensys.com/pages/slade

Spiro Mandrakos wrote in message ...

>

>

>                    I have heard that there are some medicinal uses for

>Marijuana , does anybody know what they are?

>

>

>SPIROS









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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: nyts@dorsai.org (Bart Lidofsky)

Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:54:19 GMT

--------

In article <Xyup2.130$c3.6249@homer.alpha.net>, "slade or kay henson" wrote:

>Constituents: Marijuana contains over 60 different types of cannabinoids,

>including THC (delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol). It also contains flavonoids,

>volatile oil, and alkaloids. It is the only plant to contain THC, one of the

>main psychoactive constituents.



	I have read that hops contains small amounts of THC.



>illness. As an analgesic, it appears to relieve pain with minimal side

>effects, being particularly helpful for cancer and AIDS patients undergoing

>chemotherapy. Sufferers of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, and other

>muscular illnesses, marijuana can reduce neurological overactivity and

>muscle spasm.



	Cerebral palsy is not a muscular illness. It is a symptom of brain

injury.



-- 

	Bart Lidofsky

	Systems Administrator

	New York Theosophical Society

	nyts@dorsai.org (official)

	bartl@sprynet.com (personal)







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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:42:34 -0500

--------



Bart Lidofsky wrote in message ...

>In article <Xyup2.130$c3.6249@homer.alpha.net>, "slade or kay henson"

wrote:

>>Constituents: Marijuana contains over 60 different types of cannabinoids,

>>including THC (delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol). It also contains flavonoids,

>>volatile oil, and alkaloids. It is the only plant to contain THC, one of

the

>>main psychoactive constituents.

>

> I have read that hops contains small amounts of THC.





Sorry, I believe that is incorrect.  They are relatives, with somewhat

similar chemistry, but tetrahydrocannabinol is a rather specific compound...



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: carluccit@aol.com (Carluccit)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:23:35 GMT

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to ease the nausia during chemotherapy            treatments of cancer.Also to

ease the pressure on your eyes from glaocoma.





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Subject: Re: Marijuana

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 07:26:30 GMT

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Hi Spiro,  MaryJane is known to relieve symptoms of nausea as a result of AIDS

(as in the case of Cachexia and the loss of appetite) and aiding in the feeling

of 'well being' in the case of chemo.  Our US gov believes otherwise - if only

each and every one of them suffered AIDS or Leukemia - our world might 'wake

up'.  Peace !!!





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Subject: Sennosides

From: Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 20 Jan 1999 14:44:52 GMT

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Does anyone have information on sennosides?  What is it?  Is it herbal?

What are its uses?  What are side effects,ect.?



Bj







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Subject: Re: Sennosides

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 03:19:52 GMT

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>Does anyone have information on sennosides?  What is it?  Is it herbal?

>What are its uses?  What are side effects,ect.?

>



Sennosides are glycosides found within the herb Senna. There are 4 of them

referred to as sennosides A,B,C, and D.

Senna is a harsh laxative. Personally I do not care for it because of its

ability to cause cramping, and it can casue a laxative dependence with

repetative use.





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Subject: Re: Sennosides

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:41:53 GMT

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On 20 Jan 1999 14:44:52 GMT, Bob and Sue Jerin <banjelacic@worldnet.att.net>

wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>Does anyone have information on sennosides?  What is it?  Is it herbal?

>What are its uses?  What are side effects,ect.?



Active constituents in senna, a contact laxative.



I wouldn't want senna dependence on anybody. The longer you use it the more you

need (until you're up to a pound of senna leaf tea a week). 

And it's very hard to break the habit, too.



Henriette



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Subject: high blood-pressure

From: mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Michael Shearer")

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:52:15 GMT

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Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?



Michael

mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:23:22 -0600

--------

Diet and nutrition changes are the first and foremost in treatment.

You can try garlic, hawthorn berries, mistletoe, rauwolfia, and periwinkle.

Cayenne mixed with vegetable juices is a good way to lower high blood

pressure also. Detoxification using a fasting program is suggested, because

detoxifying helps to cleanse the body of toxins which may be causing it.

Plus, a good wellness program would teach you nutrition.



Kay





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"Michael Shearer" wrote in message ...

>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

>

>Michael

>







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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 00:35:59 GMT

--------

>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

>

>Michael

>mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk



Tincture of Motherwort has helped a friends of mine. Use it two weeks out of

every month.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: "Ben and Jessica Stier" <jstier1@san.rr.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:29:57 -0800

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This was posted in alt.aromatherapy and the author said I could share it

with you:



I have high blood pressure and have made the following blend for myself.

1 ounce carrier oil

3 drops helichrysum

4 drops blue [german] chamomile

16 drops lavender

massage into area under collarbone at bedtime.  I also put on pulse points

at

wrist and elbows.  I have been able to lower my blood pressure to a safe

level

using this every night.

Peace be with you,

Bonnie

***********

visit Stones and Scents website at:

http://members.aol.com/bkirby4687



This is using essential oils, not the whole herb but it may be of some help

to you.

good health,

jessica













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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 02:44:46 GMT

--------

>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?



Increasing your magnesium intake is a simple way to lower the blood pressure.

It displaces calcium out of the nerve synapse, controlling the blood vessels,

causing the blood vessels to relax. Herbally I like coleus forskohlii, os

smoothe muscle relaxants such as cramp bark or silk tassel. 





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:45:51 GMT

--------

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:52:15 GMT, mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Michael

Shearer") wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?



Lots of herbal suggestions posted in this thread. 



More important than all those herbs is your lifestyle. Lower your stress and

check your diet. 



If that cannot be blamed have your MD check you for real problems. 

If he/she can't find anything wrong with your heart or kidneys, go for the

herbs.



However, HBP as measured in numbers isn't too important, if you have none of the

discomforts that it brings with it.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 06:50:43 -0800

--------





Henriette Kress wrote:

If that cannot be blamed have your MD check you for real problems.



> If he/she can't find anything wrong with your heart or kidneys, go for the

> herbs.

>

> However, HBP as measured in numbers isn't too important, if you have none of the

> discomforts that it brings with it.



Lets examine this statement.  HBP has long been known as "the silent killer", as

many times elevated blood pressure's first physical signs are at TIA, stroke or

heart attack, etc.,



Many of the initial symptoms, such as headache are also cause more frequently by

other factors.



In the US anyway, most any pharmacy will test your BP for free any time.  A home

test kit is as low as $30.  It makes no sense to live with something as high risk as

HBP until it starts showing symptoms.  I beleive preventive medicine is of great

value here.



Gordon Held







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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: donwiss@spamnot.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:15:15 GMT

--------

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, <mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk> Michael Shearer asked:



>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?



I have three things:



(1) In the book: Can A GLUTEN-FREE DIET HELP? How? by Lloyd Rosenvold,

M.D., he states that a study was done in the 1930's where a group with high

blood pressure was put on a gluten-free diet. The whole group experienced a

reduction in bp. At almost the same time, the first really effective

medication for reducing bp was put on the market. The study was soon

forgotten, and patients were given a magic pill to help high bp. Taking a

pill is a lot easier than following a gluten-free diet.



(2) Dr. Robert Atkins in his "Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution" and maybe

also in "Dr. Atkins' Health Revolution" says that in his clinical

experience, hypertension is very often the result of hyperinsulinism, and

is often controlled well by strictly eliminating sugar from the diet, and

in some people, also tightly limiting carbohydrates.  He has a lot of

experience with those kinds of diet restrictions, of course, because his

obesity practice is based on the low-carbohydrate diet.



(3) Improve the ratio between potassium and sodium. Americans tend to have

a high sodium diet which changes the ratio. In the book "The K-Factor", by

Richard D. Moore, M.D., Ph.D., and George D. Webb, Ph.D. (NY: Macmillan,

1986, ISBN 0-02-586190-5.) it makes a very persuasive case that most cases

of hypertension can be controlled nicely merely by getting your potassium

intake up to about 4 times your sodium intake.



Don (donwiss at panix com).





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: "Bill-O.Scale" <bill-o.scale@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 23 Jan 1999 14:44:10 GMT

--------

One word.  EXERCIZE!



"Michael Shearer" wrote in message ...

>Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

>

>Michael

>mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk









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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:13:36 +0000

--------

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> 

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> 

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> 

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like, just eat less - pah-leez!  as if it could be that simple..  ..



Nick





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:38:14 GMT

--------

Michael Shearer wrote:

> 

> Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

> 

> Michael

> mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk



think about it. herbs were selected medicinally, because they may cure

things you can feel. high bp you don't feel. 



if there was a chemical in an herb which lowers bp it would have to work

in the same pathways that the prescription drugs work. and if it worked

well the drug companies would have bought it up years ago and use it in

their drugs. 



the problem with non prescription drugs is dosage, efficacy and

reliability.

regards.





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: m8636@abc.se (Staffan Nielsen)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:10:44 GMT

--------

jwwright (jwwright@livingston.net) wrote:

> Michael Shearer wrote:

> > 

> > Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

> > 

> > Michael

> > mshearera@cix.compulink.co.uk



> think about it. herbs were selected medicinally, because they may cure

> things you can feel. high bp you don't feel. 



> if there was a chemical in an herb which lowers bp it would have to work

> in the same pathways that the prescription drugs work. and if it worked

> well the drug companies would have bought it up years ago and use it in

> their drugs. 



You mean, like digitalin from Foxglove (Digitalis Purpurea)? You're right,

it's a prescription drug, because it is very poisonous if handled with less

than utmost care. It is accumulated in the body, and it can go to lethal

levels if you don't take a long enough break in the medication once in a

while. 



It was discovered by modern science when modern science found out that an

old wise-woman was using it to cure people.



Let the doctors handle it. It is a dangerous drug.



S.





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:08:04 GMT

--------

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:38:14 GMT, jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Michael Shearer wrote:

>> Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

>

>if there was a chemical in an herb which lowers bp it would have to work

>in the same pathways that the prescription drugs work. and if it worked

>well the drug companies would have bought it up years ago and use it in

>their drugs.



I disagree. 

Herbs do not necessarily work like drugs. (In fact, very few do.)

Herbalists do not necessarily work like doctors ;)  (In fact, very few do.)



So. If you came to me with high blood pressure I'd check for a couple things:

1) are your kidneys working, ie. are you getting rid of excess water like you

should or are you retaining it, giving you high BP?

2) is your heart ok? Blue lips are a bad sign, and swollen ankles might be bad

too.

3) how's your stress levels? Screaming kids all around you, and your boss wanted

that report last week? Uh-huh.

4) how's your diet? salt intake?

5) how's your liver? Is your bp high because you've so much crud in your blood

that your kidneys compensate by retaining water, giving you a higher bp?



...that's just for starters.

Once the problem is identified it's easy to choose the right herbs. And if it's

a -real- heart problem (not liver, kidney, diet or lifestyle related) it's easy

to tell you to pay your favorite MD a visit.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:12:00 GMT

--------

Henriette Kress wrote:

> 

> On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:38:14 GMT, jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net> wrote in

> alt.folklore.herbs:

> 

> >Michael Shearer wrote:

> >> Any suggestions for a herbal approach to trying to reduce blood-pressure?

> >

> >if there was a chemical in an herb which lowers bp it would have to work

> >in the same pathways that the prescription drugs work. and if it worked

> >well the drug companies would have bought it up years ago and use it in

> >their drugs.

> 

> I disagree.

> Herbs do not necessarily work like drugs. (In fact, very few do.)

> Herbalists do not necessarily work like doctors ;)  (In fact, very few do.)

> 

> So. If you came to me with high blood pressure I'd check for a couple things:

> 1) are your kidneys working, ie. are you getting rid of excess water like you

> should or are you retaining it, giving you high BP?

> 2) is your heart ok? Blue lips are a bad sign, and swollen ankles might be bad

> too.

> 3) how's your stress levels? Screaming kids all around you, and your boss wanted

> that report last week? Uh-huh.

> 4) how's your diet? salt intake?

> 5) how's your liver? Is your bp high because you've so much crud in your blood

> that your kidneys compensate by retaining water, giving you a higher bp?

> 

> ...that's just for starters.

> Once the problem is identified it's easy to choose the right herbs. And if it's

> a -real- heart problem (not liver, kidney, diet or lifestyle related) it's easy

> to tell you to pay your favorite MD a visit.

> 

> Henriette

> 

> --

other than dilating arterioles, reducing cardiac output, excreting salt,

exactly what other paths are there? exactly how do these herbs work? how

do you identify hypertension herbally? 



regards.





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:25:41 GMT

--------

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:12:00 GMT, jwwright <jwwright@livingston.net> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>other than dilating arterioles, reducing cardiac output, excreting salt,

>exactly what other paths are there? 



Your thinking is wrong. Why should I even -mention- cardiac or circulatory

problems? Often they're not the cause of high bp. Get at the CAUSE, don't mask

symptoms.

So, like I said:

Get your liver to work to get rid of crud in your blood -> lower blood volume ->

lower bp, if that's the cause of your high bp.

Get your kidneys to work like they should on regulating blood volume -> lower

bp, if that's the cause of it.

Reduce stress, if that's the cause of it.

Reduce salt intake, if that's the cause of it.



>exactly how do these herbs work? how do you identify hypertension herbally? 



The usual - you stand up and your head pounds. 

However, I don't work like that. Numbers are irrelevant if you don't have any

symptoms. What's normal bp numbers for you might be too high or too low for me.



Herbalists don't work like doctors. For example, as an herbalist I look for

imbalances in all and any organ systems, and use herbs to achieve a balance. I

don't take a cuff reading and say "Aha, high BP. Take this herb."



Henriette



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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: curiosa90@aol.com (Curiosa90)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 03:18:29 GMT

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I would first look at lifestyle. See what you can change there. 

Cayenne is a good herb in regulating blood pressure/high or low.





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Subject: Re: high blood-pressure

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:15:50 +0000

--------

Jeez



Would anyone self medicate for a heart problem?



Not me, that's for flaming sure.



Nick





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Subject: Herbal help for diabetes on "Extra" last nite

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 20 Jan 1999 21:54:45 GMT

--------

Hi Everyone,



Did anyone catch the story on "Extra" last night about the herbal diabetes

blend?



A young girl had the very worst type of diabetes, and had a bad reaction to

insulin, where she required huge amounts and got very little benefit from

it.    Her mother took her to an Indian (eastern) herbal expert and holy

man, who claimed to receive the inspiration from god to make this blend of

herbs.    He went to India and took a couple more months to develop the

blend, and calls it "Pancreas booster" or something like that.



Strange to say, this blend of herbs is actually working for this young girl

who had no other hope!   They claimed on the show that this is being tested

now, and may be made available soon, but gave no other information.



Everyone knows someone suffering from this awful disease..... I was just

curious if I was the only one who saw the segment or if anyone knows any

more about the product involved?



This sounded to be something so important and the only place it was

mentioned was on one show!



Regards,

Evelyn









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Subject: Re: Herbal help for diabetes on "Extra" last nite

From: "FlagShip" <jriggs38@erols.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:47:46 -0500

--------



The Puddies wrote in message <785jb5$l82$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>...

>Hi Everyone,

>

>Did anyone catch the story on "Extra" last night about the herbal diabetes

>blend?

>

>A young girl had the very worst type of diabetes, and had a bad reaction to

>insulin, where she required huge amounts and got very little benefit from

>it.    Her mother took her to an Indian (eastern) herbal expert and holy

>man, who claimed to receive the inspiration from god to make this blend of

>herbs.    He went to India and took a couple more months to develop the

>blend, and calls it "Pancreas booster" or something like that.

>

>Strange to say, this blend of herbs is actually working for this young girl

>who had no other hope!   They claimed on the show that this is being tested

>now, and may be made available soon, but gave no other information.

>

>Everyone knows someone suffering from this awful disease..... I was just

>curious if I was the only one who saw the segment or if anyone knows any

>more about the product involved?

>

>This sounded to be something so important and the only place it was

>mentioned was on one show!

>

>Regards,

>Evelyn

>





I do not Know about the show you saw But I am a type 2 diabetic who has been

taking pills for mine and since I have started to work out in a gym and

taking herbs I no longer take any pills that the doctor has ask me to take

and my Sugar level has been normal.



Herbs is working for me so I will keep them up I feel better than I have

ever felt in my life and it all came about by reading every thing I could

find on herbs and diabetes.



J.R.













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Subject: Re: Herbal help for diabetes on "Extra" last nite

From: T <trustno1@gte.net>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:45:42 -0800

--------

>



     What herbs are you taking?





>

> I do not Know about the show you saw But I am a type 2 diabetic who has been

> taking pills for mine and since I have started to work out in a gym and

> taking herbs I no longer take any pills that the doctor has ask me to take

> and my Sugar level has been normal.

>

> Herbs is working for me so I will keep them up I feel better than I have

> ever felt in my life and it all came about by reading every thing I could

> find on herbs and diabetes.

>

> J.R.







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Subject: gugulipids

From: jtm336@aol.com (JTM336)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 22:38:47 GMT

--------

My MD has suggested I take gugul or gugulipid to reduce cholesteral. Tell me

about it.





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Subject: Re: gugulipids

From: ETxFreespirit@webtv.net (Jean)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:39:05 -0600 (CST)

--------

Hi -

Guggul (Commiphora mukul) common names: gugulipid, guggulu.  Mukul myrrh

is a small, thorny plant distributed throughout India.  Guggul and gum

guggulu are the names given to a yellowsh resin produced by the stem of

the plant, has been used historically and is source of modern extracts

of guggul. Guggul significantly lowers serum triglycerides and

cholesterol as well as LDL an VLDL cholesterols (bad cholesterols) and

raises "good" cholesterol. Also has been shown to reduce stickiness of

platelets.  Cautions: possible mild abdominal discomfort with long-term

use.  USE with caution by persons with liver disease and in cases of

inflammatory bowel disease and diarrhea.  For more information read the

book"The Natural Pharmacy".   I have seen some remarkable results by

people who have used guggulipids -- check your health food store.

Remember everyone is different gather information and evaluate.   You

are fortunate to have found  an MD who suggests or prescribes natural

products. Have a healthy day!  Jean





"A wise man makes his own decisions;

an ignorant man follows  public opinion."

      Chinese Proverb 

 















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Subject: Re: Garlic (Raw vs. Cooked)

From: bsage37981@aol.com (BSage37981)

Date: 20 Jan 1999 23:02:56 GMT

--------





All the data I have seen says that Cooking Garlic  Kills it's antibacterial 

properties

 which makes sence.  





>For use as an anti-fungal agent and for the control of candida (yeast in the

>body), several sources recommend raw garlic.  Recently, though, it has been

>reported (sorry I don't remember the source) that if you chop up garlic and

>let it sit a few minutes before cooking with it, the necessary chemical will

>be released and will not be destroyed by cooking.

>

>Does anyone have any verifiable information on this?

>

>Many thanks,

>Sky

>







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Subject: Re: Garlic (Raw vs. Cooked)

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 02:08:48 GMT

--------

>Recently, though, it has been

>reported (sorry I don't remember the source) that if you chop up garlic and

>let it sit a few minutes before cooking with it, the necessary chemical will

>be released and will not be destroyed by cooking.

>

>Does anyone have any verifiable information on this?

>



Actually, the chemical (created only by "crushing" raw garlic) called alyson

<English spelling?> is indeed destroyed by heat.  That's why it's best (if you

can't/won't chew raw garlic) to use an odorless garlic (in oil) supplement.







David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Garlic (Raw vs. Cooked)

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:24:44 GMT

--------

On 27 Jan 1999 02:08:48 GMT, aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Actually, the chemical (created only by "crushing" raw garlic) called alyson

                                                                       ^^^^^^

><English spelling?> is indeed destroyed by heat.  



allicin.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Garlic (Raw vs. Cooked)

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:00:29 GMT

--------

Hi,

I've noticed that it takes a very long time to slow-roast all the flavor out of

a garlic clove when it's sizzling whole in a pan of oil.  The bite is more

pronounced if you don't chop it up first, don't cook it at all... but more is

not always better.  How much allicin is your body actually absorbing or

incorporating all at once?  If your body is already challenged, if you are ill,

then it seems to me (unsubstantiated) that partially cooking the garlic may

even "gentle" it into your system... like with the beta carotene in carrots...

although too much heat destroys anything.  

Allicin isn't really CREATED by crushing the clove, it was already there; and

it isn't rendered  null and void by the first flash of heat.  Just tender the

outside of a whole clove quickly, then smash it down.  Pretend it's a carrot

and leave it some crunch.  Or simmer several cloves in some broth with a thick

slab of onion and a bay leaf until they just begin to give up some of their

flavor to the broth.  When you can taste the bay, REMOVE FROM HEAT; and lo, ye

shall be healed of all that ails ye.  It'll still make your eyes water! 

Allicin surviveth.  



P.S. What began this was a yeast infection, was it not?  There's burning...

She's on medicine and taking yogurt to replace intestinal flora, microbrial

yuck-yucks... wants to boost her immune system... HEY!  GIRLFRIEND!



Don't thin your inner linings in an effort to heal an outer one!  There are

other ways to boost your immune system which won't compete against the cure

underway!  Meanwhile, I would (and have, but this is not pro advice) apply cold

plain yogurt directly to the site, topically, to cool the burn; take a bath to

remove it 2-3 hrs later & do it again later if you have to, but don't leave it

moist too long, and avoid rubbing at all.  Stay on the medicine plan once you

start it. When the burning stops driving you crazy, don't do the yogurt thing

topically anymore, just continue with your dr.'s plan.  If you did it topically

at the very first sign and your insides were properly resplendored, it might

have been enough!  This is from experience.  Haven't had a full blown one in

ages.  Good luck.





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Subject: Re: Garlic (Raw vs. Cooked)

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:51 +0000

--------

AloeDrinks wrote:

> 



> 

> Actually, the chemical (created only by "crushing" raw garlic) called alyson

> <English spelling?> is indeed destroyed by heat.  





So that's a new branch of chemistry then - chemicals created by

crushing...



Check out the LD50 of allicin - wow, 60mg iv for mice.  



That'd add a new therapeutic category for garlic on top of

antibacterial, antifungal etc:  antimousal.  Course, you'd have to be

pretty handy with a syringe...



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Ginseng, help! was What would cause a localized burning sensation?

From: Angelica <angelica@superstition.demon.co.uk>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:09:23 +0000

--------

In article <o6yo2.1958$Qo5.5060@nnrp2.clara.net>, Boadicea

<jesslea@rjac.clara.net> releases a small spider to scrawl across the

page..

>My mother has had terrible hot flashes ever since her hysterectomy a while

>back, and one thing she's said helps is American ginseng.  Apparently the

>Korean and Japanese varieties cause the body to warm up, but the american

>variety cools.  It might be something to try...I know mom really loves it!

>

>

 I get confused when suggesting ginseng for hot flushes, I read

somewhere that panax ginseng be it American or Korean is too hot and

that Dang qui is more suited to hot flushes and menopausal symptoms.

Then again I read so many contradictory things about the properties of

Siberian ginseng (because it's not a true ginseng, but a different

plant) I'm scared to suggest it!

 Help!

-"fortune presents gifts not according to the book"- 

angelica





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal help?

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:59:44 -0600

--------

Do you know your wife's fertility cycle? I have an article written by a

midwife friend of mine that discusses some problems. If you would like, I

can post it.



Kay





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              or

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Nuwisha420 wrote in message <19990120023307.25944.00004658@ng38.aol.com>...

>My wife and I have been trying for 2 years now to get pregnant. We were

>informed thant Red Raspberry Leaves would help. Was wondering if there were

>anymore herbs that could help in anway? Thank you.

>

>

>Kokopelli-Laughs-at-Fools

>







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Subject: Re: Herbal help?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:52:19 -0800

--------

Susun Weed recommends red clover and nettles as well as red raspberry

leaves. I just made a tea blend for a friend who wants to conceive used 1 oz

of clover ozof nettles 2 oz red raspberry.

Check out "Wise Women Healing for the Childbearing Years"



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Herbal help?

From: nuwisha420@aol.com (Nuwisha420)

Date: 22 Jan 1999 10:28:34 GMT

--------



>Check out "Wise Women Healing for the Childbearing Years"



And where might I be able to find that? BTW, thank you ll for your info. 





Kokopelli-Laughs-at-Fools







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Herbal help?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:48:15 -0800

--------

>>>Check out "Wise Women Healing for the Childbearing Years"



And where might I be able to find that? BTW, thank you ll for your info. >>



You could check your local bookstore (I mush prefer to thingk globally and

act locally) but you can get it at Amazon.com



Ingrid











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Griffonia  /  graphonia  simplicifolia ???

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:01:40 +0000

--------

Why can't I find this in any of my books?  Does anyone have a synonym

that I should be looking under?  



Someone suggested "Bandeireae" but I can't find that either (love those

tripthongs though).





Thanks gang



Nick





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: A counsel for a new mother

From: "Invernomuto" <invernomuto_mail@iol.it>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:25:40 +0100

--------

A friend of mine has a baby.

She's at the end of the nursing time (don't know if "nursing" is the right

word:

I mean a mother who gives her milk to baby :-).

She's loosing a lot of hair and specific shampooes or cremes have no

effects.

Any counsel?



Lot of  thanks!



Davide (invernomuto_mail@iol.it)





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Subject: Re: A counsel for a new mother

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:00:15 GMT

--------



Invernomuto wrote in message <787nuo$cjt$1@nslave1.tin.it>...

>A friend of mine has a baby.

>She's at the end of the nursing time (don't know if "nursing" is the right

>word:

>I mean a mother who gives her milk to baby :-).

>She's loosing a lot of hair and specific shampooes or cremes have no

>effects.

>Any counsel?

>

>Lot of  thanks!

>

>Davide (invernomuto_mail@iol.it)





Hello Davide,



This is probably some hormonal glitch.   Has she seen a doctor about it yet?



After one has a baby, for a couple of months there are lots of hormonal

changes affecting many areas, psychological and physical.    Usually they

are temporary, although some go away faster than others.



Regards,

Evelyn









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: A counsel for a new mother

From: "Charles" <charley*nospam*@canada.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:43 -0400

--------



Invernomuto wrote in message <787nuo$cjt$1@nslave1.tin.it>...

>A friend of mine has a baby.

>She's at the end of the nursing time (don't know if "nursing" is the right

>word:

>I mean a mother who gives her milk to baby :-).

>She's loosing a lot of hair and specific shampooes or cremes have no

>effects.

>Any counsel?

>

>Lot of  thanks!

>

>Davide (invernomuto_mail@iol.it)



    How much is "a lot of hair"? Does she have bald spots? If she does, this

could be alopicea. It can be caused by many things (including medications

and stress). Definitely worth consulting a doctor.



     I also nursed my babies and suffered from hair loss. It took up to

three years after I weaned the youngest for my hair to grow back in; now it

is thicker and healthier than ever! The hair loss could be from hormonal

changes but, hey, I'm not an MD. When in doubt consult a qualified

physician.



    Also, I have put a few drops of rosemary oil in my daughter's shampoo;

it is said to stimulate and promote hair growth.  Don't know if it is

working yet; it's only been three weeks.



Good luck to your friend.



C.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: A counsel for a new mother

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:34:09 -0600

--------

Women quite normally lose hair after pregnancy because the natural process

that causes normal hair loss is inhibited by pregnancy. If she has stopped

nursing it is quite possible that she has decreased her food intake, and the

hormones that the body produces are decreasing as well. This is a normal

process and as far as I know it can't be prevented or stopped. This will

appear to be rather alarming, it seems to come out in handfuls, but unless

she is developing sudden thin spots, she needn't worry about it.



Hilary



Invernomuto wrote in message <787nuo$cjt$1@nslave1.tin.it>...

>A friend of mine has a baby.

>She's at the end of the nursing time (don't know if "nursing" is the right

>word:

>I mean a mother who gives her milk to baby :-).

>She's loosing a lot of hair and specific shampooes or cremes have no

>effects.

>Any counsel?

>

>Lot of  thanks!

>

>Davide (invernomuto_mail@iol.it)









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: A counsel for a new mother

From: "Beth" <artemis@epix.net>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:42:47 -0500

--------



Invernomuto wrote in message <787nuo$cjt$1@nslave1.tin.it>...

>

>She's loosing a lot of hair and specific shampooes or cremes have no

>effects.

>Any counsel?

>

>This just happened to me.  I found using baby shampoo slowed down the hair

loss.  And I waited until my hair was dry before I brushed it,,, then I did

it very gently!  It was just a phase...almost 3 momths.  Once I noticed the

hair was growing back, I was less alarmed.  Now my worry is my son pulling

my hair out!

Beth









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Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.witchcraft,misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Aquarius magical herbs and stones

From: sky@skyguides.com

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:42:51 GMT

--------

The Sun entered Aquarius January 20th at 7:38 am EST and will transit this

sign until February 18th 9:47 am EST. The Sign Aquarius is ruled by Uranus

and co-ruled by Saturn.  Aquarius is an air sign and is fixed by mode. Thus

Aquarians can be very eccentric by nature and unmovable in their opinions.

The symbol of Aquarius is the water bearer who pours out spiritual energy to

all of mankind.  They are great humanitarians and friendship is very

important to them.  They are very loyal once a friendship has been forged. 

They love the unusual and new innovative people, things, and places.  The key

phrase for Aquarius is "I Know" thus indicating that they have a bit of

intuition.



The healing and magical herbs associated with Aquarius are myrrh, spearment,

pine, bergamont, cypress, eucalyptus, frankincense, pepperwort, and pine.





The gemstone's associated with Aquarius are opals, sapphires, and the semi-

precious stones are garnet, amethyst, jade, jasper, and zircon.



Happy Birthday Aquarians!



Let the Sky be Your Guide!

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Subject: children & healing

From: warehs@aol.com (WAREHS)

Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:39:52 GMT

--------

I am trying to find information on any institutions, hospitals, groups, etc.

that use gardens and their healing power to assist children going through

catastrophic illnesses.  Does anyone have ideas on where I can look, any places

that use gardens for healing, any newsgroups, websites, etc.?  Thanks.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: incoherence

From: "WJ Jeansson" <risa@bigpond.com>

Date: 22 Jan 1999 14:32:19 +1000

--------

Hi there,

I am writing a story in which one of my characters is drugged with a herb

that makes him weak and incoherent. Can anyone tell me of a herb that will

do this and the antidote or perhaps one that does this only if constantly

taken and wears off if the dosage is stopped. The story is set in the

middle ages in Europe



Thanks

Wendy

wjj@startrekmail.com





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: incoherence

From: "Sos" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:15:03 +1100

--------

Fermented grapes.



WJ Jeansson wrote in message <01be45b9$a5116700$1dae868b@signup>...

>Hi there,

>I am writing a story in which one of my characters is drugged with a herb

>that makes him weak and incoherent. Can anyone tell me of a herb that will

>do this and the antidote or perhaps one that does this only if constantly

>taken and wears off if the dosage is stopped. The story is set in the

>middle ages in Europe

>

>Thanks

>Wendy

>wjj@startrekmail.com









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: incoherence

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:50:17 GMT

--------

On 22 Jan 1999 14:32:19 +1000, "WJ Jeansson" <risa@bigpond.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>I am writing a story in which one of my characters is drugged with a herb

>that makes him weak and incoherent. Can anyone tell me of a herb that will

>do this and the antidote or perhaps one that does this only if constantly

>taken and wears off if the dosage is stopped. The story is set in the

>middle ages in Europe



For this one I'd try (in Nick's words) an infusion of hops. Fermented works

better.

You could also try an alcohol extract with juniper, with some ice.



In the same vein, I got this by private email long ago:

>Hello! I am in the middle of writing a short story,and i'm afraid that

>my drive for perfecion has stumped me on one particular aspect of my

>creation, and i cannot continue until i have an accurate herbal answer.

>My main character is slowly poisoning her husband with a tea that is

>slowly killing him. The only symptoms are headaches that plague him

>unless he gets this particlar poison everyday. is there such an herb, or

>have i painted myself into a corner?  



Back then I said that yep, there is such an herb, and it's called coffee. Add

milk and sugar for a faster demise.



I don't give straight answers to any question that goes more or less "How do I

use herbs to do somebody in?".

This is usually a "I'm writing a story" -question. BUT:

a) how do you know that? and 

b) if you do give advice that works, and it is in fact a story, how do you know

somebody won't take your advice and use it, after the story is in print?



Nope. Better be careful.



Cheers

Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: incoherence

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:37:44 -0500

--------

Well, opium comes to mind...  That's papaver somniferum, the opium poppy, or

more properly the material obtained by carefully incising the green (unripe)

seed capsules and collecting and drying the gummy liquid that exudes from

the wounds.  Would produce exactly the symptoms you describe, or perhaps mix

it with some belladonna or scopolia root to enhance the effect.  Only

problem with using one of the tropane-producing plants alone (belladonna,

scopolia, henbane, datura/Jimsonweed, European mandrake) is that they can

cause mania as easily as stupor, and they would not necessarily wear off

very quickly; one of the original stories of the American colonies relates

how some men who consumed "Jamestown Weed" (Jimsonweed or Datura stramonium)

by mistake were out of it for several *days*.  And of course the difference

between an effective dose and a potentially lethal one is rather small...

Oh, and sufficiently large doses of hashish (the concentrated resinous

material collected from certain varieties of Cannabis) might also work.



Both opium and a number of the various tropane-producing plants were known

in Europe back then.  Not sure about hashish - I suspect not, unless there's

a Middle-Eastern connection.



-Rich



WJ Jeansson wrote in message <01be45b9$a5116700$1dae868b@signup>...

>Hi there,

>I am writing a story in which one of my characters is drugged with a herb

>that makes him weak and incoherent. Can anyone tell me of a herb that will

>do this and the antidote or perhaps one that does this only if constantly

>taken and wears off if the dosage is stopped. The story is set in the

>middle ages in Europe

>

>Thanks

>Wendy

>wjj@startrekmail.com









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Mannatech

From: "snowman" <lookinging_close@hotmail.com>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:27:18 -0800

--------

I am looking for people that have tried mannatech ,with a nonbiased opinion.

Please dont be a Mannatech "associate"( I like that) or someone trying to

sell it to me. Just your experiances with it, please.



Also would like to know if there have been any definative blind studies done

by reputable medical associations that can confirm any of it claims.



If someone is try to sell you a dimond ring for ten cents it is probly not

worth a dime. I am open minded but need ,some sort of study that dosent use

vauge words to describe its benafits.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.















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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: linder flower

From: "A. Nonperson" <anon@via-net.net>

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:55:55 -0500

--------

can anyone suggest the uses for this herb?   It seems that few know of

it and even fewer are willing to share any info ..... help

anon

--------

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Card for A. Nonperson

vcard.vcf



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: linder flower

From: herbassist@aol.com (HerbAssist)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 01:44:18 GMT

--------

I think you are talking about linden (lime) flowers which calm the nerves and

lower the blood pressure.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: linder flower

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:19:05 GMT

--------

"A. Nonperson" <anon@via-net.net> wrote:



>can anyone suggest the uses for this herb?   It seems that few know of

>it and even fewer are willing to share any info ..... help

>anon



  Linden flower is a mild sedative - great for occasional bouts

of sleeplessness when made into a tea.  

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: linder flower

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:48:32 GMT

--------

>"A. Nonperson" <anon@via-net.net> wrote:

>

>>can anyone suggest the uses for this herb?   It seems that few know of

>>it and even fewer are willing to share any info ..... help

>>anon

>

>  Linden flower is a mild sedative - great for occasional bouts

>of sleeplessness when made into a tea.  

>Tsu Dho Nimh



Good immune system strengthener  too.



Belinda









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: linder flower

From: "Infomaui" <infomaui@mauigateway.com>

Date: 23 Jan 1999 09:28:35 GMT

--------

There is very good information on Henriette Herbals and

Michael Moore. And there are lots of Herbal encyclopedias

that talk about Lynden tree and its flowers. I understand

the berries are poisonous??? Do not remember exactly.

Good Luck, Chris



A. Nonperson <anon@via-net.net> wrote in article

<36A9100B.C9D52175@via-net.net>...

> can anyone suggest the uses for this herb?   It seems that few know of

> it and even fewer are willing to share any info ..... help

> anon

> 





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: GBL vs. GABA (and are they safe?)

From: cricket853@aol.com223 (Cricket853)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 02:00:52 GMT

--------

Can someone please tell me what the difference is between Gamma Butyrolactone

and Gamma Amino Buteric Acid???  I read that the FDA was concerned about some

side effects in GBL.  Does anyone know if either product is truly dangerous? 

It seems like many problems with the products result from abnormally large

doses.



Linda

cricket853@aol.com





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Yeast Fighters

From: maggiecttr@aol.com (Maggiecttr)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 04:22:09 GMT

--------

I'm on antibiotics and am bothered with burning (no redness or other symptoms)

from yeast. I'm taking Nystatin, plain yogurt and acidophilus. Any other good

yeast fighters I can use? thanks!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Fighters

From: "Service Center" <servicec@gsinet.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:20:42 -0500

--------

Maggie,

Having had a yeast infection on and off for about 10 years, I can relate to

your seeking all avenues to alleviate the condition.  I have found that

eliminating as much sugar (by itself and in food) as possible is very

helpful in getting rid of the infection faster.  Also, drinking adequate

amounts of water (not in drinks or teas, just pure) is very helpful.



Maggiecttr wrote in message

<19990122232209.01051.00000501@ng-ch1.aol.com>...

>I'm on antibiotics and am bothered with burning (no redness or other

symptoms)

>from yeast. I'm taking Nystatin, plain yogurt and acidophilus. Any other

good

>yeast fighters I can use? thanks!









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Fighters

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 14:18:48 GMT

--------

>I'm on antibiotics and am bothered with burning (no redness or other

>symptoms)

>from yeast. I'm taking Nystatin, plain yogurt and acidophilus. Any other good

>yeast fighters I can use? thanks!



Make sure the yogurt you are eating has live culture in it, not many have. You

might try actually putting the yogurt where it hurts too. Try eating more

fermented foods as well.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Fighters

From: ETxFreespirit@webtv.net (Jean)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:27:34 -0600 (CST)

--------

Are you talking about Candida albicans which is a fungus which causes

yeast infection. Check your diet - a well balanced diet low in fats,

sugars, simple carbohydrates and refined foods is important.  This yeast

feeds on sugars. You indicated you were taking lactobacilus acidophilus

which produce lactic acid which acts like a natural antibiotic.

Garlc may be helpful and many people find that pau d'arco is VERY

beneficial. Some use cranberry capsules or drink REAL cranberry juice.

Check your health food store.

Have a healthy day!    Jean

PS - drink lots of good water.





"A wise man makes his own decisions;

an ignorant man follows  public opinion."

      Chinese Proverb 

 















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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Yeast Fighters

From: kesl@my-dejanews.com

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:35:37 GMT

--------



> Are you talking about Candida albicans which is a fungus which causes

> yeast infection. Check your diet - a well balanced diet low in fats,

> sugars, simple carbohydrates and refined foods is important.  This yeast



Hi !



Where can I find this diet I (my wife) should follow?

Thanks a lot!



Matjaz



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Question about ginger

From: "Dreago" <dreago@f-a-s-t.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:40:55 -0500

--------

I'm new to the group and the whole herbal thing and had a question I thought

you could help me with. I see that ginger is supposed to help with

seasickness. Is there anything wrong with chewing a little bit of the root

while out on the water? I've seen folks say to take it in pill form or to

drink it as tea, but never have seen mention of chewing on the root. Is it

too strong this way???Does it taste bad??? Any help would be greatly

appreciated.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Question about ginger

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:55:04 -0800

--------

I don't see why you couldn't chew on the root. You do need to do your first

dose before you go out on the water. And it might taste kind of strong. I

suppose you could use candied ginger.



Ingrid









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Question about ginger

From: steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:36:24 GMT

--------

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:40:55 -0500, "Dreago" <dreago@f-a-s-t.net>

wrote:



>I'm new to the group and the whole herbal thing and had a question I thought

>you could help me with. I see that ginger is supposed to help with

>seasickness. Is there anything wrong with chewing a little bit of the root

>while out on the water? I've seen folks say to take it in pill form or to

>drink it as tea, but never have seen mention of chewing on the root. Is it

>too strong this way???Does it taste bad??? Any help would be greatly

>appreciated.

>



I chew the root quite a lot. If you get the thick, juicy pieces (1"

thick or over) they are quite pleasant to eat. They have a slightly

sweet taste once you get use to the spiciness. The thin bits tend to

be too spicy to chew and not as sweet.





Steve

--

Stephen Wolstenholme

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http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk





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Subject: Re: Question about ginger

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:08:15 -0600

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Ginger was recommended to me as a method to curb morning sickness during

pregnancy. You can buy it candied (I see little Mexican or Chinese spice and

food racks all over places like Wal-Mart and Winn Dixie with things like

cones of brown sugar and pine nuts and candied ginger). Personally I didn't

care for the taste just eaten out of the jar (McCormick and Schilling both

sell it also), but you can bake it into cookies (I would cut it up fine) or

muffins like a fruit cake (ginger is a common addition with the green

cherries and the orange bits and the dates and nuts; for medicinal purposes

I would use mostly the candied ginger).  You can even purchase or make (if

you homebrew) a ginger beer which I have heard curbs nausea quite well.



You could take it in pill form if you don't like the taste. Personally I

would eat it as much as possible in it's "real" state because I dislike

having to take pills. Plus when I was pregnant it seemed wiser to avoid too

many supplements because you can't overdose on the vitamins in food but you

can on pills. That is obviously provided you are not eating something like

sedative herbs, etc. Common sense rules always.



Hilary



Dreago wrote in message <78br7q$olu$1@east44.supernews.com>...

>I'm new to the group and the whole herbal thing and had a question I

thought

>you could help me with. I see that ginger is supposed to help with

>seasickness. Is there anything wrong with chewing a little bit of the root

>while out on the water? I've seen folks say to take it in pill form or to

>drink it as tea, but never have seen mention of chewing on the root. Is it

>too strong this way???Does it taste bad??? Any help would be greatly

>appreciated.

>

>









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Subject: Re: Question about ginger

From: Janine@HealthyU.nospam.ing.net (Janine)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 03:42:03 GMT

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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:08:15 -0600, "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

wrote:



Ginger, candied is in many grocery stores. It is excellent for nausea,

seasickness, etc. I eat it when driving on winding roads, or on the

ocean. It also helps with headaches and upset stomachs.



Janine

www.healthyu.net





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Subject: Herbs Dont work

From: evilskai@hotmail.com

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 06:42:12 GMT

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alternative health practices Health or medical practices are called

"alternative" if they are based on untested, untraditional or unscientific

principles, methods, treatments or knowledge. "Alternative" medicine is often

based upon metaphysical beliefs and is frequently anti-scientific. Because

truly "alternative" medical practices would be ones that are known to be

equally or nearly equally effective, most "alternative" medical practices are

not truly "alternative." If the "alternative" health practice is offered

along with traditional medicine, it is referred to as "complementary"

medicine.



It is estimated that "alternative" medicine is a $15 billion a year business.

Traditionally, most insurance companies have not covered "alternative"

medicine, but American Western Life Insurance Company is typical of a growing

trend. It offers a network of about 300 providers in California, Arizona,

Colorado, New Mexico and Utah specializing in acupuncture, aromatherapy,

biofeedback, chiropractic, herbal medicine, massage, naturopathy, reflexology

and yoga, among other therapies. Also, Mutual of Omaha Insurance Co. has

reimbursed clients for the costs of a non-surgical "alternative" therapy for

heart disease. Dr. Dean Ornish, an internist and director of the Preventive

Medicine Research Institute in Sausalito, developed the therapy, which

includes a vegetarian diet, meditation and exercise. Mutual of Omaha was

quick to note that they were not opening the door to covering all forms of

"alternative" therapies. They considered Dr. Ornish's treatment to have been

proven to be effective.



The National Institutes of Health's Office of Alternative Medicine has

supported a number of research studies of unorthodox cures, including the use

of shark cartilage to treat cancer and the effectiveness of bee pollen in

treating allergies. The most popular "alternative" therapies are relaxation

techniques, chiropractic, herbal medicine and massage. Very few scientific

studies are done by "alternative" practitioners. Indeed, many disdain science

in favor of metaphysics, faith and magical thinking.



Why is "alternative" health care so popular?



The New England Journal of Medicine reported on a study in January 1993 which

showed that about one-third of American adults sought some sort of unorthodox

therapy during the preceding year. Why is "alternative" health care [AHC] so

popular? There are several reasons.



Drugs and surgery are not part of AHC. Fear of surgery and of the side

effects of drugs alienate many people from traditional medicine. AHC is

attractive because it does not offer these frightening types of treatments.

Furthermore, traditional medicine often harms patients. AHC treatments are

usually inherently less risky and less likely to cause direct harm. Selective

thinking and confirmation bias can easily lead one to focus on cases where

surgeons amputate the wrong limb, remove the wrong part of the brain, or kill

a patient by administering too much anaesthetic or radiation. Many people

ignore the millions of patients who are alive and well today because of

surgery or drugs. They focus instead on the cases of patients who die after

"routine" surgery, who are permanently disabled because of an adverse

reaction to a drug, or who are killed by a deranged nurse acting as a

self-appointed "mercy" killer.



This fear and skepticism regarding drug treatment, hospitalization, and

surgery is not without foundation. Some harm is caused by malpractice, some

is the tragic but inevitable outcome of unpredictable reactions to drugs or

surgery. Because there are often legal issues involved, physicians and

hospitals are often not forthcoming with details of patient deaths for which

they might be responsible. Confidence in medicine erodes with each report of

"therapeutic misadventures."



Are these "therapeutic misadventures" rare? As far as I know, there has never

been a national study of the issue. There was a study done in New York in

1991 (The Harvard Medical Practice Study) which found that nearly 4 percent

of patients were harmed in the hospital and 14 percent of these died,

presumably of their hospital-inflicted injuries. Lucian L. Leape, a Boston

physician, extrapolated from this data that as many as 180,000 Americans may

be dying each year of medical injuries suffered at the hands of medical care

providers. He notes, for dramatic effect, that this is the equivalent of

three jumbo-jet crashes every two days. ("Truth about human error in

hospitals," by Abigail Trafford, editor of the Washington Post's health

section, printed in the Sacramento Bee, March 21, 1995, p. B7.)



On the other hand, the risks of being positively harmed by an "alternative"

practitioner such as homeopath, for example, are negligible when compared to

the risks of being harmed by a traditional physician dispensing powerful drugs

and performing risky surgeries. This is because a homeopath is not intervening

in any significant way. The doses they give are not likely to have any effect

on anyone. A homeopath is not likely to ever kill a patient by mistake.

"Alternative" medical treatments are essentially non-interventionist and their

risks are generally negative, not positive. The harm to the patients comes not

from positive intervention but from not getting treatment (drugs or surgery)

which would improve their health and increase their life span.



While it is true that traditional medicine is not without its risks--even

fatal risks--it is unreasonable to reject it altogether on these grounds.

Reasonable people can't ignore the diabetics now alive and well, thanks to

their drugs, or the millions of people who owe their lives to vaccinations

against lethal or crippling diseases. We can't ignore the millions whose pain

is gone thanks to surgery, or who owe their continuing existence to

successful medical treatment involving both drugs and surgery.



A reasonable response to the very real risks of treatment by traditional

health care providers is to take greater responsibility for one's treatment.

A reasonable patient cannot have blind faith in his or her physician, no

matter how godlike the doctor may seem or try to present himself. (A very

dear friend of mine who lived to be 80 thanks to pills and surgery, found

great humor in telling her physicians she knew M.D. stands for "medical

divinity.") We have to become more knowledgeable of the drugs prescribed to

us. We have to participate more in our own treatment, which means we have to

ask lots of questions and assume nothing. We can't assume that the drug the

nurse wants us to swallow is the one our physician has prescribed. (Just ask,

"What's this pill?" You should know whether you're supposed to take it or

not.) We need to seek second and third opinions, which doesn't mean look for

another doctor who will tell you what you want to hear. It means do research.

Read about your illness and the prescribed treatment for it. We can never

eliminate risk altogether when we must depend on human beings, fallible and

imperfect as we are. But we can reduce our risk by being more responsible for

our health care and being less passive. Some faith in the competence of our

health care providers is necessary, but it need not be blind faith. You may

have to have surgery to have a limb removed or an artery widened, but you may

need to make sure that the surgeon ready to operate doesn't think he's

supposed to remove your gall bladder. The young boy who was to have a leg

amputated and had written in large ink letters on his good leg "NOT THIS ONE"

may have gotten a laugh from the hospital personnel. We can admire the boy's

humor, but it is his lack of blind faith that is most admirable to a skeptic.





Traditional medicine often fails to discover the cause of an illness or to

relieve pain. This is true of AHC as well. But traditional practitioners are

not as likely to express hopefulness when their medicine fails. "Alternative"

practitioners often encourage their patients to be hopeful even when the

situation is hopeless.





When traditional medicine does discover the cause of an illness, it often

fails to offer treatment that is guaranteed to be successful. Again, AHC

offers hope when traditional medicine can't offer a safe and sure cure. A

local television news anchor rejected chemotherapy for her breast cancer in

favor of Gerson Therapy. Pat Davis follows a rigorous 13-hour-a-day regimen

of diet, exercise and coffee enemas (four a day) developed by Dr. Max Gerson.

Davis mother had had breast cancer twice, undergoing chemotherapy and a

mastectomy. Davis knew the dangers of chemotherapy and the effects of breast

surgery. She refused to accept that there were no alternatives. Gerson

therapy gives her hope. From the point of view of scientific medicine, it is

a false hope.





AHC often uses "natural" remedies. Many people believe that what is natural

is necessarily better and safer than what is artificial (such as

pharmaceuticals). Just because something is natural does not mean that it is

good, safe or healthy. There are many natural substances that are dangerous

and harmful. There are also many natural products that are ineffective and of

little or no value to ones health and well-being.





AHC is often less expensive than traditional medicine. This fact has made

"alternative" treatments attractive to Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs)

and to insurance companies, both of whom are coming to realize that it is

cheaper and thus more profitable to offer "alternative" treatments. If

"alternative" therapies were truly alternatives, it would make no sense to pay

more for the same quality treatment. However, most so-called "alternative"

therapies are not truly alternatives; they are not equally effective

treatments. Thus, the fact that they are cheaper is of little significance.





AHC is often sanctioned by state governments, which license and regulate

"alternative" practices and even protect "alternative" practitioners from

attacks by the medical establishment. Chiropractors, for example, won a major

restraint-of-trade lawsuit against the American Medical Association in 1987. A

federal judge permanently barred the AMA from "hindering the practice of

chiropractic." Being government licensed, regulated and protected is seen as

legitimizing AHC. Actually, much of the licensing and regulation is aimed at

protecting the public from frauds and quacks.





Many doctors of traditional medicine treat diseases first and people

secondly. Alternative" practitioners are often "holistic," claiming to treat

the mind, body and soul of the patient. Many people are attracted to the

spiritual and metaphysical connections made by AHC practitioners. Many AHC

patients claim that their "healers" treat them as persons and seem to care

about them, whereas traditional doctors often seem to lack good "bedside

manner." Traditional physicians often work out of large hospitals or HMOs and

see hundreds or thousands of patients for their specialized needs.

"Alternative" therapists, on the other hand, often work out of their homes or

small offices or clinics, and see many fewer patients. More importantly,

those who seek help from a traditional physician usually do not care what his

or her personal religious, metaphysical or spiritual beliefs are. Those who

seek "alternative" medicine often are attracted to the personality and

worldview of their practitioner. For example, a person with diabetes who goes

to an endocrinologist probably will not be interested in his or her

physicians belief in chi or any other spiritual or metaphysical notions.

Whether the doctor believes in God or the soul is irrelevant. What matters is

the doctors knowledge and experience with the disease. If the doctor is kind

and personable, that is all the better. A cold and indifferent "alternative"

practitioner would not have much business. A cold and indifferent traditional

physician may have patients standing in line for treatment if he or she is an

excellent physician.





Many people apparently do not understand that traditional medicine has the

same shortcomings as all other forms of human knowledge: it is fallible. It

also is correctable. Systems of thought that are fundamentally metaphysical

in nature are not testable and can therefore never be proven incorrect.

Hence, once they get established they tend to become dogmatically adhered to

and never change. The only way to change dogma is to become a heretic and set

up your own counter- dogma. When scientific medicine errs, it errs in ways

that can be corrected. Treatments and practices that are ineffective or

harmful are eventually rejected. "Alternative" practices and treatments are

often based upon faith and belief in metaphysical entities such as chi and

lend themselves to ad hoc hypotheses to explain away failure or

ineffectiveness. In scientific medicine there will be disagreement and

controversy, error and argument, testing and more testing, etc. Decisions

will be made by fallible human beings engaging in the fallible practice of

scientific medicine. Some of those decisions will be bad decisions, but in

time they will be discovered for what they are and treatments which were once

standard will be rejected and replaced with other treatments. Medicine will

grow, it will progress, it will change dramatically. Homeopathy, iridology,

reflexology, aromatherapy, therapeutic touch, etc. will not change in any

fundamental ways over the years. Their practitioners do not challenge each

other, as scientific medicine requires. Instead, "alternative" practitioners

generally do little more than reinforce each other.





"Alternative" therapies appeal to magical thinking. Ideas with little

scientific backing, such as those of sympathetic magic, are popular among

"alternative" practitioners and their clients. Traditional medicine is

rejected by some simply because it is not magical. While traditional medicine

may sometimes seem to work miracles, the miracles of modern medicine are

based on science not faith.





The main reason people seek "alternative" health care, however, is because

they think it "works." That is, they feel better, healthier, more vital,

etc., after the treatment. Those who say "alternative" medicine "works"

usually mean little more than that they are satisfied customers. For many AHC

practitioners, having satisfied customers is all the proof they need that

they are true healers. In many cases, however, a person's condition would

have improved had he or she done nothing at all. But since the improvement

came after the treatment, it is believed that the improvement must have been

caused by the treatment (the post hoc fallacy and the regressive fallacy). In

many cases, the successful treatment is due to nothing more than the placebo

effect. In some cases, treatment by traditional medicine causes more harm

than good and the improvement one feels is due to stopping the traditional

treatment rather than to starting the "alternative" one. (One reason

spiritual healers in pre-modern medicine times may have had better success

rates on the battlefield than traditional healers is due to the fact that

traditional healers often harmed their patients: e.g., infecting them while

treating them. Spiritual healers, who did nothing to the wound, didn't infect

the patient, who often healed thanks to the body's own internal healing

mechanisms.)



In many cases, the cure was actually effected by the traditional medicine

taken along with the "alternative" therapy, but the credit is given to the

"alternative." Also, many so-called cures are not really cures at all in any

objective sense. The patient may have been misdiagnosed in the first place,

so no cure actually took place. Also, a patient subjectively reports that he

or she "feels better" and that is taken as proof that the therapy is working.

Psychological effects of therapies are not identical to objective

improvements, however. A person may feel much worse but actually be getting

much better. Conversely, a person may feel much better but actually be

getting much worse.





Finally, many advocates of "alternative" therapies refuse to admit failure.

When comedian Pat Paulsen died while receiving "alternative" cancer therapy in

Tijuana, Mexico, his daughter did not accept that the therapy was useless.

Rather, she believed that the only reason her father died was because he had

not sought the "alternative" therapy sooner. Such faith is common among those

who are desperate and vulnerable, common traits among those who seek

"alternative" therapies.



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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: John@melon17.freeserve.co.uk (John )

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:10:04 GMT

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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 06:42:12 GMT, evilskai@hotmail.com wrote:





>In many cases, the cure was actually effected by the traditional medicine

>taken along with the "alternative" therapy, but the credit is given to the

>"alternative."

Um...certainly not always the case.



Gout for example can be cured by vitamin supplements.

Or would you attribut the cure to say those lovely paracetomols?



> Also, many so-called cures are not really cures at all in any

>objective sense. The patient may have been misdiagnosed in the first place,

>so no cure actually took place. 

In the UK there is a well known  magazine currently detailing one

cancer victim curing ovarian cancer purely through herbs/nutritional

supplements.She completely rejected chemo. Or do you suggest the

antibiotics might have done the trick (if she was given them)?





>Also, a patient subjectively reports that he

>or she "feels better" and that is taken as proof that the therapy is working.

>Psychological effects of therapies are not identical to objective

>improvements, however. A person may feel much worse but actually be getting

>much better. Conversely, a person may feel much better but actually be

>getting much worse.

As is often the case with traditional medicines.



However, a shrunken tumor has either shrank or not hasn't it?

>

>Finally, many advocates of "alternative" therapies refuse to admit failure.

>When comedian Pat Paulsen died while receiving "alternative" cancer therapy in

>Tijuana, Mexico, his daughter did not accept that the therapy was useless.

>Rather, she believed that the only reason her father died was because he had

>not sought the "alternative" therapy sooner. Such faith is common among those

>who are desperate and vulnerable, common traits among those who seek

>"alternative" therapies.



Makes sense to me. Sometimes a magic wand is needed perhaps.



However please note that traditional medicine is also in the same

position.



Doc says to patients next of kin: 'Sorry mam, there's nothing we can

do...he's got six weeks.....'



Please also note that the relatively recent cure for malaria was AFAIK

obtained from a herb that was known and used by the chinese for

centuries.



John









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: "Sos" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:13:31 +1100

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You will have to run that past me again.



evilskai@hotmail.com wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote ... in message

<78br03$d6n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>alternative health practices Health or medical practices are called











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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: "Michael Flynn" <michael@bayberry.freeserve.co.uk>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:40:39 -0000

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evilskai@hotmail.com wrote in message <78br03$d6n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>alternative health practices Health or medical practices are called

>"alternative" if they are based on untested, untraditional or unscientific

>principles, methods, treatments or knowledge. "Alternative" medicine is

often

>based upon metaphysical beliefs and is frequently anti-scientific. Because

>truly "alternative" medical practices







evilskai@hotmail.com wrote in message <78br03$d6n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>alternative health practices Health or medical practices are called

>"alternative" if they are based on untested, untraditional or unscientific

>principles, methods, treatments or knowledge. "Alternative" medicine is

often

>based upon metaphysical beliefs and is frequently anti-scientific. Because

>truly "alternative" medical practices would be ones that are known to be

>equally or nearly equally effective, most "alternative" medical practices

are

>not truly "alternative



i have to say that I disagree with a lot of your comments about alternative

medicine. However I think that there needs to be a lot more cooperation

between all branches of healing, whether it is herbal or your local doctor

down the street.  As for herbs, they do work! it isn't any new age mumbo

jumbo. If you have ever drunk a herbal infusion and sat quietly for a couple

of minutes you will feel exactly what parts of the body that it works on.

For instance, peppermint, you feel it opening up your sinuses, you feel it

moving the blood away from your head to your extremeties. You feel it

getting your circulation going.... this isn't the placebo effect,  I am

learning about herbal medicine at the moment and am being talk by a

practitioner. She uses this test a lot, she will give us a cup of a herbal

infusion, none of us know what it is and we tell her where we feel it

working. She doesn't tell us if we are wrong or right until after .....and

surprise surprise, so far we have always all got it right. And specific

herbs work on specific areas so it isn't like we are guessing! She has a

thorough knowledge of anatomy and an amazing knowlege of herbs. Hopefully

there are lots of other herbal doctors out there like her. Modern medicine

itself uses many of these same properties that are found in nature. The

trouble with a lot of modern medicine is that it doesn't work in cooperation

with your own bodies healing mechanisms. Eg, taking codeine for a headache

will cover up the headache, it won't help you discover the cause, it treats

the symptom instead. In a way, herbal medicine does this too, it treats the

cause, however in the case of a headache it will move the blood away from

the head to the hands and feet and other extremeties. But it can also be

preventative, drinking herbs for instance which stimulate the liver for

instance, that cleanse the body. There is a place for alternative medicine

and conventional, and it requires being intuitive about it, but also being

realistic and going to trustworthy practitioners. Science has tested a lot

of herbs, we wouldn't have modern medicine without it, but as far as reiki

and flower remedies and other alternative forms of healing, there is no

scientific testing as far as I know. I think the genuine healers might

welcome this, not a cold dissection , but perhaps this side of healing would

benefit from a regulatory system that had access to cases. People could make

informed choices.

Jacqui









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: John@melon17.freeserve.co.uk (John )

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:05:47 GMT

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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:40:39 -0000, "Michael Flynn"

<michael@bayberry.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:



>

>evilskai@hotmail.com wrote in message <78br03$d6n$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>

>i have to say that I disagree with a lot of your comments about alternative

>medicine. However I think that there needs to be a lot more cooperation

>between all branches of healing, whether it is herbal or your local doctor

>down the street.  As for herbs, they do work!



If you think about it's common sense that

herbs,vitamins etc. work in many

instances.



My wife's urologist suggested to me the

use of cranberry juice to cleanse the 

urinary tract makes IHO chemical/medical 

sense.



I know of a doctor's father who uses

saw palmetto for prostate problems.

He says he will also use it when he hits

40.



I could go on..........



John





























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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:54:59 GMT

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TRADITIONAL?!!!  How could anyone call modern medicine TRADITIONAL? Think about

it folks, how long has it been around? 300 years? eh? really...get your terms

straight. You can't call something modern as well as traditional. Herbal

medicine IS traditional. Modern medicine is....well I'll keep my opinions to

myself.



Belinda





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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: Deb <deb@mt.jeff.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:35:34 -0800

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LEvans1044 wrote:



> TRADITIONAL?!!!  How could anyone call modern medicine TRADITIONAL? Think about

> it folks, how long has it been around? 300 years? eh? really...get your terms

> straight. You can't call something modern as well as traditional. Herbal

> medicine IS traditional. Modern medicine is....well I'll keep my opinions to

> myself.

>

> Belinda



  You said it, Belinda.  I was so confused by the term 'traditional' when I started

reading the ng.  I still have to stop and consider the source a lot of the time.



Modern medicinal practices are what most people usually use and, I suppose, to

them, herbs are something new and different.  Herbs are the traditional medicines.

Now, if we could only educate the public to use herbs in the traditional manner.

<sigh>



Deb







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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:02:47 GMT

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Deb wrote in message <36AAE965.5A635B09@mt.jeff.com>...

>

>

>LEvans1044 wrote:

>

>> TRADITIONAL?!!!  How could anyone call modern medicine TRADITIONAL? Think

about

>> it folks, how long has it been around? 300 years? eh? really...get your

terms

>> straight. You can't call something modern as well as traditional. Herbal

>> medicine IS traditional. Modern medicine is....well I'll keep my opinions

to

>> myself.

>>

>> Belinda

>

>  You said it, Belinda.  I was so confused by the term 'traditional' when I

started

>reading the ng.  I still have to stop and consider the source a lot of the

time.

>

>Modern medicinal practices are what most people usually use and, I suppose,

to

>them, herbs are something new and different.  Herbs are the traditional

medicines.

>Now, if we could only educate the public to use herbs in the traditional

manner.

><sigh>

>

>Deb



Dear Belinda and Deb,



Yes, that does seem to be a big problem.   In recent years you can even buy

herbs in the supermarket next to the vitamins!   but the problem is that

people have so little understanding of the way they have been used

traditionally, and regard them as harmless little 'veggies' or something.

Herbs are medicines and they are the traditional medicines!



Partly this is the fault of our government, who has not allowed anyone to

make any medical claims for natural remedies, and it has been very difficult

to find out what each herb's traditional uses are.    I have seen herbs sold

with no indications as to their uses, or dosages and thought to myself that

someone, somewhere is going to get very ill from this kind of misguided

over-protection which is really a sort of sabotage!



What really has me most concerned is that I have actually seen medicinal

herbs included in soft drinks, which can not be a good thing, since not

every herb that has a use can be good for everyone - sort of like taking

penicillin for no reason at all would be!



More recently books which describe the traditional uses of herbs, have been

more widely available, which has been extremely helpful.   And of course

this newsgroup, to which I give great thanks to all the posters here!!

Love you all!!!!



Evelyn









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: kevin french <kp_french@conknet.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:46:43 -0500

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Herbs Do work, differently on some people.



 The reason they are called "alternative medicine" and not excepted by

the more "main stream" medical community is If they were and widely use

the big pharmaceutcial companies would lose business to people growing

them at home.



The sugar industry is doing it to Stevia now.



Kevin







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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:52:48 -0800

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The reason all the indigenous healing methods are called "alternative" is

becasue the AMA didn't think them up.



"Modern" medicine works great for trauma. Doesn't do so well for many

chronic things or just to kepp you healthy.



That's my 2 cents.

Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 17:47:47 GMT

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I'm here to tell you herbs DO work.  I use them, they work.



Ma

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Robin

Aurora, Colorado





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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 21:48:26 GMT

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>Sat, Jan 23, 1999 01:42 EST

>evilskai@hotmail.com



<snip>





>AHC offers hope when traditional medicine 

>can't offer a safe and sure cure. A local 

>television news anchor rejected 

>chemotherapy for her breast cancer in

>favor of Gerson Therapy. Pat Davis follows 

>a rigorous 13-hour-a-day regimen of diet,

>exercise and coffee enemas (four a day) 

>developed by Dr. Max Gerson. Davis 

>mother had had breast cancer twice, 

>undergoing chemotherapy and a 

>mastectomy. Davis knew the dangers of 

>chemotherapy and the effects of breast

>surgery. She refused to accept that there 

>were no alternatives. Gerson therapy gives 

>her hope. From the point of view of 

>scientific medicine, it is a false hope.

>



I'm curious...  How is the treatment progressing?



Also, in your post, you made mention of the

placebo effect...  That can come into play in

both *modern* and *alternative* medicines.



I think the one thing that *modern* medicine

does tend to disregard is the whole mind/

spirit/body connection.  Now there are those

who might scoff and call that a bunch of

"New Agey Mystical Hooey" but there really

*is* something to it.  



And I see nothing wrong with viewing the 

individual as a *whole* and addressing their 

health concerns in that manner.  Certainly, if 

someone is living an unhealthy lifestyle, 

making changes to their diet/health regimen

is certain to have *some* positive effect. 

Even MD's agree with that.  The problem is

that most MD's are too busy treating symptoms

(for- as you stated -  "hundreds or thousands 

of patients," assembly-line fashion <my 

addition>) to truly delve into the person's 

life/health lifestyle as a whole...



And there seems to be an incredible 

disregard for the individual's state of mind, be

it psychological, spiritual, whatever.  The

*modern* medical community, being borne

of science, tends to be too pragmatic to take

this into account...



The mind has incredible capacity for healing 

and it seems as though this has been vastly

underestimated by the *modern* medical

community.



And, who can legitimately dispute the healing

of an individual who *chooses* to seek 

treatment through alternative means?



Yes, there are pharmaceuticals out there to

address specific symptoms - but can one 

assume that, _in 100% of the cases_, 

pharmaceuticals and other *modern* 

treatments were the specific cure?  No.  Nor

can you say that with herbs or other 

*alternative* treatments...



Sometimes an individual might have gotten

get well entirely on their own...  Sometimes

it might well have been the placebo effect...

And, of course, sometimes people just _don't_

get well.  But, hopefully, in most instances,

people *do* get well with whatever treatment

they choose...



There is no disputing that herbs as well as

pharmaceuticals have specific chemical

effects to the body - some good and some

bad.  The difference is that drugs have gone 

through extensive testing (and are heavily 

regulated) and herbs, in most instances, have 

not (but many have thousands of years of

anecdotal evidence to support their efficacy).

Furthermore, didn't pharmacology have it's 

roots in herbalism?



I don't mean to make generalizations here, 

but sometimes it seems as though *modern*

medicine and *alternative* therapies are

working *against* each other.  It seems that

both fields could accomplish so much more if

they would just work together.



QT***

m/v's Solitaire and Tartan

San Francisco Bay

Liveaboard advice at http://members.aol.com/imqtpi/private/qtboats.htm







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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: Eric Kasten <kasten@tiger.nscl.msu.edu>

Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:27:45 GMT

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My word, what is this some sort of ellaborate troll? 



First off this dissertation has a number of logic inconsistencies. 

It first gives some numbers about the number of deaths that occur 

in medical establishments (ie, hospitals) and then later says the

following: 



  > When scientific medicine errs, it errs in ways

  > that can be corrected. Treatments and practices that are ineffective or



This apparently second statement apparently isn't true unless 

resurection is an option.  Or possibly this means an attempt is

made not make the same mistake twice -- this would hold for either

type of medicine (if you care to make such distinctions). 



There is also an attempt to compare modern scientific medicine to the

more ``religious'' side of herbal medicine.  This tends to fault the

entire argument since you can't directly compare belief and the scientific

method.  Which isn't to say that ones health and wellbeing can be

placed entirely on either side of that fence or that either is

necessary more or less important.  They're just different although may 

complement eachother.



Second off, maybe the author should do a little more research on the

history of modern medicine and the roots of many modern pharmaceuticals.

Hmmmmm, we all know what asprin is, as I recall it was originally used

by making a tea by boiling the bark of the birch (I may have the tree

wrong here, feel free to correct me).  Denying your roots is simply

blindness.  These two branches (herbal and modern -- I'm not sure

I like either term actually) have and will continue to steal information

and techniques from each other for quite sometime.



Probably the one most useful point that is actually made in this

whole thing is simply that it is both prudent and wise to understand

the drugs you take (whether from a pharmacy or from your backyard).

Both can help, both can harm.  Read, research and apply the scientific

method to help understand the physical reasons behind why something

helps and why it hurts.  Belief is important, but much less tangible

and much more personal.



And now maybe this thread can be left to wither?



...Eric



(PS, sorry, I'm trained to dissect papers like these, and this one

annoyed me) 







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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:49:37 -0500

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Michael Malone wrote in message <36AF4A23.4BCEFA44@mpinet.net>...

>You go Eric :-)))

>

>and I believe the bark is from the willow.

>





Actually, both willow and birch contain salicins.  As does wintergreen

(methyl salicylate).  Since "salicin" is derived from "Salix", the genus

name of all the willows, I would guess you are right.



-Rich











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Subject: Herbs Are  Good

From: "Infomaui" <infomaui@mauigateway.com>

Date: 23 Jan 1999 09:00:58 GMT

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There are LOTS of charlatans and crooks in the natural 

health world; also there are LOTS  of gullible and lazy people

that instead of reading and learning want the easy way out.

It takes 2 to tango the crook and the idiot.

If you take the time to study the herbs, their historic

healthful benefits, their universal uses and start taking herbs

as preventive medicine. Herbs will  improve your quality of life.

Nothing in this world is a quick fix; even the cocaine quick fix

is a long term loss of brain cells.

Read, learn and enjoy a healthy life.

Chris







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Subject: colic

From: "Michael Flynn" <michael@bayberry.freeserve.co.uk>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:53:22 -0000

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>Another herb that might prove useful for you is catnip. It is

also a sweet little herb that has been given  to babies for

centuries.  It is often combined with fennel for colic.



Is these given to the baby to drink as an infusion? My mum has a friend who

was asking about colic and I said that I would check it out. they also want

something gentle to put in the bath which will help the baby, any ideas?

Thanks!

Jacqui









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Subject: Re: colic

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:45:18 -0600

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Is Mom breastfeeding?

I have recipes for infusions, but they are for infants 6 months or older. If you're breastfeeding, you could take the infusion yourself.

Here's some recipes---

Ginger--Give 1/4 level teaspoon of powder with 1/2 cup hot water 1 to 2 times a day.

Chamomile--Make an infusion with 1 level teaspoon to 1 cup of water. Give up to 3 cups a day.

Anise--Make an infusion with 1 level teaspoon of seeds to 1 cup of water. Give up to 2 cups a day.

Fennel--Make an infusion with 1 level teaspoon of the seeds to 1 cup of water. Up to 2 cups a day.



Remember, the dosage above is for older children--1 to 6 year olds.

For 6 to 12 month olds, use 1/3 of the dose. 



Kay





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Subject: english name for ruda macho

From: r202@aol.com (R202)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 13:56:24 GMT

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does anybody know what ruda macho is in english



thanks



rose





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Subject: Re: Building a Garlic Community

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:33:49 -0800

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What a fun site with wonderful stinky links.  I'm a garlic lover and pickle

maker and they sure go toether! Thanks for the post Roger!

(www.garliclover.com)



Ingrid









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Subject: Oil of Lime

From: "alt.rec.racing" <luzula@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:40:02 -0800

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I am looking for information on the therapeutic values of Oil of Lime.

I steam distilled some in class and was wondering if it would be appropriate

to apply it in a facial mask at the rate of "One Drop".

Any thought or information you might have about Oil of Lime will be much

appreciated.



LuZuLa









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Subject: Re: Oil of Lime

From: herblady@newsguy.comx (Rastapoodle)

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:41:09 GMT

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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:40:02 -0800, "alt.rec.racing"

<luzula@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I am looking for information on the therapeutic values of Oil of Lime.

>I steam distilled some in class and was wondering if it would be appropriate

>to apply it in a facial mask at the rate of "One Drop".

>Any thought or information you might have about Oil of Lime will be much

>appreciated.

>

>LuZuLa



Hmmm. Citrus rinds are typically expressed, not distilled. So, I would

think that any use of lime oil found in aromatherapy books *might* not

apply here, since the heat process could have destroyed some of the

therapeutic value of the oil.



x-posted to alt.aromatherapy to get some of those experts involved in

this question. 



I still think the perfumery value of the oil would be okay. Smells

yummy.



*                                                                     *

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Subject: Re: Oil of Lime

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:33:25 GMT

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<<Hmmm. Citrus rinds are typically expressed, not distilled. So, I would

think that any use of lime oil found in aromatherapy books *might* not

apply here, since the heat process could have destroyed some of the

therapeutic value of the oil.



Many citrus oils are distilled in addition to being exoressed, Lime oil on the

market are frequently distilled.





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Subject: Re: Oil of Lime

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:35:40 GMT

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Hi, I'm curious about Oil of Lime... bet it smells great.  I'd go ahead  and

try it (on yourself only!), based on info for Oil of Lemon, which is easier to

find.  I'm assuming similarities:  should be good if you have oily skin or

broken capillaries, at least mixed with a carrier oil in back massage.  Facial

skin is tender & sensitive... Why not try the recipe out on the inside of your

arm, and leave it there longer than you would on your face, wash it off, wait a

day & see if a rash develops? See if lime oil whitens stained teeth; see if it

relieves insect bites dabbed on 'neat' (alone); see if a 2% solution in pure

water stops small cuts from bleeding (razor cuts).  If so, it's a lot like

lemon oil... Do you have enough to sell me a sample?  If not, please let me

know how it turns out.  Especially if you get a big ugly rash!





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Subject: Goldenseal planting

From: history67@aol.comTRASH (History67)

Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:58:53 GMT

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I nice goldenseal rhinzone (or is it a root?) arrived today for me, Now what? 

It didn't come with any planting instructions, can anyobe help?



S.















>>>>>" It's Never too late to be what you might have been"<<<<<<

                                     Elliot

 

          " It's Never enough until your Heart Stops Beating"

                                new  order





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Subject: Re: Goldenseal planting

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:49:10 GMT

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history67@aol.comTRASH (History67) wrote:



>I nice goldenseal rhinzone (or is it a root?) arrived today for me, Now what? 

>It didn't come with any planting instructions, can anyobe help?



It needs shade, continually moist, acidy soil with a lot of

organic material (much like ferns, Columbines, and other woodland

plants).

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Goldenseal planting

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:25:33 -0700

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History67 wrote:



> I nice goldenseal rhinzone (or is it a root?) arrived today for me, Now what?

> It didn't come with any planting instructions, can anyobe help?

>



What part of the country are you from?  I assume the root is still fresh and

viable.  Also, where did you intend to plant it in the first place?  Do you have

some forest cover where you live?  Maybe if you could answer these questions, I

could offer some advice.







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Subject: Re: Goldenseal planting

From: history67@aol.comTRASH (History67)

Date: 24 Jan 1999 22:13:33 GMT

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> Also, where did you intend to plant it in the first place?  Do you have

>some forest cover where you live?  Maybe if you could answer these questions,

>I

>could offer some advice.

>



I live in new england, I was hoping to plant this in my garden.  I use raised

bed gardening for my veggies, and boarder gardens around my house foundation.  

I hope the rhinezome is fresh, It was just mailed from a herb farm this week,

it's in the fridge right now.  













>>>>>" It's Never too late to be what you might have been"<<<<<<

                                     Elliot

 

          " It's Never enough until your Heart Stops Beating"

                                new  order





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Subject: Re: Goldenseal planting

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:57:30 -0700

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History67 wrote:



>

> I live in new england, I was hoping to plant this in my garden.  I use raised

> bed gardening for my veggies, and boarder gardens around my house foundation.

> I hope the rhinezome is fresh, It was just mailed from a herb farm this week,

> it's in the fridge right now.

>

>



I believe the northern limit for goldenseal is up around Vermont.  Hopefully you

don't live above this limit.  But if so, what the hay, give it a try.



Goldenseal grows under forest canopy.  I suppose it is said that it prefers 75%

shade.  At any rate, you can plant it in your garden but, just make sure it's

under cover.  Just give it a loose, and rich in organic matter type soil.  It

likes moisture but also needs good drainage.  In other words, it doesn't like

boggy situations.



If you'd like a good book on growing medicinal plants, check out, "Herbal

Renaissance," by Steven Foster.  That will give you plenty info on growing

goldenseal.....and of course lots of other plants.









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Subject: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: osti <osti@bconnex.net>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:15:50 -0500

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Does anyone have any suggestions. My girlfriend doesn't get any

sleep.I'me looking for an herbal cure.







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Subject: Re: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: "Stephen W. Anderson" <swa@rockymountnc.com>

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:34:47 -0500

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NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:39:01 PDT



osti wrote in message <36AA6635.EAA951E3@bconnex.net>...

>Does anyone have any suggestions. My girlfriend doesn't get any

>sleep.I'me looking for an herbal cure.



Marry her. Then you can keep an eye ... err ... ear on her.



Seriously, though, teeth grinding during sleep is usually a result of

anxiety. Find out what the fears are, alleviate them, and it ought to go

away. The therapeutic alternative is a dental appliance.





Stephen W. Anderson

Rocky Mount, NC











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Subject: Re: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: "John Mueller" <JMueller@mwt.net>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:04:36 -0600

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Just make sure you're relaxed before you go to sleep.  I used to grind my

teeth as well, but very seldom do anymore.  I find that drinking some nice

relaxing tea, chamomile is my favorite, and spending some time relaxing

before I sleep results in a better night's sleep for both my wife and

myself.  Obviously, you should take some time to learn how to deal with

stress in general.  I usually take a walk in the woods, work on craft

projects, or watch something funny on television to deal with my stress.

Stress can be a real killer of teeth and the body in general.  I actually

managed to crack five of my teeth because I was grinding them so hard in my

sleep, so this is a real problem that you need to deal with in some fashion.



John Mueller



osti wrote in message <36AA6635.EAA951E3@bconnex.net>...

>Does anyone have any suggestions. My girlfriend doesn't get any

>sleep.I'me looking for an herbal cure.

>









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Subject: Re: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 00:57:24 GMT

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I grind my teeth in my sleep, too, although not very often.  First, I have my

husband wake me in the night when I do it so that I don't damage my teeth. 

Then he usually massages my jaws to relax me.  Sometimes, just learning to

relax before bedtime and telling yourself that you won't grind your teeth in

the night might help.  When I go through a phase of nighttime teeth grinding, I

find myself clenching my teeth during the day.  When I do that, I try to get

myself to relax my jaws during the day.  Then at night I don't grind them as

much.



Are you going through any major changes in your life?  I started grinding my

teeth when I started going to college as being on my own was a big adjustment

for me.  I ended up driving my poor roommate nuts :-).



As far as what you can take, sometimes a magnesium and calcium supplement can

help.  Also, I've heard that B-6 works.





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Subject: Re: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: zvan@my-dejanews.com

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:59:09 GMT

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In article <19990124195724.14198.00002561@ng-fa1.aol.com>,

  profwdesk1@aol.com (ProfWdesk1) wrote:

> I grind my teeth in my sleep, too, although not very often.  First, I have my

> husband wake me in the night when I do it so that I don't damage my teeth.



i never ground my teeth, until a dentist changed a filling and made one way

too high. it is the body's way to readjust its bite. when i moved, the new

dentist saw it at once, re-did it, and that was that. hold the herbs and

supplements until you have checked your dental history.



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Subject: Re: HELP WITH TEETH GRINDIND DURING SLEEP

From: pmaser@usa.net (PTM)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:01:19 GMT

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Two possibilities that I have read:

One is a stomach infection. Most likely ulcers as this is one of

the most common stomach problems, but could also be parasitic.

The other that I got from a dentist, is that if the bite is

incorrect the mouth is trying to find home base or a rest

position. If your jaws are sore during the day, this may be it.

In either case, buy a mouth protector at the sporting good store,

they are about $1.50, follow the directions on fitting it and wear

it at night. I believe the product is called BiteGuard, comes in

several colors and clear. This will protect your teeth while you

figure out what is the cause of your grinding. I was told this by

a hygienist, because she and the entire staff used one every

night.

Paul





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Subject: Skin rash

From: TOM CLARK   <71307.2373@CompuServe.COM>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:41:10 -0500

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have a strange rash that build up during the day. get a slight 

warmth on my legs in the am that builds up to the late afternoon 

in my upper body. by bed time it is high heat. slight rash on my 

chest due to the night heat.

any ideas on how to isolate+

never been alergic to anything until now.

thanks in advance 

tom 



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To: TOM CLARK <71307.2373@CompuServe.COM>

Subject: Re: Skin rash

From: David Lochala <jdlochala@ualr.edu>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:32:19 -0600

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Tom,

I can certainly understand your problem.  I have basically the same

problem.  Sudden onset of the same type of symptoms.  After numerous

visits to a dermatologist, the only answer i got was atopic dermatitis

(which basically is medical lingo for: "We don't know WHY you have a

rash").  It is a broad ranging blanket diagnosis for mystery skin

problems.  I can tell what has helped me.By the way, he prescribe creme

for me to use ($75 dollars for a very small tube--it also didnt' work)

Change your detergent and fabric softener. (look for one that is perfume

and dye free--Ivory for babies is a good one.)

Try to wear and sleep on all natural fibers (100% cotton, etc.)

Change your personal soap. (again seek something fragrance and dye

free--glycerin is pretty good.

Change the frequency of your showering and bathing and lower the

temperature of the water./

I bathe often in lukewarm water using a chammomile and calendula dried

herb "tea-bag" for the bath.  If you add powdered or ground oatmeal it

will be especially soothing.( it also eliminates the need for soap

altogether)

Try a fairly strong moisturizer like Curel or Eucarin.  (Sorry guys, I

tried using sweet almond oil and apricto kernel, etct...the just made it

worse).  I do understand the borage oil and evening primrose oil are

really supposed to help.

If none of this helps, I would strongly suspect a food allergy.  See an

allergist.

Hope this helps..

David



TOM CLARK wrote:



> have a strange rash that build up during the day. get a slight

> warmth on my legs in the am that builds up to the late afternoon

> in my upper body. by bed time it is high heat. slight rash on my

> chest due to the night heat.

> any ideas on how to isolate+

> never been alergic to anything until now.

> thanks in advance

> tom

>

> --

> 







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Subject: hellbore? whats it good for?*HUH say it again**

From: yurtboy12@aol.com (Yurtboy12)

Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:39:42 GMT

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DOES anyone know what it is used for ? or what is the market value of it? I

know were there is a lot of it around the mountains of my home, and was

woundering if it is marketable.  thanks steve





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Subject: Re: hellbore? whats it good for?*HUH say it again**

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:36:30 GMT

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yurtboy12@aol.com (Yurtboy12) wrote:



>DOES anyone know what it is used for ? or what is the market value of it? I

>know were there is a lot of it around the mountains of my home, and was

>woundering if it is marketable.  thanks steve



It's very good for poisoning people ... for that reason it has a

low market value.

Tsu Dho Nimh



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Subject: Re: hellbore? whats it good for?*HUH say it again**

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:09:50 GMT

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Hellebore, False or Green.  

Hi Steve, I live at the base of the cascade mountains, and have been studying

the ethnobotany of the natives of my region.  All info I've found is old &

sketchy, but my friend, BE CAREFUL with hellebore.  This is from Erna Gunther's

'Ethnobotany of Western Washington', (1945) (revised 1973):

"This plant was secured only from two tribes with direct access to mountains. 

It belongs to the Hudsonian zone and among the Quinault is collected only up in

the Spruce Orchard region.  The Quinault boil the whole plant and drink it in

very small doses for rheumatism.  THEY REGARD IT AS POISONOUS.  The Cowlitz are

also aware of its poisonous qualities and do not use it internally at all. 

Instead they tie a leaf around a patient's arm to relieve pain.

"(Literature:) Again it is most annoying that Haskins (she refers to a

researcher before her) does not give the source of his information.  It is

mentioned that the hellebore is considered potent medicine and that a bit of

the root chewed and spit on the water causes sea monsters to disappear; but at

the end of the paragraph, THE ROOT IS CALLED DRASTIC POISON.

"Gathercoal and Wirth say that the medicinal value of Veratrum viride was known

to the Indians of the eastern and central United States, and that they

introduced it to the whites.  Youngken states that the roots and rhizomes are

used as a cathartic, respiratory, vasculatory, and motor depressant, also to

slow overactive heart, reduce blood pressure; it is always used in small

dosage."

Go get those sea monsters, Steve!  But remember to spit, don't swallow.  And

don't let anyone else swallow it, you'll get sued... I admire your

resourcefulness & curiosity, though, wonder where you're writing from.  I

believe there will soon be a fine wave of region-to-region herb bartering...

See y'all!  





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Subject: SELLING HERBS?

From: yurtboy12@aol.com (Yurtboy12)

Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:43:38 GMT

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DOES ANYONE KNOW where I can sell native herbs (hellbore, graperoot,ginsing

ect.?)





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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:05:56 -0800

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>>I wouldn't worry overmuch about medicinal herbs in soft drinks (saw St J's

in

Chicken Soup the other day) as there is probably not enough to do any good

or

any harm. It's all just advertising>>



Yes, I saw SJW in potato chips the other day. Like you needed something

besides fat and carbohydrates to improve your mood.



Best one I saw was chicken soup mix with echinacea added. Costs was 6 bucks.

Made 4 servings of cup-a-soup style soup.....



Ingrid.











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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:50:07 GMT

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> 

> Best one I saw was chicken soup mix with echinacea added. Costs was 6 bucks.

> Made 4 servings of cup-a-soup style soup.....

> 

> Ingrid.



Don't knock it.  I always make  chicken soup when ever we have colds

coming on in the family.  Once I out of curiosity added some of the

Echinacea to the soup.  Boy was that good soup.  My husband and children

insisted I add it always when making Chicken Soup.



J9





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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 26 Jan 1999 09:49:49 GMT

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P & J wrote in message <36AD39A6.DD6217C1@world.com>...

>>

>> Best one I saw was chicken soup mix with echinacea added. Costs was 6

bucks.

>> Made 4 servings of cup-a-soup style soup.....

>>

>> Ingrid.

>

>Don't knock it.  I always make  chicken soup when ever we have colds

>coming on in the family.  Once I out of curiosity added some of the

>Echinacea to the soup.  Boy was that good soup.  My husband and children

>insisted I add it always when making Chicken Soup.

>

>J9



Hi J9,



So what part did you add?   Tincture?  Loose dried flowers?  just

curious....



Evelyn









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:03:51 GMT

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> Hi J9,

> 

> So what part did you add?   Tincture?  Loose dried flowers?  just

> curious....

> 

> Evelyn



I had used the dried root, chopped.  I would place it in a bag so I

could discard it after the soup was done.  I did not use much for a

little goes a long way.  The difference was not much but enough for my

children to notice that the soup tasted better.



J9





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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:51:37 -0500

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ma pickle wrote in message ...

>I'm not knocking chicken soup, it's the little bit of echinacea added with

>the price od $6.00 to make 4 servings of cup-a-soup that I object too.





I'm also rather shocked by the price increase of good echinacea angustifolia

root.  I remember when it was a few dollars a lb.  Now it's that much for an

ounce!



-Rich











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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work (yeah right)

From: "wolffe" <wolffe@onslowonline.net>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:35:06 -0500

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I find that the best way to beat those high prices, is to grow your own! You

don't even need a garden, just a sunny window and little bit of patience.

-Wolfe

Richard Ogden <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net> wrote in message

news:4u0s2.1023$DA.1103086@newshog.newsread.com...

>ma pickle wrote in message ...

>>I'm not knocking chicken soup, it's the little bit of echinacea added with

>>the price od $6.00 to make 4 servings of cup-a-soup that I object too.

>

>

>I'm also rather shocked by the price increase of good echinacea

angustifolia

>root.  I remember when it was a few dollars a lb.  Now it's that much for

an

>ounce!

>

>-Rich

>

>

>









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Subject: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: tedd@achilles.net (Ted Duross)

Date: 24 Jan 1999 19:20:46 GMT

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During the fall I prepared an echinacea tincture using a simple recipe someone 

had suggested to me. I used roots of two or three echinacea purperea 

plants covered with 40 % vodka. I let this sit for 6 weeks, giving it a bit of 

a stir each day. I then strained the mixture, filtering it through  paper 

coffee filters.

    My problem has been that as I have begun to use the tincture I have found 

it very difficult to digest. It leaves me with a burning sensation in the 

stomach and if used over a few days my stomach becomes more and more upset. 

    The amount I have been taking has been about a teaspoon; sometimes a little 

more, sometimes less. On the tongue the tincture has a tingling, numbing 

sensation.

    Somethings I have tried are removing the alcohol from the tincture, mixing 

it with a fruit juice or water, and taking it before a meal. I still have 

problems with it.

    In the past I have only used echinacea tablets. So I am not sure how 

purchased preparations would go down.

    This is actually the second tincture I prepared this fall. I had the same 

problem with the first tincture I prepared. I assumed that the roots I'd used 

for the first batch had in some way been contaminated. They had grown close to 

the edge of a farmer's corn field. The second time was from an area where no 

chemicals aside from chemical fertiliser had been used. 

    I do not have stomach problems that I am aware of. I'll have the occasional 

martini without any difficulty, so I don't think it is the concentration of 

alcohol,

    Any thoughts on all this? Is this something anyone else has encountered. Is 

it possible that my tincture is very strong and needs to be watered down. Any 

advice would be appreciated.



                                       cheers,

                                       Ted







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Subject: Re: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:29:25 -0800

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Sounds like you need to take less tincture at a time and try it in a large

glass of water.



Ingrid









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To: Ted Duross <tedd@achilles.net>

Subject: Re: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: David Lochala <jdlochala@ualr.edu>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:39:17 -0600

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Were you positve that everything (the bottles, droppers, etc.) were 100% sterile?

I also wouldn't open the tincture daiily to stir it. It simply exposes the

developing tincture to bacteria.  You can get the same effect by gently shaking the

jar or bottle and leaving it unopened for six weeks.

Hope this helps.

David



Ted Duross wrote:



> During the fall I prepared an echinacea tincture using a simple recipe someone

> had suggested to me. I used roots of two or three echinacea purperea

> plants covered with 40 % vodka. I let this sit for 6 weeks, giving it a bit of

> a stir each day. I then strained the mixture, filtering it through  paper

> coffee filters.

>     My problem has been that as I have begun to use the tincture I have found

> it very difficult to digest. It leaves me with a burning sensation in the

> stomach and if used over a few days my stomach becomes more and more upset.

>     The amount I have been taking has been about a teaspoon; sometimes a little

> more, sometimes less. On the tongue the tincture has a tingling, numbing

> sensation.

>     Somethings I have tried are removing the alcohol from the tincture, mixing

> it with a fruit juice or water, and taking it before a meal. I still have

> problems with it.

>     In the past I have only used echinacea tablets. So I am not sure how

> purchased preparations would go down.

>     This is actually the second tincture I prepared this fall. I had the same

> problem with the first tincture I prepared. I assumed that the roots I'd used

> for the first batch had in some way been contaminated. They had grown close to

> the edge of a farmer's corn field. The second time was from an area where no

> chemicals aside from chemical fertiliser had been used.

>     I do not have stomach problems that I am aware of. I'll have the occasional

> martini without any difficulty, so I don't think it is the concentration of

> alcohol,

>     Any thoughts on all this? Is this something anyone else has encountered. Is

> it possible that my tincture is very strong and needs to be watered down. Any

> advice would be appreciated.

>

>                                        cheers,

>                                        Ted







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Subject: Re: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:15:51 -0700

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>

>     My problem has been that as I have begun to use the tincture I have found

> it very difficult to digest. It leaves me with a burning sensation in the

> stomach and if used over a few days my stomach becomes more and more upset.

>     The amount I have been taking has been about a teaspoon; sometimes a little

> more, sometimes less. On the tongue the tincture has a tingling, numbing

> sensation.

>



The tincture should give you a tingling sensation on your tongue.  That's what an

extract of echinacea will naturally do.   If you take too much echinacea , it could

effect your digestion.  What are you taking it for?  And exactly how much?  When

you said a teaspoon at a time, do you mean for the whole day or several times a

day?













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Subject: Re: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: tedd@achilles.net (Ted Duross)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 01:39:29 GMT

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In article <36ACC2E7.88D8988D@netsavant.com>, turpin@netsavant.com says...

>

>



>The tincture should give you a tingling sensation on your tongue.  That's what 

an extract of echinacea will naturally do.   If you take too much echinacea , 

it could effect your digestion.  What are you taking it for? 

   

     for a cold.



 >And exactly how much?  When you said a teaspoon at a time, do you mean for  

>the  whole day or several times a day?

  For my original batch it was a teaspoon, three times a day.

  For the second batch it was a teaspoon or half a teaspoon once a day.



                                           Ted 









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Subject: Re: Echinacea Tincture Problem

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:10:28 -0800

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Try taking it by the dropper dose in water, smaller doses more often.









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Subject: Red Palms

From: "Patsy Kripps" <PATSYK@prodigy.net>

Date: 24 Jan 1999 22:58:11 GMT

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Does anyone know what would cause the palms of the hands to be bright red???





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Subject: Re: Red Palms

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 25 Jan 1999 02:18:21 GMT

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Patsy Kripps wrote in message <01be47ee$7ab93820$061a9cd1@default>...

>Does anyone know what would cause the palms of the hands to be bright

red???



High Blood pressure, circulatory disturbances.....













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Subject: Re: Red Palms

From: "sokol" <sokol@prolynx.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:52:47 -0500

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May possibly be an allergy to a soap, lotion, dish detergent or other

caustic agent that your hands have come in contact with.

Patsy Kripps wrote in message <01be47ee$7ab93820$061a9cd1@default>...

>Does anyone know what would cause the palms of the hands to be bright

red???









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Subject: Re: Red Palms

From: m8636@abc.se (Staffan Nielsen)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:45:26 GMT

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sokol (sokol@prolynx.com) wrote:

> May possibly be an allergy to a soap, lotion, dish detergent or other

> caustic agent that your hands have come in contact with.

> Patsy Kripps wrote in message <01be47ee$7ab93820$061a9cd1@default>...

> >Does anyone know what would cause the palms of the hands to be bright

> red???



Also, the palms can be coloured red with the dye called henna. It is used

for this purpose in the Middle east.



S.





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Subject: Re: Red Palms

From: "LZ" <szozu@msn.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:18:18 EST

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Didn't see the original post, however, red palms can be a symptom of liver

disease such as in Hepatitis C, which BTW, can go undiagnosed for decades if

LFT's are within normal ranges.



sokol wrote in message <36ad3f32.0@nntp.prolynx.com>...

>May possibly be an allergy to a soap, lotion, dish detergent or other

>caustic agent that your hands have come in contact with.

>Patsy Kripps wrote in message <01be47ee$7ab93820$061a9cd1@default>...

>>Does anyone know what would cause the palms of the hands to be bright

>red???

>

>









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Subject: Menopause.. hot flashes.. sweats..weight gain..

From: "HappyHiker" <kkash@tellico.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:07:07 GMT

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Anyone have any suggestions?



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Subject: Re: Menopause.. hot flashes.. sweats..weight gain..

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:31:37 -0800

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Black cohost, Motherwort.









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Subject: Re: Menopause.. hot flashes.. sweats..weight gain..

From: cassandra.wong@gte.net

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:22:21 GMT

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In article <wSPq2.4902$202.2472947@news1.teleport.com>,

  "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com> wrote:

> Black cohost, Motherwort.

>

>    When tested, all of this comes out like a placebo. Save your money and let

menopause just pass on through, Stress reduction still is the key.



   BTW: it is black cohosh which is limited in use to 6 month only in Germany.

All of these things also have side effects and are really way to expensive to

use as recommened when they have been shown to do so little. Time will take

care of menopause, and stress reduction will take care of the rest.



cass



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Subject: Re: Menopause.. hot flashes.. sweats..weight gain..

From: levans1044@aol.com (LEvans1044)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 01:42:45 GMT

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>Anyone have any suggestions?

>

>--

>Happy Trails..to you



Read Susun Weed's Menopausal Years and get yourself some tincture of

Motherwort.



Belinda



Oh and learn to live with the weight gain, it is good for you.









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Subject: YOHIMBE?

From: "ihutson" <ihutson@netcom.ca>

Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:35:01 -0500

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Could someone explain to me what yohimbe is, what is does, and what it can

be used for?



Thanks

ihutson@netcom.ca









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Subject: YOHIMBE?

From: "ihutson" <ihutson@netcom.ca>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:13:32 -0500

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I am looking for someone who can tell me if yohimbe increases blood

circulation.

Thanks,

ihutson@netcom.ca









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Subject: Re: YOHIMBE?

From: bob@bob.com (Bob)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 18:23:12 GMT

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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:13:32 -0500, "ihutson" <ihutson@netcom.ca> wrote:



>I am looking for someone who can tell me if yohimbe increases blood

>circulation.

I have seen reports that say Yohimbe raises Blood pressure, and other reports

saying it lowers it. In my case, I know it lowers my BP. I have one of those

home BP machines which may not be accurate in the absolute sense, but relative

measurements are useful.



It may do either in your case. It is a vasodilator, as are Giseng and Ginkgo.

If you are looking to increase blood flow, which will result from

vasodilation, either of these two are better for you than the Yohimbe.



Personally I can't tolerate both Ginkgo and Ginseng on the same day, but they

are packaged together by some retailers.



Hope this helps.

---



bob@bob.com is not my real email address





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Subject: Re: YOHIMBE?

From: jreed1957@aol.com (JReed1957)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 18:18:23 GMT

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I'm not real sure of all it's uses but I know it does enhance male sexual

performance.





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Subject: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 04:08:40 GMT

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OK, I'm still wrestling with these damn things.  I pulled a live bug off my

daughter tonight, after treating her head with this stuff called Lavoggio, an

herbal head lice solution.  I'd added quite a bit of the Tea Tree Oil to the

stuff, but still I found a live bug (NO others, though, we may be getting

there,

it was the one and only bug I found).  But so I got this live bug off her, and

I put it in a little container, and put a drop of straight Tea Tree Oil on it,

and

it crawled around for awhile, and then died.  I'm just wondering if there's

any danger in slathering this stuff on her head straight, leaving it on for

maybe

10 or 15 minutes?  I'll wait a few days, then do it again.  Think this is OK?

Reading about it it seems it's a safe thing, and people do put it on wounds

and burns, straight.



Thanks, all!



Robin

--------------------------------------

Robin

Aurora, Colorado





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Subject: Re: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:23:28 -0600

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Robin, look on the bottle of tea tree oil. Is there a certain percent of it

mixed in with other oils? Most are. My pharmacist sold us pure 100% tea tree

oil and told us to mix it with shampoo and leave on for 10 minutes. You

might want to apply the tea tree oil/shampoo mixture to the dry hair until

saturated and then add just enough water to lather. Leave on for the 10

minutes and rinse off.



Also, you have to pick off all the nits. If any are left and might be living

eggs, you will just have to start over. Hope this helps!



Good luck, Deb





MaVinci2 wrote in message <19990124230840.09412.00002729@ng-fb1.aol.com>...

>OK, I'm still wrestling with these damn things.  I pulled a live bug off my

>daughter tonight, after treating her head with this stuff called Lavoggio,

an

>herbal head lice solution.  I'd added quite a bit of the Tea Tree Oil to

the

>stuff, but still I found a live bug (NO others, though, we may be getting

>there,

>it was the one and only bug I found).  But so I got this live bug off her,

and

>I put it in a little container, and put a drop of straight Tea Tree Oil on

it,

>and

>it crawled around for awhile, and then died.  I'm just wondering if there's

>any danger in slathering this stuff on her head straight, leaving it on for

>maybe

>10 or 15 minutes?  I'll wait a few days, then do it again.  Think this is

OK?

>Reading about it it seems it's a safe thing, and people do put it on wounds

>and burns, straight.

>

>Thanks, all!

>

>Robin

>--------------------------------------

>Robin

>Aurora, Colorado











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Subject: Re: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:15:58 GMT

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>Robin, look on the bottle of tea tree oil. Is there a certain percent of it

>mixed in with other oils? Most are. My pharmacist sold us pure 100% tea tree

>oil and told us to mix it with shampoo and leave on for 10 minutes. You

>might want to apply the tea tree oil/shampoo mixture to the dry hair until



This is exactly what I did, adding the 100% tea tree oil to the herbal lice

shampoo, left it on 10 minutes, rinsed, picked/combed out all the nits I could

see.  The bug was still alive until I put the tea tree oil on it straight.  I

still need to know if it can be used straight all over her hair...anyone??



THANKS!



Robin

--------------------------------------

Robin

Aurora, Colorado





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Subject: Re: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:18:58 GMT

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On 25 Jan 1999 16:15:58 GMT, mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>This is exactly what I did, adding the 100% tea tree oil to the herbal lice

>shampoo, left it on 10 minutes, rinsed, picked/combed out all the nits I could

>see.  The bug was still alive until I put the tea tree oil on it straight.  I

>still need to know if it can be used straight all over her hair...anyone??



I would not put 100 % tea tree oil neat all over anybody's scalp.



THAT much may be -too- much, and once you've put it on there's no way you'll get

it off again. It'll soak in faster than you can believe.



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: Jess <Jess@summer-equinox.demon.co.uk>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:46:23 +0000

--------

During the summer the local primary school had a real problem with head

lice.  The cure I found was to use 1 cup of olive oil(or any other light

base oil) mixed with 10 drops tea tree oil(this treats a few heads).

leave on the head for at least half an hour then comb with a fine tooth

comb(this is a rather long process, as the comb always needs

cleaned)this will loosen any lice on the head.  Wash hair a few times to

remove the oil the comb again.  Repeat the treatment every four days,for

two weeks,this will catch any eggs that were missed.  After two weeks

the head will be lice free.  If you then continue to use the oil and tea

tree preperation once a week it should keep the head lice free.  If you

find more lice at any time use the two week process again.  I have four

children of my own and this is the system I have used for some time now,

and it continues to be sucessful.  My children range from age 5 to 10

and my two elder girls think this once a week 'beauty hair treatment' is

wonderful as they now both have very long soft blond hair.  Both of them

also have eczema of the scalp and since I have started using this system

they have had very little problems(an added bonus)



hope this helps

-- 

Jess





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Subject: Re: Tea Tree Oil for head lice

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:13:31 -0800

--------

MaVinci2 wrote:



> OK, I'm still wrestling with these damn things.  I pulled a live bug off my

> daughter tonight, after treating her head with this stuff called Lavoggio, an

> herbal head lice solution.  I'd added quite a bit of the Tea Tree Oil to the

> stuff, but still I found a live bug (NO others, though, we may be getting

> there,

> it was the one and only bug I found).  But so I got this live bug off her, and

> I put it in a little container, and put a drop of straight Tea Tree Oil on it,

> and

> it crawled around for awhile, and then died.  I'm just wondering if there's

> any danger in slathering this stuff on her head straight, leaving it on for

> maybe

> 10 or 15 minutes?  I'll wait a few days, then do it again.  Think this is OK?

> Reading about it it seems it's a safe thing, and people do put it on wounds

> and burns, straight.

>

> Thanks, all!

>

> Robin

> --------------------------------------

> Robin

> Aurora, Colorado



Tea Tree oil will work, as will an infusion of 1/2 Rue, and 1/2 Parsley leaves.

Apply the infusion after washing the hair nightly and leave on to dry naturally

(do not blow dry).  I used this on my children when they were school age, and it

ended chemical shampoo sessions that never worked anyway.

Kathleen



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Subject: Noni Information

From: noni-mail@usa.net

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:33:14 -0800

--------

There has been a lot of hype about Tahitian Noni, with articles in USA

Today, plus special presentations on the Rosie O'Donnell Show.  If you

would like information on Noni (what it is, research, or obtain some),

please go to



http://www.home.cio.net/timo/noni/ or emal noni-mail@usa.net









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Subject: Re: Noni Information

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:19:03 GMT

--------

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:33:14 -0800, noni(snip).net wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>There has been a lot of hype about Tahitian Noni, with articles in USA

>Today, plus special presentations on the Rosie O'Donnell Show.  If you

>would like information on Noni (what it is, research, or obtain some),

>please go to

>http://www.(snip)/noni/ or emal noni(snip).net



Or read the article about nino juice, which cures dandruff, death and taxes:

http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/neat-stuff/sbganoni.html - thanks, Alan, for

those laughs.



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Subject: Possible a silly Question...

From: Mark and Julie Moore <jtaylo@dave-world.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:17:46 +0000

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i have been searching everywhere looking the way to make essence oils. i

just now stumbled on this paragraph:



Oil extracts are made from fresh herbs that contain volatile oils used

for healing. Fresh

herbs are necessary for the extraction of the oils. The fresh herbs are

crushed with a

mortar and pestle. Olive or sesame oil is then added, at the ratio of

one pint of oil for

every two ounces of herbs. The mixture is allowed to stand in a warm

place, out of

direct light, for three days. The oils are stored in dark, glass

containers. After the three

days, add one capsule of Vitamin E to each bottle for preserving the

extracted oils.

This is another process that is best done on the new moon.





This sounds almost too simple. my question is this : Is this the "right"

way to make oils??







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Subject: Re: Possible a silly Question...

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:28:06 GMT

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<A HREF="http://essentialoil.com/distiller.html">THE ESSENTIAL OIL HOME

DISTILLER</A><<

i have been searching everywhere looking the way to make essence oils.>>











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Subject: Re: Possible a silly Question...

From: curiosa90@aol.com (Curiosa90)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 03:05:32 GMT

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Infused oils, yes, but not essential oils.





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Subject: Re: Possible a silly Question...

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 04:39:59 GMT

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Hi there.  Yes way to simple.  Some machines for extracting essential oil cost

in the many thousands of dollars and are usually way beyond the means of

regular folks like us.  The recipe you indicate is just fine for extracting an

oil from an herb, but as your recipe indicates, the herbal oils will be mixed

with your extract oils rendering them not 'pure'.  Check a local book store and

you may be pleasantly surprise at the many books avalable to do this kind of

thing.  If no luck EM me and I will get you the names of some good books that

are in print now to answer and direct you to all the issues you are exploring. 

Good Luck and have lots of fun.





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Subject: Colorado, anyone?

From: "Bob Sokol" <sokol@prolynx.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:20:58 -0500

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I am new to the Newsgroup. I would very much like to know it there are any

Colorado subscribers in the group. I just moved back here to the Front Range

after living in Central Florida for almost four years. Climates, soil and

air are drastically different. I need help with things such as : clay soil,

dry climate, varying temperatures, directional exposure and unpredictable

snowfall with interval spring-like temperatures. Please help. Iknow planting

herbs here will be a bit different from the tropical, warm climate I first

began planting  in. (excuse the preposition at the end of the sentence;it

couldn,t be helped...).



I would welcome your assistance.



Willows









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Subject: Re: Colorado, anyone?

From: "Ven" <vmleppek@terapath.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:27:21 -0700

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Hi Bob, I'm a Denver native and suggest you contact the Colorado University

Extension office in Fort Collins with your questions, they have a big

agricultural department and will send you piles of regional gardening info.

I grow vegetables and only a handful of herbs. Most soil here is very clay

and needs LOTS of compost, peat and sand. I plant seeds mid-April and

bedding plants May Day. Late summer is very hot and too dry for delicate

herbs. If herbs are your focus, you might be better off with a small green

house arrangement..



(Feel free to e-mail me if you have any specific ?'s)

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Subject: Re: Colorado, anyone?

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 04:53:31 GMT

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Hi there,  first off don't sweat the details of having clay soil, etc.  An

issue often overstated by herb growers is the necessity to have perfect soils. 

To some degree the quality of your soil CAN be an issue, but you know what? 

Most herbs evolved over millions of years to their present wonderful being

WITHOUT fertilizers, irrigation systems, or manufactured soils.  Though you

appear to be a somewhat experienced herb grower,  it is a common thing for

would be herb 'growers' to literally 'worry' their botanical charges to death. 

I reccomend using herbs indigenous to your area (talk to your local university

extension), or developing the necessary modifications to accomodate 'marginal'

plantings in a way (or ways) that mitigate the problems you're up against for

the area you are in.  Cold frames, etc.  may perhaps be your best friend of all

the issues you encounter.  Good Luck to you.





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To: rreiser@REMOVE*THIS.madisontelco.com

Subject: Re: Suggestions for emphysema

From: David Lochala <jdlochala@ualr.edu>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:36:27 -0600

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Stop smoking immediately.  You have done irreversable damage to your

lungs.  There is no cure for emphysema--traditional or alternative

medicine.  The reason I know is because I have watched three family

members die (slowly and very painfully) from emphysema.  My grandfather

is now dying of it.  It's awful to watch a man who was so active,

struggle for breath after walking across the living room (he is now on

full-time oxygen).

Really, stop smoking now.

David



Roger G. Reiser wrote:



> Any suggestions for emphysema relieve? Before I go to the MD for

> chemical treatment, I thought I would run it by this group to see if

> there is a natural way first.







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Rosacea

From: "Patty Blum" <PLBlum@prodigy.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:55:02 -0600

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Anyone know of anything that works for this?  Tea Tree Oil perhaps?









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Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: "slade or kay henson" <nohow-noway@nowhere.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:41:45 -0600

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Skin heals from the inside out. Diet and nutrition are important for healthy skin.

I suggest a fasting Detoxification Program. 

Start with Detoxifying, then keep your diet sugar-free. Reduce fats and concentrated proteins--like red meats. Add Omega-3 rich flax oil in your salad dressings. Take Evening Primrose Oil caps as a source of Essential Fatty Acids. Add B complex vitamins--100mg daily. Take antioxidants like beta-carotene 100,000IU daily, vitamin E 400IU with selenium 200mcg daily.

Try applying grapefruit seed extract and take the capsules internally as an effective anti-biotic treatment for the skin.

Drink Pau d' arco tea 3 to 4 cups daily as an anti-infective or take Pau d' arco/echinacea extract to flush fats from the blood stream.





-- Kay



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: nworbekim@my-dejanews.com

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:56:10 GMT

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In article <78i78r$aqtu$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,

  "Patty Blum" <PLBlum@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Anyone know of anything that works for this?  Tea Tree Oil perhaps?

>

>



My wife is afflicted with this and she tried EVERYTHING before finally

heading to the doctor.	He put her on a minimal dose of antibiotic for a long

time while treating it topically with metrogel....



Hers is under control now, she feels much better and looks better too. Don't

wait too long though, it will cause scars, she has a few....



There is a National association that I for get the name of right now, but I

guess you could find it on the web with a search engine...



good luck!



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Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 02:01:08 GMT

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>Anyone know of anything that works for this?  Tea Tree Oil perhaps?



My little sister has this, as well as I to a much lesser degree.



One of the more important things you can do is avoid cosmetics, and heat or

cold.  (As well as such things as alcohol or smoking.)  We are not aware of any

tea that would help.





David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: "glock" <nat@tcbi.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:40:21 -0600

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this rosacea thing has had me stumped...I've been dealing with this for

quite a few years now...I've tried the blood cleansing, and I take many

supplements and have yet to have any good results.  Last month I decided to

go to the dermatologist who agreed with my diagnosis and gave me the choice

of a cream and last resort a med to lower blood pressure (my bp is "normal"

now)...i chose the cream and its o.k....I am really curious to know if this

is related to allergies?  I asked the doc to test me and she ASSURED me that

it is NOT an allergy thing...Some people get this and some don't....I find

this quite hard to believe...My symptoms come when I'm excited, nervous,

drink certain alcoholic beverages (wine) and acidic beverages,.... I am not

depressed and have a pretty great life..... if any of you have any ideas

please inform me

AloeDrinks wrote in message

<19990126210108.05420.00003679@ng-fu1.aol.com>...

>>Anyone know of anything that works for this?  Tea Tree Oil perhaps?

>

>My little sister has this, as well as I to a much lesser degree.

>

>One of the more important things you can do is avoid cosmetics, and heat or

>cold.  (As well as such things as alcohol or smoking.)  We are not aware of

any

>tea that would help.

>

>

>David H. Honaker

>Aloe Vera Products

>http://www.aloe-products.com









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Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: "Maryse L. Dufresne" <maryse.lap_dufr@span.ch>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:05:59 +0100

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Hello!  Have you try homeopathie?  A CONSULTATION  should be appropriate

but at fist suggestion "calcarea fluorica" : it should work on the vascular

fiber; or "hamamelis" for lymph cleansing and/or "pulsatilla" for some kind

of a drain...    I would not know in which dilution but it is worth looking

up. No?

Good luck.  MLD



glock a crit dans le message <_Hwr2.138$vg6.8855@homer.alpha.net>...

>this rosacea thing has had me stumped...  [etc. etc.]>









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Rosacea

From: neil.haywood@mail.which.net

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:43:08 +0000

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I agree that metrogel works. I know that i shouldnt drink or smoke but i think that

touching my face with my hands is a greater cause of the problem and this is a very

difficult thing to avoid. Its like biting your nails, you dont even realise that

you are doing it. Good luck.

NH



AloeDrinks wrote:



> >Anyone know of anything that works for this?  Tea Tree Oil perhaps?

>

> My little sister has this, as well as I to a much lesser degree.

>

> One of the more important things you can do is avoid cosmetics, and heat or

> cold.  (As well as such things as alcohol or smoking.)  We are not aware of any

> tea that would help.

>

> David H. Honaker

> Aloe Vera Products

> http://www.aloe-products.com











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Subject: homeopathic newsgroups?

From: "brenda" <lyons@wavecomputers.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:13:45 -0600

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does anyone know of a homeopathic newsgroup or any good sites? Thanks in

advance. B









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Subject: Looking for heliotrope essential oil

From: "Fingle" <pemivaly@cyberportal.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:48:37 -0500

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I'm looking for heliotrope oil, and boy, it's hard to find! Any one know of

any sources?



Fingle











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Subject: Smokeable Herbs

From: chrish@gtwn.net (Christian)

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:58:13 GMT

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I am aware that to the best of my knowledge.  Smoking white sage helps

clear out lungs of debris and opens breating ways.  But what other

herbs have benificial uses from being smoked???





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Subject: Re: Smokeable Herbs

From: "Scott Lee" <sjlee_NOSPAM@wwnet.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:36:37 -0500

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Mullein Leaf (verbascum Thapsus) is another.



Scott Lee



Christian wrote in message <36afe8dd.61829896@news.gtwn.net>...

>I am aware that to the best of my knowledge.  Smoking white sage helps

>clear out lungs of debris and opens breating ways.  But what other

>herbs have benificial uses from being smoked???









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Subject: Re: Smokeable Herbs

From: imqtpi@aol.com (IMQTPI)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 03:27:44 GMT

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Coltsfoot - quite harsh, but excellent for 

clearing out the "Creeping Cruds" when

you've got bronchitis.



QT***

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San Francisco Bay

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Subject: Re: Smokeable Herbs

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 04:33:40 GMT

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Hi Christian,  aother herb you could use as a medicinal 'smoke' is Lobelia

inflata.  Used by native americans, it aids in the safe and effective expansion

of the alveoli in the lungs thereby promoting the expectoration of deleterious

substances commonly found in the lungs of modern peoples.  As in all things

smoked, moderate, not chronic use, helps the herb do its thing best.  You've

probably noticed that 'peace pipes' (not really what they were used for), are

quite long, and for good reason;  one of the problems with 'modern' smoking is

the close proximity of the burning end to the smokers lips and therefore lungs.

 A long pipe 'cools' the smoke helping to eliminate the heat of the smoke which

is partially to blame for many forms of cancer, etc. If possible, find a real

'peace' pipe made of soapstone or some other innocuous substance (but

definately nothing made of antlers,etc.) and smoke your herbal mixture with a

gradually increasing deep breathing method.  DO NOT hold your breath as

marijuana smokers do.  Allow the smoke of the herb to do it's thing gradually,

and on it's terms.  As with all herbs, time is key in the effective use and the

benefits derived therefrom.  Good Luck.





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Subject: Re: Smokeable Herbs

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:18:15 -0800

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Christian wrote:



> I am aware that to the best of my knowledge.  Smoking white sage helps

> clear out lungs of debris and opens breating ways.  But what other

> herbs have benificial uses from being smoked???



No herbs should be smoked on a regular basis, but used for medicinal

purposes only.  Native Americans used Mullein for bronchitis, asthma, and

other chest ailments.

Kathleen





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Subject: children Zonetherapy and Acupuncture

From: jcjepsen@post9.tele.dk

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:12:22 GMT

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I am making a project about children zonetherapy and acupuncture, especially

about treatment of ear and stomach problems. If you have any experience in

this subject please contact Me.



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Subject: Re: children Zonetherapy and Acupuncture

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:28:20 GMT

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Hi, from personal experience, and with no working knowledge of anatomical

terms, I will try to describe to you the spot I press, with a fingertip or

pencil eraser or whatever, to relieve pressure in the ear AND DRAIN TRAPPED

FLUID.  I have felt it drain in response after less than 2 minutes of continual

pressure, and meanwhile the sensation of relief was immediate.  My 8-year-old

son with chronic ear problems also appreciates it, although it is reactive

rather than  preventative for us.  If your left ear is "squeezing", put your

right hand on your left shoulder.  Let your middle fingertip drop to halfway

between the highpoint of your shoulderblade and the base of your neck, just

under the ridge, and zone in according to the feel of it.  Relax your head back

now and your neck will probably crack.  Keep pressing, raise your head slowly,

and your ear is draining.  I see other people do it without thinking of it all

the time, to relieve pressure in the neck and shoulder... just trace the valley

of the shoulderblade with some pointed pressure and there is a heat which

moves, the pressure in the ear shifts, and there is temporary relief.  The

child will relax (stay there) and soon swallow.   I suppose this is acupressure

or massage... I don't know what Zonetherapy is.  

Is there a connection between ear and stomach problems?  My 8-year-old is also

the pickiest eater of my 3 children, and lately he's been complaining of

heartburn.  I hope you report back about your project here, post it!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: water extraction without lopermide

From: "Oxysmart" <oxysmart@clara.co.uk>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:22:49 GMT

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Following bowel cancer and colostomy I need to extract water from my bowel

as significant part of large intestine missing. I take lopermide, but I have

been looking for herbal solution. I need an answer that does'nt dehydrate

me. Visits to herbal practitioner have suggested there might be chinese herb

that does job, any ideas?



Dave Oxysmart









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: flyes REPELENT

From: "ALBERTO SANHEZ" <ASANCHZB@worldnet.att.net>

Date: 25 Jan 1999 23:49:48 GMT

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Hi,

somebody can gave me tips and tricks to flies and other kitchen bugs. I

heard that some plants can help.

Thank you

asanchezb@worldnet.att.net









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: flyes REPELENT

From: Diana_337@hotmail.com (Diana)

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:36:51 GMT

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In article <78ivus$alg@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "ALBERTO SANHEZ" <ASANCHZB@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Hi,

>somebody can gave me tips and tricks to flies and other kitchen bugs. I

>heard that some plants can help.

>Thank you

>asanchezb@worldnet.att.net

>

>

We don't seem to have a problem now, but years ago, we used to hang a branch 

from a tomato plant from the overhead beam near the downstairs door that went 

out to the garden.  Seemed to work.  Diana





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Subject: Re: Aromatherapy for your car

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:39:53 GMT

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Personally, nothing beats those little, foul scented, green pine trees you hang

on your rear view mirror! If you don't believe me, watch the movie, "Repo Man"!

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Help

From: Metallah <metallah@yahoo.com>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:04:39 -0700

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does anyone know where I could find some rose hip extract?



Thanks





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Subject: Re: Problem With Headlice?My Idea is Cheaper and Safe

From: lyra@interoz.com (Brenda Smeby)

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:37:41 GMT

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On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:44:05 -0700, Sandra Matthews

<oneofus@inficad.com> wrote:



>We had a problem with it. The first time, and I have had kids in school

>for 9 yrs now.  After failure to get rid of it with the Lice treatment

>stuff, and when her doctor told me that it was too toxic, and I

>shouldn't use it anymore ( she already had 4 treatments) I found another

>"cure"  of course I didn't think it would work, but I was willing to

>try.

>In the grocery store, you can buy Pure Olive Oil and you put enough on

>the childs head to saturate it thoroughly.  (Yes its a mess, but is safe

>and works) Leave it on the head for 8 hours, then wash it out. Comes out

>easily with dishwashing liquid.  Then when it drys, you look for the

>"eggs" ( don't use the combs, just your fingers, an a good light will

>work) Do the Oil every other day for at least 2 weeks, and then every 3

>days for the rest of the month.

>

I ran into the same problem last year, and my children were under 3yo!



I took somone's advice and tried Tea Trea Oil.  I found a shampoo at

the health store made of Tea Trea Oil, Spearment (I think) and

Eucaliptis (Can't spell it).  Anyway, the whole household used this

shampoo daily (it's healthy for the scalp as well), and haven't had a

problem since.  The shampoo cost like $6.00, but it was well worth it.







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Subject: tapeworm in cats

From: "jojo351" <habs@idsi.net>

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:37:08 -0500

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My brother has 4 cats. They all at one time had tapeworm, and he was given

medication from the vet to treat the cats. They were fine, but two weeks

later, 2 of the cats have tapeworm again. They were both treated again and

he went through it again. The other cats are fine, but the other 2 just

can't seem to shake them. This is really getting expensive and somewhat

annoying for my brother. The cats are all healthy, except that 2 of them

have this problem. Does anyone know of some other treatment?



Thanks









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 26 Jan 1999 09:54:54 GMT

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jojo351 wrote in message <78jgrr$i7q$1@remarQ.com>...

>My brother has 4 cats. They all at one time had tapeworm, and he was given

>medication from the vet to treat the cats. They were fine, but two weeks

>later, 2 of the cats have tapeworm again. They were both treated again and

>he went through it again. The other cats are fine, but the other 2 just

>can't seem to shake them. This is really getting expensive and somewhat

>annoying for my brother. The cats are all healthy, except that 2 of them

>have this problem. Does anyone know of some other treatment?

>

>Thanks

>





The biggest problem with the tapeworms seems to be the fleas.   When the cat

ingests a flea, it usually is full of tapeworm eggs, and hence they reinfect

themselves when they lick their fur.   Plus it is true, the tapeworms are

really hard to get rid of.   I found that to dose them with the medication

once a month for a couple of months in a row does a pretty good job.   So

ask the vet for enough meds to do them all three times or so to really get a

handle on it.   Do everybody at once, and be sure and clean the litter box a

day or two after they have been dosed up.



I also notice that the tapeworms seem to be more evident in the winter, like

around now.   The cats must be ingesting some herb outside that keeps the

worms from heavily infesting them the rest of the year.   We never seem to

have a problem until this time of year it seems.



Evelyn, (who has two cats :-)









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:10:38 -0800

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The Puddies wrote:

The biggest problem with the tapeworms seems to be the fleas.   When the cat



> ingests a flea, it usually is full of tapeworm eggs, and hence they reinfect

> themselves when they lick their fur.   Plus it is true, the tapeworms are

> really hard to get rid of.   I found that to dose them with the medication

> once a month for a couple of months in a row does a pretty good job.



Also, I believe that using Advantage or Frontline to get rid of the fleas helps

keep re-infection from occurring.  Makes life with cats a lot more pleasant for

both the cats and their house mates.



Gordon Held







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Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:30:34 GMT

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"jojo351" <habs@idsi.net> wrote:



>My brother has 4 cats. They all at one time had tapeworm, and he was given

>medication from the vet to treat the cats. They were fine, but two weeks

>later, 2 of the cats have tapeworm again. 

  They probably got re-infected.  The eggs get on the cat's feet

when they dig in contaminated soil or uncleaned litterboxes.



  He'll have to keep the litter boxes SPOTLESS and make sutre

they aren't usinbg the outdoors.  (It is mostly a problem in

coolish damp weather ... the eggs can't survive freezing or

blitsering heat).





>Does anyone know of some other treatment?

  Ground green pumpkinseed ... about a tablespoonful per cat,

mixed into their food once a week will kill and prevent

reinfestation from getting severe. 

Tsu Dho Nimh



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: pmaser@usa.net (PTM)

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:50:12 GMT

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I know male fern is the tried and true remedy for tapeworm in

humans. Has this ever been tested on cats?

Thanks





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Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: quandryron@aol.com (quandryron)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:59:31 GMT

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We had the same problem.  My husband started giving them garlic tablets.  You

can buy them over the counter in the pet department in about any store.  The

worm problem did cease.  Hope it works for you.





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Subject: Re: tapeworm in cats

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:20:43 -0800

--------

jojo351 wrote:



> My brother has 4 cats. They all at one time had tapeworm, and he was given

> medication from the vet to treat the cats. They were fine, but two weeks

> later, 2 of the cats have tapeworm again. They were both treated again and

> he went through it again. The other cats are fine, but the other 2 just

> can't seem to shake them. This is really getting expensive and somewhat

> annoying for my brother. The cats are all healthy, except that 2 of them

> have this problem. Does anyone know of some other treatment?

>

> Thanks



Pumpkin seed, ground into powder in the blender, then added to peanut butter

works well for all the animals I've used this remedy for throughout the

years.  Everything from cats to horses like peanut butter so they take it

rather well.

Kathleen

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Subject: Re: Tuberosa, Jasmine, Pelargonium

From: rsyes@aol.com (RSYES)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 05:15:39 GMT

--------

>I'm looking for the following essential oils :

>>

>>Polianthes tuberosa

>>Jasminum sambac ou J. officinalis ou J. grandiflorum



As well as The Essential Oil Company

http://essentialoil.com

Quality since 1977





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Subject: Garlic oil or garlic tablets?

From: "jenkins" <jenkins@istar.ca>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:19:16 GMT

--------

I have some garlic oil capsules which are 3mg each and according to the

label are equivalent to 1500mg fresh garlic. As well I have some tablets

which are odourless and equivalent to 1250mg fresh garlic. My question is

this, which form of garlic is better to take because the oil is dirt cheap

and has no additives but the tablets have some additives in them that I'm

not sure about, polyethylene glycol is one of them. If the oil is just as

good as the tablets then I would probably go with the oil.



Ernie  





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Subject: Re: Garlic oil or garlic tablets?

From: aloedrinks@aol.comNoSpam (AloeDrinks)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:59:20 GMT

--------

>I have some garlic oil capsules which are 3mg each and according to the

>label are equivalent to 1500mg fresh garlic. As well I have some tablets

>which are odourless and equivalent to 1250mg fresh garlic. My question is

>this, which form of garlic is better to take because the oil is dirt cheap

>and has no additives but the tablets have some additives in them that I'm

>not sure about, polyethylene glycol is one of them. If the oil is just as

>good as the tablets then I would probably go with the oil.



Ernie,



You certainly want to go with the garlic suspended in oil.  The dehydration or

powdering of garlic renders it more impotent.







David H. Honaker

Aloe Vera Products

http://www.aloe-products.com





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Subject: Re: Garlic oil or garlic tablets?

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:05:51 -0800

--------

I don't remember seeing where they have identified which components of garlic

really do the good work.  You're better off consuming the fresh garlic chopped and

sprinkled in salads, etc.  The fresh contains everything garlic has; any

processing is going to destroy some part of it.



Just because to odor remains with the oil doesn't mean that the effectiveness

does.  Also, the oil can get rancid much faster than the tablets.



Gordon Held



AloeDrinks wrote:



> >I have some garlic oil capsules which are 3mg each and according to the

> >label are equivalent to 1500mg fresh garlic. As well I have some tablets

> >which are odourless and equivalent to 1250mg fresh garlic.

>

> Ernie,

>

> You certainly want to go with the garlic suspended in oil.  The dehydration or

> powdering of garlic renders it more impotent.

>

> David H. Honaker

> Aloe Vera Products

> http://www.aloe-products.com







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Subject: Re: Garlic oil or garlic tablets?

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:19:55 +0000

--------

Gordon Held wrote:

> 

> I don't remember seeing where they have identified which components of garlic

> really do the good work.  You're better off consuming the fresh garlic chopped and

> sprinkled in salads, etc.  The fresh contains everything garlic has; any

> processing is going to destroy some part of it.

> 





Gordon



I think it is pretty well established that allicin is the main active in

garlic.  Work on antibacterial properties of allicin done in the late

40's and 50's in the US (I've got the boring references if you want

them) and in the 70's in Japan on the antifungal properties.



I can't see any mention of heat stability.



As in all these things though, there's bound to be some kind of

combinative / synergistic / all in together girls action between the

different components.  It's  'hard to swallow' that a poxy 2 or 3mg in a

capsule is as good for you as the real deal lovingly prepared in the

kitchen.



Nick





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Subject: Cleaver's Herb

From: heldntenor@aol.com (Heldntenor)

Date: 26 Jan 1999 20:43:09 GMT

--------

Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it possibly have another name?

Thank you in advance.





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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: Liz Hanson <liz@zylanid.demon.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:45:11 +0000

--------

In article <19990126154309.16200.00003419@ng126.aol.com>, Heldntenor <heldnteno

r@aol.com> writes

>Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it 

>possibly have another name?

>Thank you in advance.



In UK cleavers is sometimes used as a name for goosegrass.  This is a bedstraw-

type plant which has hook-shaped hairs all over, but particularly on the fruits

which are green, spherical, and about one tenth of an inch across.  It climbs

in among other plants (brambles, tall grasses etc.) and has long stems.  The

fruits stick (or cleave) to the woolly/hairy coats of animals and so are

distributed.  Could this be the plant you mean?

-- 

Liz Hanson





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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: Jim Mulcahy <mulcahyj@wycol.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:36:49 -0500

--------

cleavers is also called goosegrass.  it is a pesky week in western ny.



Heldntenor wrote:

> 

> Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it possibly have another name?

> Thank you in advance.





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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: Deb <deb@mt.jeff.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:49:17 -0800

--------





Heldntenor wrote:



> Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it possibly have another name?

> Thank you in advance.





Galium aparine  --eat 'em while they're  young  ;>



Deb







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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:23:40 GMT

--------

On 26 Jan 1999 20:43:09 GMT, heldntenor@aol.com (Heldntenor) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it possibly have another name?

>Thank you in advance.



Cleavers is Galium aparine. The seeds are -quite- obviously male. ;)

Picture on my picture page: http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/pictures/pic-e-i.html



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:29:15 GMT

--------

Hi, Cleaver's are cleavers because they have prickly balls on top, beside a

scraggly little flower...yellow, I think, maybe white, can't remember.  And

there is another name for it, but I can't remember that either.  It's a weed! 

I had one in my yard last November, grew unprovoked beside a fire pit in wet,

boggy, pine-needly, weedy grass.  Took me most of a day to identify it with a

weed picture book from the library--don't have it now.   Lesley Bremness writes

(about getting over a cold) "...When  your temperature has returned to normal,

drink  a warm infusion of cleavers (GALIUM   APARINE) three times a day to

continue a mild perspiration action, help prevent gastric disturbance and

promote restful sleep."  So hey, go check out a weed book, look up Galium

aparine or "Cleavers", and let me know the other name, would you?  It's way

common, like bedstraw or something... but who would stuff something that

prickly in their mattress?  So it's something else.  Hmm...





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Subject: Re: Cleaver's Herb

From: Kathleen Long <bygone@cnw.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:27:11 -0800

--------

Heldntenor wrote:



> Has anyone heard of Cleaver's Herb? Does it possibly have another name?

> Thank you in advance.



Cleavers: Latin Name: Galium aparine

Common Names: Clivers, Goosegrass, Barweed, Hedgeheriff, Hayriffe, Eriffe,

Grip Grass, Hayruff,  Catchweed, Scratweed, Mutton Chops,

Robin-run-in-the-Grass, Loveman, Goosebill, Everlasting  Friendship.



                    Properties and Uses: Diuretic, tonic, alterative,

aperient used as a purifier of the blood, for scurvy, scrofula,

psoriasis, and skin diseases and eruptions generally. It has also been used

as a solvent in bladder and  kidney stones, and is soothing in insomnia

because it induces quiet, restful sleep. Increases urinary

secretions powerfully and care should be taken if one has diabetic

tendencies.







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Subject: Kidneys/Liver

From: "Blah" <blah@hotmail.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:56:38 -0800

--------

I am a practioner of Tai Chi Ch'uan.  I am looing for herbs to increase the

kidney   Yin and make it more Yang and to do the reverse with the Liver.  It

is too Yang and needs to be brought down.









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Subject: Re: Kidneys/Liver

From: "Steve Weigand" <weigand@nol.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:58:49 GMT

--------

In article <KKrr2.210$is3.911@news14.ispnews.com>,

Blah <blah@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am a practioner of Tai Chi Ch'uan.  I am looing for herbs to increase the

>kidney   Yin and make it more Yang and to do the reverse with the Liver.  It

>is too Yang and needs to be brought down.



First,  I think your reasoning is not sound.  In TCM,  if you're out of

balance,  you are unhealthy.  Therefore,  you want to balance your yin/yang

energy in your organs.



I was ready to post a large analysis of what would happen if you increased

qi in the kidneys and decreased it in the liver,  but it got complicated.

I only saw a 25% benefit,  but a 75% chance of a problem.



I think if you want to do your body a favor,  begin working on soft

breathing exercises and eventually work your way up to the microcosmic

orbit chi-kung.  This should give you more energy and will begin to

balance the organs.



Other than that,  if you know your kidneys and liver are out of balance,

you need to see a TCM doctor.  I wouldn't play with this stuff if I were

you...  I saw some potential bad side-effects to the heart in my analysis.



 - Steve Weigand

   (weigand@nol.net)  Houston,  TX







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Subject: Re: Kidneys/Liver

From: "Ben and Jessica Stier" <jstier1@san.rr.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:12:06 -0800

--------

What are some signs and symptoms that your liver and kidneys are out of

balance?  How do you know and what do you do about it if they are?  I am not

into TCM so I don't understand the microcosmic orbit chi-kung that you wrote

of.



Very curious,

jessica









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Subject: Uses of Herbs in Greece

From: "Stormie Filson" <sfilson@cwix.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:10:22 GMT

--------

I'm researching the uses of herbs in ancient Greek medicine and spirituality

(divination, "potions", old's wives tales, etc.) - so I'm looking for any

information I can gather, as well as references for good books on the

subject.



Thank you in advance.









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Subject: Re: Uses of Herbs in Greece

From: "Maryse L. Dufresne" <maryse.lap_dufr@span.ch>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:38:47 +0100

--------

Good morning,

    Check "The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols & Sacred Objects" by Barbara G.

Walker (1988, Harper SanFrancisco a division of HarperCollins Publishers

ISBN 0-06-25092303 (pbk). There is a chapter for each: flowers, plants,

trees,foodstuff etc. etc.  with references to past knowledge and interests.

It could make you happy...     MLD



Stormie Filson a crit dans le message ...

>I'm researching the uses of herbs in ancient Greek medicine and

spirituality

>(divination, "potions", old's wives tales, etc.) - so I'm looking for any

>information I can gather, as well as references for good books on the

>subject.

>

>Thank you in advance.

>

>

















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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work /soup secrets

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:00:39 GMT

--------



P & J wrote in message <36ADF3AD.7B7F3BE9@world.com>...

>> Hi J9,

>>

>> So what part did you add?   Tincture?  Loose dried flowers?  just

>> curious....

>>

>> Evelyn

>

>I had used the dried root, chopped.  I would place it in a bag so I

>could discard it after the soup was done.  I did not use much for a

>little goes a long way.  The difference was not much but enough for my

>children to notice that the soup tasted better.

>

>J9





Thanks, J9,



I have a friend who is a rather serious gardener, I will ask her if she has

any roots I can dry and try this with!



Actually I can share my own soup secret.   Every time I cook carrots or

onions or potatoes or turnips, rather than dump the cooking water down the

sink, I save it and put it in a cheap plastic deli container and freeze it.

When I make soup, I take out all these "ice cubes" of veggie water, and use

that instead of tap water.   Then I make the soup just the same way as

usual.   The soup becomes so rich and delicious from all the veggie water

that everyone wonders what on earth I do to make it so good.



Why drain all that flavor and nutrients down the sink when you can put them

to good use!



Evelyn









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Subject: Re: Herbs Dont work /soup secrets

From: nyts@dorsai.org (Bart Lidofsky)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 15:19:46 GMT

--------

In article <78lofn$kuu$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>, "The Puddies" wrote:

>Actually I can share my own soup secret.   Every time I cook carrots or

>onions or potatoes or turnips, rather than dump the cooking water down the

>sink, I save it and put it in a cheap plastic deli container and freeze it.

>When I make soup, I take out all these "ice cubes" of veggie water, and use

>that instead of tap water.   Then I make the soup just the same way as

>usual.   The soup becomes so rich and delicious from all the veggie water

>that everyone wonders what on earth I do to make it so good.



	There is actually a term for this; it's called "stock". If you

boil it down, it becomes far more concentrated, and you can use a little

bit to go a long way.



-- 

	Bart Lidofsky

	Systems Administrator

	New York Theosophical Society

	nyts@dorsai.org (official)

	bartl@sprynet.com (personal)







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Subject: ulcerative colitis

From: quandryron@aol.com (quandryron)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 02:04:08 GMT

--------

My husband has been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.  Wondering if there is

any herb out there that can help other than what the doctor prescribed for

relief.  (Sulfasalazine)  Heard that St. Johns Wort can help with cramps.  Is

there anything out there that can help with the diarhhea?





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Subject: Re: ulcerative colitis

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 27 Jan 1999 03:17:10 GMT

--------



quandryron wrote in message <19990126210408.02796.00003395@ng120.aol.com>...

>My husband has been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.  Wondering if there

is

>any herb out there that can help other than what the doctor prescribed for

>relief.  (Sulfasalazine)  Heard that St. Johns Wort can help with cramps.

Is

>there anything out there that can help with the diarhhea?





I read not too long ago that Cat's Claw has been very effective with IBS and

colitis.



It is certainly worth a try.   Also check out the newsgroup for Celiac/Sprue

disease.   There is a lot of information there that could help.



Regards,

Evelyn









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Subject: Re: ulcerative colitis

From: donwiss@spamnot.com (Don Wiss)

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:55:24 GMT

--------

On 27 Jan 1999 02:04:08 GMT, quandryron@aol.com (quandryron) wrote:



>My husband has been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.  ....  Is

>there anything out there that can help with the diarhhea?



This is the diet that some with UC use:



  Specific Carbohydrate Diet: http://www.inform.dk/djembe/scd/



Don (donwiss at panix com).





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Subject: Re: ulcerative colitis

From: "Guy Crumpley" <gcrumpley@mindspring.com>

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:51:44 -0500

--------

My wife has Crohn's (Ileitus).  She says the only thing she's found that

helps with the diarrhea is almonds (chew well).  Don't eat them during

flare-up's because they're hard to digest and will make the cramps worse.





quandryron wrote in message <19990126210408.02796.00003395@ng120.aol.com>...

>My husband has been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.  Wondering if there

is

>any herb out there that can help other than what the doctor prescribed for

>relief.  (Sulfasalazine)  Heard that St. Johns Wort can help with cramps.

Is

>there anything out there that can help with the diarhhea?









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Subject: fingernail ridges

From: "Ven" <vmleppek@terapath.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:17:47 -0700

--------

Can anyone tell me what ridges across your fingernails means? I have seen

reference to this somewhere in the past. The nails are of normal thickness,

just slightly vertically ridged.

Thanks, Ven



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Subject: Re: fingernail ridges

From: "The Puddies" <puddies@frontiernet.net>

Date: 27 Jan 1999 11:50:05 GMT

--------



Ven wrote in message <78m15h$l19$2@news1.rmi.net>...

>Can anyone tell me what ridges across your fingernails means? I have seen

>reference to this somewhere in the past. The nails are of normal thickness,

>just slightly vertically ridged.

>Thanks, Ven





Hi,





As far as I can tell you, I personally believe it is some kind of a vitamin

deficiency, but in old palmistry books, (with which I am intimately

acquainted) the belief is that ridged nails indicate pulmonary disease, such

as tuberculosis, but since that is less of a problem today, with antibiotics

available, I would say that it indicates some form of respiratory weakness.

So what I would do if I were you, is to make sure you are getting enough

calcium etc., and also to be aware of the possible respiratory involvement.



These old ideas have a funny way of turning out to be true, you know.

Remember when they told you it was an old wives tale that toads could give

you warts?   Well they later discovered that certain toads had the wart

virus living on their skin!



Evelyn





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>

>









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Subject: Re: fingernail ridges

From: curbmail1@aol.com (Curbmail1)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 12:54:02 GMT

--------

it is my understanding that ridged nails are an indication of decreased liver

function (and possible arterial disorder).  





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Subject: Re: fingernail ridges

From: Gordon Held <gheld@thegrid.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:09:43 -0800

--------





Ven wrote:



> Can anyone tell me what ridges across your fingernails means? I have seen

> reference to this somewhere in the past. The nails are of normal thickness,

> just slightly vertically ridged.

> Thanks, Ven



If you mean the ridges run from the base to the tip of the fingernail, this is

normal and almost everyone has it.  Think of it like squeezing toothpaste from

a tube.  You get ridges.



If the ridges go across the nail; that's something else.



Gordon Held







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Subject: Re: fingernail ridges

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:39:49 -0600

--------

My mother has those. They have gotten progressively worse as she has aged.

Coincidentally, so have her eating and living and working habits (i.e. works

very hard, stresses very hard, sleeps very irregularly, eats very

sporadically, takes no vitamins). I have them slightly, because I work very

hard, stress very hard, eat only slightly better than she does, and sleep

not as much as I need to.



They are very hereditary; some people might have cruddy health but no

ridges. However, they do point to health problems. Evelyn is right, if you

got yourself a palmistry book, you would be able to tell a lot about people

by their nails. (Even some non-health related things like controlling

individuals keep their nails down to the quick, and casual individuals [even

males] tend to let them grow longer.) The little white spots that occur on

nails, contrary to popular belief, are not mineral deficiency, but they are

generally due to an injury of the cuticle *before* the nail comes out.

(However, this might indicate your cuticles are dry-- do they peel? = are

you getting enough water and fatty acids?)



Whoa, that was way off topic. Anyway, yes, I would get yourself a good

supplement and pay attention to your lifestyle. It's hard to maintain a good

diet if you're busy, but do yourself a favor and at least try to nip it in

the bud now. And don't expect immediate results on the ridges going away;

remember they have to grow all the way out; they don't straighten once they

are in the nail.



hope this helps,

Hilary



Ven wrote in message <78m15h$l19$2@news1.rmi.net>...

>Can anyone tell me what ridges across your fingernails means? I have seen

>reference to this somewhere in the past. The nails are of normal thickness,

>just slightly vertically ridged.

>Thanks, Ven

>

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Subject: Re: fingernail ridges

From: "lendee" <lendee@erinet.com>

Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:50:08 GMT

--------

Vitamin B deficiency causes both horizontal and vertical ridges.



Delores



Ven <vmleppek@terapath.com> wrote in article

<78m15h$l19$2@news1.rmi.net>...

> Can anyone tell me what ridges across your fingernails means? I have seen

> reference to this somewhere in the past. The nails are of normal

thickness,

> just slightly vertically ridged.

> Thanks, Ven

> 

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> 

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Subject: bad peppermint reaction??

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:18:16 -0600

--------

My best friend and I had a cup of good strong Celestial Seasonings

peppermint tea last night. The only ingredient was peppermint leaves. Today

she had to call in sick to work because her throat was coated (I even

suggested swollen, and she wasn't sure but she didn't disagree), her eyes

were terribly puffy and her sinuses were a mess, not to mention a pounding

headache which she said worsened the longer she was upright. She went back

to bed and slept all day, solid.



The peppermint tea was the only thing she had done differently the night

before. She usually gets sick one good bout a year, for 1-2 days. This year

it happened about 2 weeks ago, and although she was recovering from sinus

rather slowly, there was no reason for her to suddenly "relapse" into a head

cold like that (and to that extent: she said she had never experienced

anything like it).



She has never had an allergic reaction to anything before. And... to

peppermint?? She has always been able to eat peppermint candy or drink teas

with peppermint in them. We are just confounded. Any suggestions?



Hilary









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Subject: Re: bad peppermint reaction??

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:23:02 GMT

--------

"Hilary" <hily@camalott.com> wrote:



>She has never had an allergic reaction to anything before. And... to

>peppermint?? She has always been able to eat peppermint candy or drink teas

>with peppermint in them. We are just confounded. Any suggestions?



Are you SURE there were no changed environmental factors?



You can suddenly develop a sensitivity to things that were

tolerated in the past, but considering the number of nasty

viruses that are available this winter, I would suspect that is's

just another viral infection or a relapse of the first one.



Some time later, you might want to repeat the tea consumption to

see if it triggers an allergic reaction (I get that reaction to

cigarette smoke).  But do it on a Friday night when nothing is

planned for the weekend.



Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: bad peppermint reaction??

From: "Sos" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:24:11 +1100

--------

Why screw up a good weekend - do it Sunday night.



Tsu Dho Nimh wrote in message <36af2e9f.7931298@news.primenet.com>...

>"Hilary" <hily@camalott.com> wrote:

>

>Some time later, you might want to repeat the tea consumption to

>see if it triggers an allergic reaction (I get that reaction to

>cigarette smoke).  But do it on a Friday night when nothing is

>planned for the weekend.











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Subject: Re: bad peppermint reaction??

From: knots@mint.net

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:31:05 GMT

--------

In article <78m0aj$leb@enews4.newsguy.com>,

  "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com> wrote:

> My best friend and I had a cup of good strong Celestial Seasonings

> peppermint tea last night. The only ingredient was peppermint leaves. Today

> she had to call in sick...(snip)



To set her mind to rest, your friend might consider having the tea from

another tea bag from the same box, analyzed by an impartial party capable of

doing so. The chances the tea was tainted are reasonable if all other

possibilities are eliminated.



Rosemarie



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Subject: herbal breast enlargement

From: lanier <lanierb@flash.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:19:10 GMT

--------

One of my patients asked me about "Grobust" for non-surgical enlargement

of breasts.  I find almost nothing about it.   Can anyone provide me a

resource to learn more?



Bob Lanier MD







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Subject: Re: herbal breast enlargement

From: "Fidla" <Fidla@excite.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:11:22 -0500

--------

Go to your favorite search engine and type "Grobust"



Duh



lanier wrote in message <36AE9427.653B51EC@flash.net>...

>One of my patients asked me about "Grobust" for non-surgical enlargement

>of breasts.  I find almost nothing about it.   Can anyone provide me a

>resource to learn more?

>

>Bob Lanier MD

>









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Subject: Re: herbal breast enlargement

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:42:06 GMT

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>Go to your favorite search engine and type "Grobust"



I was going to say something similar, except

search the words "throw away your money."



<Sorry>



LOL.





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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: Luis Yure <sukia@home.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:44:24 GMT

--------

Hi, Jennifer:



Lycopodium and omeprazole (Prilosec) in two of my clients interacted very

good, both of them used Lycopodium as tincture (30 C / 12x).  I never had a

client that used Propulsid (cisapride) - there is the possibility that this

product alone can affect your heart-, but it's quite difficult that a

infinitesimal dose of a homeopathic mother tincture product such as bugle

weed could react negatively.

There are several Homeopathic medicines which are helpful for

Gastroesophageal reflux disease (hepar sulphuris, kali bichromicum) but in

homeopathy we need a lot of information before prescribing them.

Consider seriously to change your diet to Vegan (absolutely no animal by

products: dairy, meat, eggs and no artificial additives).  Also avoid fried

foods, coffee, chocolate, citrus fruits, and tomato. I know how hard it may

sound but experiencing with international food is not only fun, but

healthy.  Your diet must be low in fats and protein but high in

carbohydrates

Aloe Vera, Proteolytic enzymes (make sure that these don't contain

hydrochloric acid) and Zinc are the supplements of choice for repairing

tissue and healing the intestinal lining.

    Try to eat several small meals during the day.  To avoid attacks at

night have distilled water close to your bed to drink at first symptom and

make sure that your head is higher than your feed, some people elevates the

mattress, others put books in the legs of the bed.

Chamomile and peppermint tea can be helpful.

Recent studies show that an underlying stress/anxiety problem could be

triggering your symptoms.  If you think that this is your case try a

holistic stress program, or join a  yoga, Tai chi or Qi qong school.  The

"a.m. Yoga" video  is  $7, and only takes 15 minutes every morning, also

you can try breathing exercises or dynamic meditation (www.osho.org has

some for free in their site).  Get Geranium and Lavender essential oils and

with a diffuser relax the atmosphere of your office and bed.

Consider Massage (Esalem massage has very good results in patients with

GERD and constipation).  Go to your favorite Bookstore and buy a good

acupressure text, easy to understand, good graphics and make sure that it

has the  points for your illness.

Give it a try to Bach Flower Remedies (this will help you in the emotional

level), they have a free booklet in health food stores so that you can know

easily which product is the best for you.

Obviously the best thing if you want to try Natural remedies is to find a

professional practitioner, be sure that he/she has credentials, a plan of

action or program and doesn't offer miracles or instant cures.

Hope this information will help you, and I'm sorry for my broken English,

Hugs,



Luis





Jennifer wrote:



> Hello,

>

> Does anyone have any information on the use of lycopodium (or any other

> alternative remedies) for the treatment of GERD/Barrett's

> Esophagus/constipation/motility problems?  Are there any drug

> interactions between homeopathic remedies such as lycopodium and

> medications such as Prilosec and Propulsid?  Thank you very much.

>

> Jennifer Mulcahy











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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: silverfern@my-dejanews.com

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:55:53 GMT

--------

In article <36AE997D.EA3FDEAE@home.com>,

  Luis Yure <sukia@home.com> wrote:

> Hi, Jennifer:

>

> Lycopodium and omeprazole (Prilosec) in two of my clients interacted very

> good, both of them used Lycopodium as tincture (30 C / 12x).  I never had a

> client that used Propulsid (cisapride) - there is the possibility that this

> product alone can affect your heart-, but it's quite difficult that a

> infinitesimal dose of a homeopathic mother tincture product such as bugle

> weed could react negatively.



homoeopathic lycopodium can be antidoted with camphor. Sometimes a remedy

causes side effects. It's important to know the antidotes. Popular myth says

peppermint, coffee, and other strong tasting foods/drinks. These do not

antidote a remedy, although they_may_limit its effectiveness. Most

practitioners recommend staying off coffee, etc. Whether or not this is

necessary is a question I've never been able to get answered satisfactorily.



    pax    silverfern



> There are several Homeopathic medicines which are helpful for

> Gastroesophageal reflux disease (hepar sulphuris, kali bichromicum) but in

> homeopathy we need a lot of information before prescribing them.

> Consider seriously to change your diet to Vegan (absolutely no animal by

> products: dairy, meat, eggs and no artificial additives).  Also avoid fried

> foods, coffee, chocolate, citrus fruits, and tomato. I know how hard it may

> sound but experiencing with international food is not only fun, but

> healthy.  Your diet must be low in fats and protein but high in

> carbohydrates

> Aloe Vera, Proteolytic enzymes (make sure that these don't contain

> hydrochloric acid) and Zinc are the supplements of choice for repairing

> tissue and healing the intestinal lining.

>     Try to eat several small meals during the day.  To avoid attacks at

> night have distilled water close to your bed to drink at first symptom and

> make sure that your head is higher than your feed, some people elevates the

> mattress, others put books in the legs of the bed.

> Chamomile and peppermint tea can be helpful.

> Recent studies show that an underlying stress/anxiety problem could be

> triggering your symptoms.  If you think that this is your case try a

> holistic stress program, or join a  yoga, Tai chi or Qi qong school.  The

> "a.m. Yoga" video  is  $7, and only takes 15 minutes every morning, also

> you can try breathing exercises or dynamic meditation (www.osho.org has

> some for free in their site).  Get Geranium and Lavender essential oils and

> with a diffuser relax the atmosphere of your office and bed.

> Consider Massage (Esalem massage has very good results in patients with

> GERD and constipation).  Go to your favorite Bookstore and buy a good

> acupressure text, easy to understand, good graphics and make sure that it

> has the  points for your illness.

> Give it a try to Bach Flower Remedies (this will help you in the emotional

> level), they have a free booklet in health food stores so that you can know

> easily which product is the best for you.

> Obviously the best thing if you want to try Natural remedies is to find a

> professional practitioner, be sure that he/she has credentials, a plan of

> action or program and doesn't offer miracles or instant cures.

> Hope this information will help you, and I'm sorry for my broken English,

> Hugs,

>

> Luis

>

> Jennifer wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > Does anyone have any information on the use of lycopodium (or any other

> > alternative remedies) for the treatment of GERD/Barrett's

> > Esophagus/constipation/motility problems?  Are there any drug

> > interactions between homeopathic remedies such as lycopodium and

> > medications such as Prilosec and Propulsid?  Thank you very much.

> >

> > Jennifer Mulcahy

>

>



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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: "Jan" <catz@ihug.co.nz>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:48:40 +1300

--------



silverfern@my-dejanews.com wrote in message

<78pfnn$tqd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>In article <36AE997D.EA3FDEAE@home.com>,

>  Luis Yure <sukia@home.com> wrote:

>> Hi, Jennifer:

>>

>> Lycopodium and omeprazole (Prilosec) in two of my clients interacted very

>> good, both of them used Lycopodium as tincture (30 C / 12x

>

>homoeopathic lycopodium can be antidoted with camphor. Sometimes a remedy

>causes side effects. It's important to know the antidotes.



Personally i have never had to antidote a remedy and have never found a

remedy to have "side-effects" i think we will all agree that these are

"man -made dis-eases",i do however see aggravations..and it is VERY

important to understand the nature of an aggravation, it is often the case

that a healing catharsis of some kind is necessary and in the direction of

cure ......one of the greatest lessons i was ever taught as a homoeopath was

to "sit on my hands".

It is my opinion that with careful case-taking and a respect for existing

pathology,and any allopathic medication being used,that cases such as theses

can be managed with the similium,however the picture is often confused by

allopathic medication and we as homoeopths must be aware which symptoms are

are allopathic side-effects and what is the true constitution.



Popular myth says

>peppermint, coffee, and other strong tasting foods/drinks. These do not

>antidote a remedy, although they_may_limit its effectiveness. Most

>practitioners recommend staying off coffee, etc. Whether or not this is

>necessary is a question I've never been able to get answered

satisfactorily.



In my experience ,i have not found coffee to be a concern,the correct

similium will still get through ,however i do agree with you ,that some

substances will limit it's effectiveness

>

>cheers Jan

BTW great to see another kiwi here ,.......<G>













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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: "Jeb" <angroy@oanet.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:15:46 -0700

--------



Jan wrote in message <78rr5u$d9t$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...

>

>Popular myth says

>>peppermint, coffee, and other strong tasting foods/drinks. These do not

>>antidote a remedy, although they_may_limit its effectiveness. Most

>>practitioners recommend staying off coffee, etc. Whether or not this is

>>necessary is a question I've never been able to get answered

>satisfactorily.

>

>In my experience ,i have not found coffee to be a concern,the correct

>similium will still get through ,however i do agree with you ,that some

>substances will limit it's effectiveness

>>

>>cheers Jan

>BTW great to see another kiwi here ,.......<G>

>

>





Hi Jan,



I was told by my homeopath that mint antidoted Cham.  and then I had a

friend who's daughter suited Cham. or Cham. suited. :)  Anyway my friend was

telling me her daughter needed Cham.  fairly often  so we talked about the

possibility of it being antidoted.   I told my friend that the only thing I

knew that would antidote Cham.  was mint.  Her daughter loved mints, so she

had her daughter stop the mint candy and the remedy held.   Best wishes.

Angela.











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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: silverfern@my-dejanews.com

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:48:22 GMT

--------

In article <36b1e1ce.0@news.oanet.com>,

  "Jeb" <angroy@oanet.com> wrote:

>

> Jan wrote in message <78rr5u$d9t$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...

> >

> >Popular myth says

> >>peppermint, coffee, and other strong tasting foods/drinks. These do not

> >>antidote a remedy, although they_may_limit its effectiveness. Most

> >>practitioners recommend staying off coffee, etc. Whether or not this is

> >>necessary is a question I've never been able to get answered

> >satisfactorily.

> >

> >In my experience ,i have not found coffee to be a concern,the correct

> >similium will still get through ,however i do agree with you ,that some

> >substances will limit it's effectiveness

> >>

> >>cheers Jan

> >BTW great to see another kiwi here ,.......<G>

> >

> >

>

> Hi Jan,

>

> I was told by my homeopath that mint antidoted Cham.  and then I had a

> friend who's daughter suited Cham. or Cham. suited. :)  Anyway my friend was

> telling me her daughter needed Cham.  fairly often  so we talked about the

> possibility of it being antidoted.   I told my friend that the only thing I

> knew that would antidote Cham.  was mint.  Her daughter loved mints, so she

> had her daughter stop the mint candy and the remedy held.   Best wishes.

> Angela.

>



Yes. But you can't generalise. Each remedy has its set of specific antidotes.

You were lucky in hitting on the right one. The Indians (from India) have

contributed a lot to homoeopathy, including the study of antidotes. Many

Indian books are available in English.



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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: silverfern@my-dejanews.com

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:43:25 GMT

--------

In article <78rr5u$d9t$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz>,

  "Jan" <catz@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>

> silverfern@my-dejanews.com wrote in message

> <78pfnn$tqd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

> >In article <36AE997D.EA3FDEAE@home.com>,

> >  Luis Yure <sukia@home.com> wrote:

> >> Hi, Jennifer:

> >>

> >> Lycopodium and omeprazole (Prilosec) in two of my clients interacted very

> >> good, both of them used Lycopodium as tincture (30 C / 12x

> >

> >homoeopathic lycopodium can be antidoted with camphor. Sometimes a remedy

> >causes side effects. It's important to know the antidotes.

>

> Personally i have never had to antidote a remedy and have never found a

> remedy to have "side-effects" i think we will all agree that these are

> "man -made dis-eases",i do however see aggravations..and it is VERY

> important to understand the nature of an aggravation, it is often the case

> that a healing catharsis of some kind is necessary and in the direction of

> cure ......one of the greatest lessons i was ever taught as a homoeopath was

> to "sit on my hands".



An unsuitable remedy can cause a 'proving' reaction. I used the term side

effect for the sake of clarity, and also because in substance that is what it

is. No practitioner can always prescribe the perfect similium, and I always

arm people with the information about antidotes to what they are taking. I

agree about the aggravation, BTW, but that is characterised by a return of or

increase in symptoms that have already been experienced. A proving is often

characterised by new symptoms that are keynotes of the remedy.



> It is my opinion that with careful case-taking and a respect for existing

> pathology,and any allopathic medication being used,that cases such as theses

> can be managed with the similium,however the picture is often confused by

> allopathic medication and we as homoeopths must be aware which symptoms are

> are allopathic side-effects and what is the true constitution.

>



As you know, there is also a difference between constitutional treatment and

symptomatic treatments. The right constitutional remedy is a longterm and

often effective way of improving health.



> Popular myth says

> >peppermint, coffee, and other strong tasting foods/drinks. These do not

> >antidote a remedy, although they_may_limit its effectiveness. Most

> >practitioners recommend staying off coffee, etc. Whether or not this is

> >necessary is a question I've never been able to get answered

> satisfactorily.

>

> In my experience ,i have not found coffee to be a concern,the correct

> similium will still get through ,however i do agree with you ,that some

> substances will limit it's effectiveness



I agree. That's why I called it myth.



> >cheers Jan

> BTW great to see another kiwi here ,.......<G>

>

Yis. You're not wrong. Me too. LOL



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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: "Jeb" <angroy@oanet.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:20:57 -0700

--------



Hi Jan,



At least Cham was the right remedy and since the mints were removed it

hasn't had to be repeated.  It was only a 30C, too.  If her mom hadn't

mentioned the mints for some reason and if my homeopath and I hadn't at one

time discussed the possible antidotes of remedies, I would have been looking

for another remedy  - the wrong thing to do in this case.  Sometimes things

just work out.  :)   Best wishes.  Angela.









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Subject: Re: Lycopodium

From: "Jan" <catz@ihug.co.nz>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:25:17 +1300

--------





>At least Cham was the right remedy and since the mints were removed it

>hasn't had to be repeated.  It was only a 30C, too.  If her mom hadn't

>mentioned the mints for some reason and if my homeopath and I hadn't at one

>time discussed the possible antidotes of remedies, I would have been

looking

>for another remedy  - the wrong thing to do in this case.  Sometimes things

>just work out.  :)   Best wishes.  Angela.



I'm glad everything worked out well.Might i suggest a good first aid course

that will also give you lots of basic information with regard to

remedies,their uses,and substances which antidote or limit their

effectiveness.

cheers

Jan

>

>









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Subject: sesame seeds in bulk?

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:24:02 -0600

--------

I have a box of Nabisco Twigs with sesame seeds that have 8% USRDA calcium.

8%!! that's a lot for a snack cracker. I know sesame seeds are well known

and lauded for their vitamin and mineral density...



Can someone tell me where I can find them in bulk? $2 plus at the grocery

store for a little bottle seems a bit much.



Thank you

Hilary









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Subject: Re: sesame seeds in bulk?

From: diana cascioli <raven@gwu.edu>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:11:56 -0400

--------

Hilary wrote:

> 

> I have a box of Nabisco Twigs with sesame seeds that have 8% USRDA calcium.

> 8%!! that's a lot for a snack cracker. I know sesame seeds are well known

> and lauded for their vitamin and mineral density...

> 

> Can someone tell me where I can find them in bulk? $2 plus at the grocery

> store for a little bottle seems a bit much.



Try Asian grocery stores. They often have bigger bottles of it for less

than what you would pay at a grocery store.





-- 

           Diana Cascioli | Cattle die, kindred die,

        GW Graphic Design | Every man is mortal:

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Subject: Re: sesame seeds in bulk?

From: "Richard Ogden" <pianalyt@gnv.fdt.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:05:47 -0500

--------

Hilary wrote in message <78m7mc$c2k@enews3.newsguy.com>...

>I have a box of Nabisco Twigs with sesame seeds that have 8% USRDA calcium.

>8%!! that's a lot for a snack cracker. I know sesame seeds are well known

>and lauded for their vitamin and mineral density...

>

>Can someone tell me where I can find them in bulk? $2 plus at the grocery

>store for a little bottle seems a bit much.

>

>Thank you

>Hilary



Hilary, if there are any oriental food stores in your area, get thee hence.

They use *tons* of sesame seeds (and oil) in their cooking and you should be

able to pick up 1 lb. bags of the seeds for a dollar or two.



Oh, and don't be confused by the "black sesame seeds" you will probably also

find.  They are just sesame seeds that happen to have a naturally darker

pigmentation, preferred for some dishes because they also (supposedly) have

a richer flavor.  (Like the difference between navy beans and black beans).



-Rich











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Subject: Vitex, False Unicorn Root, Saw Palmetto

From: Peter@gummel.franken.de (peter stohl)

Date: 27 Jan 1999 10:18:00 +0100

--------



Hi all,



I have some infertilityproblems due to lack of Ovulation. I searched now  

for a herbal Way of treating it. I thought about using Vitex, False  

Unicorn Root and/or Saw Palmetto. MY question is now: can I combinate them  

or should I take only one herb? And should I stop taking the herb(s) when  

I get pregnant or should I continue during pregnancy?  I have already  

started to drink Red Clover infusions.

Thank you for your help!!!!!



Best Wishes



Xenia





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Subject: Post-nasal drip

From: "il professore" <ilprof@thegrid.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:35:19 -0800

--------

One of the most annoying effects of the common cold is running nose. I have

found inhaling fumes of goldenrod and golden seal mixed with boric acid in

boiling very helpful in stopping the flow. Any suggestions for other herbs

which dry up the nasal passages?



Il Professore











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Subject: AIDS and Chinese herbals

From: "sokol" <sokol@prolynx.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:32:07 -0500

--------

I had a friend who was diagnosed with AIDS  (not HIV+, but AIDS itself) in

1984. He lived until 1992, primarily with the help of Chinese herbal

medicines. I never asked him what the combinations were, but I am sure that

others might find this helpful. Does anyone out there know what Chinese

herbs they might have been. The physicians who would see him in the hospitAL

WERE ALWAYS AMAZED THAT HE WAS DOING SO WELL.

 Any ideas what herbs they might have been?











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Subject: Re: AIDS and Chinese herbals

From: Rob Turpin <turpin@netsavant.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:52:26 -0700

--------





sokol wrote:



> I had a friend who was diagnosed with AIDS  (not HIV+, but AIDS itself) in

> 1984. He lived until 1992, primarily with the help of Chinese herbal

> medicines. I never asked him what the combinations were, but I am sure that

> others might find this helpful. Does anyone out there know what Chinese

> herbs they might have been. The physicians who would see him in the hospitAL

> WERE ALWAYS AMAZED THAT HE WAS DOING SO WELL.

>  Any ideas what herbs they might have been?



Herbal formulas in Chinese Medicine are tailored to fit the particular imbalance

that a person presents.  In the West names are given to describe a certain

illness but, while a term like "AIDS" defines a few parameters of a certain

condition, it doesn't define an imbalance comprehensively.



Some generalities can be made using Chinese terminology of what AIDS is but,

there is still a broad scope of excesses and deficiencies that have to be

determined for each individual.



Western definitions of illness don't describe a person's "whole" condition, they

narrowly focus on a few symptoms.



So my long winded explanation is basically saying that from a Chinese

perspective there aren't herbs specifically for AIDS.  You have to look at the

totality of the person and determine their strengths and weaknesses.  Then you

tailor the formula to the person's particular imbalance.











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Subject: Herbs to break down uric acid?

From: John@melon17.freeserve.co.uk (John )

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:28:45 GMT

--------

Are there any herbs that help to break down/eliminate

uric acid in the body?



john





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Subject: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?

From: "Carlos G" <carlosgo@ibm.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:52:30 -0600

--------



pynchon@cryogen.com wrote in message <77gf8n$56k$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>Hi,

>

>I've tried several brands of standardized extract capsules of St. John's

>Wort. I always make sure they are .3 hypericin and 300mg and I take 3 a

day.

>

>I've not found it to improve my mood. I've taken it every day for months,

one

>capsule with breakfast, one with lunch and one with dinner. Or two with

>breakfast and one with lunch. Or two with lunch and one with dinner.

>

>I've tried Nature's Way and other brands.

>

>I'm starting to wonder if the standardized extract + ground herb just

doesn't

>have the right substances in it.

>

>The latest issue of Herbalgram mentions something known as Hyperforin that

is

>now thought to be the active ingredient of St. John's Wort, rather than

>Hypericin.

>

>Any thoughts?

>

>I've started taking Perika from Nature's Way, thinking that maybe it is

closer

>to the product that the scientific tests have been completed using.

>

>Pynchon

>



I've stopped taking St. Johns 3 days ago after 2 months.  I was taking 1

capsule a day of

450 mg.  It was about my 3rd try.  This brand was Whole Foods.  This brand

worked but not

against my "low grade blues".  About 3 days ago I started to get short

tempered and edgy

around my family and then I got depressed.   Some years ago I had the exact

"I'm so edgy

I want to get out of my body" experience when xanax had been perscribed for

anxiety.  I would

sleep 12 hours and then I would be short tempered around co-workers and

family.  I wonder

if xanax is derived from St. John's wort?  Are xanax and St. John's wort the

same type of

anti-depressants (MAO inhibitors)?  If anyone has had the same experience

with the MAO

inhibitors and you found medicine or herb that work perhaps it would work

for me as well.



Has anyone with bad St. John's wort experiences had success with Kava, black

cohosh,

or passion flower?  Is there anything to take the "nasty edge" of St. John's

Wort while the

anti-depressant kicks in.



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Subject: Re: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:14:44 -0800

--------

Have you tried whole plant tincture?  I think HerbPharm makes the best.

Could be that you need more than simple standardized extract hypericin.









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Subject: Re: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?

From: "Karen" <nature@ficom.net>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:33:46 -0600

--------

I have had good results whit tincture made from wild plants, they are pretty

common almost everywhere(beware of places that might have toxic chemicals or

sprays) . I don't worry about standardized, get the same amount by making

several quarts of tincture in summer and mixing in gallon jar so its all the

same strength.

Used to take a variety of prescriptions that seemed to make things worse,

SJW tincture is not a cure all for me but neither were the pills.

Lots of info on this and relaxing herbs, wild herbs you can harvest and use,

in our library of articles on web site. Also many sjw related links on our

link page. Hope you find it helpful.

Karen Shelton

AltNature Online Herbal and Photo Gallery

http://www.altnature.com



ma pickle wrote in message <4NPr2.8556$202.4390865@news1.teleport.com>...

>Have you tried whole plant tincture?  I think HerbPharm makes the best.

>Could be that you need more than simple standardized extract hypericin.

>

>









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Subject: Re: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:50:53 -0800

--------

I'm like Karen, I harvest my own wild St John's Wort and make my own

tincture and oil.  I mix the herbs with a 50/50 blend of spring water and

grain alcohol and adjust  amonts in the blender so it is like "runny

applesauce" then place in a jar, seal and keep in cupboard for 4-6 weeks,

shaking daily. I do mput the oil in the sunlight for a couple of days to

bring out the color. I don't wory about the strength, I know it's plenty

strong. I take 2-3 dropperfuls a day (when I remember). I feel my body will

take the amount of medicine it needs from the herb, know that's hardly

scientific but I tend to run along the wise women path not the scientific

one.



Ingrid









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Subject: Re: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:35:05 GMT

--------

"Carlos G" <carlosgo@ibm.net> wrote:





>This brand worked but not against my "low grade blues".  

>About 3 days ago I started to get short tempered and edgy

>around my family and then I got depressed.   

  SJW boosts the serotonin level of the brain.  Apparently your

"blueblues are not caused by this.  



> I wonder if xanax is derived from St. John's wort? 

No

> Are xanax and St. John's wort the same type of anti-depressants

>(MAO inhibitors)?  

They both have the same effect on the serotonin levels, althiough

SJW is not, as far as I know, been proven to be a MAO inhibitor.

If you had bad luck with xanax, SJW wouldn't have worked well

either.



>inhibitors and you found medicine or herb that work perhaps it would work

>for me as well.

  Try lemon balm or damiana - they are "anti-melancholy" herbs

with a different mode of action (I don't knoe what that mode

might be, but they both have a long history of use.

  Dose??? I drink a strong tea of lemon balm (1 tablespoon to a

couple quarts of water, left to steep in the frig for at least 2

days) Damiana is available in capsules - 2-6 a day would do for a

test.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Liver damage.

From: "Adam C." <mrmojo@mindspring.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:35:29 -0500

--------

I may have some liver damage from a  bout of drug abuse in the past. 

(codeine+acetaminophen OD) ... I've fairly recently begun to live a natural 

lifestyle, and am searching for herbs and such to help rebuild the internal 

scars which I have caused.   



I'm familier with milk-thistle, and plan on starting on a daily regimen of it 

within a couple weeks.  



I would very much appreciate any advice and recommendation on this or anything 

else that may be beneficial.





Thanks in advance.



-Adam











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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:55:41 -0800

--------

milk thistle for sure plus dandelion, burdock, oregon grape.  And drink lots

of water with lemon in it. and stay away from tylenol!









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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: "Ben and Jessica Stier" <jstier1@san.rr.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:01:30 -0800

--------

Just wondering,  why should he stay away from tylenol?  Is it something that

acetamenaphren (sp?) does? I am really curious....

thanks

jessica











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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:13:18 -0800

--------

>>>Just wondering,  why should he stay away from tylenol?  >>



Notorious for damaging liver, especially if mixed with alcohol.









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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:57:38 -0600

--------

I nearly lost a friend to a couple doses of Tylenol and a beer. His liver

failed. He nearly had to have a transplant, and he is of an odd blood

type... not a happy thing. Tylenol is very bad and actually will reach a

toxic level in your liver without the presence of alcohol. Shortly after

this happened to my friend (not to imply that they were related incidents)

Tylenol and the medical community released information about the three

levels of toxicity and the dangers of using it with alcohol. This from the

drug we all took as pregnant moms! I avoid taking it as well as giving it to

my children, even though it is the main pain reliever prescribed by doctors.

Of course the reason *that* happens is the hospitals get it free in

palletfuls. It doesn't work as well on a fever and it works not at all on

teething pain. I use motrin for all of that. And I use a lot less of it.



Hilary

(rabid? yes ;)



Ben and Jessica Stier wrote in message ...

>Just wondering,  why should he stay away from tylenol?  Is it something

that

>acetamenaphren (sp?) does? I am really curious....

>thanks

>jessica

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: juniper@home.com

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:37:53 GMT

--------

ma pickle wrote"oregon grape" for liver damage,

ma I live where oregon grape grows wild, how do you

prepare it? what parts do you use?

thanks juniper







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Subject: Re: Liver damage.

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:42:07 GMT

--------

Hi Adam,  great start with herbs.  May I suggest a simple 'red flag' for you? 

Whenever the description of an herb suggests it has a 'resinous' component,

BEWARE !!!  A good ferinstance is chaparral.  Resinous components in herbs

(generally) can cause both kidney and liver problems, IF USED TOO MUCH.  Don't

misunderstand,  appropriate use of certain resinous herbs is BENEFICIAL to both

the liver and kidneys, but, CHRONIC use can be deleterious.  Please keep a

heads up where you're going and you'll benefit greatly.  Good Luck !!!





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Subject: Re: Over Watering

From: "Sos" <pauls@classware.com.au>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:11:21 +1100

--------

You are a friendly ghost then?



Michael Medina wrote in message <78laak$e9j$1@newsmaster.pathcom.com>...

>I 'm a Landscasper...









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Subject: question about Dong Quai

From: Joseph Zbiciak (im14u2c) <spam@primenet.com>

Date: 28 Jan 1999 05:39:40 GMT

--------

My name is Chris, I'm posting from my fiancee's account because my school's 

news server isn't working.  I had an important (to me) question about Dong 

Quai, and I couldn't find the answer anywhere else.  I'm on the "shot", 

Depo-Provera, and I was wondering if taking Dong Quai would have a 

detrimental effect on my birth control.  



In case you're wondering, taking birth control does weird things which I 

don't always like to my cycle, and I was hoping Dong Quai would lessen the 

effects.  I've already been on multiple different kinds of pills, and I was 

told that the shot is basically my last option, so I'm trying to make do. :)



Thanks for any and all help, in advance.



Chris :)



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Subject: NED HELP WITH UP COMING HERB WORKSHOP!

From: osti <osti@bconnex.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:45:27 -0500

--------

I want to thank all who advised me about teeth grinding first of all

.Second I have been asked to give an herb workshop by A Wiccan group in

Toronto I am not a master herbalist but have been into herbology for

more than 25 years.I am somewhat intimidated because the High priestess

of the Wiccan church of Canada who is a master herbalist will be

there!!!  I was thinking of dispensing with 'this herb is for this and

this herb is for that ' format and of coming at it from a systemic view

point. i.e.; these herb are for the blood ....these for the liver these

for the immune system....etc. The information about herbs for specific

ailments is readily available in any herb book.I am looking for any help

that any might offer in this venue.

     Thanx in advance.

   ps this a really great ng .I will be spending many years here and

will contribute any of my findings.

Peter







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Subject: Re: NED HELP WITH UP COMING HERB WORKSHOP!

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:16:05 -0800

--------

I like the systemic point of view rather than the cookbook. Also tell of

your experiences. And don't be intimidated by the High Priestess being a

"master herbalist." You have 25 yeras of experience and that is more

important than "credential titles."



Green Blessings,

Ingrid









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Subject: ...of The Jungle

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:31:13 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



Does anyone know if the company, "...of The Jungle" is still in

business? I recall a few years back reading an online text file of

various plants they carried in seed and in live form. If they're still

around, anyone have their webaddress/email/phone/mailing address/ -- any

of the above? Thanks in advance.



-Val





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Subject: Re: ...of The Jungle

From: pawgep@aol.com (Paw Gep)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:10:53 GMT

--------

...of the jungle is now Botanical Preservation Corps., 9 Mission St., Camp

Meeker, CA  95419. 707-874-1274



Jeff

http://www.cherylsherbs.com





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Subject: Japanese herbs

From: dsdsupport@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Stuart Davis")

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:33:02 GMT

--------

Does anyone know anything about herbs used in Japan, both for medicine and 

for cosmetic purposes?  TIA.



Stuart





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Physicians Desk Reference (PDR) for Herbal Medicines Now Available!

From: jmarnell@SPAMBLOCKER.netcomuk.co.uk

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:15:30 GMT

--------

On 27 Jan 1999 05:20:45 GMT, srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon) wrote:



>Hi there.  I am VERY interested in acquiring a copy of your PDR for HM.  Can

>you supply me with cost, where to send for it, etc.?  Thank you in advance. 

>:-)



Try the website they mentioned in the previous message:

http://www.rainforestherbs.com/books/pdrforherbalmedicines.html



I think it was $59.95+$5 P&H=$64.95



It seems a lot of people aren't too impressed with it though. You

might want to see if you can sneak a peek at your local book shop

before you shell out that kind of money for it.



GCM





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Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Vitamins & Constipation

From: darkskies@my-dejanews.com

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:32:01 GMT

--------

I have been taking a multivitamin, an extra B and an extra C vitamin daily.

Is it possible that this could cause constipation?  If so, what would

you recommend that I do to correct the situation (since I really don't wish

to stop taking the vitamins).



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Subject: Re: Vitamins & Constipation

From: "physical (Droll Troll)" <physical@erols.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:04:15 -0500

--------

darkskies@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> 

> I have been taking a multivitamin, an extra B and an extra C vitamin daily.

> Is it possible that this could cause constipation?  If so, what would

> you recommend that I do to correct the situation (since I really don't wish

> to stop taking the vitamins).

> 

> Many thanks to all who reply!

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	Iron is known to cause constipation.  No longer considered the best

thing to supplement with, esp. males. 

	LOTS of vitamin C can help with constipation.  There are all kinds of

tricks for acute constipation, but the best preventative is fibre.

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Subject: cancer and barley grass

From: "Shender" <shender@redshift.com>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:53:14 -0800

--------

My mom has "pre-cancerous" skin cancers on her face, which her dematologist

has to remove several times a year.  She wears 15 UV sunblock daily.  I read

in an herbal book that barley grass powder is supposed to be a good

anti-oxidant and possible cancer preventative.  Does anyone have more

information on this regarding its usage?  Thanks for your replies.



Lisa

shender@redshift.com











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Subject: Re: Any other bad St. John's Wort experiences?/the xanax ?

From: adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 11:17:01 EST

--------

In article <36afc292.0@news1.ibm.net>

"Carlos G" <carlosgo@ibm.net> writes:

 

>family.  I wonder

>if xanax is derived from St. John's wort?  Are xanax and St. John's wort the

>same type of

>anti-depressants (MAO inhibitors)?  If anyone has had the same experience

 

 Nope. Apples and oranges.

 

 Xanax is alprazolam, a benzodiazepam. It is used for anxiety and panic,

sometimes as a muscle relaxant, and is not an antidepressant. It is often

used in people with anxiety disorders and depression though.

 Actual rx MAO inhibitors are very rarely used these days; in more than 5

years working in a pharmacy I have seen *1* individual on one. The

interactions, particularly with food, are way too numerous.

 

 Personally I have goon from xanax to kava kava and valerian. I wasn't

impressed with kava kava at first, but it does seem to take the edge off.

 

Anne





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Subject: sterilizing soil/house from spider mites

From: adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 11:25:47 EST

--------

 I recently lost most of my house herbs to spider mites and (I think)

mealy bugs. I have removed the plants, but I would like to start over and I'm

not quite sure what I need to do to get rid of the pests. I'm assuming the soil

should just be dumped... what precautions should I take with the pots and the

areas where the plants were? I'm not too familiar with the life cycles of herb

pests (I've never had any before, <snif>) and none of my books address this

question.

 

Thanks in advance,

Anne





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Subject: Re: sterilizing soil/house from spider mites

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:22:42 GMT

--------

You can try microwaving your soil to kill off any organisms. Your pots, if

plastic, can be washed in a dishwasher and clay pots can be oven baked. Good

luck!

Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Subject: Re: sterilizing soil/house from spider mites

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:45:03 GMT

--------

adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu wrote:



> I recently lost most of my house herbs to spider mites and (I think)

>mealy bugs. I have removed the plants, but I would like to start over and I'm

>not quite sure what I need to do to get rid of the pests. I'm assuming the soil

>should just be dumped...

  Dump it on the compost heap or in the garden.



> what precautions should I take with the pots and the

>areas where the plants were?

  Scrub the pots with hot soapy water and set them outside to dry

in the sun.  

  If you are anal-retentive, you could wash down the houseplant

area with mild soap and warm water, then dry it.



  In the future, check potential purchases before you buy them -

look under the leaves for signs of mites or bugs.  Treat them

anyway when you get them home, and keep them quarantined for a

while.  A spray of 1 tablespoon of oil and 1/4 teaspoon of liquid

dish detergent in a quart of water - and really saturate them

once a week for three weeks before you let them mingle with your

older plants.

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: rosemary plant help needed!

From: adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 11:30:01 EST

--------

 I had the most beautiful huge rosemary plant, which I sent to my mom in

august or so. It did really well for a few months (it has been the most

amazing plant) but recently it has been going downward fast.

Large parts of it have died off, not the ends of the branches but from the pot

to about 3/4's of the way to the tip. She swears it has enough light and is

kept moist. Any ideas what the problem could be? I really didn't see any signs

of disease or pests (other than all the dead plant parts) and it did leave my

house several months before I discovered the spider mites et al.

 

Thanks in advance,

Anne





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Subject: Re: rosemary plant help needed!

From: "Chris+Beth Jensen" <zillah@ime.net>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:25:18 -0500

--------

Rosemary can be a very sensitive houseplant.  It is suseptible to root rot,

(too much moisture which suffocates the roots)  I have had the best luck

letting the plant dry out a bit before watering again.

adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu wrote in message

<182D4A1BB.ADELEKTA@kentvm.kent.edu>...

> I had the most beautiful huge rosemary plant, which I sent to my mom in

>august or so. It did really well for a few months (it has been the most

>amazing plant) but recently it has been going downward fast.

>Large parts of it have died off, not the ends of the branches but from the

pot

>to about 3/4's of the way to the tip. She swears it has enough light and is

>kept moist. Any ideas what the problem could be?









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Subject: Re: rosemary plant help needed!

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:46:24 GMT

--------

adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu wrote:



>Large parts of it have died off, not the ends of the branches but from the pot

>to about 3/4's of the way to the tip. She swears it has enough light and is

>kept moist.

  Perhaps too moist? 





>of disease or pests (other than all the dead plant parts) and it did leave my

>house several months before I discovered the spider mites et al.

  A frw of them might have been on the plant - an iol/soap/water

spray might save it.

Tsu Dho Nimh



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Subject: Re: rosemary plant help needed!

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:28:37 GMT

--------

Hi there,  Ah Rosemary !!! The plant is indigenous to arid regions indicating

the need for water but with the ability to resist drought as well.  Though

Rosey comes in a dizzying array of varieties, most do well with the following

points in mind;  its' soil must be well-drained, neutral to alkaline, full sun,

and with protection in arears subject to unusual cold conditions.  A big enemy

of Rosey is mildew.  Provide good (very good that is) air circulation during

the winter season and remove dead stems and straggly shoots in the spring time.

 Rosey very much dislikes cold, wet winters, and poorly drained soils.  Good

Luck !!!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Vegetable & Essential Oils for head lice

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:14:06 GMT

--------

I once de-loused SIX children (3 were visiting for the week, one was terribly

infested) using a recipe in THE COMPLETE BOOK OF HERBS by Lesley Bremness.  It

was expensive buying 4 essential oils, but cheaper than 6 bottles of poison! 

And it not only worked, it kept on working, made combing easy... Don't use

dishwashing liquid to wash out oils... it's good prevention and easier combing

if the hair stays a little slippery after a regular shampoo.  A dry scalp (also

very fine hair) is more likely to become reinfested.  Fine-toothed combing must

 be done nightly, religiously, for a solid week or as long as it takes.  Nits'

favorite places are the hair whorl up top, the base of the neck, and behind the

ears--fine hairs!  Remember that it's not the  child's fault, let him/her take

a popsicle break or stretch now and then (you will need hair clips)--children

can't sit still for as long as it takes to do a thorough job--but be firm and

do finish or call a friend to help.  If you have bad eyes, you will need help. 

Pour boiling water over the comb and clips each night when you're done;

disinfect the counter; wipe the chair.



Before you begin, HOTWATER WASH AND MACHINE DRY all bed linens, sleeping bags,

stuffed animals, used bathtowels, clothing... (if it won't tolerate it you have

to seal it as airtight as you can in plastic sacks for several times the 6-day

life cycle of your average louse, then wash regularly)... vacuum the heck out

of mattress edges and pillows--we bagged up some pillows for three weeks just

in case--also vacuum the carpet frequently all week.  



Here's the recipe, originally developed by Maggie Tisserand, who wrote

Aromatherapy for Women:

25 drops rosemary oil

25 drops lavender oil

13 drops geranium oil

12 drops eucalyptus oil

Combine these in 1/3 cup vegetable oil

(personal note:  olive oil is great, but salad or cooking oil works too... I

forgot to tell you:  PUT A BIG OLD T-SHIRT ON the child  and yourself, it

dribbles just everywhere)

"Divide the hair into small sections and saturate each section with the mixture

down to the roots.  Pile long hair on top of the head ensuring that every bit

is oiled.  Wrap plastic around the head and behind the ears to stop the oils

from evaporating.  Make sure that small children cannot move the plastic

anywhere near the nose or mouth and restrict breathing.  Leave it on for 2

hours.  (Personal note:  you can warm up damp towels to wrap around the plastic

after the first hour, keeps it moist)  Remove the plastic, add (REGULAR)

shampoo and rub in well, rinse thoroughly and comb through with a fine nitcomb.

 Repeat three days later."

This does NOT function like Agent Orange, so you will find nits and you may

find new hatchlings for a few days, but they will be sluggish, smaller, and

fewer, then GONE.  Nits look like grains of sugar; they usually cling to the

hair shaft about 1/2 inch from the scalp; lice are grey or brown and that's all

I want to remember.  Good luck, Don't take it personally because lice are poor

judges of character, and Don't Give Up!  





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Costmary to Ease Childbirth

From: wooshka@aol.com (Wooshka)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:35:57 GMT

--------

Does anything really ease childbirth?  I know what (some of) the books say. 

Does anyone have any personal experience, as patient or practitioner/midwife or

daddy or whatever, with Costmary (Alecost) or anything that worked?  Less than

6 weeks to my due date, fourth child... but my last one was born seven years

ago and I'm getting nervous!  No one's going to hold my hand this time... I'll

need one mean cup of tea.  Thanks.

--Wooshka





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Subject: Re: Costmary to Ease Childbirth

From: mavinci2@aol.complicated (MaVinci2)

Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:56:33 GMT

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>Does anything really ease childbirth? 



Yes, an epidural.  Not kidding, that is ALL.

--------------------------------------

Robin

Aurora, Colorado





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Subject: Re: Costmary to Ease Childbirth

From: P & J <pjerlandsen@world.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:18:51 GMT

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Wooshka wrote:

> 

> Does anything really ease childbirth?  I know what (some of) the books say.

> Does anyone have any personal experience, as patient or practitioner/midwife or

> daddy or whatever, with Costmary (Alecost) or anything that worked?  

> --Wooshka





I have not heard of Costmary for childbirth but I used Raspberry tea

(Start that now) and I took Blue Cohosh during my last month of

pregnancy.  I also used lavender for my last pregnancy (number 4).  I

made up sachets and placed them around the house several weeks before

the baby was due (I was a week past due with the last three).  When the

labor started I showered with an herbal soap scented with the lavender

essential oil then placed more lavender around the bedroom.  Lavender is

relaxing and will help with the nerviousness and can be used during

labor if you are tiring by bringing one up close to the face and

inhailing the scent it will give you energy.  



I had the last three at home in my own room and I will never go back to

the hospital again after experiencing a home birth it was like night and

day.  My midwife was full of information on how to ease any of my

problems with the pregnancy.



J9





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: best combination of herbs for wounds?

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:18:35 -0600

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Hi-

What do you all consider the best compound to dress wounds?  Does it

depend on the wound?  (This is for research purposes only).  Thanks for

any help.



Mara





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: best combination of herbs for wounds?

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:54:59 GMT

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eyoll@mcia.com wrote:



>Hi-

>What do you all consider the best compound to dress wounds?  

The less you do to them, the better they heal!  There is a tissue

growth simulating compound in saliva, so the instinct to lick a

sctatch or cut is a good one.



>Does it depend on the wound?

  Depands on the wound of course, and what caused it and how long

it's been since it happened.  Most need nothing, but a 3-day old

silage cut that already has red streaks headed up the leg

requires immediate hospitalization and possible amputation.

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: best combination of herbs for wounds?

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:42:55 GMT

--------

On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:54:59 GMT, abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>>What do you all consider the best compound to dress wounds?  

>The less you do to them, the better they heal!  There is a tissue

>growth simulating compound in saliva, so the instinct to lick a

>sctatch or cut is a good one.



...until you get blood poisoning from all the bugs in your saliva. So don't. And

don't let your dog lick it either.



Good herbs for wounds are Calendula, Plantago (plantain), Symphytum (comfrey).



Henriette



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Subject: Re: best combination of herbs for wounds?

From: andipantz@aol.com (AndiPantz)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 17:18:20 GMT

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<< There is a tissue

>growth simulating compound in saliva, so the instinct to lick a

>sctatch or cut is a good one.>>





The instinct to lick a cut is a bad one!  Human saliva has tons of bacteria. 

More so, than most species on this earth.  You're better off letting your dog

lick your cut, but still not a good idea.  Besides, sucking up all that blood

would give you a nasty tummy!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: asthma & bronchial problems

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:25:46 -0600

--------

Apart from coltsfoot and mullein, what other herbs are smoked or used in

other ways to treat bronchial problems?  Which herbs appear to work the

most beneficially?  Has anyone ever used any of these herbs during a

mild asthma attack?  Do they work immediately or take a few minutes

<whether smoked or taken some other way>?  I'm also trying to find

information on which herbs were in use to treat respiratory problems,

esp. asthma, before modern medications for respiratory problems <i.e.

more than a century ago and earlier> and how they were taken, and how

effective they were.  Any info or suggestions on where to locate info is

deeply appreciated-thanks.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: asthma & bronchial problems

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:57:17 GMT

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eyoll@mcia.com wrote:



>Apart from coltsfoot and mullein, what other herbs are smoked or used in

>other ways to treat bronchial problems?  Which herbs appear to work the

>most beneficially?  Has anyone ever used any of these herbs during a

>mild asthma attack?  Do they work immediately or take a few minutes

><whether smoked or taken some other way>?  

  The quickest acting would be smoked, but a tea of ephedra takes

effect in about 15 minutes. 



>I'm also trying to find

>information on which herbs were in use to treat respiratory problems,

>esp. asthma, before modern medications for respiratory problems <i.e.

>more than a century ago and earlier> and how they were taken, and how

>effective they were.

  Ask your local library to get you some copies of old medical

books in Interlibrary loan - and locate a copy of the 1771

Encyclopedia Britannica (in reprint it is faily comon).

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: asthma & bronchial problems

From: srfdragon@aol.com (SrfDragon)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:05:38 GMT

--------

Hi there,  please allow me to comment on one aspect of your inquiry first. 

That is the use of herbs as a 'smoke'.  It's important to realize that smoke is

in and of itself a respiratory irritant with chronic application a cancer

causing agent all by its' lonesome.  The trick?  Whatever you smoke, smoke it

in a long pipe, such as a replica of a 'peace pipe' or similiar.  The effects

of herbal smoke is in the volatile oils that are released , not in  the fact 

that  you are inhaling 'smoke'.  Bottom line;  try to 'cool' the smoke of

whatever it is you are smoking. Another herb for respiratory problems is

Lobelia inflata.  Don't hold the smoke in like marihuana smokers do, just

breath in deeply and avoid the hypoxic state weed smokers feel by holding their

breath.  It works.  Good Luck !!!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: ephedrine

From: eyoll@mcia.com

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:26:15 -0600

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Is ma huang the only herb from which you can get ephedrine?





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: ephedrine

From: swethno@aol.com (SW Ethno)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 02:25:23 GMT

--------

eyoll@mcia.com writes:

>Is ma huang the only herb from which you can get ephedrine?

Yes, I believe so. However, please be aware that Ma Huang is a term used to

describe several species and subspecies of Ephedra. One notable exception to

this is Ephedra nevadensis. It contains no ephedrine, but, contains

norpseudoephedrine as its primary alkaloid. Hope this helps!  





Happy trails to you,

Roger Artman

Southwest Ethnobotanicals

http://midtown.net/southwest







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: pregnancy

From: "lis" <dldavy@lr.net>

Date: 29 Jan 1999 04:47:20 GMT

--------

I'm newly pregnant and was wondering if any of my herbal supplements are

dangerous to the pregnancy.  I've read in books where women eat secret

things growing in the woods to end a pregnancy.  Hope I'm not eating any of

that stuff!



Thanks,



Lisa

dldavy@lr.net





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: pregnancy

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:39:48 GMT

--------

>I'm newly pregnant and was wondering if any of my herbal supplements are

>dangerous to the pregnancy.  I've read in books where women eat secret

>things growing in the woods to end a pregnancy.  Hope I'm not eating any of

>that stuff!

>

>Thanks,

>

>Lisa



Get Susun Weed's Child Bearing Year, she will tell you which herbs are good and

which are bad during pregnancy.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: pregnancy

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:50:28 -0600

--------

I can't say this enough: for morning sickness, peppermint. Eat it, drink it,

smell it. It's the only thing that worked for me.



Hilary



lis wrote in message <01be4b4e$1953b0c0$0e9403cf@lisadavy>...

>I'm newly pregnant and was wondering if any of my herbal supplements are

>dangerous to the pregnancy.  I've read in books where women eat secret

>things growing in the woods to end a pregnancy.  Hope I'm not eating any of

>that stuff!

>

>Thanks,

>

>Lisa

>dldavy@lr.net









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Genital Warts

From: shethinks <shethinks@yahoo.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:50:22 GMT

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http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/hpv



    A rapidly growing group of people is gathering at the above site,

all of whom are infected with HPV, the human papilloma virus, which

causes genital warts and, in a small percentage of women, cervical

cancer.

    HPV is sexually transmitted and reaching epidemic proportions, but

it's often a shameful secret for those who carry the virus. 

    There is no cure for HPV; outbreaks of visible warts go away with

treatment -- often any treatment -- only to return years later, in new

outbreaks often triggered by stress.

     Although medical professionals often dismiss HPV as no big deal,

those who suffer from it feel like lepers, and often avoid relationships

rather than infect others or risk rejection when they tell potential

partners that making love would infect them with an incurable, unsightly

virus.



    If you're infected, please join us. It's a relief to talk openly

with others of all ages in the same boat. 

    

    If you can help heal us, please come too. 

    You can read the site at this url. If you want to post, just join;

it's all free.

    

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/hpv





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: hair loss

From: "lis" <dldavy@lr.net>

Date: 29 Jan 1999 05:10:31 GMT

--------

any herbs that are really good to stop hair loss?  It is fall ing out of my

head a t an alarming rate, yet I am afraid of growing it all over my body

and face (I'm female)



Thanks.



dldavy@lr.net





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: hair loss

From: "Arkansas Deb" <thomasclan@earthlink.net>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:34:19 -0600

--------

Have you been seen by a doctor? I had a similiar problem and the doctors

checked me over for thyroid problems. I was grateful that thyroid was not

the problem, and we finally chalked it up to tremendous stress due to the

lengthy illnesses of my mother and mother-in-law...and then they died within

six months of each other.

After a while the hair loss was not stopping, so I tried Nioxin, a shampoo

and treatment recommended by a salon. It is mostly aloe vera and I wonder if

aloe might be a treatment for this. The shampoo and treatment are expensive

and I couldn't continue it. I also heard that tea tree oil shampoo used

regularly might help. Some people attribute this to menapause and a change

of hormones. I even had a hairdresser tell me that it was due to estrogen

building up on the scalp and if I would wash it VERY often that it would

help. I was afraid to do that because every time I washed it handfuls of

hair came out. But in the longrun, just keeping my scalp squeeky clean has

helped.



I would be interested also in any feedback.



Deb T homas

lis wrote in message <01be4b51$5767b0c0$0e9403cf@lisadavy>...

>any herbs that are really good to stop hair loss?  It is fall ing out of my

>head a t an alarming rate, yet I am afraid of growing it all over my body

>and face (I'm female)

>

>Thanks.

>

>dldavy@lr.net











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: gulf war

From: "me" <shang_john@hotmail.com>

Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:52:10 PST

--------

Hi are there any good persian gulf war syndrome herbal or homeopathic

treatment sites.



thanks













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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:36:18 GMT

--------

>I know that there are herbs to end a pregnancy but are there any

>reliable herbs to prevent pregnacy?     Azrael

>

>



Some believe that a tablespoon of Wild Carrot seeds keep them from becoming

pregnant but I'm not sure if any "reliable" testing has been done.



Belinda





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 22:54:15 GMT

--------

>>I know that there are herbs to end a pregnancy but are there any

>>reliable herbs to prevent pregnacy?     Azrael

>>

>>

>

>Some believe that a tablespoon of Wild Carrot seeds keep them from becoming

>pregnant but I'm not sure if any "reliable" testing has been done.

>

>Belinda



Oh heavens...posting in the morning again...that would be daily not just once.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: "lis" <dldavy@lr.net>

Date: 30 Jan 1999 05:30:07 GMT

--------

what are the herbs to end pregnancy?



Lis



Bilherbs <bilherbs@aol.com> wrote in article

<19990129175415.09534.00001534@ng-cg1.aol.com>...

> >>I know that there are herbs to end a pregnancy but are there any

> >>reliable herbs to prevent pregnacy?     Azrael







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Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:46:55 GMT

--------

On 30 Jan 1999 05:30:07 GMT, "lis" <dldavy@lr.net> wrote in alt.folklore.herbs:



>what are the herbs to end pregnancy?



Herbs are nothing to play around with for abortion. First, in large enough doses

they kill both woman and fetus, second, if they don't you might end up being

pregnant with a defect kid. Go get a legal abortion if you're so inclined.



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie)

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:32:56 -0600

--------

azrael23@webtv.net <azrael23@webtv.net> wrote:

>I know that there are herbs to end a pregnancy but are there any

>reliable herbs to prevent pregnacy?     Azrael



Oak leaf.  Held tightly between the knees.



(sorry, couldn't resist)



-- 

  jamie  (mjwm@austin.rr.com)



  		"There's a seeker born every minute."





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Pregnancy Prevention

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:54:32 GMT

--------

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:32:56 -0600, jamie@bozo.local.net (jamie) wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>azrael23@webtv.net <azrael23@webtv.net> wrote:

>>I know that there are herbs to end a pregnancy but are there any

>>reliable herbs to prevent pregnacy?     Azrael

>

>Oak leaf.  Held tightly between the knees.



Aw come on. I betcha that's only about 20 % safe as a contraceptive method; 

the 20 % being people with not enough imagination.



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Inula helenium / elecampane

From: Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:44:09 +0000

--------

aka scabwort (ah, the poetry of flower names..)



Did anyone ever come across an extract of this?



Was it standardized?



To inulin?



Am I pushing it uphill?



Pls FLOOD your replies to the group so I can read them at leisure over

the weekend 



swalk

Nick  xx





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Inula helenium / elecampane

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:49:37 GMT

--------

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:44:09 +0000, Nick <hero.uk@mcmail.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>aka scabwort (ah, the poetry of flower names..)

>Did anyone ever come across an extract of this?

>Was it standardized?

>To inulin?



That would be silly. Inulin is just a sugar, indigestible to humans. To get the

value of Inula helenium (elecampane) you need the OTHER components. 

For example, there's lots of inulin in Jerusalem artichokes, burdock roots,

dandelion roots - but you don't see -those- used in coughs, do you?



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: L-Arginine Question

From: maggiecttr@aol.com (Maggiecttr)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:53:31 GMT

--------

Can I take L-Arginine, say, 500 mg. once a day if I'm also on a penicillin-type

antibiotic and Nystatin?

Thanks!





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: info on creating antacid tablet

From: Jodi Yeager <mamajo@netexp.net>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:29:51 -0500

--------

Hello, I'm new to posting here.



I grow and use herbs for my families use.  I'm pretty new at it--only been at it

for about 3 years, but enjoy it very much.



My question of the group is how do you make an antacid type tablet?  I bought a

really nice tablet that contains peppermint, ginger and anise.  I would like to buy

the herbs in bulk and make them into a tablet myself, but am stuck as to what to

use to bind the herbs together that would be chewable.



TIA!



Peace,

MamaJo











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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: info on creating antacid tablet

From: "ma pickle" <mapickle@teleport.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:07:23 -0800

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Sounds like neutralizing cordial. HerbPharm sells in tincture form.









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Tila Tea

From: "Patsy Kripps" <patsyk@prodigy.net>

Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:34:11 GMT

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Can someone tell me about Tila Tea and what it is used for and how do I get

it. Thanks







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: Tila Tea

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:59:54 GMT

--------

"Patsy Kripps" <patsyk@prodigy.net> wrote:



>Can someone tell me about Tila Tea and what it is used for and how do I get

>it. Thanks



It is "Linden Flower" tea under the Spanish or Mexican name for

that tree (Tilea Europea).  It is a good cure for occasional

bouts of insomnia, and also works for nervous stress.  It is

usually mixed with chamomile to counteract its constipating

effect.



  If you want the already prepared "TILA" brand, I ger mine at a

KMART in a Hispanic Neighborhood or at one of the "Yerberias". 







Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: looking for herbals to buy but in germany??

From: karina2@aol.com (Karina2)

Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:13:22 GMT

--------

Hi Andre,

the best place to find herbs in Germany is usually at the weekly markets even

small towns offer , mainly on Saturdays, sometimes the sellers even grow them

themselves. In pharmacies you'll usually get every herb you want, if they don't

have it in stock they will get it normally till the next day.

If you've got any further questions, just send me an email.

Ciao,

Karina Schmidt

Karina Schmidt





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: The dreaded "women's problems"

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:02:54 -0600

--------

Specifically, PMS. Will don quai help? I am talking about sharp mood swings

(what my best friend calls "whiplash") bordering on paranoia. I mean the

nobody-loves-me blues in the worst way, and intellectually I *know* it's

hormonal but I don't know what to do about it. I have tried St. John's Wort

but to no effect. I am not taking any birth control hormones. Any help would

be greatly appreciated.



Hilary









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: The dreaded "women's problems"

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:52:31 GMT

--------

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:02:54 -0600, "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>Specifically, PMS. Will don quai help? I am talking about sharp mood swings

>(what my best friend calls "whiplash") bordering on paranoia. I mean the

>nobody-loves-me blues in the worst way, and intellectually I *know* it's

>hormonal but I don't know what to do about it. I have tried St. John's Wort

>but to no effect. I am not taking any birth control hormones. Any help would

>be greatly appreciated.



Try Vitex in the last two weeks of your monthly cycle. That should remedy your

progesterone dropout day 11 or 12 (instead of day 14 or 15), which results in

aldosterone getting to your kidneys, which results in both a "pig bladder"

bloated feeling and a lousy mood.



Henriette



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: The dreaded "women's problems"

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:05:55 -0500

--------

Dong Quai is used specifically for that PMS problem and has the

reputation of being very effective for most women! It is actually the

most widely used tonic in the world.  

 

     Donald Levell, M.H.





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: The dreaded "women's problems"

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 01:28:42 GMT

--------

>Specifically, PMS. Will don quai help? I am talking about sharp mood swings

>(what my best friend calls "whiplash") bordering on paranoia. I mean the

>nobody-loves-me blues in the worst way, and intellectually I *know* it's

>hormonal but I don't know what to do about it. I have tried St. John's Wort

>but to no effect. I am not taking any birth control hormones. Any help would

>be greatly appreciated.

>

>Hilary



Try Motherwort tincture and perhaps get yourself a copy of Susun Weed's

Menopausal Years. Some say menopause is like PMS.



Belinda









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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: old dog with a bad tooth

From: ms_ctree@webtv.net (Lj Crabtree)

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:15:39 -0500 (EST)

--------

just wondering what herbal/homeopathic remedies might be successful in

treating an older dog with a tooth that sometimes "acts up" --- possibly

echinacea? low doses?







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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: old dog with a bad tooth

From: Valerian <valerian@home.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:15:28 GMT

--------

x-no-archive: yes



Lj Crabtree wrote:

> just wondering what herbal/homeopathic remedies might be successful in

> treating an older dog with a tooth that sometimes "acts up" --- possibly

> echinacea? low doses?



I suggest you take your dog into the vet. If the tooth has to be

removed, so be it. Dogs with teeth problems require immediate

professional attention - they can get sick & die very easily with

teeth/gum problems. It's not something to treat yourself with herbs.



-Val





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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs

Subject: Re: old dog with a bad tooth

From: "jean" <vitranjx@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:35:55 -0600

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yep, got to agree here....my dog had her teeth cleaned by a vet..and 2 weeks

later came up with the infection that settles under the eye froma tooth

infection..seems that because of the scraping it moved some bacteria and she

got this infection....this isn't seen too often in dogs these days...but can

be deadly if left untreated...if you care about yer pooch...take her/him

in....



jean



ma pickle wrote in message ...

>I agree with Val, please take your dog to the vet regarding this tooth.

>

>









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Subject: New pics on my site...

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:54:43 GMT

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go have a look: http://metalab.unc.edu/herbmed/pictures/herbpics.html



125 pics, mainly from the Southwest US last spring, added today. If you know

your southwestern US plants try your hand at the unknowns - it's your route to

instant fame, as anyone giving a good ID will get a honorable mention.



Cheers

Henriette

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Subject: Yohimbe for Impotence?

From: cravin69@hotmail.com (OldernOlder)

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 02:42:57 -0900

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Aside from Rx of Yohimbine, anyone know of effectiveness of Yohimbe off

the shelves of health food stores in impotence or erectile problems?



Can effectiveness be increased with combinations of other herbs, eg.

Ginseng...? Please email.





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Subject: Water retention help from misc.health.alternative

From: "Hilary" <hily@camalott.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:13:15 -0600

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This is something posted in misc.health.alternative and I was thinking

perhaps if anyone here came up with something, you might e-mail a reply to

this person? ttxyxexr@airxmail.net I couldn't recall which herbs were

recently said to be good diuretics.



Hilary



-----Original Message-----

From: (//trxby) <ttxyxexr@airxmail.net>

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 2:49 PM

Subject: Water Retention - Help?





>

>

>A 77 year old man I know has a major problem with water retention.

>Although his feet and legs are quite swollen, he gains so much water

>around his middle that doctors have tapped off over a gallon or more a

>few times. The water comes back.

>

>He's taking Lasix, which seems to keep a bad situation from becoming

>worse, but it isn't the answer. His doctors can't offer anything more.

>

>Any suggestions to help a great guy to continue enjoying his

>retirement?

>

>Thanks,

>Mike

>

>









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Subject: Valerian Root

From: andipantz@aol.com (AndiPantz)

Date: 30 Jan 1999 17:33:32 GMT

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I have had a restless sleep lately and a friend of mine suggested Valerian

Root.  I went and bought some and started taking it.  How long does it take for

it to take effect?  It didn't really seem to relax me for a better sleep. 

Instead, I had a lot of weird dreams that I remember...I never remember my

dreams.



Does anyone have any comments on the use of valerian root for sleep?









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Subject: Re: Valerian Root

From: "louise & mike gourdoux" <lgourdoux@centuryinter.net>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:54:15 -0600

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It would be helpful to know how much and what brand you are taking. I find

that valerian helps me to sleep about 75% of the time I take it. I take

450mg. On some nights (when I am really keyed up) it does nothing at al. If

I take 900 mg I find an unpleasant aftereffect (hangover) in the morning.

This usually disappears by md day. Hope this helps!















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Subject: Goldenseal

From: "wanderer" <w_anderer@hotmail.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:23:37 GMT

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If goldenseal is placed in hot steamy water and inhaled, is it beneficial?

Will it help

mitigate sinusitis in this form?











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Subject: Re: Goldenseal

From: hetta@saunalahti.fi (Henriette Kress)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:09:00 GMT

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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:23:37 GMT, "wanderer" <w_anderer@hotmail.com> wrote in

alt.folklore.herbs:



>If goldenseal is placed in hot steamy water and inhaled, is it beneficial?

>Will it help mitigate sinusitis in this form?



Nope.

Use Oregon grape tincture for this. Internally.



Goldenseal is nearly gone, so don't buy it (unless you know the guy who sells it

to you grows it), don't use it, don't tell folks to take it. Read up on it in

the medicinal herbfaq, too (see my .sig).



Henriette



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Subject: Re: Goldenseal

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:00:59 GMT

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"wanderer" <w_anderer@hotmail.com> wrote:



>If goldenseal is placed in hot steamy water and inhaled, is it beneficial?

  No.  

For this kind of treatment you need camphor, thyme, or

eucalyptus.  Of the three, camphor is the strongest.



>Will it help mitigate sinusitis in this form?

 To clear sinusitis, echinacea AND an antibacterial like thyme,

myrrh, or eucalyptus taken internally (listen to Ms. Kress about

the goldenSeal - it's been overharvested and is definitely

endangered) will work the fastest.  the Echinacea stimulates the

WBC to eat the debris and the antibacterial slows the bacteria

down so the body can get rid of them.



Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: juniper

From: "Celia Joyce Smith" <celia_joyce.smith@virgin.net>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:18:52 -0000

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does anybody know how to process juniper berries to add to spirits to make

gin?









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Subject: Re: juniper

From: "Stephen W. Anderson" <swa@rockymountnc.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:33:54 -0500

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Celia Joyce Smith wrote in message

<78vpkd$ful$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net>...

>does anybody know how to process juniper berries to add to spirits to make

>gin?



I've read the traditional way was to spread them (dried, I would think, but

I doubt it matters) onto wire mesh racks through which the distillation

vapors were channeled. Gin today is flavored with an additive. The

berry-on-the-rack process is too expensive for modern consumers. You could

soak berries in a tea ball or a pouch of cheesecloth in vodka for a month or

so to flavor it, but you'd need some other things in there too to make it

taste much like gin.





Stephen W. Anderson

Rocky Mount, NC









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Subject: Re: Chronic Fatiuge Syndrome

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:02:19 -0500

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All of the herbal advice in this post is excellent! May I make another

suggestion if it applies. If anyone has symptoms of CFS and uses any

form of Aspartame/NutraSweet, eliminate it immediately from your diet!

Aspartame is now clinically linked with CFS and several other ailments

which have similar symptoms.

 

     Donald Levell





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Subject: Re: Chronic Fatiuge Syndrome

From: B & I Baerg <brirbrg@bc.sympatico.ca>

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:53:19 -0800

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I would be curious to know what the other ailments are that you

mentioned in your post and if the sweetener Equal is included in this.

Thanks...........







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Subject: Re: Chronic Fatiuge Syndrome

From: steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:46:00 GMT

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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:53:19 -0800, B & I Baerg

<brirbrg@bc.sympatico.ca> wrote:



>I would be curious to know what the other ailments are that you

>mentioned in your post and if the sweetener Equal is included in this.

>Thanks...........



Multiple sclerosis has been linked with Aspartame. Equal does contain

Aspartame. The subject has had a lot of discussion in

alt.support.mult-sclerosis recently. Nobody I know has ever suggested

that Astpartame causes MS but many people say that it makes the

symptoms worse. Others, like me, have MS but never have any Aspartame

- I don't like the taste.



Steve

--

Stephen Wolstenholme

Neural Network Shareware

http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk





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Subject: Pau D'Arco Question

From: "L. Peake" <lmpeake@att.net>

Date: 31 Jan 1999 03:26:42 GMT

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I read in a CFIDS post about saving use of PD'A for major infections.  I

take it daily, and give it daily to my daughter, as well.  If we don't take

it while we are well, we are assured of another bout with strep throat or

bronchitis/pneumonia, guaranteed.



Am I wrong to do this?  It is the only reliable help we have found, yet.

And after years of fighting, and now being able to live almost normally, I

do everything possible to keep the "nasties" away.



Sadly, we both have been diagnosed (titer positive) with Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, as well as my mother.  Mother was the first, in 1986.





--

L. Peake

Be aware.  Enjoy.  Find wisdom.  Give.  Never hurt.













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Subject: Kidneys/Liver...(breathing exercises)

From: "L. Peake" <lmpeake@att.net>

Date: 31 Jan 1999 04:50:01 GMT

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I was reading a magazine article that purported that one could raise one's

metabolism rate/raise energy and health levels by utilizing some seemingly

simple breathing exercises.



What are the breathing exercises that you speak of called/named?  I would

like to research this.





--

L. Peake

Be aware.  Enjoy.  Find wisdom.  Give.  Never hurt.













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Subject: NONI

From: sax50man@aol.com (Sax50man)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 05:22:01 GMT

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Has anyone used this herb call NONI?





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Subject: Re: hysterectomy, afterwards?

From: cawtega@aol.com (Cawtega)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 06:05:59 GMT

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Hi Janine,

I too was younger than most when i had my

hysterectomy & I had herd many horrer stories ! I took this as a totally

positive experience and it's been the best thing I've ever done! I don't take

thing except my vitamins & minerals and A combination of herbs that I buy at

the local health food store

they are by Country Life & they're called Maxines Menopause Formula.I swear by

them! For more info. E Mail me back.

                           cawtega!





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Subject: Re: hysterectomy, afterwards?

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:47:53 GMT

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>Ok..will be having a hysterectomy in a very short while.

>

>Since I haven't done this before, and am young enough to not have a

>lot of friends that have done this yet..<g> please, tell me what to

>expect, what herbs are advised to take..anything you can share with

>me.

>Thanks

>

>Janine



Take a look at Susun Weed's Menopausal Years before and/or after your

hysterectomy. Should help you deal with what you will be going thru.



Belinda







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Subject: Chitosan

From: ogtirof@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 06:33:55 GMT

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               Has anyone tried Chitosan for weight loss ?  If so in

what doseage?





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Subject: Re: Chitosan

From: cmorton@aol.com (C MORTON)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 07:47:50 GMT

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My husband did but it didn't help him lose weight, however, it did relieve his

knee pain he received from an accident several years before.





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Subject: Re: Chitosan

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:26:30 GMT

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ogtirof@yahoo.com wrote:

>               Has anyone tried Chitosan for weight loss ?  If so in

>what doseage?



  It does not work as promised.  It does cause "steatorrhea" -

intestinal disturbances with extremely foul-smelling flatulence

and very loose stools, because the bacteria in the colon digest

the fat the chitosan prevents you from absorbing. 



  To prevent this, they recommend a low-fat diet ... but then why

would you need the chitosan? 



Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Pau D'Arco Question/Correction

From: "L. Peake" <lmpeake@att.net>

Date: 31 Jan 1999 09:42:43 GMT

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Just to clarify, the titer is of the Epstein-Barr Virus.  I am positive for

EBV, and just have many of the symptoms classified under CFS.



--

L. Peake

Be aware.  Enjoy.  Find wisdom.  Give.  Never hurt.





L. Peake wrote in message <790ihi$hqp@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...

>I read in a CFIDS post about saving use of PD'A for major infections.  I

>take it daily, and give it daily to my daughter, as well.  If we don't take

>it while we are well, we are assured of another bout with strep throat or

>bronchitis/pneumonia, guaranteed.

>

>Am I wrong to do this?  It is the only reliable help we have found, yet.

>And after years of fighting, and now being able to live almost normally, I

>do everything possible to keep the "nasties" away.

>

>Sadly, we both have been diagnosed (titer positive) with Chronic Fatigue

>Syndrome, as well as my mother.  Mother was the first, in 1986.

>

>

>--

>L. Peake

>Be aware.  Enjoy.  Find wisdom.  Give.  Never hurt.

>

>

>

>









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Subject: Re: herbs for weight loss

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:01:00 GMT

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herblwondr@aol.com (Herblwondr) wrote:





>I lost a total of 65lbs over the last 9 moths.  Listen, Ive tried everything

>over the years and finally found the perfect remedy to my depression over being

>fat.  What would make more sense than a "FAT" BURNER" with "ALL NATURAL

>INGREDIENTS" that is "FDA APPROVED"? 

  Herbal Wonder  - 

Can you post the reference to this FDA APPROVAL that you are

touting?  And specify the ingredients in your wunder-drug?

Inquiring minds want to see if what you are selling has any

relationship to things we hgave actually heard of.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: herbs for weight loss

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:01:00 GMT

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"Sharon Unger" <sharonunger@email.msn.com> wrote:



>I need to know if there are herbs that will naturally help with weight loss,

>speeding up metabolism...  without the nasty side effects that are there

>when you use un-natural means of weight control, loss.



  The only natural means of speding up metabolism is exercise,

and it's FREE!!! 

  If you systematically look for ways to increase the distance

you travel on foot, you WILL begin to lose weight.  Park at the

FAR end of the parking lot instead of as close as possible, take

the stairs instead of escalators and elevators, and walk to

lunch-time restaurants is at all possible.

  Eat a bit less ... don't deprive yourself, just have one rich

dessert a week and fruit the rest of the time.  



  And don't trust anyone who is trying to sell you something.

they have the interests of their bank account ar heart, not your

well-being.

Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Need remedy to fade scars on skin

From: abacaxi@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh)

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:01:01 GMT

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Goddess of all things Cow & Chocolate <mskidney@my-dejanews.com>

wrote:



>I have some scars on my legs, a little brownish, resulting from scabs on

>my legs.  Is there anything I can use or apply to help fade them???

  Sunscreen ... they became hyperpigmented because you didn't

protect them when they were fresh.  If you use sunblock on them

now, and use it DAILY, they may fade.  It will take several

months for any effect at all to be seen.





Tsu Dho Nimh



It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.





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Subject: Re: Can one make a tincture from dried herbs?

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:45:03 GMT

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>Can one make a tincture from dried herbs?

>

>

>--

>L. Peake



Some, but most are best fresh.



Belinda





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Subject: Need quality herbalist school!

From: BradVersace@webtv.net

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:21:43 GMT

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Hello. I am well educated in natural medicine and I want to start a health

practice part time. I am looking for a herbalist school so I can get

certified as a herbalist and open a part time practice from my home in

Oregon.



Can anyone recommend any quality schools that offer herbalist certification

and also do you know of any decent schools that offer home study programs?



I am mostly familiar with west herbalism from my basic naturapthy training

but I am very interested in chinese herbs too.



Please personally email me. Thanks

'



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Subject: Re: Need quality herbalist school!

From: Don Levell <dalevell@sympatico.ca>

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:26:49 -0500

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Just above your location, in B.C. Canada is Dominion Herbal College, a

long-established, highly respected school offering a variety of courses.

I believe their website is "http://www.dominionherbal.com"

 

     Donald Levell, M.H.

     Email: dalevell@sympatico.ca





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Subject: Re: Need quality herbalist school!

From: bilherbs@aol.com (Bilherbs)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 18:26:43 GMT

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>Hello. I am well educated in natural medicine and I want to start a health

>practice part time. I am looking for a herbalist school so I can get

>certified as a herbalist and open a part time practice from my home in

>Oregon.

>

>Can anyone recommend any quality schools that offer herbalist certification

>and also do you know of any decent schools that offer home study programs?

>

>I am mostly familiar with west herbalism from my basic naturapthy training

>but I am very interested in chinese herbs too.

>

>Please personally email me. Thanks





There is certification for herbalists in the USA? Really?



Belinda









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Subject: Calea Zacatechichi

From: Joseph <jc5816@erols.com>

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:46:30 -0500

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Hi;



Could anyone here tell me what is the best way to make Calea

Zacatechichi? In a tea that is.

Also, has anyone had results using it for lucid and vivid dreams?





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Subject: Mugwort

From: Joseph <jc5816@erols.com>

Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:43:08 -0500

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Hi;



Does anyone know anything about Mugwort extracts? Do they help for

dreaming?





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Subject: Garlic Syrup

From: gizmo0166@aol.com (Gizmo0166)

Date: 31 Jan 1999 21:29:36 GMT

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I'm trying to make a garlic syrup. The recipe I'm using says to begin the

process, put the minced garlic in a far with equal parts water and apple

cider vinegar and let sit for 3 days unopened, shaking a couple times a

day.  Well, it's been 2 1/2 days and this stuff has turned a mint green 

color. Anyone know if this is normal?  I'm just a little hesitant about that

color.  It doesn't look like mold or anything.



Thanks!!

Denise



